graphics-cards

[keen nacelle]

Yeah

[odd siren]

3090 mobile instead

[keen nacelle]

4080 mobile would melt the laptop lmao

Well

Tbf

3080 scaled to laptop failed

[livid idol]

Dual brick lappy time

[odd siren]

Actually I can see 4060 mobile working out

[keen nacelle]

It's barely better than 3070 mobile of similar wattage

I also find it funny that 3080 mobile barely beats a stock 3060 ti

[odd siren]

If it's still like, no higher than 165w, 4060 mobile

[keen nacelle]

4070 mobile I think would be the same as 3080 mobile, as in it'll be too limited by the power to offer much over the 4060

Idk, guess we just have to wait and see

[odd siren]

Yeah I can see that too

But nvidia might've taken that from 30 mobile

[keen nacelle]

Just fun to talk and think about it

[odd siren]

Oo I am now the elite now

[keen nacelle]

Pog

[livid idol]

Now about those all Intel laptops...

[keen nacelle]

Lmao

Intel really did flop with their gpus

Though hopefully it'll set them up for their next generation

[odd siren]

Battlemage when

[livid idol]

"We launched a mobile GPU in China! That means we hit our target of a summer 2022 release!"

[restive grove]

back and I avoided repeating the Michael Jackson Pepsi promotional hair fire

[odd siren]

Kopium7kimi now saying 4090 can boost over 2750MHz

Lol

[restive grove]

850 Gold PSU's are pretty cheap now, except the Asus RGB models

Still won't touch another DOA Corsair modular PSU to save my life

So I'm looking at a Asus Tuf OC V2 12gb 3080 open box for 939.99

or a 10gb version open box for 829.99

or a Ebay OC 10gb version for 699.99

[odd siren]

You've got the gaming z trio 12gb for 829.99 new

Or the ventus 12gb new for 769.99

TUF OC is nice but not worth 110 more

[restive grove]

Sadly it's a themed PC

Mobo, monitor, Keyboard, mouse, and video is themed Asus Tuf

Same is true of the MSI and Asus systems the kids have

[odd siren]

What resolution is the tuf monitor?

[restive grove]

So their PNY, Gigabyte, and Asus 1060's get retired

it's the 2k 32 inch model

[odd siren]

Ok

[restive grove]

https://www.asus.com/Displays-Desktops/Monitors/TUF-Gaming/TUF-Gaming-VG32AQL1A/

[keen nacelle]

Gold means nothing

[restive grove]

@keen nacelle so you are saying I can finally feel good about my https://www.apexgaming.info/products/apexgaming-ag-850m-850w-80-gold-fully-modular-power-supply

[keen nacelle]

Also, don't buy an asus tuf power supply for a 3080

[keen nacelle]

I literally just told you

Gold means nothing

That psu is a literal bomb

There are platinum psus that are ass

And bronze psus that are amazing

There are more to psus than wattage and rating

[restive grove]

Its older and still going vs two newer Corsair PSU's lol, at least I was smart enough to warranty the 2nd and swapped it for a EVGA

[keen nacelle]

Like talking to a wall

I'm out

[restive grove]

Good

The only reason PSU's came up is because of the RTX 4k series new power cabling and requirements

[keen nacelle]

Your point?

[sonic mural]

Only requirement will be ocp and wattage

[keen nacelle]

That doesn't change anything that I said

[fading glacier]

to enrage bacca senpai is a feat on itself

[sonic mural]

Not too many new requirements

[keen nacelle]

I'm not mad, im just annoyed

[restive grove]

Thanks for settling the 10 vs 12Gb dilemma

[keen nacelle]

I dont get the point of denying facts

[normal hawk]

its okay forggy

[sonic mural]

Hi Just Annoyed, I'm Dad

[fading glacier]

man these days are soo lame... no hardware news for like forever

[woeful stump]

Sooooo anyone gpus ever got so hot 🔥 they shut off?

[fading glacier]

wake me up when september hits

[normal hawk]

Plenty of handheld hardware news

[keen nacelle]

No, that's bad

[normal hawk]

6800u is sick

[keen nacelle]

6000 series apus are pog

[sonic mural]

5700xt reference had that issue at launch

[woeful stump]

Yeah mine just did while playing valheim

[keen nacelle]

What case and gpu do you have

[restive grove]

Newegg doesn't have a HOTAS section so I'll go to that discord after my video/monitor purchases/installation, oh And I forgot I need video card braces

[woeful stump]

Musetex or sum like that 5700xt meck oc

[keen nacelle]

Mech oc

[fading glacier]

video card braces?

o.O

[keen nacelle]

That would make sense

I would undervolt it

[woeful stump]

Oh my heard that earlier I feel bad

Lol

I did but some just ain't right with it

[keen nacelle]

...gpu sag brackets?

[odd siren]

Repaste?

[woeful stump]

Yeah that n undervolt

[fading glacier]

just use some leggo blocks and call it a day

[woeful stump]

I have this hammer I'm itching to swing

[fading glacier]

or an e-leash

[keen nacelle]

Could also sell it and get a new gpu...

Make it someone else's problem

Thanks auto correct

[odd siren]

Idk does a deshrouded 5700XT help with like p12s

Selling is indeed probably better

[fading glacier]

you want to redneck engineering your oww cooling solution?

damn son

[keen nacelle]

People do that a lot

[woeful stump]

I do have a working 6700xt but, but needs a new hdmi port

[keen nacelle]

There's aftermarket cooling shrouds

[odd siren]

It does work generally but idk specifically 5700XT mech

[keen nacelle]

How did you manage that one

[woeful stump]

3 year old wandered near that pc full of rbg....u know the rest

[fading glacier]

well that could be your fault if your pc was at the floor level

same happen with pets

[woeful stump]

Yeah well no room on desk for now so floor it sleeps

[sonic mural]

👶 🚶 🖥️ ⚡⚡⚡⚡⚡

[fading glacier]

in fact im a pro activist against pcs at the floor

[sonic mural]

This explain the situation?

[keen nacelle]

Pc on floor should be a crime

[fading glacier]

like, be proud of what you built, show it in a place of pride

[restive grove]

@fading glacierBtw the Funko Pops are enough for the toddlers to attack a pc, no way in the world am I enticing them with Lego

[fading glacier]

you dont put trophies on the floor right?

[keen nacelle]

...or just keep it out of their reach

[sonic mural]

Just to piss you off, I'm putting mine right on the high-pile carpet now

[keen nacelle]

I'm gonna throw a frog at you

[odd siren]

Not a forg???

[woeful stump]

It got 0 to 100 real quick

[fading glacier]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-6VGXLW6hWM

plz

[keen nacelle]

[restive grove]

Anyway I'm off to ferry stranded teenagers

Happy Hunting

[cerulean rover]

You know what my response to that is?

My PC is right beside the air vent, free cooling :p

[fading glacier]

oh gawd

[sonic mural]

I'm also in the vent

https://c.tenor.com/c2ect3bRK3cAAAAM/among-us.gif

[cerulean rover]

:p

[livid idol]

sus

[stark bear]

I need 3060 or 3070 gpu and cheaper
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/NP4bwc

[keen nacelle]

whats the total budget

[odd siren]

decent list but that psu is a bit eh for the gpu there

[stark bear]

1500 without monitor

[keen nacelle]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/YTQJtn

[odd siren]

you can fit a 6900xt on that forg

only 50 more

[keen nacelle]

is it?

[odd siren]

yea

[keen nacelle]

oh nice https://pcpartpicker.com/list/3nx3H2

[odd siren]

it should be alright with 12400f on that psu

[keen nacelle]

def

g6 can handle transients if needed anyways

[odd siren]

for 3070
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/GpCYLs

[keen nacelle]

asus tuf 650 for psu imo

[odd siren]

can ye for that

for 3060 recommended:
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/sFRWfv

[keen nacelle]

3060 not worth

[odd siren]

oh no not for psu

that's just the list for 3060

lol

my bad english

[keen nacelle]

what?

i mean 3060 gpu not worth

[odd siren]

if he wants a 3060 tho

def would minmax 1500 on a 6900XT but if they do want a 3070 or 3060 there's options

[keen nacelle]

6600xt

[odd siren]

true

actually yeah I'll change that

[livid idol]

Sheesh I never thought I'd see the day you could fit a 6900 XT into a $1500 build

[vital oriole]

yeah

[odd siren]

comfortably at that

[sonic mural]

You could always fit it in a $1500 build

$100 optiplex and an extra PSU + 6900xt?

[odd siren]

lol

[sonic mural]

Technically would work

[odd siren]

definitely the drag racer approach though

[sonic mural]

Smh it's just two Psu's in sli

[livid idol]

Not during the shortage when they were going for almost 2k

[odd siren]

1460-1475 you can fit 2tb of nvme in it

that's still with 32gb ram

it's pretty solid

[sonic mural]

Alibaba had em for ~$100...

[odd siren]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/MqGCDq

[sonic mural]

Spending the extra for OCF def worth if oc is a possibility

You'd be getting a god tier xtxh card

[keen nacelle]

6900xt in an mx330 hurts, its a good case but it still hurts my soul

[odd siren]

indeed actually that fits wth

[sonic mural]

Lancool 205 atleast imo

[odd siren]

you knock out the extra storage that fits with an ocf

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/PdKrmr

[wooden fern]

Hmm I think I can fit a white gpu in my budget, they can't be that much more expensive. 5 seconds later:

[normal hawk]

Do an all black no rgb build instead. they look better imo

[restive grove]

I hate RGB controllers myself

[finite fulcrum]

can you explain to me what wrong with 3060,and is 2060 better to buy then? thanks

[odd siren]

Nothing wrong with a 3060, it's just at that price for games the 6600XT is cheaper and faster overall in games. Ray tracing isn't decent enough at that level (putting aside whether RT is ever worth it rn)

There are cases where a 3060 makes sense, but I would really only pin that to budget workstation or production builds, maybe minecraft RTX specifically? But not really anything else that immediately comes to mind

[finite fulcrum]

thanks,is 2060 worth to buy?

[odd siren]

Not when a 6600 is cheaper new, but if you find it used at a decent price, say 180-200? It's not bad

But there is the argument that saving that extra 50 for the performance jump of a 6600 being worth it if you can

[finite fulcrum]

my budget is around 400 dollars

[odd siren]

And the psu you have rn?

[sage hemlock]

looking for a cheap card till the 40 series comes out... I have a budget of about $250-ish I foundhttps://www.evga.com/products/product.aspx?pn=08G-P5-3551-KR and https://www.evga.com/products/product.aspx?pn=06G-P4-1066-KR which one do you think would be better or is there a better card

[odd siren]

Those are both the same link, also this is what I'd suggest for 250: https://pcpartpicker.com/product/M9ytt6/msi-radeon-rx-6600-8-gb-mech-2x-video-card-rx-6600-mech-2x-8g

[finite fulcrum]

no,it will be whole new pc

[odd siren]

400 for the whole pc?

[finite fulcrum]

for gpu

[odd siren]

What's your whole budget and how much have you bought

[finite fulcrum]

idk wat my whole budget will be🤣 yet,but i can spend around 400 dollars for gpu,so i asked what best variant to choose

[odd siren]

Ok, I was only askin cos I could help save a few dollars here and there, but I'm gonna recommend a psu with this one

[sage hemlock]

whoops sorry just fixed it

[odd siren]

Still the one I linked above, mech amd 6600

[sage hemlock]

rlly? interesting.

[odd siren]

It's better overall

[sage hemlock]

k thx

[finite fulcrum]

yea thanks for advises anyways,so u would recommend looking for 6600?

[odd siren]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/tbc8jZ

That psu if you pair it with say, a 12400, 11400 or 10400, i would maybe consider the 650w version or an EVGA supernova GT if you pair it with a cpu that needs more power

Equivalent AMD would be like, 5600X, 5700X (kinda)

[sonic mural]

Equivalent to 12400f would be the 5600 almost exactly

10400f would probs be close to 5500 ish

And 11400f would probs be closer to 5600g ish

[odd siren]

Yeah, I meant in power terms soz

But yeah all those are like 65W lol

[sonic mural]

Power terms using tdp?

[sage hemlock]

@odd siren where could you find a rx 6600 250 or under the best I can find it rn is 300

[sonic mural]

Intel and amd measure tdp different

So it's not comparable

[odd siren]

Fair enough, that's true. I just woke up lol

[odd siren]

The newegg link in that pcpartpicker link has a mail in rebate and promo code that drops the price very close to 250

[sage hemlock]

ok i didn't see the promo code first time

[finite fulcrum]

i barely can understand what's going on,i just so low at pc,and wanted to know is it worth to buy 2060 or maybe 3060 with budget 400 dollars ,but now i know new gpu's ahhah,i still think about 2060 though

[odd siren]

It's all good. It'd be quicker if you gave a ballpark of your budget because every category has good value and red herrings

But I would def consider the 6600XT or 6650XT at that price

[finite fulcrum]

is it much better than 2060 or 3060?

[odd siren]

Yes

Dollar for dollar yes, if you intend to max out the $400

A 3060 is worth somewhere around 280-300 not the 400 or so it retails for if you compare it to the AMD ones, and a 2060 only worth 200 at most and that would be 2nd hand

There's a graph in the pins of this channel that will give you a good idea how these stack up

It's a rough gauge but very useful

[finite fulcrum]

but i guess they will never cost like this yea?

[sonic mural]

Performance wise, think of the 3060 like a 2070

That's what it performs like

A 6600xt on the other hand, performs like a 2070 Super in games

[finite fulcrum]

idk how 2070 performs

[odd siren]

Maybe after 40 series launches the 3060 will be cheaper, but it hasn't moved down from the 400-ish mark for a while now

[odd siren]

Maybe if I write it this way.
Performance:
6650XT>6600XT>3060>6600>>>>2060
Value per dollar when new:
6650XT=6600XT>6600>>>>3060>>>>>>>2060

[finite fulcrum]

yea i understood thanks

wat cpu mix with 6600XT and wat psu to choose

[odd siren]

I would do a 12400F with this one

And an asus tuf bronze 550w

One sec I'll divy up a whole build

[finite fulcrum]

can it be smth cheaper ?

[odd siren]

Sure

12100f is there

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/fhJc4s

can do this but I would maybe do 12400F and 6600XT

[finite fulcrum]

seems much better is it mre worse than 12400F ?

[odd siren]

So like this
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/ftBkjZ

[odd siren]

It's enough to say that even at 1080p it'll matter a small bit

Considering the small bump to 6650XT

12400F is a bit better value in this scenario

[sonic mural]

Id atleast go m steel legend tbh, it's $10

Or pro a b660m wifi is like $120 rn, which is a steal

[odd siren]

Yeah I thought about that

Oh the wifi? Lemme look

Hell yes

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/nT7QGL

[sonic mural]

Ye

[finite fulcrum]

thank you so much for info, but i wanna ask about memmory,is 16 gb enough?

[odd siren]

16gb is enough but 32gb is better long-term*

I did make a list there with 32gb, it's the same brand of sticks just double the size

I mightn't have posted it tho

Here
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/ZR9kjZ

[finite fulcrum]

and wat about storage with 512 gb,it's enough?

[sonic mural]

Depends on you tbh

[odd siren]

You can do 1tb for $20 more if you can afford it

It's worth it for the 1tb version

I edited the list above and stuck the 1tb version in there (not gonna keep reposting lists lol)

[finite fulcrum]

man,thanks

[odd siren]

All good 👍

[normal hawk]

32 is ideal for what

[fading glacier]

thats a good question

[odd siren]

Fixed it

[livid idol]

32gb is good for high end gaming now, certain games can utilize it and several will push you near 16gb limits if it's running with nothing else running.

16gb is still great if you're doing mid to low end gaming

[ivory herald]

If you're 900 iq w/ a UPS, can keep PC in stand-by most of the time instead of shutting down & really take advantage of the extra RAM.

[rustic pulsar]

RGB fusion is not detecting my gpu, what should I do to fix

[hasty sphinx]

Send to me and get a new gpu.

[charred raft]

Star citizen for example takes 70% of your ram space if you have 16gb OR 32gb

[fading glacier]

so 70% no matter how much ram you have? that sounds like bad optimization to me

[vital oriole]

well some games just take as much ram as possible

besides using ram is better than not using it, as long as it is utilized correctly

[wicked hound]

Caching for the sake of caching is bad. Caching for the sake of better perf (less pop ins, higher render distance, less stutter, etc) is good. Idk what SC does, but just cause it does lots of caching (presumably, given it seems pretty dynamic in memory usage) doesn't mean it's doing it incorrectly.

[vital oriole]

ye

Using it doesn't always mean bad

It's just case by case stuff

[cerulean sinew]

is this a good deal? Buyer doesn't ship, so I gotta go and pick it up (not far away), he also provides a receipt from 10.05.2021

[vital oriole]

sounds good enough

[rustic pulsar]

,ddu

.ddu

!ddu

[dreamy dragon]

DDU (Display Driver Uninstaller) Guide by Pato
https://github.com/NeweggTechie/Graphics-cards/wiki/How-to-use-DDU

[rustic pulsar]

i did it!

[keen nacelle]

you got there eventually

[tall lichen]

Would it be wise if I get the 5700xt

[fading glacier]

depends on the price

[tall lichen]

Mm. I think I've seen some cheaper than a 6600xt

[fading glacier]

there is a table on the channel pins with a rough estimate about cards performance

[tall lichen]

Though should I get one is a 550w PSU enough for it

[fading glacier]

you can draw your conclusions there

if its worth the price over newer gen

[fading glacier]

i would go 650 as the bare minimum, the 5700xt is a hungry card

[tall lichen]

Sheesh

[fading glacier]

you can always go 6600xt, almost same performance lower power draw

your 550 will go well on a 6600xt

but again, that depends on your local pricing

[tall lichen]

Yeah they're back to $400

[sonic mural]

Depends on model tbh, they aren't crazy power hungry if you get some models

Mine drew like 210w ish stock at max

And that's the best 2 fan 5700xt out there

Model ofc

[fading glacier]

yeah i forgot that power draw varies from brand to brand as well

[sonic mural]

Mine oc'ed will pull like 325-350 just fine

[tall lichen]

Hmmm

[sonic mural]

If it's a good quality 550w I wouldn't see an issue

Other than upgrade path and that type of thing

Unless you have a super power hungry CPU and super power hungry model of 5700xt

[tall lichen]

I see

[lone pond]

How bad does the cooling look on this

6600 powercolor fighter

[idle idol]

Looks like just a hunk of Aluminum slapped onto the RX 6600.

[lone pond]

hahaha what minimal cost gets you…

[idle idol]

lmao.

Does it even have a blackplate?

[lone pond]

I mean it’ll still be fine just not optimal

probably not

[idle idol]

eww..

[lone pond]

I’m used to 80c under load soooo

[keen nacelle]

It's a 6600

[idle idol]

I had a MSI Armor RX 580 it got fried because of heat.

[lone pond]

Fried?!!!

[idle idol]

Yep.

[lone pond]

Damn what

[idle idol]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/918354125710835764/968270613053591652/20220425_180140.jpg

Wasn't really fried but it did not run any games at all.

All that Graphical artifacts though.

[keen nacelle]

That's near impossible

[idle idol]

Idk though if it was the heat though, Tried DDU and other fixes but nada.

[keen nacelle]

Pc turns off before thermal damage occurs

[vital oriole]

that's the gpu itself dying

it won't kill itself from heat

[vocal current]

I have the 6600xt version. No backplate. Kinda ugly. Haven't had it go past 80 junction

Temps are fine imo

@lone pond

Got it for my sisters build im doing for her. Got it cheap. Big upgrade from her rx 570 4gb.

[velvet grail]

Smol PCIe on top of big PCIe 🤢

[vocal current]

It's either that or have it cover the fans on bottom.

[sacred fog]

Hi

[velvet grail]

As always
Anyway it covers the bad-looking non-backplate GPU

[vocal current]

I guess there is always v1tech lol

[agile chasm]

I have a Ryzen 7 2nd Gen 2700 CPU and a 650W PLUS BRONZE PSU with my 1060 6GB. I want to upgrade to the 3080 12GB. Would I need any other new updated components like a new PSU or CPU?

[vital oriole]

what psu do you have?

80+ rating means nothing to quality

it's just efficiency

[agile chasm]

It's the CORSAIR CX Series CX650 650W ATX12V 80

Bought and built my PC in 2019 and haven't upgraded since.

[vital oriole]

Hm

That'll do fine, it's pushing it but still fine

[agile chasm]

Newegg's lil PC builder said a required Wattage of 800 so I was concerned.

[vital oriole]

800w is a good recommendation but a decent enough 650w unit will do fine

[agile chasm]

Gotcha. And this Ryzen 7 is fine for now too, ya think?

[vital oriole]

I would wanna upgrade but it depends on the res you're playing on

[agile chasm]

Gotcha. I do have a 4k monitor now so I'd like to move to 4k

[vital oriole]

That'll do good on 4k

1080p will have some bottleneck by the cpu

[agile chasm]

So you're saying 1080p will fare worse than 4k?

[vital oriole]

yep

[agile chasm]

Fascinating

[vital oriole]

Well in terms of fps it'll surely put out less, but it's gonna be more stable

The lower the res, the more load gets put on cpu as gpu has to work less

[agile chasm]

Ohhh I understand that!

Thank you so much.

[heady turtle]

If going 6600, get this one https://pcpartpicker.com/product/M9ytt6/msi-radeon-rx-6600-8-gb-mech-2x-video-card-rx-6600-mech-2x-8g

[hasty sphinx]

ew

😄

[heady turtle]

You will want a new psu, 650w just isn't enough for a 3080

[lone pond]

idek if that fits tho

[heady turtle]

1 it's a 6600, 2 it's the cheapest by a good bit

[heady turtle]

Check if it do

[lone pond]

Well the problem is there’s a 4pin cpu cable coming out of the motherboard around 22cm from the pcie slots

So the msi one might interfere with that

[hasty sphinx]

I was only joking. Sheesh Patooooo

[lone pond]

Lmao

[heady turtle]

How would it?

[lone pond]

Because the cable sticks out right in the middle of the spot where the card would go

💀

[heady turtle]

Did you mean 22mm?

[lone pond]

No

I meant from the back of the case

Where the expansion slot covers are

That’s how they measure length right

[heady turtle]

I'm confused

[lone pond]

I’ll get a pic

[hasty sphinx]

I love upside down pics

[lone pond]

hp made the motherboard diagram upside down so i flipped it to show how it visually looks in my case

There’s a white cpu power cable plugin on the bottom right that might get in the way

[agile chasm]

Oh snap, a conflicting opinion.

[dreamy dragon]

Kuro The Saber Foxxo#2883 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

[vital oriole]

oop

forgot about the word

lmao

[agile chasm]

Got a recommendation?

[vital oriole]

but damn that is bad design 101

[velvet grail]

What am I looking at? 🤨

Horizontal mobo

[vital oriole]

i would do with evga g6

for 750w one

[agile chasm]

You talking to me?

[vital oriole]

ye

it's on nice sale rn

[heady turtle]

Oh that's going to he fine

[agile chasm]

Okay good. I was checking the Fantastech Sale as we speak

[heady turtle]

What country?

[agile chasm]

USA

[heady turtle]

Buying 750w for a 3080 is meh, it can work but if buying new get a 850w, lemme check current prices

[agile chasm]

I see an EVGA 850W in the Fantastech Sale for $100

[lean saddle]

Ive ran an 850w thor with a 3080ti/12900k with no issue

[heady turtle]

Yeah but i wouldn't bother buying a 750w nowadays when buying a 3080

[lean saddle]

The LCD has shown 870w tho in OCCT power kek

Yeah I have a 1kw psu in my daily

even though it doesnt need it atm

[heady turtle]

@agile chasm https://pcpartpicker.com/product/KqbTwP/evga-supernova-g6-850-w-80-gold-certified-fully-modular-atx-power-supply-220-g6-0850-x1

[vital oriole]

i kinda don't wanna get 850w imo cause 40 series cards will need new psu anyway

but that's a nice price

so why not go big

[heady turtle]

Well

They will have adaptors

[vital oriole]

i mean as in transients

[heady turtle]

And a cx 650w is not enough for a 3080

[heady turtle]

Hm?

[agile chasm]

What about this?

Or should Gold be prioritized over bronze?

[heady turtle]

@lone pond coming back to you the power cable looks like it's not even in line with pcie slot should be just fine

[vital oriole]

b5 kinda meh

[heady turtle]

G6 is WAYYY better

Also 80+ rating is just how efficient it is at AC to DC electricity conversion

Nothing to do with quality

[agile chasm]

Where do you all learn this stuff??

I wish I knew all this 😂

[vital oriole]

internet go brr

it's a rich source of information

but a lot of people doesn't use it much

[heady turtle]

I have a very high amount of messages in here and YouTube vids n stuff

[hasty sphinx]

Pato is a god.

that's all there is to it

[agile chasm]

Oh snap

[hasty sphinx]

make sure to give him all your monies for good luck

fourtune*

[fading glacier]

pato sensei

[cosmic bluff]

13700K sounding pretty nice right bout now

[fading glacier]

yeah.. but like 4 months away yet

[cosmic bluff]

My biggest issue I have is storage and I need more

I have a lot of games but I need a new nas server for my unity, blender, and all my texturing tools as well as projects for safe keeping

[fading glacier]

moar hard drives!

[livid idol]

Here's a fun rumor for you today:
Nvidia 40 series launch might be delayed until November-December because there's so much excess 30 series stock right now, like AIBs have full warehouses. Oops.

AMD is still on track for a Late Q3-early Q4 launch for both GPUs and CPUs

Nvidia asked TSMC to halt production but they declined, saying they can delay it but not halt

[fading glacier]

thats a fun rumor

those who are holding will be mad

delay more likely to q1 2023 according to tsmc

well q4 or q1

damn

[livid idol]

That is also mentioned in the leaks, how it may be January

[fading glacier]

well, the market is overflowing with 30 series card rn

what a time to be alive

[livid idol]

That would be a HUGE loss for Nvidia, not just because AMD will launch months before but also entirely missing the holiday season means massive profit loss

[fading glacier]

indeed

but the point still stand, with so many 30 series around available, the 40 series will have a hard time to sell at a high price

huge problem indeed

they will lose money anyway, they will be forced to sell 40 series at low prices

[livid idol]

Nvidia price rumors are worthless because Jensen is known to change prices right up to minutes before it's officially announced, but 4090 is supposedly $2500+

[fading glacier]

another no-gamer card

the 4080 should be above 1500 as well

[livid idol]

Easily, considering the 4070 is supposed to beat the 3090

[fading glacier]

yeah they will lose a lot of moeny, most people will prefer a 3080 at 600-700 instead

[livid idol]

70% more cuda cores and 30% higher clock speeds is why Nvidia is claiming 4090 to double the 3090

[lone pond]

30% higher clock??!!

[fading glacier]

plus a lot of cache as well

[livid idol]

Yeah they supposedly get up to 3GHz

[fading glacier]

a ton more

[lone pond]

That’s insane

[livid idol]

What do you think they needed all the extra power for lol

[ivory herald]

[sullen panther]

1 4090 probably trip my breaker

With an ac in my room

[twin eagle]

Even at $2500 I'd be surprised if they don't sell out the first day of launch

[ivory herald]

People pay that much for a strix 3090 after all. Impulses are a stinker.

[twin eagle]

I wonder if they'll ship LHR out of the gate and that will just be the new standard for graphics cards

[odd siren]

I actually think they won't

if they're worrying about supply rn (current rumour, grain of salt) I reckon they will leave them unlocked in hopes that crypto maybe comes back

[ivory herald]

I just hate LHR on the model name.

[heady turtle]

Doesn't matter anymore, mining profits and activity have gone down + lhr has been cracked

[wheat crag]

Ik a guy that bought 4 or 8 3090 white strix sli for his rig lol

He sent a picture of rog rings on each of his fingers before

Lol

[ivory herald]

I still don't regret saying someone wasted money on GTX 680's, and that was when sli was decent. I use a different phrasing since then though.

[vital oriole]

lol

[hybrid shale]

I need budget gpu that can play 1080p high/medium new AAA game

[lean saddle]

Price range?

[hybrid shale]

300-500

$

Trying to find it

Hope you can help me

[heady turtle]

What do you define as budget?

Oop discord didn't load

[heady turtle]

You in the us yea?

[keen nacelle]

6600xt if you want to stick to the lower end of your budget, otherwise 6700xt

[cerulean sinew]

https://geizhals.de/gigabyte-geforce-rtx-3070-eagle-oc-8g-rev-2-0-gv-n3070eagle-oc-8gd-a2551101.html

https://geizhals.de/gigabyte-geforce-rtx-3070-vision-oc-8g-rev-2-0-gv-n3070vision-oc-8gd-a2551104.html

both cards are listed for the same price, I know it is the same performance, but I am kinda struggling to choose one. Which would you pick?

[vital oriole]

it depends on your preference for looks

[odd siren]

literally identical besides the shroud and backplate

[cerulean sinew]

my build is all black, almost no rgb. my cpu cooler got a white tone

[hybrid shale]

Should i wait for next gen gpu?

i trying to make future reliable pc

[keen nacelle]

Depends on your budget, use case, if you have a pc atm, and how patient you are

[hybrid shale]

I can wait for another 6month

My current gpu is 1650s

[keen nacelle]

I'd wait then

[hybrid shale]

Just bought it dec 2020

[keen nacelle]

You'll likely need a new psu for new gpus, unless you have a good 750w or higher psu

And then you'll need an adapter if you do

[hybrid shale]

I forgot my psu watt

[keen nacelle]

4060 will prolly be fine on a decent 600w

[hybrid shale]

600w i guess

Im not at home rn

[keen nacelle]

Model is important, ping me when you find that out

[heady turtle]

I'd get the vision, white might sell for a bit more when it comes time to sell it

[hybrid shale]

Is corsair dude

[keen nacelle]

Still doesn't mean anything

Corsair has D tier psus and A tier psus

[hybrid shale]

But i forget what model

Ik

[keen nacelle]

Rm or rmx by chance?

Though that'd have to be 650w

Or 550, instead of 600

[hybrid shale]

Idk it's my bro pc pass to me

[keen nacelle]

Ah

[hybrid shale]

He built

The pc

[keen nacelle]

Ye when you find out the psu just ping me

[hybrid shale]

So what w should i take

[keen nacelle]

What?

[hybrid shale]

How many watts

U recommend

[keen nacelle]

There's more to a psu than wattage, I would wait to buy a new psu since atx 3.0 (the 12+4 pin psu) that 40 series will need are coming out soon

Better to go for one of those than use a current gen psu with an adapter

[hybrid shale]

Okay I'll be checking my psu soon

Ty btw

[keen nacelle]

Np

[lone pond]

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B09J8879JC

Gonna cop this, any opinions?

I have a $25 giftcard so technically I am only paying $300

Apparently it has a much better cooler on it than some of the other 6600s

Also, is Hynix vram bad? One of the reviews says it has hynix and to stay away from it

[livid idol]

Hynix VRAM doesn't overclock as well as Samsung but it doesn't really matter much

[lone pond]

Im not going to be mining or doing much overclocking anyways

[livid idol]

Only matters if you're mining

[lone pond]

Yup

Not that my PSU would like it lol

[heady turtle]

Just get the ventus for like 275 or would be 250 after your giftcard tbh

[livid idol]

Did you really just recommend a Ventus

Is it at least the 3x

[keen nacelle]

Your psu would likely like mining better than gaming

[lone pond]

Oh

[lone pond]

3x doesnt fit in my case

[livid idol]

Yeah and the Ventus 2x overheats in a halfway decent case with a 3060

Sooooo

[lone pond]

Lol

I think the asus is worth an extra $30

Sales tax is another $30

💀

[ivory herald]

Sales tax would be on any gpu though. 🤷‍♂️

[lone pond]

Yes but it’s like 10.1 in my state

Or in my area i should say

since it depends on a couple of things

[ivory herald]

Cool story bruh (lol). So $30 higher gpu price maybe means $1-2 extra tax vs the cheaper gpu.

[lone pond]

no i meant like i’m paying $330 regardless of it being the cheaper one

[ivory herald]

Ah, well yea I'd skip a ventus either way.

[jaunty mango]

What’s the best bang for buck gpu for around $300

I’ve looked at rtx 2070’s and I can get a good one on eBay for about $280

Should I buy a gpu on eBay or try to buy new

[livid idol]

Used is a lot better in that budget

[livid idol]

This 2080 auction ends in an hour and has no bids, starting $300

https://www.ebay.com/itm/125406815162?epid=10034596541&hash=item1d32d423ba%3Ag%3A-9QAAOSw0KVix50F&LH_ItemCondition=3000

[wicked hound]

$280 for a used 2070 non S seems pretty bad given you can get a new 6600 for $300

[livid idol]

3060 ti has been selling under $300 used for a bit too

[keen nacelle]

There's a 6600xt for $325 rn after $20 mir

[livid idol]

Ya know I bet used AMD cards would be good to look at too

[jaunty mango]

Ok so I can sneak by getting a 6700 or a 3060

Depending on the listing on eBay 6700 is a possibility

[keen nacelle]

6700xt is $460 new atm btw

[normal hawk]

Ayaneo is making a handheld with a mobile dedicated GPU.

That'll be wild

I'd prefer the 6800u though tbh cause price.

[livid idol]

Considering they're probably partnered with AMD like almost everyone else that might be a 6500

[normal hawk]

6600m probably.

[livid idol]

That would require a significantly higher power draw and heat dissipation though, basically a laptop at that point

[normal hawk]

Aya Neo isnt a stranger to that.

[odd siren]

I alr preordered loki max

[normal hawk]

Nothing wrong with that

6800u will be wonderful.

[odd siren]

Indeed. Gonna be handy if they release a dock for it too

[normal hawk]

Can just use a USB c dock though

[odd siren]

Yeah I can, hoping I get an official one though

[normal hawk]

Ah

[livid idol]

Dock a la Switch?

[odd siren]

Would that actually work cos I have one

[livid idol]

Would be quite nice

[normal hawk]

I'm looking at ayaneo for the 6800u instead of Ayn. But Ayn's 6600u would be tempting if I didn't have a Steam Deck.

[livid idol]

I bet it's too thick

[normal hawk]

Also ayaneo for the 1215u budget handheld. That'll be a treat.

[normal hawk]

Nah

[odd siren]

Rip

Oh well a usb 4 dock from ayn will be worth the wait

Saves me looking at thunderbolt docks and not thinking about compatibility

[livid idol]

Ohhh yeah that's right it'll be USB 4

[normal hawk]

Anbernic dropped the ball on the win600. 399$ for the highest end model which is 8gb DDR4 (single channel) and a athlon 3050e

[odd siren]

Ye cos it's usb 4 it doesn't even need to try for a good io

It just needs a good dock

[livid idol]

That plus BT

[normal hawk]

That's the price for the lowest end Steam Deck lol. So only people really desperate or really big fans would probably buy it.

[odd siren]

Ye. Ryzen 6000 truly a treasure

[livid idol]

Bluetooth controllers while it's on the dock

[normal hawk]

I only use wired controllers

[odd siren]

Shame about the steam deck. I waited since launch to preorder one but they're still not available here

[livid idol]

I have kids that trip on the wires lol

[normal hawk]

Ah

[livid idol]

They already almost destroyed my Wii when one was playing a gamecube game

[normal hawk]

I'm a game tester so, I don't play games for short sessions. I literally will pay a game for 8-12 hours and I dislike the battery life and then in office, the ps4's would have this weird latency caused by the BT signals or something. Was awful.

Everyone would fight for the revised ps4 controllers that allowed it to use the USB cable instead of Bluetooth lol, and with work having cheaper cables I decided I'd rather just invest in a good controller and cable.

[livid idol]

Oh yeah PS4 was better disabling the BT completely and just using wired, that wifi/bt card they used is garbage

[normal hawk]

I like the Razer controllers. Not expensive but good quality.

And right now they are pretty cheap. Cheaper than a first party Microsoft controller I'm pretty sure.

[odd siren]

They got that new kishi now right?

I nearly bought that but my poor internet swayed me to the loki

Otherwise I'd just stream the games with my phone

[quaint gull]

anyone know what the blanking time should be for a 4k monitor @ 60hz

when i hook up my 4k monitor as a 3rd display my vram clock speed gets stuck at max

[livid idol]

What do you mean by blanking time?

And the vram being at max frequency isn't in itself a problem

It's probably just using more vram since 4k is a lot of pixels

[quaint gull]

i ready some where that adjusting the blanking time with CRU app will bring down the vram freq to normal

[odd siren]

Boosting to max is still normal tho?

As long as your vram load is still low I wouldn't be concerned about it

I think my 3090 was doing that on triple screen but temps were always normal

[vital oriole]

vram boosting is normal

it doesn't damage it

the "back down to normal" is just the base clock when it is doing absolutely nothing

like not displaying things, unplugged

[quaint gull]

it doesnt use more power?

[livid idol]

Barely, maybe a couple watts at idle

No difference under load

[vital oriole]

^

[quaint gull]

@livid idol good to know thank you!

[hybrid solar]

i got an abs build from newegg yesterday and the gpu was dead :/

https://www.newegg.com/abs-ala268-gladiator/p/N82E16883360202R?Item=N82E16883360202R

[heady turtle]

That's unlucky, just make sure you where plugging the monitor cable into the gpu and not the motherboard

[hybrid solar]

it was plugged into the gpu

i tried reseating everything multiple times. it would boot fine without the gpu connected so im pretty positive its just a defective gpu

[stone siren]

Bruh that cable management ain't it

[heady turtle]

That sucks i guess return it :/

[normal hawk]

What GPU and what case?

oh, ya. makes sense

yea. and PSU. Optipex PSU's aren't enough for a 3080 I'm pretty sure

[keen nacelle]

What cpu is in that optiplex anyways

[velvet grail]

💀 🤦‍♂️

[muted slate]

Bro that cpu has to be Hella bottlenecked lol

[keen nacelle]

I would return the optiplez

[fading glacier]

proud 4770 here 😄

whats a bottleneck 😛

[normal hawk]

4790k at 4k isn't too bad I think.

An optiplex makes it bad though

Cause oem mobo

[livid idol]

Might be PCIe 2.0 lol

[fringe cradle]

Isn’t the 3080 ti supposed to perform better than the 3090?

[odd siren]

depends on the model

3x8 3080 Ti's generally tend to be better than 2x8 3090's

silicon lottery can be a big factor in that small difference though

[livid idol]

My gigabyte 3090 couldn't get past 19.8k on time spy. After I ditched it and got a 3080 ti FE it hit 21k first try lol.

[odd siren]

meanwhile my tuf 3090 hits like 22.9K

and I've seen some 3x8's do worse

especially with xoc vbios' letting you just do whatever you want with the card lol (note: extreme care and research should be taken for this)

[wheat crag]

Loser jk

[fossil talon]

smh not 69420.69420

[odd siren]

https://www.tomshardware.com/news/amd-amf-encoder-quality-boost

[stark barn]

Gigabyte 3080 ti oc visions a good card?

[keen nacelle]

3080 ti isn't worth it

3080 12gb is maybe 3% worse and much cheaper

It's $800-860 new atm

[golden badger]

whats the best site to get older gen stuff (like 700 to 1000 series) from nvidia

in the uk

[keen nacelle]

Ebay or Facebook marketplace

[golden badger]

what kinda gpu would i get for £60

just seen a 780

[heady turtle]

eBay or r/hardwareswapuk

[lone pond]

Facts

[cyan vault]

Whats the best like 350-450ish gpu you can get from Nvidia??

Unless at that price range AMD is just better

[vital oriole]

amd better value

you can get 6700xt for that price range

or 6600xt

[heady turtle]

Amd usually has far better value atm

6600xt for 350 and maybe 6700xt for 450

[vital oriole]

^

[cosmic bluff]

Is the 6650xt justifiable for it's price over the 6600xt?

[keen nacelle]

At $380 vs $340 for a meh model, I'd say yeah

If prices are the same as the last time I looked

[sharp sorrel]

Save up

[rustic pulsar]

Yeah, most modern integrated GPUs can beat a gpu of that price

[sharp sorrel]

Yep. I’m currently saving for a 3070

[rustic pulsar]

@golden badger

[sharp sorrel]

I have a question about gpu’s, if you don’t mind.

[rustic pulsar]

Ohh nice, great card

Yeah go ahead

[sharp sorrel]

What’s the difference between a 3070 ti and a standard 3070

[heady turtle]

Depends on the price but usually no

[rustic pulsar]

3070ti has a few more cores, check this out for the specific differences https://www.nvidia.com/en-us/geforce/graphics-cards/30-series/rtx-3070-3070ti/ but gaming perf is only slightly better on 3070tj

Get whichever you can for a better price

[heady turtle]

Like 2%

[rustic pulsar]

^

[sonic mural]

It's more than 2 but usually not worth

[sonic mural]

It's also on g6x

And it's a higher binned chip

[velvet grail]

Does anyone know how thick a riser pcie cable usually is?
2mm? 3mm?

Are they very flexible?

[livid idol]

It depends on the riser

[velvet grail]

Looking at this one how many cm is the curve/bent part

Maybe 2cm?

I got the the thickness, now I just need to know the curve

[ivory herald]

About as flexible as an ide cable.

[velvet grail]

Those were flexible af

[alpine crow]

What is the different abou the rtx 3060 and the rx 6650 xt

[keen nacelle]

3060 is around a 2070, 6650xt is around a 2080

[ivory herald]

Is that pfp appropriate?

[fading glacier]

mine? how dare you? my kid draw it

[velvet grail]

If you mean like the bin Laden one then I don't think so
(Could be anyone btw)

[lone pond]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MGFl5Nwusxw this is such a life saver

for any amd eyefinity users

[foggy mist]

So i just picked up an old power cable for my GPU how do I know if it is the "same kind" as the other ones I am using? I have the understanding that you cant mix match power cables for your gpu and I want to make sure I dont burn anything out

How do I know if it is the same compatibility?

[fading glacier]

you should use the one provided with your psu

different brands have their own standards

you cant mix different brands cables, it could end very wrong

[foggy mist]

They appear the same, I didnt know at the time of my build if it mattered and ive upgraded since so theyve all be jumbled together in storage

It is a matching brand cable for sure

[fading glacier]

could visually appear as "the same" but your psu internally could have a different layout

[keen nacelle]

you should not use a cable from one psu for another one

[fading glacier]

and you could end sending 12v to a ground pin and kaput!

just... dont

[foggy mist]

Yeah, im understanding that I cant mix them but how would I go about knowing if it would work... I mean I would have to buy a new one so how would I know if it works or not?

if that makes sense

[fading glacier]

thats ultimately your choice, everyone around here will advice against that

but, you do you man

[keen nacelle]

what psu is it from

[fading glacier]

its your gpu after all

[foggy mist]

EVGA

[keen nacelle]

and what psu are you wanting to plug it into

that is a brand

[foggy mist]

EVGA

[keen nacelle]

not a model

[foggy mist]

yes

oh lol 3080

[keen nacelle]

my guy

model of the psus

[foggy mist]

One sec

[fading glacier]

even same brand psus can have different cable layouts

i wouldnt risk a 3080 for a lousy cable

[foggy mist]

Yes I agree

but how would I find a new cable that works

[keen nacelle]

buy one from evga

contact support or smthn

[foggy mist]

ok

[fading glacier]

thats why i have all the spare cables of my psu on the psu box... youll never know

[foggy mist]

Yeah I didnt know at the time it mattered so theyre jumbled together with other ones

[fading glacier]

ouch

[foggy mist]

happens

[fading glacier]

yeah probably the one you have at hand is not an evga at all

just a look alike

[foggy mist]

it def is

it says EVGA on it

[fading glacier]

thing is you dont knwo of which series it was

thats another problem

[foggy mist]

it says "ga" on it

"VGA: GA"

[fading glacier]

and your psu is?

[foggy mist]

yeah

its a supernova 750w

80 plus gold fully modular

[fading glacier]

which series? 750w ga?

[foggy mist]

yes

I apologize, I shouldve started with that...

[fading glacier]

this is one is a gpu cable on my 750w ga psu... its something like this?

[foggy mist]

yes it looks the same

i dont have perms to post a pic lol

"VGA: GA" yes

[fading glacier]

if its the same, ga and evga everywhere and you are 100% safe your psu is a supernova ga 750w, then its your call

[foggy mist]

https://www.evga.com/products/product.aspx?pn=W001-00-000147

would that cable you have be this one?

[fading glacier]

probably, already packed it again on my drawer

[foggy mist]

Okay, sounds good, I appreciate your help

[fading glacier]

however

wait a second

your 3080 is new right?

[foggy mist]

yeah

[fading glacier]

supernova ga750w is a tier b psu because there is a lot of reports about shutting it down when a transient hit 3080s

have that in mind if your pc crashes or shutting down

[foggy mist]

is it a damaging shut down? or more of an overload and it shuts off

[vital oriole]

a good psu would just shut off

with no damage

[fading glacier]

Units experiencing tripping issues with high transient power draw GPUs like AMD Vega, 6900 XT and nVidia RTX3080 / 3080 Ti / 3090.

[vital oriole]

if it's a bad one well..

it'll go pop

[foggy mist]

its fairly new

[vital oriole]

or even kill some components

but the ga is a decent unit

it won't blow up

[fading glacier]

this is marked on the psu tier list for the ga series

even reviews on newegg talk about that for 3080s and up

[foggy mist]

hm, ill have to keep that in mind, what would be a good upgrade if need be?

[fading glacier]

not happened to me bnecause i have a 60ti

but have that in mind

any tier A unit, from 750 and up

https://cultists.network/140/psu-tier-list/

[foggy mist]

okay dope

[fading glacier]

its a good psu, no doubt about that, i love mine

just not good enough for that kind of high end gpu

or so they say

[foggy mist]

yeah I was a little worried it wouldnt be enough

I guess ill just see if it works or not lol

[fading glacier]

man, the smell of new when i opened my psu box... like a treasure... closed again on the drawer

[foggy mist]

it was an exciting ride home from when I got it, thats for sure

been sitting on it for a few days with this issue

I really dont want to blow anything up

[fading glacier]

it will work, but according to the reviews it could shut down on a transient 😦

i dont think it will blow

[sonic mural]

ga isnt super well reviewed so far either, all we really know too well is the transient issues and the fact it seems to be an andyson

[fading glacier]

just shutting down

[vital oriole]

it's probably at worst a fine unit

[fading glacier]

i had no choice on mine anyway, but its doin its job just fine so far

[vital oriole]

like it won't handle highest end of gpus

[fading glacier]

🙂

[vital oriole]

but will handle anything less

[fading glacier]

yup

[keen nacelle]

850 gt is $50 on B stock

[fading glacier]

and that one is a very good unit

[vital oriole]

gt is gud

[sonic mural]

evgas psu department needs a ton of work

[vital oriole]

but g6 better

[foggy mist]

im not really familiar with "transient issues" what does that mean?

[vital oriole]

power spikes

[fading glacier]

power spike on your card

[foggy mist]

ah

[vital oriole]

it's like a few milliseconds of spikes

[fading glacier]

it will draw like 2x for micro seconds

[vital oriole]

^

[fading glacier]

when starting a heavy load

very good units can handle that, others just trip the security measures and shut doiwn

[sonic mural]

can draw like 2x normal for a fraction of a millisecond

[vital oriole]

some even blow up

[foggy mist]

aye chill

[vital oriole]

like the gigabyte p-gm

[fading glacier]

oh man

dont get me started

[odd siren]

did somebody say explosive

[sonic mural]

some units just cant handle it and have protections set that make the unit shut down with like a 3080 +

[vital oriole]

that one tripped once, then blew up the second time it trips

[livid idol]

Some never got a second chance and blew the first time

[fading glacier]

thing is, if your pc experience shut down when loading games, well you know now where to look

😛

[vital oriole]

ouch

that's definitely a dangerous unit lmao

[fading glacier]

and dont wait for a blow up, just turn off and head for a new psu 😛

[vital oriole]

sometimes it can be bad mount of cooler

so eh, i would check cooler first before anything

like if there's any stickers to peel

[fading glacier]

ill try to get an a tier psu next time ill upgrade my gpu.... and hopefully not shuffle bundle again D:

[livid idol]

I got a p-gm in the shuffle. I ended up with 4, 1 DOA, 2 popped, and I'm using the last in a low power build lol

[fading glacier]

ouch

glad mine is still kicking after 6 months

and it will power my 13th gen build later this year

it must!

now that i think on it... i could throw a couple extra bucks for an a tier this time and keep the ga for the 4770 and the 750ti build

[keen nacelle]

im going from an A tier 650 to a b tier 850

[fading glacier]

seems counter intuitive to me, can i ask you why? o.O

[sonic mural]

because too good of price to not 😛

[keen nacelle]

because $50 gt

[sonic mural]

gt is a solid solid b tier tho

[keen nacelle]

can handle transients well

[sonic mural]

good load reg, transients, noise, etc

[fading glacier]

yeah solid choice that one

or maybe who knows, maybe the atx3.0 psus will bewith us when raptor lake hits

two birds with one shot

[livid idol]

The first one is due at the end of this month. MSI MEG 1000/1200W units.

[fading glacier]

yeah im counting on that timeframe, maybe by nov/dec we will have a lot of options available to make that upgrade as well

ill try to buy everything in one shot

to minimize the tax on my courier

[livid idol]

Theoretically you won't need to overbuy on wattage with ATX 3.0 also, since we currently recommend more than you need based on transient spikes

[fading glacier]

i will try to swap my 750 ga for a 850 tier A on atx3.0 equivalent , that should got me covered for a while even if i think on upgrading to a 4070 down the line

and use the 750 with my 4770 and 750 ti on another case

[livid idol]

Yeah 4070 will "only" be 300W+ lol

[fading glacier]

if i end up selling my 60ti to buy a 4070 later then the 850 will be ok for that :)\

[ivory herald]

600w spikes though of course, haha. I'm just itchin to get that FE-like 12pin.

[fading glacier]

ofc talking about 2023

[livid idol]

Sure but ATX 3.0 spec says it needs to handle up to triple spikes <1ms

[fading glacier]

damn

[ivory herald]

Yea that's right. Ah, 1080 ti did 2x spikes anyways also. tbh the spikes are almost overhyped. People just need a decent psu.

[fading glacier]

one strong enough to hold for those miliseconds

[livid idol]

Sure but even the good ones trip, like my RM850x tripped yesterday with my 5800X/3080 ti

Total power draw if you count the GPU double is only 750W, but the caps can't handle the spike

[odd siren]

I don't think my rm850x ever did that

Founder's cards be scary

[modern seal]

glad i upgraded to a 1000w last second hope itll be enough for 4070

[fading glacier]

hope the 4070 will come with an adapter to your psu

40 series will ship with a new power connector

[livid idol]

It will, a 2x8 pin or 3x8 pin to 16 pin depending on the model

[fading glacier]

then you are set for your 4070 (according to the tdp rumors)

just imagine a 450w 4070

😛

that could be hilarious

[livid idol]

Nah that's the 4090 at 450W

[fading glacier]

wasnt rumored at 600w?

[livid idol]

That rumor was based off of the theoretical max of the 16 pin connector

We now know that using the 3x8 pin adapter the max is 450W+75W slot power

Leaving some room for overclocking, that means 450W for most models. Except the kingpin that has 2x16 pins.

[fading glacier]

holy f.... 2x16

[livid idol]

Those cards are made to go 1000W under LN2

[normal hawk]

Has that card been revealed or is it just speculation?

[fading glacier]

that could be a 2500$+ kingpin monster

[livid idol]

The kingpin? We've seen pics

[livid idol]

Think a bit higher, 4090 msrp is rumored at $2500 and a top end model like kingpin will easily be $3500

[fading glacier]

now im sad for being poor

like the bear on my pfp

[livid idol]

It's 100% not a card for gamers anyway

[ivory herald]

e-peen

[keen nacelle]

I'm probably skipping 40 series, 3060 ti still overkill for what I do

Probably going to hop on 50 series or 7000/8000 series depending on pins, power usage, and perf

[gray bloom]

bought a 3060ti for a 370usd good or bad deal?

[ivory herald]

Unigine needs to make a tougher program for 10+ GB cards, lol jk.

[modern seal]

i got a rtx 3050 before the price drop for 30 bucks under msrp

[livid idol]

3dmark has a new benchmark coming called speedway, looking forward to getting 30 fps with my $2700 PC

[ivory herald]

$2700 gpu* --- edit: JK. I'll keep my eye out. Reminds me when TimeSpy is ran w/ a pc that's way older.

[livid idol]

I'm not coming anywhere near a 4090 so no

[stone siren]

Excuse me for showing this off so much but I love the look of this card

[modern seal]

lmao imagine they keep sli for 4090

[vital oriole]

3090 and above does have nvlink

it's better than sli

[livid idol]

The only practical purposes for multi GPU setups these days involve heavy workstation loads like AI processing and huge renders, so it makes sense to only have nvlink on the top models.
Very few games have launched in the last 10 years that officially support SLI/Crossfire/NVlink, and they always have a lot of bugs in that mode.

[velvet grail]

Are there any laptops wit AMD GPU (not iGPU)? Because I searched everywhere and didn't find any, no 6600 mobile, no Rx 5*00.....

[livid idol]

The 5000 ones are out of production, and AMD put strict performance requirements into the terms to use their GPUs, like they have to be paired with an AMD CPU and meet certain power and cooling targets. So most companies didn't bother making the laptops lol. They do exist, they're just hard to find.

[velvet grail]

A 6600/xt laptop would be really good probably

[lone pond]

my Nvidia Geforce GTX 645 is better then all of yours

jk lol

[hasty matrix]

Hi I have a 3090 and my screen just went black in the middle of the game and alt tabbed me out of it. and since then my screen is a lot greyer then before. after a couple of min my second monitor started to have a lot of glitch effects on it and was not usable. I turned the PC off immediately but idk how to make my screen look like the way it was. I also have a AOC 27 inch curved monitor that has game mode but i cannot enable it (idk why that is) can someone help me pls.

[velvet grail]

Make sure your bios is updated and that PCIe 4.0 is supported

That could be the issue, using a 4.0 card on a 3.0 slot can cause problems. I don't think it's your case, but make sure PCIe 4.0 is enabled

This problem is often caused by some type of monitors, too. But it's probably not ur case because if its both monitors is very unlikely that is the problem

Tell me which mobo do you have

[vital oriole]

that's more game problem

not pcie slot problem at all lmao

the way to try and fix this is to run ddu

[hasty matrix]

I have a gigabyte Aorus Z490 Elite AC mobo

[hasty matrix]

How can I update my bios?

[vital oriole]

and run it in safe mode

all this isn't bios stuff

it is gpu driver being messed up

[hasty matrix]

okay man I will try to update my drivers

[velvet grail]

It could be
I've seen similar thing when PCIe 4.0 is not enabled/it using 3.0 with a 4.0gpu

[vital oriole]

nah don't update

[hasty matrix]

cool, thanks

[vital oriole]

That's false tho

Such thing isn't possible

https://www.guru3d.com/files-details/display-driver-uninstaller-download.html @hasty matrix Download this and run the tool

Make sure to do clean uninstall

Then reinstall gpu driver once it's done

[velvet grail]

Can't you just remove updated drivers with
Win + ctrl + shift + B

?

[lone pond]

Sorry to interrupt -Quick question for y'all

I wanna add another GPU to my system to handle things like h264 video decoding/encoding, as well as run a VTuber avatar program, however I don't have a slot for it on my motherboard. I do, however, have a PCIe 1x slot spare.

This is the GPU: https://www.techpowerup.com/gpu-specs/msi-hd-7850-oc-2-gb.b571

I've confirmed it can run what I need it to. Therefore I wish to use it to take the load off of my GTX 1070 while I am streaming, allowing me to stream at higher framerates, and stream better games, as currently streaming with my VTuber avatar turned on causes an average of 20 to 40 fps drop depending on the game, which can tip the game into unplayable territories while playing at high resolutions and settings.

I understand using a PCIe 1x to 16x riser card would give me the port I need in order to add this second card. However I also know that doing so will cause a loss in performance. How MUCH performance loss can I expect from using one of these: https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/384788190250?chn=ps&msclkid=f7493efc011f11eda9bc0f22cb029cc5 (This may not be the one I buy, just an example of the riser card type I would be looking to get) And, more importantly, would I severely FEEL this loss in performance? As the card I wish to add is not all that powerful on its own, I'm assuming it wouldn't be hit too hard by the bandwidth constraint as it doesn't use as much as a high performance card would, and if this is correct, I should be fine, right?

Any tips would be amazing.

I cannot buy a new motherboard. I am unemployed with no income. If I could buy a new motherboard with two 16x slots I wouldn't be asking this question.

Thanks in advance!

[vital oriole]

That's not complete removal

[vital oriole]

performance loss will be big, but i can't say how much cause i haven't seen anyone did any testing

that gpu can probably run fine on 3.0 x8, but not x1

1 lane of pcie 3.0 only has like 985 MB/s of bandwidth

[hasty matrix]

I have to go to the dentist now xD so I will read all of this when I get back. Thanks all and I will try everything

[lone pond]

Will it cause a dent big enough that it just will not run the programs I want to run on it?

[vital oriole]

well

it will run

but you'll lose out on performance by quite a bit