#cpus-mobo-and-memory

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grizzled bloom
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That's 100% normal

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It'll boost as long as it's not too hot

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You passed vintage 😭

vernal cosmos
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as the best helper on wegg

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I wonder how hes doing to be honest

grizzled bloom
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True. His legacy shall continue.

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Yeah, hope he's been well

vernal cosmos
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I dont understand why he completely went offline tho tbh

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I wish he woulda stayed but maybe a message or 2 a day

eternal helm
vernal cosmos
eternal helm
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šŸ’€

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Dm

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Autocorrect literally killed me

vernal cosmos
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i was like

eternal helm
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What happens in wegg, stays in wegg

vernal cosmos
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AGAIN?!

eternal helm
grizzled bloom
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I wasn't personally involved in the whole affair with him leaving, I remember something about health issues.

eternal helm
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Huh, I remembered it as his work went back to in-person so he was busy

vernal cosmos
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Ah that really sucks

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hope he got better

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vintage is one of the reasons I know what I do about tech tho

eternal helm
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That was one of his last messages here

grizzled bloom
eternal helm
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Hell yeah

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Y'know what's funny, and I bet he'll see this, vintagegoose literally seems like vintageracer ressurected?

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Have you also kinda seen the resemblance - not just the name, but like mechanical knowledge and stuff?

grizzled bloom
eternal helm
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It's just such a funny coincidence lmao

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I bet you've noticed it too

grizzled bloom
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No idea who you're talking about, I don't think I've exchanged more than a couple if any messages with them.

eternal helm
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That's crazy

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I would think you've seen him in chat way more

grizzled bloom
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If they're in general a lot, I'm not

eternal helm
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Ah ok

grizzled bloom
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I literally keep general muted lmao

eternal helm
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L

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also

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this is totally related to this channel

strange spindle
grizzled bloom
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He's fine probably, just stopped using discord

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He was one of the OG mods

agile jolt
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Wrong chat

vast meadow
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Cables are white tho

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The list i put together for you had a 6800xt and it was same price, better cpu and cooler too also you don't need to pay for Windows

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Also 11th gen is more expensive and worse than 12th gen

vast meadow
strange spindle
strange spindle
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how!?

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I also thought I didn't but my friend told me I do

vast meadow
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You don't need to activate windows it's free

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You just get a small watermark

strange spindle
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Oh

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A

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Where's the watermark?

vast meadow
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Bottom right

strange spindle
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Ah welp that's good to know

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Now I get to spent 300 in something else

strange spindle
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Lmao

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Will it be there if I'm playing games?

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Or watching yt?

vast meadow
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Yes

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It's not very noticeable tho

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Or if it bothers you that much you can get keys elsewhere from 3rd parties for like 5-20$ although can't tell here kind of a legal grey area

strange spindle
vast meadow
strange spindle
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I know I got 2.3 ish to spend

vast meadow
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What's tax where you are?

strange spindle
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I'm pretty sure pst gst and shipping

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I'm getting some stuff from a tech store near me so I can not pay for shipping

vast meadow
strange spindle
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I think my case and my ram

strange spindle
vast meadow
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Idk what pst and gst mean

strange spindle
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It's just some tax

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It's 7%

vast meadow
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Well what's the %'s lol

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Ah okay

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I'll leave 10% off just in case

strange spindle
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I just searched it up

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Kk

vast meadow
long geyser
strange spindle
strange spindle
vast meadow
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Okay

strange spindle
vast meadow
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No worries

strange spindle
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Or cad

vast meadow
strange spindle
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Is there anything special about the cpu?

vast meadow
strange spindle
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Why an i-5

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From what I know 3060+ should be and i-7 +

vast meadow
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The 12400f is better in games than any non 12th gen i7

burnt spear
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The 12600kf games near identically to the 12900k

strange spindle
untold jay
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Ok so I figured out why it was running so hot

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So 1 of the problems might have been the original paste application but it was mostly due to they fact that my room was extraordinarily hot

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It’s running at 50-60C idle with those 70c spikes y’all were talking about with the quick boosting or what ever

strange spindle
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Wait 50-60c Is rlly hot?

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Daym

vast meadow
strange spindle
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Oh god I just woke up and saw the price for the PC I want it's only 1500k

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Should I??

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I might change the pcu and the ram

strange spindle
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Compared 2 this

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Same thing

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Is it a good build?

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I might add more ram

vast meadow
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Also that looks like you're using us pc part picker

strange spindle
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Is it?

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Let me check

vast meadow
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That windows and 400d make it look it

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You can use my list with 4000d airflow just the pop air is a few $ more and comes with 3 rgb fans instead of 2 black ones

strange spindle
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Pop air got 3? Daym

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I probably change it to that then

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I'll*

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Also I was dumb and it was ud

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Us*

amber canopy
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Guys my cpu sockets aren't working for some reason

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idk what happened

burnt spear
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If it can dodge a wrench it can run a cpu

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Or something like that

amber canopy
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🤨

amber canopy
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dies

vast meadow
amber canopy
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i dont think they can take any instructions anymore haha im funny right

vast meadow
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bribery alawys works

strange spindle
strange spindle
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i feel like everything is good about the build but im not sure if i should change the cpu

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any1 know if theres any bottelnecks?

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maybe my cpus to good, people are using it with 3090s and im using it with an 3060 ti lmao

cursive epoch
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Intel reportedly has three dies for Raptor Lake-S ExtremePlayer has an update to the Intel 13th Gen Core specs, including the models that are not launching in the foreseeable future. According to the specs posted by the Chinese content creator ExtremePlayer, Intel is set to launch 14 different SKUs featuring four to twenty four cores. […]

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dem cores

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sad 13100 has no e core treatment

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but at least 13400 will be gud

burnt spear
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Why ask for advice for build lists

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And then do something COMPLETELY different

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The 11700k makes no sense over the 12400f, especially when it costs that much mote

burnt spear
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Looks like 13500 will be the cpu I'm going for if I wait for rpl

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Or 13400 depending on price diff

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I haven't really cpu oced at all, so I likely won't care to spend the extra to have the ability to on the off chance I want to. I'd rather stick with gpu ocing and ram tuning

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Ig also depends on mobo pricing, if I see another sale on the z690a ddr4 I might grab it

grizzled bloom
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13900 has 65W tdp pepehmmm

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I guess that's another way to implement the K tax, if you want the power it needs to perform you gotta pay the piper

burnt spear
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Might just be a matter of unlocking it

grizzled bloom
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Possibly but reviewers tend to use stock power limits

burnt spear
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Yeah

grizzled bloom
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That could hurt more than help in the long term

burnt spear
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I just wish there was more to go off of performance wise for it and am5

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Because I'm thinking about just buying am5 and getting ddr5, but if waiting a month means getting a 13th gen cpu that works with ddr4 and performs just as well/ better, id rather do that

grizzled bloom
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They're both set to release mid October last I heard so we should get more performance leaks next month

burnt spear
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I've waited this long

burnt spear
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Or 16th

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One of the two

grizzled bloom
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I thought that was GPUs, could have been mixed up

burnt spear
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Or maybe it was 22nd... idk I'm confusing myself

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But there was something on it being in September earlier today

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That sentence makes no sense

grizzled bloom
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We're just confusing ourselves at this point lol

burnt spear
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Mm

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I'm too tired for this

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Ask Ravell, he's been following the leaks religiously

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I just hope it isn't like me with 6000 series apus again, waited to buy a laptop and ended up just buying a diff one on sale

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And to this day haven't seen a laptop under $900 with a 6000 series apu

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So hope it isn't another flop

grizzled bloom
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No ragrets

burnt spear
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I overthink purchases way too much

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To a certain extent it's a good thing

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But at a certain point it's excessive

grizzled bloom
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I'm the same way, by the time I decide on something it's months later or too late

burnt spear
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Yeah I just need cpu+mobo for my rebuild

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Which is why I'm so anxious to buy

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Anxious isn't the right word

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Trigger happy?

grizzled bloom
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My mobo is getting shipped back to me, finally. Hopefully the second RMA actually gets things done properly.

burnt spear
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What was the issue with it?

grizzled bloom
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Memory problems.

burnt spear
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Ahh

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Gigabyte by chance? I know they had some with their 600 series mbs

grizzled bloom
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It stopped loading XMP profiles, it would only set the frequency and none of the voltage/timings

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MSI

burnt spear
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Oh weird

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Never heard of that issue before

grizzled bloom
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X470 even

burnt spear
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If it doesn't fix it any way to get it replaced?

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Istg when I'm tired I forget how to word sentences

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Forgive my lack of english

grizzled bloom
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Yeah I tried everything I could, and when they shipped it back last time I'm guessing they just flashed an old bios version without checking if my CPU was compatible. šŸ¤¦ā€ā™‚ļø

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And I lost my 2700 so couldn't fix that

burnt spear
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Nice one

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Flashing random bios

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Great job msi

grizzled bloom
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If it still doesn't work I'm escalating the issue and they'll probably send a new model, since it's unlikely a comparable refurb X470 is in stock.

untold jay
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Let’s go

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Got my new case

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Computer looking epic now

strange spindle
strange spindle
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ig ill just ask some1 else

strange spindle
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Once I spent a week considering buying a game lmao

grizzled bloom
eternal helm
grizzled bloom
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Before it was a slideshow

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Assuming it didn't just crash

vast meadow
vast meadow
vast meadow
cursive epoch
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maybe

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but knowing intel

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it probably doesn't happen

dull flint
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13400 6p 4e

vast meadow
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Pogg

dull flint
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13105 when tho

vast meadow
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But 13400 might not release til December or after December:(

dull flint
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I mean the e cores come in tiles of 4 iirc so that will probably be as low as it goes

cursive epoch
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13500 has 6p 8e

dull flint
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There you go, another e tile

vast meadow
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Yeah but imagine 13300 has 4+4 cores

dull flint
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Would be kinda epic

cursive epoch
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ye

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that'd actually be really epic tho

dull flint
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Imagine laptops, 4p 12e

cursive epoch
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oh dang

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im disappointed

vast meadow
cursive epoch
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the msi alpha 15 has 60hz display

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no wonder it's so cheap lol

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5800h+6600m ruined by 60hz

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ew

vast meadow
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Ew

cursive epoch
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144hz model isn't available

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and if it does, it's dummy expensive

vast meadow
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Smh

dull flint
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Is it a higher res 60hz?

cursive epoch
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nah, standard 1080p

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no wonder this version had no amd advantage branding

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cause of 60hz

vast meadow
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How disappointing

dull flint
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Heh

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Radeon more like Runt-eon

cursive epoch
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tho im torn between the victus and strix g15

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strix costs more with worse cpu, 4800h

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but it has g-sync, so that means mux switch

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while the hp lacks that feature, and has 95w 3060

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strix ofc has 130w

dull flint
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I still think the gigabyte one was awesome

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G/A5 K1

vast meadow
cursive epoch
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i guess imma have to go with worse cpu

dull flint
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Or go to GF65 and have 95W 3060

cursive epoch
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kek

dull flint
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And get it for like 820 usd

vast meadow
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4800h isn't that much worse

dull flint
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Wow can't edit thx discord

cursive epoch
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tru

dull flint
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New ui succ

cursive epoch
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and strix series has factory lm

dull flint
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Discord u hear me Reeeee

vast meadow
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I swear the swapped reply and edit button on new update

cursive epoch
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which is nice

vast meadow
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Or maybe everything is just bigger where the placement is moved up

dull flint
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I didn't need LM on mine

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230W all under 90C with NT-H2

cursive epoch
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new ui has inconsistent scaling too

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minor problem about strix is just price

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it's 1.1k

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while victus is about 1k-900

vast meadow
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Strix rip

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Any other options for you?

dull flint
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GF65 820 usd TeriDerp

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But no amdy

cursive epoch
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others has worse cpu

vast meadow
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They not in us

cursive epoch
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or it's a nitro 5

dull flint
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Oh

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Ah nitro 5 yeah

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Consistently at the bottom

cursive epoch
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strix rgb makes me go awooga

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it's so cool

dull flint
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I really hate this ui I'm like, doing everything twice guys that's why I'm slow today lmao

cursive epoch
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even tho im not keen of rgb

dull flint
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Strix lappys do indood look nice

cursive epoch
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5800h variant is easily 1.3k

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so imma stick with 4800h

vast meadow
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Oooof hell na

dull flint
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That's as much as I paid for the 6800h tuf

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Lol

vast meadow
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Any other options available for you tho? Maybe a 6600m?

cursive epoch
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nah

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if i want 60hz

dull flint
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Tuf dash f15 foxy?

cursive epoch
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then yes, otherwise no

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that's meh

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i hate the cpu

dull flint
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It's not bad

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I know 3 people who own one

cursive epoch
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i plan to own it for years

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like 4+

dull flint
cursive epoch
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im willing to shell out just so that it can last

dull flint
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Hmmm

vast meadow
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What cpu is in it?

dull flint
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11400h

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Or 10400h

vast meadow
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That's a good cpu tho :o

cursive epoch
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oh that

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for same price victus has 5800h

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so neh

dull flint
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Okie

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Tryna think cos there's a handful that hover in that low end

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Nitro 5, legion 5, tuf dash f15, gf65

vast meadow
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I mean foxy could just send us a link to the website lol

dull flint
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Depends on country tho

cursive epoch
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i look at so many diff sites

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but mainly lazada and shopee, both thailand

vast meadow
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You can send :)

dull flint
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Oh thailand

cursive epoch
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imma just list em lol

vast meadow
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Oh they don't have filters to search by category do they?

cursive epoch
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jib, bnn, and advice

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they do, but it's clunky asf

dull flint
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Lazada and shoppee after all kek

vast meadow
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Sadge, could you try linking to the gaming laptop section?

cursive epoch
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ok

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i gotta go rn tho

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will have to wait

dull flint
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Just a heads up pato, the rule of thumb for I think it's shoppee(?) If the seller has like a sub 95% rating it's a scam

cursive epoch
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not true in thailand tbh

dull flint
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Learned that from my ph friends

cursive epoch
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i've shopped lots

dull flint
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Damn well PH is more sus then lol

vast meadow
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Shopee and stuff is pain tho

cursive epoch
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biggest order from there was dad's phone

dull flint
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Everything in PH in general is a pain for PC's

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I feel for tomie lol

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Like everything has a 1.5x premium anywhere

cursive epoch
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thailand has good hw prices, mostly

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but they're at msrp

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for like 90% of the times

cursive epoch
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lazada and shopee are hard to navigate

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but my trick is type in "rtx 3060 notebook" lol

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bnn and advice has coupons rn

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gives around 70 bucks of discount

burnt spear
cursive epoch
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i can kinda see that

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im just trying to find a 3060 laptop for 1k or less

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1.1k is possible but it's squeezing it

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cause im not sure if mom is willing to pay that much or nah

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i would prefer it with 8 cores

umbral finch
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whats the diffrence between those

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does this mean u can like use an adapter and get the same speeds as if i had one header?

hard leaf
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3 pin leds are ARGB, you can control the colors on each individual led, while 4 pins are rgb fixed, each led have its own fixed color R G B

vast meadow
umbral finch
open haven
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hope this is the right place to ask but i have a HP TG01-2003w gaming desktop with the AMD Ryzen 5 and it only has the m2 ssd that 256gb and i want to upgrade it would the WD_BLACK 1TB SN850 NVMEe internal gaming SSD -Gen4 PCIe, M.2 2280, 3D NAND, up to 7,000MB/s- WDS100T1X0E work with it and be good and what would be some good DDR4 UDIMM RAM 16gb (2x8gb) that would work good with out changing settings

vast meadow
open haven
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yes it has 8gb factory ram that was in it

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it still new in the box have not open it and turn it on yet

hard leaf
vast meadow
open haven
grizzled bloom
vast meadow
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Wait from china

vast meadow
# open haven it a desktop and would it be better to jus t do the 32gb https://www.newegg.com/...
open haven
vast meadow
open haven
burnt spear
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Cl16

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Higher the cl, the worse

open haven
burnt spear
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I dont think that pc can run xmp/docp, meaning a 3200c22 kit would be the best you can do

open haven
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because it hp with the amd

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HP bios has no xmp

burnt spear
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Then 3200c22

cursive epoch
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but i know where to look myself, so i don't need your help even tho i appreciate it

vast meadow
vast meadow
# cursive epoch ah rip, my budget is probably 1k or below, 1.1k is possible somewhat
cursive epoch
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okie

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the tuf is instantly way outta budget lol

vast meadow
vast meadow
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That looks decent too

cursive epoch
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like i stated earlier

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the alpha 15 has 60hz kek

vast meadow
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Oh rip

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I thought that was just a 3060 variant

cursive epoch
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im heavily eyeing on strix g15 tho

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i did talk about it last day

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with coupon it's around $1068

vast meadow
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Hmmm that's the 4800h 135w 3060 or something right?

cursive epoch
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yep

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all others has 90-95w 3060 as far as i recall

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cpu is usually 5600h or 5800h for those, and 11400h on some

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it's this thing

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the link should probably work this time, cause this site doesn't like sharing search results lol

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i manually went to the listing

vast meadow
cursive epoch
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odd

dull flint
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Oh wait 3070 on that one

cursive epoch
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i tried vpn on us

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and it seems to enter the site fine

vast meadow
cursive epoch
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weird lol

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probably blocked by your region

vast meadow
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Lemme vpn to Thailand

cursive epoch
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here's the link to the gaming laptop category

vast meadow
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Oh I don't have vpn for Thailand lemme try like ph or something

cursive epoch
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sure

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that could work

vast meadow
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Yep that worked lol

cursive epoch
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lol what

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aorus 15 comes with g24f monitor included

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i can't afford it ofc, it's got 12700h and 3070ti

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so dummy expensive

vast meadow
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Lol

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It has a 95w tgp

cursive epoch
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im looking at those too

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just kinda iffy about 6 cores

dull flint
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come join the tuf gang

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wow there's a nitro 5 there that has a 5800h and a qhd

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like lolwut

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hmm single rank in the lenovo's maybe

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big oof

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oh nvm just on the rtings one it was one 8gb stick

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I thought it was 1x16

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nvm

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90W 3060 tho so mid

cursive epoch
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but strix has better build quality than all of those :v

dull flint
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I wouldn't really take a strix if it means actually losing some perf tho

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Idk, I don't feel like it's the best trade

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Maybe I'm overthinking it, 4800H is a bit stonks

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Hmmm maybe I am overthinking it, halfway house between a 3600 and 5600X

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But victus has a 5800H

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Meanwhile the gigglebit has a less powerful cpu but higher tdp gpu

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Oh but so does the strix

cursive epoch
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strix has even higher wattage

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so yeah

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and like

dull flint
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Gigabyte and strix both 115w

cursive epoch
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11400h equals to 4800h in gaming

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if gpu is the same

dull flint
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Yeah I see where you're at now

cursive epoch
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nah, strix actually can boost to 130w

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if the cpu isn't loaded up so much

dull flint
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But no mux yes?

cursive epoch
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yep

dull flint
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Oof

cursive epoch
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has g-sync, but no mux

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sad

dull flint
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That can actually hurt it yeah

cursive epoch
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well at least g-sync is cool

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none of these laptops has mux anyway

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so it's best to have highest wattage gpu tbh

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as long as cpu ain't too weak

dull flint
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Standouts are cpu reliant but even still

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Does the gigglebit have mux?

cursive epoch
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doesn't seem bad to me compared to 4800h

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also nah

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gigabyte lacks it

vast meadow
cursive epoch
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i really want, or well

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need it to last 4-5 years or more

dull flint
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Honestly I gotta agree

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The strix seems decent

vast meadow
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Fair enough

dull flint
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I got nothing lol

vast meadow
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Shame no 12400 options

dull flint
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But not because of quality, but cos of paper specs

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It is a strix tho so it'll be good

cursive epoch
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mhm

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not only do i want powerful hardware

#

i also require quality

dull flint
#

For your budget I think you've picked well

cursive epoch
#

to make sure that it actually lasts lol

vast meadow
#

How important is it to be in laptop btw? Cuz if not gaming on the go lots, good pc and just lightweight laptop might be way to go although kinda hard for 1k ish ih Thailand :/

dull flint
#

Likely not happening on 1K there lol

#

130W 3060 pretty much in RX 6600 territory anyway

cursive epoch
#

yeah

vast meadow
#

Is it?

#

Ah nice

cursive epoch
#

i need the portability

vast meadow
#

Shame

cursive epoch
#

and 1k here only gets me 6600 anyway

dull flint
#

Without that mux switch tho it's a bit of a perf hit but yeah it'll be fairly close

cursive epoch
#

for desktop

vast meadow
cursive epoch
#

and cpu is probably something like 12100

#

with eh psu

dull flint
#

More like a halfway house of a 5600 and 3600

vast meadow
#

Fair enough laptop it is

dull flint
#

It's not bad yeah

cursive epoch
#

laptops in this country are weirdly better deal lmao

#

usually

dull flint
#

PH is the same

#

Tuf dash f15 best budget desktop in PH kekw

cursive epoch
#

i just gotta hope the strix remains in stock by the time next 2 months comes

#

it's uncertain atm

dull flint
#

But yeah you consider monitor and keyboard too, 1K for a 3600/6600 desktop that you can carry around seems solid rn

#

It really deserves a mux tho

#

More battery and more fps

cursive epoch
#

other options just makes me feel iffy

#

cause it probably doesn't last long

#

at least in terms of perceived quality during first impressions

#

they're all more flimsy

#

and just less sturdy feeling overall

#

all in all, a desktop with 8 core is far fetched within 1k range

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at least in my case

vast meadow
cursive epoch
#

lmao

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i just like to talk about it alright

#

or i can try used by then

vast meadow
#

Lol all good

cursive epoch
#

idk what's with people in thailand

#

they just like to buy laptops and keep em for a few months

#

only to sell em later

#

at a big loss too

vast meadow
#

That might be a great choice then

latent osprey
#

looking for a board to support a 12400f, I found an Asus prime b660m for 140cad, is that good?

latent osprey
#

compared to an asrock z690 steel legend, which one would be better

#

(Same total prices)

vast meadow
#

No point going z699 on a non overclockable cpu

latent osprey
#

true true

vast meadow
#

Unless the steel legend is somehow cheaper or same price

latent osprey
#

would any asrock mobo be recommended or should I just stick to the prime

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same price

#

bundle deals

vast meadow
#

For same price might as well get the steel legend, altho there's only like 5 usb ports on the board

latent osprey
#

389cad va 384cad

#

i dont use that many plugins, I think I have like 4 on my current mobo

vast meadow
#

Any other options?

latent osprey
#

uh

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almost every asrock board is on bundle sale with the 12400f

vast meadow
#

Actually both are bad bundle prices

#

Just do that

#

Save the money

latent osprey
#

oh dam i didnt notice thƩ msi b660 dropped in price

#

which one would be better tho the msi or the Asus

vast meadow
#

The prime b660m is 5$ less but the msi a pro is nicer

latent osprey
#

say less

#

tyšŸ™

vast meadow
#

Np

obtuse forge
#

Is this chip broken?

grizzled bloom
#

It's hard to tell from a blurry top down photo

obtuse forge
obtuse forge
grizzled bloom
#

The dot just indicates polarity

#

It's hard to see if there's any damage to the area

obtuse forge
#

ok i thought it was dammaged

stable viper
#

yo so my brother was trying to play val on windows 11 so he went into bios and disabled cms and added a new pk key and his computer shut down and now his monitors wont connect to his pc

I already tried CMOS reset and removed CMOS bat and put it back in but monitors Ive also tried plugging monitors into gpu and they still wont connect idk what to do

grizzled bloom
amber canopy
#

šŸ’Ŗ

#

15 dollaz

hard leaf
#

wadafak

#

thats a steal

eternal helm
#

Meh other than the huge issue it's got, it's alright ig

#

$15 is a fair enough price

grizzled bloom
#

Is that $15 including the CPU? If so that's highway robbery, not just a steal

amber canopy
eternal helm
#

big issue

dull flint
grizzled bloom
#

For those that don't speak German and don't use Chrome to auto translate, they're saying AMD might be pushing back their launch of AM5 to September 27th instead of the 15th to update the agesa code for memory improvements.

#

Which is still before the expected Intel launch.

amber canopy
#

fine by me tbh

burnt spear
#

Not fine by me, I've been waiting for rpl/am5 for like 3 months for my rebuild, and im impatient as hell

grizzled bloom
#

It's only a rumor

burnt spear
#

Ye... hopefully not true

#

But what's another 12 days anyways

dull flint
#

I mean in it's own way it's somewhat to be expected

burnt spear
#

I'll be waiting longer than release day anyways

grizzled bloom
#

If I were AMD I'd launch it as planned and capitalize on the timing advantage, while working on the updates we all know will be needed because of the new platform.

burnt spear
#

Mostly because I want to see reviews first

dull flint
#

What worries me is if it's totally true and they're having far bigger issues than being led on (Hello Ark)*

#

But I'm maybe overthinking that

burnt spear
#

Only way I'll be convinced to go am5 is if it is a huge margin better than 12th gen

#

Because ddr5

dull flint
#

I do know RPL should be a lot better as a platform come launch tho

#

Since older platform

burnt spear
#

I just wish intel would give a release date already

grizzled bloom
#

13th gen is going to be a decent improvement but mostly in multi core because of more e cores

dull flint
#

ST going up too

grizzled bloom
#

Single core doesn't look too impressive

burnt spear
#

13500 will actually have more e cores than 12400

dull flint
#

Also higher freq ddr5 incoming

grizzled bloom
burnt spear
#

My state is giving me some money since I worked in a grocery store during the pandemic, essential worker premium pay I think they're calling it

grizzled bloom
#

We're back to incremental upgrades to single core it seems

burnt spear
#

And I've got about $450 right now on top of that, so I've got enough for a 13700+ mobo

dull flint
#

And again, not on higher freq ddr5

burnt spear
#

Considering 12400f is enough for any gpu that exists atm at 1440p or 4k

dull flint
#

I don't recall it being a gpu limited test

#

If it wasn't on 1080p or lower I would've dismissed it lol

burnt spear
#

Single core benches would be a better show of perf

grizzled bloom
burnt spear
#

Oh yeah, doesn't account for next gen

#

Then it'll be more accurate

#

I'll likely be skipping 40 series

dull flint
#

It was synthetics

#

And ES lmao

burnt spear
#

I've no clue what that means

grizzled bloom
#

ES = engineering sample
In other words they picked a sample specifically for the test that may not reflect the final product

burnt spear
#

Ah

#

Was more so talking about the synthetics part but also didn't know that

dull flint
#

Ooo but actually a few google results showing gaming benchmarks now

grizzled bloom
#

Synthetic benchmarks like time spy and cinebench

burnt spear
#

Ahh

dull flint
#

13700K better than 5800X at 1080p low ashes of the singularity by over 50%

#

Cinebench had some big showings too those should be close

grizzled bloom
#

Sure but what about the X3D

dull flint
#

Vs 12900K, 13900K is apparently 24% faster

#

I haven't seen x3d anywhere yet

grizzled bloom
#

Probably by design lol, gains will look a lot less impressive

dull flint
#

Found an article

eternal helm
dull flint
#

It's still synthetics but definitely this looks more noticeable than what I saw before

#

Meanwhile zen 4

#

Usermememark

grizzled bloom
#

Oh yes, the meme factory is in full production

dull flint
#

They probably started performing rituals after that

#

But that result in mememark still carries a bit of weight too

burnt spear
#

I feel like it's going to be similar to how 5000 series was, was better for a lil while and intel had to play catch up

dull flint
#

If you go apples to apples

grizzled bloom
#

"Intel is best when you run these specific settings and make a pentagram with the blood of a virgin"

burnt spear
#

(If having trouble finding the blood, just look for any league of legends player)

grizzled bloom
#

Yeah that's the one

dull flint
eternal helm
#

Amd better piss off with their pricing for zen 4 tho

dull flint
#

They were leaked to some canadian website iirc?

eternal helm
#

Idk

#

But I'd we go off current pricing trends, it's gonna be like $350 for a 6 core cpu

dull flint
#

It'll be a strong 6 core tho for sure

#

350 tho? Nah

#

Agree

eternal helm
#

5600x MSRP tho if you remember....

#

300 frickin dollars

burnt spear
#

If going am5, I'll likely be looking at either 7700x or 7900x

dull flint
burnt spear
#

$300

cerulean wadi
burnt spear
#

I typoed

#

13500 will have more e cores than 13400

cerulean wadi
#

Gotcha. Probably extra crap price though. 13400 is gonna be a winner long as under $250ish.

burnt spear
#

If 13400 beats 5700x/12600k, that'd be sick

cerulean wadi
#

Bet it will being similar P+E but the ipc upgrade. At least I figure no more watching 12600K sales so bad.

burnt spear
#

13400 supposed to be same core count as 12600k

#

13500 supposed to be 6+6 for some weird reason

dull flint
#

6+6? Eh?

#

E cores are 4 per tile, that is weird

cerulean wadi
#

Thought 6+8. Few extra ecores definitely don't impress most of us. I still wouldn't have minded no Ecores, but the 4Pcores isn't enough.

burnt spear
#

Yeah, def a weird count

#

Also it impresses the tech illiterate

#

"12 core cpu? Wow that's amazing"

dull flint
#

Maybe downbinning/fusing off e cores

burnt spear
#

Maybe

#

Could also just be a bad leak

dull flint
#

Not sure but AMD does that with Zen CCD's

#

Iirc

cerulean wadi
#

3days ago from TomsHardware...

burnt spear
#

Oh I must've just been remembering wrong then

dull flint
#

Jeez that jump to 900 series

burnt spear
#

Imo i9s should have 2 more p cores than the i7s

dull flint
#

Double e cores might actually make sense for some people in 13th gen

grizzled bloom
burnt spear
#

Lmao

cursive epoch
#

it's probably just about enough to compete with amd

#

intel only wants to really match em

grizzled bloom
#

Oh yeah by all accounts this is going to be extremely competitive this gen

cursive epoch
#

im just glad that all i5 has e cores mow

#

but 12500 is looking good

fading ridge
#

Do you guys think the gigabyteĀ B550 AORUS Elite AX V2 Motherboard comes with the supported bios for the 5000 series or should I just get a thumb drive because I don't have one rn

cursive epoch
#

it does

#

no need to update

fading ridge
#

Oh ok bet I just wasn't sure if I should go out of my way to get the drive or not thanks bro šŸ‘

eternal helm
cursive epoch
#

wait

#

typo lol

#

13500 i meant

amber canopy
#

it was sold to me as not working btw, i didnt get scammed

lyric talon
#

Hi guys, would recommend rog strix X570-E gaming WiFi II? Will it support an R9 5900x?

vernal cosmos
#

either wait a month or 2 for next gen or go 12th gen intel

lyric talon
vernal cosmos
#

if you dont have the board yet, can you return the cpu

halcyon relic
#

whats the differences between b550 and x570?

#

as far as which you should pick

burnt spear
#

So unless you're using an absurd amount of nvmes, b550 is a better choice

grizzled bloom
#

X570 also supports hardware raid but most people shouldn't use that

small tulip
#

Can someone more knowledgeable help me rq

#

I think I have either a cpu or mobo issue

#

But I can’t figure it out

burnt spear
#

whats up

small tulip
#

Ok so I try to turn on my computer right but the monitor won’t come on

#

And I’ve tried pressing my keyboard and using it wirelessly and if it’s not connected to anything it’ll flash blue, but I doesn’t flash blue meaning it’s still able to connect to my pc

#

The reason I think it’s a cpu issue is bc my cooler is idling pretty loudly

#

Definitely not 100% but certainly above idle

#

I got no clue what’s goin on though

#

Other than that guess

#

I’m gonna try taking the ram out and putting it back in šŸ’€

#

Naw I got nothin

burnt spear
#

I'm not sure, im sorry

#

will have to wait for someone else to respond

#

could maybe try remounting the cooler

#

but i doubt that would cause that bad of an issue

#

maybe cpu power?

small tulip
#

Mm I did check the cable for cpu power when I tried the ram - any indicators that would tell me if it’s actually getting power or not though?

devout mothBOT
#
Pengu#1204 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

small tulip
#

I freakin refuse to believe that I turned it off and on (which is the first thing I did, then again after ram) and now it works

#

Uh oh gpu issue

#

It was my gpu drivers 😔😔

#

Thank u Gorf u saved me

grizzled bloom
#

Latest leaks show Zen 4 3D performing about 30% better than Zen 4 in gaming-like benches, and possibly launching as early as Q1 to compete with raptor lake. We can expect a 7800X3D and a 7950X3D.
These are engineering samples with tdp limited to the same as Zen 3.

#

Zen 4 review kits are going out now

#

Review embargo seems to target the 22nd

#

With the launch being the 27th

#

B650 is planned for Oct 10

hard leaf
#

650 sounds cool

#

sad not to have ddr4 variants on the 650 chipset tho

vast meadow
hard leaf
#

indeed, still sad

#

ddr5 still expensive for most

vast meadow
#

Aye

hard leaf
#

goin to check moores law video about the things falcie said

vast meadow
hard leaf
#

3D variants sound tasty

vast meadow
#

No improvements in csgo therefore bad 😤

hard leaf
#

well as early as q1 or ealry q2 2023

#

😦

#

well no 3d for at least 6 more months... nope

#

either 13700 or 7700x for me

vast meadow
hard leaf
#

i dont need em, but it will be nice to have :V

#

it all depends, for now i have 1.4k to split between mobo+cpu+cooler+gpu

#

maybe to 1.6k till october

#

need to see the winner between am5 and rpl at october

#

and still restraining myself until 40/7000 series

vast meadow
#

What cpu ram you got atm?

hard leaf
#

4770 and some generic 16gb 1333 sticks

vast meadow
#

Ah ye

#

Upgrade time

#

And no d4 to bring forward

hard leaf
#

indeed

vast meadow
#

Definitely puts am5 in contention

hard leaf
#

the monster machine i build for my sis got me hyped

#

12700f and the 690 asrock legend

#

mp34 and 3060ti.... her pc is a beast

vast meadow
#

For me just throws it out the window with my ballistonks love_it

hard leaf
#

ballistonks :3

#

lovely ones on extinction

vast meadow
#

I wish i bought the 32gb kit in hindsight tho

hard leaf
#

im afraid of the "rumored" nvidia big cuts.... if some 3080ti falls below 700.....

#

at the end of this month

#

im not sure if i have the strength....

vast meadow
#

I doubt tbh my 3080 12gb

hard leaf
#

if not then, eff it... ill wait with my lovely 750ti till xmas

vast meadow
#

But just imagine 3080 ti level for 500$

hard leaf
#

yeah

#

if those big cuts are real then eff it 40 series

#

nothing below 80ti for me thx, not when 7000 series is a month away (hopefully)

#

but not above 700, some 680usd 80ti will be a hard pass

silver turret
#

3600MHZ CL18 or 3200MHZ CL16

dull flint
#

Essentially the same thing unless you're using it with ryzen

dull flint
#

Np

eternal helm
eternal helm
silver turret
#

i3 12100F

eternal helm
#

I'd go 3200cl16, especially if it's cheaper

silver turret
#

I am going wait that

eternal helm
#

One of the mods here with a 12100f was able to get 3600mt/s in gear one, but that was quite lucky

silver turret
#

How

burnt spear
#

with a lot of effort

#

also very good ram

cyan raft
#

SippyShibaheart

silver turret
#

On a H610

eternal helm
#

Oh h610 you're looking at only 3200 topped out

#

No matter what

#

Luckily h610 supports xmp

#

Sadly just not ram overclocking, which is where you could go above what the CPUs official support for ram is (3200 in this case)

vast meadow
burnt spear
#

Assuming prices will fall after a little while

scenic solar
#

I'm undervolting a i7 8750H and it always throttles dropping the frequency because of the max tdp set by the manufacturer, it's 45w, and the CPU always gets there and drops to 2.9ghz.
Can i slide it up to 50w? Is there any limitation from vrms? Or is it safe to get it to 50w, the CPU is also rated for 50w max tdp but on this laptop is down configured

grizzled bloom
#

You normally can't increase that on a laptop because the power brick can only give so much

#

If you can increase it then it should be safe to do so

#

What you can also do is make it so turbo never expires

scenic solar
#

But I guess it's more a vrm thing

#

Will the vrm support costant 50w for hours?

grizzled bloom
#

Every laptop is different, no idea

scenic solar
#

Can I somehow check?

#

But there's also 56w for max power draw for a short time, maybe it'll be safe with 50w

scenic solar
#

Apparently it does nothing, the slider just doesn't work, bios settings overrides any other program, I'll see if I can set it to 50w in bios but usually they're all locked for laptops

cerulean wadi
silver turret
#

what is better Corsair Vengeance LPX 16GB (1x16GB) DDR4 3200MHZ UDIMM C16 Desktop RAM Memory Module or Corsair 16 GB Vengeance LPX DDR4 3000MHz C16 XMP 2.0 Desktop Memory - Black

silver turret
vernal cosmos
silver turret
#

what is timings

dull flint
#

Then why are you asking for corsair dimms when they literally cost like 80% more than the ones I linked

dull flint
#

Oh wait 16gb

vernal cosmos
#

not 2x16

dull flint
#

Ooof ok I'm tired

#

Soz

vernal cosmos
#

1 16gb sick is quite bad too

#

2 sticks of 8gb much faster

silver turret
vernal cosmos
#

where u from?

#

since those arent usd prices

silver turret
vernal cosmos
silver turret
#

i will buy 16gb for now

vernal cosmos
#

compatability cant be guaranteed

#

even with the same model stick

silver turret
vernal cosmos
#

yeah thought so

hard leaf
#

never buy 1 stick, always in pair kits, either 2x8 or 2x16 but never 1 stick alone

silver turret
#

i need something that is 5000 or less

hard leaf
#

1 stick = terrible performance

vernal cosmos
silver turret
#

i3 12100F

silver turret
silver turret
hard leaf
#

yes

silver turret
#

but a 16gb is less than a 2x8gb

hard leaf
#

math too hard?

silver turret
#

no

#

it is ez

vernal cosmos
#

buy 2

vernal cosmos
silver turret
dull flint
#

Ballistonks

vernal cosmos
#

lol i bought 6 of those in feb

silver turret
vernal cosmos
#

i said buy 2

silver turret
vernal cosmos
#

that doesnt apply to crucial ballistx

hard leaf
#

ballistonks

silver turret
hard leaf
#

those are of a special breed

#

still you need 2

vernal cosmos
#

i would explain more but too much to type with one hand

hard leaf
#

ok...

vernal cosmos
#

@dull flint come explain what die mixing is

hard leaf
#

dude, both hands on the desk! now!

vernal cosmos
#

i cannot

hard leaf
#

hahaha

dull flint
silver turret
#

BRUH that is 2,689 and 2,689 X 2 is 5,378

vernal cosmos
hard leaf
#

well i dont think you will find 2x4 kits on ddr4

silver turret
vernal cosmos
silver turret
#

no

#

idk if 16 is enough

vernal cosmos
#

then simply buy 2 more of the same 8gb sticks later

#

@dull flint explain not write a damn thesis bro

silver turret
vernal cosmos
#

wow

#

man spent 10 mins

#

typing an emoji

silver turret
hard leaf
#

worth

dull flint
#

Copypasta bruh

vernal cosmos
silver turret
silver turret
dull flint
# vernal cosmos <@101107951401455616> come explain what die mixing is

Die mixing is what the label is given for mixing two different IC's into a set of RAM. Each ram stick comes burned in with IC's or little memory chips. Each chip comes from a different manufacturer and are made to run in a certain way that meets the requirements to allow each ram to run at a certain speed.

Buuuuut...

Each manufacturer does it differently, so when you mix two IC's/manufacturer's sticks together get different timings, voltages, everything else running at different speeds. A motherboard needs to compensate for that. The result is something a lot slower than running two identical sticks from the same kit.

silver turret
#

....

#

man typed this in 17 sec

vernal cosmos
#

u have been fired

dull flint
#

I never was techie, cannot fire

vernal cosmos
#

job applications open for being my typist wen cat sleep in hand

dull flint
#

Especially when talking about c*rsair

vernal cosmos
#

but yes ballistix doest have 16gb sticks worth buying

hard leaf
#

but you need to buy 2

#

not one

vernal cosmos
#

16gb enough for games anyway

dull flint
#

Also it's a 12100F

vernal cosmos
#

i remember sippy saying something about mem support being trash on 12100 s

silver turret
#

is H610 good for a RTX 3050

dull flint
#

Please don't get a 3050

silver turret
#

why

vernal cosmos
#

think it was above 3200 no good on 12100

dull flint
#

Get an RX 6600 for less and enjoy like 40% better fps

vernal cosmos
#

it was in techie chat tho so no way of checking

dull flint
#

And then buy better ram

vernal cosmos
#

india not us

#

leave this to the expert

#

:)

dull flint
#

Used 2060 reeeee

vernal cosmos
silver turret
#

32000

cerulean wadi
vernal cosmos
#

somethings wrong i can feel it

vernal cosmos
#

nerd

vernal cosmos
silver turret
cerulean wadi
#

Not my problem, we all know ballistix is "discontinued" anyways. FeelsStrongMan

silver turret
#