graphics-cards

[lone pond]

I do have another motherboard but it runs an i5-4690k that is more powerful than my i5-6600k (because my current mobo can't overclock and my old one can - an entire gigahertz over stock) but then I have the issue of my old mobo doesn't support my M.2 SSD

[sage hemlock]

looking for a gpu till 40 series comes out later this year.... budget is around $300

[keen nacelle]

6600

[red zephyr]

do any of u roll the 1660 super bec i think i might want to get one but idk if it is the right move bec it is older

i want to find a good 1440p gaming card

but am stuggling

[keen nacelle]

for 1440p, i would say 6600 is the minimum

whats your budget?

and are you just upgrading a gpu, or making a whole new build?

[keen nacelle]

shadow play is the thing from geforce experience, right?

if it is, it can record atleast 5min

maybe 10

id have to check

[cerulean rover]

yes

I do 4 min usually

up to 20 minutes

[red zephyr]

1500 i was thinking of the 3060 also

[keen nacelle]

1500 is 3080 12gb territory

[red zephyr]

whole new build

[keen nacelle]

have you bought anything?

[cerulean rover]

time to have fun with a list?

1500 you can prob get a 3070 pretty easily

[red zephyr]

no i want the i5 12600kf

[keen nacelle]

ok

give me a minute

[red zephyr]

i want ddr5 tho so that is why i want to get a cheaper graphics card

[keen nacelle]

ddr5 is a waste

[red zephyr]

really?

[keen nacelle]

its the same performance as ddr4 for more money

[red zephyr]

ok true true

[keen nacelle]

only very high end kits are better

[red zephyr]

i just want upragablity

that is a big factor for me

[cerulean rover]

quick example list
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/NpKcRv

[keen nacelle]

then you dont want to build right now

[vital oriole]

13th gen is likely to still have ddr4 support

[cerulean rover]

could make it ddr5 but meh

[cerulean rover]

we have confirmed next gen ddr4 boards iirc

[vital oriole]

oh damn

next gen ddr4 boards?

i thought intel only wants to push ddr5 starting from 13th gen

[cerulean rover]

og source
https://www.computerbase.de/2022-06/asrock-z790-h770-intel-raptor-lake-wird-auch-mit-ddr4-ram-kombinierbar/

[vital oriole]

but still leave ddr4 controller

alright

the germans are usually pretty reliable

so imma wait and see

[cerulean rover]

computerbase is great

[livid idol]

Well, we've confirmed that next gen supports DDR4 and Intel strongly recommends board partners do DDR5 only... But we know how much their opinion means

[cerulean rover]

yea lol

[vital oriole]

lol

same for amd

[keen nacelle]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/mjndrD

[vital oriole]

board partners just doesn't like rules

[livid idol]

LGA1800 will be DDR5 only though

It has to be

[vital oriole]

but at least not for this socket

[red zephyr]

thats 13th gen right?

[vital oriole]

by then ddr5 will become cheaper

no

[livid idol]

1800? That's 14th

[keen nacelle]

if you want ddr5 and upgradability, dont buy yet

[red zephyr]

were on lga 1100 now right

[livid idol]

No 1700

[keen nacelle]

no

1700

[vital oriole]

13th gen is same socket as 12th

[red zephyr]

ok

[livid idol]

Previously was 1200

For 10th/11th gen

[red zephyr]

should i wait until i 4000's sersis or new motherboard, cpu's

[keen nacelle]

yes

[livid idol]

New leaks say 40 series could be delayed to November or later

[red zephyr]

idk if i can wait that long

[livid idol]

AMD RX 7000 is still on track for late Q3/early Q4 launch

[red zephyr]

is pcie 5 out yet

[livid idol]

So Sep/Oct

Yes

[red zephyr]

would that be better to get

[keen nacelle]

pcie 5 also doesnt serve much purpose atm

[red zephyr]

or is pcie4 fine

[keen nacelle]

pcie 4 is barely utilized as well

[livid idol]

There's no point yet, 4.0 is plenty

[red zephyr]

ok

[livid idol]

5.0 drives aren't even out yet for server space

[red zephyr]

wow

i think ill go with ddr4 i512600kf 3060 or 3070

[keen nacelle]

for 1500, you can do 12600kf and 6800xt

which destroys the 3070

[livid idol]

6900 XT possibly

[red zephyr]

ok

[livid idol]

There's that one for $730 in #tech-deals

[red zephyr]

this is what i had prevoilsy

https://newegg.io/b407a27

[keen nacelle]

i would never recommend buying purely off of newegg

[red zephyr]

why?

[keen nacelle]

because youre limiting yourself to one retailers pricing

[red zephyr]

i was just using the pc builder on it but thanks

so like amazon also

[livid idol]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/

[keen nacelle]

here

[red zephyr]

ok thanks

[keen nacelle]

take a look at that list

[red zephyr]

would i need a beefy cpu cooler for the i512600k

[keen nacelle]

the ak620 is a beefy cpu cooler

its a drp4 and ndh whatever it is competitor

[livid idol]

NH D15

Top tier air cooling, AK620 trades blows with the best that cost much more

[red zephyr]

can u still get windows 11 for free or did they make it so u have to sign in to it

[livid idol]

If you can stretch to $1600 https://pcpartpicker.com/list/24Nvqm

[red zephyr]

i think i saw something on teclinked about it

[livid idol]

You can still use it for free but they'll start requiring a sign in. It'll still be the same level of free at that point.

[red zephyr]

ok

im fine with the 3060

if it saves me money

[livid idol]

Well if you really wanted to save some money you could go for the 6750 XT

[keen nacelle]

i would get a 6600xt or 6650xt then

though

i would then go for the 12400f, if youre gaming

[livid idol]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/Gw7vqm

[keen nacelle]

g6 750 is cheaper, no?

[livid idol]

$10 more

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/qH4Ycf/evga-supernova-g6-750-w-80-gold-certified-fully-modular-atx-power-supply-220-g6-0750-x1

[keen nacelle]

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/qH4Ycf/evga-supernova-g6-750-w-80-gold-certified-fully-modular-atx-power-supply-220-g6-0750-x1

thats $10 less

oh wait

wasnt showing the mir

nvm

[livid idol]

Yeah I don't even bother with or recommend MIR

I see it as a bonus if something I was going to buy anyway has one

[red zephyr]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/CJgzFg

hows this

[livid idol]

I'd switch the monitor for this, it's worth the little extra https://pcpartpicker.com/product/pXMTwP/msi-optix-g241-238-1920x1080-144-hz-monitor-optix-g241

[red zephyr]

that all?

[livid idol]

Different case too, even the flow version of the H510 isn't great

Probably the 4000D airflow like Forg suggested or the P400a Digital if you want RGB fans

[keen nacelle]

4000d airflow btw, 4000d non airflow meh

[stark bear]

6700xt or 3070 (both are 500 bucks)

[keen nacelle]

6700xt is $460 rn

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/HWbTwP/gigabyte-radeon-rx-6700-xt-12-gb-eagle-video-card-gv-r67xteagle-12gd

[stark bear]

ye i know but in the case that both of them are same which one would be better

[keen nacelle]

3070

[stark bear]

and
6900xt and 3080

[keen nacelle]

6900xt

[stark bear]

ok

[keen nacelle]

though thats different

imo 3080 12gb vs 6900xt, i would get 3080 12gb

[stark bear]

but isnt 16gb vram better tho

[keen nacelle]

no

vram does not measure performance

[stark bear]

rn the gpu is the most expensive part of my build and I'm still indecisive on which one to get.

[keen nacelle]

have you bought anything?

[stark bear]

yes only my mobo

[keen nacelle]

whats the budget for the whole build?

and what mobo?

[stark bear]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/XfyVGL this is my planned build so far

[stark bear]

1500 without monitor

but i want it to go lower bcz i dont need all the performance

[keen nacelle]

looks good, id grab the g6 850 tho

[stark bear]

ok

[keen nacelle]

nvm then

id get a worse gpu then, if you dont need that perf

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/XPjNnQ/asrock-radeon-rx-6800-xt-16-gb-phantom-gaming-d-oc-video-card-rx6800xt-pgd-16go this would be fine

when i had a 6800xt, it beat the best 3080 10gb on timespy with barely any oc

[stark bear]

timespy?

[keen nacelle]

benchmark

[stark bear]

oh

[keen nacelle]

my 6800xt actually beats most 3080 12gb as well

well, ig it isnt mine anymore

but you get what i mean

[stark bear]

ye

im just gonna have to figure out if i really need to get a 6900xt

[keen nacelle]

id just go for the 6800xt

[stark bear]

ok

[keen nacelle]

its similar to the 6900xt anyways

[stark bear]

i thought this was a 6900xt for a sec

lol

[sage hemlock]

better than 2060?

[sonic mural]

Yes

[keen nacelle]

Yes

[velvet grail]

6600 ≈ 2070s for 1080p

[sonic mural]

Not really

6600<3060<6600xt/2070super

6600 at best is like a 2060 super tbf

[velvet grail]

My bad, for some reason I was thinking about 6600xt and not 6600

[velvet grail]

Yep

[keen nacelle]

whats the new expected release date for 4070 again?

[livid idol]

November-December, January at worst, based on there being an overstock of 30 series cards and retailers/AIBs pressuring Nvidia to delay.

AMD is still on track for Sep-Oct

[sonic mural]

Would suck for Nvidia to miss the holiday season lmfao

[keen nacelle]

alr, planning to take a trip to a friend in dec and helping them build while im there

[sonic mural]

"okay kids, your Christmas presents havent come out yet, we'll get them for you next month"

[livid idol]

Right? Most profitable time of the year, followed by the immediate downturn of the economy as people return stuff lol

And releasing things at that low point

Ooof

[sonic mural]

I'm freaking hyped for tomorrow

#tech-deals is gonna be absolutely flooded

For the next two days

[livid idol]

Oh yeah it's prime "day" right?

[sonic mural]

Yea

[fading glacier]

yeah, but no raptor lake/am5 yet T_T

[sonic mural]

I have tomorrow off so I'm just grabbing deals probably

[livid idol]

They're still set to release before holidays

Exact dates are still fuzzy

[fading glacier]

im extremely tempted to build a 12 gen system D:

need to resist the urge of deals

[sonic mural]

12400f/700f ftw

[livid idol]

I'd say do it if you're looking to buy now. You can get your few hundred dollars worth of enjoyment out of it before the prices drop with the next gen launch.

And you can always upgrade to 13th gen later

[sonic mural]

CPUs don't need as much advancement a s GPUs aswell for most games

[livid idol]

Get a 12400 to hold you over for now and get 13700k later, not a bad move

[sonic mural]

CPUs are somewhat futureproof compared to gpus

[livid idol]

Depends on what you play but mostly yeah

As an ESO player I can safely say my 5800X HURTS, even though they updated it to use two threads instead of one lol

[sonic mural]

Lol

Ravell isn't a degenerate, he doesn't play val or CSGO, dwdw

[fading glacier]

true

[livid idol]

No really, I struggle to get 60 fps on medium 1440p with DLSS on in raids, ESO is awful

[fading glacier]

im just a triple a player, rdr2, zero dawn, doom e, and warzone

im just fine for now on a 4770, can hold a few months

my plan is to build the best pc my budget allow on am5 or raptor lake

and stick with that for some years

just... a couple... more... months

[ivory herald]

Worst case, maybe 12600K/12700(K)(F) has an extra good deal after/around 13th gen is out.

[fading glacier]

the best sceanrio for me will be ddr5 slightly better at that time

to have some upgradeability in some years

[sonic mural]

Worst case, you go bankrupt during prime day with the SSD deals 👀

[fading glacier]

yeah worst case could develop tomorrow

[sonic mural]

I'm already calling it

It's either gonna be a p31, blade, Evo plus/pro

[fading glacier]

i mean, i have 1.3k already reserverd for just tech

scary on my hands xD

maybe in a couple months could be enough to buy another gpu as well and gift my 60ti to my brother

[wicked hound]

Just wait for $1300 3080s to go on a $400 sale for an "amazing" deal

[sonic mural]

Lol

[fading glacier]

i mean, 1.3 only for mobo+ram and cpu

[sonic mural]

I've been saving up for prime "day" so maybe I'll upgrade if it's cheap enough

[fading glacier]

everything else already at my desk 😛

[sonic mural]

Probs would be a SSD upgrade if anything

[fading glacier]

but if somehow a 3080 drop to like 500.... damn starigth ill dive

[sonic mural]

As of now, crappy tlc p2 500gb with a 2tb barracuda

[fading glacier]

im holding on my sn550 1tb

[sonic mural]

If I see a nice $130 2tb nvme or something...

[fading glacier]

and some barracudas for hdds

[sonic mural]

I'm looking at buying a nice camera tmrw too probs

Wanna get into photography a bit

I'll probs talk to ghosty about that stuff, he's knowledgeable on cameras and stuff

[wicked hound]

Prolly better off getting used. Only reason for new is for getting newest cams for latest tech

Photography be expensive, gonna wanna save where you can

[fading glacier]

indeed, some used to start on that venture and later on a newer one

[foggy mist]

@fading glacier bought a new PSU lol, we all up and running good

[sonic mural]

good to know, ill keep my eye out

[quartz gull]

People near me are selling 3090's for $800-900

It's very tempting

I should really hold out for a year but like dang those seem so good...

[wheat crag]

Personally I’d shoot a low ball offer like 600-700 or a trade maybe plus cash

But keep in mind u might have to change the thermal pads if they didn’t do it

[quartz gull]

Oh I repaste and replace thermal pads on all my cards and electronics I buy

Sheets of thermal pad aren't too pricey so you just cut your own to what you need

[wheat crag]

Yea I spent a couple extra bucks on some gelid thermal pads

Worth the 15w conductivity or something

[gray bloom]

r5 5600 and 3060ti will be fine right?

[wheat crag]

Yea

[heady turtle]

Yeah but 5600 is a poor choice atm unless they already have a am4 board

Also usually 6700xt is a good bit cheaper

And about 5% better

[gray bloom]

3060ti is already bought for 490 cad

what im missing is cpu mb ram and storage

and i have a budget of 600$ to get the rest

[wheat crag]

I can give u a pcpp list if u want

[gray bloom]

make it canadian not usd if u can

i already have the case psu(corsair 750w) and gpu

i got 5600, b550 DS3H/wifi, 500gb m.2 and 16gb ram which cover for my 600$ cad

[cerulean rover]

need case or no

[gray bloom]

nah

i got case psu and gpu

[cerulean rover]

you can get 12400, 1tb m.2 and 32gb of ram
https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/JHWJmr

[gray bloom]

actuall pre good thanks

🙂

[wheat crag]

https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/gZDXv3

The other ones better

[heady turtle]

Oh nice, then go 12400f like mr2 recommend

[heady turtle]

Mainly mr2's list but you get the full atx version of the board for a few $ less, and aftermarket cooler will be a good bit quieter and a bit cooler
https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/hJkH8r

[gray bloom]

thank u good sir

[heady turtle]

Np

[jolly mural]

So I'm looking at buying a 3060 ti to finally replace my rx 580 and was wondering if there was anything I should worry about when swapping them?

[fading glacier]

doin a ddu before installing new drivers

but 60ti not a good price/performance these days

how much you are goin to spend on that 60ti?

[jolly mural]

Well I'm trying to keep my price below 500 dollars rn and can't seem to find anything else

[jolly mural]

499

[heady turtle]

6700xts are 450$ and about 5% better

[fading glacier]

40-60 extra could get you a 3070 depending on brands and a 6700 could be around 450-500 and its a bit better

oppps pato beat me there

[heady turtle]

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/RFGbt6/xfx-radeon-rx-6700-xt-12-gb-speedster-swft-309-video-card-rx-67xtyjfdv

[jolly mural]

Oh awesome thanks

[heady turtle]

Np

[rotund sparrow]

Someone posted this in a different discord server, is this worth it (used: very good)

MSI Gaming Suprim X RTX 3070 $480.82

https://www.amazon.com/MSI-RTX-3070-LHR-Architecture/dp/B099NYF19F/ref=sr_1_38?brr=1&m=A2L77EE7U53NWQ&pf_rd_i=10158976011&pf_rd_m=ATVPDKIKX0DER&pf_rd_p=379f0076-4c61-432f-8e9a-ebab408f294d&pf_rd_r=8R4KGAJA9ZR3RKAXFZEY&pf_rd_s=merchandised-search-4&pf_rd_t=101&qid=1657654919&rd=1&rnid=16931835011&s=warehouse-deals&sr=1-38

Lol nvm just got out of stock

[hasty matrix]

Yo man I reinstalled my drivers but i still have the same problem and also when I am in a game that is fullscreen and I want too alt tab out of it by whole screen goes black for like 5 seconds. Actually all my displays goes black

[west dust]

Do Xeon Phis fall under graphics cards or CPUs?

[livid idol]

Neither, but closer to a specialized CPU

[primal dust]

What does it look like when a graphics card is failing? It’s integrated graphics but the laptop went from working fine to artifacting (the screen pixelate/flash thing) and sometimes upon turning on I’m greeted with a black screen.

[livid idol]

A lot of the time that's an issue with the cable to the screen on laptops

HP especially, they smash the cable in the hinge so it breaks pretty fast

Dell and Lenovo do that a lot too

[primal dust]

Lenovo ideapad. Good to know it’s not my brother that broke it, but bad design. Does it need to be brought in and repaired in that case?

[livid idol]

If it's under warranty send it in, otherwise having a shop repair it is a good idea. If you're comfortable taking it apart you could do it yourself, it's a relatively low risk job.

[primal dust]

Thanks for the info! Not under warranty, is it simply just take out the cord and replace it? I’m guessing Best Buy will charge me $50+ for that lol

[livid idol]

Oh they'll charge a lot more than that

Yeah it's usually just one cable attached to the board, then you open up the screen and take that off to get at the back. Double check it's not soldered to the screen or something before you get a new one lol.

[west dust]

dang 😦 is it ok if i talk about them in this channel though? lol

i'm looking for anyone with experience with them

[livid idol]

Well, what about them? If it's a quick question sure but otherwise I'd go to #electronics

[west dust]

Mainly looking to see if anyone's used one lately. I just got a few and want to start using them, and all the documentation is abandoned by intel/from 2017

[hasty sphinx]

OK? But where it it? Not sitting on my front porch like where it says it was delivered.

Been home all day.

[fading glacier]

signature maybe?

[agile chasm]

My Ventus 3080 came with this MSi support bracket. Yet the screw-in part for the back overlaps with the GPU itself. Should I just forgo the support bracket altogether in this case?

[fading glacier]

just use leggo blocks

[livid idol]

Yeah the support bracket is optional, a DIY option like Lego towers works just as well

[regal grail]

Gigabyte eagle oc vs zotac twin edge oc 3060s?

[fading glacier]

3060 not worth these days, get a 6600xt instead

[regal grail]

Does it matter which manufacturer?

[agile chasm]

I got a bit excited and didn't do anything software-wise like uninstalling drivers before plugging in my 3080. There was a 1060 in there previously. Am I okay to boot it up?

[livid idol]

Just not the MSI Mech

Most of the others are fine

[livid idol]

Should be fine, give it a few minutes to install the new card.

If you have problems later then you can always run DDU and clean it up

[agile chasm]

Gotcha. I was thinking about doing that regardless.

[livid idol]

That'll work at any point of the installation really, you could go straight to safe mode now and run it

[regal grail]

There's a 40-50 dollar different between a 6600xt and gigabyte 3060 on new egg. Is there much of a difference at the price point?

[livid idol]

Performance-wise the 6600 XT and 3060 are very close

Feature sets on the AMD cards are pretty comparable to Nvidia features now

[regal grail]

Ya the main difference I found was on ray tracing

[livid idol]

The only difference might be if you want to do streaming, Nvidia has a better encoder for that

[fading glacier]

ray tracing is non existant on cards at that level

[livid idol]

RT sucks in general and is not worth the current performance hit

[regal grail]

Gotcha. Thanks

[fading glacier]

activating rt on a 3060 could translate from 90 fps to 20fps

[livid idol]

Maybe in the next gen it'll be better, as more game studios learn how to properly leverage the RT hardware and make it actually look decent

[fading glacier]

and ultimately you wont notice major difference (besides performance hit) on rasterization vs rt

[regal grail]

Thanks. I didn't think RT was that big of a deal but I wasn't sure

[livid idol]

You have to look pretty closely to notice a difference yeah, and know exactly what to look for. Usually you'll only see differences in side-by-side photos.

[regal grail]

What's wrong with the msi mech? Same price as the asrock challenger on Newegg rn

[livid idol]

Just a bad cooler design, it overheats unless it has a fan blowing directly into it

[regal grail]

Oh yikes. Thanks lol

Pity it's a great price rn (340 w a rebate) but I always worry about cooling anyways so that's good to know

[agile chasm]

I'm getting a VGA LED boot error on my mobo with the RTX 3080 freshly plugged in

[livid idol]

Clear CMOS
Unplug/replug GPU power
Reseat in the slot

[agile chasm]

What is CMOS?

[livid idol]

https://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/support/articles/000025368/processors.html

It says Intel but applies to all

[agile chasm]

Okay. Will do. Yeah it's just not giving any signs of life so far. Are there any power leds or do the fans spin on start up with the RTX 3080 ventus?

[livid idol]

Oh no you got Ventus

🔥

[agile chasm]

Uh oh.

[fading glacier]

you can also try to plug your gpu on the other pci slot

maybe is the slot, who knows

[agile chasm]

The other pci slot gets in the way of the sata plug ins on the mobo.

[agile chasm]

Go on...

[fading glacier]

yeah but its for testing purposes

[livid idol]

Ventus 3x 3060 ti overheats lol, and that's the same cooler

[fading glacier]

you dont need the sata to get a post

[agile chasm]

Gotcha.

[livid idol]

Nope, that's the "cheap out on everything we can" model

Fans might spin for a second once post completes

[fading glacier]

the good ol' ventus card

[vital oriole]

Hm, try to find older version of the gpu driver. It could be likely that the latest version has issues with the game.

[agile chasm]

Cleared CMOS and still a VGA led. No signal on boot up to my monitor.

What is post?

[livid idol]

Ok, check both ends of the power cables

Power On Self Test

[regal grail]

So for a 6600xt ASRock is a good manufacturer?

[livid idol]

The board checks if all the hardware is functioning enough to try to boot

[livid idol]

Yeah they're fine, the cheap model is just ok but others are good

[fading glacier]

post is the initial screen when you turn on your pc

checking ram, cpu, drives, everything

[livid idol]

That's a splash screen, it happens after post

Screen is off during post

[fading glacier]

i mean, the splash screen is whats you get if the post was successuful

[agile chasm]

So the CPU error boot led turns on for a sec and then clicks off then the VGA LED clicks on

[fading glacier]

because cpu passed

but vga dont

[regal grail]

It's MSI, ASRock or XFX Speedster for around the same price on Newegg

[fading glacier]

could be the card, could be the slot, could be the psu

[agile chasm]

So these two are the ones going to the 3080.

It needs both, correct?

[fading glacier]

the 8 pin part goes to the psu and the 6+2 to the card

[agile chasm]

It's a brand new PSU as well.

OH

OH NO

I had the 8 going to the GPU

And the 6+2 to the PSU.

That's the issue, huh?

Could that have hurt the card at all...?

[regal grail]

Also PowerColor on Amazon if that's a better brand

[fading glacier]

not sure about that really

maybe, maybe not, try pluggin them the right way to see if it boots

[livid idol]

Probably not, it just won't turn on

[agile chasm]

I was really scared, that's a relief. Let's hope it works.

Once I re-cable this all.

[livid idol]

Asrock or XFX, whichever you like the look more of

[regal grail]

Ty sir

[livid idol]

Might be worth the extra $10 for the MSI Gaming X, that's a top model

https://www.gamestop.com/pc-gaming/pc-components/video-cards/products/msi-radeon-rx-6600-xt-gaming-x-8g-graphics-card/337135.html

[quartz gull]

Someone talk me out of this

I already have a 3070

[livid idol]

80 ti is barely better than the 80

[quartz gull]

At 4K even?

[livid idol]

Yes

[quartz gull]

Vram be darned?

[livid idol]

You can get a 80 12gb for $800

[quartz gull]

OOOO

I forgot they made the stupid 12GB version

[livid idol]

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/HyRYcf/zotac-geforce-rtx-3080-12gb-lhr-12-gb-gaming-trinity-oc-video-card-zt-a30820j-10plhr

[fading glacier]

you can get even the 6900xt as low as 850 usd

[regal grail]

OK I guess the mech is the only msi with a heating issue?

[quartz gull]

Okay maybe this is good idea

Sell my 3070 for $450-500?

[livid idol]

OR https://pcpartpicker.com/product/YfvdnQ/gigabyte-radeon-rx-6900-xt-16-gb-gaming-oc-video-card-gv-r69xtgamingoc16gd

[fading glacier]

i approve an evga card any day of the week

[livid idol]

$730 for a 6900 XT

-$50 MIR tho

[quartz gull]

I max ray tracing in my games so idk

[fading glacier]

i wont fall in your trap fal, not goin to sold my card for that beauty

no

[livid idol]

Ew RT

[fading glacier]

[quartz gull]

I play at 30 fps some games mwahahahahahaha

[fading glacier]

ew

[quartz gull]

Eye candy be darned

[fading glacier]

just... ew

raster is as good as rt, most of the time you cant tell the difference

like that ltt video where the whole crew was pitted against 2 pcs with rt on and off

funny as hell

[livid idol]

That was great yeah

And when they did the refresh rate blind test

[fading glacier]

that one was pretty good as well

[livid idol]

And only one of the crew could reliably tell the difference between 144Hz and 360Hz

[fading glacier]

its like everything above 165hz is pretty difficult if not impossible to notice if you dont have some background experience

like pato playing csgo at 400fps

[quartz gull]

I don't even notice much of a difference between 90 and 144 tbh

Anything over 90 just feel nice

[livid idol]

I went from 1080p 75Hz to 1440p 165Hz and it's night and day to me

[quartz gull]

https://youtu.be/maqLX05hMuQ
They don't seem to be that far off, I think I'd be happy with this purchase

[fading glacier]

6900xt is a great performer at a low price

[livid idol]

They've had a couple big driver updates since February that increased performance on AMD

[fading glacier]

and amd is steadily pumping qol drivers and features for their cards

[livid idol]

RSR

[vital oriole]

hm

[fading glacier]

i mean, im tempted to sell mine to get a 6900xt

extremely tempted

[vital oriole]

do i need 1000w to power 4 3060ti's?

it's gonna be for mining

[fading glacier]

da hell bro

oh

[vital oriole]

it won't be put under load that makes it consume a lot lol

[fading glacier]

undervolting it should be ok

[quartz gull]

Mining now? You kinda missed the bubble XD

[vital oriole]

well it's my mom

not even my money

[livid idol]

Nah those are what, ~175W when mining?

[vital oriole]

alright

[fading glacier]

kinda

[vital oriole]

850w should be fine?

[fading glacier]

170-180

[vital oriole]

or can i go lower

[fading glacier]

ill set my bar at 850

[vital oriole]

im not trying to cheap out and also don't wanna spend a lot

[livid idol]

Oh actually I'm seeing 130W mining on those

Lower than I thought

[vital oriole]

ye

im thinking of maybe 3060? but idk

do they even reach same hashrate as 3060ti?

[livid idol]

No 3060 is way less than the ti

[vital oriole]

even with lhr unlock im only seeing around 40-50 mh/s

[livid idol]

It mines like a 2070

[vital oriole]

yeah nah, i won't go that route

i kinda wanna have a chassis but i'll have to leave it bare cause i don't trust those risers

[livid idol]

650W would be bare minimum for a quad 60 ti mining rig so I'd do 750W for headroom

[vital oriole]

gettin that h510 long mobo lol

but there's no chassis made for it

[livid idol]

3D printer time

[vital oriole]

tfw i got none

is it okay if i leave it bare?

[livid idol]

Make a cad file and have someone print it for you

[vital oriole]

my desk is like a shelf, i can put the board there

on top of its box

[livid idol]

Yeah it's technically fine bare, just lay it on cardboard or something non-conductive like that

[vital oriole]

alright

what do you think about the risers that lets me use two additional 6 pin connectors on top of sata?

they should be good enough for a 3060ti i think

[livid idol]

For power? Avoid the sata ones and go molex

[vital oriole]

well this one has sata and two 6 pin

[livid idol]

How many sata connectors per cable would that be

[vital oriole]

only one lol

[livid idol]

So the PSU has sata with only one per cable?

Or you'd be using only one per cable to the PSU?

[vital oriole]

it's something like this

[livid idol]

Oh that's what you mean

[vital oriole]

ye

[livid idol]

Yeah the 6 pin is for slot power

[vital oriole]

im thinking of powering the cards with two 6 pin per card

[livid idol]

idk why that one has 2

Oh AND a molex

[vital oriole]

cause the psu im getting has 6 6+2

which is exactly enough for 4 cards

wait nvm

my math is wrong lmao

do i go riserless without chassis, or riser with chassis?

[regal grail]

Anyone know how long the fatnastech sale on Newegg is?

[livid idol]

It varies by item

[regal grail]

I'm between a gigabyte eagle oc 3060 or an msi 6600xt gaming x gpu

3060 is 10 bucks more

But I've narrowed down what I would get to those two

[vital oriole]

hm

it's hard to pick

but if you want rt

3060 is the way to go

[livid idol]

RT on the 3060 is terrible though

[vital oriole]

tru

[fading glacier]

yeah

[regal grail]

Amazon has a zotac twin edge 3060 for same as the 6600 but idk how it compares w gigabyte

[vital oriole]

and 6600xt is a tad better

zotac 3060 is fine

it's just a 3060, it doesn't need much cooling

[regal grail]

Hmm tough choice ig

[vital oriole]

for the same price i would just gun it and go 3060

[regal grail]

If the fantastech deal remains i might sleep on it and decide tomorrow

The zotac should be the same price tomorrow for Amazon day

Idk about gamestop, doubt they'd change price overnight

[vital oriole]

i doubt it

unless they specifically state it's a one day deal

or something

[fading glacier]

it will last to july 15th

[vital oriole]

nice

[regal grail]

One advantage w the amd is I get a code for free games on the website

[livid idol]

The sale itself will but individual items will go out of stock or sales end early all the time

[vital oriole]

oh yeah amd does have free games

[regal grail]

Raise the gsme bundle offer

Tho idk if any are good

[vital oriole]

forgot about that

what games are they?

i haven't caught up to these stuff

[regal grail]

Hmm it looks like sniper elite 5, forsaken and saints row

6600xt doesn't come w sniper elite 5 actually so just the other two

[vital oriole]

hm

meh tbh

[regal grail]

Ya lol

[vital oriole]

it's fine but nothing interesting

[regal grail]

Honestly sniper elite 5 seemed most interesting to me

I've heard of saints row, but I know nothing about it

[fading glacier]

man the asrock oc at 850 is very tempting

[vital oriole]

but free games is still free games

so 6600xt is the choice

[regal grail]

Lol ikr

Honestly the 6600xt looked kinda better on side by side comparisons with the 3060

Maybe in my head

[vital oriole]

it is

6600xt is faster than 3060 by a bit

just worse rt but 3060 also has trash rt anyway

[regal grail]

Right

[vital oriole]

if you can raise your budget, 6650xt is also nice

leaves the gap from 3060 even more apart lol

[regal grail]

I'll check the pricing

[fading glacier]

or save a lil more and go directly to 3070 or 6800xt 😛

[regal grail]

😩😩😩

[vital oriole]

they're around 399, but the deals are probably lowering them

[fading glacier]

yeah, bad advice on my part

try to get the most of the fantastech while it last

6650xt could be a nice jump for a few more bucks

[regal grail]

Xfx speedster 6650 cheaper than both

That's cuz I was looking at a lil nicer 6600xt

Msi gaming x 6650xt is 400 w rebate on newegg

[vital oriole]

yeah i would go for 6650xt instead

[wheat crag]

Did they change the thermal pads in the 3080 12gb model? Or is it still the crappy ones

[vital oriole]

more worth it

[regal grail]

20 bucks more basically

Not bad

(20 bucks more if I go w msi gaming x model)

[vital oriole]

just stick with the xfx

[regal grail]

As long as it cools good I'm good ig

[vital oriole]

ye it's a decent model

6650xt performs like 2080

[regal grail]

So you don't think the nicer msi is worth it?

[vital oriole]

while the 6600xt is around 2070

eh nope

the msi isn't that much nicer

[livid idol]

The pads really only matter for mining

[regal grail]

It looks nicer tho 😭

Xfx is 10 bucks cheaper on Amazon dang lol

[zealous salmon]

Is there really a difference between Gigabyte 3070 eagle vs Gigabyte 3070 gaming?

[livid idol]

Besides the Gaming OC model having a higher factory overclock, no not really

[zealous salmon]

Ok Thnx!

[ivory herald]

If they say V1 or V2, try to get the V2 ones. Let's just say the V1 (eagle) have power port issues.

[livid idol]

V1 is honestly hard to find now since it's non-lhr

[velvet grail]

How safe is it to disassemble a GPU? I've never repasted one and have no experience

I'm really careful with components so...

[wheat crag]

Really safe

Depends on card but is usually easy

Just unscrewing some stuff and rescrewing

Along with unplugging some rgb and fan cables

[hasty sphinx]

Did it work? I must know!

[livid idol]

Just don't rip the thermal pads and you're fine, no more risky than repasting a CPU

[hasty sphinx]

How would one rip the thermals pads? For future reference.

[livid idol]

They'd either rip apart or split in pieces, depending on the pads used

[ivory herald]

they're like sticks of gum

[livid idol]

Just be careful pulling the cooler off

[hasty sphinx]

So sticky on both sides?

[livid idol]

Yes

[hasty sphinx]

Ok

[velvet grail]

Can the usb C on the 2080 be used as a video output for usb c monitor?

Or usb c to hdmi...

[heady turtle]

Ye

[velvet grail]

Wee

[agile chasm]

It did! The problem was definitely switching up the 8-pin and 6+2 pin connectors 💀

[wicked hound]

Ripped thermal pads can still generally be used. Won't be ideal tho.

[quartz gull]

I have made an irrational decision

[regal grail]

So my old gpu has the old school screw in adapter. Just got a 6650xt, what cable do I need for my monitor (it's hdmi in)

[livid idol]

Do you mean VGA or DVI? Is that all your monitor supports?

After rereading your message you're saying the monitor has HDMI right? Then all you need is a HDMI cable.

[regal grail]

Ya I went with an hdmi to display port for the gpu

My old one had a dvi plug but the new gpu don't have those anymore

My monitor only has hdmi so I got hdmi/display port

[velvet grail]

6650xt should have at least 1 hdmi and 3 dp

[regal grail]

Ye ty. Should be good. Bummed my monitor only has hdmi but surely it's fine

[cerulean sinew]

Is it normal for GPU-fans to stop spinning? / spin in periods?

[woeful stump]

during idle?

[cerulean sinew]

ye, just using web rn

[keen nacelle]

Yes

[fading glacier]

they only spin at workloads, and web browsing.... well... they dont need to spin, its a feature to prevent dust buildup

[cerulean sinew]

so 50°C is normal for being idle/using web

[odd siren]

Yes

[fading glacier]

y

[cerulean sinew]

aight aight

[fading glacier]

under load you should go to 70-80

[cerulean sinew]

thanks

[woeful stump]

So I've been searching for info for 5700xt mech oc for thermal pads sizes but nada

Even went to msi website

Nada

[velvet grail]

https://youtu.be/iftqvdRFA7s

Here you also have a tutorial if you want to disassemble, but the answer is 2mm pads

[woeful stump]

I watched that video thanks.

[molten river]

The speed of my gpu is correct, it is almost to the top that can happen to my graphics, it is good or bad, it helps.

[fading glacier]

if everything is correct, then whats the question?

[quartz gull]

You do want your GPU to be running close to your max boost clock, yes

I didn't expect the 12GB 3080 to be so much faster than the 3070, games where I was 45-50 fps at 4K are literally pushing 70! That's amazing

[keen nacelle]

4k gaming is a meme

[brisk flame]

for now

[solemn panther]

Yes

[quartz gull]

I'm sitting a foot away from my 28 inch monitor as well

Probably no difference than 1440p at that distance

[normal hawk]

Says someone who can't play games in 4k

[keen nacelle]

I prefer 150 fps at 1080p to 60fps at 4k, while spending 2k more

[normal hawk]

Skyrim only goes up to 60fps regardless of your resolution

same with plenty of other games that tie your framerate to functions

Invincibility frames, physics, player speed, etc

Then in open world RPG's as long as you get consistent frames thats all that matters.

[ivory herald]

Triple digit fps superiority gang.

[normal hawk]

Just over 1.5ft is optimal for that size and resolution.

[normal hawk]

With DLSS or fsr I get triple digits on 4k in the games I play not on the ultrawide (or if they are locked at 60fps) :p

With DLSS set to performance at 4k ultra. Horizon zero dawns benchmark is at an average of 84. And I think that's the worst performing game I have besides Star citizen

[quartz gull]

They just hating on the resolution

[hasty sphinx]

Because they can't afford a good 4k monitor

[fading glacier]

not that we cant, but because is a waste. You can get almost the same experience on 2k for half the price

plus 3 digits fps 👍

[quartz gull]

"same experience"

Have you even played at 4K

[fading glacier]

saw 4k gaming on a friend pc some time ago, looks beautiful, but 45 fps are a effin no

[wheat crag]

Idk about y’all but I get like 110 fps on war zone at 8k when I raised resolution to like 200% on a 4k tv

[velvet grail]

What GPU do you use?

[wheat crag]

3090

[velvet grail]

3090 should get 80fps on 4k lol

[wheat crag]

I think I had dlss on

[velvet grail]

You mean Pacific map or Rebirth?

[wheat crag]

Rebirth

[velvet grail]

Ah

[velvet grail]

Rebirth map is much easier to handle for the GPU

[wheat crag]

Yea

The other maps suck

Since they removed verdansk

[wheat crag]

I don’t think so

Prob still averages above the 100s

[velvet grail]

On rebirth is easy to get 110-120 at 4k with 3090

[velvet grail]

(Pacific Map)

[wheat crag]

I’m talking about war zone

[hasty sphinx]

May be a waste to you, but what you like may be a waste to someone else. So.. saying its waste is redundant.

[wheat crag]

I’ll check it later to make sure

[velvet grail]

Anyway you playing 8k
Is your monitor/tv 8k?

[wheat crag]

Nope

It’s 4k

But u can increase the resolution scale

In games

[velvet grail]

Then why upscale to 8k

[wheat crag]

Just to see

[velvet grail]

See what?

Lol

[wheat crag]

The fps

I was curious if the 3090 was good at 8k

[velvet grail]

If you upscale to 8k just to play 4k you don't get good FPS increase

[fading glacier]

upscaled 4k =/= 8k

[hasty sphinx]

That elitist attitude that people get when someone likes something that someone has deemed as "waste" is so abundant here.

[fading glacier]

ehhhh... ok? we were sharing opinions, if you feel attacked by any chance then im sorry to you man

[hasty sphinx]

I don't feel attacked. No worries.

[wheat crag]

Well I would average above 200 fps rebirth at 4k and quality dlss

[hasty sphinx]

I just don't like when people get dogged on because they like something.

[wheat crag]

I was cpu bottleneck tho

[fading glacier]

well, wasnt targetted at you man, as i said, we were sharing opinions

im not forcing my opinions on anyone

[velvet grail]

Ok
With 8k upscale?
Image quality will be not super good but it's your pc you do what you want

[hasty sphinx]

My comment wasn't directed at you personally.

[fading glacier]

e_e

[wheat crag]

I’m just saying bro

And image quality is basically the same at higher res, edit it looks bad at lower res like 2k and 1080p

[velvet grail]

Yeah but upscaling to 8k could be just unnecessary. You could try upscaled 4k at this point?

Or just 4k

If that gives you good performance

[wheat crag]

Dlss actually brought my gpu temp down a bit at 4k bc I was bottlenecked lol

[velvet grail]

It looks strange that upscaled 8k gives better FPS than native 4k

[wheat crag]

I was talking about upscaled 4k

My bad

[velvet grail]

yeh, that FPS for upscaled 8k seems strange to me

Lol

[magic wing]

https://wccftech.com/amd-amf-encoder-receives-crucial-update-now-even-rivals-nvidia-nvenc/amp/

[vital oriole]

nice

b-frames came back

a very needed feature

[hasty sphinx]

My 2070s came in today. Should I ddu my 1650s drivers? If so, before or after I swap gpus?

[hot folio]

Before

[hasty sphinx]

Thank you

[sonic mural]

Both Nvidia GPUs so also can just drop in the new one

[hasty sphinx]

Without ddu?

[sonic mural]

Sure

[magic wing]

I wouldnt recommend that

[sonic mural]

If you were switching from Nvidia to amd or vice versa, then I'd def reccomend ddu

[magic wing]

Feature sets for different generations are different

[hasty sphinx]

Ddu doesn't take too long so may as well do it anyways

[magic wing]

depending on how the installer works, some things might get misconfigured

[opaque stump]

https://www.newegg.com/gigabyte-geforce-rtx-3050-gv-n3050aorus-e-8gd/p/N82E16814932513?Item=N82E16814932513

im building a new pc, im new to pc building and new egg selected this graphics card for me. Is it good? if not, please anything good, i have a 1000-1200 budget for this build

[keen nacelle]

PC Builder - Intel Core i5-12400F, Radeon RX 6650 XT, Phanteks Ecli...

Wait

God damn it

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/N9wfFg

There

Id do that, build courtesy of alec

[opaque stump]

thanks

[keen nacelle]

If you want to spend a bit more, could fit in a 6700xt

Or 3070

[keen nacelle]

I'm sorry, id actually do this https://pcpartpicker.com/list/KY2MTn

Not a huge difference, case is a bit ugly

So if you care about looks get the other one

[smoky cloud]

Would you rather have a 2070 super or a 3060

[keen nacelle]

2070s

It's a bit better

3060 comparable to a 2070

[sonic mural]

Depends on price and models and new/used tbf too

Guessing the 2070 super would be used

[tall lichen]

Apparently the 2070 super is better than a 3060

Speaking of which is a 550w enough for a 2070 Super?

[sonic mural]

Which unit?

[tall lichen]

What do you mean which unit?

[cerulean rover]

What PSU

[sonic mural]

What specific power supply model?

[tall lichen]

IIRC EVGA 550w Silver

No wait it's corsair nvrmnd

Corsair 550m

[keen nacelle]

Cxf?

[tall lichen]

Cxf?

[fading glacier]

the model

cx550? cv550?

things like that

[tall lichen]

CX

[keen nacelle]

Cx is B tier I believe

Fine for a 2070s, if I'm remembering right

Assuming you're not running some stupidly high wattage cpu like a thread ripper or 12900ks

[tall lichen]

9600k for me

[keen nacelle]

Yeah you'll be fine

And toure sure it's the regular cx, not cxm?

Cxm is meh

Cxf and cx are fine

[tall lichen]

It says CX 550M

[keen nacelle]

Cxm

Mmm

It's c tier, so I guess it's not horrible, but not a great unit

I'll let @sonic mural give a final say on this

[fading glacier]

not great, not terrible

[keen nacelle]

Since I'm not familiar with what issues the cxm has

It could be some small things, could be something detrimental

[tall lichen]

Well it's lasted me this far

[keen nacelle]

I had an E tier psu last for a few months for me

About 5 I think

It's literally exploded for some other people

C tiers won't explode, or else they'd be much further down

[cerulean rover]

Cxm whiney

[keen nacelle]

Ah, so just noise

[cerulean rover]

More often than not it gets coil whine

Internals are generally lower quality than CX

Worse voltreg kinda thing, small things but meh

[keen nacelle]

You think it'll be fine for a 2070s

?

[tall lichen]

I don't hear any noise

[cerulean rover]

Fine, yea, it wouldn't be optimal though

[keen nacelle]

I think it will, but didn't want to give an answer without knowing fs

Eh, system probably will peak at 400 max

[tall lichen]

In that case how could would a 1080ti suffice?

[cerulean rover]

Same thing

[tall lichen]

Hmmm

[keen nacelle]

I'd get 2070s over 1080 ti if same price

Or if 2070s is cheaper

[tall lichen]

Right

Especially since they're cheaper than an RX6600xt on Ebay

[fading glacier]

oofff ebay

[keen nacelle]

whats the budget for the gpu?

and do you live in the US?

[tall lichen]

Honestly less than around 360 USD

[keen nacelle]

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/NDvdnQ/xfx-radeon-rx-6650-xt-8-gb-speedster-swft-210-core-video-card-rx-665x8dfdy

beats a 2070s

[tall lichen]

Wow. I'm shocked

Like actually surprised

[keen nacelle]

ye, its a good deal

good model too

if you really need cheaper, 6600 is $280, but imo its very worth it for that 6650xt

[tall lichen]

I get it buuuuuut I want dem frames

[keen nacelle]

ye, thats a great price on the 6650xt

[tall lichen]

Mhm

I assume that should I get it it should be compatible with my PSU

[keen nacelle]

yeah

pretty sure it uses less power than a 2070s

ill fact check myself on that

actually pretty much the same

5w higher lol

[tall lichen]

oh no uwu

[sonic mural]

Callin me out because I have a whiny cxm that is whiny as hell? xD

[keen nacelle]

oh you do?

lmao

just pinged you since you had talked a moment before

[sonic mural]

It's a 2017 650w

Yeah I got busy for a bit

Mine whines a bit but I can't blame it when 5700xt pulls 325-350w through a daisy chained pcie cable

Cwt project Santana moment

[wicked hound]

daisy chained cable will barely do anything in terms of whine

[sonic mural]

Yeah ofc just pointing out

It would whine regardless

Luckily it's somewhat quiet for whine so I can't hear it over the sound of my crappy uphere fan's bearings going out

[woeful stump]

Is it normal for the fans to go past 3000rom?

I tweaked a Lil overclock and undervolt

To reduce temps at junction

It worked but fans go mad wild pass 3000rpm

[ivory herald]

cpu, gpu, truck down the street?? None of my fans incl gpu hit over 1400rpm too often. rightside colum is max, left is current.

[woeful stump]

Gpu 5700xt

Was in the 2k range. After changing a couple settings. Temps are down but fans buck wild.

[livid idol]

Is that a single fan blower model? 3k is pretty common in those, sounds like a jet engine

[keen nacelle]

its a mech

[sonic mural]

oc version, at that

[woeful stump]

Yeah mech oc

It's all melow. But the fans sound like something from 2056

Just wondering if that's normal

[sonic mural]

Sounds about normal for a mech oc

I'd undervolt it tho and tune fan curve if you want a bit quieter operation

[woeful stump]

It's undervolted and orverclocked.

If that makes any sense.

Just running for now to see if wattman has any issues

[wheat crag]

How much better are the 4000 series card supposed to be compared to the 30 series?

[vital oriole]

probably 50% at best

50% in gpu world is a lot

or tech rather

[wheat crag]

Like a 50% uplift from the 3090?

Or all the cards

[vital oriole]

ye, 4090 vs 3090

others probably gonna have less gains

but it's still gonna be a good gain

[wheat crag]

I’m prob gonna stick with my gpu and wait for the 5000 series

[vital oriole]

radeon seems to be coming out with something very good tho

nvidia might be meh next gen

[wheat crag]

Maybe

Will be kind of interesting to see amd cards

[heady turtle]

4090 is supposed to be 2x 3090 iirc from the leaks

[wheat crag]

Idk if it’s official but this cooler looks so Chomsky

https://www.digitaltrends.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/06/Nvidia-RTX-3090-Ti-render.jpg?p=1

[velvet grail]

That card is THICC

[wheat crag]

Looks like the 3090 ti Ftw 3 on tren

I can’t imagine how those things will look in a case

[velvet grail]

4 video output is unacceptable
We need at least 12

[velvet grail]

No more micro ATX/itx

I guess it is 6cm thicc

[wheat crag]

4090 ti

Stolen test sample jk

[velvet grail]

I've saw that video and it was...
Yeah
You know

A chaos

[hot folio]

I’d laugh so hard if they decided to make a 4090 water cooled only

[vital oriole]

Bungholio marks is best benchmark

[fossil talon]

Haha should I make a version of a 4090

In SolidWorks

[velvet grail]

A friend of mine has a problem with his pc, 1660s evga 700w bq, 5600x. Basically when he opens a game the GPU gives a black screen and fans go 100% speed. There could be many reasons for this, the ones that make most sense are: faulty PSU or either faulty GPU. He tried everything possible except for undervolt/ lowering GPU clock. He also made a stress test on his GPU and 12v line spikes to 12.2v (dont know if this is good or could be related to a bad PSU)
How can he know what's the problem?

[rich cedar]

Dayum thats thiccccc

Youd need like a support bracket for that thing

[rustic pulsar]

Are they even trying to improve performance/watt. Looks like they just doubled the core count lol

[solemn panther]

4090ti will be a 5-6 slot card

Very nice

[livid idol]

Yes they are, a little at least. Reports are the 4070 should match the 3090 at 300W.

[rustic pulsar]

Happy to hear that 🙂

[modest stump]

Should I get a 3080 12gb

Friend is buying my 2080suoer

[keen nacelle]

if you want to, and have the money

though your psu might need an upgrade, depending on what it is

[modest stump]

It’s a nice Corsair 850w power supply

[vital oriole]

rm or rmx?

both should be decent, but im just curious

[modest stump]

I forget let me check

[livid idol]

Inb4 cxm

[vital oriole]

lol

[modest stump]

I think it’s the rm850x

The fully modular one

[vital oriole]

nice

[modest stump]

Oh wait

They’re both fully modular?

[livid idol]

Rm and RMx both are yes

[modest stump]

I’m confused now then

Lol

I’m not home so I can’t look at the box rn

[livid idol]

They're both good A tier units

[keen nacelle]

rm and rmx are pog

i ran a 6800xt on a 650 rmx without issue

[livid idol]

Meanwhile I'm tripping OCP on my rm850x, but those are some killer spikes off the 3080 ti

[heady turtle]

If they weren't people in NA would have to have 2 psu's on 2 seperate circuits lmao

[heady turtle]

Amd has less transients tho

[keen nacelle]

ye

[hot folio]

I’m running a 3080 12gb on an HX750 platinum

Along with a 5900x

[stark citrus]

3070s on newegg getting closer and closer to the true msrp of 500

[keen nacelle]

theyre aibs

they wont go down to 500

[ivory herald]

When/if they do, might be after a certain 40 series is out & a better value.

[modest stump]

Yeah but don’t you think 40 series will sell out very rapidly

[ivory herald]

Not really. I figure partly price & by then quite a few people will have snagged a 30 series instead.

[rich cedar]

This^^

[livid idol]

Quite the opposite, Nvidia has asked tsmc to cut back on wafer production because they have too many now. They refused, unless Nvidia can find a buyer for their portion which is unlikely. There's warehouses full of 30 series cards and they're probably delaying 40 series launch because of that.

We're looking at a November launch at the earliest now, possibly January. AMD is still on track for earlier.

[urban zenith]

So, I'm not well read on GPUs. I'm already hitting max FPS on the games I play and capped out for my current monitor. What benefit would I get from a new GPU?

[fading glacier]

nothing?

[odd siren]

Should upgrade your monitor as well if you want to really benefit

Otherwise it's almost on the level of placebo as frametimes are just a little more consistent

[urban zenith]

Thank you for that.

[normal hawk]

are you max settings getting that fps? or are you lowering settings to reach it, that could also be a benefit of upgrading.

[lunar dirge]

Hey all, just upgraded to a 3080 Ti from a 2080 Super. I run 3 monitors, 2x 32inch and 1x 27inch, all Gigabyte and all have a refresh rate of 165hz. After installing it, everything is running fine, but the memory clock is stuck at 1188, even at idle. I used NVIDIA Inspector application for the multi display power saver, but that doesn't seem to be an option anymore. Is there a way to get the memory clock to a normal speed at idle?

[rustic pulsar]

You could overclock it in MSI afterburner

You may be able to set a curve

Also check nvidia control panel and make sure ur on maximum performance for the power mode or whatever it’s called

[lunar dirge]

I have already changed the power mode settings in the control panel

Not real keen on OC, and wouldn't really know where to start with messing with the power curve

NVIDIA Inspector used to have the Multi Display Power Saver built into the application, but it isn't even a selectable option anymore

[rustic pulsar]

Also why do you want faster mem at idle? If it’s not doing anything… it should boost up during gameplay

[lunar dirge]

Isn't that bad for the card, to have the memory clock so high all the time?

[rustic pulsar]

Hang on let me check the default clock speed

[lunar dirge]

I don't want faster, I want it to be lower then 1188

[rustic pulsar]

1188 is on the lower end, that’s fine, it will clock down if it gets to hot

If you really want you could lower the clock speed in MSI afterburner but not really a reason to

[rustic pulsar]

Sorry, 1188 for mem is normal

[lunar dirge]

Ok, that seems a bit strange that it is so high

Can you provide where you found that?

[rustic pulsar]

https://www.techpowerup.com/gpu-specs/geforce-rtx-3080-ti.c3735

[lunar dirge]

Yeah I see that now...if I have the ASUS ROG Strix, but that shouldn't matter?

[rustic pulsar]

Your gpu mem is almost always in use, at least a bit, so it will always be used and it will just go to the default clock speed if you haven’t changed it (I think -not 100% sure)

[rustic pulsar]

No, mem speed is typically constant between models, it’s the core clock that can change

[lunar dirge]

ok cool

[rustic pulsar]

Trust me ur gpu won’t kill itself

[lunar dirge]

Yeah the core clock is sitting at a low 225, which was lower then my 2080

Thanks for your help!

Getting ready to boot up a game to test it out

[rustic pulsar]

Don’t compare clock speeds between differ GPUs, it’s a completely different chip with different architecture

Same goes for CPUs

[lunar dirge]

Yeah I know, just comparing the idle speeds from my old card. My 2080 super would run at 1700 at idle, so I used NVIDIA Inspector's MDPS to keep it down to 645

I am not running MDPS now, and this is card is running at a lower idle speed....so that is a good thing

Thanks again for your help and reassurance

[rustic pulsar]

Happy to help : )

[lunar dirge]

Ok so I booted up a game to test it out, and it runs fine, but now the GPU clock will not go lower then 1815 at idle, it was just 225

[rustic pulsar]

What’s the usage

[lunar dirge]

Nevermind, I figured out the NVIDIA Inspector issue. Was able to active MDPS within NVIDIA Inspector and got both memory and core clock to come down

[rustic pulsar]

Check afternoon, don’t use task manager

Afterburner*

[lunar dirge]

I use GPUZ and it is now showing 4%

[rustic pulsar]

Yeah GPUZ is good, is the core clock down?

[lunar dirge]

Yeah now that I turned on MDPS in NVIDIA Inspector

But now I have the annoying flicker

Found the issue, one of my monitors refresh rate was set at 120, changed it to 144 and no more flicker\

[fading glacier]

been a while since the last time i was with my ol' trusty pal

:3

had to rollback to an older driver, but seems like ages since i heard it whine, almost a tear to my eye

[magic wing]

!ddu

[dreamy dragon]

DDU (Display Driver Uninstaller) Guide by Pato
https://github.com/NeweggTechie/Graphics-cards/wiki/How-to-use-DDU

[finite warren]

Why amd gpu drivers are not showing in device manager? I installed the drivers and it even shows in taskbar duiring statup n also in refresh menu..

[wheat crag]

No, it’s just that without a replacement of thermal pads it gets hot so yes

Gddr6x gets quite toasty with stock pads