cpus-mobo-and-memory

[dull flint]

Don't be lazy

Stop them rolling

[bronze summit]

Bruh

[hard leaf]

rolling

hahahahaha

how? just how?

[long geyser]

Balance them to stand
they cant roll then

[bronze summit]

Wait nevermind I'm dumb

[dull flint]

Put them on a tissue even better

[hard leaf]

thats why we love you

[dull flint]

Stops rolling

[bronze summit]

The last one is on my aio

[long geyser]

Put them in a small 50kg metal box that cannot be closed.
Cant lose stuff in the box cuz it small
Cant lose/spill the box cuz it too heavy to move
Cant lose access to the box cuz no door

[bronze summit]

I don't have small box

Also I have everything but 1 spring

[dull flint]

Better yet work with glue on hands

It'll stick to you when you forget

The spring is somewhere in the damn room

I promise

Look on the ground

Under your desk or bed or wherever

[hard leaf]

we lost direction on this project.... wth was he trying to do in the frist place?

[dull flint]

Around the case

Under heatsinks

[long geyser]

Nah, just buy like 20L of glue and dump it on everything.

[bronze summit]

I found the sping

[dull flint]

Yay

[long geyser]

bruh

[dull flint]

See? Still in the room

[bronze summit]

It's just chilling as I lifted up my pc

[hard leaf]

now now, what about getting the contact frame?

[grizzled bloom]

13600K isn't running memory at xmp but 12100 did on the same board, so kenzie is swapping back and getting a new cpu, and in the process it was pointed out that the cpu mount is godawful thanks to LGA1700, so here we are

[long geyser]

So long as the door is considered a pathway to an extension of the room, the entire world is part of the room

[hollow thorn]

But what about closed door

[hard leaf]

https://tenor.com/view/mind-blown-gif-11131691

[bronze summit]

The braket looks fine

[long geyser]

Then the world is considered the room, and the room is the world

[hollow thorn]

That's deep

[dull flint]

https://www.ebay.com/itm/314224892320

@bronze summit

I picked a us seller so you wouldn't have to wait

[long geyser]

If the CPU mount is the issue why are we trying to get the cooler mount off?

[bronze summit]

@dull flint the one screw still into it was making it unbalanced and I was not able to screw it in but now that I forced the left side to straight I can now

[dull flint]

Ok

[bronze summit]

No no cpu issue

[dull flint]

I don't understand what you said but ok great, it works now

[grizzled bloom]

Because the cooler wouldn't go back on

[dull flint]

Lol

[bronze summit]

It's on now

[bronze summit]

What is this

[dull flint]

[bronze summit]

Wait

Ik what it is

[long geyser]

Something that fixes Intel's BS

[dull flint]

Did you watch this??

[bronze summit]

I mean how does it fix

[dull flint]

Watch the video

It mounts the cpu with even pressure

Versus the garbage lga 1700 that mounts it 2 sides only

[hard leaf]

[bronze summit]

No I'm trying to get cpu cooler back on

[grizzled bloom]

I'll give you the short version: Intel's ILM is crap. It fixes it.

[bronze summit]

My poor desk

[dull flint]

I

OMG

TAKE IT OFF

TAKE IT OFF TAKE IT OFF TAKE IT OFF

[bronze summit]

No I want it on desk

[dull flint]

[long geyser]

Trying picking up a wet spaghetti noodle with only two fingers. It will droop
Now try with 40 fingers. It wont droop pretty much at all.

That is what uneven vs even pressure does to something that can bend.

[grizzled bloom]

That is physically painful to look at

[dull flint]

You're ruining your desk!!!

Stop moving the pc

[bronze summit]

Well we should have just went with 011 mini and the feet could have stayed on pc case

[dull flint]

Take it off the desk

[dull flint]

you chose focus 2

[bronze summit]

I asked for VOTES

[dull flint]

I gave you mini as an option

[bronze summit]

PEOPLE VOTED FOCUS 2

[grizzled bloom]

Another thing that tape could fix if you had it. A little on the bottom of the case feet, no more scratching.

[dull flint]

Omg

[bronze summit]

Oh I didn't think about that

[hard leaf]

that is painful to watch

[long geyser]

At this point it'd be better to scrape the desk more, make it even. Scrape off the entire first layer with the PC.

[dull flint]

The desk

Omg the desk

[bronze summit]

Or

[dull flint]

[bronze summit]

I just buy LTT desk mat

[grizzled bloom]

Yes, sand the desk. No more problem.

[long geyser]

Let me make it clear that the desk must be sanded using the PC

[hard leaf]

sand your desk with the pc plz

and record it

[dull flint]

Such a nice wooden finish scratched up by a pc

[bronze summit]

Okay now where did I lay the thermal paste

[dull flint]

Aaaaaa-

[dull flint]

MOVE THE PC OFF THE DESK

[long geyser]

In the mobo like the cooler spring?

[bronze summit]

No

[bronze summit]

Hahaha

FOUND IT

[long geyser]

We are so far gone I already forgot that it was the spring that got lost, not the standoff

[bronze summit]

Good

[dull flint]

The desk

No

More paste

Spread it

[hard leaf]

too much paste

[bronze summit]

No this is i3

It's so cold

[hard leaf]

[long geyser]

Is this a temporary test?

[bronze summit]

Yes

[long geyser]

Then that is fine

but if you were setting this up as main CPU, use more

[hard leaf]

he will use it until the rma brings back the 13600k, so it should use more

[bronze summit]

I'm not rma

[hard leaf]

so are you going to test the sticks only?

[bronze summit]

I'm still in microcenter 15 day return policy

@dull flint do you have OCD

[dull flint]

You give me ocd moments kenzie

[bronze summit]

You like my pipes

[dull flint]

I'm rarely ever actually ocd

Just neat

[dull flint]

I do, signals the end of a tale

I can't believe the desk though

[bronze summit]

Haha I'm little upset

But we can just put carpet over it

[dull flint]

You can't fix that

[bronze summit]

You know like when there's a hole in wall they just put picture inf front of it haha

Okay moment of truth

[dull flint]

It was a nice wooden finish

All ruined

[bronze summit]

Oops

[dull flint]

Worth as much as the pc probably

Considering the size

[hard leaf]

[bronze summit]

It was free

[grizzled bloom]

Put carpet... on the desk? That completely defeats the purpose of putting it on the desk

[bronze summit]

[hard leaf]

https://tenor.com/view/michael-scott-thats-what-she-said-he-said-gif-25165146

[dull flint]

https://tenor.com/view/thats-what-she-said-what-she-said-dirty-joke-joke-laugh-gif-15661968

More like

[long geyser]

No, but the carpet on the PC, and the PC on the desk

[bronze summit]

I'm getting scared

[grizzled bloom]

What's the worst that happens? It's already broken this is just to narrow down the cause

[bronze summit]

So ig no need to return cpu

[bronze summit]

I think I broke the ram it was 50C in my o11 pc case

[long geyser]

Why are your sticks in A1?

[bronze summit]

Bc Felix said too

[dull flint]

We swapped them to test them in the other slot

Don't just bloody say I said so reeeee

[bronze summit]

I bloody will

[dull flint]

[bronze summit]

You said to so YEEEEEET

[dull flint]

So the 13600k isn't broken

Time to rma ram

[bronze summit]

Let me switch ram slots

[long geyser]

I mean 12100 hasnt really been tested. You confirmed it doesnt work using the incorrect config

but not the correct config, for the 12100

[dull flint]

Eh

[bronze summit]

It has

I was using cpu like 3 days ago

[dull flint]

It's still dual channel?

[bronze summit]

But what I can say is ram worked in 2A

[dull flint]

I mean alr

Change ram slots back anyway cos it's better

[bronze summit]

I did

I'm depressed

Dumb ram

Let's go buy new kit

[dull flint]

Why

Just rma it

And wait

[bronze summit]

It's broken

G.skill just bad

[dull flint]

You have a lifetime warranty just claim the warranty

[bronze summit]

Fine

[dull flint]

Free replacement for expensive sticks

[bronze summit]

I'll rma momday

Bc business day

@dull flint why you break my ram for

[dull flint]

I didn't do jack

You gonna blame me for the desk too?

[bronze summit]

I beat you came into my room while I was working and sabotage it I bet you ran 10000mhz at 2v on my ram

[dull flint]

Man

I swam all the way over the pacific to do it too

You never saw it coming

[bronze summit]

[grizzled bloom]

Just flew in and boy are your arms tired

[bronze summit]

@dull flint sad no road trip to microcenter

[winged widget]

Should I get a 13600k or 5800x3d for gaming?

[vast meadow]

13600k

[compact zenith]

Went to buy another build last night, and I seriously messed up my card that pays 8% back. I inadvertently typed in -2k and system approved it, dropping card to $0 limit. Never mess with a bank card until you had plenty of ☕😋

[potent dew]

Would it be worth update the BIOS on my B450 Aorus Elite? I'm running F32 (I think) and the newest is F64c. I see that SAM is in one of those updates, is that worth updating to get with a 2700X and a 2070 Super?

[vast meadow]

you cant use sam anyway

[potent dew]

Didn't think so

[bronze summit]

Bruh

[hard leaf]

SAM is a feature for 3000/5000 cpus, 2000 series cant use SAM

[hollow knot]

so sam boost is like what 10 to 15 percent better performance than without sam?

[vast meadow]

it depends on the game tbh

[hard leaf]

depends on the application

[hollow knot]

i meant on average

[hard leaf]

some games are worst with sam, much like rebar

[dull flint]

On average it's barely better

Rebar makes total sense on Arc tho

[hard leaf]

sadly

[dull flint]

Sadly? They're actually leveraging it

I think that's good

[hard leaf]

sadly because pcs without rebar cant ride an arc gpu

that limits the target audience

[hollow knot]

quick question after i install os on my system should i install all updates and drivers os, chipset and gpu then oc the ram?

[dull flint]

True

[hard leaf]

yes

wait, no

[dull flint]

But on the other hand you have one company actually using it versus two others who just flipped a switch

[hard leaf]

you can oc the ram before any of those things... well it doenst matter when you do it anyway

[dull flint]

Make a backup clone of your windows

Then ram, cpu, gpu

[hard leaf]

thing is xmp is the safe oc, if you are going to manually play with the timings, yeah clone windows

[hollow knot]

@hard leaf this is my first build im just wondering. i saw people on youtube say do everything first then oc ram

[hard leaf]

oc can corrupt your windows easily

[hard leaf]

depend on the type of oc... xmp or manual tuning?

[hollow knot]

thought xmp is basically same on amd and intel right? if so then xmp

[hard leaf]

then nah, you can pretty much xmp/docp right before anything else

xmp on amd is called docp, or expo on am5

[hollow knot]

so just enable xmp/docp then im done right?

[hard leaf]

pretty much, yes

[hollow knot]

i could check if it works via task manager right?

[hard leaf]

yes

[hollow knot]

my last piece im missing is my mobo which will arrive tomorrow on my bday. im gonna rip out my old rx560 2gb and put in the new pc until i could get either 6800xt/6900xt

[vast meadow]

its only called docp on asus boards cuz they dont wanna pay the small fine for using the term xmp

[hollow knot]

i got a gigabyte elite board

[vast meadow]

also you should enable precision boost overdrive (PBO) if you have an amd cpu

[hollow knot]

what does it do. have a 5600

[vast meadow]

its basically more aggressive boosting that would be better than an overclock

and it does it automatically but its also not static

its really cool

[hollow knot]

i really not that familiar with oc the cpu. i have never done that b4

@vast meadow will it hurt the cpu?

[hard leaf]

its like an xmp for the processor

no

[vast meadow]

nope

[hollow knot]

i will probably just install my games on new pc but not play them until i get new gpu

[hard leaf]

you do you i guess

[hollow knot]

so xmp the ram and pbo the cpu.

[hard leaf]

👍

[hollow knot]

do i need to go 2 advanced settings?

[vast meadow]

for xmp no for pbo probably

[hard leaf]

should be pretty visible anyway

just a enable/disable switch

[hollow knot]

also i use a wireless keyboard and mouse combo will i have issues getting into bios with it?

im a controller player even on pc

[hard leaf]

you shouldnt have any problems

most bios these days can load wireless functionality as soon as you turn on the pc

[hollow knot]

im on a 7 year old pc. it doesnt

[hard leaf]

well get a cheap keyboard and mouse for situation like that

5 bucks should do the trick

[vast meadow]

or you can just enter bios from windows

[hard leaf]

or you can upgrade your bios as well

[hollow knot]

also do i also need to setup the boot drive b4 i install os i have a nvme and a hdd which i will use 4 my anime, movies and tv series

[hard leaf]

you can decide that on the windows installation

[hollow knot]

k.

[hard leaf]

boots drive selection most of the time is cyclic, eventually it will hit a bootable os on one of your drives

[hollow knot]

i meant for a new pc build

[hard leaf]

same

it will cycle between optical divres, thumb drives, nvmes, satas, hdd..... eventually it will hit the usb stick with the installer

[hollow knot]

my bro knows how to do it but i want to learn from you guys thx a lot

[hard leaf]

and once you install windows it will cycle again, but if you remove the usb stick with the installer then it will boot from the drive containing windows instead

[hollow knot]

thx. i need to check mobo once it comes if it needs bios flashback with 5600

[hard leaf]

most likely

[hollow knot]

didnt 5600 come out in may

[hard leaf]

5600 is a pretty new cpu and most of the 450/550 mobos are on the shelves, probably with an old bios

[hollow knot]

im getting gigabyte elite b550 ax v2

[hard leaf]

the same applies

you could end with a brand new out of the factory mobo, or one stored for months

[hollow knot]

it all depends if mobo is a shelf one or not

[hard leaf]

yup

if you are lucky then no bios update needed, if not, well is not that hard to update bios

[hollow knot]

it will have sticker on mobo telling what bios it has installed right

[hard leaf]

on the box, yeah

[hollow knot]

it will come on my birthday tomorrow. if early enough my bro and i would build it together

[hard leaf]

👍

im pretty sure your bro can handle most of those issues by himself

according to the info you gave us in the past about him

[hollow knot]

thx

he never xmp or pbo since he only plays those games like age of empires etc

[clever mango]

For power for a 13600kf on my mobo do I just plug in an 8 or 12?

12= 8 plus a 4 just to clarify

[limber dragon]

8 is fine

[clever mango]

It does not need the 4 also?

I never had a mobo with more than an 8 pin so idk

[vast meadow]

nah it would be hard to even use enough wattage to warrant more than the 4+4 pin

[clever mango]

Alr

Ty

[grizzled bloom]

The extra 4 is only for stability when doing extreme overclocking

[clever mango]

Bro I just realized, how tf do I apply thermal paste to this thing. A line?

[hollow thorn]

X pattern tends to work well

[clever mango]

Alr ty

[livid kestrel]

Alright guys need some advice on a build, anyone up to help?

[upper aspen]

Just ask your questions and folks will be around to help you

[signal lake]

Anyone have a decent budget mid tower to reccomend? Transferring atx board w air cooler into it w a 1070

[vast meadow]

If you're in the us, fractal focus 2 is great and around 70%$

[signal lake]

Indeed I'm in the US. It's a build for my gf as I'm upgrading my full atx basically w brand new externals

She does want some sort of "pretty lights" too but one can always accomplish that with fans

In that focus is it two 140s in the front?

Here's a seperate question, do these mid towers necessitate an aio with how cramped they are?

I see most of the builds w an aio top mount

Or is my air cooler gonna be alright

There is these musetex cases, are they trash?

[bronze summit]

I agree its great

[signal lake]

That focus 2 is sexy though

I like it a lot more than crazy Chinese looking musetex with 6 120mm rbg fans in it

Another question, reasonably cheap aio to pair w that case for an 8600k?

[vast meadow]

Yes and there's rgb and non rgb options of it

Air cooler will be perfectly fine

[signal lake]

Yeah the one on Newegg has two rbg 140s in the front. Looks really slick with the tint

Gonna pick that up, great price.

[devout moth]

Hazyhex#6694 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

[cerulean parrot]

hey i was wondering if anyone knows why the motherboard lights wont turn on i have a STRIX B365-G

[grizzled bloom]

B365-G doesn't have built in rgb lights that I can tell, the B365-F that's full ATX does

[dull flint]

@grizzled bloom something happened while I installed the 4090, now a long way from 430W peak. I'm wondering if either the paste is buggered or the mount

It's now like, stopping short at like 330W

Something happened

Might turn the limiters off and see if I can still replicate it

[bronze summit]

[cedar kindle]

So I decide to bite the bullet and got a 3070. Anyone know a good CPU to pair it with so it won’t bottleneck?

[sudden creek]

An I5-12600K or I5-13600K would do you very well, a KF would also work well.

[cedar kindle]

There’s a pretty good deal on a R5-7600x compared to those (about $50-$70 cheaper). Do you think the extra saving are worth the slight performance decrease?

[sudden creek]

I haven't looked at the benchmarks for the 7600x so I can't say. Let me take a quick look.

Also remember, AM5 platform mobos are $$.

[cedar kindle]

Ya I forgot, they make you use DDR5 too, right?

[sudden creek]

Yes.

[cedar kindle]

Thanks for reminding me lol

[sudden creek]

Looking at it, I think you'd be much better off with a I5-13600K.

DDR4, cheaper mobos, and also more than 2x the core count and higher boost clocks.

6p+8e cores,.

versus 6p cores.

[cedar kindle]

Do you think the integrated graphics are worth an extra $15-$20 or should I got with the F version?

[sudden creek]

Also, I'd recommend a z690 mobo instead of a z790 unless your trying to make a very high end system with like DDR5 mem.

[sudden creek]

Depends on if you can make use of it with your creative work.

[vast meadow]

7600x is a pretty bad choice unless you get one for like honestly like 140$ because of very expensive motherboard and ddr5 costs, you could get a 13600k for cheaper

Or 12600k for even cheaper

Or 5600 even

[sudden creek]

@cedar kindle, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ucNewAZ8g4E

this will explain some things with the f part of the CPU for creative work.

Probably worth watching.

[cedar kindle]

Thanks, I appreciate all the help!

[sudden creek]

But yeah, I'd recommend like a 13600K or KF if you don't need the iGPU.

z690 mobo with ddr4.

[cedar kindle]

One final question, intel CPU’s like 2 sticks of RAM better than 4 right?

[burnt spear]

Imo ddr5 isn't super expensive anymore compared to the gains it offers, 6000c36 kit is $145 now consistently

[cedar kindle]

2x16 is better than 4x8?

[burnt spear]

Yes and no

I'd take 2x16 over 4x8 any day of the week though

[vast meadow]

Wait really?

[burnt spear]

Ye, some gskill kit

[vast meadow]

Never 4 sticks on ddr5

[burnt spear]

Oh it's ddr5

[sudden creek]

1dpc if your using DDR5.

[burnt spear]

Yeah never 4 sticks if you're going ddr5

Especially not 8gb sticks

[vast meadow]

Oh nice

[sudden creek]

😢 darn MX.

Costing me a heavy $$ on everything.

@cedar kindle, I5-13600K, DDR4 2x16gb, and a z690 mobo should do you pretty well.

[cedar kindle]

Many thanks to all of you 🙏

[sudden creek]

Good luck with your build, and remember to have fun!

[shy wyvern]

My friend heard that faster and more memory speed was good so he upgraded his 2x8GB sticks (2400 cl14) to 1 x 32 (3800 cl18) and was telling me how his computer was running slower and I've never face desked so fast in my life

[burnt spear]

Face desked lol

I like that

[shy wyvern]

I felt defeated

[burnt spear]

But also

[shy wyvern]

Told him a 2 engine plane with 1 faster engine and missing the second engine will always be worse than having 2 slower engines

[sudden creek]

[shy wyvern]

My best analogy for dual channel ram

[burnt spear]

That's a good analogy

[grizzled bloom]

That's actually perfect lol

[sudden creek]

Are there any mobos that can even handle 4x32gb DDR5 sticks?

[shy wyvern]

Trying to explain things in non tech terms to technologically inept friends and family is always fun

My z690 can barely run 4x ddr4 tbh

[grizzled bloom]

The issue is more that having 4 sticks of anything on Z690 limits you to about 4400

Z790 is a bit better

https://youtu.be/SWSfA5b41Kc

Average users could get 6200 prob

[hardy sage]

Im looking to streaming on my pc. and I need a new cpu. Current pc is I7-8700, RTX 2080 Super, and 16gb of ram (ddr4 3200 mhz)

What should I upgrade to maximize performance for streaming and gaming at the same time

(willing to upgrade anything other than the gpu, and if possible please provide a middle of the road upgrade and the best upgrade)

thank you!

[mild jackal]

Totally fine on am5

[shy wyvern]

Have you tried to stream on your current setup and confirmed you're CPU bottlenecked?

If streaming using nvenc I don't think you'd actually really be CPU bound with the CPU, streaming would have very little effect on the CPU if using GPU encoding

[vast meadow]

Still worse and more expensive than 2 sticks no?

[mild jackal]

Probably more expensive most of the time, but shouldn't perform differently

[vast meadow]

Depends on your budget but I'd probably recommend a 13600k and 32gb of ram , make sure you're using the nvenc encoder while streaming too
Also make sure xmp is on

[mild jackal]

Normies will be happy with 6000 c32 or whatever xmp on those boards

[vast meadow]

Ah okay that's good

[mild jackal]

I'm about to switch my daily to 4x16 m-die and a 7950x

[vast meadow]

How come not 13900k?

[mild jackal]

Don't own one yet, much less a bin reject

And I don't really game anymore

If I did it'd be ark or something lol

Sadly that means I have to go back to yet another gigabyte board for the daily as I use the gene for benching https://hwbot.org/submission/5132773_

And I want more pcie/nvme anyway

[vast meadow]

Yeah but 13900k wind in a lot of mt tasks too right?

[mild jackal]

If I had a bin reject 13900k and z790 that I'd be happy with laying around instead of these, that's what I'd be using

[vast meadow]

Ah right

Also gigabyte boards are great wdym smh

[hardy sage]

Ty

[vast meadow]

No problem

[pure moss]

So I'm trying to use the flash bios button on my msi pro 690-a ddr4. All the guides I've seen say the light should flash for several minutes. Mine flashes for about 10 seconds and then stays solid until I turn off my psu. Anyone know what it could be?

[burnt spear]

Did you name the file on the USB correctly

And did you unzip it

[pure moss]

I unzipped, then removed the file from the folder... I did not put the folder on the usb drive

named it MSI.ROM

I figured it out, I just googled MSI Pro Z690-A bios driver and downloaded the first one on the MSI website, there are apparently 4 versions of this motherboard, and I got the wrong one. It's working now that I have the correct one

Thank you anyways though!

[devout moth]

Qbo#4182 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

[naive pendant]

is the 5500 okay?

[amber canopy]

in what context lol

[naive pendant]

wdym

[dull flint]

5500 ryzen?

[naive pendant]

yes

[dull flint]

Definitely worth saving the extra and putting it into a 5600

The difference is pretty huge

For like what, $27?

It's worth doing

[naive pendant]

I certainly probably wont be getting anymore money at all

and the 5500 is 81$ rn

[dull flint]

And a 5600 is like 125?

Heck I'd take up some handy work for $45

Or sell something

5500 iirc is more like a 3600

Fair bit of a step down from a 5600

Or try and find a 5600/5600X used for 80-ish

[naive pendant]

have 30$ in amazon gift cards

[naive pendant]

anythings an upgrade when you have a 3000G 🤷‍♀️

[naive pendant]

which is a very moderate step up to me.

[dull flint]

You don't have to ping 3 times lmao

I mean if you can justify then ok

A 3600 is getting pretty old tho, while a 5600 is still quite relevant

Yeah you get half the L3 cache with a 5500

That's a big drop

[hard leaf]

Getting a 5500 is just wasting money rn

Not an upgrade from your 3000g... more like a sidegrade

[shy wyvern]

Microcenter has 12700 + z690 board for $370 right now...

12600k + z690 for $300

Insanely good deals

[vast meadow]

The 12600k is decent the 12700 one not as much tbh

[shy wyvern]

12600k for $300 with motherboard is pretty decent value, especially with a $240 6650XT

[dull flint]

@grizzled bloom I think I figured out what was wrong with the alphacool subzero

It's only been on there for a short time, it's dry.

Not sure if bad sample

Going back to NT-H2 💀

[vast meadow]

F

[dull flint]

It reminds me of like

First delidding a laptop from the factory for a repaste?

Maybe a gpu?

Where it's just, so dry and a bit lumpy

It was on there for like 2 weeks

Maybe the heat transfer was too much for it? Confusion

[vast meadow]

Oof must be bad batch

[dull flint]

Ok my peak is now back to 390W

Still 40W short of where I was

I know direct die can peak 450W

NVM

426W JUST NOW

400W+ SUSTAINED

NT-H2 OP

I WILL DIE ON THIS HILL

It was so hot I had a whea error

https://tenor.com/view/sweaty-sweat-heat-hot-wipe-sweat-gif-17716050

OMG

OVER 1.3v ooo ok

That was fun flipping the switches back

Degradation alert

[bronze summit]

101c that's cold come on now

300F on cpu or bust

@granite river come here

430W go brrrr

[granite river]

hell nah

thats like welding machine

[bronze summit]

[granite river]

a 500w speaker at max volume

[bronze summit]

Hahahaha

My whole computer is 500W

[lyric turret]

wwelp

[merry wolf]

Can u bios update every motherboard without cpu amd montior

[cursive epoch]

No

Only works on boards with bios flashback

[amber canopy]

ch341a moment

[cursive epoch]

requires another pc for that tho

but nothing a cheap laptop can't do

[limber dragon]

are you manually setting voltage, or is voltage still on auto?

[arctic tide]

planning on buying oloy 32gb ram on newegg, should i get 3200 cl16 or 3600 cl18?

for ryzen 5600

[burnt spear]

3600c18

[frosty depot]

What is good 2x8gb ddr4 sodimm?

[grizzled bloom]

Sodimm? Does the laptop (or miscellaneous device) support xmp?

[frosty depot]

Tbh, I have no idea

[grizzled bloom]

Most don't, it's even fairly rare on gaming laptops

[frosty depot]

Yeah it's a gaming laptop. He said it only supports up to 16gb. This is what he currently has.

[grizzled bloom]

If it's a relatively recent device that doesn't have xmp then 3200c22 is the best you can do. Buying faster is useless because it'll fall back to jedec.

[frosty depot]

I see. He has a Dell Inspiron with a 1050, so I'm not sure if you consider that relatively recent.

Like a 7000 series or something like that. I can't find the text for some reason.

[grizzled bloom]

If it's a 7th gen Intel then I wouldn't do more than 2666

Low end like that is definitely not going to have xmp

[dull flint]

Yeah manual. I turned the clocks up and I think it was adaptive just for that test but I've been using static and later I'll be trying a V/F curve to see if I can tease a bit more out of it EDIT: I'm stuck to 1.3V max rn

Unlikely it will tho, someone also told me to try an LLC with more vdroop

I went straight to 5/6 but I didn't try stock lol

[amber canopy]

Seriously? That sounds pretty low

Is it a locked chip or something

Oh laptop

[grizzled bloom]

Yep, low end so no xmp either

Plus older Intel so yes locked

[dull flint]

7th gen laptops do 2666 xmp yeah

I was able to dial mine up to like 2900 tho

Kekw

XTU ftw

[limber dragon]

if manual, then you're not doing 400w. CPU package power is just VID*current

[dull flint]

Wha

Then what was I doing?

Lol

[limber dragon]

whatever vcore*current is

which mobo?

[dull flint]

Unify x

[limber dragon]

||a lot less than cpu package power||

check POUT

[dull flint]

Is POUT the one I should be watching

[limber dragon]

yes

that's vrm output power

[dull flint]

Ah

[dark arch]

Hey everyone

[grizzled bloom]

Really far

Why lol

[bronze summit]

Just breathe in and out

I mean hey who else is gunna bring up x79 seems nobody else has it only person here is far

[dull flint]

Damn

Get burned by Kenzie

[brisk lion]

Help

It keeps doing this and i dont know why

[cursive epoch]

Looks like dead gpu

[devout moth]

Ch33ms#5635 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

[brisk lion]

Oops

Well it boots up

I just need a better gpu

Any cheap recommendationz(dont need anything special cuz its just a second pc meant to run some fun games and stream the rest 9f games it cant play)

[polar moth]

https://www.newegg.com/g-skill-16gb-288-pin-ddr4-sdram/p/N82E16820232530?Description=Model F4-3200C14D-16GFX&cm_re=Model_F4-3200C14D-16GFX-_-20-232-530-_-Product

Any thoughts on this one?

[cursive epoch]

What's your budget and region?

[brisk lion]

The netherlands budget like 50 buckz

also i have this problem in which the pc is connected to the internet via ethernet but it says unknown wifi

[cursive epoch]

ah um, well it's used gpu time

can probably get 1050

[brisk lion]

Okay

Thanks

[brisk lion]

Does somebody know how to fix ig

[inland marlin]

i have an i5 8400, 2060, and 32gb 3200mhz

Currently in the market to make an upgrade and i was wondering if the Ryzen 7 5700x would be a good choice for my build. (it’s on sale so it won’t break the bank)

and would the 5700g also be good?

[burnt spear]

5700g is a good bit worse than the x

5700g has worse gaming performance than the 5600

How much is the 5700x?

[vast meadow]

Extremely overpriced

[polar moth]

Ah? Really?

90 dollars for CL14 3200mhz 16gb ram set aint too bad compared to other prices on Amazon currently

[vast meadow]

Ah didn't notice it was b die but do you want to overclock your ram?

[polar moth]

No, all I want is 3200 or 3600 so my mobo can support it natively or with XMP

[vast meadow]

Then it's very overpriced for what you want

[burnt spear]

Getting b die is pointless if you're running xmp

You can get a 3200c16 32gb kit for $68

[vast meadow]

What cpu you got?

[burnt spear]

Or 3600c18 for $75

[polar moth]

i5-10400

[vast meadow]

What motherboard?

[burnt spear]

The lower latency doesn't really help you much

[polar moth]

So B-die is meant to overclock I see.

[burnt spear]

B die and Rev e are mainly bought to oc yeah

[polar moth]

Specs i5-10400, ASUS TUF B560M PLUS and RTX 3070Ti

[burnt spear]

For xmp with a 10400, just 3200c16 is what you'd want, though im sure patos about to link a kit

[vast meadow]

You upgrading from 8gb or something?

[polar moth]

Gotcha, I understand now. I'll forget about B die. thanks for the info on bdie

Upgrading from 3066mhz (actual clock 3000mhz cl16) 4x8gb ram

[vast meadow]

Not really any point

[burnt spear]

Not sure it's really worth upgrading from that

[vast meadow]

Just keep what you have

Would be a sidegrade at best

[polar moth]

You sure? 3200 and 3600mhz shows a bit increase in FPS

[vast meadow]

3200 vs 3000 is very small

[burnt spear]

Can b560 even support 3600mhz xmp with a 10400 pato?

Thought it capped at 3200

[devout moth]

Nether#5648 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

[vast meadow]

3600 is a little bit better but I can't remember if it'll be supported by your cpu

[burnt spear]

I'm fairly sure it's not

[vast meadow]

Can't recall but i dont think so

[burnt spear]

And it really won't be much of a perf gain

[polar moth]

Then what else I am supposed to buy with my extra money 😛

the reason why I am looking to buy 2 matching ram sets is I dont like my 2 kits with different serial numbers

[vast meadow]

Uh your system is pretty balanced

[burnt spear]

Depends on your build and what you do. Or you just save it for your next major upgrade like platform or gpu

[vast meadow]

Yeah I'd just wait for 14th gen intel or ryzen 8000 and or next gen gpus

Maybe more storage?

[burnt spear]

You think 14th gen will have more ecores again?

[vast meadow]

No idea

But most people are gpu bound anyway

[burnt spear]

Yeah, doesn't the 4090 still limit the 13600k at 1440p and 4k?

[grizzled bloom]

Definitely

Not so much 1440p depending on the game but definitely 4k

[bronze summit]

Wait what you mean by this

Is that good thing or bad

[vast meadow]

13600k will bottleneck a 4090 at 1440p but at 4k 4090 is the bottleneck

[bronze summit]

Oh I see

I was gunna pair 13600k with 4090 to run M32U

The 4090 bottlenecked is that severely bad?

[burnt spear]

4090 would be the bottleneck in that scenario is what falcie said

Which is fine

[bronze summit]

Yea I see now I got confused

[burnt spear]

Which I find pretty funny personally

$1600 gpu is Underkill for a $300 cpu

[bronze summit]

🤔

[burnt spear]

They should make the 13600k $1000, easy fix

[bronze summit]

Wait

Don't give Intel ideas

[burnt spear]

They'd raise prices if they wanted to

Surprised 13700k isn't more expensive with the e core increase

[bronze summit]

Oop

Isn't it just like 4 more or something

[hard leaf]

as far as i know, 12th and 13th gen are pretty much the same... 14th gen is a complete overhaul

[burnt spear]

Eh, with ddr5 the gap is bigger I think

[bronze summit]

🤔

[burnt spear]

The diff for workstation tasks is much bigger though, obviously

Since extra e cores

[bronze summit]

Welp time to throw while system away get 14th gen

[burnt spear]

My next upgrade is gpu

Which will probably be 60 series

[bronze summit]

JK my i5 is

[burnt spear]

Throw away 13600k to buy 14100

[bronze summit]

Lol

[vast meadow]

14100 ddr5 8000

[burnt spear]

14100k when

[hard leaf]

yeah but according to rumors 14th gen is set to launch q1 2024, maybe q4 2023 at the earliest

was delayed 😦

too far away in time

[vast meadow]

That's normal timings, q4 for the k cpus then q1 next year for non k's

[hard leaf]

no no, last i read about that was q1 2024 for k cpus

like the delay is real

maaaaybe q4 2023

still, imagine waiting a whole year for another gen.... nope

https://tenor.com/view/shannon-sharpe-undisputed-nope-funny-face-gif-12337588

[bronze summit]

🤔

[grizzled bloom]

14th gen is also supposedly using chiplets tiles
They were very specific that it wasn't chiplets, even though it looks a lot like chiplets

[hard leaf]

you cant compare chiplets to tiles, thats non sense!

[naive pendant]

"hey bro can I copy your homework?

sure man just change it a little"

[hardy sage]

Upgrading CPU soon, will have i5-13600k and a 2080 super. would it be worth upgrading from 16gb to 32gb of ram?

with faster speeds?

(using pc for streaming and gaming)

[burnt spear]

Depends on the speed of your current ram

Could just throw in a second identical kit

[hardy sage]

Its 3000 mhz

[grizzled bloom]

Yeah that's a bit low for a 13600k

You could do a 3600c16 or 4000c18 kit of 32gb for not too much money

[hardy sage]

Can i ask what all the different things mean?

What is c16 and c18?

or is that something that would be easier for me to look up

[inland marlin]

i can get it for 199

then + the am4 mobo it comes out to $360

[vast meadow]

thats pretty good although you can get a cheaper motherboard

at least in the US

https://www.newegg.com/msi-b550-gaming-gen3/p/N82E16813144574

[hardy sage]

is 4 8gig sticks better than 2 16 gig sticks?

and what company has the best ram right now?

[vast meadow]

it depends usually 2x16 and whoever has the cheapest for the speed

[hardy sage]

thank you

[grizzled bloom]

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/dqbTwP/gskill-ripjaws-v-32-gb-2-x-16-gb-ddr4-4000-cl18-memory-f4-4000c18d-32gvk

C and CL refer to CAS Latency, which affects how quickly the memory can issue commands to read and write

Lower is better for CAS

But it has to be balanced with the frequency as well

[hardy sage]

👍

[vast meadow]

I wouldn't always get the one falcie linked, what cpu do you have ?

4000mhz just won't work on a lot of cpus

[hardy sage]

im buying the i5-13600k

[vast meadow]

Ahh well then yeah that's a nice kit, I'd personally just get a 3600c18 kit for way cheaper tho

[hardy sage]

what would the difference be in speed?

[vast meadow]

Honestly very little
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/64WzK8/geil-orion-rgb-amd-edition-32-gb-2-x-16-gb-ddr4-3600-cl18-memory-gaosg432gb3600c18bdc

I wouldn't be able to justify 30$ for not much extra

[hardy sage]

could i go with corsair? someone else told me that they have bad ram

it just matches my peripherals

[vast meadow]

I mean you could but the kit i sent is the cheapest 3600c18 kit

Corsair is stupidly priced

[hardy sage]

what is the difference between 3200 vs 3600 vs 4000?

https://www.corsair.com/us/en/Categories/Products/Memory/Vengeance-RGB-PRO-SL-Black/p/CMH32GX4M2D3600C18

is this ram bad? price doesnt really matter as of now. id rather pay $30 more if it matches everything else i have

[vast meadow]

It depends on the scenarios and latencies

I mean up to you i think it's a gross overpayment though

[hardy sage]

what would it be compared to the GeIL Orion?

[vast meadow]

The kits i and you linked will perform the same

[hardy sage]

Awesome, thank you very much!

[vast meadow]

Np

[bronze summit]

so from hwinfo it seems idle temp is 50C but max is good

[sudden creek]

What is the smallest size for motherboards?

[hard leaf]

itx?

use google, it will tell you the exact dimensions if that is what you need

[amber canopy]

iirc, itx is 11.7x11.7cm

[hollow knot]

Im just wondwring will itx case fit 40 series or 7000 series gpus

[vast meadow]

dependeds on the itx case and the model of gpu

for example the 7900xtx is pretty slim but 4090 is huge

[hard leaf]

[limber dragon]

itx is smallest standardized size. You can always get smaller in custom form factors

[wind karma]

I wanna make an itx build so bad

but also its so expensive and i don't really need it

[amber canopy]

Baller

[tulip merlin]

Interesting board, what is it?

[amber canopy]

Maximus VI Impact

says it on the board lol

[tulip merlin]

Is that a cooling tower for VRM?

I'm not interested enough to go look it up

[amber canopy]

nope, that's part of the power delivery itself

[tulip merlin]

ok, cool

[amber canopy]

yea

[vast meadow]

Power delivery on a board is what vrms are

[amber canopy]

Yes... that's the power delivery. What's your point?

[vast meadow]

Ah i see what you meant, on first read it looked like you said power delivery and vrms are different things

[wind karma]

This doesn't look like it would hold an am4 cpu, right?

[vast meadow]

i mean it would fit but it looks quite large so it would probably rattle around and with all the pins i wouldnt like to

[wind karma]

It's about 5cm

The inner pocket is only like 1/5 of a cm which doesn't seem deep enough for the pins to float

[dull flint]

[wind karma]

Yeah this thing is def fked

Traveling In a few days so I gotta figure something else out

Worst case scenario I'll make room in my luggage for the matx mobo box and bring that while thing with cpu in socket

[dull flint]

That seems like a better idea ngl

Altho am4 mobo slots aren't the best either lmao

[wind karma]

I have limited room though, gonna see about getting an actual clamshell made for am4

Amazon prime come in clutch please 🙏

[dull flint]

Suppose you could buy a little plastic tray off ebay or something?

Actually

What about going to a pc store

And asking them for one

[wind karma]

Yeah unfortunately I'm in a small town and don't think there's a PC store

No car so it's a couple hours to take transit into Denver

[dull flint]

Ah ew

I remembered when I got my 10850KA they had a special box for it, but I never got the box

Went down to the PC store and asked them for the box and they just gave me one lol

Functionally does me nothing but they apparently had more in the back from other builds lol

[solemn frost]

If you too mount a cooler that has an ARGB cable but the ARGB header on the mobo is on the bottom of the board, could you still connect the ARGB?

[dull flint]

Argb extension cables are quite cheap

[solemn frost]

Ok good stuff

https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/2B7rC6

Here’s the build

[bronze summit]

@dull flint ahhhh its Here

[dull flint]

How much of this have you bought

[solemn frost]

Gpu, cpu, cooler, case

[burnt spear]

I made a few changes https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/jDyb6r

Oh you alr have aio

I'd still change the ram and psu tho

[solemn frost]

Have the pro rs motherboard but thinking of switching to the steel legend since I use more usb ports

[burnt spear]

Also ssd

[dull flint]

This is better

Sadge you already have the aio and gpu

[bronze summit]

Nzxt best aio

[bronze summit]

@grizzled bloom ah

https://tenor.com/view/this-is-not-a-drill-hughie-campbell-jack-quaid-the-boys-listen-up-gif-26161703

[dull flint]

Nope. This is definitely a drill

[cyan raft]

Kenzie is about to find a way to break the socket installing that frame

[dull flint]

Wouldn't surprise me tbh

[bronze summit]

THIS IS NOT A DRILL

[dull flint]

I'm not helping with this today, I have a lot of work ahead of me

[bronze summit]

I'm not trying to break it on purpose but things happen

[cyan raft]

“Uhh where are the socket pins??”

[bronze summit]

I can do it today I got work

[bronze summit]

Bruh

[dull flint]

Nor tomorrow either

Lolol

[bronze summit]

Guy on gamer nexus said to keep cpu insocket

[dull flint]

He also said a bit more than that

[bronze summit]

Well not like I need your help I can look at the tutorial gamer nexus did

[dull flint]

I surely hope so

Lmao

[bronze summit]

https://tenor.com/view/comendo-as-unhas-power-couple-brasil-ansiosa-muita-ansiedade-nervosa-gif-20483605

[wind karma]

Got lost in #general-chat so sending here

Can anyone personally reccomend a 3d printed AM4 Cpu holder for transport? Lost my original clamshell

Found these which seem fine

but if anyone has a recommendation that they've used i'm happy to take it

[limber dragon]

just use some foam and tape....

[wind karma]

gotta protect the pins, no?

[limber dragon]

that's what the foam is for

[wind karma]

wait like stab the pins into the foam...?

didnt think they were stiff enough to do that

[limber dragon]

have you touched the pins before?

[wind karma]

nah

[limber dragon]

[wind karma]

sorry didn't realize I was supposed to test their sturdiness

always been straight outta the box into the mobo

maybe I'm thinking of a different density of foam

[wind karma]

Does the foam my GPU came in work for this?

evga gpu, black foam maybe 1/2cm thick

not a cutout but just wrapped around the gpu

[limber dragon]

its foam

and some am4 cpu

[wind karma]

?

[bronze summit]

Who the hell said the instructions where simple and clear on the contact frame

Not clear

Wtf is this

4 pics and that's all I get

[limber dragon]

take off old -> put on new

there should only be 2 steps

[bronze summit]

Bruh

[limber dragon]

issa ilm

[bronze summit]

If it is to tight it willbream mobo

[limber dragon]

says who? Just dont break your pcb

[hardy sage]

Is ddr5 even worth it rn?

[bronze summit]

Gamer nexus

[dull flint]

Depends if you think 5% or so for nearly/basically double *normal ddr4 is worth it

If you're going for an enthusiast build and you overclock the snot out of it then yeah, kinda getting to be worth doing

But if just to have it? Not really

[eternal helm]

if you do a lot of productivity that can take advantage of that real bandwidth it could be nice

[limber dragon]

hate to break it to you, but a bend in a mobo doesnt really do anything... this is the z790 apex https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/902660521889759263/1047780442658586674/CAEF9F06-1408-4406-A9B1-D83D85C8C37B.jpg

[eternal helm]

• a microcenter nearby would be very nice for the deals

[bronze summit]

Oh god

[limber dragon]

this is every z790 apex, and have you heard any issues with it?

[bronze summit]

@copper solar is your mobo bent

[copper solar]

no

[hollow knot]

damn my m2 screwdriver didnt fit new pc build m2 drive . pc build need 2 wait til screwdrivers come in tomorrow at least

[bronze summit]

You don't have apex you have rog don't you

[copper solar]

i do

[limber dragon]

every apex is bent until you take the heatsink off... they didnt use the right dimensions for it

[dull flint]

Sounds like an afterthought

[bronze summit]

@limber dragon I did a straight line on my cpu this time

[dull flint]

Wow

That's actually beautiful

[amber canopy]

the top right

[limber dragon]

and not enough pressure overall

paste is supposed to fill micro-gaps, not have a physical layer

[bronze summit]

That's why we got contact frame brrrr

Also I'm still confused by everything

[limber dragon]

contact frame isnt going to help that cooler

[bronze summit]

The cooler is ek

Weird didn't here any click

[limber dragon]

why would there be a click?

[dull flint]

There is no click

[bronze summit]

They had click on the video

Also it's not screwing in

[limber dragon]

you mean gn's torque wrench had a click?

[bronze summit]

Hm

[dull flint]

Do not screw it in any further than just after you feel the slightest bit of friction

[bronze summit]

Omg I'm so dumb

I was turning it left

[royal elk]

Lefty loosy righty tighty

[wind karma]

That's quite a bit of paste

I suppose the frame makes it easier to clean?

[hardy sage]

Thanks!

[bronze summit]

It's boots

[dull flint]

Why is it wearing boots

Smh

[bronze summit]

@dull flint OMG

AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

IT WORKED

REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

79C BRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR

this is old test

new test

@stiff kraken looky i got lower temps UwU

@grizzled bloom look at this

[stiff kraken]

boring

red numbers are more fun

[bronze summit]

we can do that

[limber dragon]

red way more fun

[bronze summit]

aw i wanna make my cpu pull 300W

[limber dragon]

you should be able to with more vcore

mine's just running stock with a throttle temp of 90c

[bronze summit]

mines stock at 210W or something

it doesnt go any higher

[dull flint]

CongratulaWellDoI'mSoProudOfYGood Job

[bronze summit]

https://tenor.com/view/dancing-happy-gif-23228412

[steady fable]

Did the BIOS undervolt on my Ryzen 7 5800X and running 10C cooler in MSFS...havent run Cinebench yet, but I expect that to be better as well

[silent folio]

Would it be worth the effort to try to trade/sell my unopened 12900k for a 13700k?

Long story short, I purchased a 12900k for $340 through an employee discount. I wanted 13th gen, especially the 13700k because from all reviews that I've seen report that it's faster, runs cooler, consumes less power, and produces less heat than the 12900k. Unfortunately, the 13th gen series was not available through the employee discount program. So I decided to go for the flagship for higher resale value, heck I could even make a profit potentially if I could sell it. However it just seems like a hassle often times with shipping or a local purchase.

I'm wondering if I should just nix trying to sell/trade it and just install it once I receive it, because I know at best, it isn't THAT much of a performance increase from 12900k to 13700k. Thanks in advance.

To add a little more context, I am upgrading to a new processor from a 6700k, I have a ddr5 board now to accompany the 12/13th gen processor, I am aircooling with the dark rock pro 4, and I also have a contact correction frame to replace the stock lga 1700 cpu retention issue.

[cursive epoch]

I would say it's worth it, but which exact mobo do you have?

[silent folio]

asus z790-a

[cursive epoch]

If it has bios flashback you can easily update bios without needing a cpu

Ah z790

Yeah go for it then

[silent folio]

ty

[vast meadow]

Can you return it? And yeah 13700k is better

[slim trench]

hello

[frosty depot]

Well hello there @slim trench . You look scrumptious. Mind if I take a bite? Maybe just a nibble?

[slim trench]

lol

[frosty depot]

pulls out taco sauce packet

[slim trench]

i was wondering can i talk abt problems here

[frosty depot]

Sure. What ya having a problem with? I hope you haven't lost all your cheese 😱

[slim trench]

XD

I dropped my Amd CPU and did not bend or break a pin but I lost 2 RAM channels

and it is the two closest to the cpu

[hollow thorn]

The two slots closest to the CPU are 2 different channels

Unlikely dropping your CPU leading to those two slots being dead

[slim trench]

yeah the 2 farthest still work

but i checked there were no bent pins or broken ones

[hollow thorn]

It most likely has nothing to do with the chip

[slim trench]

hmm

[hollow thorn]

If you lost a memory channel, you'd have either slots 1 and 3 dead or 2 and 4 dead

Wait

[hollow thorn]

Any pins missing?

[hollow thorn]

Scratch that I'm confusing myself

First and second slots would be the same channel

[slim trench]

ah

fyi it is a ryzen 5 3600

[hollow thorn]

Take a picture of the pins if you could?

[slim trench]

ill have to remove my cpu

i am current ly using my pc

[hollow thorn]

How does memory react when you put it in the slots closest to the CPU?

Doesn't get detected at all or?

[slim trench]

get a ram error on the board and it does not boot

even when i put it in the recomended slots 2&4 it does not boot but when i have it in slots 3&4 it works

i even reset the bios and it did not change

[hollow thorn]

What about 1&3

[slim trench]

i have not tried yet cooler makes it difficult

using DH15

[hollow thorn]

If you get a chance to check the pins again, look at yellow pins here

[slim trench]

i can try

I'm gonna check the cpu

[hollow thorn]

Take the fan off on the ram side to make accessing ram easier with d15

[slim trench]

I can get the ram in just a tight fit

But changing slots is a lot easier than Meticulously looking at cpu pins

[hollow thorn]

Prob want to take a glance at Mobo socket and those pins too in case it's the socket that's damaged for some reason

[slim trench]

It is a new board so I will check

1&3 no boot

Hold on

1&3 we got boot

Gonna try 2&4

@hollow thorn

I have boot now

Your not gonna belive it but the cooler had pryed up one side of the cpu @hollow thorn

[vast meadow]

Not surprising if you fully screw in one side before the other and not screw in even increments tbh

[slim trench]

Well I screwed them in evenly last time but I could of done one side a little bit more

[silent folio]

Nope, sadly not

[hard leaf]

Not sure if you are allowed to do such a flip using the employee discount program tho. Be careful doing that

Heard some stories of ppl who were found selling parts that way

[silent folio]

Eh, I'll take my chances with a one-off

[vast meadow]

One off should be fine

[silent folio]

Should I try to do a 1:1 trade for a 13700k or make them pay a little more

Or what price should I try to get for a 12900k? $430?

[vast meadow]

if you can yeah get a 1:1

[signal kite]

Is it worth upgrading my 3700x for 4K gaming? Besides StarCraft it doesn’t seem like many games benefit much.

[hard leaf]

4k gaming is gpu bound, your cpu will be idle most of the time so.... no

[burnt spear]

not really unless you're buying a 4090

[mild jackal]

Depends what you play, I'm sure you could find titles where a 3700x is bottlenecking a 3080 or similar at 4k 120+

Mainly on 1% lows, frametime consistency

[amber canopy]

[dull flint]

Neat

[amber canopy]

https://hwbot.org/submission/2582275_wizerty_cinebench___r15_core_i7_4930k_1707_cb one of the many scores on this chip i plan to beat

im probably gonna need to buy a few more chips

[dull flint]

Lol hwbot calls it's cores e cores

Not even p cores

6e config

[amber canopy]

wait fr? where

for the 4930k?

[amber canopy]

oh thats not "e-cores"

That's Ivybridge-E cores

[dull flint]

Oh wait yeah you right

[amber canopy]

Ivybridge-E is the architecture

[dull flint]

Haha

Well now I can't unthink that

[amber canopy]

😔

bruhhh

[unkempt cipher]

Hey what can I use to clean my cpu to reapply thermal paste?

[cursive epoch]

q tip and isopropyl alcohol, 90% or higher is recommended

and do get the pure kind, no moisturizer added

[unkempt cipher]

I see on amazon's top choice there's this https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07NFSFBXQ/ref=sw_img_1?smid=ATVPDKIKX0DER&psc=1

[cursive epoch]

Yep that's what you would get ideally

[unkempt cipher]

Gotcha and with the thermal paste, about how much paste should i apply in size?

[cursive epoch]

There's honestly never too much, but there's too little that you should worry