#cpus-mobo-and-memory

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gleaming goblet
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I just assumed opposite slots would run dual channel

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2 and 4 for dual

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That, so far, has fixed it. CPU-Z is showing 1795.6MHz

burnt spear
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Huge

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That was almost certainly the issue

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I had the same issue with my 13600k and msi z690, would blue screen without even xmp enabled till I switched them

cerulean wadi
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Memory traces in mobo is part of it. Preferred slots for a reason -- indeed slot a1 and b1 would still be dual chanel

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gleaming goblet
gleaming goblet
chilly narwhal
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What type of motherboard do you recommend for an AMD Ryzen 7 7800X3D not very expensive around 300 dollars...............

cursive epoch
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you don't need all those expensive boards if you're just gaming

chilly narwhal
cursive epoch
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do you really need that many ports?

chilly narwhal
cursive epoch
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for amd am5 platform, the vrms on even this $129 board is able to handle up to 7950x3d just fine

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hm atx, alright

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either this

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they're all on amazon but i'd say they worth every bit picking up

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newegg has these for 189

chilly narwhal
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OK,and the memorie ram .

cursive epoch
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do you want rgb?

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this is with rgb

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no rgb

chilly narwhal
cursive epoch
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prices on ram change regularly so if you're about to buy the parts, ask again for reccs

vast meadow
cursive epoch
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cl doesn't even matter for ddr5

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boards will mess it up anyway tbh

chilly narwhal
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Because I'm order a 13700k processor and z790 rok strix I'm going to return to

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Choose for and 7 7800x3D

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and I am looking for a good ATX motherboard with no memory or lan compatibility problems god bios and performance

vast meadow
vast meadow
cursive epoch
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imo i'd rather pay less than getting slightly better ram that costs more

vast meadow
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It's only 10$, imo it's worth from cl38-32

chilly narwhal
dull flint
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Ugh more CL36

jade hawk
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is there any bottleneck with Ryzen 7600 and RTX 4080?

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playing in 2k

hard leaf
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None that you will notice

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Maybe the 1440p is the bottleneck there

cursive epoch
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conversation went to gpu channel btw

hard leaf
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❤

candid flax
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TIL that the rgb profile for the asrock x570 steel legend is saved onto a chip in the m.2 heatsink/cover

oak sand
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anyone know what IC this uses?

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oh dang woops

burnt spear
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6000c38, probably Samsung but I dont know more than that

oak sand
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figured

burnt spear
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There's a gauranteed hynix kit, 5600c46 for $72

oak sand
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you know how good you can make the timings?

burnt spear
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Not a clue, but its either gauranteed A die or M die

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Which is the best for tuning

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Felix or pato could tell you more about it

oak sand
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dang thats cool

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which one is it??

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might cop

burnt spear
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One sec let me see if I can find it

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In the amazon link it literally says hynix ic though lol

oak sand
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i already got my ram i just wanna OC it ngl

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imma wait and see if prices get better

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but dang $72 for 32 is wild

cerulean wadi
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% wise much cheaper than the $90+ of most 6000c30 or such kits.

neon sigil
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wtf damn

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even ddr5 is getting very cheap now

kindred ivy
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I am looking for recommendations for DDR4-3200 (PC 25600) that would be compatible for an ASUS G15CF-DSI560 desktop.

burnt spear
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32gb or 16

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And are you running it alone or with another kit of ram

kindred ivy
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32gig (2x16). The machine already has 16gig (2x8)

burnt spear
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You'd want to just run the 32gb kit

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Not add to the existing kit

kindred ivy
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Sorry, I want to add the 32kit to the 16 that is already there

burnt spear
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Yeah you wouldn't want to do that is what I'm saying

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Mixing ram kits unless you know the ram die is the same is not a good idea

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And are you just gaming?

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If so over 32gb is pointless

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If you're doing workstation tasks it might be worth trying to get the same die kit

kindred ivy
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It is going to be a gaming/workstation that is why looking for a bit more. How do you tell about ram die (pull a stick in the machine and play match the numbers?)

burnt spear
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There's a program to check, but its not 100% accurate

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Typhoon burner I think it is

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What are you looking to spend on ram?

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Also last question, what cpu do you have

kindred ivy
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was trying to keep it to about 100 - 160$

burnt spear
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Oh you can just flat out buy a 64gb kit for that

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$100

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One sec

kindred ivy
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intel Core i1 12th gen 12400F

burnt spear
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I'd just get that and sell the 16gb sticks you have

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Though depending on what workstation tasks you do 64gb is probably still overkill if a 12400f is enough for what you do

kindred ivy
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nice, many thanks.

misty obsidian
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What is a recommendable setup right now to run super-high clocked RAM without getting one of the high-end motherboards ?

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asus maximus hero boards are crazy in canada

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On gskill's website only Z790APEX are listed as compatible with their 7800-8000-8200 memory

vast meadow
dull flint
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maybe a used z690 unify x? I've not tried with that mobo in ages so no guarantee even if they're saying it can do 8000 now

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short answer is no, you won't get high frequency like that without some amazing board/in some cases amazing cpu as well

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AM5 can do 8000+ too but it's barely any faster than what was 6000-6400 due to desync

misty obsidian
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Thanks guys, appreciated.

limber dragon
amber canopy
vast meadow
zealous pond
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Suppose if I want to upgrade from an i5 9600k what's a good upgrade from it?

burnt spear
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Since you're pairing it with a 6700xt, the 9600k is fine for gaming

zealous pond
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In that case I'll stick with it

burnt spear
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But if you still want to id say 7600 or 7800x3d

zealous pond
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7800x3d?

burnt spear
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Am5 cpu, best cpu for gaming atm

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$384-$450 depending on sales unless you have a microcenter, mobo around $125-$160 and ram around $75-90

zealous pond
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I do not have a MC near me

cerulean wadi
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As another option, even a 12600K would be a moderate upgrade (especially 1% lows), & is often under $200ish, or extra 2 (p)cores is the 12700K sometimes under $250.

burnt spear
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12600k $178 rn

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imo not worthwhile upgrade from 9600k, I think only worth going much better cpu for future gpu upgrade

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not with a 6700xt

cerulean wadi
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True. I sort of tack onto your 1st reply & say stick w/ current setup unless a 9700 nonK can be found cheap enough. The extra threads help quite a bit most of the time.

frank mulch
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Hey all! New to the chat here. I need some help troubleshooting with a new PC build. I got a Z790 AORUS ELITE AX (1.x) last week that wouldn't start. It had all the error lights going off. After following the steps Gigabyte support gave me, they suggested returning. So I did. Today, about an hour and a half ago I got my replacement and I'm running into the same errors. The odds of having boot issues from a brand new motherboard is low, but never 0. But getting two leads me to think I'm doing something wrong. I'm trying to use a Intel Core i7-12700KF with it and I've flashed the BIOS to the latest version, but I'm still getting CPU and DRAM error lights.

burnt spear
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make sure the ram is fully slotted into the mobo

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and can you link what ram you got?

frank mulch
cerulean wadi
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Try each stick individually. 1 faulty isn't rare. Here's a pic of an example when ram isn't clipped in btw.

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burnt spear
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then tbh sounds like cpu is faulty

frank mulch
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Gigabyte support had me try one stick at a time and to try each slot.

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Sounds good, I'll return the CPU

cerulean wadi
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Reseated cpu already? -edit: my bad. Probable cpu issue.

frank mulch
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Yes, reseated. I've tried all combinations

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First build in like 7 years and it's been frustrating. haha

burnt spear
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understandably that sounds obnoxious

floral glade
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ok so i want to upgrade my rig to 64gb ram, i have 2 16g sticks of ddr 3200mhz, is another 2 sticks of 3200 better than 2 of 4000?

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also what is a good brand for a good price

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i have a 32 thread cpu and dual channel motherboard

burnt spear
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or workstation tasks

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also what cpu

floral glade
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i run a split pc and do cad and gaming

burnt spear
floral glade
burnt spear
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yes

floral glade
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ok

burnt spear
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there's not really a point for it anyways, you likely won't use over 64gb for cad

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you'd have to be doing some insane stuff for that to happen

floral glade
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what if i have 4 modded mincraft sesions running at once....

burnt spear
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you're good

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each would use at most 12gb

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even that's pushing it

floral glade
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what if they didnt...

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and instead one allone was drawing 16

burnt spear
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wtf kinda mods are you running my guy jesus

floral glade
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soooo self hosting plus bmp2 plus shaders plus alot

floral glade
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only one was running shaders

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and i want to run 4

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all at once with mid settings on 3 and max on one

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or thats the dream

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its using 87% of 32 with one game paused

long geyser
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Firstly are you sure you need that much RAM allocated to the clients? Secondly are you hosting a server through a client rather then a dedicated server?

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6GB - 8GB hasnt caused me any issues for any large modpacks, I doubt you need anywhere near 12GB - 16GB.

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Also if you're trying to run this kind of setup you really need to cut down on all bloat. No Discord, browsers, bad launchers (overwolf), prolly debloated Windows or Linux, anything else that isnt nessesacry to run the game.

floral glade
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all users are on the same computer as me

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it works, but lag is noticable when i run maxed shadders and have others on aswell

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its only the ram thats geting taxed tho

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its fine when we are in same chunks

long geyser
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MC rarely appears to be single threaded CPU bound/GPU bound by standard utilities. Indicating it's more then likely capped by some internal bottleneck that cant be seen easily. You're prolly capped elsewhere that you dont really notice. Also worth noting same chunk "stress" tests dont indicate how well it works due to how mob cap works (mobs are almost always the perf killer for any standard server).

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Regardless, try lower RAM allocation. It's unlikely you need it.

floral glade
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it can manage 2 with one usinf shaders and be enjoyable but add just 1 more and it isnt

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ik mc has its own caps but the ram part is definetly due to the fact im running it multiple times so me and 2 or 3 others can all play at once

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its a split pc settup so multiple users all using the same pc at the same time

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and 32 gigs isnt cutting it

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for mc with shadders anyway

lyric turret
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Is the WD-Black SSD the 2TB better than my p41 plus?

cerulean wadi
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If sn850x rather than sn770, yes. P44 Pro is what fights the 850x.

vast meadow
long geyser
# floral glade well it would be running 4 sesions silmutaniosly, ive tried lower ram but the lo...

Load times dont indicate it needs more RAM during a playthrough. You could also do mod pruning as it sounds like you have either 1000+ mods or 20+ extremely unoptimized mods. As well as installing perf mods such as FerriteCore and all of the Forge ports of the Fabric perf mods (Enhanced Block Entities Reforged, Entity Culling, ImmediatelyFast Reforged, Radium Reforged, Rubidium, etc). List of good perf mods here: https://github.com/TheUsefulLists/UsefulMods/blob/main/Performance/Performance118.md#forge-118x.

floral glade
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Yah with 4 people it's at 1200 mods roughly

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300 per user

sudden creek
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Granted the opportunity Modded Servers love to use ram. My heaviest server in the past used around 20GB.

sudden creek
sudden creek
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How do I fix USB dropout on AM4?

cursive epoch
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you can't fix it when you get it sadly

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it's a problem that's always plagued am4

split copper
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Honestly I feel like it's just a problem that's always plagued computers in general

cursive epoch
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am4 is just more prone to it for some reason

hollow thorn
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Only thing you can do is get most recent bios

runic veldt
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What are some good 32gb ddr5 ram (4 sticks)

vast meadow
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8gb sticks basically loose the benefit of dual rank, which is a noticeable performance drop, and trying to get 4 sticks stable on jedec on ddr5 is a challenge let alone running them at a high speed

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get a 2x16gb kit instead

cursive epoch
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i gave em a recommendation over in general chat

split copper
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If using 4 sticks is such a challenging prospect at this point, why do they put four slots on a board?

burnt spear
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For people who need a lot of ram

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Or just because

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And on ddr4 it was much less of an issue

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With a z790 it isn't as hard to run 4 sticks as it was before, you could likely get 4 sticks 5200mhz-5600mhz with enough effort

sudden creek
tender sleet
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7950X or 13900K for content creation (video editing and so on)?

tender sleet
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@cursive epoch

cursive epoch
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well

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you're on am5

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so the ryzen 9 is obvious

tender sleet
tender sleet
cursive epoch
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then the 13900k it is

tender sleet
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aight

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I'll still have the 7800X3D in my back pocket of course

vast meadow
tender sleet
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I don't know who said it to me but it fits so well

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TBF I can order matching sticks and move to 32

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But like

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There's snowball's chance in hell it'd actually be stable at 6000 MHz that way

tender sleet
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But yes
I can upgrade to 32gb if I absolutely need to right?

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Like yes it's gonna be sucky in terms of frequency and timings
But it should work for the most part

vast meadow
tender sleet
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Yeah that's probably fair enough

sudden creek
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Are there any DDR5 kits that are guaranteed Hynix M or A die?

upper aspen
vast meadow
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Also they're crap sticks

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Some of their kits that are already guaranteed hynix are

vast meadow
# sudden creek Are there any DDR5 kits that are guaranteed Hynix M or A die?

There's plenty that are, basically nothing under 7000mhz is guaranteed to be either(that i know of) but there's plenty good kit's that are guaranteed hynix
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/qjbZRK
These kits are hynix but require overclocking basically
Everything 6400mhz or over is guaranteed hynix of some sort, there's some kits that are 6000 that are but I can't remember which are samsung and hynix, i believe 6000 c30-32 are hynix but I'd double check with felix

Part List - PCPartPicker

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upper aspen
vast meadow
dull flint
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decent?

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I would say no complaints but I used a 5900X

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very broad question you'd want to be more specific

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versus a 5800X it should be about the same or slightly worse

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for games

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multicore, double it.

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you did say gaming tho

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how else am I supposed to interpret this kekw

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well if you want multicore, 5950x is just two 5800x's slapped together

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but that's all you'll get

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dual 8 ccd versus 1 8 ccd

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if you ask me tho I wouldn't consider any AM4 stuff anymore given what you can afford new these days

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well you certainly don't want to buy a new 5950x either

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you can get better performance out of a 13600k

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for compiling specifically? maybe not, but there's also 7900

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or 7950x

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lets look rq what a 5950x used costs

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12900kf is cheaper

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7700x is almost the same performance in compiling

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then you have AM5 and you can stick to upgrading on the same platform again

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I'd personally do this over buying 64gb ddr4 (really shouldn't) and a 5950x

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AM4 is legacy, there's very little reason to justify it anymore

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you might hate the jump now, but then later you can stick it out on AM5 all the same

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7700 doesn't even need a cooler, you can use the stock one

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you could do this then get the 64gb ddr5

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which will only be a little more than a 64gb ddr4 kit

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so you'd pay what, maybe near $100 more now? but later you'd be far better off as you've now got yourself settled in with ddr5 and an ongoing platform instead of a dead one

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12900K, 13600K, 12600K all the same, they all would be equal to or better than the 5950x

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I mean if you're that compelled then I'm in no position to stop it, but just be wary you'll be locking yourself in pretty solidly to old gen tech by doing it is all

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you also will likely need a new cooler for the 5950x

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5950x

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didn't say AM5 there

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lol

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lol

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I'm not talking about AM5 rn

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what cooler do you have?

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fair enough, that would indeed handle anything

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you can adjust the pump I'm sure if it's 3 pin

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change to DC input in bios you should have a range on the b550f down to 40%

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well LS720 actually runs best between 75% and 80%

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from reviews

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most AIO's are designed with the intent of 100% for daily operation but the LS720's pump causes cavitation at full rpm

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so you get turbulence and worse waterflow

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you also get a noisier pump

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you can buy turning the rpm down

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lol

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and better temps

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this was a long time ago, when I spoke with the cultistnetwork authors of their review of it

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specifically they told me 75-80%

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after testing

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this would've been when it first came out, back in what, august last year?

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I would say it should be close to ideal

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but I mean if it's worse, then just put it back

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nothing's concrete and I don't hold all the cards I'm preaching

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that...

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doesn't quite sound right but ok

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I'm guessing not any synthetic loads

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then not really pushed hard at all lol

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5800x has a reputation of being a volcano

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wait then why don't you invest in avx-512?

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11th gen makes a lot more sense than AM4 if you're big on those games

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Ryzen 7K has AVX-512 but it's fake 512

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512 would be a huge fps boost is all

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especially for RPCS3

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?

spark loom
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is the AMD Ryzen 7 7800X3D on a MSI MAG B650 TOMAHAWK with a 7900 xtx overkill or nah. Someone is telling me I should go with the new gen X3D cpu in order to future proof my comp and just make it more of a beast. What are your guys opinion on this?

dull flint
spark loom
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which I am

dull flint
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tomahawk is overkill for AM5

spark loom
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neat. I'm upgrading to 4K so

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idk its what the people here recommended

dull flint
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yep

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bumpy I've made you a list right

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I swear I did

spark loom
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yeppers

dull flint
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good

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so you know what mobo I'd recommend

spark loom
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mmhmm

dull flint
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alr

spark loom
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I run mc fine on my GTX 960 lol yet it wont run RDR2

dull flint
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rdr2 is hilariously difficult to run given the age of it

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yet gta5 runs on a toaster

cursive epoch
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oops

burnt spear
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Tf?

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You've got an interesting idea of obsolete

tawny frigate
vast meadow
tawny frigate
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I don’t know if I do

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Probably not. I do want max gaming fps tho

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I for sure want the ram and starfield though and will buy those regardless

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Sounds like a lower tier processor but with the x3d suffix would be better suited to my needs. Now if I can find a bundle I like that would be ideal

vast meadow
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i mean what the ram is worth 75-80$ (ik newegg says 93 but you can get basically identical for less) starfield is like 70$?

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that still brings the 7900x down to 285$ if you plan on buying starfield id say its a good deal

tawny frigate
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Will the 7800x3d actually out perform the 7900x for games

vast meadow
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unless youre getting a 4090, you probably will hardly see a difference between 7900x and 7800x3d unless you only play esports

vast meadow
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most people will be gpu limited tho

tawny frigate
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I’ve got a 2070 rn

vast meadow
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you definetly wont notice a difference until you upgrade your gpu unless you play low settings esports

tawny frigate
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Hm

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I broke the glass panel so was going to get a new case. And maybe maybe upgrade at that same time

vast meadow
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probably want a new power supply, cooler and would need a new ram kit too

tawny frigate
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New psu too?

vast meadow
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prebuilt psus usually suck

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what psu do you have?

tawny frigate
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My current rig seems well balanced?

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Not sure let me look

vast meadow
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yeah its decently balanced

burnt spear
tawny frigate
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Hmm I can’t even see it

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I know It’s prob the bare min for my components tho

burnt spear
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It's 600w, model might vary

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But it's for certain 600w

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The best quality 600w units are B tier, I dont think there's any 600/700/800w A tier psus

tawny frigate
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Bestbuy Q&A is saying 650 gold

burnt spear
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That's what I'm looking at

vast meadow
tawny frigate
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I think I need to take it apart to see

burnt spear
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If it has a psu shroud, take off the back panel

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Well, side panel but not the side with the gpu and cpu and all that on it

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If it doesn't have a psu shroud, the one with the gpu and all that on it

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It does have a psu shroud

vast meadow
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should just need to take off the back panel to see

burnt spear
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So looking at the pc from the front, take off the right side panel

vast meadow
tawny frigate
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The other side has no panel lol

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I wanna turn it into a non pre built eventually

vast meadow
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yeah its C tier, id get a new psu assuming youre gonna upgrade your gpu in the future

tawny frigate
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What do you think about getting new case, new mobo, new ram, new cpu, new psu and waiting on gpu?

vast meadow
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thats what id do in your situation ye

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gpu is an easy drop in upgrade later on

tawny frigate
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Does mobo really matter

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Maybe the b650e?

vast meadow
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Honestly since you want the game anyway unless you plan on getting a 4080/4090 or only play esports basically I'd get that 7900x

vast meadow
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@tawny frigate do you need wifi/Bluetooth or will you be using ethernet only?

sudden creek
vast meadow
sudden creek
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gotcha.

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I noticed the T-Create elite sticks didn't have a heat spreader.

vast meadow
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Correct

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Bare sticks are actually pretty effective tho

sudden creek
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Would it be worth buying my own heat spreaders?

vast meadow
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I mean you can, if you're really pushing the frequency it might be

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But yeah I'd only get those kits if you're okay with ocing them yourself, I'm sure felix could give you a list of timings that would basically guaranteed be stable

sudden creek
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Yeah I plan to OC>

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I really like the fun of it.

vast meadow
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Ram oc is all fun and games til it deletes your windows bootloader

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So uh have a secondary drive with your ram oc testing windows install

sudden creek
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?

vast meadow
sudden creek
vast meadow
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Ram erroring can delete your windows bootloader

vast meadow
sudden creek
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All my drives are full of valuable info.

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Either way I need a new drive for space soon so when I do the oc I will use that drive to test before putting information on it.

vast meadow
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Although you need to make sure when you install windows, you do it on your main one only in the pc, take all but your ram oc ssd out, then install windows again, otherwise windows bootloader will go on a random drive, meaning if they see another windows drive it'll probably just use that bootloader it's a real pain in the ass

sudden creek
vast meadow
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Yeah windows dum

sudden creek
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Didn't know of it and was driving me nuts till I had it fixed.

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Kept switching between win10 and win11.

vast meadow
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Lol classic Microsoft

sudden creek
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I am tempted to buy the T-Create Elite sticks and put my own heatsink on it for some reason.

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ruby basin
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For some reason overwatch (bad game) takes 5gigs of my memory, sometimes it goes up for ~5.7 gb while playing on 2k, it doesnt go down at all even if i change all setting to low

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3070ti, 16gb ddr5

vast meadow
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That's about right for a game yeah, kinda on the lower side tbh

burnt spear
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^^

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Also 16gb ddr5 is cursed, because it's either 8gb sticks or single channel

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So there's your first issue

tawny frigate
burnt spear
tawny frigate
burnt spear
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Because the gpu would be the limiting factor with any other gpus

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Not the cpu

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Aside from very cpu focused games like valorant, but my 13600k and 3060 ti can do 250+ fps anyways, when you get to that tier of pcs it doesn't matter for the majority of games that are cpu focused

tawny frigate
#

So, even though I would primarily be gaming, worth considering that 7900x bundle over the 7800x3d because of value of ram and game? I have 16gb ram rn, and it’s a lower clock speed.

burnt spear
#

Si

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Well, idk what your gpu is

tawny frigate
#

Rtx 2070 non s

burnt spear
#

Yeah you wouldn't notice any difference at all

#

So I agree with pato

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7900x for value and you can upgrade gpu later, as you still have plenty of cpu headroom

#

7900x+4080/xtx/4090 is still more than a fine pairing

tawny frigate
#

🤔

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If the 7800x3d is just better

burnt spear
#

In cpu performance, the difference is around 15% in gaming I believe?

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However with a 2070, that difference would likely be under 1%

tawny frigate
#

I mean it probably won’t be long before I cave and get a gpu 😅 lol

burnt spear
#

What would you be going for though?

vast meadow
#

And what bacca said

magic oxide
vast meadow
#

I'd also change the psu, depending on the use of the pc, the cpu too

magic oxide
vast meadow
#

Okay

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Lemme reconfig the list a bit

magic oxide
#

Id also prefer to run on intel even if ryzen is currently faster

magic oxide
vast meadow
#

For rendering etc 13900k is generally the best anyway so

magic oxide
vast meadow
#

How tied are you to the aesthetics? The case etc?

magic oxide
#

Aesthetics are definitley a big part. I'm dead set on the case. Im also going to be watercooling the system (gpu and cpu). Mobo aesthetics dont really matter as im going to be making a custom shroud for it.

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Like I hate how the big diffused light looks on the vengeance and gskill ram so I picked the dominator for the pixel type lights

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Oh yeah the way the storage is split up is intentional and the hdd is meant as a backup for the ssd's

vast meadow
dull flint
#

Oloy has like the best ram rgb on the planet

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Maybe I'm biased

vast meadow
#

I agree personally

magic oxide
vast meadow
dull flint
#

Wot

#

Wait

magic oxide
#

gen 5 ssds haven't matured enough yet
I see

dull flint
#

I have a lot of questions

vast meadow
dull flint
ruby basin
dull flint
#

They're literally melting under their own power

vast meadow
magic oxide
dull flint
#

You can find out quite easily with google

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They need proper cooling measures

magic oxide
#

whe m.2 waterblocks make sense now

vast meadow
vast meadow
dull flint
vast meadow
#

Just use the regular passive blocks that come with the board

dull flint
#

You could do like, dual loop with ram and ssd separate?
But at that point you'd be seriously needing to wonder how worth it it is

#

Let alone that 99.9% of people can't leverage gen 5 in any capacity anyway

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Need to be someone editing like, 16K video at work daily

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And that's really about it

#

Gen 4 hits the majority for already significantly fast

vast meadow
#

Even then I'd still take an sn850x/xs70 for the better all around perf

dull flint
#

I want that oloy kit

#

64gb hynix go brr

vast meadow
#

Usually the randoms suck on gen 5 drives

vast meadow
dull flint
#

Too bad I don't need em

magic oxide
dull flint
#

*laughs in dumb trident z5 *

vast meadow
dull flint
#

2x32 runs wayyy more stable and wayyy easier

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It's not like ddr4 where you can just plug them in and go

magic oxide
#

oh damn gotcha, well any dom sticks for 2x32?

dull flint
#

I mean

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Doms are good, but are doms worth the price they charge? Not really

magic oxide
#

I just despise the long diffused light so much

vast meadow
#

Not unless you want a bit slower

magic oxide
dull flint
#

If I won the lottery I'd take the best doms, but I'd otherwise just stick to the cheaper stuff. Same result

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Also icue is flakey

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Very flakey with ram

magic oxide
vast meadow
dull flint
#

And especially lately

vast meadow
dull flint
#

I've seen for a very very long time, issues with corsair ram rgb

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People regularly coming in, sometimes on a daily basis complaining about either their corsair lcd aio or vengeance ram not working with icue

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And speaking from personal experience with them

#

Sometimes it can be as regular as every second boot that it won't work

#

Despite all that? I think doms are, functionally good, but not worth a premium of more than like, $10 over the competition

vast meadow
#

Corsair ram sticks and heatspreader quality is generally bargin bin stuff at higher speeds for a markup

dull flint
#

Nah I would argue the heatspreaders on doms are quite good

#

They pad them properly

#

Removeable with screws

vast meadow
#

Oh ik but I'm just saying in general

dull flint
#

Fair

#

But in this case it wouldn't really be, just gross for the price

#

You'd get the same results out of say, kingston fury's

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Or ripjaws s5's

vast meadow
#

Or oloy 🫶

dull flint
#

The oloys as well but those were vetoed

vast meadow
#

But yeah everything else as long as you like the looks of it is better/same and or cheaper

dull flint
#

Ok Pat now I got questions

#

Why all the storage

#

And why that mobo and case lol

magic oxide
#

Holy m.2 slots. that mobo got alot

magic oxide
dull flint
#

Oh if you want the case that's fine

#

Just curious

#

A particular case aesthetic is something I think is great just as long as it's not something excessively overpaid for

#

You could probably do 2x4tb xs70's there

#

Instead of 4tb xs70+2x2tb sn850x

#

Saves a few dollars for mostly the same result

#

One sec I might have a look at this

magic oxide
#

1TB C Drive NVME for Core Programs and OS
2TB D Drive NVME for programs I need faster speeds on
4TB 2.5"SSD for other files and less fast programs
14TB 3.5" HDD for in computer backups of other drives

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Here was my initial reasoning behind my original storage setup

dull flint
#

Do you need the igpu for anything?

magic oxide
dull flint
#

Still same

magic oxide
#

oops

#

there

dull flint
#

Yeah you may as well have 2 4tb xs70's

#

It's $10 more for 1tb more

magic oxide
#

id rather keep my os seperate from other things rather than get 1 more tb I most likely wont use tbh but thanks

dull flint
#

Here's what I'd do

#

Then go for an all white build with the custom loop if that's what you want to do

#

Or go thermalright frozen notte

dull flint
#

Split the 4tb into 2 2tb partitions using windows

magic oxide
#

oh yeah I could

dull flint
#

I'd say do that with an 8tb nvme but those are expensive for the sake of being expensive

magic oxide
#

haha

dull flint
#

So yeah, this would be the best in slot option lol

#

If you have no need for the igpu in the cpu as well for like, quicksync? Then 13900kf will be just as functional too btw

#

The KF's tend to run better as well as the good K's go to the KS line, but the KF's all stay together

#

So if you're into any overclocking or "golden samples" the KF's have better odds of better quality silicon

magic oxide
#

oh yeah I didn't think of that. Ill prob do that thanks

dull flint
#

Have you done any loop planning?

#

Know what you need yet?

magic oxide
#

Not yet, was going to do it after I figured out the parts list

dull flint
#

Alr

#

If you need to open the system up a lot, strongly suggest soft tube

#

It makes sifting through parts to get something 1000x easier

#

And soft tube loops can look very good

#

If you really want hard tube tho make sure you've got a lot of practice in bends, otherwise use 90° fittings instead, looks clean still but just costs a little more for being mistake free

#

We also have some watercooling gurus in here. I have a fair share of it but I don't actually look into the stuff

#

@limpid warren @long geyser are two that immediately come to mind if you want some help with recommendations

#

I would strongly suggest being quadruple sure of your list to avoid super expensive shipping from these watercooling places lol

magic oxide
#

thanks for all the advice, yeah ill probably be going with hardline tubing and dont think ill be opening it up often.

#

I did look into bending tube a bit and will probably get a 90° and 45° guides and make a jig

dull flint
#

Good luck my guy, it takes a looootttt of practice to get perfect bends

#

Be prepared to budget a lot of extra tubing for mistakes

magic oxide
#

yeah ill prob get some cheap tubing to practice on a lil

#

then get the one I want + extra for when I mess up when I do the real stuff

dull flint
#

Ye that works too

magic oxide
#

Oh yeah @vast meadow is there a specific for not picking MSI Gaming Pro for the one you picked

Same for the different power supplies original and yours, or was this one just price?

#

Just wondering

vast meadow
#

So you save like 100$ on that

ruby basin
#

btw the game uses 5gigs while only being on the menu. with almost the lowest settings, what the hell

#

its so frustrating cuz I literally cant even switch to discord while playing without annoying lag and freeze

vast meadow
#

🤷‍♂️

leaden gale
#

where is help channe;?

burnt spear
vast meadow
#

basically all them are youll usuallly get the best response in the appropriate channel tho

limpid warren
magic oxide
vast meadow
#

No probs

potent dew
#

Any recommendations for B650 boards?

#

My B450 board is just crapping itself every time I reboot at this point

#

It sits on the boot menu for a good 5 minutes with the VGA error light on at first, then the boot error light on before finally booting

#

And one of my drives isn't showing up correctly

limber dragon
#

are you planning on a new cpu and ram with that?

merry prawn
#

I’ve got a new build and I need to flash the bios, the bios renamer named the file to TGX570P, but the manual says to name to TGX570PW

#

Does it matter?

potent dew
#

Don't really see a reason to buy a replacement motherboard just to be done with it in a few years or earlier

limber dragon
#

a b550 is like $100

potent dew
#

I was kind of planning on upgrading within the next year anyway

potent dew
limber dragon
#

most b650 are overbuilt, so pretty much find one that fits your needs for usb, nvmes, wifi etc

potent dew
#

One of the reviews on the Aorus Elite AX says something about coil whine?

#

Also apparently picky with RAM

#

Looks like the RAM I was planning on getting has been used with it successfully, though

#

What's with higher latency on DDR5?

cerulean wadi
#

compared to what? Realize plenty of ddr5 has almost the same overall latency as many ddr4 kits had, but now there's a bonus of around 2x the bandwidth which helps a bit anyways.

potent dew
#

A lot of the kits I've found were 16ns. Maybe I'm just remembering wrong, but I seem to remember most of the DDR4 kits were 10.

#

I see that the timings are different, but I don't remember what each one really means

#

Would the first one be faster?

sudden creek
cerulean wadi
#

ddr5 is overall somewhat new and isn't anywhere near it's peak of advancement. Wheen clock is 200x CL, that's basically 10ns --- higher mhz is mainly more bandwidth regardless of timings, and is what helps ddr5 timings overall not be as big a deal as previous gen(s). If you wan't to somewhat dodge messing w/ timing and want decent XMP rating, here's an example of what we can get. https://pcpartpicker.com/product/H9CZxr/teamgroup-t-create-expert-32-gb-2-x-16-gb-ddr5-6000-cl30-memory-ctced532g6000hc30dc01

TEAMGROUP T-Create Expert 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR5-6000 CL30 Memory (...

TEAMGROUP T-Create Expert 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR5-6000 CL30 Memory (CTCED532G6000HC30DC01)

fresh cargo
#

Would any of you purchase a motherboard overseas without warranty? Example, my country doesn't have asrock products, but Newegg ships to my country

cursive epoch
#

Personally no

#

But newegg does have something like 7 day policy

fresh cargo
#

So I'm just wondering will it be worth it

#

If it manages to post, I'll most likely be safe for a while yea?

cursive epoch
#

yeah

fresh cargo
#

That helps haha thanks man

#

I'd hope the same for GPU as well I guess

vast meadow
# potent dew Any recommendations for B650 boards?

In the US if you need wifi, a620m pro rs wifi is usually 125, if no wifi needed b650 hdv should be 125, recently i saw the pro rs wifi oos so you can get hdv and m.2 ax200 card for like 20$ or basically the cheapest WiFi board that has a heatsink think msi is the cheapest atm for what I'd get at 160ish

potent dew
#

I was thinking more ATX

vast meadow
potent dew
#

My case is pretty big and even an ATX board looks a little odd in it

#

I will also definitely find a use for more SATA and M.2 slots eventually

vast meadow
burnt spear
#

Can always just get a USB hub for like $10-15

vast meadow
#

indeed

magic oxide
#

A friend of mine keeps telling me to reconsider my mobo but I trust you lot more tbh. He sent me This. Should I still just go with the AROSUS Elite?

burnt spear
#

Theyre all overpriced

#

Are you overclocking your cpu?

#

If not there's absolutely no point to getting a z790

magic oxide
#

Yeah I will be

burnt spear
#

What cpu?

magic oxide
#

Intel Core i9-13900K

burnt spear
magic oxide
#

those dont work for one reason or another

burnt spear
#

The msi z690 a pro works, it just needs a bios update and it has a bios flash button

magic oxide
burnt spear
#

What are you using the pc for?

magic oxide
#

I won't have ethernet installed for a while

Heavy rendering, running server, 3d modeling, editing, work, data processing and gaming ofc. Everything

burnt spear
#

Ah ok. The wifi 6 vs 6e likely won't make any bit of a difference though

#

Especially considering you're going to get ethernet

magic oxide
#

like in 8 months upsidedown_cry

burnt spear
#

It's better

#

$60 on an nvme is silly still but w/e

#

I'd also get a second xs70 2tb over the sn850x 2tb

#

$33 diff for a negligible difference

#

Oh that's a 4tb xs70

vast meadow
magic oxide
vast meadow
#

Yeah it can be with super budget boards

#

But anything over 200 is generally practically the same

cyan raft
vast meadow
#

The tomahawk is basically a zx90 a pro with a nicer heatsink and maybe a tad more io

#

But I'd get the gigabyte board i sent you a few days ago for like 200ish

magic oxide
#

yeah I have that in the list

burnt spear
#

The tomahawk isn't exactly junk, but definitely overpriced

long geyser
#

I love how it hasn't changed at all since it got popular during b450 era.

burnt spear
#

B450 tomahawk has been the only tomahawk worth buying except for sales and or used

long geyser
#

B450 tomahawk was overrated by far. Couple of other options that were better featureset wise, which was more important then trying to run an OCed 3950x on the cheapest board possible.

burnt spear
#

Fair, but its been the best value out of any tomahawks

long geyser
#

Ah that's what you mean. Yeah prolly. Haven't really cared to look at other tom prices.

burnt spear
#

It's kinda funny

#

B660 tomahawk was as expensive as z690 a pro

hollow thorn
#

I mean iirc x570 tomahawk was at a nice price

#

The 200$ board with 300$ board features

vocal mantle
#

I wanna ask: Would i get better performance on Blender Fluid simulation if i go to the Latest Gen Intel CPU with DDR5?

burnt spear
#

blender is gpu focused afaik

grizzled bloom
grizzled bloom
vocal mantle
#

Yeah, it is CPU load.

burnt spear
#

ah ok

vocal mantle
burnt spear
#

what is your budget for the upgrade and current cpu/ram?

vocal mantle
grizzled bloom
#

In general yes, the newer processors and memory perform better

burnt spear
#

^

grizzled bloom
#

It wouldn't be worth upgrading if you had, say, 12th Gen Intel already

burnt spear
#

7900x3d/7950x3d might be what you want though depending on what games you do, your gpu, and some other stuff

vocal mantle
#

and DDR4

burnt spear
#

Then you'd see a very big increase

vocal mantle
#

i already have a GPU that can go on for quite a while still.

burnt spear
#

Yeah, but parts will be very differently priced by then

#

So I would not make a decision on anything till then

vocal mantle
vocal mantle
grizzled bloom
vocal mantle
burnt spear
#

14700k might have similar multi core perf to the 13900k though, since I believe they'll be the same core count

grizzled bloom
#

Maybe bacca meant 14700k since they're adding 4 e cores to that

burnt spear
#

Yes I did, ty fal lol

#

You right, thought 13900k had 20

vocal mantle
cerulean wadi
#

Or 10850k. Gulag for you. It's better than 11th gen.

#

So where's the 10core 11th gen. Oh right, there isn't.

vocal mantle
#

Okay, what did you expect?

#

Honestly, that's a oven

#

It's a really hot chip, I was even thinking to upgrade the Pic to a 13th Generation i9

#

*PC

#

The cpu was used because the PC was planned at last quarter 2020 approximately.

#

Well, I can't really oc that within safe temperatures because the cooler can't keep up.

#

I saw that it can go beyond 300W

#

That's almost the max. my GPU can draw

grizzled bloom
#

13900k gets close to 400W at stock settings on an all core blender load

#

I had my Ryzen 2700 reporting over 700W once

vocal mantle
#

If I do that, the cpu will blow up

#

With my cooler I use rn

grizzled bloom
#

Hang on I'll find the hwbot sub

burnt spear
#

Atp that's not even ln2 that's ln3

vocal mantle
#

That CPU cooler was Meant:

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burnt spear
#

I would not reuse that for 13900k

vocal mantle
#

Yes. 🙂

grizzled bloom
#

794W lol

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burnt spear
#

Notte 360 would good, could go for a better aio though

vocal mantle
grizzled bloom
#

Honestly I think the sensor was broken but it's still a funny ss to pull out

vocal mantle
#

Yeah

#

Well, I pulled out the keyboard for my Phone.

cerulean wadi
#

You were acting like it actually hit 800w. Bugman😭

vocal mantle
#

Hold on, let me Update my Nickname...

#

Ok, that is done now

#

And now improved.

#

Yes, I own a PC that has a Intel Pentium G3220.

#

For casually running a Minecraft Server on it for like a couple players (up to 5 I guess...)

#

There is a song greatscottlab just loves, it is called "1KHz SINE WAVE"

#

I think it might just Be able to Keep up if it Boils the Liquid and the pump get's the Cooled side...

#

the latent energy of Vapourisation ig...

#

Well, the Pentium CPU can actually Overwhelm the cooler that is mounted on it.

vast meadow
tender sleet
#

B650E Steel Legend WiFi for 118k HUF
or
X670E Steel Legend for 138k HUF

The X670E doesn't have WiFi in the name but does have an identical WiFi 6E built in

The advantage for the X670E is having a 2.5Gb AND a 1Gb LAN, as well as more Sata 6 and an additional M.2 Gen4 ×4 slot

#

oh and more USB now that I checked

vocal mantle
#

Well, Now i have a PC on that Has a Intel Core i7 2700K Clocked at a Max of 5.1GHz

#

And i can't get any iGPU drivers installed even if my life depends on it rn

#

I might as well Manually Override the Driver to use some other Driver that might work.

cursive epoch
#

tbf i'd go with a620 boards if you don't need more than like 6-7 usb ports on rear io

tender sleet
#

so that we can save our movies and stuff on it and access it that way on all our devices

cursive epoch
#

well, that kinda justifies it

grizzled bloom
#

Your router would also need 2.5 ports to actually utilize it

cursive epoch
#

that too actually ^

tender sleet
grizzled bloom
#

Fair enough, keep that in mind when you're router shopping then. The ones with all 2.5g ports are super expensive.

tender sleet
#

Yeah I saw that

#

one thing that I read somewhere is that having a 2.5g port is good cuz then you can serve 2 clients at full gigabit speeds at the same time

#

that right?

grizzled bloom
#

Technically yes but you'd need an adapter and custom built cables

tender sleet
#

pain

#

so that's why my internet tanks when my stepdad's computer is on then

grizzled bloom
#

If they're sharing a port yeah. An alternative is to just get a switch.

tender sleet
#

well we have the router from the ISP

#

it's supposedly good

#

(y'know with the old round cable input)

#

like I'm getting ~90 megabits right now

#

and his PC isn't even on

#

92.75/40.54

grizzled bloom
#

At that point I'd just slap a switch on your current router and call it good, who needs all that extra really.

tender sleet
#

Honestly
If I'm spending 600 dollars on a router

#

I want it to have the capability to accept a SIM

#

Mikrotik Chateau 5G AX

grizzled bloom
#

5x 2.5g ports, one of which goes to your router

tender sleet
#

I don't actually think the current router even has 2.5g

#

it's an ISP provided box

grizzled bloom
#

Probably not but it should be fine in theory

tender sleet
#

Yeah I understand now

#

it's 1gb aggregated

#

so if anyone else uses the network it becomes 100mbps ports

#

unless like my cable is broken

grizzled bloom
#

Oof

tender sleet
#

which I doubt

#

then again, you never know with those

#

My best guess is that the common cable in the street is an older one

#

so whatever

#

100mbps is still alright for me

grizzled bloom
#

Will if it is the case that the router is mode switching like that, a dedicated switch using a single port should solve that

tender sleet
#

OH COME ON THAT'S NOT EVEN A SWEAR WORD

#

anyhow

#

he's not exactly flexible, so I'm pretty much forced to acquire my own internet and networking gear if I want better stuff

#

hence me wanting a router that can take a SIM card

#

and frankly ther Mikrotik has everything I can ever need, it will not hold the SIM back from reaching max speeds (even if it's not that impressive on it's own)

#

I can feed the main internet to the Mikrotik, and have my PC, the storage server and maybe a console hooked up (when I get one down the line)

long geyser
#

Even if you pay for it entirely, prolly will be cheaper then SIM. Go for the "win-win" route to get ur dad to switch.

grizzled bloom
#

Latency and dropped packets over 4G/5G is pretty bad too, speaking from experience. I'd often lose connection when gaming and disconnect from servers.

sudden creek
#

When I was camping to go fish in Alaska I worked and attempted to play off of Mobile Data and it was a very horrible experience. I would advise going against it if it can be avoided.

#

How big is the perf difference between a 5800x and 5800x3D?

#

nevermind.

#

Looked it up and it seems to be about 20% in some of the games I play.

#

Does $215 seem reasonable for a new 5800X?

#

Considering doing a upgrade to my cpu from a 5700G

grizzled bloom
#

5700g to 5800x isn't a huge jump tbh

#

The 5700x has the same performance as the 5800x too

sudden creek
#

It does?

grizzled bloom
burnt spear
#

Doesn't 5700g lose to 5600 in gaming?

grizzled bloom
#

Yes, it's more comparable to the 3700x

burnt spear
#

Ah, still not really worth doing 5700g to 5700x then

grizzled bloom
#

The difference between them is exaggerated in csgo too, most other games there's not as much between 3000 and 5000 chips

#

Honestly the only one worth upgrading to on AM4 is the X3D

burnt spear
#

Yeah, but they said that'll hurt their workstation perf in build chat

#

I'd say just save up for 7000 series or 13th gen, if possible

#

If not then maybe a 5900x used?

grizzled bloom
#

Yeah 7000 should go on sale at the beginning of next year when 8000 comes out, which typically means prices stabilize outside the US

hollow thunder
#

If i am getting a 7900xtx how much ram should i get?

#

Is 32GB enough?

tender sleet
#

besides the ISP provides crappy routers anyway

#

and the SIM would only be a backup for traffic past 7pm

grizzled bloom
gusty stirrup
#

is there someone that can help this old man figure out which motherboard and processor i need that wont break the bank?

dull flint
#

What's your budget and need my guy

#

Wait let me change my dialogue a bit

burnt spear
#

Beat me to it again Felix

dull flint
#

What is the pc for and what's your budget

gusty stirrup
#

right now i have a gigabyte ga-z270xp-sli and an intel i7 6700 and my budget is slim to none:) i have a dedicated graphics card and will be reusing that ad well as the 32gig of ram ddr4 i really just need a motherboard and processor comparable to my old one and nod not break the bank

sudden creek
#

What's your budget in terms of, $-$. Also what is the use case as that affects what we recommend.

dull flint
#

Interesting

#

This is ddr4 yes?

gusty stirrup
#

budget depends on when i do this, would really like to keep it under 500 i have a corsai liquid cooler i can reuse as well and really would like to stay with gigabyte ultra durable

#

yes ddr4

sudden creek
#

Might I ask why specifically Ultra Durable from Gigabyte?

dull flint
gusty stirrup
#

i have always had giabyte boards with zero trouble

dull flint
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But not a lot of good cheap options from them right now

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If any

sudden creek
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You can still have it done with Gigabyte at your price point just beware it'll cost you.

dull flint
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So next question, what's the graphics card Jim

gusty stirrup
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its an geforce 1060 i think

dull flint
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Alr, last question

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How old is the pc case and psu and how big is your ssd?

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Actually a couple more

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What's the pc being used for?

gusty stirrup
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i edit photos but not professional

sudden creek
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What software?

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Adobe?

gusty stirrup
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also just general word procession

dull flint
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Don't do anything super heavy like say, any games?

gusty stirrup
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i use dxo for my photo editing software

dull flint
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How much storage have you got

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Do you have an ssd

gusty stirrup
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no gaming

sudden creek
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How many storage slots do you need?

gusty stirrup
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i have a brand new 980 pro 2gb

dull flint
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How much did that cost

gusty stirrup
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100

dull flint
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Ok that's not too bad

gusty stirrup
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i have 6 storage drive now

dull flint
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I would suggest updating that ssd with software called "samsung magician"

dull flint
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This matters for the motherboard

gusty stirrup
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i bought that driv eo upgrade this system and all of a sudden its having issues

dull flint
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Yes

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980 pro has had firmware issues as of early this year

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It leads to accelerated wear and the drive locking down to "read-only" mode

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Updating the firmware via "samsung magician" software should fix this

gusty stirrup
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it has the correct firmware and i did use samsung to clone and now have it at a computer guy working on it but it dosent look good

dull flint
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I see

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So will you claim warranty on it if it appears to be buggered?

gusty stirrup
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you mean the drive? absolutely

dull flint
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Ok no worries, so I won't include an ssd in the budget

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Last question

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What's the size and type of drive for each you have?

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You said 6 drives

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How many of them are SATA

gusty stirrup
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i have had extensive conversations with samsung already

dull flint
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Do you know?

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Really the type is actually all I need to know to be honest

gusty stirrup
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4 ssd 2 sata

dull flint
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Ok so 1 nvme ssd, 3 sata ssd, 2 hard drives, is that right? 4, 2?

gusty stirrup
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correct i plan on using my old m.2 as storage on a pcie card as well

dull flint
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Right ok so I'll find a motherboard with 6 sata then

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Your case is atx? Like full sized? Or smaller

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You can have atx or matx (there are others but these two are common)

gusty stirrup
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yes atx case i do not need the latteset and greatest just functional until now i have has zero issues with this computer and it is 7 years old, the mother board is 5 years old the first one an asis shot craps early on

dull flint
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@gusty stirrup edit: nvm

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These two parts in this weblink

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You're lucky, gigabyte seems to fit the bill here

gusty stirrup
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lucky, thats a switch, if it wernt for bad luck id have no luck at all

dull flint
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The cpu comes with a cooler, or you can use the AM3/FM3 mounting from your water cooler

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And if you need wifi, I can recommend a wifi card

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Or get the wifi version of this for a little more

gusty stirrup
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dont use wifi on this one, does that board have a usgc on it as well

dull flint
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Usgc? What's that

gusty stirrup
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usb c

dull flint
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Oh

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Uh hold on

gusty stirrup
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sorry old arthritic fingers

dull flint
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Wait nevermind, that board said it has 6 but it actually has 4 sata

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Nevermind give me a few minutes to find one with usbc

gusty stirrup
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is the processor at least as fast as the one i have now

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just noticed it was an amd, will my liquid cooler fit that board

dull flint
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This works

dull flint
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Gone are the days of skylake, where we had basically the same thing for years and years

dull flint
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Trying to match it with the amd side of things and I can't, the intel list is better

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6 core processors these days are quite quick

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I would say above would be plenty sufficient and won't break the bank

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I couldn't really see a gigabyte for the intel side of things tho that match your specific needs

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Well at least, as cheap as this

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With the above list @gusty stirrup you would need to buy the new cooler though

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Unless your liquid cooler is very new

gusty stirrup
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hang on on the phone

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hang on i am on the phone

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i am back, i will look at these items later this evening, thank you very much for you excellent help

upper aspen
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,cmos

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!cmos

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.cmos

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?cmos

silk jungleBOT
upper aspen
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YAY

eternal helm
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looking to upgrade my ram in my g14 to 32gb. i have 16gb already soldered in and an unused slot i can toss another stick in. not super knowledgeable with ddr5 so yeah. the soldered stick is 4800mt/s stuff according to task manager, and heres the timings from hwinfo64

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grizzled bloom
eternal helm
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So just any 16gb ddr5 will do?

grizzled bloom
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Pretty much yeah

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No matter what you get, it'll only run at the speed of the slowest memory. Which in your case it doesn't get much slower.

fast moth
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Is it worth buying used mobo cpu and ram?

grizzled bloom
# fast moth Is it worth buying used mobo cpu and ram?

It can be. Some people are very opposed to buying used because there may be small annoying issues or outright scams, and you don't get warranty support.
On the other hand, you can get a much higher tier set of parts for the same price as you would pay new.
Personally it depends on whether I deem a deal good enough and a seller reputable enough.

fast moth
burnt spear
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Apparently 13600k is beating all of am5 in Starfield and 12600k beats the 5800x3d lol

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Tested with an xtx at 720p

dull flint
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Possible

cerulean wadi
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Starfield is funky like that.

vast meadow
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✨Bethesda ✨

split copper
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befebsdeb

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💦

little kelp
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Guys

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Can I pair a 13400f with a 7800xt without a bottleneck

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If I play 1080p gpu heavy games

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Would there be a bottleneck

burnt spear
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7800xt complete overkill for 1080p

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But that should be fine, but if you haven't bought anything yet I'd go for 7600

little kelp
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I dont remember if my monitor is 1440p

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And I dont remember what it was called

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Think it was tho

little kelp
burnt spear
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One sec

little kelp
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I need to change motherboard thne

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I was gonna use the msi b760 with wifi

burnt spear
sudden creek
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Please tell me there is a way to fix USB Dropout.... ANYTHING!

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This is legitimately becomming infuriating. My USBs are dropping out every few seconds and in the process beeping like a g0d damn siren.

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Restarting calms the dropping out but not a permanent fix..

grizzled bloom
sudden creek
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Gotcha. Will definitely try those.

grizzled bloom
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Oh and make sure your chipset drivers are up to date

sudden creek
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Noted. Will try those tommorrow.

sudden creek
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Will updating my bios reset my oc profiles? Also, is there a way to do it without a USB stick?

vast meadow
long geyser
long geyser
# sudden creek Will updating my bios reset my oc profiles? Also, is there a way to do it witho...

Given above, my recommendation would be to:

  • save as profile cuz next step is slightly risky
  • reset settings and try to Save and Exit BIOS without actually confirming anything
  • get picture of all non-default settings changing to default
  • cancel, save profile to any drive accessible in BIOS (usually USB but sometimes system drives) for above route in hoping it'll work, and then exit BIOS without saving
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Welcome to Very Annoying BIOS Designs 101.

grizzled bloom
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Let's not forget that updating bios can also invalidate all of your old overclocking results entirely

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What once was stable, is now crash city

sudden creek
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So far today my usb's haven't been finicky. I moved a couple of the usbs to another usb slot.

sudden creek
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Okay it seems it's just two specific usbs of mine that are bugging the f out and if updating my bios could reset my oc capabillities I think I will just avoid using those two usbs.

hard leaf
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to add insult to the injury, even with all those recommendations that will not assure you that the dropouts will be solved... is the am4 curse that you need to live with

sudden creek
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Damn....

hard leaf
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so many people i know were driven to insanity by that after they tested every possible thing in the book... so they switched to intel instead xD

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think am5 is free of that tho

olive totem
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can someone explain to me numberings on the ryzen series of desktop cpus

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im assuming similarily to their gpus, higher is normally "better"

burnt spear
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Wdym

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Well

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Higher just means more cores, but not always better

olive totem
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ik its prob not that cut and dry

burnt spear
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7950x and 7950x3d have the highest core counts

olive totem
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mainly what does the 5, 7, and 9 mean

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obv i have a 5 7600

burnt spear
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Basically just core count

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Ryzen 3s have been 4 core

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5s 6 core