#cpus-mobo-and-memory | Newegg | Page 19

cursive epoch Dec 12, 2022, 5:04 AM

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It depends on the cpu, but usually a sizable glob in the middle works fone

unkempt cipher Dec 12, 2022, 5:05 AM

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So like the size of a quarter?

cursive epoch Dec 12, 2022, 5:07 AM

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That works

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But I would go smaller since it can probably seep out

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Doesn't hurt to apply more than less tho

unkempt cipher Dec 12, 2022, 5:09 AM

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Gotcha alright thanks so much, gotta order everything now

versed elk Dec 12, 2022, 8:24 PM

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So I'm working on my second ever build. It will be used for video editing. I'm planning on using the 5800x3d. I am looking at 2 - 16gb 3600 g skill sticks. Is it worth going 2 - 32gb sticks? Or does the price per performance drop off?

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He'll I think I could get 4 - 16gb sticks for the price of 2 - 32 gb sticks

hard leaf Dec 12, 2022, 8:28 PM

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If you will be using it for video editing.... why a 5800x3d? thats a gaming cpu, it sucks at productivity

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a 13600k will beat him full time

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or a 7700x

versed elk Dec 12, 2022, 8:29 PM

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A friend of mine was telling me it was killer for productivity

hard leaf Dec 12, 2022, 8:29 PM

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he is wrong

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is a killer for gaming, but sux at productivity

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they dont use the extra cache

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also 2x32 is way better than 4x16... less stress for the memory controller

versed elk Dec 12, 2022, 8:31 PM

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Good to know. Thanks. I was originally looking at the 13600k, but the mb and ddr5 is a bit on the rich side for me. Maybe I will splurge

hard leaf Dec 12, 2022, 8:31 PM

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you can use ddr4 on the 13th gen as well

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z690 ddr4 can do the trick just fine

versed elk Dec 12, 2022, 8:32 PM

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Yeah but why? If I'm spending for 13th Gen I might as will go for it.

hard leaf Dec 12, 2022, 8:32 PM

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thats true, im just saying its possible

versed elk Dec 12, 2022, 8:35 PM

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How well will the 13600k do with an ek 280mm AIO?

hard leaf Dec 12, 2022, 8:36 PM

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will do fine, you can cool it with a high end air cooler as well

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so, it will be fine

versed elk Dec 12, 2022, 8:36 PM

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Already have the aio

hard leaf Dec 12, 2022, 8:37 PM

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the only cpu that ask for superior cooling is the 13900k, the other ones can fare pretty well on air or 240/280 aios

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ill take the 13600k over the 5800x3d any day of the week, both for production and gaming

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granted video editing will be way better on ddr5 than ddr4, but even on ddr4 it will be better than the 5800x3d

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just so you know

versed elk Dec 12, 2022, 8:41 PM

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OK thanks. How much does ddr5 scale against ddr4? Would 2 8gb stick ddr5 compare to 16gb sticks of ddr4?

hard leaf Dec 12, 2022, 8:42 PM

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its all about transfer rate, both ddr4 and 5 can have the same amount of memory storage, but ddr5 can transfer a lot more info at the same time, thats why ddr5 will be a lot better for video editing

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not that ddr4 is bad, just not as fast as ddr5

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but it will be fast too

versed elk Dec 12, 2022, 8:43 PM

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Yeah I know the size vs rate isn't really comparable. Just 16gb sticks of ddr5 is expensive 😫

hard leaf Dec 12, 2022, 8:44 PM

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they are not as expensive as they used to be, but then again you can go well on ddr4 anyway if you are budget tight

versed elk Dec 12, 2022, 8:46 PM

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I guess I will just have to see how well I do on taxes this year lol

hard leaf Dec 12, 2022, 8:47 PM

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this is a rough comparison, you can look for another videos on youtube

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if you look for more videos eventually you will make a pretty picture of what is better for you

versed elk Dec 12, 2022, 9:05 PM

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OK cool so ddr5 is only generally 5-10% gain. Thanks for the help

burnt spear Dec 12, 2022, 9:26 PM

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versed elk How well will the 13600k do with an ek 280mm AIO?

Will do great

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My 13600k is around 50c in games with a bit worse 280mm

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Haven't seen it go over 80c

versed elk Dec 12, 2022, 10:32 PM

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Nice. Do you oc? I am still a noob so I would only slightly oc.

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@burnt spear

burnt spear Dec 12, 2022, 10:43 PM

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I haven't cpu oced no

amber canopy Dec 12, 2022, 11:36 PM

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1680V2

stoic bane Dec 12, 2022, 11:52 PM

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Should I get 4 ram sticks (4 x 16gb corsair Dominator Platinum) or 2 ram sticks (2 x 32gb, CORSAIR Vengeance RGB Pro SL)?

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My goal is to get the ram sticks for RGB, but I would also like performance and I don't know what the difference would be necessarily if I were to get the 4 instead of the two

hollow thorn Dec 12, 2022, 11:54 PM

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I personally don't like Corsair's rgb on ram but 32gb sticks themselves usually don't OC well, but imc might have more trouble if you do 4x16

stoic bane Dec 12, 2022, 11:56 PM

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Dang.

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Well thanks

amber canopy Dec 13, 2022, 12:00 AM

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The memory controller wouldn't have a problem driving 4 16gb dimms

hollow thorn Dec 13, 2022, 12:01 AM

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Meant for running 3600

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Depending on chip imc might not like 4x16 3600

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If 2x32 sticks were already xmp 3600, they should run fine

cerulean wadi Dec 13, 2022, 4:47 PM

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Ballistix here tomorrow. We'll see if I can get it to 3600c16 on b660 w/ 12400. If not, 3400ish & maybe cL15 is fine. Here's my 12400T btw. Idc, but maybe I can adjust PL to get 200+ mhz back. $139 was pretty good. Has igpu also. 👍

grizzled bloom Dec 13, 2022, 7:26 PM

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12400T is probably a 12400 that failed frequency validation so they clocked it down and power throttled it. It'll never hit that 4.4GHz without bclk.

civic bronze Dec 13, 2022, 7:34 PM

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What do you guys think of the MSI B550 Tomahawk mobo?

grizzled bloom Dec 13, 2022, 7:35 PM

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It's fine but for that price you should be jumping up to next gen

civic bronze Dec 13, 2022, 7:38 PM

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You have any recommendations?

grizzled bloom Dec 13, 2022, 7:47 PM

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What's your budget for this and what do you have already?

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There's plenty of B660 (intel) and B650 (amd) boards for less than that tomahawk costs

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If you have DDR4 memory already you can go for a B660 and a cpu that fits your budget

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If you don't have the memory yet I'd still go Intel right now unless you have a specific reason to want AMD

civic bronze Dec 13, 2022, 7:49 PM

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I do have ddr4 and a ryzen 7

grizzled bloom Dec 13, 2022, 7:50 PM

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Which ryzen 7? There's about a dozen of them

civic bronze Dec 13, 2022, 7:51 PM

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5800x3d my bad

grizzled bloom Dec 13, 2022, 7:52 PM

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Ah ok then. You can do a much cheaper B550 than the Tomahawk that will have the same performance and features you need.

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Are there any special features you want like wifi, high speed lan, usb c?

civic bronze Dec 13, 2022, 7:52 PM

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Nope

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And I know this Is wrong channel...but are the AIO coolers any good?

grizzled bloom Dec 13, 2022, 7:55 PM

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Yeah, I'd recommend the arctic liquid freezer for its offset bracket. It'll help tame that hot chip.

civic bronze Dec 13, 2022, 7:58 PM

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Well unfortunately I already have a different one ordered F

grizzled bloom Dec 13, 2022, 7:59 PM

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A couple options
https://www.newegg.com/msi-pro-b550-vc/p/N82E16813144547
https://www.newegg.com/gigabyte-b550-gaming-x-v2/p/N82E16813145255

civic bronze Dec 13, 2022, 7:59 PM

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I can't send pics in here or I'd show you

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And thank you for the help

grizzled bloom Dec 13, 2022, 8:00 PM

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Which one? The 5800X3D is one of the hottest CPUs in the market right now and needs a 360mm or really good 280mm

civic bronze Dec 13, 2022, 8:01 PM

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I dmd it

grizzled bloom Dec 13, 2022, 8:01 PM

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H150i Elite... acceptable but not ideal

civic bronze Dec 13, 2022, 8:02 PM

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Dang...I should have asked here first then lol

grizzled bloom Dec 13, 2022, 8:03 PM

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It'll work ok if you're just gaming. Don't worry about it hitting 90 degrees too much, that'll happen on almost any cooler.

civic bronze Dec 13, 2022, 8:05 PM

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Well I'll mostly be gaming...but I stream some to, but I use a capture card for that most of the time

dull flint Dec 13, 2022, 8:06 PM

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Do you have a mobo that works already btw?

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Or ur going straight for a new build with the x3d

civic bronze Dec 13, 2022, 8:06 PM

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Yeah but I'm going to a better cpu@dull flint

dull flint Dec 13, 2022, 8:06 PM

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Ah, what board is it?

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You mightn't need a new board is why I ask

civic bronze Dec 13, 2022, 8:06 PM

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A horrible one haha

grizzled bloom Dec 13, 2022, 8:07 PM

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Odds are good that even a mid tier B350 can handle the load at stock

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Especially if you undervolt

dull flint Dec 13, 2022, 8:07 PM

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Yeah, worth knowing

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The best appeal in the X3D is it's a drop-in upgrade

civic bronze Dec 13, 2022, 8:08 PM

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It's a super cheap asus...let me find the specs

grizzled bloom Dec 13, 2022, 8:08 PM

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The only way it'll be insufficient is if it doesn't have VRM heatsinks

civic bronze Dec 13, 2022, 8:09 PM

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A320m possibly

dull flint Dec 13, 2022, 8:09 PM

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Haha still possible to work

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Sadge, no heatsinks

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@grizzled bloom call me stupid if this is a dumb idea

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Could you buy an m.2 heatsink to stick it on a board

grizzled bloom Dec 13, 2022, 8:11 PM

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You'd want it to be mounted properly with proper pressure over the vrm

dull flint Dec 13, 2022, 8:11 PM

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Pressure huh MonakHmmm

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Well yeah I agree with upgrading the board @civic bronze

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Lolol

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But always worth checking first

civic bronze Dec 13, 2022, 8:12 PM

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Yeah thanks for the help

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I'm also not sure if I will have to upgrade the power either...but I'm not sure if this is the right channel to ask hah

dull flint Dec 13, 2022, 8:15 PM

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Go for it, what psu you have, and what gpu are you going to use?

civic bronze Dec 13, 2022, 8:16 PM

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The only thing i know about the psu is its 600w....I have a 2070 currently but might upgrade

burnt spear Dec 13, 2022, 8:17 PM

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I would check the model

dull flint Dec 13, 2022, 8:17 PM

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We like to know the exact psu name here as it helps us to learn if it's a psu loaded with safety features or something barebones, stripped and dodgy

grizzled bloom Dec 13, 2022, 8:18 PM

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2070 and 5800X3D should be happy on a 600W C tier

civic bronze Dec 13, 2022, 8:18 PM

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Alright let me check

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600W Digital Storm Performance Series

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That's all I can find

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It was a pre-built I got from a friend and I'm pretty much stripping it

grizzled bloom Dec 13, 2022, 8:26 PM

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They'll take just about anything and rebrand it. Does it have any modular cables? Or all permanent

civic bronze Dec 13, 2022, 8:27 PM

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It has modular cables

grizzled bloom Dec 13, 2022, 8:28 PM

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All modular or some?

civic bronze Dec 13, 2022, 8:28 PM

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All

grizzled bloom Dec 13, 2022, 8:33 PM

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Ok so based on the available data that should at least be a C tier unit

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There's very few fully modular 600W units and they're all C or higher that I can see

civic bronze Dec 13, 2022, 8:36 PM

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So it should be good?

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Unless I get a better gpu

grizzled bloom Dec 13, 2022, 8:41 PM

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Yep I'd say it'll be ok

civic bronze Dec 13, 2022, 8:42 PM

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Alright ...thanks for all the help

cerulean wadi Dec 14, 2022, 3:36 AM

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grizzled bloom 12400T is probably a 12400 that failed frequency validation so they clocked it d...

We'll find out soon, lol. Idk if it's mostly that or part was making em also lower power for oems. 4.2ghz isn't too bad. Just trying to sell my FS140 for not much loss & switch to a modest $15-20 single tower, or save it for 13600(K). Also: (pic) Pog

devout mothBOT Dec 14, 2022, 5:14 AM

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drjuanf#8721 has been warned

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cedar kindle Dec 14, 2022, 8:23 AM

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Is $80 a decent/average price for 32GB of DDR4 2x16 3200mhz RAM?

dull flint Dec 14, 2022, 8:30 AM

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to buy or sell?

cedar kindle Dec 14, 2022, 8:30 AM

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To buy

dull flint Dec 14, 2022, 8:30 AM

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to buy? kinda if it has rgb

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if no rgb then no

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$67 gets you that spec

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sorry 70$ now

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https://pcpartpicker.com/product/B8QcCJ/silicon-power-gaming-32-gb-2-x-16-gb-ddr4-3200-cl16-memory-sp032gxlzu320bdaj7

Silicon Power GAMING 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-3200 CL16 Memory (SP032...

Silicon Power GAMING 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-3200 CL16 Memory (SP032GXLZU320BDAJ7)

cedar kindle Dec 14, 2022, 8:31 AM

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That’s what I figured, thanks

dusk tide Dec 14, 2022, 12:48 PM

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New to this PC world. But I bought a Asus Prime Z390-A 2 years ago and I use a i7-8700 and was looking to upgrade. With my motherboard am I only limited to 8th-9th gen CPUs?

cursive epoch Dec 14, 2022, 12:53 PM

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Yes

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You're only limited to 9th gen tops

dull flint Dec 14, 2022, 12:56 PM

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the shape of the socket means you can only fit certain cpu's in it

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intel (and AMD) change their sockets as time moves on

dusk tide Dec 14, 2022, 1:22 PM

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Ok thank you very much. I’m trying improve my pc for gaming/streaming. Any recommendations or insight on what I should look for when it comes to upgrading my CPU and Mobo for that?

burnt spear Dec 14, 2022, 2:40 PM

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Supposedly intel is making an adl cpu called the n95 that is just 4 ecores with similar performance to the 1400

eternal helm Dec 14, 2022, 5:39 PM

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Does it offer case air filtration too?

sudden creek Dec 15, 2022, 2:42 AM

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Is this ram good? Found this for about $100 cheaper than my Trident Z5 Neo RGB sticks I had in the cart as their price went up by about $120.

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https://www.amazon.com.mx/gp/aw/d/B0BHJN7NF9/ref=ox_sc_act_image_2?smid=A1G99GVHAT2WD8&psc=1

Thermaltake TOUGHRAM XG RGB D5 32GB (2x16GB) DDR5 6000MT/s C36 Memo...

Construido con componentes de alta calidad, el TOUGHRAM XG RGB D5 cuenta con un diseño único y 16 LED para una experiencia de iluminación más dinámica, proporcionando un alto rendimiento de juego con colores RGB vivos. Diseñado con 2 colores diferentes de aluminio y recortado con una raya cromada...

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Cheapest 2x16 c36 6000mhz ram I could find on Amazon.vom.mx with RGB.

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It uses Hynix-M-Dies and has timings of 36-38-38-76.

dull flint Dec 15, 2022, 2:48 AM

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Ooo that sounds decent

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Oo it actually says in the article hynix m

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I approve of this decision

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hmmThumbU

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Save the article when you buy it, as in the event you don't get the hynix m as specified, you can get a refund

sudden creek Dec 15, 2022, 2:53 AM

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Good to know.

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Also, I found the MSI Edge board for the same price as the Tomahawk, which is better?

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https://www.amazon.com.mx/MSI-MPG-Z690-Edge-WiFi/dp/B09KKJG58P/ref=mp_s_a_1_9?crid=2X2CKK0DDDC33&keywords=z690+motherboard+ddr5&qid=1671072489&sprefix=z690+motherboard+ddr5%2Caps%2C253&sr=8-9&ufe=app_do%3Aamzn1.fos.2f990652-065f-4ce4-905d-4c9d6a080141

MSI MPG Z690 Edge - Placa Base WiFi para Juegos (ATX, Intel Core de...

Este producto está fabricado con materiales de calidad. El producto es fácil de usar y se adapta a todos.

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Price difference is about $10

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Both with free shipping and import fees included.

vast meadow Dec 15, 2022, 8:57 AM

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The edge

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Just a bit of extra expandability

hard leaf Dec 15, 2022, 9:06 AM

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better? no?

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both the tomahawk and the edge are basically an msi-a pro but with a lot of flair

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tomahawk : msi-a pro with more heatsinks

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edge : tomahawk with rgb

frosty depot Dec 15, 2022, 9:13 AM

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hard leaf tomahawk : msi-a pro with more heatsinks

Except the tomahawk is way better than the other 2. PepeLmao

sudden creek Dec 15, 2022, 9:14 AM

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Gotcha, also learned from, WiFi (Falcie) that the Edge also has 200mhz higher ram support, and 2 extra sata slots compared to the Tomahawk.

vast meadow Dec 15, 2022, 9:19 AM

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hard leaf better? no?

More ports

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Same vrms

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Different heatsinks

sudden creek Dec 15, 2022, 9:35 AM

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vast meadow Different heatsinks

For better or worse?

vast meadow Dec 15, 2022, 9:35 AM

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Uhh tomahawk and edge are pretty close in that regard

sudden creek Dec 15, 2022, 9:35 AM

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Will stick with the Edge then.

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Also, finally managed to bring the system to sub-2k without sacraficing performance or aesthetics.

hard leaf Dec 15, 2022, 9:55 AM

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nice

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finally after 3 gruesome hours, my 13600kf system is alive

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😄

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had some scarejumps along the way

sudden creek Dec 15, 2022, 9:58 AM

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Neat!

devout mothBOT Dec 15, 2022, 5:22 PM

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Guaddo#4579 has been warned

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naive pendant Dec 15, 2022, 5:30 PM

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What is a good CPU that does well for:

multitasking,
average amount of everyday gaming. COD, Roblox, MC & a couple other large games,
web design/development,
a few art projects,
some Blender modeling.

I'm looking for a CPU that is under 200. But I don't mind if it's a little above.

hollow thorn Dec 15, 2022, 5:33 PM

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12400

burnt spear Dec 15, 2022, 5:33 PM

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https://pcpartpicker.com/product/JmhFf7/amd-ryzen-7-5700x-34-ghz-8-core-processor-100-100000926wof best bet

AMD Ryzen 7 5700X 3.4 GHz 8-Core Processor (100-100000926WOF) - PCP...

AMD Ryzen 7 5700X 3.4 GHz 8-Core Processor (100-100000926WOF)

naive pendant Dec 15, 2022, 5:34 PM

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Everyone keeps suggesting me the AMD 5600

hollow thorn Dec 15, 2022, 5:34 PM

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It'll probably take a bit more information, total budget and spread of what you're expecting to do with it

naive pendant Dec 15, 2022, 5:35 PM

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Is there not any good Intel CPUs

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Lol

hollow thorn Dec 15, 2022, 5:35 PM

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5700x is 200$ right now so on that front, 5700x is a better bet than 5600

burnt spear Dec 15, 2022, 5:35 PM

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naive pendant Is there not any good Intel CPUs

not under 200

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13600kf is great for the price

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and 12600kf is down to 224 right now

hollow thorn Dec 15, 2022, 5:36 PM

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12400f is decent for 160$ but it'll be worse for most multithread workloads

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But if for some reason that 40$ saved gets you a better GPU and you want the better gaming experience, that's the better option

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Otherwise, 5700x is better for most tasks outside of gaming

naive pendant Dec 15, 2022, 5:38 PM

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Ok

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I won't be streaming or anything of that sort. I'll probably end up getting addicted to gaming & not doing anything productive lol

burnt spear Dec 15, 2022, 5:41 PM

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streaming is more gpu heavy than cpu now

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cpu encoding for streaming is painful in most cases

naive pendant Dec 15, 2022, 5:41 PM

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Yea I heard

hollow thorn Dec 15, 2022, 5:41 PM

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What's going to be the total budget and what are you looking at in terms of other parts right now?

burnt spear Dec 15, 2022, 5:41 PM

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^

naive pendant Dec 15, 2022, 5:42 PM

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I already got me a case on its way right now

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I'm still figuring out my GPU

burnt spear Dec 15, 2022, 5:42 PM

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do you have a pcpartpicker.com list?

naive pendant Dec 15, 2022, 5:42 PM

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Yes

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But I got several lists lol

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I'll show some

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Give me a sec

hollow thorn Dec 15, 2022, 5:43 PM

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What have you bought already, and how much are you willing to spend now for the rest of the parts?

naive pendant Dec 15, 2022, 5:44 PM

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https://pcpartpicker.com/list/jrKdPX

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I'm trying to keep it below 11 hundred

burnt spear Dec 15, 2022, 5:45 PM

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psu super overpriced

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aside from that looks nice

naive pendant Dec 15, 2022, 5:45 PM

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But I'm pretty sure I'm going to have to spend about that much for things like the monitor & keyboard.

burnt spear Dec 15, 2022, 5:45 PM

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i'd change psu to bitfenix formula gold 650

naive pendant Dec 15, 2022, 5:45 PM

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Ok. Duly noted

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I think I got my SSD figured out

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My CPU is probably figured out

cursive epoch Dec 15, 2022, 6:15 PM

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Looks all good

vast meadow Dec 15, 2022, 7:36 PM

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naive pendant https://pcpartpicker.com/list/jrKdPX

If you don't currently have the psu and case I'd stretch for this:
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/vK7gyK
If you already have a case but not the psu then I'd consider stretching to this:
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/sBqXqm
If you already have the psu and case:
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/YspJDq

Part List - AMD Ryzen 5 5600, Radeon RX 6700, Fractal Design Focus ...

Part List - AMD Ryzen 5 5600, Radeon RX 6700, Fractal Design Focus 2 ATX Mid Tower

Part List - AMD Ryzen 5 5600, Radeon RX 6750 XT - PCPartPicker

Part List - AMD Ryzen 5 5600, Radeon RX 6750 XT

Part List - AMD Ryzen 5 5600, Radeon RX 6750 XT - PCPartPicker

Part List - AMD Ryzen 5 5600, Radeon RX 6750 XT

naive pendant Dec 15, 2022, 10:03 PM

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I got the case, not the PSU or anything else. I'm probably going with that CPU.

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The only thing that I need to figure out is a good mobo, GPU & RAM.

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Anyone know a really good mobo for the AMD R5 5600? I mean in compatibility, how gud it is, & if it has plenty of ports/slots?

dull flint Dec 15, 2022, 10:06 PM

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The mobo, ram and gpu are in the list

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Click this that pato did:
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/sBqXqm

Part List - AMD Ryzen 5 5600, Radeon RX 6750 XT - PCPartPicker

Part List - AMD Ryzen 5 5600, Radeon RX 6750 XT

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For compatibility terms you have a handful of working options with that chip, it's a bit bare on the IO but it also works to the budget

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6 usb ports isn't bad tho relatively speaking

delicate iris Dec 15, 2022, 10:41 PM

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Say someone left a CPU outside in sub freezing temperatures for a few hours, how long should I wait to install it in the motherboard without the risk of condensation?

eternal helm Dec 15, 2022, 10:58 PM

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Depends on humidity and stuff

amber canopy Dec 15, 2022, 11:03 PM

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delicate iris Say someone left a CPU outside in sub freezing temperatures for a few hours, how...

Why would that happen though, I'm confused

dull flint Dec 15, 2022, 11:04 PM

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That's not how 2 overclock worryweird

delicate iris Dec 15, 2022, 11:04 PM

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its 72 degress inside and 21 outside so its starting to sweat

amber canopy Dec 15, 2022, 11:04 PM

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If that did happen, just warm the cpu back up to room temperature or a bit colder. You could calculate at what temperature the air around the cpu would start to condense but I forget the formula and I don't wanna Google it

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Humidity, surface temperature, something, I suck at math

dull flint Dec 15, 2022, 11:05 PM

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I would definitely leave it for at least a day

amber canopy Dec 15, 2022, 11:05 PM

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That is totally unnecessary

dull flint Dec 15, 2022, 11:05 PM

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If it's frozen?

amber canopy Dec 15, 2022, 11:06 PM

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Literally all it needs is to be warmed back up to the point where the air won't condense on it lol

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Heck, I've thawed hardware by putting it under hot water before kappa

dull flint Dec 15, 2022, 11:06 PM

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Hmm ok

eternal helm Dec 15, 2022, 11:12 PM

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Just please do not thaw it in the microwave

amber canopy Dec 16, 2022, 12:09 AM

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You can always use a torch

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sudden creek Dec 16, 2022, 1:15 AM

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amber canopy

.....

bronze summit Dec 16, 2022, 2:52 AM

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delicate iris its 72 degress inside and 21 outside so its starting to sweat

My aio started to do that

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I brought it back inside from the window

delicate iris Dec 16, 2022, 3:47 AM

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yay it still worked, now I have to install 4 separate BIOS updates in order to get my actual expensive processor to work. The newest BIOS disables the processor i'm currently using to update the BIOS so I don't know how thats gonna go.

cursive epoch Dec 16, 2022, 4:29 AM

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If board has flashback it's doable

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If not, well..

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Gotta buy a cpu

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Or borrow from someone

amber canopy Dec 16, 2022, 4:38 AM

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ch341a lol

long geyser Dec 16, 2022, 6:26 AM

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Yes, but also no. Cant trust the average person to know how to properly use external BIOS flasher tbf. I've only gotten to talk to two people who tried to use an external BIOS flasher without proper knowledge, both killed or almost killed their ROM chip with incorrect voltages.

amber canopy Dec 16, 2022, 6:27 AM

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it's an option

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thats why i brought it up

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it's obviously the person's choice if they want to go that route.

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it's not that hard, and those chips dont die that easily unless you really screw it up, trust me, ive tried.

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all it takes is a couple decent YT tutorials lol

long geyser Dec 16, 2022, 6:30 AM

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How common is it for a 1.8v chip to die from 5v input? That's what happened with the those two people, but I dont really know if their ROM chip died from that as they flashed it on an already dead GPU.

amber canopy Dec 16, 2022, 8:57 AM

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Oh they were 1.8V? 3V chips are more common. those are the ones I tested

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Most CH341a chips come with the 1.8V adapters though so.... really silly user error on their part unless they didnt get one

mild jackal Dec 16, 2022, 9:29 AM

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That will kill it instantly

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Yes most ch341a come with adapters or switches, but it's an easy mistake to make

fluid wharf Dec 16, 2022, 4:28 PM

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Asus a407m
My friend just bought this
PNY xlr8 ddr4 sodimm 8gb
He say the bios detect the memory but stuck on asus logo loop,

hollow knot Dec 16, 2022, 6:00 PM

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fluid wharf Asus a407m My friend just bought this PNY xlr8 ddr4 sodimm 8gb He say the bios d...

Single or double? And is he mixing his ram

fluid wharf Dec 16, 2022, 6:21 PM

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Single,no mix

long geyser Dec 16, 2022, 7:29 PM

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For GPUs seems like 1.8V is common. Mobos I guess are common for 3V? Also how common is it for the CH341A's 5V only data lines to kill 3V ROM chips?

amber canopy Dec 16, 2022, 8:06 PM

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long geyser For GPUs seems like 1.8V is common. Mobos I guess are common for 3V? Also how co...

My chips only got hot, they never died

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Longest I kept one in was probably like 30s to a minute or so, I don't remember

heavy agate Dec 16, 2022, 8:13 PM

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What is the best memory in this configuration:

128GB 8x16GB DDR4-3200 PC4-25600 1Rx4 RDIMM ECC Registered Memory

For this motherboard:

ASUS Pro WS WRX80E-SAGE SE WIFI sWRX8 AMD WRX80 SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 HDMI Extended ATX AMD Motherboard

Thanks.

amber canopy Dec 16, 2022, 8:13 PM

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heavy agate What is the best memory in this configuration: 128GB 8x16GB DDR4-3200 PC4-25600...

@mild jackal

unkempt cipher Dec 16, 2022, 11:52 PM

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Hey is there anyway of taking our the backplate anywhere here that I'm not seeing?

vast meadow Dec 16, 2022, 11:53 PM

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did you unscrew it from the front?

unkempt cipher Dec 17, 2022, 12:00 AM

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vast meadow did you unscrew it from the front?

No I haven't messed with anything yet, I just wanted to know if it was possible to take the backplate out from the back

vast meadow Dec 17, 2022, 12:02 AM

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yeah but you need unscrew the stuff from the front

unkempt cipher Dec 17, 2022, 12:06 AM

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Yeah I thought so just wasn't sure if I had to yoink everything out before I even get to it

grizzled bloom Dec 17, 2022, 12:27 AM

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unkempt cipher Yeah I thought so just wasn't sure if I had to yoink everything out before I eve...

It might be taped or glued down but it shouldn't damage anything if you pull it off

sterile mauve Dec 17, 2022, 2:29 AM

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hey good evening guys i was wondering if someone had time in there day for me to ask them some questions about upgrading the ram in my PC

grizzled bloom Dec 17, 2022, 2:52 AM

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sterile mauve hey good evening guys i was wondering if someone had time in there day for me to...

What are your questions?

sterile mauve Dec 17, 2022, 2:53 AM

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grizzled bloom What are your questions?

can we talk in general 1 cause its a lot to write lol

hard leaf Dec 17, 2022, 2:57 AM

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in fact is better here, general is a mess most of the time with the most random topics xD

grizzled bloom Dec 17, 2022, 2:58 AM

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I can't do VC right now

sterile mauve Dec 17, 2022, 2:59 AM

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im going try my best to explain it

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i wanted to upgrade my ram but the ones i have are sold as a 4 pack and im missing 2 i was wonder if i can just pop 2 more in there or should i buy another pack of 4

dull flint Dec 17, 2022, 3:03 AM

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Ideally buy two larger sticks and sell the 2 you have to avoid stability

sterile mauve Dec 17, 2022, 3:03 AM

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i was thinking that since i really didnt know

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but i dont know what to buy really smh

dull flint Dec 17, 2022, 3:11 AM

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Well depends on what your system specs are

sterile mauve Dec 17, 2022, 3:12 AM

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dull flint Well depends on what your system specs are

are you available for vc 1

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2mins thats it

dull flint Dec 17, 2022, 3:14 AM

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I don't do VC

sterile mauve Dec 17, 2022, 3:14 AM

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ok check this out

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my ram sticks in my pc say corsair vengeance cmk32gx4m4b3200c16 on the side

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when i google it only a 4 pack comes up

dull flint Dec 17, 2022, 3:14 AM

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Ok 32gb ddr4 vengeance pro

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4x8

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You have 2x8

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So 16gb

sterile mauve Dec 17, 2022, 3:15 AM

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yea

dull flint Dec 17, 2022, 3:15 AM

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Just sell them

sterile mauve Dec 17, 2022, 3:15 AM

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but i need 32 or more

dull flint Dec 17, 2022, 3:15 AM

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And then get 2x16 silicon power gaming 32gb

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On amazon they're 67-ish dollars

sterile mauve Dec 17, 2022, 3:15 AM

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ok thats what i was going to do and just but the 2 pack 16

dull flint Dec 17, 2022, 3:15 AM

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Ye

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That's your most net positive here

sterile mauve Dec 17, 2022, 3:15 AM

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so i can put any ram sticks in my pc

dull flint Dec 17, 2022, 3:16 AM

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As long as they're ddr4 yes

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But use 1 kit

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Don't mix

sterile mauve Dec 17, 2022, 3:16 AM

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ok

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can you post links in here

dull flint Dec 17, 2022, 3:16 AM

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https://pcpartpicker.com/product/B8QcCJ/silicon-power-gaming-32-gb-2-x-16-gb-ddr4-3200-cl16-memory-sp032gxlzu320bdaj7

Silicon Power GAMING 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-3200 CL16 Memory (SP032...

Silicon Power GAMING 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-3200 CL16 Memory (SP032GXLZU320BDAJ7)

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This kit

sterile mauve Dec 17, 2022, 3:16 AM

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ok

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are these ok

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https://www.newegg.com/team-32gb-288-pin-ddr4-sdram/p/N82E16820331514

dull flint Dec 17, 2022, 3:17 AM

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Or this if you want rgb
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/kGkWGX/geil-orion-rgb-amd-edition-32-gb-2-x-16-gb-ddr4-3200-cl16-memory-gaosg432gb3200c16bdc

GeIL Orion RGB AMD Edition 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-3200 CL16 Memory ...

GeIL Orion RGB AMD Edition 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-3200 CL16 Memory (GAOSG432GB3200C16BDC)

sterile mauve Dec 17, 2022, 3:18 AM

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i like the ones you just referred
me thanks buddy

hollow knot Dec 17, 2022, 3:18 AM

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i went for g. skill ripjaws v 2x16 for 85

sterile mauve Dec 17, 2022, 3:19 AM

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whats was the price range

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do you have a link

dull flint Dec 17, 2022, 3:19 AM

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85 for ripjaws what freq?

hollow knot Dec 17, 2022, 3:19 AM

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3600

dull flint Dec 17, 2022, 3:19 AM

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Meh

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Ripjaws are the nice g.skills at least but SP's are fine

hollow knot Dec 17, 2022, 3:20 AM

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i went 3600 since i had a ryzen build

sterile mauve Dec 17, 2022, 3:21 AM

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whats is the best for gaming in that price range if you had to decide

dull flint Dec 17, 2022, 3:21 AM

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SP's

sterile mauve Dec 17, 2022, 3:21 AM

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i have a i7-8700k

dull flint Dec 17, 2022, 3:21 AM

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hollow knot i went 3600 since i had a ryzen build

Makes sense

sterile mauve Dec 17, 2022, 3:21 AM

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ok perfect

dull flint Dec 17, 2022, 3:21 AM

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sterile mauve i have a i7-8700k

Definitely the SP's

hollow knot Dec 17, 2022, 3:21 AM

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then philly sp

sterile mauve Dec 17, 2022, 3:21 AM

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ok thanks

violet helm Dec 17, 2022, 7:59 PM

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is corsair rgb pro 3200mhz cl16 16gb ddr4 going to be fine for gaming

vast meadow Dec 17, 2022, 8:12 PM

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It'll work but it's usually super overpriced

violet helm Dec 17, 2022, 8:15 PM

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vast meadow It'll work but it's usually super overpriced

its like 60 bucks or sum

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70 bucks

burnt spear Dec 17, 2022, 8:21 PM

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Silicon power 3200c16 kit is $40

vast meadow Dec 17, 2022, 8:27 PM

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It has no rgb but almost double

hard leaf Dec 17, 2022, 9:03 PM

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violet helm its like 60 bucks or sum

yeah uber overpriced, you can get 2x16 3200c16 at 65usd most of the time

dull flint Dec 17, 2022, 9:25 PM

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Rgb zeniths are another 9$

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And yea you can get 32gb decent sticks for 67$ lol

hardy sage Dec 17, 2022, 10:25 PM

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Is pny ram any good?

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My brother is wanting to buy a pc and we found this

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https://www.bestbuy.com/site/pny-xlr8-gaming-16gb-2x8gb-3200mhz-ddr4-dram-pc4-25600-cl16-1-35v-dual-channel-desktop-dimm-memory-kit-red/5878702.p?skuId=5878702

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is there another brand at the same price and speed that would be better?

vast meadow Dec 17, 2022, 10:29 PM

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hardy sage is there another brand at the same price and speed that would be better?

This is the same perf for 10$ lees
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/P4FKHx/silicon-power-sp016gxlzu320bdaj5-16-gb-2-x-8-gb-ddr4-3200-cl16-memory-sp016gxlzu320bdaj5

Silicon Power GAMING 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 CL16 Memory (SP016G...

Silicon Power GAMING 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 CL16 Memory (SP016GXLZU320BDAJ5)

hardy sage Dec 17, 2022, 10:29 PM

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vast meadow This is the same perf for 10$ lees https://pcpartpicker.com/product/P4FKHx/silic...

Awesome, thanks a lot!

vast meadow Dec 17, 2022, 10:30 PM

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np

whole oasis Dec 17, 2022, 10:42 PM

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Quick question guys, I am planning to buy (2x8) of rams and this is my 2 options,
Kingston Fury Beast 16GB(2x8) 3200MHz DDR4 CL16.
Teamgroup Elite Vulcan TUF 16gb 2x8 Memory 3200mhz Ddr4
MOBO : Gigabyte Z390 GAMING X ATX LGA1151
CPU : Intel Core i5-9600KF
GPU: MSI Gtx 1050ti

dull flint Dec 17, 2022, 10:43 PM

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The cheaper one

whole oasis Dec 17, 2022, 10:43 PM

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what RAM stick is compatible in my MOBO?

dull flint Dec 17, 2022, 10:44 PM

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Likely both are

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Z390 is sort of at the time where it starts to not really matter much which ram

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And 3200 is part of the standard speeds of ddr4

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So it should just work whichever kit you get

whole oasis Dec 17, 2022, 10:46 PM

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because someone told me that if i get 2 3200mhz it will not work on my mobo?

dull flint Dec 17, 2022, 10:48 PM

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Well that board says it supports up to 4133 so I think you're fine

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If they're saying that based on QVL, QVL is a bit of a meme

whole oasis Dec 17, 2022, 10:49 PM

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thank you very much 😄

dull flint Dec 17, 2022, 10:49 PM

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Np

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hmmThumbU

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Just don't go mixing kits

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So like, 2x8 of one kit then 2x8 of another

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It's a big oof

whole oasis Dec 17, 2022, 10:50 PM

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okay okay

dull flint Dec 17, 2022, 10:50 PM

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hmmThumbU

whole oasis Dec 17, 2022, 10:50 PM

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by the way what ram can you recommend?

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ghe cheap one

dull flint Dec 17, 2022, 10:51 PM

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For budget 16gb 2 options

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Silicon power gaming 2x8 is like, 41$

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Silicon power zenith has rgb and is 49$

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2x8 again

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For 2x16 you have silicon power gaming again (yes they like to be the cheapest) at $67

whole oasis Dec 17, 2022, 10:52 PM

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never heard of that brand

dull flint Dec 17, 2022, 10:52 PM

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It's ok

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They're basically hynix mystery meat sticks

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They're very good value for money

cerulean wadi Dec 17, 2022, 10:52 PM

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Lmao, hynix mystery meat. Love that phrasing.

dull flint Dec 17, 2022, 10:52 PM

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I have been using their stuff for a while

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They are tho lol

whole oasis Dec 17, 2022, 10:52 PM

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okay okaay

dull flint Dec 17, 2022, 10:53 PM

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I think the cheapest 2x16 rgb is teamgroup?

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Tforce deltas

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They're like 81$ iirc

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Use this website below

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https://pcpartpicker.com/list/

Choose Your Parts - PCPartPicker

Choose Your Parts

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Go to the memory tab and search these up

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Sort by price lowest first

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It'll give you the cheapest and where to buy

whole oasis Dec 17, 2022, 10:55 PM

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thaank you again 😁

dull flint Dec 17, 2022, 10:55 PM

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hmmThumbU

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I'd send the links myself but quite busy atm

upper aspen Dec 17, 2022, 11:01 PM

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whole oasis because someone told me that if i get 2 3200mhz it will not work on my mobo?

also i u get faster ram then the mobo can handle the ram will just slow down to the maximum supported speed

cursive epoch Dec 18, 2022, 4:06 AM

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3200 will work for basically anything

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as long as it ain't zen 1

grizzled bloom Dec 18, 2022, 7:01 AM

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Zen+ is usually fine with it

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No one should be buying zen 1 today anyway

amber canopy Dec 18, 2022, 7:38 AM

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fr

bronze summit Dec 18, 2022, 1:28 PM

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grizzled bloom No one should be buying zen 1 today anyway

Wym zen 1 is good just like x79

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Hmmmmm

burnt spear Dec 18, 2022, 8:08 PM

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what ram speed would be ideal for 1000 series?

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my friend has one with a single stick of 8gb 2133mhz, so I'm looking for a kit to suggest to him

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but idk if 3200 would be stable

vast meadow Dec 18, 2022, 9:10 PM

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burnt spear but idk if 3200 would be stable

Id say 2933/3000 to be safe

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Could always tell them to xmp then downclock to 3000

burnt spear Dec 18, 2022, 9:12 PM

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he knows nothing about computers so it'd be tedious to show him how lol

vast meadow Dec 18, 2022, 9:14 PM

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Fair enough

gloomy violet Dec 18, 2022, 9:23 PM

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my f panel cable isn’t working. anyone have any suggestions? pc is able to run when using a screwdriver. yes, the pc is plugged in.

amber canopy Dec 18, 2022, 9:25 PM

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bronze summit Wym zen 1 is good just like x79

x79 is literally flat out better than zen 1

bronze summit Dec 18, 2022, 9:26 PM

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amber canopy x79 is literally flat out better than zen 1

sus

amber canopy Dec 18, 2022, 9:26 PM

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🗿

grizzled bloom Dec 18, 2022, 11:05 PM

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1650 v2 scores about the same as a R5 1600 and for a lot cheaper, plus quad channel memory. So yeah x79 is a better choice there I feel.

eternal helm Dec 18, 2022, 11:08 PM

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I'm going to cheat and call the 1600af a zen one due to naming, which beats a 1650 v2

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Get clowned x79 bummer

amber canopy Dec 18, 2022, 11:13 PM

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have fun overclocking memory on it let alone reaching anywhere near the same bandwidth

grizzled bloom Dec 18, 2022, 11:13 PM

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eternal helm I'm going to cheat and call the 1600af a zen one due to naming, which beats a 16...

https://tenor.com/view/thanos-infinity-war-gamora-what-did-it-cost-gif-14001403

Tenor

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1600 AF alone, not including memory or motherboard, costs as much as a 1650 v2, quad channel memory, and motherboard

eternal helm Dec 18, 2022, 11:16 PM

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amber canopy have fun overclocking memory on it let alone reaching anywhere near the same ban...

I'll make a 1600afg then

grizzled bloom Dec 18, 2022, 11:18 PM

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Ok but why cut down the already low cache by adding an iGPU

eternal helm Dec 18, 2022, 11:20 PM

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Fine

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1600AFGx3d

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Now what?

grizzled bloom Dec 18, 2022, 11:20 PM

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That is an abomination and I'm behind it 100%

eternal helm Dec 18, 2022, 11:21 PM

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Would be a giant chip tho

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Be like TR size

grizzled bloom Dec 18, 2022, 11:22 PM

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Not necessarily

hollow thorn Dec 18, 2022, 11:22 PM

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eternal helm 1600AFGx3d

So monolithic and 3dvcache?

grizzled bloom Dec 18, 2022, 11:22 PM

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Yes, I love the idea lol

hollow thorn Dec 18, 2022, 11:23 PM

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Giant block of cache

grizzled bloom Dec 18, 2022, 11:25 PM

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Too bad those zen+ cores can't decouple fclk

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So it'll still be a lower memory bandwidth than x79

long geyser Dec 18, 2022, 11:29 PM

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Hack the architecture's mainframe, make it decouple fclk

amber canopy Dec 18, 2022, 11:49 PM

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eternal helm 1600AFGx3d

wouldnt it be locked then

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garbo cpu

eternal helm Dec 18, 2022, 11:54 PM

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Any piece of silicon can be overclocked if you're determined enough

amber canopy Dec 18, 2022, 11:55 PM

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xeon phi lol

grizzled bloom Dec 19, 2022, 12:08 AM

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eternal helm Any piece of silicon can be overclocked if you're determined enough

Wire an external clock generator to a motherboard that didn't have one in such a way that it only affects the desired clock using a potentiometer

eternal helm Dec 19, 2022, 12:11 AM

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Perfect

amber canopy Dec 19, 2022, 3:00 AM

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vcJDWMpxpjE this is cool

YouTube

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02:40 Warning!
03:25 Preparation
05:10 BIOS update
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08:01 Validation
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Download links:
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▶ Play video

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Some X79 boards also supported this as well, without any funky modding

cursive epoch Dec 19, 2022, 5:56 AM

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bruh damn

dull flint Dec 19, 2022, 6:07 AM

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Another reason to comprehend that this X99 is alien technology

cursive epoch Dec 19, 2022, 6:16 AM

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^

amber canopy Dec 19, 2022, 7:26 AM

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kappa

sterile temple Dec 19, 2022, 9:44 PM

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Hello, just wondering if you know the solution of games crash with XMP enabled on Asus z690 maximus and CORSAIR Dominator Platinum RGB 32GB (2 x 16GB) DDR5 6200 (PC5 49600) Intel XMP 3.0 . I couldn't play a single game, also orange light blinking on the motherboard. I think something wrong on bios or ram I couldn't find the solution yet.

dull flint Dec 19, 2022, 9:58 PM

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sterile temple Hello, just wondering if you know the solution of games crash with XMP enabled o...

Cpu?

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It sounds like a bad kit tbh

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Or board

sterile temple Dec 19, 2022, 10:18 PM

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dull flint Cpu?

i9 12900k

dull flint Dec 19, 2022, 10:18 PM

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Ok that should just run out of the box tbh

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Try 1 stick of each in the two slots A2 and B2 (the second and fourth farthest slots from the cpu) at xmp and see if it will have problems

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1 stick of 16gb is not really slower than 2 sticks with ddr5 due to 2 32 bit channels so it shouldn't impact the experience much

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But you'll be able to test if it's mobo slot or ram stick like this

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Or in a rare event, a bad imc on the cpu

sterile temple Dec 19, 2022, 10:21 PM

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dull flint It sounds like a bad kit tbh

yes I tried and it did not boot on a2 b 2

dull flint Dec 19, 2022, 10:22 PM

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At all?

sterile temple Dec 19, 2022, 10:22 PM

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dull flint At all?

yea it just goes strait to bios

dull flint Dec 19, 2022, 10:22 PM

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And a1 b1?

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A1 b1 is better?

sterile temple Dec 19, 2022, 10:23 PM

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I don't know the numbers but when I had it closer to the cpu it did not boot

dull flint Dec 19, 2022, 10:23 PM

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CPU >>> A1 | A2 | B1 | B2

sterile temple Dec 19, 2022, 10:24 PM

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currently it's on a2 b2

dull flint Dec 19, 2022, 10:24 PM

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Try a1 b1

sterile temple Dec 19, 2022, 10:24 PM

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Okay

dull flint Dec 19, 2022, 10:25 PM

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Unless you already did and it's worse

sterile temple Dec 19, 2022, 10:25 PM

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if it doesn't work, what could be the problem?

dull flint Dec 19, 2022, 10:26 PM

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Bad ram kit

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Easily fixed, just warranty it

sterile temple Dec 19, 2022, 10:27 PM

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dull flint Easily fixed, just warranty it

sweet, and as far as the ram what is the best I could replace it?

dull flint Dec 19, 2022, 10:27 PM

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The same kit

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For free

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That's what warranty is

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Lol

sterile temple Dec 19, 2022, 10:27 PM

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lol and CORSAIR Dominator Platinum RGB 32GB (2 x 16GB) DDR5 6200 (PC5 49600) Intel XMP 3.0 is not bad just my kit is damaged

vast meadow Dec 19, 2022, 10:28 PM

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Or if you get money back, it will depend on where you live mainly

dull flint Dec 19, 2022, 10:28 PM

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Take it back to where you bought it with a receipt and explain what happened

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Or if online, make a warranty claim

vast meadow Dec 19, 2022, 10:28 PM

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sterile temple lol and CORSAIR Dominator Platinum RGB 32GB (2 x 16GB) DDR5 6200 (PC5 49600) Int...

It's pretty badly priced but its okay

dull flint Dec 19, 2022, 10:28 PM

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sterile temple lol and CORSAIR Dominator Platinum RGB 32GB (2 x 16GB) DDR5 6200 (PC5 49600) Int...

It's a very good kit but bad sticks at that point yes

sterile temple Dec 19, 2022, 10:28 PM

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dull flint Or if online, make a warranty claim

I will do that for sure haha

dull flint Dec 19, 2022, 10:28 PM

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Hynix M should just run at 6200 on Maximus

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It's not really copium 4 dimmer enough to not

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Unless you got really unlucky lol

sterile temple Dec 19, 2022, 10:29 PM

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haha

dull flint Dec 19, 2022, 10:31 PM

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If you find yourself with a refund @sterile temple then pop back in here again and give me a ping

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But yeah test a1 b1 first

sterile temple Dec 19, 2022, 10:31 PM

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dull flint If you find yourself with a refund <@838342092232589325> then pop back in here a...

Sure I got it from newegg

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I have to call them back and see the options

dull flint Dec 19, 2022, 10:32 PM

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All g

grizzled bloom Dec 19, 2022, 11:24 PM

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Another C*rsair kit having problems?

delicate iris Dec 20, 2022, 2:22 AM

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Does a chipset driver have anything to with installing BIOS updates? For some reason anytime I try to installed a BIOS revision past 07/2021 it says that the BIOS file is invalid.

grizzled bloom Dec 20, 2022, 2:23 AM

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Not the chipset driver

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But sometimes you need a stepping stone version of bios to update to before doing a newer one

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Especially Asrock and sometimes Gigabyte

delicate iris Dec 20, 2022, 2:25 AM

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I stepped up to the version right below the one I need my CPU to work on but I can't get it to recognize the file for the life of me. I wonder if it's because it will disable support for the CPU I currently have in it on order to update the BIOS.

grizzled bloom Dec 20, 2022, 2:28 AM

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What board are you using and what version are you on currently

delicate iris Dec 20, 2022, 2:29 AM

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ASUS Prime A320M-K, BIOS revision 5606 07/13/2021

grizzled bloom Dec 20, 2022, 2:33 AM

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Ok so when you say it'll remove support for your current cpu, you're using an A series chip or Athlon?

delicate iris Dec 20, 2022, 2:33 AM

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Athlon yeah

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X4 950

grizzled bloom Dec 20, 2022, 2:35 AM

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I think it would still update and just not post afterwards, at least that's what my X470 did

delicate iris Dec 20, 2022, 2:37 AM

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Yeah thats what I was hoping for, I wonder if I'll have to do some complicated EFI shell stuff to force it.

grizzled bloom Dec 20, 2022, 2:38 AM

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You've tried all the newer version of bios? 5862, 6024, and 6042?

delicate iris Dec 20, 2022, 2:38 AM

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Yep all three and used the renaming tool as well just in case

grizzled bloom Dec 20, 2022, 2:41 AM

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Weird
Well the renaming tool is only for flashback

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I've seen issues like this when someone downloaded a bios for a very similar but not quite the same model

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Last thing I can think of is double checking the model name in the bios info page matches exactly to the download page

delicate iris Dec 20, 2022, 2:43 AM

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Gotcha, will do

olive zephyr Dec 20, 2022, 6:25 PM

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Hey one of my friends is looking for what motherboard they have they have a motherboard called Lenovo and the base model is 3716 its black, but I am unsure if I found what I am looking for? I dont want to tell him to get RAM he cant use because the MOBO doesnt support it

hollow thorn Dec 20, 2022, 6:28 PM

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OEM Lenovo board isn't going to be commercially available, what chipset is it?

hollow thorn Dec 20, 2022, 6:29 PM

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olive zephyr Hey one of my friends is looking for what motherboard they have they have a moth...

Actually tell them to download cpuz and take a screenshot of it on the CPU screen

olive zephyr Dec 20, 2022, 6:30 PM

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I never heard of CPUZ

hollow thorn Dec 20, 2022, 6:30 PM

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https://www.cpuid.com/softwares/cpu-z.html

CPU-Z | Softwares | CPUID

CPU-Z is a freeware that gathers information on some of the main devices of your system :

			Processor name and number, codename, process, package, cache levels.
			Mainboard and chipset.
			Memory type, size, timings, and module specifications (SPD).
			Real time measurement of each core's internal frequency, memory frequency.
		
		T...

olive zephyr Dec 20, 2022, 6:34 PM

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hollow thorn https://www.cpuid.com/softwares/cpu-z.html

Which link should he do?

hollow thorn Dec 20, 2022, 6:35 PM

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Classic, English setup

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Custom is just custom skin

inner mist Dec 20, 2022, 6:35 PM

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THANK YOU SO MUCH

hollow thorn Dec 20, 2022, 6:36 PM

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?

olive zephyr Dec 20, 2022, 6:36 PM

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Zennii is my friend

hollow thorn Dec 20, 2022, 6:36 PM

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Ah

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You're welcome

olive zephyr Dec 20, 2022, 6:38 PM

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Here is the MOBO

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@hollow thorn sorry for the ping

cursive epoch Dec 20, 2022, 6:49 PM

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looks like ddr4 running at 3200 mhz

olive zephyr Dec 20, 2022, 6:50 PM

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So his board can handle up to 3200 MHZ of DDr4? Just making sure.

cursive epoch Dec 20, 2022, 6:50 PM

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yes

vast meadow Dec 20, 2022, 6:51 PM

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olive zephyr So his board can handle up to 3200 MHZ of DDr4? Just making sure.

It will only so 3200mhz cl22 though

olive zephyr Dec 20, 2022, 6:51 PM

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I have never heard the term of cl22.

vast meadow Dec 20, 2022, 6:51 PM

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I'd be very surprised if any oem boards have xmp

vast meadow Dec 20, 2022, 6:51 PM

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olive zephyr I have never heard the term of cl22.

It's the cas latency number

hollow thorn Dec 20, 2022, 6:52 PM

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It should just run everything at 3200c22 so while looking for ram you don't have to pay attention to it, even though it performs worse
(Assuming it doesn't let you do xmp)

olive zephyr Dec 20, 2022, 6:53 PM

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This was a prebuilt so I am unsure of what the exact board can do.

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So DDr4, 3200mhz with cl22

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Would you guys recommend a 16 GB, or 32 GB Kit of RAM for this?

vast meadow Dec 20, 2022, 6:57 PM

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hollow thorn It should just run everything at 3200c22 so while looking for ram you don't have...

Will it because ik on normal boards 3200c16 kits will run like 2133

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Depends how much you wanna spend and your use case i guess

olive zephyr Dec 20, 2022, 7:00 PM

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$80 - $200.

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I currently see:

https://www.amazon.com/Corsair-Vengeance-PC4-25600-Desktop-Memory/dp/B07RW6Z692/ref=sr_1_3?crid=24V2NSTNNM0JP&keywords=32+gb+ram+ddr4+3200mhz&qid=1671562765&sprefix=32+gb+ram+ddr4+3200mhz%2Caps%2C95&sr=8-3&ufe=app_do%3Aamzn1.fos.18ed3cb5-28d5-4975-8bc7-93deae8f9840

https://www.amazon.com/TEAMGROUP-T-Force-3200MHz-PC4-25600-Desktop/dp/B08NVQZ9XQ/ref=sr_1_1_sspa?crid=24V2NSTNNM0JP&keywords=32%2Bgb%2Bram%2Bddr4%2B3200mhz&qid=1671562765&sprefix=32%2Bgb%2Bram%2Bddr4%2B3200mhz%2Caps%2C95&sr=8-1-spons&ufe=app_do%3Aamzn1.fos.18ed3cb5-28d5-4975-8bc7-93deae8f9840&spLa=ZW5jcnlwdGVkUXVhbGlmaWVyPUEyTldFVUFYSVoyTUlTJmVuY3J5cHRlZElkPUEwNTY3NzcwMUdMMEZUT09LNDRONSZlbmNyeXB0ZWRBZElkPUEwODc2ODgxM0lHV1FWRlhZVTMzRiZ3aWRnZXROYW1lPXNwX2F0ZiZhY3Rpb249Y2xpY2tSZWRpcmVjdCZkb05vdExvZ0NsaWNrPXRydWU&th=1

Corsair Vengeance LPX 32GB (2X16GB) DDR4 3200 (PC4-25600) C16 1.35V...

Corsair Vengeance LPX 32GB (2X16GB) DDR4 3200 (PC4-25600) C16 1.35V Desktop Memory - Black, 2 count (pack of 1)

TEAMGROUP T-Force Vulcan Z DDR4 32GB Kit (2x16GB) 3200MHz (PC4-2560...

TEAMGROUP T-Force Vulcan Z DDR4 32GB Kit (2x16GB) 3200MHz (PC4-25600) CL16 Desktop Memory Module Ram (Gray) - TLZGD432G3200HC16FDC01

hollow thorn Dec 20, 2022, 7:15 PM

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vast meadow Will it because ik on normal boards 3200c16 kits will run like 2133

Yea but it seems like it was just defaulting to that freq so I'd assume it'd continue doing that

vast meadow Dec 20, 2022, 7:15 PM

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if 16gb https://pcpartpicker.com/product/P4FKHx/silicon-power-sp016gxlzu320bdaj5-16-gb-2-x-8-gb-ddr4-3200-cl16-memory-sp016gxlzu320bdaj5
if 32gb https://pcpartpicker.com/product/B8QcCJ/silicon-power-gaming-32-gb-2-x-16-gb-ddr4-3200-cl16-memory-sp032gxlzu320bdaj7

Silicon Power GAMING 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 CL16 Memory (SP016G...

Silicon Power GAMING 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 CL16 Memory (SP016GXLZU320BDAJ5)

Silicon Power GAMING 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-3200 CL16 Memory (SP032...

Silicon Power GAMING 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-3200 CL16 Memory (SP032GXLZU320BDAJ7)

olive zephyr Dec 20, 2022, 7:19 PM

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Thank all of you for the help ^-^

vast meadow Dec 20, 2022, 7:20 PM

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no prob

cyan raft Dec 20, 2022, 8:18 PM

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Speaking from experience here, Lenovo boards do not offer XMP

vast meadow Dec 20, 2022, 8:22 PM

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cyan raft Speaking from experience here, Lenovo boards do not offer XMP

Yes but does it run xmp sticks at 3200 jedec?

cyan raft Dec 20, 2022, 8:22 PM

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Yeah it does

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That’s what came stock with mine

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Oh XMP sticks, I’m not sure

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I think it might’ve, I know I tried it a while back but I honestly don’t remember

delicate iris Dec 21, 2022, 12:11 AM

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If I use an AMD stock cooler do I need to set a more aggressive/manual fan curve? For some reason my old 2017 CPU is idling at 48 celsius.

grizzled bloom Dec 21, 2022, 12:12 AM

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What cpu exactly?

delicate iris Dec 21, 2022, 12:12 AM

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R5 2600

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Non x version

grizzled bloom Dec 21, 2022, 12:13 AM

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So you've got the wraith stealth, which is the worst of the stock cooler options

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Luckily the 2600 isn't a hot chip

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Idle temps don't matter at all, how's you load temp?

delicate iris Dec 21, 2022, 12:14 AM

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Actually haven't tested it under load yet, got concerned when I saw the idle

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I'll prime95 it and see.

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Also, when putting in an M.2 ssd even if it's unitialized it should still show up in the BIOS right?

grizzled bloom Dec 21, 2022, 12:20 AM

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Yes

delicate iris Dec 21, 2022, 12:33 AM

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Oh I got gen 4 by accident that's probably why it's not showing up.

grizzled bloom Dec 21, 2022, 12:34 AM

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That shouldn't matter, it's supposed to be cross compatible

lusty crow Dec 21, 2022, 7:28 AM

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what would u guys rate the ryzen 7 7800x 1 through 10 disregarding the price for it (please don’t reply with another cpu and say it’s better i just wanna know the general answer)

dull flint Dec 21, 2022, 7:40 AM

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7700X? Meh

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I can't disregard the price as considering what it is, that's a huge factor

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Perf wise? Good, but not in W11

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I know I'm not gonna sound very favourable here but it just makes a lot more sense to shop elsewhere than AM5 rn as the value for money just isn't really there *(yet)

hard leaf Dec 21, 2022, 7:42 AM

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true, 7800x meh

dull flint Dec 21, 2022, 7:42 AM

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If I was to say ignoring a budget, I would still not be picking 7700X as it's not truly winning anything

hard leaf Dec 21, 2022, 7:42 AM

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in fact as felix said, am5 is not worth rn

dull flint Dec 21, 2022, 7:43 AM

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Like for 7700X money I'm sure you could do 5800X3D which is just objectively better for the lay person *in games

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Or otherwise 12600K/13600K for productivity

grizzled bloom Dec 21, 2022, 6:15 PM

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Or just wait 1-2 months for 7800X3D

burnt spear Dec 21, 2022, 6:16 PM

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I wonder how hot am5 x3d will be

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I'm sure they'll bring the wattage down a ton

grizzled bloom Dec 21, 2022, 6:18 PM

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Probably not any hotter than the current ones that are designed to run at 95C

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The IHS will be thinned to make room for the cache

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And a big reason current ones are so hot is that thick IHS

burnt spear Dec 21, 2022, 6:19 PM

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Ah ok

lost epoch Dec 22, 2022, 2:52 PM

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I learned the hard way to not get a ddr5 motherboard unless you have ddr5 ram :/

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First time builder

celest wasp Dec 22, 2022, 10:57 PM

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is this the right channel to ask for help about choosing the right ram for upgrading a newly purchased laptoip?

amber canopy Dec 22, 2022, 11:00 PM

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Yes bbnohappy

naive pendant Dec 23, 2022, 9:17 PM

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Need some help with something

Current setup:
5800X
Gigabyte B550M Aorus Pro-P
EVGA RTX 3080 Ti XC3
32GB Corsair DDR4 3600 18-22-22-42-84-1T
1TB WD SN550 SSD
Corsair RM750x PSU
Corsair H100i RGB Elite
Thermaltake Core P3 TG Snow Edition
3x Sceptre 24" 2k displays

I mostly use my computer to fly on MSFS. I have narrowed my issues of not really making it to the next level of simulation rendering from software to the hardware that I am using. I am close, and considering the previous versions of FS, it looks amazing. But, it can get better, I know this because I have seen it.

My question is this, do I use the platform I have listed above and just get a 5800X3D, or do I invest the money and go AM5?

hollow knot Dec 23, 2022, 9:21 PM

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does pbo harm cpu lifespan?

vast meadow Dec 23, 2022, 9:30 PM

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naive pendant Need some help with something Current setup: 5800X Gigabyte B550M Aorus Pro-P...

5800x is a great cpu and it's too early to buy anything worth your money that's a real upgrade over it and MSFS is a pretty graphically demanding game especially if you're running tripple monitor you should make sure PBO is on in bios, it should give soms nice gains in cpu perf, while you're there, double check XMP is on and you could overclock your gpu, technically you could upgrade but the only real upgrade worth your money right now is a 4090

vast meadow Dec 23, 2022, 9:30 PM

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hollow knot does pbo harm cpu lifespan?

No

hard leaf Dec 23, 2022, 10:39 PM

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just wait for ces on early january for the am5 non x variants or some news on the x3d ones if you are into am5

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if not just as pato said, only upgrade on your setup is a 4090 or a complete overhaul to am5

hollow knot Dec 23, 2022, 10:46 PM

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is there any diff in perf ddr4 vs ddr5 rn

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im not upgrading or anything im just wondering

hard leaf Dec 23, 2022, 10:47 PM

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yeah ddr5 have a higher megatransfer rate

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depending on the app and the MT rate that could translate between 5-20% more performance

hollow knot Dec 23, 2022, 10:49 PM

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hard leaf depending on the app and the MT rate that could translate between 5-20% more per...

but perf is still low min like going between 3080-3090ti /6800xt-6950xt

hard leaf Dec 23, 2022, 10:49 PM

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you are comparing apples to potatoes

hollow knot Dec 23, 2022, 10:49 PM

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nvm then

hard leaf Dec 23, 2022, 10:50 PM

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an example, on games a ddr4 3600c16 is as fast or even faster than a 5200c40 kit

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faster ddr5 like 6000c32 or something translate on a 4-7% more performance in game

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but video apps or cad applications can lever a lot more performance from the higher transfer rate of ddr5 kits

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for gaming ddr5 kits are meh upgrade, but for workload apps ddr5 is way superior

hollow knot Dec 23, 2022, 11:03 PM

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@hard leaf i meant on a gaming perspective

hard leaf Dec 23, 2022, 11:24 PM

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minimal for the amount of money spent

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like 5-8% on a 6200 ddr5

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over a 3600c16 kit

sterile temple Dec 23, 2022, 11:39 PM

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Hey guys, does orange blinking light on the asus motherboard a bad sign?

hard leaf Dec 23, 2022, 11:47 PM

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you should check your mobo manual to be sure

grizzled bloom Dec 23, 2022, 11:48 PM

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sterile temple Hey guys, does orange blinking light on the asus motherboard a bad sign?

That depends on which light exactly it is, there's at least 4 if it's a debug light

sterile temple Dec 23, 2022, 11:55 PM

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grizzled bloom That depends on which light exactly it is, there's at least 4 if it's a debug li...

Z690 Hero underneath the GPU orange light flashing

sterile temple Dec 23, 2022, 11:55 PM

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hard leaf you should check your mobo manual to be sure

sure

grizzled bloom Dec 24, 2022, 12:01 AM

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sterile temple Z690 Hero underneath the GPU orange light flashing

Is it this one?

sterile temple Dec 24, 2022, 12:01 AM

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grizzled bloom Is it this one?

Yes

grizzled bloom Dec 24, 2022, 12:02 AM

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Just an activity light then, nothing to worry about

sterile temple Dec 24, 2022, 12:03 AM

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grizzled bloom Just an activity light then, nothing to worry about

cool thank you

solar marsh Dec 24, 2022, 3:38 AM

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does anyone know what the red lights that the Asrock b550 has mean? the pc i'm using dosent show video and when i connect the gpu it dosent do anything not even the fans

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it has the cpu red light and dram on

cursive epoch Dec 24, 2022, 3:40 AM

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solar marsh does anyone know what the red lights that the Asrock b550 has mean? the pc i'm u...

What cpu, ram and mobo do you have?

solar marsh Dec 24, 2022, 3:41 AM

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hold on

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Screenshot_2022-12-24-00-41-44-595-edit_com.whatsapp.jpg

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it's for a cousin and they told me they had to Buy a new psu cause the last one burned

cursive epoch Dec 24, 2022, 3:42 AM

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cheap prebuilt moment

solar marsh Dec 24, 2022, 3:42 AM

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and i'm thinking that it may have burnt the cpu or mobo

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and or gpu

cursive epoch Dec 24, 2022, 3:42 AM

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well um, if the pc was working before the last psu died

solar marsh Dec 24, 2022, 3:42 AM

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cause the gpu fans don't even work

cursive epoch Dec 24, 2022, 3:42 AM

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the mobo must've been fried

solar marsh Dec 24, 2022, 3:43 AM

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prob

cursive epoch Dec 24, 2022, 3:43 AM

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gpu not sure

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but likely that too

burnt spear Dec 24, 2022, 3:43 AM

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^

cursive epoch Dec 24, 2022, 3:43 AM

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only way would be to test the gpu, cpu and ram in another am4 rig

solar marsh Dec 24, 2022, 3:43 AM

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bru

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i could try them on my pc

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but idk if it'll fit the gpu

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it's massive

cursive epoch Dec 24, 2022, 3:44 AM

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yeah you can try that, but for ram make sure to disable xmp before that

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can cause the pc not to boot with different ram

solar marsh Dec 24, 2022, 3:44 AM

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how can i do that if it dosent even boot

cursive epoch Dec 24, 2022, 3:44 AM

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well i meant for your pc

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that you will be testing the hardware on

solar marsh Dec 24, 2022, 3:44 AM

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oh

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btw

cursive epoch Dec 24, 2022, 3:45 AM

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6700xt shouldn't be too big for many cases

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if it's at least matx

solar marsh Dec 24, 2022, 3:45 AM

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si there any chance of like my pc getting fked

cursive epoch Dec 24, 2022, 3:45 AM

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nope

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not at all

solar marsh Dec 24, 2022, 3:45 AM

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is

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ok

cursive epoch Dec 24, 2022, 3:45 AM

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fried components will just not work

solar marsh Dec 24, 2022, 3:45 AM

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i'll try them on my pc then

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thanks

cursive epoch Dec 24, 2022, 3:46 AM

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if it's just mobo that's dead then that's not too expensive of a fix

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if gpu dies too then yeah, oof

solar marsh Dec 24, 2022, 3:48 AM

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yea they said they sent it to get built and the guy just gave it too much voltage and it fried the psu

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oh bruh

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if i use Radeon don't i need the drivers

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cuz my Main pc has an nvidia gpu

cursive epoch Dec 24, 2022, 3:51 AM

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well yeah

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but it's just a test to see whether it turns on or not

golden pike Dec 24, 2022, 7:07 AM

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sup legends

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yall around ?

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got another weird issue

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might be the wrong chat but - anyone know how i can electronically disable my 2nd pcie slot?

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i didnt realize since i got my capture card (which i dont always use) my gpu has only been getting 8 lanes

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however, i just added 2, 2tb m.2 SSDs to my system and ive entered bandwidth splitting hell

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i know how i wanna do it, i just want to be able to easily and electronically turn of the 2nd pcie slot... i dont see an option for it in bios. the only alternative seems to be to take out my internal capture card when im not using it.

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im also getting a weird issue with USBs now - i cant get into bios with all of my USB's plugged in anymore. the PD is weird and my keyboard isnt getting power quick enough or flickers. There was also a USB over charge or something. never seen this before, didnt add anything. super weird.

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also anyone know of a way to tell how much power is being outputed from a USB C port?

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sorry for so many questions lol

grizzled bloom Dec 24, 2022, 7:21 AM

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The top x16 slot is supposed to be directly connected to the CPU and share 20 lanes with the top m.2 slot so if it's dropping lanes there's another reason for that

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The other slots are supposed to be attached to the chipset and run separately

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Only a few consumer grade boards allow for selective disabling of headers and slots

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I'd recommend a powered USB hub if you have more than a few low power devices plugged in, like keyboard, mouse, headset, etc.

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USB over charge can also be caused by a short circuit, dirt, dust, the like

golden pike Dec 24, 2022, 7:27 AM

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very interestoing

golden pike Dec 24, 2022, 7:27 AM

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grizzled bloom Only a few consumer grade boards allow for selective disabling of headers and sl...

dang this sucks man

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i heard the performance difference is usually like 1-2%

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so im not too worried but ive also seen its as much as 15%

grizzled bloom Dec 24, 2022, 7:28 AM

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It's usually 0% and the 15% is an exception known as the 6500 XT

golden pike Dec 24, 2022, 7:28 AM

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however the only way for me to get 16 back is if i physically go in my case and remove my capture card

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interesting

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i got my 4090 strix

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finally

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do you think x8 and x16 would be a big difference?

grizzled bloom Dec 24, 2022, 7:29 AM

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4090 might manage to use all 16 lanes at 3.0 mode but if you're at 4.0 I doubt it

golden pike Dec 24, 2022, 7:32 AM

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for sure man

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damn in regards to my USB stuff i hope nothing short circuited

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yikes

grizzled bloom Dec 24, 2022, 7:33 AM

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Nah there's protections to keep it from damaging devices. Worst that happens is the port dies.

golden pike Dec 24, 2022, 7:41 AM

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hmm

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for sure

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my system and devices work

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its just weird

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like i can tell

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the bios issue is so weird

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my keyboard just wont get power in time or will hiccup

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i have 8 drives in my system now

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maybe adding the 2 more drives just pushed it over the edge

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or something i have no idea tbh

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ty for the info

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im gonna do more researhc to see if i can just turn of second slot

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cuz having to remove my cc for full bandwidth is sad

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lol

golden pike Dec 24, 2022, 8:58 AM

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If anyone has any suggestions please do@let me know

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Long story short: trying to give my gpu all 16 lanes. I have a capture card in my bottom pcie. This makes the lanes split 8 and 8. However im rarely using the cap card, and would prefer giving my gpu the bandwidth.

I would like to have a way to easily disable the second pcie slot so i dont have to go in my case and remove the cap card whenever i wanna make the switch. Its not as easy as it sounds due to the nature of my build.

My lord and savior @grizzled bloom i believe is saying its likely im out of luck. Anyone have any ideas? Thank you sm.

Basically- i want to leave my cap card and nvme’s in their slots but be able to “disable” them so my system wont recognize it and give my gpu all the bandwidth! Thanks 😊

frosty depot Dec 24, 2022, 9:08 AM

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golden pike Long story short: trying to give my gpu all 16 lanes. I have a capture card in m...

What happens if you go into Windows Device Manager and disable your cc? Will that free up the lanes for your gpu?

golden pike Dec 24, 2022, 9:08 AM

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I have not tried that. I will give it a go when i wake up, heading to sleep now. thats a fantastic idea to try though

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Thanks so much for the suggestion :)))

lime roost Dec 24, 2022, 3:06 PM

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Hey, does anyone know if I can add a m.2 ssd to my ASROCK H510 MB ?

rocky beacon Dec 24, 2022, 3:11 PM

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Does not look like it.

golden pike Dec 24, 2022, 5:47 PM

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frosty depot What happens if you go into Windows Device Manager and disable your cc? Will tha...

hey brother

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this unfortunately didnt end up working D:

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oh well

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any other ideas?

limber dragon Dec 25, 2022, 2:24 AM

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golden pike Long story short: trying to give my gpu all 16 lanes. I have a capture card in m...

which mobo?

golden pike Dec 25, 2022, 2:33 AM

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crosshair extreme viii

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x570

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@limber dragon

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ty in advance

limber dragon Dec 25, 2022, 2:36 AM

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unless you can get it in the very bottom x1 pcie slot, it'll go x8

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unless you want to go into bios each time you want to use the card to enable/disable the second pcie slot

golden pike Dec 25, 2022, 2:39 AM

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limber dragon unless you want to go into bios each time you want to use the card to enable/dis...

is that a thing tho?

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ive looked everywhere - cannot find the option

limber dragon Dec 25, 2022, 2:40 AM

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you should be able to disable pcie slots, but very much so bios to bios options

golden pike Dec 25, 2022, 2:41 AM

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limber dragon unless you can get it in the very bottom x1 pcie slot, it'll go x8

i didnt know

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my mobo has

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i might be blind bro

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ill check lol

golden pike Dec 25, 2022, 9:03 AM

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https://smallbusiness.chron.com/disable-pciexpress-bios-71656.html

Small Business - Chron.com

How to Disable PCI-Express in BIOS

How to Disable PCI-Express in BIOS. If you're having trouble with your computer's PCI-E video card, temporarily disabling it to run diagnostics using the on-board video can be much easier than trying to work around crashes and video glitches. By entering your computer's Basic Input/Output System -- or BIOS ...

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I wish it was this easy lol

golden pike Dec 25, 2022, 9:04 AM

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limber dragon unless you can get it in the very bottom x1 pcie slot, it'll go x8

But yea i check the cc doesnt fit in 1x so rip i just wanna figure out how to electronically disable ugh

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Might not be possible. I looked everywhere

limber dragon Dec 25, 2022, 9:05 AM

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you should be able to just set pcie 1 to x16, and it'll disable slot 2

grizzled bloom Dec 25, 2022, 10:37 AM

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golden pike But yea i check the cc doesnt fit in 1x so rip i just wanna figure out how to el...

You can cut out the end of the slot where it blocks the card. Even x16 cards work in a x1 slot that way. There's boards that come with open ended slots but yours is apparently not one.

golden pike Dec 25, 2022, 2:46 PM

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grizzled bloom You can cut out the end of the slot where it blocks the card. Even x16 cards wor...

We talking physically

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Cut it?

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To fit my capture card

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I will definitely need to look at thos

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This

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Merry christmas my bro

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:))

hard leaf Dec 25, 2022, 4:07 PM

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i did that with my old pc, use a dremel

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my 1x port was closed so i made it an opening to fit an nvme expansion 4x card

lyric turret Dec 25, 2022, 4:42 PM

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anyonwe know why its so high 5ms? monitor is 1ms..

hollow thorn Dec 25, 2022, 4:43 PM

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lyric turret anyonwe know why its so high 5ms? monitor is 1ms..

1 second is 1000ms
200fps is a frame every 5ms

lyric turret Dec 25, 2022, 4:43 PM

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Oh

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Welp ty xD

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How do I check my@input delay then?

hollow thorn Dec 25, 2022, 4:44 PM

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It's not really going to matter to you, it'll take more tools

golden pike Dec 25, 2022, 4:56 PM

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hard leaf my 1x port was closed so i made it an opening to fit an nvme expansion 4x card

Yooo

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Thats awesome

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And did it lose any like major performance..?

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Oh wait i cant do that sadly

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With the way my mobo is

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Rip

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I just need a way to disable this dang thing

golden pike Dec 25, 2022, 4:58 PM

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limber dragon you should be able to just set pcie 1 to x16, and it'll disable slot 2

Any ideas on how to do thisb

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?*

limber dragon Dec 25, 2022, 5:02 PM

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grizzled bloom You can cut out the end of the slot where it blocks the card. Even x16 cards wor...

I wouldn't on a c8e

limber dragon Dec 25, 2022, 5:02 PM

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golden pike Any ideas on how to do thisb

I'll check if my apex has it. Don't really feel like assembling a c8h

cerulean wadi Dec 25, 2022, 5:06 PM

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lyric turret Welp ty xD

1ms on any monitor is usually marketing btw & not really realistic. Although, the monitors with DyAc or w/e have even less blur than some monitors.

hardy sage Dec 25, 2022, 5:35 PM

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How much should i expect to spend on a mobo for an I9 13900k?

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And should i go with z790 or z690?

burnt spear Dec 25, 2022, 5:37 PM

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hardy sage How much should i expect to spend on a mobo for an I9 13900k?

are you making a whole new build or just getting a new cpu

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and are you gaming?

hardy sage Dec 25, 2022, 5:38 PM

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Basically new. Have everything new but my gpu, which is a 2080 super

burnt spear Dec 25, 2022, 5:38 PM

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If you're gaming, I would just go fort a 13600k

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within 3% gaming performance of the 13900k

hardy sage Dec 25, 2022, 5:39 PM

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Cpu is in hand. I will be gaming and streaming.

burnt spear Dec 25, 2022, 5:39 PM

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ah

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F

hardy sage Dec 25, 2022, 5:39 PM

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Once college starts it will be used more

burnt spear Dec 25, 2022, 5:39 PM

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do you have ram and cooler already?

hardy sage Dec 25, 2022, 5:39 PM

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Yes

burnt spear Dec 25, 2022, 5:39 PM

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what are they

hardy sage Dec 25, 2022, 5:40 PM

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32 gb at 3600mhz and a corsair aio

burnt spear Dec 25, 2022, 5:40 PM

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F again tbh... one second

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https://pcpartpicker.com/product/rLzhP6/msi-pro-z790-p-wifi-ddr4-atx-lga1700-motherboard-pro-z790-p-wifi-ddr4

MSI PRO Z790-P WIFI DDR4 ATX LGA1700 Motherboard (PRO Z790-P WIFI D...

MSI PRO Z790-P WIFI DDR4 ATX LGA1700 Motherboard (PRO Z790-P WIFI DDR4)

hardy sage Dec 25, 2022, 5:41 PM

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Is that the absolute best?

burnt spear Dec 25, 2022, 5:42 PM

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no, but the absolute best would run you $1000

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which is just pointless

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spending hundreds on a mobo is pointless for most people

hardy sage Dec 25, 2022, 5:43 PM

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Ah, didnt know that

burnt spear Dec 25, 2022, 5:43 PM

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it'll be more than enough for a 13900k

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tbh the $150 b660 aorus pro ax would likely be fine

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$130 b660 mag bazooka would be too, but no bios update button

cerulean wadi Dec 25, 2022, 5:51 PM

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I'll toss in a vote for that z790.

hardy sage Dec 25, 2022, 6:25 PM

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👍

neon void Dec 25, 2022, 7:01 PM

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hello I am trying to install the ryzen 5 5600x into my pc I have the strix b450-f Gaming II mobo do I need to update my bios?

meager elbow Dec 25, 2022, 7:04 PM

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you might

neon void Dec 25, 2022, 7:04 PM

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yea

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it has the button

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how would I know if I need to update it or not tho cause I haven't touched anything inside my pc in a year I kind of forgot how to do certain things

hardy sage Dec 25, 2022, 7:15 PM

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burnt spear https://pcpartpicker.com/product/rLzhP6/msi-pro-z790-p-wifi-ddr4-atx-lga1700-mot...

What would be the difference between the one you said and this one? https://us-store.msi.com/MAG-Z790-TOMAHAWK-WIFI-DDR4?utm_source=hatch&utm_campaign=MSI+Systems&utm_content=63a89fa1dbbb0b745ba4e811

MSI MAG Z790 TOMAHAWK WIFI DDR4 Motherboard - MSI-US Official Store

MAG Z790 TOMAHAWK WIFI DDR4

neon void Dec 25, 2022, 7:15 PM

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https://rog.asus.com/ca-en/motherboards/rog-strix/rog-strix-b450-f-gaming-ii-model/spec/

ROG STRIX B450-F GAMING II | ROG STRIX B450-F GAMING II | Gaming Mo...

ROG Strix B450-F Gaming II ATX motherboard features a robust power delivery, optimal cooling controls, AI Noise-Canceling Microphone, AI Networking and cyberpunk-inspired aesthetics.

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checking rn

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well first the one I have is am4

burnt spear Dec 25, 2022, 7:16 PM

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hardy sage What would be the difference between the one you said and this one? https://us-s...

this one being overpriced

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in terms of usability there is no difference

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the only feature you might use is more ports on the io

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that's about it

hardy sage Dec 25, 2022, 7:17 PM

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Okay, thank you!

sour estuary Dec 25, 2022, 7:25 PM

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😬 ok need help and suggestion ddr3 sodimm for laptop

limber dragon Dec 25, 2022, 7:29 PM

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golden pike Any ideas on how to do thisb

not seeing it on my apex, might not be on your's either then

golden pike Dec 25, 2022, 7:34 PM

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rip thanks for checking bro appreciate it

limber dragon Dec 25, 2022, 7:51 PM

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its usually in a bifurcation/speed menu, and there's just nothing here

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and Im I'm seeing is speed select, not enable/disable

neon void Dec 25, 2022, 9:23 PM

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Just put in a new cpu and now the monitor won’t turn on and my keyboard and mouse don’t light up

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Ryzen 5 5600x and strict b450f II mobo

burnt spear Dec 25, 2022, 9:40 PM

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neon void Ryzen 5 5600x and strict b450f II mobo

You need to update bios

cedar kindle Dec 25, 2022, 9:45 PM

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So right now there’s an $80 price difference between the 12600k and 13600k. Is the price to performance difference worth it for the 13600k paired with a 3070?

cerulean wadi Dec 25, 2022, 10:03 PM

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Not imo. 13600k wattage also moderately higher also afaik.

burnt spear Dec 25, 2022, 10:04 PM

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With a 3070 won't matter

narrow canyon Dec 26, 2022, 4:04 AM

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I have a question about RAM utilization

grizzled bloom Dec 26, 2022, 4:05 AM

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What about it

narrow canyon Dec 26, 2022, 4:06 AM

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when i'm idle, its at 60%, i've done what google says but nothings changed

cursive epoch Dec 26, 2022, 4:06 AM

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how much ram do you have in your system?

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and what are you doing to have that much ram usage

narrow canyon Dec 26, 2022, 4:07 AM

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only 8gb ddr4, i plan to upgrade but later

grizzled bloom Dec 26, 2022, 4:07 AM

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Is that used or reserved

narrow canyon Dec 26, 2022, 4:07 AM

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reserved i think

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5 gig used

grizzled bloom Dec 26, 2022, 4:07 AM

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Oh 8gb yeah modern Windows OS wants more

cursive epoch Dec 26, 2022, 4:07 AM

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Yeah that's normal

narrow canyon Dec 26, 2022, 4:07 AM

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i have windows 11

grizzled bloom Dec 26, 2022, 4:07 AM

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I'm sitting at 5.8GB with just discord and one firefox tab

narrow canyon Dec 26, 2022, 4:08 AM

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4.5 with just discord

cursive epoch Dec 26, 2022, 4:08 AM

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windows 10/11 takes up quite a chunk of ram

grizzled bloom Dec 26, 2022, 4:08 AM

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Yep

narrow canyon Dec 26, 2022, 4:09 AM

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ok that makes me feel better, how much ram would be good, i can run most games fine but when i loaded fortnite i had like 10 frames

cursive epoch Dec 26, 2022, 4:09 AM

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Depends on your current pc specs

narrow canyon Dec 26, 2022, 4:09 AM

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1660 super ryzen 5

cursive epoch Dec 26, 2022, 4:09 AM

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Yep

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That needs more ram

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Upgrade to at least 16 and you'll have better experience

narrow canyon Dec 26, 2022, 4:09 AM

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ok cool thanks

cursive epoch Dec 26, 2022, 4:10 AM

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A typical 3200 mhz kit is around 40-50 bucks assuming you're in the US

narrow canyon Dec 26, 2022, 4:11 AM

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i dont know if i can put links in here but i found 2x16gb ddr4 3200

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for 100

cursive epoch Dec 26, 2022, 4:11 AM

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Oof, that's expensive

narrow canyon Dec 26, 2022, 4:11 AM

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is having 2x8 different than 1x16

cursive epoch Dec 26, 2022, 4:12 AM

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Yeah

narrow canyon Dec 26, 2022, 4:12 AM

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what's better

cursive epoch Dec 26, 2022, 4:12 AM

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Dual channel is better than single

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So 2x8

narrow canyon Dec 26, 2022, 4:13 AM

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i found 2x8 3200 for 47, better?

cursive epoch Dec 26, 2022, 4:13 AM

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https://pcpartpicker.com/product/z3VD4D/team-t-force-vulcan-z-16-gb-2-x-8-gb-ddr4-3200-memory-tlzgd416g3200hc16cdc01

TEAMGROUP T-Force Vulcan Z 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 CL16 Memory (...

TEAMGROUP T-Force Vulcan Z 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 CL16 Memory (TLZGD416G3200HC16CDC01)

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I would get these

narrow canyon Dec 26, 2022, 4:13 AM

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that's exactly what i just found on amazon i think

cursive epoch Dec 26, 2022, 4:13 AM

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Newegg has it cheaper

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It's 44.99

narrow canyon Dec 26, 2022, 4:14 AM

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how's delivery with newegg, i've actually never used it

cursive epoch Dec 26, 2022, 4:14 AM

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It's normal really, nothing different

narrow canyon Dec 26, 2022, 4:16 AM

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ok, and if i already have a 16gb stick, is there a pattern i'd need to follow when putting them in? i've heard putting them not right next to each other if there's 2, no idea about 3

cursive epoch Dec 26, 2022, 4:16 AM

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I would just remove current ram and put new ones in

grizzled bloom Dec 26, 2022, 4:16 AM

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Use slots 2 and 4, it might not work at all mixing kits

cursive epoch Dec 26, 2022, 4:17 AM

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Depending on boards you might have to do 1 and 3, but most of the times it's 2 and 4 like falcie mentioned

narrow canyon Dec 26, 2022, 4:18 AM

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wait i can't use my hyperx 16gb with another brand?

grizzled bloom Dec 26, 2022, 4:18 AM

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Wait 3 sticks? Do 16gb in slot 2, 4gb in slot 3 and 4, maybe it'll work maybe it won't

cursive epoch Dec 26, 2022, 4:18 AM

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^

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If it works it'll run semi dual channel

grizzled bloom Dec 26, 2022, 4:18 AM

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It almost certainly won't run xmp

cursive epoch Dec 26, 2022, 4:18 AM

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Where the 2x8 half is dual, and the 1x16 will be single

grizzled bloom Dec 26, 2022, 4:18 AM

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And you'll need to do manual tuning

cursive epoch Dec 26, 2022, 4:19 AM

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For a pc like that 32 gigs is wasted imo

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Especially sacrificing stability

narrow canyon Dec 26, 2022, 4:19 AM

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some words were used that i dont know, but what should i do instead?

cursive epoch Dec 26, 2022, 4:19 AM

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Would suggest using the new kit on their own only

grizzled bloom Dec 26, 2022, 4:19 AM

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cursive epoch For a pc like that 32 gigs is wasted imo

If he has 8gb right now and 2 sticks that means 4gb sticks

cursive epoch Dec 26, 2022, 4:19 AM

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Oh right

narrow canyon Dec 26, 2022, 4:20 AM

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no, i have a 16gb as we speak, but was gonna get the 2x8

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16x1

cursive epoch Dec 26, 2022, 4:20 AM

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ah

grizzled bloom Dec 26, 2022, 4:20 AM

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Ah I see, odd setup and again it may or may not work at all

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You can try and cross your fingers, do 16gb in slot 2 and 8gb in slot 3 and 4

narrow canyon Dec 26, 2022, 4:21 AM

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well i got a pre and it came with a 1x16, just wanting to get more ram

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could i get the exact same stick?

grizzled bloom Dec 26, 2022, 4:21 AM

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2x16gb isn't too expensive right now\

narrow canyon Dec 26, 2022, 4:21 AM

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i have a 1660 super and an amd 5 is that too much ram

grizzled bloom Dec 26, 2022, 4:22 AM

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It's not too much until you get to 64gb

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But a simple 2x8gb kit is plenty

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Which ryzen 5? There's like a dozen of them

narrow canyon Dec 26, 2022, 4:22 AM

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one sec

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"AMD Ryzen 5 5600G with Radeon Graphics"

grizzled bloom Dec 26, 2022, 4:23 AM

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Ooh that one LOVES fast memory

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https://pcpartpicker.com/product/TtfnTW/team-t-force-vulcan-z-16-gb-2-x-8-gb-ddr4-4000-cl18-memory-tlzgd416g4000hc18jdc01

TEAMGROUP T-Force Vulcan Z 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-4000 CL18 Memory (...

TEAMGROUP T-Force Vulcan Z 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-4000 CL18 Memory (TLZGD416G4000HC18JDC01)

narrow canyon Dec 26, 2022, 4:25 AM

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how can i tell if that would work with my current stick

grizzled bloom Dec 26, 2022, 4:26 AM

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It's a roll of the dice if it'll work but if it's from a prebuilt then it's unlikely the current one is good enough to run that speed

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Even if it doesn't then 2x8gb is plenty for most 1080p games

narrow canyon Dec 26, 2022, 4:26 AM

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wait, i just realized, i have a 1x8

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not 16

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does this change anything

grizzled bloom Dec 26, 2022, 4:26 AM

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nope

narrow canyon Dec 26, 2022, 4:27 AM

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ok, it's still 3200 though

grizzled bloom Dec 26, 2022, 4:27 AM

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That's pretty low for a 5000g series

narrow canyon Dec 26, 2022, 4:27 AM

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the mhz?

grizzled bloom Dec 26, 2022, 4:27 AM

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It's unlikely your current stick could do more than 3600 c18 at best

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And that's with overclocking and tuning

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But the 5600g can pretty easily run 4000+

narrow canyon Dec 26, 2022, 4:28 AM

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i have this Omen gaming hub thing and it says my ram can get 3467 MT/s

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with overclock

grizzled bloom Dec 26, 2022, 4:29 AM

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Right, sounds about right for mid bin c-die

narrow canyon Dec 26, 2022, 4:29 AM

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what does a mhz difference do

grizzled bloom Dec 26, 2022, 4:30 AM

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It controls the frequency at which commands can be executed and how fast data is read and written

narrow canyon Dec 26, 2022, 4:30 AM

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what about size difference

grizzled bloom Dec 26, 2022, 4:32 AM

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More memory means more room to store data for computations

narrow canyon Dec 26, 2022, 4:33 AM

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ok, but with a 1660 super and ryzen 5 5600G i should get that link you sent? or at least 4000 mhz

grizzled bloom Dec 26, 2022, 4:34 AM

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The one I sent is the cheapest decent kit at 4000+ that'll help get the most out of your processor

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And you shouldn't need to do more than just enable xmp to run it

narrow canyon Dec 26, 2022, 4:35 AM

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whats xmp

grizzled bloom Dec 26, 2022, 4:35 AM

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Technically speaking it's Intel eXtreme Memory Profile

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AMD just uses the stored data to set it's own settings

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It's the speed/timings that a kit is tested to be working at

narrow canyon Dec 26, 2022, 4:36 AM

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ok, so if i get more ram, do i have to do anything but put them in?

grizzled bloom Dec 26, 2022, 4:38 AM

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enable xmp in bios

narrow canyon Dec 26, 2022, 4:39 AM

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ok, last thing and you may have answered this, but what would be the most optimal amount, how much memory should i get

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with 4000mhz

grizzled bloom Dec 26, 2022, 4:39 AM

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If you're looking for optimal 2x16gb

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But most games don't need that so you'll see only a couple % difference between that and 2x8gb

narrow canyon Dec 26, 2022, 4:41 AM

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ok, i have 1080p 75 hz monitors, all i'd maybe change is to 1440p higher hz but not anything crazy

grizzled bloom Dec 26, 2022, 4:41 AM

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At 1080p you definitely won't need more than 16gb total

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1440p a couple of games can use 32gb

narrow canyon Dec 26, 2022, 4:41 AM

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ok thanks

grizzled bloom Dec 26, 2022, 4:42 AM

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If you did end up going the 32gb route https://pcpartpicker.com/product/dqbTwP/gskill-ripjaws-v-32-gb-2-x-16-gb-ddr4-4000-cl18-memory-f4-4000c18d-32gvk

G.Skill Ripjaws V 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-4000 CL18 Memory (F4-4000C...

G.Skill Ripjaws V 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-4000 CL18 Memory (F4-4000C18D-32GVK)

narrow canyon Dec 26, 2022, 4:43 AM

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i think i'll just get 2x16 4000mhz

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are prices around $100 for that? or am i looking in the wrong place

grizzled bloom Dec 26, 2022, 4:45 AM

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For 32gb (2x16gb)? Yeah that's about $100

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The one I just linked is $105

narrow canyon Dec 26, 2022, 4:46 AM

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ok thanks

rigid condor Dec 26, 2022, 5:35 AM

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So I’m looking for another 2 sticks of ram my current ram is 6000mhz and timing of 36-36-36-76 but I can’t find anything else in stock will 36-36-36-96 work? I know ram shouldn’t be mixed but maybe I’m wrong and does alder lake still have xmp ddr5 problem when all 4 slots are filled?

wheat salmon Dec 26, 2022, 5:50 AM

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Xmp problem when all 4 slots are filled on a dual channel cpu has been around since at least DDR2

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Best way to confirm what speeds work when 4 sticks are installed is to go to the manufacturers motherboard page

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Different ram timings will work but will result in the computer taking the looser timings unless you manually overclock and adjust the timings in bios

grizzled bloom Dec 26, 2022, 6:18 AM

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rigid condor So I’m looking for another 2 sticks of ram my current ram is 6000mhz and timing ...

B660 and Z690 still cannot run 4 sticks at that speed without some serious tuning

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And even then it's hit or miss if the board can even do it

versed elk Dec 26, 2022, 7:14 AM

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Can someone please explain to me the differences in gigabytes z690 aorus boards? It looks like the all have identical I/O.

grizzled bloom Dec 26, 2022, 7:15 AM

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Are you looking at ATX or mATX?

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Also DDR4 or DDR5?

versed elk Dec 26, 2022, 7:21 AM

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Atx ddr4

grizzled bloom Dec 26, 2022, 7:24 AM

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So we're comparing these boards? https://pcpartpicker.com/products/compare/HxkWGX,pgKKHx,gsPQzy/

Gigabyte Z690 AORUS PRO DDR4 ATX LGA1700 Motherboard vs. Gigabyte Z...

Gigabyte Z690 AORUS PRO DDR4 ATX LGA1700 Motherboard vs. Gigabyte Z690 AORUS ELITE AX DDR4 ATX LGA1700 Motherboard vs. Gigabyte Z690 AORUS ELITE DDR4 ATX LGA1700 Motherboard

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Two have wifi one doesn't, and one has higher official memory speeds for overclockers among other enthusiast features

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The base specs are otherwise identical yes

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Oh and one has 2 more usb ports instead of a hdmi port

versed elk Dec 26, 2022, 7:29 AM

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Looking to build a 13600k video editing rig. Trying to spend $200 or less on mobo. Looking at either an aorus board or Asrock z690 extreme.

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I'm thinking the Asrock is the better buy

grizzled bloom Dec 26, 2022, 7:33 AM

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Do you need the wifi?

versed elk Dec 26, 2022, 7:34 AM

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Yes

grizzled bloom Dec 26, 2022, 7:35 AM

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https://pcpartpicker.com/product/LWPQzy/msi-pro-z690-a-wifi-ddr4-atx-lga1700-motherboard-pro-z690-a-wifi-ddr4

MSI PRO Z690-A WIFI DDR4 ATX LGA1700 Motherboard (PRO Z690-A WIFI D...

MSI PRO Z690-A WIFI DDR4 ATX LGA1700 Motherboard (PRO Z690-A WIFI DDR4)

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Or https://pcpartpicker.com/product/m9Fbt6/asrock-z690-steel-legend-wifi-6e-atx-lga1700-motherboard-z690-steel-legend-wifi-6e

ASRock Z690 Steel Legend WiFi 6E ATX LGA1700 Motherboard (Z690 Stee...

ASRock Z690 Steel Legend WiFi 6E ATX LGA1700 Motherboard (Z690 Steel Legend WiFi 6E)

versed elk Dec 26, 2022, 7:41 AM

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https://pcpartpicker.com/product/mcmmP6/asrock-z690-extreme-wifi-6e-atx-lga1700-motherboard-z690-extreme-wifi-6e

ASRock Z690 Extreme WiFi 6E ATX LGA1700 Motherboard (Z690 EXTREME W...

ASRock Z690 Extreme WiFi 6E ATX LGA1700 Motherboard (Z690 EXTREME WiFi 6E)

grizzled bloom Dec 26, 2022, 7:41 AM

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Yeah that would work too

versed elk Dec 26, 2022, 7:42 AM

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Yeah I've seen those. For a little bit more this has better audio and two type c ports

grizzled bloom Dec 26, 2022, 7:43 AM

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If those are important features to you then go for it

dull flint Dec 26, 2022, 7:51 AM

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@versed elk look up asrock z690 pro rs

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Erp nvm, it's no longer 140$

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kekw

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Ooo this works too
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/kYwypg/asrock-z690-pg-riptide-atx-lga1700-motherboard-z690-pg-riptide

ASRock Z690 PG Riptide ATX LGA1700 Motherboard (Z690 PG Riptide) - ...

ASRock Z690 PG Riptide ATX LGA1700 Motherboard (Z690 PG Riptide)

versed elk Dec 26, 2022, 8:04 AM

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How is ASrock as a brand? I've never used any of their stuff.

grizzled bloom Dec 26, 2022, 8:05 AM

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Their high end motherboards are good but the low end is trash. GPUs are ok in general.

sharp flume Dec 26, 2022, 3:07 PM

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Ok, I am looking at am turning my build into a itx build in the lian li q58 case. For a motherboard my choices have lead to the asus rog strix b550-I. Looks good and everything but I am slightly hesitant because my fiend just got an asus board and has had several issues.

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Looking for recommendations for itx boards with wifi (just in case), usb c, and around $200

dull flint Dec 26, 2022, 3:10 PM

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Do you already own the am4 chip?

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Ah you know what, I see it

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kek

sharp flume Dec 26, 2022, 3:11 PM

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Yes. I am putting my current gpu, cpu, and ram in the itx build.

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lol all good

dull flint Dec 26, 2022, 3:12 PM

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Yeah b550i is a bit extreme

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It's probably one of if not the best itx am4 tho

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Despite asus issues

sharp flume Dec 26, 2022, 3:13 PM

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I figured it would be but I do want to have the upgradeability for the future

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i am using the tomohawk max b450 right now.

dull flint Dec 26, 2022, 3:15 PM

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https://pcpartpicker.com/product/kbx2FT/asus-rog-strix-b450-i-gaming-mini-itx-am4-motherboard-strix-b450-i-gaming

Asus ROG Strix B450-I Gaming Mini ITX AM4 Motherboard (Strix B450-I...

Asus ROG Strix B450-I Gaming Mini ITX AM4 Motherboard (Strix B450-I Gaming)

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MonakHmmm

sharp flume Dec 26, 2022, 3:16 PM

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how common are the asus issues? Thats is my main concern.

burnt spear Dec 26, 2022, 3:16 PM

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buying based off of brand is pointless

sharp flume Dec 26, 2022, 3:17 PM

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Looks good but I am looking for usb c on the back

dull flint Dec 26, 2022, 3:17 PM

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Actually nvm

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Vrm meh

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B450i is a pass

sharp flume Dec 26, 2022, 3:17 PM

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burnt spear buying based off of brand is pointless

Im not buying off brand. the assus just keeps popping up in what I am looking for

burnt spear Dec 26, 2022, 3:18 PM

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can also use a usb c to usb a adapter

sharp flume Dec 26, 2022, 3:19 PM

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could weggCringe

dull flint Dec 26, 2022, 3:21 PM

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https://pcpartpicker.com/product/ftdrxr/asrock-b550-phantom-gaming-itxax-mini-itx-am4-motherboard-b550-phantom-gaming-itxax

ASRock B550 Phantom Gaming-ITX/ax Mini ITX AM4 Motherboard (B550 Ph...

ASRock B550 Phantom Gaming-ITX/ax Mini ITX AM4 Motherboard (B550 Phantom Gaming-ITX/ax)

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Probably the most reasonable itx choice

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6x90A vrm so should be alright

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Granted asrock has it's own weirdness but still, if you're looking to save over the strix b550i this would probably be it

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Otherwise I'd invest in a z690 aorus lite and a 12600K/KF

hollow thorn Dec 26, 2022, 3:22 PM

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There's the b550 issues but other than that no brand really has big issues

sharp flume Dec 26, 2022, 3:26 PM

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Ok. Im not looking to buy for a entire new pc just enough to get it to an itx.

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Thanks for the input guys!

dull flint Dec 26, 2022, 3:28 PM

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Np, I wouldn't really go cheaper than that board above

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The two cheaper b450's below it take a big hit on vrm capabilities

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Which matter for itx

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Especially in a tightly packed case, less likely to have good airflow to make it run less hot as a board

brazen forge Dec 26, 2022, 4:09 PM

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Will a Gigabyte B560 motherboard work with a intel i9 11900kf?

hollow thorn Dec 26, 2022, 4:12 PM

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Theorhetically compatible, but might not be recommended depending on the board