#cpus-mobo-and-memory

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untold jay
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Oh y’all don’t have that bot

burnt spear
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What's the mobo

untold jay
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B450M-HDV R4.0

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ASRock

burnt spear
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Yeah, that needs a bios update

untold jay
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Damn

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So thermal paste

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Actually nvm

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Would it matter at all if I’m just doing a quick flip flop of my cpu the thermal paste that was pre-applied to the cooler

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Would it take a bunch off

burnt spear
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Not a clue

untold jay
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Ok

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Old cpu back in

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But no dice

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Wh-

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I just manually shorted the power button pins

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And it lit up

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Wtf

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Powe button be wildin

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Ok so I think it might of been my power button

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But no harm in updating my bios

untold jay
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Let’s go

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It lives

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😅

frosty depot
untold jay
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so either nzxt cam is buggin or ima need some new thermal paste

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77 C at idle?

burnt spear
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Sounds like bad mount

untold jay
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i mean swapping the cpus kinda took some of the pre-applied thermal paste

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and i screwed it down until the screws literally didnt spin anymore

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the screws have a built in stopper or something

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cause i physically cant screw it anymore

desert jungle
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best cpu/mobo budget deal??

grizzled bloom
untold jay
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is there a particular paste thats really good for the money or is any of the brand name stuff good enough for the 5600x

grizzled bloom
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MX-4 is excellent and about $5 a tube

desert jungle
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im running a 5800x3d

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i just used the prepaste that came with the EK

untold jay
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bet

grizzled bloom
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That's fine usually with the stock paste

untold jay
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yea

desert jungle
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temps are fine :\

untold jay
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but some of the paste got taken with the cpu swap so its a bit thin

desert jungle
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wipe it and put a new coat

untold jay
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of what?

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i needa buy some

desert jungle
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i honestly have never got caught up in paste i just use the cheap stuff

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havent burnt out a cpu yet lol

untold jay
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lol

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i think itll be fine for now

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but idle temp are a bit high

eternal helm
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Mx4 is nice stuff, pretty cheap too

grizzled bloom
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It just won't boost as high until you get those temps under control

dull flint
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77C idle is only 13C of boost headroom lol

untold jay
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hence why im gonna buy some and do a new coat

grizzled bloom
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Toothpaste is ok to use for temporary thermal paste btw

desert jungle
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smells good too lol

grizzled bloom
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At least for a few days until Amazon gets you the mx4

grizzled bloom
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No cap

untold jay
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i didnt know that but i dont really wanna try to manage the aftermath

desert jungle
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gotta be paste and not gel right lol

grizzled bloom
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LTT even tested it recently lol

untold jay
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ima just leave that in "its possible but oh hell no"

grizzled bloom
grizzled bloom
untold jay
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yea lol

dull flint
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Gel = hydronaut moment

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I wanna write to LTT and get them to bench different toothpastes

untold jay
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kinda suspicious

grizzled bloom
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With a threadripper for good measure right? A true stress and longevity test

untold jay
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my psu a little spicy rn

desert jungle
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anyone try the amd noise suppression?

eternal helm
grizzled bloom
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A little. It depends on which one you use.

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Just don't put too much

eternal helm
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For sure

ruby basin
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my friend bought a 3060 and couldn't use it since he has a omen hp with 6th gen cpu the guy at the store said to him that he cant use the 3060 with the old gen and it requires 10+ gen
is it true?

burnt spear
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That is not true at all

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Like, at all at all

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You can run a 3090 ti with an i7-760

cursive epoch
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Sounds like the psu isn't enough

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Considering it's an old omen

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OEMs generally never used psus over than what the parts they came with needed

grizzled bloom
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Sounds like that friend doesn't know that PCIe versions are intercompatible with each other

vernal cosmos
long geyser
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Ignoring CPU/GPU perf bottlenecks, the only PCIe issues would be bandwidth related and would only generally be caused by the GPU having only a few lanes to deal with.

For example the RX6500 has only four PCIe lanes, of which can be gen1 - gen4. At gen3 and lower there just isn't enough bandwidth to keep up with the GPU perf. So if your system only supports upto gen3 then the RX6500 will have worse perf then stock.

The 3060 has 16 lanes with support ranging from gen1 to gen4, so bandwidth won't be an issue.

long geyser
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Then again, bunch of stuff implemented in Discord isn't good (or well implemented)

amber canopy
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@vernal cosmos do you still have that 3600X of yours

amber canopy
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alright

desert jungle
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is the rx6600 any good?

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not the xt

amber canopy
# vernal cosmos yes

Im going to send you a cinebench r15 and 7zip score tomorrow on my 1680 V2, if you can't beat it with your 3600X you have certified skill issues

vernal cosmos
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I will beat it with am4

amber canopy
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3600x

vernal cosmos
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am4

amber canopy
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If you have to use anything other than a 3600X you're bad

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the 1680v2 is a 10 year old chip

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no excuses

vernal cosmos
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You can use any x99 chip u want

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Im just gonna use any am4 one

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:)

amber canopy
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Actual skill issues

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Alright, if I have leftover time tomorrow Ill bench my 6850k

vernal cosmos
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Are you realising that x99 is a dead platform?

amber canopy
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Just because you dont know anything about something doesnt mean it's a dead platform

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crazy how you dont know everything right?

vernal cosmos
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Then with all your knowledge beat my am4 platform chip

amber canopy
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ok

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what chip are you using

vernal cosmos
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with ur x99 platform chip

vernal cosmos
desert jungle
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im running a 5800x3d

amber canopy
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the 5950x your mom bought?

vernal cosmos
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Nope

desert jungle
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no problems gaming and streaming with it

burnt spear
amber canopy
# vernal cosmos Nope

if you cant beat a 10 year old cpu with a 3600X, im sorry bro, but i have to diagnose you with skill issues

burnt spear
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I can't tell if this is friendly banter or if you're actually mad at eachother

desert jungle
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ive been running mainly amd chips my whole gaming career but these new amd chips blow me away

vernal cosmos
burnt spear
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Guys, guys

amber canopy
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the 1680v2 isnt on x99

burnt spear
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We can all agree i7-760 is the best cpu

vernal cosmos
amber canopy
vernal cosmos
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dont even use x99 to fight me

amber canopy
vernal cosmos
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amateur

amber canopy
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1680v2 is older

vernal cosmos
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I mean I assumed it was a xeon lol

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I was just saying use x99

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since you claim its so good

amber canopy
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I mean, if you really want me to, but I'd have to take apart my daily for the CPU

burnt spear
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According to the benches I'm looking at the 3600 beats the 1680v2 by like 40%, though I'm not sure how accurate they are

amber canopy
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1680v2 is more convinient

desert jungle
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anyone run amd gpu?

vernal cosmos
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me

desert jungle
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i overcloaked my vram and undervolted it

desert jungle
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its been steady

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what settings do you run?

burnt spear
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I ran a 6800xt on a 650w psu at 1080p

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Not cursed at all

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I didn't get very into ocing with that card

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Ran into some annoyances

desert jungle
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im running a 6950xt 1000w

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still getting stutters on warzone 😦

burnt spear
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What ram you got?

desert jungle
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all other games runs perfectly fine

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3600 cl14 bdie

burnt spear
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Likely just warzones terrible optimization

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Being b die doesn't matter too much since you're not ocing it

desert jungle
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yea its good ram tho

burnt spear
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Ye

desert jungle
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HP v100

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v10

burnt spear
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Yeah you were telling me about it the other day

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Great price at $150 for a 32gb kit

desert jungle
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yea its been running good

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damn this amd gpu tho

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nvidia runs warzone a lot smoother

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at least caldera

ruby basin
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is there alts for the B660M-A with around the same price?

frosty depot
vast meadow
ruby basin
vast meadow
ruby basin
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thanks!
one more question, is the atx worth the extra money? like should i spend more on an atx board or is the matx just enough for general usage (games and casually streaming)?

vast meadow
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Nah

naive pendant
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When I built my first computer I used a used motherboard, when I was done building it , it didn’t turn on :(, when I tried to find the problem, the motherboard started blinking a red light next to where it said CPU. Is this because of the cpu socket or the cpu it’s self

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Mind I got a USED motherboard, and some of the pins were already bent

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@ me please

scenic solar
vernal cosmos
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bent pins wont work unless you make em straight again

naive pendant
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I already sent the motherboard back

scenic solar
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Definitely the motherboard socket

naive pendant
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I have intel cpu btw

scenic solar
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CPUs are very unlikely to be faulty unless OCd incorrectly

naive pendant
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Ik this isn’t the right channel but can I show you something just to make sure if it’s working or not

vernal cosmos
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Its the motherboard

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100%

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bent pins just wont work

naive pendant
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Can show you something about my aio

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I

vernal cosmos
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No one can say ur cpu will also 100% work, but the motherboard defi wouldnt

vernal cosmos
naive pendant
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I’ve left my aio like that for months

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Do you think it will still work when build it again

scenic solar
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@naive pendant you could also try to bend the pins back with a toothpick or something small that allows you to not damage more

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But you have to be surgical of socket pins

scenic solar
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They can break off if ur not careful

naive pendant
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I already sent it back and got my money back

scenic solar
scenic solar
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I thought you still had it

naive pendant
naive pendant
scenic solar
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So you got a new one...

scenic solar
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Yes

naive pendant
scenic solar
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Is it LGA 1700?
Is it a recent build?

naive pendant
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Imma buy my first computer in a few months or next yr

naive pendant
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Ohhhhh

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Nah 1200

scenic solar
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Ok, you can always ask for recommendations here for newer and better components

naive pendant
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I got the 10600k when it was hot

scenic solar
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10600k is still a good one

naive pendant
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Don’t wanna mess up

scenic solar
naive pendant
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How are they unpredictable?

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Doesn’t all company’s show the specs before listing it!

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?*

vernal cosmos
scenic solar
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Sometimes ram/MB/PSU are not specified, you could get one stick of ram, h510 motherboards (example) and other "not good" things

vernal cosmos
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for example dell and hp are garbage

scenic solar
vernal cosmos
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stuff like abs is great

scenic solar
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Alienware pepehmmm

naive pendant
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Isn’t that OVERRR priced?

scenic solar
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Yes
Most of the time

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They include Sus components sometimes

naive pendant
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I might jus ask one of my cousins to help me build one

scenic solar
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"sometimes"

scenic solar
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Btw there's always a simple YouTube tutorial somewhere

naive pendant
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What abt nzxt, don’t they have some great pre built?

naive pendant
scenic solar
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High prices overall

vernal cosmos
scenic solar
naive pendant
vernal cosmos
naive pendant
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Fans were spinning and everything

scenic solar
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Ayo Linus had got one for the multi pc one GPU video

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And was good

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Good components

vernal cosmos
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You cant say a pc is good but bad price

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bad price = overpriced = bad

scenic solar
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Ofc maybe it's just because it was more high end

vernal cosmos
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since cheaper better alternatives exist

scenic solar
naive pendant
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Screw it imma jus build my self a new one when. I get the money

naive pendant
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Can I built a good computer with 800?

scenic solar
vernal cosmos
naive pendant
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600-800 I don’t wanna spend to much

scenic solar
vernal cosmos
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mediocre parts

vast meadow
vernal cosmos
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bad aios, horrible cases

scenic solar
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800 is acceptable, mid~low range components...ig

vast meadow
vernal cosmos
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bad psus

vast meadow
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@naive pendant what country?

naive pendant
scenic solar
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(800usd)

vast meadow
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Okay sweet for 800 you can get nice pc

naive pendant
scenic solar
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1080p 144hz is your goal? No need for 1k build

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Or do you want 1440p or more

naive pendant
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More then 1440p would be great but my target is at least 6o fps on 1440p

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If not at least high frames on 1080p

scenic solar
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60fps 1440p is possible in basically any game with 6600xt (highest settings)

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You could still wait on newer GPU/CPU series and see what they come out with

naive pendant
scenic solar
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4060 will probably be a valid card

naive pendant
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The worse decision I made was i bought my parts every 6months instead of buying it all at once

scenic solar
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Why? Is it because you could not send them back?

naive pendant
scenic solar
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I started with a 450€ budget for my pc, slowly upgraded and got to 1.2k pc

scenic solar
naive pendant
vast meadow
scenic solar
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No

naive pendant
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*case

scenic solar
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Started with 950 and now I have 2080

naive pendant
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Bro why did I say GPU☠️

scenic solar
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Changed the case too
It was horrible

vast meadow
naive pendant
vast meadow
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So yeah ask for a new list when you're ready to buy

naive pendant
naive pendant
vast meadow
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Np

scenic solar
naive pendant
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😟

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Ion like how it looks

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And I feel like the air flow was bad

scenic solar
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Nowadays it is my brother's case for his budget build, but I cut the case to make it itx

scenic solar
scenic solar
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I'll send a pic of how I cut the mcx into a smol case

naive pendant
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How😭

dull flint
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the 650W will be nice too if you want to yeet it with a bit of gpu oc later

scenic solar
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Also no need for big case and small components

naive pendant
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True

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That’s why I like to get a mid tower wit a full mobo

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I like those kinda builds

scenic solar
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@naive pendant normal case → cutting+ soldering → finished products → add components (GPU not in this photo)

naive pendant
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The cable management scares me

scenic solar
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Yeah, I squished the cables down after I took the photo, it blocked the fan flow

naive pendant
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Can I see your current build?

scenic solar
naive pendant
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Alr

scenic solar
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Not the best pic but haven't got many after I put the 2080

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The glare 😵‍💫

dull flint
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what happened to the backplate

scenic solar
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It was for the 1070

naive pendant
scenic solar
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I'm designing the one for the 2080 too

dull flint
naive pendant
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Imma try to build an all white maybe black n white wit all Corsair rgb components

scenic solar
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I'll do basically same style but with "rtx 2080" instead of GTX1070

scenic solar
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It's expensive

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Even if I have Corsair components it's mostly for looks

naive pendant
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Yeh that’s what I’m looking for

scenic solar
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My fans are loud at full speed all together but the RGB is weggChefKiss

naive pendant
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I hate loud fans

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Or maybe nzxt I’m not sure rn

dull flint
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Corsair makes a couple nice things, airflow cases, dominator ddr5 and good psu's.
Everything else? Pretty yuck normally

naive pendant
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Even their rgb fans are bad :/

scenic solar
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Oh, I meant "don't go Corsair" for fans and LEDs

naive pendant
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?

scenic solar
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The rest is good

dull flint
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EZDIY-FAB make great rgb strips that look better than Corsair's, Phanteks neon too

scenic solar
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Like 4000d 5000... And psus

dull flint
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Their fans are almost universally rubbish for the price paid

scenic solar
naive pendant
dull flint
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SP120 elites are like maybe the only one's I'd maybe consider

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I would much rather P12 argb

scenic solar
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P12 good

naive pendant
dull flint
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you can daisy chain them and they look and sound phenomenal

naive pendant
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These right?

scenic solar
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Sp120 are good Corsair fans but (for me) they're expensive

dull flint
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nah not their fans

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their rgb strips

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one sec

naive pendant
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Alr

dull flint
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scenic solar
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For corsiar components i recommend: PSUs (most rmx) and ram

dull flint
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corsair makes good psu's, good dominator ddr5

scenic solar
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Also 5000/4000 cases

dull flint
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the basic ddr4 kits tho are a hard pass

dull flint
scenic solar
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Corsair vengeance rgb pro are probably a bit overrated but they look really good

naive pendant
scenic solar
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Perfect

dull flint
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reason is they mix chips so no guarantee XMP works on the basic ones

scenic solar
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I never checked my ram rev because I'm lazy

dull flint
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also the ddr5 vengeance rgb looks bleh btw, you seen it yet?

naive pendant
scenic solar
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Is it the silver ones?

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Oh god

dull flint
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lolololol

scenic solar
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They're too basic

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Too

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...

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Eew

dull flint
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so it's still all in one software

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but not with icue bloat

naive pendant
dull flint
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in fact you'd need two rgb softwares with the mobo and icue

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so going the other route you'd have one less software to deal with lol

naive pendant
dull flint
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not all but a good number

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Asus and MSI afaik have icue compatibility but you still need the plugins working

scenic solar
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OpenRGB is good to sync all your RGB devices

dull flint
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asus is two software despite that compatibility btw

naive pendant
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Imma jus ask the server all these questions again when I get the money bc I’m prob gonna forget

scenic solar
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I've used it to set my onboard LEDs because with MSI dragon center it changed my Corsair ram color to red for some reason

dull flint
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msi I've gotten working without mystic light so you can do it with just icue on those

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but even still?

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you pay a lot for middle of the road performance on corsair stuff

scenic solar
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With iCue open it interfered

dull flint
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again, unless it's their cases, or psu's which are mostly good

scenic solar
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I could change my ram color from neither icue nor msi

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So I uninstalled MSI center, kept onboard LEDs off until I discovered open RGB,

naive pendant
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Thank you everyone who helped me, I’m going to sleep now

scenic solar
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Ten I just stopped using open RGB and kept my LEDs on normal cycle

dull flint
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far from my favourite looking tho

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mid

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my current favourite is prolly this

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that's for ddr5 tho

scenic solar
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Nice

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I prefer another ddr5 ram let me show you

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Also the platinum version I like

dull flint
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I'd like those except I know the heatsinks actually do basically nothing

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the z5's afaik are best delidded

scenic solar
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Yeah, but after all they don't really need heatsinks just like ddr4, they're not too hot

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It's mostly for looks

dull flint
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they kinda do actually, the voltage pmic is on the ram now

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so more heat generated on the center of the stick

scenic solar
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They said they would have need "fan cooling" but after some time we're getting ones with and without passive cooling

dull flint
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right under where it says g.skill here that pmic is goin

scenic solar
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It's slightly cooler

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Doesn't waste power into heat

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At least not a lot

dull flint
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even still g.skill needs to do better, they have big heatsinks that basically slip off lol

scenic solar
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Lul

dull flint
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corsair actually has better heatsinks with their dominators

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they're also serviceable, I quite like those

scenic solar
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Yeah,... They're dominant kekw

dull flint
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they work and also have looks

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yeah true but at least rn you can pick the types of ddr5 apart by xmp

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and occasionally by sku using known data

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so a good kit of let's say, (go with the easy one) 6200 dominators is a given to be hynix M

scenic solar
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I don't know what I'll do with my 1070' backplate... I guess I'll just keep it as a memory

dull flint
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and they have decent heatsinks so like, it's actually a nice kit

vernal cosmos
scenic solar
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I thought I had sold my 1070 yesterday but I kinda got scammed by a stupid kid

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Lol

scenic solar
scenic solar
dull flint
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  • starts tripping on the fumes * THE NVIDIA LORDS ARE DELIVERING ME A BLESSIN
vernal cosmos
scenic solar
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Loud and hot

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But it's still a 1070

amber canopy
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Oh lol

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Yea 1070s are still decent

scenic solar
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Waiting for someone else to buy it

amber canopy
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I'm probably gonna keep my 1070 after I upgrade

scenic solar
amber canopy
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Yea sorta

scenic solar
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I'm selling mine for 225€, hoping someone buys it one of these days so I'll get a 1080 for 250 (waterblock + original cooler)

scenic solar
amber canopy
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I'll probably upgrade to something like a 2080ti or 3080

scenic solar
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2080ti not worth it unless you find it at 400-450

amber canopy
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Well yea finding a good deal is the plan lol

scenic solar
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Actually 400 would be the best

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Used 2080tis go for really high prices compared to 2080/s

amber canopy
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Yea I wouldn't be surprised

scenic solar
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In my country 2080ti is over 480€ used

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Not worth over 2080 that is 380-400

amber canopy
scenic solar
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Not worth it since you can get a 3060ti/3070 for that price (used)

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Newer gen = better = (better dlss performances)

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Just checked, found a 6700xt and 3070 for 485€

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That's why I went 2080, didnt want to spend too much, 3060 was meh and 3060ti a bit too expensive for what it offers comapared to 2080

frosty depot
dull flint
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  • too high to notice Reo *
drowsy steeple
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would y'all consider a 12600k a "mid-range" CPU?

scenic solar
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I consider it mid-high

burnt spear
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I'd consider 12100 mid range

scenic solar
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Yeah at this point it is mid range

grizzled bloom
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Celeron is low end, I agree 12100 starts the mid range up to the 12400

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And I guess the 12600 non-K also since it's just a higher clocked 12400 with a slightly better iGPU

cerulean wadi
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12500 also has a better igpu than 12400. Some people get that one for game streaming purposes w/ amd GPUs or something like that, supposedly.

grizzled bloom
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That's really the only reason to get the 12500 or 12600 instead of a 12400 or 12600k. Quicksync.

spring bolt
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nah

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12600 over 12500 any day

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12500 is priced so close to 12600 so why get 12500

cerulean wadi
spring bolt
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12500 is 202 usd and 12600 is 229 usd

cerulean wadi
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Right, think I'd rather a 12600K for 230, thnx. Again, see previous gif

spring bolt
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12500 is a binned 12400f with a igpu

spring bolt
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atm

grizzled bloom
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12600k is good but non-K doesn't have e-cores

spring bolt
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ik

grizzled bloom
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12600 is just a 100mhz higher clocked 12500

spring bolt
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the performace lmao

grizzled bloom
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You can get the same extra 100mhz by setting bclk to 102

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Almost 0 effort to do that

dull flint
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Why even bother with the performance when you can just pocket the $50 difference and accept the 1 or 2% performance drop

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Stick that in a better gpu lmao

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Grab that 5-10% gain in a better gpu instead

eternal helm
finite elm
dull flint
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It's like saying I should buy ddr5 for the future almost but the saturation is not as extreme imo

finite elm
dull flint
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but he's not saying 12600K, he's saying 12600 or 12500

finite elm
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No, chillen said 12600k

dull flint
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Mack didn't

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Mack said non-K

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unless you have an explicit use for quicksync I would never recommend a 12500 or 12600 non K

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esp. with Zen 3 APU

finite elm
dull flint
#

literally below that LUL

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why get either of those two when 12400(f) is basically the same lolol

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Again, I totally agree with a 12600K but not the non-K 500 or 600

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imo a 12500 or 12600 is money worth elsewhere

finite elm
#

Yeah

dull flint
#

For a similar example, I'd never recommend anything over 3600MT/s ram for a 12th gen non K because locked SA voltages mean XMP might default to gear 2 making it slower than a 3200MT/s kit in XMP in gear 1

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and when you buy those higher binned kits they tend to sink money in more

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so it's ends up almost a loss in itself unless you manually clock that kit properly which most people don't know how to do

finite elm
#

The only Intel pc I built has 3200mhz ram. Surprisingly the H510i can use xmp for 3200mhz ram.

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Didn't expect it on a lower end mobo.

dull flint
#

11th gen?

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wow yeah that might be a bit rare for an 11th gen board lol

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the heatsinks on it too look decent

finite elm
#

Ye

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It's a very solid feeling ITX board. Did not expect it.

dull flint
#

3 fan plugs, debug led's, 4 sata plugs

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full 300W cpu connector

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why is that not a B560 lol

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maybe they got away with better quality for the price by sticking to the h510 spec instead of b560 thinkies

deep seal
#

12500f and 6700xt pairing, how much do I need to worry on mobo and memory

dull flint
#

memory would be the cheapest 32gb or 16gb you could find

deep seal
#

Prob will just beacuse last was was pain in the ass

dull flint
#

nah you can go cheaper

deep seal
#

I I brb

dull flint
#

can do it much better than that

#

want more rgb? change the case to a Phanteks G360A. Most rgb I've ever seen on a case and it actually works well for an airflow case

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only another 40$

deep seal
#

Eh care more about air flow

dull flint
#

this is fine for airflow

#

G360A is also a really good airflow case for what it's worth

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you won't really get that with a 465X

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< Speaking from 1st hand experience

deep seal
#

32gb of ram overkill?

dull flint
#

yes but also no

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you can make do with 16gb

dull flint
#

not really any better than a 3200MT/s CL16 kit

cursive epoch
#

ye

dull flint
#

definitely not worth another 30$

deep seal
#

Ain't bad but was looking at the 3600, 4000 speed if I'm not going 32, like tarkov

dull flint
#

4000 almost definitely won't run in gear 1 on a 12400f

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so it'll be slower than a 3200 kit

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3600 CL18 will probably run in gear 1, but also not worth another $30

deep seal
#

dont understand memeory as well as other componetns\

dull flint
#

in other words

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4000 slower

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because it uses a slower gear

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3600 probably ok but not really worth more money

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3200 is ideal

deep seal
#

is it intel thing or just overall

dull flint
#

intel thing for 12th gen

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they lock down a certain voltage which lets you run really fast memory

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for non-K chips

#

it's not really important tho, in performance terms you're looking at maybe 1-2% difference

#

for RAM

deep seal
#

eh

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mean for my amd system it was like a 20% diff

dull flint
#

amd is different

burnt spear
#

32gb 3600c16 is $135 rn

deep seal
#

i know amd is more mem

dull flint
#

higher frequency is higher FCLK

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so it matters a lot more as it affects the infinity fabric

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also AMD doesn't really care to lock that stuff down

deep seal
#

now how much does first word latency matter\

dull flint
#

basically nothing

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especially at xmp

deep seal
#

so 8 to 10 is nothin?

dull flint
#

yup

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it's the other timings on an xmp that make a bigger difference

#

so imagine this

deep seal
#

no idea how to tell timing

dull flint
#

if we shrink the middle timings to these

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it will likely train a faster speed

deep seal
#

Silicon Power Value Gaming DDR4 RAM 32GB (16GBx2) 3200MHz (PC4 25600) 288-pin CL16 1.35V UDIMM Desktop Memory Module with Heatsink Grey SP032GXLZU320BDAJ7 https://a.co/d/geKjrqT

deep seal
#

88 not bad

dull flint
#

ye

deep seal
#

where you from felix

dull flint
#

But the thing with ram is, while there is first call latency, there's also like another 30+ timings on ram that matter as much or more so a mobo will train them to whatever speed it needs to run, meaning it can default to be as slow as it wants really

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so in the end, the mobo runs both a 3200 kit and 3600 kit very similarly at xmp

dull flint
deep seal
#

i didnt think yall said ye

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16-18-18-38

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thats the timing on the ram

dull flint
#

it's fine

frosty depot
deep seal
#

and a 1984 goverement

dull flint
deep seal
#

well now i gotta figure storage out, thinking m.2 with SSD backdrrive, already have the ssd

dull flint
#

the mp33 drive I linked is really good value

deep seal
#

wheres that

dull flint
deep seal
#

ya that aint bad\

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god M.2 tech is amazing

#

cosnidering we went from HHD 160 mb, ssd 400mb to 1500 for M.2

dull flint
#

they're going up to 15000 soon

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new gen 5 drives are kinda ridiculous

#

but also, you'll never need that much in the current day

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so like, cool but meh LUL

deep seal
#

ya but like server processing

cursive epoch
#

servers has much faster ssds than consumer stuff does

deep seal
#

i work is system adm more then hardware

dull flint
#

i mean sure, where it applies it's great

cursive epoch
#

samsung has ssd that's as fast as ram

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right now

dull flint
#

but unless you do some serious work on this pc? going faster than good value not really worth

cursive epoch
#

it's enterprise only ofc

deep seal
#

now MOBO

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would like wifithis time around

dull flint
#

and ignore this btw, it's a false positive, everything should work out of the box without a problem

devout mothBOT
#
Rexed#3866 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

dull flint
deep seal
#

got to get to base thank yall gotta go

dull flint
#

np 👍

deep seal
#

i said like da/mn

vast meadow
#

Unlesss your really trying to hit the 1k mark I'd do this

deep seal
#

bot is my mom

vast meadow
deep seal
#

already gonna hit 1k

vast meadow
#

Board is a bit nicer and case too

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No worries

dull flint
#

I did suggest the case TeriDerp

vast meadow
#

Would swap the cooler to the se 214xt white tho

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3$ cheaper or something

dull flint
#

but all black build Hmm

vast meadow
#

I personally would pay the 10$ just for the built in io shield

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Oh

dull flint
#

or should I put a 280 rad on the 3x120's again

vast meadow
#

White adds nice contrast

dull flint
vast meadow
#

Wat

dull flint
#

luv u lmao

fading ridge
#

does anyone have a board similar to the asus prime b550 plus like price wise

#

i want the same features just need wifi included and type c

untold jay
#

Thermal paste acquired

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How much should I put on for a am4 cpu

#

The packaging says 1 dot 4-5 mm in width

cerulean wadi
#

Yea, green pea size/shape in the center.

untold jay
#

I put what I thought was a enough but cpu is still 70c idling

#

But it did dip into the 60s for a little

#

I gotta go to work unfortunately but im gonna take off the cooler again and see how my application spread out after I screwed the cooler down and add a slight bit more

cerulean wadi
#

Ryzen often idles high w/ it's quick boosting and such, but 70c is up there.

vast meadow
frosty depot
#

You can use a bread clip to get it spread evenly if your paste didn't come with a spatula.

#

When you go to mount your cooler, make sure to do each screw little by little by the same amount in a cross pattern. That way the cooler gets mounted as evenly as possible.

grizzled bloom
#

Overtightened coolers can cause issues too

vast meadow
frosty depot
vast meadow
#

Fair enough

grizzled bloom
#

Technically speaking spreading is the best method but only slightly better than most other methods. The standard pea size glob was the worst but still only a couple degrees higher.

untold jay
#

what classifies as a "bad mount"

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cause the screws are 100% screwed down at far at the cpu cooler lets me

untold jay
#

idk what you would call it

#

but its an AMD stock cooler

vast meadow
untold jay
#

yea

#

thats why im confused

vast meadow
untold jay
#

id fiddle with it but its 2 am

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so i think ill leave it until tomorrow

#

but idk

#

idle temp are high but under load it doesnt get aggressively hot

#

85c is what i got playing destiny 2 max setting 120 fps

vast meadow
#

That's fine

untold jay
#

wack

vast meadow
#

What case and whats your ambient temps like?

hollow thorn
#

Also, it's a 5600x on stock cooler, that sounds right lol

vast meadow
#

Ahh yes

#

That sounds right

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Stock cooler and bleh case

hollow thorn
#

Don't think there's issues, 5600x is hot and stealth isn't exactly great, it'll be barely below throttling under load, and since the heatsink is small, and i would assume fan curve is relatively aggressive, 60-70c idling is probably going to be normal especially in a case like that

untold jay
#

damn

vast meadow
#

Ah yes thank you reosewill, no button to close it off ...

hollow thorn
#

Kek

#

Use inspect element ez

untold jay
#

well i was tryna get a case but amazon said nope took my money and pushed the delivery date back like a month

#

thanks "prime" delivery

vast meadow
#

Talk to support if you wanna get a refund for it

#

Their support is pretty good

untold jay
#

yea

#

even better

#

im pretty sure i can just cancel it

#

no talking to support

#

since im pretty sure nothing has left any distribution centers

vast meadow
#

Oh yeah grand then

#

What case did you order?

untold jay
#

Thermaltake Versa H18

#

similar form factor to my current one

#

just not a rosewill case

#

its funny

#

i watched a youtube video about the cheapest "new" pc and mf used my case

vast meadow
#

Ah that's an okay case but if you can go atx instead I'd grab one of the cougar mx330 variants

strange spindle
#

Is this overkill for a GeForce rtx 3060?

vast meadow
#

Especially at that price

strange spindle
#

Why is it outdated?

#

I have no clue on what CPU lmao

vast meadow
#

12400f would be a nice pairing for a 3060, wouldn't go more than a 12600k tho, if you're in the us, would get the msi b660m bazooka for 130$

burnt spear
#

Would be better off getting a 12400f and a better gpu

vast meadow
#

Yes just saying it's an option depends on what they'll be doing

strange spindle
#

Can't get a better gpu I'm already out of my budget

burnt spear
#

Then 12400f+mobo

strange spindle
burnt spear
#

Yes

strange spindle
#

For a 3060?

burnt spear
#

That would be what i and pato both said

strange spindle
#

Hmm

#

Y'all know way more lol, thanks for the help!

#

Just to make sure this?

dull flint
#

Ya

strange spindle
#

Also one last question wtf is a mobo

#

My cpus the price of it's cooler... I need to change that lol

vast meadow
vast meadow
strange spindle
strange spindle
#

Before it was this overprice Corsair aio

strange spindle
strange spindle
#

This what I found

vast meadow
#

Ah you're in canada

#

Don't look in the us then bonk

strange spindle
#

Lol yee

strange spindle
#

how about this?

#

i might change the motherboard to smth white

burnt spear
#

You didn't link the right link

strange spindle
#

uhh

burnt spear
#

The one in the yellow box is the one you have to use

burnt spear
#

It's privated

strange spindle
#

ye a saw

#

try this

vast meadow
#

You have a budget of 1.8k?

#

Send the link in the yellow box

#

Not the url bar

strange spindle
#

yellow box???

#

hold up

vast meadow
#

Assuming you're not in darkmode it's yellow

#

That one

strange spindle
#

found it lmao thx

vast meadow
#

That's the us not canada

burnt spear
strange spindle
#

should i change it?

vast meadow
#

I'll do it, what's your budget ?

#

I see you're going for a white theme?

strange spindle
strange spindle
strange spindle
#

my entire room is white so im sticking to the theme

vast meadow
#

Okay

strange spindle
#

oh also ignore the monitor

vast meadow
vast meadow
#

Mkay, you already have one or do you want a recommendation?

strange spindle
#

well i want a recommendation

vast meadow
#

How much is total budget including monitor?

strange spindle
#

well ig including the monitor maybe like 2.3

vast meadow
#

Okay

strange spindle
#

so 2k for pc and 300 for monitor

vast meadow
#

Personally I'd recommend flat

strange spindle
#

def flat

vast meadow
#

@strange spindle you need wifi?

strange spindle
#

ya

vast meadow
strange spindle
#

is the 850 watts needed?

vast meadow
#

Yes

#

It's also the cheapest white psu anyway

strange spindle
#

i have no clue about that gpu

#

specs are good tho

vast meadow
#

A 6800xt is equivalent to a 3080

strange spindle
#

woahh nice

#

ray tracing right?

#

idk how to spell it lmao

vast meadow
#

It has ray tracing although 30 series is better at it

#

Very gimmicky atm tho

strange spindle
#

ah

#

i see

vast meadow
#

Very little difference and a huge tank in fps

strange spindle
#

oo

#

woah everything else is also amazing and it doesnt have to much rgb so thats good

#

tysm!

#

if i get when you recommended ill show you how it turned out!

#

also thats some good looking ram lol

vast meadow
strange spindle
#

also should i change my motherboard because its a micro atx

vast meadow
#

Nah

strange spindle
#

why though?

#

wouldent it look small for the ace?

#

case*

vast meadow
#

Here's my pc you can't even tell

#

Also atx is way more expensive or not white

strange spindle
vast meadow
#

Ye

strange spindle
#

ah nvm then it look fine

#

also nice build

vast meadow
#

Thanks

strange spindle
#

is that a 3080?

#

no thats a 3060 right?

vast meadow
#

3060 ti

strange spindle
#

ah

#

fancy lol

#

what if i get a black atx mobo instead of a white mobo?

#

like that

vast meadow
#

That's a nice mobo, depends on the price tho

vast meadow
strange spindle
#

also js the pc you gave me is nearly 3k without tax and shipping

strange spindle
#

should i change back my gpu to the 3060?

vast meadow
strange spindle
#

wait hold up i think im dumb

vast meadow
#

Are you only going to buy from one seller?

strange spindle
#

no i think 3 till now

#

wait can you resend the pc you reccmeneded

strange spindle
#

hmm let me go redo my math lmao

vast meadow
strange spindle
#

i think it was def wrong

#

so do you think i should downgrade my gpu

#

even if i change it to an 3060 ti its still peaks my budget

vast meadow
#

Did you change your budget?

untold jay
#

Ok so I took off the cooler and looked at how the thermal paste spread

#

I think I legit put it on the statistically worst possible way

#

It was kinda thin in most places and was awkwardly clumped up in some places

hard leaf
#

that usually happen when you tighten unevenly your cooler

untold jay
#

yea but i coulda sworn i did in the X pattern

#

i added a small bit extra cause even when spreading what was on there it was getting thin

hard leaf
#

yeah i trust you, thats why i said that your problem usually happen when you tighten unevenly your cooler

untold jay
#

yea

#

musta did something wrong

hard leaf
#

you need to do quarter of a turn on every screw before retruning to the first screw

untold jay
#

yea

hard leaf
#

to tighten evenly

#

and avoid that thin layer on one side and thicc on the other

untold jay
#

yea

untold jay
#

Kinda too late for that

#

Already spread it and added some more and put the cooler back on

strange spindle
vast meadow
bronze pebble
#

which pin connecter on the motherboard is for gpus? I am bit confused. Cuz the gpus would say like 2 or 3 x 8-pin power connectors.

fading ridge
#

anyone have a similar board to the ASUS Prime B550-PLUS

grizzled bloom
fading ridge
#

but i dont know what is a good alternative

grizzled bloom
#

Budget?

fading ridge
#

100-200

#

im doing a 3080 with a 5800x

grizzled bloom
#

Full ATX or micro? Micro would save money without losing too many features

fading ridge
#

atx

#

type c isnt as important as the wifi part tbh

grizzled bloom
#

WiFi 6 and the header for type c

fading ridge
#

Do you know if it comes with the bios to support r7

#

because i dont know how i would get that to work

grizzled bloom
#

It should, the update to support the 5800X was a long time ago and you'll probably get a board with a newer version

#

It has flashback just in case so you can update without turning it on

fading ridge
#

Oh okay cool thanks ill look into it a bit more

fading ridge
#

Also another question, I'm going to install a samsung 980 pro should i bother getting a heatsync or nah

grizzled bloom
fading ridge
grizzled bloom
#

Not bad but you could save some money in some places to put into better memory. Corsair RAM is pretty bad.

#

I'm guessing you're getting the Corsair cooler for the looks and are willing to pay extra for less performance for said looks.

fading ridge
grizzled bloom
#

3080 12gb is better than the 10gb and is only a little more. And that's one of the best models.

#

32gb of RAM is starting to get more necessary for gaming, there's a few games that will fully use 16gb even with nothing else running.

#

I'd also personally go for the 5700X since it's much cheaper and nearly as good as the 5800X.

amber canopy
#

i never close my tabs

#

I have about 60 tabs open atm

#

I use all of my tabs

fading ridge
#

thats insane bruh 😂

fading ridge
agile jolt
#

Just found out my mobo supports faster ram

#

Would an increase from 3200mhz to something higher be worth it?

#

Don't think I can OC my current ram

hollow thorn
#

What CPU?

agile jolt
#

5600

hollow thorn
#

What ram do you have now?

#

It'd help but probably not worth the cost of a whole new kit

agile jolt
#

3200mhz, 32gb

#

4 sticks

#

If I could OC it I would

#

Just found it out looking up the mobo

#

I wanted to install better wifi

#

Current wifi isn't too good

hollow thorn
#

Not worth buying new 4x8 kit imo

agile jolt
#

Aight

hollow thorn
#

Go find bleach and try to oc ram though

agile jolt
#

Lemme see what ram it is rq

#

Wasn't too fancy

strange spindle
agile jolt
#

The Ram

strange spindle
#

THE ram

#

opinion?

dull flint
#

@strange spindle what currency is this?

cursive epoch
#

looks like cad to me

vernal cosmos
#

the case hides it anyway

grizzled bloom
#

Are the cables white though?

cursive epoch
#

can always buy extension

grizzled bloom
#

Sure but that's more money you might as well spend on a PSU that came with white cables

#

I'm anti extension in general so a little biased lol

cursive epoch
#

that's also a good point tbh

strange spindle
#

canadian

strange spindle
#

its already out of my budget

strange spindle
#

ill try to find a cheapr one

#

is the cpu overkill?

vernal cosmos
strange spindle
grizzled bloom
#

You won't find a black with white cables. If the black one is more than $30 cheaper than a white one with white cables, just get extensions.

strange spindle
#

my brain died mid sentence but i think ik what you mean

#

Fal'Cie#7622 is typing...

grizzled bloom
#

Corsair RM/RMx have white cables, I think phanteks amp does too. If one of those is more than $30 extra over a good black unit, you can get white extension cables.

grizzled bloom
strange spindle
strange spindle
vernal cosmos
strange spindle
grizzled bloom
#

Oh fun, I haven't played with that one

vernal cosmos
grizzled bloom
#

I've been fine with stock pixel OS

strange spindle
vernal cosmos
strange spindle
vernal cosmos
#

lol im still top 10 most messages sent on this server

grizzled bloom
#

Level 69 on mee6 giggity

vernal cosmos
#

well cant talk anymore on this acc

#

gotta go make alt so ur always level 69

errant grail
#

is it normal to have my cpu run at boost clock everytime and if not how do i make it back to default base speed