if you want to upgrade to a better gpu and upgrade your rig later then go directly to a 3060ti or a 6600xt
#graphics-cards
fading glacier
keen nacelle
stop "yelling" at us
we are here by our own volition and are volunteering our time to help you
normal hawk
I'm not
normal hawk
3090 or nuthin
Actually I kinda wanna see how bad the bottle neck is if I put a 3090 in an fx 6300 build
I could do it.
molten river
ok if that's how you say, I'm going for a 3060 -and I buy a power of 750 watts, and later when I build my new built I can use those pieces,
keen nacelle
ok if that's how you say, I'm going for a 3060 -and I buy a power of 750 watts, ...
750 watts isnt all that matters in a psu
fading glacier
but seriously as baca said, we are here trying to help you get the most bang for your buck. if you dont want the advice thats fine, but plz do it respectfully, we dont deserve caps at every message... its disturbing
keen nacelle
overall quality is an issue too
get the 750 g6 psu mr111 linked
and if you continue to yell at us, good luck getting your pc up and running well on your own
because most if not all of us will say "have fun, you did this to yourself"
molten river
sorry for the caps
keen nacelle
thank you
normal hawk
Baka whyd you lose the double c. Your name keeps autocorrecting to Baja for me.
fading glacier
hey, thats true
normal hawk
Bacca or nuthin
normal hawk
It's an imposter
keen nacelle
hows this
normal hawk
Too long
fading glacier
thats it, i will sue you for psychological damage 👀
keen nacelle
i will sue you for slander
rustic pulsar
What about Bacacacacacac
normal hawk
This schedule change sucks
molten river
stop "yelling" at us
ok as they say, I'm going to buy a 1070 TI ddr5 8gb for now, for the moment since I can't put a 3060,, I'll stick with a 1070 TI ddr5 8gb. Thanks for all you guys, and excuse my ignorance.
keen nacelle
ok as they say, I'm going to buy a 1070 TI ddr5 8gb for now, for the moment sinc...
you can very much put a 3060 in
fading glacier
it will perform just as good as the 1070 on that bottleneckd pc, but once you upgrade your rig it will outperform the 1070 by miles
molten river
you can very much put a 3060 in
my question I will not have problems with my type of processor, I just want to be sure please thank you.
fading glacier
no, it will work fine
like a 40% of their full perfomance, but it will work fine
but once you upgrade your pc in the future it will do wonders
the 1070 will be good as well, but once you upgrade your rig it will remain as a slower gpu compared to the 3060 or 6600xt
molten river
ok, and if I can run with that type of processor and video card, 3060, in ultra but if I have a better graphic image, or in the same way, with a 1070. Just tell me which one I go for, 1070.TI or 3060,TI.
fading glacier
3060ti all the way
molten river
ok, thank you very much, yes better 3060 TI, and that will help me when I put together a better system,
fading glacier
glad we were of help
molten river
Thanks bro, it's good to know that with my processor I can use 3060 ti.gracias a todos un abraso.
At this time I will buy this, as you can see it is fine.
fading glacier
https://www.newegg.com/evga-geforce-rtx-3060-ti-08g-p5-3667-kl/p/N82E16814487546?Item=N82E16814487546 this is the one i own, pretty good one and cheaper than yours
plus sold directly from newegg instead of a third party, im sure there are better deals out there, but yours is awfully expensive
molten river
really thanks im going chek...this card is fron newegg,bt im going chek the link t/y
molten river
ok,im going for.EVGA GeForce RTX 3060 Ti FTW ULTRA GAMING Video.and i hava to buy a power suply,750. is good.
fading glacier
check this as well
this combo is extremely good
practically a free psu
cant find it on the psu tier list but im sure the guys around here can say a thing or two about that psu
molten river
woww,and is a good power suply,
fading glacier
i cant tell that for sure, just that is a free psu
molten river
and the video card the branis good...ASUS KO
fading glacier
its a good card, yes
molten river
the brand..ok
and the power supply if it is good, or is it a used one, corsair cx750m in 55.dollar
Thanks bro, I'll make a decision right now, thanks for your time, good night.
molten river
mouch beter a cx750m,power suply
keen nacelle
its a good bit better yes
molten river
I want to buy a good power supply, but not very expensive.
keen nacelle
that fits those constraints
fading glacier
the combo i just posted fits your needs perfectly at an affordable price
molten river
hey bro the boy to buy right now, and if the video card is good,,,,, and power supply,,, I'm nervous lolol... then boy and I buy it yes or yes
fading glacier
thats up to you, its your money anyway
molten river
I buy it right now, I'm a little nervous and yes the video card is good, and the power supply...ok I buy it yes or yes
fading glacier
we can only advice, nothing more, the final decision is yours
molten river
yhanks,for you time ,
molten river
yesss I already ordered it thanks and thanks to all God bless you........
molten river
@molten riverhello
hasty sphinx
wispy olive
I dont know if this is the right place to ask but my GPU died a few weeks ago. I've been scrambling to find a replacement and found a Gainward GTX 760 sold for 1.5K Philippine Pesos (28USD). The seller says the GPU shows up on the display and goes into windows fine but "it won't read drivers". Is this an easy fix? What other questions should I ask?
My PC has a Ryzen 3 1200, 8GBs of 2666mhz HyperX RAM, 120GBs of SSD, and 700GBs of HDD. I also have a 500w PSU.
Oh also, my motherboard is an Asus Prime A320M-K
heady turtle
$279 for the rtx 2060?
Assuming you're in the us? No
heady turtle
I dont know if this is the right place to ask but my GPU died a few weeks ago. I...
Not reading drivers doesn't make any actual sense so should be fine, my best guess is they mean that there's no new drivers or they're completely tech illiterate
wispy olive
If theres no new drivers then thats just completely fine then right?
I mean, I only mainly play old titles and esports games.
@heady turtle
heady turtle
Yes that's fine
sonic mural
Not reading drivers doesn't make any actual sense so should be fine, my best gue...
they probs mean new drivers wont install without an error or the card isnt being recognized imo
heady turtle
they probs mean new drivers wont install without an error or the card isnt being...
That was my guess ye
sonic mural
ye
dreamy dragonBOT
DDU (Display Driver Uninstaller) Guide by Pato
https://github.com/NeweggTechie/Graphics-cards/wiki/How-to-use-DDU
rustic pulsar
poggy rommy mommy
hollow zephyr
Check this out on @Newegg: GIGABYTE Gaming GeForce RTX 3080 Ti 12GB GDDR6X PCI Express 4.0 ATX Video Card GV-N308TGAMING OC-12GD https://www.newegg.com/gigabyte-geforce-rtx-3080-ti-gv-n308tgaming-oc-12gd/p/N82E16814932436?Item=N82E16814932436&Source=socialshare&cm_mmc=snc-social-_-sr-_-14-932-436-_-06172022
Of course this comes out the day after I buy my 3080 
sonic mural
Still a quite meh deal
3080ti for $1k makes almost no sense when 3080 12gb is regularly $800
hollow zephyr
Factual
remote patrol
Assuming you're in the us? No
no, Europe
heady turtle
no, Europe
Country? Price in local currency/euro? New or used?
remote patrol
Country? Price in local currency/euro? New or used?
Croatia, price is 1.995,00 KN (Croatian currency) which is 265€, new
heady turtle
Croatia, price is 1.995,00 KN (Croatian currency) which is 265€, new
Not sure what the market is like in Croatia but see what price rx 6600 is, if it's more than like ~€320 thats an okay price
remote patrol
alr thank you
hasty sphinx
I can't seem to find the 980 8gb in gpu comparison on passmark:/
sullen panther
There's an 8gb 980?
heady turtle
There be no 980 8gb smh
hasty sphinx
There be no 980 8gb smh
shh I suck at the names of gpus lol
heady turtle
shh I suck at the names of gpus lol
flat maple
Would anyone still recommend EVGA?
Years and years ago I heard they had good warranties
Considering you aren’t a dunderhead and using it for crypto
livid idol
Because the new generation is coming soon
livid idol
~3 months or so
tulip totem
will prices of 30 and 6 series drop more
livid idol
Not a whole lot more I think
forest oasis
the people who do know wouldnt say
tulip totem
i just browising and saw 6900xt for 900 and was confused
fading glacier
thats why you read news usually
livid idol
It's been pretty common lately https://pcpartpicker.com/products/video-card/#c=498&sort=price&page=1
tulip totem
took long enough
fading glacier
at the same time, no one knows for certain about price nor availability of the newer gens
fading glacier
thats very sus
livid idol
If that's amazon it's probably a scam
tulip totem
livid idol
3080 12gb has been $800 or so
heady turtle
Which is 
value
fading glacier
only the 3080 and the 3090 are below msrp, lower cards are still above msrp... not by much, but not at msrp
heady turtle
Only 3080 12gb
tulip totem
only the 3080 and the 3090 are below msrp, lower cards are still above msrp... n...
where???!?!?
heady turtle
Only 3080 12gb
Although it never had an official msp
tulip totem
380 or 6900xt
heady turtle
Depends if you care about ray tracing
livid idol
It's mostly a gimmick so far, very little actual visual benefit for massive drop in frames
heady turtle
Best improvement is in Minecraft tbh
And it's only mc bedrock so the crap Minecraft
livid idol
And Control looks decent when it's not crashing
livid idol
Yeah that's not really a selling point now either, with RSR supporting all games
heady turtle
Best nv features are dlss and RTX voice imho
fading glacier
then go straigth to 6900xt
tulip totem
then go straigth to 6900xt
kk
fading glacier
amd cards usually are cheaper than nvidia
heady turtle
At current prices yeah
tulip totem
i have 3800x
heady turtle
If you wait for 3080 12gb to go to 800 again I'd get that
tulip totem
think i should uprgarde if getting 6900xt
livid idol
i have 3800x
That's fine
livid idol
Smart
heady turtle
What you got atm?
fading glacier
think i should uprgarde if getting 6900xt
that depends on your budget, how much you are goin to spend on upgrades
heady turtle
Oof
tulip totem
for 5700xt
heady turtle
Yeah new psu
tulip totem
800 gold ima get
heady turtle
Gold bronze etc doesn't have anything to do with quality
fading glacier
bronze/gold only talks about efficiency.
heady turtle
Get an a tier from https://cultists.network/140/psu-tier-list/
fading glacier
someday i will buy an a tier
for now im happy with my b tier... no problems so far :3
heady turtle
B tier is perfectly fine for 3070 and under tbh
fading glacier
at least b tier doesnt explode
tulip totem
what are the rails
livid idol
I am seeing a flood of founders edition 3090s on ebay for $900
Miners are dumping them
flat maple
“Lightly used”
fading glacier
ebay and amazon are full of scammers at every turn
flat maple
“Lightly used”
fading glacier
you should be very careful there
flat maple
ebay and amazon are full of scammers at every turn
Oh I know it
heady turtle
“Lightly used”
Miners actually take way better care of cards than gamers in general
heady turtle
is a 750 good
Assume you're in the us?
fading glacier
thats why i only buy at newegg and only if sold and shipped by newegg... maybe ill get things a lil more expensive, but its safer for my soul
:3
flat maple
Basically been looking for the best power I could find for $750 budget
fading glacier
damn
tulip totem
Assume you're in the us?
yes
flat maple
Dont mind going just a little overbudget for a card
heady turtle
normal hawk
With the exception of AIO. Hybrid and the Ventus 2x yea
tulip totem
tint case momnet
fading glacier
how the eff they cool those things
tulip totem
do i need mid tower or full
flat maple
I wonder if there is a nekkid card option
fading glacier
do i need mid tower or full
that depends on you, we cant answer that
tulip totem
will ti fit ion both?
fading glacier
that depends on the case
you should check a case of your liking and see the measurements
and if it fit the card
heady turtle
theres a 3090/6900/3080 ventus 2x?
only 3x highest 2x is 3070
heady turtle
will ti fit ion both?
it depends on the exact case
some ones I would reccomend, phanteks g360a/p400a/p500a, corsair 4000d/5000d airflow
fading glacier
also the good ol fractal torrent
livid idol
The torrent is good for air cooling and custom loops, AIO not so much
heady turtle
also the good ol fractal torrent
bad price and bad for aios
fading glacier
you got me there chief
livid idol
The price isn't too bad considering what you get. 2x thicc 180mm fans and 3x 140mm, plus RGB
heady turtle
Yeah but considering most high end builds go aio it's basically only worth for custom loop
Unless we get a dual 180mm rad aio sometime soon 
fading glacier
or air cooling, yeah the psu position is pretty... omg
not so common to have the psu at the top
heady turtle
Thing is what are you doing air-cooling a cpu in a 200$ case
fading glacier
crying on a 5000x
livid idol
Thing is what are you doing air-cooling a cpu in a 200$ case
AK620/NH D15 would like a word
heady turtle
imo if youre spending 200$ on a case you should be at least getting the 2nd to highest tier cpu and a d15/ak620 cant really handle that
it would work but like
livid idol
They work on a 5900X
livid idol
The 5900X doesn't get as high hotspot so you can do a little OC on it
livid idol
Yeah it still falls about 3 degrees shy of the LFII 280
But that's not so bad
That's with an overclocked 3950X
heady turtle
Fair enough, I'd assume that's with offset mount?
livid idol
Not sure tbh, don't have the time to check the rest of the video
hasty sphinx
Fair enough, I'd assume that's with offset mount?
what does offset mount mean?
loud pecan
Ok be honest with me, I just brought stuff on new egg and many other say that I have high chance the components im ordering may come dead
I'm not to sure if I do have a high chance of that happening :c
livid idol
How many people write reviews to just say "it works how I expected" vs how many write to say "it broke"?
Over time there will be a large number of people that say it was bad but there's no way to know exactly how many were good. That's what professional reviews are for.
loud pecan
I see
livid idol
Now if 80% of the reviews are low rating maybe consider alternatives
loud pecan
:3
fading glacier
Ok be honest with me, I just brought stuff on new egg and many other say that I ...
quite the contrary, its a very low chance but not only newegg, any electronic on any retailer have this very low chance... thats why rma exist
those are the risk of electronics in general
molten river
Hello, if I bottleneck with a new GPU it may cause some damage to my graphics card.
fading glacier
no
bottleneck means that either your gpu or your cpu cant keep up with the performance of the other, there is nothing dangerous on a bottleneck
just lower performance, less fps overall, nothing more
molten river
no
hey bro thanks,solo e aqui de curioso y studiar.
I'm just here to be curious and study.
karmic crag
i'm looking at sub 500 used 3060tis on secondhand sites and I feel like I'm in heaven
karmic crag
we're not out of the woods yet with the shortage but it feels like things are slightly better
karmic crag
if you're in the us
for sure, but compared to last year? fuggetaboutit
you don't remember when they were going for 1k+?
heady turtle
i'm looking at sub 500 used 3060tis on secondhand sites and I feel like I'm in h...
They should be around 500 maybe a tad more, new now
karmic crag
They should be around 500 maybe a tad more, new now
yep
vital oriole
but i have a lean for 6700xt myself
karmic crag
haha
heady turtle
haha
I agree with foxy, they're going for like 460~ new atm and are 5% better out of the box
karmic crag
I agree with foxy, they're going for like 460~ new atm and are 5% better out of ...
interesting, what site are you seeing these on new?
best I've seen is a $520 60ti at microcenter
fading glacier
he was talking about the 6700xt
heady turtle
interesting, what site are you seeing these on new?
Oh dam 6700xts are back up to 500 atm but
https://pcpartpicker.com/products/video-card/#c=497,513,501,523&sort=price&page=1
There was a few around 460 week or 2 ago
karmic crag
gotchu
heady turtle
Although there do be an asus dual 3060 ti for 500 there
quasi flicker
Is there any way to see if parts of your GPU aren't contacting the cooler without taking it apart?
fading glacier
wut? why?
quasi flicker
Temps seem to fluctuate large amounts too much
and the cooler doesn't seem to be very effective
fading glacier
did you record the temps?
heady turtle
What's your fan curve like?
quasi flicker
What's your fan curve like?
heady turtle
You want it to max out at 75c btw, 80c it will crash
quasi flicker
Normally it seems to stay around 62C
heady turtle
Check your hotspot temps
quasi flicker
You want it to max out at 75c btw, 80c it will crash
It's hitting 83C
quasi flicker
Check your hotspot temps
Check what?
fading glacier
everything below 90 under load is normal
quasi flicker
Not for this card
I had never seen it go above 70C until recently
and its still doing this with a more aggressive fan curve
quasi flicker
Normally it seems to stay around 62C
Battlefront II, for example, never went above 65C even uncapped. Now it hits 80C+ if I leave it uncapped.
fading glacier
auch
quasi flicker
Even Fortnite Save the World is running hot on some missions if I'm rendering more animations than normal
heady turtle
It's hitting 83C
Das not good
fading glacier
im guessing you already cleaned the card heatsink and fans
heady turtle
Check what?
Hotspot temps
fading glacier
which the onjly thing left is to repaste the thing
heady turtle
everything below 90 under load is normal
Nope it'll throttle at 83c
fading glacier
yeah, im reading that now
quasi flicker
im guessing you already cleaned the card heatsink and fans
It's still under warranty, so all I've ever done is air it out
fading glacier
rma the thing
quasi flicker
Meshify 2
quasi flicker
What's your case setup like?
What do you mean?
quasi flicker
Using HWiNFO, it only has the temp that Afterburner also shows
I guess I'll see what Gigabyte's support says, but I doubt they'll be of much help
fading glacier
if you are still under warranty as you said, then rma it... avoid a point of no return with the card
quasi flicker
Probably not going to get a Gigabyte card again with this issue, the computer my dad and brother use has an ASUS 2060 that has had no issues and runs well for being a 2060
fading glacier
could be bad luck, could happen on any brand or any card... thats why rma exists
quasi flicker
I don't think it's bad luck after I've had it since 2020
heady turtle
What do you mean?
Was checking you didn't have an oven case
heady turtle
My point was, what is that?
Basically the hottest spot on your gpu
heady turtle
Using HWiNFO, it only has the temp that Afterburner also shows
Can you send a screenshot?
fading glacier
😛
quasi flicker
There's nothing else related to temps in it
Also, this thing turns into a 737 when the fans hit 80%
heady turtle
That's very odd I've never seen a high ish end gpu like a 2070 super not have a hotspot sensor
You could take out the gpu and see if you can see okay contact but easiest thing you could do is probably see if you can tighten the gpu screws on the backplate side, i did that on my 3070 gaming oc as well as repaste but my main problem was hotspot, it could creep up to 105c within a few minutes of stress test even tho fans would be at 100% and 70c core temp
The screws weren't tightened properly i think
wicked hound
Is that not HWMonitor and not HWiNFO? Or am I remembering the old UIs incorrectly? Either way, make sure the software is up to date. If that's HWiNFO then that's definitely out of date by a fair few versions.
quasi flicker
I've never updated it
there's a hotspot temp now
Core is 34C and hotspot shows 45C
heady turtle
Is that not HWMonitor and not HWiNFO? Or am I remembering the old UIs incorrectl...
Hwinfo64, hwmonitor is wayy more basic
wicked hound
I swear that looks like hwmonitor
Last I used it, it wasn't that much worse then HWiNFO tbf.
quasi flicker
it's HWiNFO
Probably just an "ancient" version
hotspot temps are a good 14C higher
with <35% usage
wicked hound
Doesn't sound super terrible. That said, should ideally be looking at it on load.
quasi flicker
Yeah, starting a STW mission rn
If it ever decides to load in
there
~53C core, ~66.5C hotspot
I'll look again when the match actually starts, not enough people for it to start yet
quasi flicker
The screws weren't tightened properly i think
💀
How do you mess that up?
Gigabyte's motherboard are still at least partially hand-made, I'd assume some of their other stuff partially is, too
Still limited on utilization
Probably need to do Battlefront II
heady turtle
Last I used it, it wasn't *that* much worse then HWiNFO tbf.
Hwmonitor is very basic
heady turtle
How do you mess that up?
Idk Gigglybyte also glued my capacitors on with pritt stick so one fell off on me and since gigabyte doesn't rma in Ireland i could only get return /replacement i was sad about this because it was fhr
quasi flicker
💀
rustic pulsar
gigglybyte
quasi flicker
seems fine
heady turtle
seems fine
Was it just super out of sate hwinfo?
Also is that under load? If so what load
quasi flicker
I was using Afterburner when I was seeing the temps
quasi flicker
Also is that under load? If so what load
Fortnite Save the World, I tried Battlefront II but I couldn't get it to go over 144FPS. Seems like it ran normally, though.
heady turtle
Idk how stressful that is
keen nacelle
my friend is running ark on medium settings on a 1650
gritty hinge
anybody have recommendations on what 3060 I should get?
keen nacelle
anybody have recommendations on what 3060 I should get?
whatever cheapest you can find, but id go for a 6600xt or 6650xt
they tend to be cheaper and are better
gritty hinge
whatever cheapest you can find, but id go for a 6600xt or 6650xt
if u dont mind me asking in here, do you have a CPU recommendation to go with either of these GPU's I was thinking a i5 12th gen but I would like to hear your opinion
keen nacelle
if u dont mind me asking in here, do you have a CPU recommendation to go with ei...
have you bought anything for the build?
gritty hinge
have you bought anything for the build?
nope I've just recently been thinking about the parts
keen nacelle
nope I've just recently been thinking about the parts
what country do you live in and whats the budget?
gritty hinge
what country do you live in and whats the budget?
i live in the US my budget is around 1500$
keen nacelle
thats nearly 3080 territory
not 3060
one second
while it is a terrible model 3080, itll be fine for gaming https://pcpartpicker.com/list/CgczZw
tho if you can spend a bit more you can do a better model 3080
and imo its worth it
quasi flicker
my friend is running ark on medium settings on a 1650
It still melts GPUs, it also looks terrible unless you have the resolution scale all of the way up
keen nacelle
...
hasty sphinx
When I get a 40 series.. Can I also run my 1650s in my system at the same time? I don't like want to try and run my games from both gpus, just that I would like my other 2 monitors to maybe be on that gpu while my main gaming monitor is on the 40 series..
livid idol
Sure you can do that
hasty sphinx
Is there any harm or benefit? I just want to be able to leave the 40 series resources strictly for gaming.
like I've noticed my sensor panel likes to use a bit of my current gpu
livid idol
Slightly lower airflow to the main gpu if the second is blocking a fan but that's about it
hasty sphinx
oh right, I'll have to look. I have 3 pcie x16, but the bottom one I think the 1650s would be right against the psu shroud.
west flax
I'm looking at a 3070 and a used 2080Ti for the same price and don't know which one I should choose. I am planning to play a lot of VR games using my valve index and have dual monitors
hasty sphinx
I'm looking at a 3070 and a used 2080Ti for the same price and don't know which ...
Looks like the 3070 is the cheaper option for basically same performance.
Also looks like 3070ti is same price as a 3070.
@magic wing would know better though.
cerulean rover
I'm looking at a 3070 and a used 2080Ti for the same price and don't know which ...
assuming usd, what prices?
molten river
Hello
hasty sphinx
assuming usd, what prices?
Newegg has 3070 and ti version listed around 600, and the 2080ti at 1k+?
cerulean rover
they're talking used 2080ti
final smelt
i'd assume 2080ti because of the vram
west flax
I live in Sweden and both go for about $815
final smelt
right?
hasty sphinx
they're talking used 2080ti
Oh I didn't see that part.
west flax
To be more precise, a used 2080 Ti Strix or a new 3070 FTW3 Ultra
hasty sphinx
Looks like the 3070 performs slightly better though.
hasty sphinx
Tbh, at the level of performance of each being close to each other, id rather go for the new one because warranty as well as you know it's new.
west flax
Yeah, and maybe if I regret my choice I can return it and look for other choices
hasty sphinx
8gb will be more than enough for VR though.
final smelt
yeah thats true
cerulean rover
I live in Sweden and both go for about $815
a bit more and you can get a 3070ti
https://www.proshop.se/Grafikkort/ASUS-GeForce-RTX-3070-Ti-TUF-8GB-GDDR6X-RAM-Grafikkort/2958600
molten river
7000.00
hasty sphinx
a bit more and you can get a 3070ti
https://www.proshop.se/Grafikkort/ASUS-GeFor...
Definitely worth.
cerulean rover
haven't looked at proshop recently, says 1 in stock but I dunno
There are prob also other retailers with 3070ti at similar prices too
west flax
a bit more and you can get a 3070ti
https://www.proshop.se/Grafikkort/ASUS-GeFor...
Yeah honestly I might get the 3070 Ti due to $50 price diff + a lot in stock so a greater chance for me
.
"Because of low availability and long waiting times, we are not taking any new orders at this moment.
Sales open daily 2PM for cards in stock."
1 in stock in proshop
100+ in stock in the other store im looking at
cerulean rover
not familiar with many swedish retailers outside of proshop, but that might work
lone pond
I'm torn between buying a 1060 6gb and a 1650super . Which one should I get?
heady turtle
Well you shouldn't buy buying either unless you're getting a pretty good deal on them tbh
lone pond
i found both for under 140usd
heady turtle
Go for the cheaper one they're practically identical
whole gazelle
I'm torn between buying a 1060 6gb and a 1650super . Which one should I get?
They are almost the same in terms of performance
median mural
heady turtle
I cant see the price of the evga one but id get this instead for 850 https://pcpartpicker.com/product/qFytt6/msi-geforce-rtx-3080-12gb-lhr-12-gb-gaming-z-trio-video-card-geforce-rtx-3080-gaming-z-trio-12g-lhr
median mural
evga is $867.43 usd
livid idol
That gaming Z is one of the best models that aren't super-premium
median mural
I bought it
quasi flicker
Okay, now hotspots are a good 20C higher than the core temp @heady turtle
Core is ~84C and hotspots are ~105C
wicked hound
I believe average edge to hotspot delta is 15c - 18c. So that isnt too bad. Tho, 84c edge is running you at the default vBIOS temp limit so that do be kinda warm.
heady turtle
Core is ~84C and hotspots are ~105C
Neither of those are really good :/ try get fans to max out at 75c at least imo
quasi flicker
That might not be the best idea
These fans don't seem to be made to go that fast
It starts sounds like a jet at 80% and above that they make weird sounds
quasi flicker
Like bearings flying around or something
zealous tide
Is buying a gpu from ebay safe or should I shy away and just wait for one at msrp
heady turtle
Gpus are at or close to msrp atm but eBay is fine as long as you keep an eye out for sus listings
Like seller having 0 feedback is a huge red flag
Or requesting payment outside ebay
Or no description/won't give you a timestamped pic with username if you ask for one
zealous tide
thanks for the tips Ive been wanting to upgrade for a bit so I was worried I was getting impatient
fading glacier
i feel ya bro, im impatient as well for raptor lake/am5 launch D:
quasi flicker
How long would I usually be without a graphics card for a Gigabyte RMA?
MSRP is US$229.99
So that sounds about right
keen nacelle
its alright
quasi flicker
Apparently it is the thermal pads getting close to being dried out
They do seem a little dry
heady turtle
Thermal pads would be memory
cerulean sinew
Found this used graphics card for 500€, seller seems serious. I can personally go and get it. Used for 18 months, is it worth it?
hasty sphinx
Found this used graphics card for 500€, seller seems serious. I can personally g...
What country do you live in?
fading glacier
price seems good, up to you pal
fading glacier
yeah, but as used the price is ok
hasty sphinx
true, but 18 months seems like quite a while.
hasty sphinx
@cerulean sinew Offer him 450 and see what he says.
never hurtrs to haggle.
never hurts to haggle.
fading glacier
yeah haggle between 450-500
cerulean sinew
Asked him if there is any wiggle room, he denied (he got other requests)
not sure if I should go for it or wait one more month and then buy a new 3070
fading glacier
up to you
cerulean sinew
will gpu prices drop in the coming month?
fading glacier
nobody knows
cerulean sinew
No clue how to choose
fading glacier
maybe, maybe not
heady turtle
Found this used graphics card for 500€, seller seems serious. I can personally g...
That's decent
fading glacier
if it were me i choose the used one IF i plan to swap it later on for a 40 series card, but if i want to hold on that card for at least 4 to 6 years, ill wait for a new one
but, thats me
cerulean sinew
Ye am probably staying with it for the next 5 years
fading glacier
like buying the used, use it for a while and resell it later with a good repaste and ABC
then, get a new one
when i had mine, i was looking in the used market as well to swap it later for a newer gen, then i won the shuffle for a new card, so ill stick with it for the next 5 years
hasty sphinx
will gpu prices drop in the coming month?
This is current 3070 gpu price changes in the last month on that website I linked you.
This is the last week.
it seems to be holding an average atm.
but it could go lower. I don't see it going higher though.
Welp Pato is here. I'm out.
❤️
fading glacier
careful with the bite
heady turtle
The question you need to ask yourself is, do you have a card that you are okay waiting another ~3 months before upgrading? If so I'd wait, if not then that 3070 is a good deal
fading glacier
he is not a day walker
hasty sphinx
If you decide to go with the used card.. remember to try and haggle 😉
cerulean sinew
Guess I'll keep an eye on the prices the next 3 weeks, no matter what the price then is am gonna go for a new one
cerulean sinew
The question you need to ask yourself is, do you have a card that you are okay w...
I can survive with mine
fading glacier
then wait, youll be fine
like, im holding ok on my 4770 for now... i can wait for raptor lake no worries by the end of the year
however im fighting the urge to hit the check out button on my cart everyday D:
hasty sphinx
I'm trying to cling to my 1650s for dear life right now waiting for the 40 series
hasty sphinx
*however im fighting the urge to hit the check out button on my cart everyday D:...
for reallll
heady turtle
I can survive with mine
Both are good options but if you're okay with yours at the moment I'd wait for 40 series/rx 7000
fading glacier
I'm trying to cling to my 1650s for dear life right now waiting for the 40 serie...
when i won my 60ti i was rocking a 650gt... xD a 1650 is ok till 40 series
i guess
hasty sphinx
when i won my 60ti i was rocking a 650gt... xD a 1650 is ok till 40 series
I just wanna play games naow though.
I don't want to play any games that I can't play max
which is most the games I want to play atm
fading glacier
have the same feeling on my bottleneckd 4770
hasty sphinx
like I can play Assasssin's creed Valhalla at 60fpss max except textures at medium..
fading glacier
hasty sphinx
and I've had no desire to play because I can't max that out
I mean, I just bought ff7 remake intergrade..
and I WANT to play that game so bad.
but it's waiting on my ssd until 40 series
fading glacier
barely hit 70fps on 1080p doom eternal ultra everything... no rtx ofc
hasty sphinx
I almost bought that 6900xt today
cerulean sinew
Both are good options but if you're okay with yours at the moment I'd wait for 4...
don't think I'll wait till then
hasty sphinx
don't think I'll wait till then
just like 2-3 months away though.
could possibly save up enough for the 4090 and have a fatttty upgrade.
heady turtle
The wait isn't worth it for some people
hasty sphinx
the way it was explained to me..
cerulean sinew
They won't release the 4070 instantly right?
hasty sphinx
is that the newest upcoming games being released in 2023 will need the 40 series to fully play the game?
fading glacier
last time it was delayed a month
heady turtle
They won't release the 4070 instantly right?
Nope, 4080 +4090 and then maybe a month later 4070 is the leak
hasty sphinx
then they do the Ties right?
heady turtle
is that the newest upcoming games being released in 2023 will need the 40 series...
I don't think so
fading glacier
ti usually come between 70 and 60
hasty sphinx
I don't think so
idk, that's what Escanor was saying or something like that
heady turtle
then they do the Ties right?
That depends, the release schedule after xx80 and xx70 fluctuates per gen
fading glacier
so, maybe december for ti versions
heady turtle
ti usually come between 70 and 60
3080 ti came after 3060 iirc
fading glacier
well... some tis
xD
i mean 3090ti was the last one
but they usually start spawning between 70 and 60
60ti came before the 60 if im not mistaken
weird indeed
fading glacier
damn
heady turtle
fading glacier
80 and 80ti were a year apart
heady turtle
Yep
fading glacier
weird schedule if you ask me
nvidia shenanigans
for now, on 40 series we are running on rumors only
take everything related with a truck load of salt
2 to 3 months, maybe more, maybe less
hasty sphinx
yeah, but looking at previous releases, they fall into a pattern so while they are rumours..
it's predictable.
heady turtle
Ehh
hasty sphinx
not the tis though
fading glacier
they are, weird... like 1 year between 70 a 70 ti,
hasty sphinx
but the first releases of the
fading glacier
and the 60ti came before the 60
hasty sphinx
series
fading glacier
like... ok?
heady turtle
10 vs 20
cerulean sinew
Also as the leaks presented the power consumption on the 40series is massive, right?,
heady turtle
Eh on the higher end yes but not really a huge jump mid range
hasty sphinx
idk. been up 24 hours so meh
heady turtle
I mean 3070s already take up to 300w depending on the model
fading glacier
they are expecting 600w on the 4090
but then again, could be less in the end
maybe the lower models will be in the 200-300w range
sonic mural
Oh it may very well be higher
fading glacier
60s and 70s
fading glacier
yeah, those leaks are rumors for now, and expectations
fading glacier
thats outrageous on a single piece of hardware, may as well plug the card directly to the outlet
fading glacier
while amd cards are trying to save power
if rt performance ends being the same as now, amd will win the price/performance race again 😄
hasty sphinx
Anyone with a multi rail only unit is gonna have a fun time 😛
oooo I think I have a single rail.
sonic mural
if rt performance ends being the same as now, amd will win the price/performance...
Amd has already won that
cerulean sinew
I actually waited with my 1080 for the 3070, couldn't buy it because of the high prices that's why I can't imagine waiting for the 40 series :):
fading glacier
hell even a 1070 could hold its ground until 40 series
cerulean sinew
I mean 1070*
fading glacier
well, now we are talking
cerulean sinew
Could lmao
fading glacier
me on a 650gt... no sir, cant wait any more xD, now on a 3060ti... i will wait till rtx 60xx series or its amd counterpart depending on the price/performance in the next 5 years
vital oriole
im happily gaming with just a 850m
but some games does happen to be too hard to run
fading glacier
thats why ill get a pcie4 mobo this time... no need for pcie5 cause my next upgrade will be in 5 years.. mobo, cpu, everything
and pcie5 is wasted on current gpu cards
sonic mural
3090ti can in productivity
fading glacier
yup, but i wont find an 13th gen mobo with pcie3 anyway xD
vital oriole
hm, alright
sonic mural
Barely
vital oriole
but tbh 3090ti is like absolute highest end of geforce
would be stupid to put it into older system
fading glacier
it will barely bottleneck its 4 lanes xD
vital oriole
lol
bright gazelle
1080 is a solid card
yeah
i used to game on it in 2022 and it still manage to run perfectly
even in cyberpunk high 1440p lol
green ibex
hello
nocturne nest
Should i get the 3050 for 250 or the 3060 for 400
fading glacier
a 6600xt for less than 400
nocturne nest
Quite a bit better than the 3060 too
do u know of any cpu's that would go well with it?
under 300
heady turtle
12400f
nocturne nest
that are also amd
heady turtle
Or 12400 if that's within 10-15$
heady turtle
that are also amd
You already have an am4 board?
nocturne nest
which is better
livid idol
That would age better and multitask better than a 6 core part
heady turtle
5600 is more balanced with 6650xt
If gaming I'd spend budget for 5700x on 6700xt instead
livid idol
That's true, jumping up a tier in GPU and saving a bit on CPU would be the better move
livid idol
Which case?
nocturne nest
what
livid idol
That case is a hotbox
livid idol
Idle doesn't matter
livid idol
Basically the same yeah
livid idol
The Eagle is 8mm longer than the Qick I sent though
nocturne nest
wha
OH
lmao i was reading memory clock speed on the 1st one u sent
that said 17
livid idol
Both should fit anyway
rich wraith
hi folks, trying to undervolt my laptop 3070, and I am a total noob. i have the curve peak set at 1635 mhz and my mV is set to 768, but sometimes my gpu runs at 1620 clock speed by itself even though the peak is 1635. At these settings, it is stable on furmark at around 73-74c (on 1080p at 8x MSAA) after running for a few minutes. Is this pretty good? Just looking for some confirmation that I did things right. If i try to use 762 mV at 1635, furmark will crash
livid idol
It's expected to drop a boost bin or more under load, that's not an issue.
You're at above the stock frequency and below stock voltage so I'd call that a win.
rich wraith
Awesome, thank you. Guess I just need to test some games now
bright bolt
I have this NVIDIA GeForce GTX 650 I want to stream with it while having software such as StreamLabs, VTube Studios and well a game at medium - low settings can I do it?
I seen this video here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hTu5VY_onL0 and this seems a bit... optimistic.
keen nacelle
I doubt it'll handle much
fading glacier
thats gpu abuse, you should be punished
livid idol
It depends on what exactly you want to play with it. Maybe cs:go? Sure. Skyrim? Sure. Cyberpunk 2077? Not on your life
quasi flicker
Does anyone happen to know what size of thermal pads I need to replace the stock ones on a Gigabyte 2070 Super Windforce 3X so I'm not sure waiting forever for Gigabyte to respond?
quiet shuttle
Funny gpu blinking red when its off and on it did this when I first built it since I am new to that and it's doing it again goes off when I unplugged the power and reset it
Pls @ me I have chats muted
lone pond
Get a 6600, 6600 XT or wait for 3060 prices to go down?
velvet grail
Is a used 450€ 2080 super worth it? Should I wait for prices to drop and people choosing better prices for their gpus?
Because I also see it's almost the same as the 3060ti which is over 500€
(Used)
heady turtle
Get a 6600, 6600 XT or wait for 3060 prices to go down?
If you have the budget, depending on budget 6650xt
heady turtle
Is a used 450€ 2080 super worth it? Should I wait for prices to drop and people ...
It's decent
velvet grail
:)
livid idol
Funny gpu blinking red when its off and on it did this when I first built it sin...
That doesn't look very "off" to me with the RGB on. It's probably in a sleep state that's allowing RGB to run off 5V standby power, and the GPU sees the 5V power on the slot and expects 12V power from the 8 pin connector, which is off.
quasi flicker
Are there any thermal pads that I should stay away from or any that I should specifically try to get to replace the ones on my GPU?
2070 Super btw
fading glacier
the thermal pads on the memory have no effect on your cpu temps btw
rustic pulsar
my rgb wont turn on <:Copium:912182939352174602>
which gpu?
rustic pulsar
it lights up but i though that whole bar lights up as well
no its just the logo, u could probably find an rgb strip if you really wanted
rustic pulsar
its just white rn
gigabyte uses RGB fusion, you can download it here https://www.gigabyte.com/MicroSite/512/rgb2.html
hollow zephyr
thx
quasi flicker
Thermal pads on my GPU ripped when I was taking it apart to replace thermal paste, any recommendations for good replacements?
I think I need 0.5 and 0.75
The current pads are compressed to 0.10 and 0.20
heady turtle
Thermaltake? I think odessy pads
heady turtle
never remember which thermal one it is :D
heady turtle
mx5
livid idol
yep
quasi flicker
Anything else that's good?
livid idol
Noctua NT-H2
Thermal Grizzly kryonaut
MX-5 is just usually the cheapest of the top options
They all perform roughly the same
lilac cave
I finally got the gtx 1060 6gb ive been waiting for! But my power supply isn't powerful enough, so now i gotta buy a new one...
livid idol
Really? For a 1060? What do you have, a 350W?
lilac cave
Yeep
livid idol
If you have a low power CPU then that should be enough tbh
lilac cave
My pc said I have to connect the power cable to my graphics card. So, i looked, and I have one 6 pin cable, and it for my usb stuff
lilac cave
If you have a low power CPU then that should be enough tbh
I have a intel core i7 4770
ivory herald
Mx5 is the one that had a recall I heard about. Mx2/mx4 would also be decent. 8g of mx2 was good for me. 
livid idol
Maybe you're mixing it up with the Mazda MX5 lol
But really, there was just a bad batch of paste. They've been pulled from the shelves.
normal hawk
Is that a new sports car or somethin?
lone pond
livid idol
I figured. If it didn't post without that then where would people putting custom waterblocks be
lone pond
I just wish I could put the cables behind the gpu
lolll fair
gpu fan header is trash lol
no fan control at all
wattman's like fans are running at 0 rpm
livid idol
It probably has the PWM and tachometer pins switched
GPU makers do crap like that all the time
livid idol
On my last GPU there was a 4 pin header but each fan was only 3 pins, the fourth pin was just a tachometer for the second fan
lone pond
It probably has the PWM and tachometer pins switched
fair enough lol
well I heard radeon cards are just generally bad for custom fans
livid idol
Probably oddly shaped heasinks if I had to guess
hasty sphinx
<@396513761550270464> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/980676251779997746/...
Are you getting reduced temps then?
Thats pretty cool.
livid idol
That is the big question yes, let's see some comparison data
I has to be quieter at least if not cooler
lone pond
Are you getting reduced temps then?
yes
and I haven't even repasted it yet
this is just a fan test lol
need some more cable ties to reinforce the fans
but yeah it dabbles at 110C with OCCT 3D benchmark at 100% shader complexity 3
livid idol
Junction temp is your VRAM, only thing to help that is a repad
lone pond
Junction temp is your VRAM, only thing to help that is a repad
someone told me that junction was the die
livid idol
Who did?
livid idol
Oh wait it's different on AMD
On Nvidia Junction is the VRAM but apparently on AMD it's the hotspot
lone pond
yeah
livid idol
So yes repaste
lone pond
livid idol
I wish they'd use standardized naming smh
lone pond
So yes repaste
I got 3 tubes of kryonaut
ivory herald
That temp spread is insane also
livid idol
Yeah a spread like that indicates a bad mount or paste spread
lone pond
oh yes
livid idol
Spread being the difference between the average and hotspot
lone pond
yep i paid off the mounting as I just wanted to see if the fans would work
I already made the mistake of having bad thermal pads
magic wing
lone pond
and literally wasting an entire tube of kryonaut bc of repaste after the repaste to troubleshoot the issue
for now this is ok for me
ivory herald
yea for instance on most nvidias hotspot is maybe 10-15 above "core". 
lone pond
25%
livid idol
I'll probably put conductonaut (liquid metal) on when I do my custom loop
magic wing
Thats the best part about amd reference cards
lone pond
I heard that wasn't a long term solution
lone pond
they use liquid metal?
magic wing
Nope graphite pad
livid idol
I heard that wasn't a long term solution
Liquid metal? If you do it right it's fine for at least a few years
magic wing
I thought those were bad
not as good as good paste, but it never dries up
livid idol
Graphite pads are a little lower performance than most stock paste
lone pond
^
magic wing
its not bad tho
lone pond
it's a cute idea
livid idol
Yeah it's still usable
lone pond
Liquid metal? If you do it right it's fine for at least a few years
so what's a "good" liquid metal job lol
livid idol
A much thinner layer than you would paste that's for sure
lone pond
you're temping me to look into conductonaught
oh really?
can it leak out of your die?
not die
livid idol
You absolutely under no circumstances want that to spread off the die because if it touches caps your card is fried
lone pond
yeah die
magic wing
gaming
lone pond
yeah
magic wing
btw falcie current is edge of the die while junction is center of the die
livid idol
Interesting
lone pond
interesting
I always thought it was the whole card?
idek lol
people say gpu package or smth
magic wing
how many watts?
75W but fans were basically off
livid idol
Package is usually a power term
magic wing
i was playing a mobile game lmao
lone pond
75W but fans were basically off
oh lol
lone pond
2800??
lone pond
not even my stock fans went that high lol
magic wing
they at 2900 rn
magic wing
Imma UV this card
lone pond
honkai impact actually maxes out my OC for some reason
I'm reading dialogue
and my gpu is literally dying clocking in at 2.6GHz
actually I lied
2.4GHz in a dialogue
hasty sphinx
tbh im never repasting my card
Why?
fading glacier
2.4GHz in a dialogue
but that should be ok, gpu load should be ideally at 100%... i mean i should worry if somehow my gpu works below 90%
lone pond
but that should be ok, gpu load should be ideally at 100%... i mean i should wor...
How is that ok when my max overclock is 2.6GHz lol
fading glacier
oh
lone pond
there are other games that I run at ultra graphics which use SMAA but manage to run at 1.6GHz or lower lol
final smelt
honkai impact actually maxes out my OC for some reason
is this game good? was thinking of downloading it since it's free
lone pond
is this game good? was thinking of downloading it since it's free
If you're in it for the story it's a great game but if you wana play competitively then you'll have to strap yourself in for the long term as progressing is incredibly slow for a f2p and the meta shifts very rapidly
final smelt
If you're in it for the story it's a great game but if you wana play competitive...
is it similar to genshin?
lone pond
is it similar to genshin?
nah it's alot more fast paced
abyss is also competitive in honkai as you have to beat other people to get the big rewards
and be prepared for alot of loading
final smelt
i'll download it
seems cool
i just realized it's made by the same creators of genshin
lone pond
this thing is literally cruising at 2.6GHz
the gpu is so well cooled that its pushing itself towards instability
so much artifacting
I think voltage needs to be pushed
2.63GHz the whole way through
lilac cave
Does anyone have a recommendation fora power supply I should use for my PNY GTX 1060 6GB?
I'd only be using it for the graphics card. My current one is fine, it just can't run the motherboard and GPU at the same time.
I have the power adapter cable, so I just need a power supply with two 6 pin power cables, or one 8 pin power cable.
I know I know, it's a little dusty, I clean it out every one in a while.
fading glacier
any psu will have its own power adapter anyway 😛
lilac cave
But is there a specific power supply that you'd recommend that has either two 6 pin cables or one 8 pin cable?
fading glacier
any A or B tier psu should do fine with you as long as you target anything above 550w
dont go to C tier
as for the gpu power cables, not to worry all the modern psu bring their own psu power cables as well
this one as an example https://www.newegg.com/evga-supernova-650-gt-220-gt-0650-y1-650w/p/N82E16817438186
lilac cave
any A or B tier psu should do fine with you as long as you target anything above...
I was kinda shooting for a minimum of 400w. Tha is the minimum for my gpu. I'm only getting another power supply to just run my gpu
fading glacier
well your card has a tdp of 120w, plus lets say 250w for the rest of the system, that puts you at 370w.... you can go well at 550w with a lot of headroom
A tier is mostly 750w units, tier B should do fine on your system
750 is way too much overkill on your wallet as well
lilac cave
well your card has a tdp of 120w, plus lets say 250w for the rest of the system,...
Again, only need the power supply to run the gpu. My other one that is already in my pc will run the rest of the system.
fading glacier
why do you want 2 power supplies on the same pc when you can go well with only one?
there is no psu below 300w worth the money
you can run your whole system on just one at 650
and they are cheaper
the one i linked is at 65 usd, and im sure there are units far cheaper and equal or better on quality
keen nacelle
I was kinda shooting for a minimum of 400w. Tha is the minimum for my gpu. I'm o...
Asus tuf 550 is cheap rn
lilac cave
why do you want 2 power supplies on the same pc when you can go well with only o...
Idk if my motherboard is compatible with a newer power supply
Everything I have is from 2013
fading glacier
which mobo do you have
most mobos are atx compatible, even the older ones
if it runs on 24 pin connector + 4 cpu connector, then its probably fine
lilac cave
which mobo do you have
It was like, mww something something. Lemme put my pc back together her and IL double check.
fading glacier
i have a 4770 on an h81 mobo... same age as yours most likely, and its fully compatible with today's psus
lilac cave
i have a 4770 on an h81 mobo... same age as yours most likely, and its fully com...
I have a Intel core i7 4770
fading glacier
figures
lilac cave
XDI
fading glacier
then youll be fine
lilac cave
I'm not joking. Lol. Core i7 4770
fading glacier
opps
that thing does not have a 24 pin power connector
well, this is beyond me, hopefully a techie can help you with that
lilac cave
i have a 4770 on an h81 mobo... same age as yours most likely, and its fully com...
Should I get a ATX or ATX micro power supply then?
fading glacier
not sure at this point, dell have some strange connectors
lilac cave
Tre
*true
My dad gave it to me cause it was getting too slow for him so I'm slowly upgrading it.
fading glacier
this is quite the rarity
lilac cave
A GPU wa the last thing I needed. But now I need a power supply. Lol
fading glacier
and those things run on special psus
lilac cave
this is quite the rarity
Yep, that's my motherboard.
fading glacier
yikes, most folks will advice you to upgrade your whole system, sadly dell make those computers on a 0 upgradeability outside dell own support policy
ouch 250w psu on your rig
now it makes sense why you cant power your gpu
fading glacier
for now just wait for some techie to help you, i have no experience on double psu configurations like the one you need to power your gpu sadly 😦 sorry that i cant help you man 😦
im sure they will help you when they wake up 🙂
lilac cave
It's fine man. I've driven a lot of people nuts with trying to figure out what compatible and what's not. Lol
They say my pc is... "unique"
keen nacelle
A GPU wa the last thing I needed. But now I need a power supply. Lol
You can leave the psu in there to power the mobo/cpu and everything else, and then have a psu outside of the case powering the gpu