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Looks like 1080p low it fluctuates from 250 down to 80
The 1060 would still crush that
Plus 3% oc
Lol
So, the GT 1030 Is slightly netter than the GTX 950?
Userbenchmark says otherwise (by a lot) but...
No the 1030 is a bad choice still
But so is just about any 900 series card if you plan to use it for a year or more
Since nvidia will be dropping support
Awww
Bruh
Wait, if it drops support i can still use it with regularly updated games right?
Like fortnite for example
If the support is dropped at the driver level, games that currently run will continue to run but any new games will not be optimized and may not work at all.
Additionally any future boosts in performance by improving drivers will not apply to things that are past their support lifetime.
Oof
If a game makes a significant change to the graphics engine it's possible that without the new driver to support it, the game will become unstable or fail to run.
Anything in that price bracket will be used from third party sellers on newegg anyway
The only new card that's close to that price is the 6500XT which unless you have a PCIe 4.0 system is worse than the 1060.
If you can save another 50 or so you could sometimes reach for a 3050 from evga or something
Yeah on the newegg marketplace it looks like 1060 3gb models are $215+
Ew
I'm still saying you should do the ebay one, the seller has almost 30k rep at 99.5% positive. That's REALLY hard to maintain.
!ubm
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In fact, they tried so hard to skew results in favor of Intel's midrange that they even cannibalized Intel's own high end. For example, according to UserBenchmark, the i3-9350K is rated higher than the i9-10980XE.
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Already did that lol
Oh lol
Didn't see it so just thought it should be known that ubm pulls figures out of thin air
I have a pcie 3 supported motherboard
If you can push the budget to $200 you can get a 1070 from ebay even
Ill look on ebay buuuut... they're a little sketchy
Just look at the seller profile, scammers are pretty obvious once you do
I know when a deal is too good to be true
Not if you actually read the description and check sellers sell history (i only buy if they have 100% good feedback) I'd never trust a 0 sales account, you can always message the seller before hand too
Another sign is if the seller has sold other tech stuff or if they mostly sell purses and crap
Also I've seen a lot of 0 sales accounts selling 30 series cards from Ukraine and i mean they could be real especially considering their position right now but i just wouldn't
I personally don't mind what they have sold in the past, could be selling for a friend etc
Sure but combined with other flags like the account not having sales in the last 6 months, it looks more sus.
Personally i don't think that, like i literally have 1 seller and 1 buyer review on eBay ¯_(ツ)_/¯
I just don't sell stuff much
And that's fine, but when you're trying to sell high demand, high value items like PC parts, people tend to be a bit more guarded
I'm almost 100% sure this is from a mining farm btw @heady turtle , no one else would have that many identical used cards and keep all the boxes.
And yes, they have a pic with a ton of the boxes.
Imo frequent isn't a matter cuz what if you're just selling your old gpu if you upgraded like, as long as a few reviews all good idm
Yeah you're probably right
Weird thing is the plastic on the boxs
There's a few accounts like that sure, but every time someone has tried to scam me on ebay, as a buyer and seller, it's been from a really low rep or inactive (possibly stolen) account.
Fair enough
One of the recent attempts to scam me, I specifically listed this as "NO DELIVERY, PICKUP ONLY"
This is probably fake and i have never seen nvidia make this gpu at all
It's a Nvidia GPU but not the model it states and the shroud is just 3rd party cheap plastic
^
I just found a GeForce GT 440 in my dads old "super" computer
(2011)
Lol
Sry for the long link. I put a lot of filters in.
smh
learn to trim yo links
Kk
Does this look like a scam? 99.4% seller posaitive reviews. 37 sold. The seller is a businesses.
No, a 1050 ti for $195 is not a good deal when I already found you a 1070 for $200 and a 1060 6gb for $170.
Bruh
What about this? https://www.ebay.com/itm/125307886509?hash=item1d2cee9bad%3Ag%3A7IEAAOSwm99ie0Qg&LH_BIN=1
All this dude sells is graphics cards
And he has 6 of these
So
Im skeptical
I like, almost never use ebay cause a prefer stuff new. So idk if this is a scam or not
Says 30 day free returns
Top rated plus seller, looks good to me
Kk
Is there a reason why most GPUs on the market won't show the side where the power connectors go? Just a trend I noticed.
In the pictures I mean
Most gpus do
maybe shady third party sellers dont show it to fake a card, but most (if not all) reputable sellers show pictures of the card from every angle, including the one with the extra power connectors
So this is fun.
Installed windows XP on a laptop that I know supports it.
Installed the graphics driver (Intel HD Graphics) and now the screen goes off when the resolution is increased higher than 800x600
I fixed it 🙂
Hmm
upgraded from my 1080 ti to a 2080. So far the OC is impressing atm
okay so my 3070 is the asussy one with the tige on the box
Anyone know if this will work with my build? https://www.amazon.ca/MSI-GeForce-RTX-3060-12G/dp/B08WPRMVWB/
The GeForce RTX 3060 lets you take on the latest games using the power of Ampere, NVIDIA's 2nd generation RTX architecture. Get incredible performance with enhanced Ray Tracing Cores and Tensor Cores, new streaming multiprocessors, and high-speed G6 memory.
My Custom Build - AMD Ryzen 5 3600, GeForce RTX 3060 Ti LHR, Corsair 275R Airflow ATX Mid Tower
ti is too expensive
if you don't mind losing on rt perf
i'd suggest getting 6700xt lol
same price as 3060 rn
but 3060ti perf
also is this build already a thing or is it just a list?
have you bought anything in that list?
Have you bought anything
everything but a gpu
Did you just order them?
no
Return the parts you bought
PC Builder - Intel Core i5-12400F, GeForce RTX 3060 Ti LHR, Phanteks Eclipse P360A ATX Mid Tower
I dont think I can
F
I have had them for a while
Fat rip then
so this gpu Will work?
yep
Could go for this https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/product/B9H7YJ/powercolor-radeon-rx-6650-xt-8-gb-hellhound-video-card-axrx-6650xt-8gbd6-3dhloc
About equal to a 2080 iirc
what is 2080 iirc
iirc = if i remember correctly
Gonna wisen up on the acronyms. 
I would. Ray tracing is overall generally overhyped too.
true
u sure this is compatible? cant find this one on the gpu list
yes?
does this make it easier... https://www.amazon.ca/dp/B09VYHB8XG?tag=pcp0f-20&linkCode=ogi&th=1&psc=1
I just wanna make sure its compatible lol
🤣
How much do you think retail price for 4090
I'd imagine around 1500-1700
I assume the retail price for 3000 series is gonna go down?
Don't bet on 3000 prices dropping much further after 4000 drops
I was just wondering because im interested in prices and I already have a gpu
Previously, retail prices basically didn't do anything when new gen comes out, used prices drop significantly, and there might be more sales on retail pricing, but they really go down lower
Today, I say retail ampere prices are probably going to drop down to pre-covid retail prices in a couple of months before lovelace, but no further
if you have already a gpu why the interest on prices?
o.O
Because they want to upgrade lol
Yo I'm deciding on whether to get the 3060 ti gigabyte 8g oc and the zotac twin oc any suggestions? Should I look for a different brand?
whatever is cheapest
are you in the US?
Also,is a 600 w evga bronze psu enough.Im running an 8700k(yes i will upgrade a bit later
Yes
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/7whFf7/msi-radeon-rx-6700-xt-12-gb-mech-2x-video-card-radeon-rx-6700-xt-mech-2x-12g also a good option
what specific evga psu
model matters
and 8700k fine to pair with a 3060 ti
i would replace that
C tier psu
also $600 3070 https://pcpartpicker.com/product/xfGbt6/gigabyte-geforce-rtx-3070-lhr-8-gb-eagle-oc-rev-20-video-card-gv-n3070eagle-oc-8gd-rev-20
Gigabyte GeForce RTX 3070 LHR 8 GB EAGLE OC Rev 2.0 Video Card (GV-N3070EAGLE OC-8GD Rev 2.0)
Alright thanks I will look into it
psu prices suck badly rn though
is that 600 dollar 3070 temps fine?
Ye
If you can wait with the 570 for a few months personally i would at this stage but 3070 for 600 is goos
yeah but my friend has like a hd 5700 somthing like that and every time i tell him im getting a new gpu i tell him to wait a fweq months but now i got a job and yeah
i was going to give him my rx 570
but how long do you think it would last?
Just picked this thing up at Walmart for $449.
$50 above 3060 retail price but cmon look at that cooler.
Temps seem to range in the 60-63C range, which is actually really good full NVIDIA boost.
looks cool
Oh one of the XC's?
Yeah I've had some of those before cool cards.
But does it say KO KO in RGB?
Worth 100%

All it's gonna be doing is F@H. The PPD difference between a 3060 Ti & 3060 is 2.1 Mil VS 2.7 Mil. Very close F@H performance.
EVGA actually has a 3060 XC in stock right now for $399
That's below retail
Sheeesh
Man
Anyone who needs a GPU
Now is the time
There everywhere
4000 is around the corner tho sooo...
But that's one of those old debates the performance of 30 series is still really really good, so while you could wait for 40 series to be in stock if 30 series is in stock at or below retail price and your happy with the performance of 30 series it makes sense to get what's available now if you need it.
am saving up for new pc, hopefully i can save up enough to do new gen build but probably wont be able to 
Nope
3050 smashes 1080P alone.
3060 is a complete monster for 1080P & can dip into 1440P.
Now 4K well...now your looking more toward the big boys.
im going to be going for a 4080 at msrp
if stock is bad
I'm not
if its good, ill be waiting for below msrp
I'm waiting for Intel Arc.
Def gonna swap my 3080 for Arc.
Might throw the 3080 in this new F@H PC I'm building.
Well games that are out now or that have been out will continue to run well on that same card for as long as the card works.
Watcha gotta watch out for is these new games running on new engines at higher detail levels and expecially if you choose to run at higher 4K/8K resolution.
Which is now I understand why so many people still have 1060s.
It all makes sense.
I have zero plans to change monitors.
My Samsung is fine.
4K monitor? High Refresh Rate? Sheeeesh $500-600 nahhh
And then have games perform with worse FPS because of the resolution for slightly better detail quality. When 1440P was fine to begin with.

All the 4K monitor chads are about to enter the chat I feel it.
I don't physically have a big enough desk for that.
And if I did do multi monitor I'd do 3 so I could game on the center one.
The only use I'd have for it would be YouTube/Discord on the other monitor while I'm gaming.
yeah, everyone who owns a 30 series now could theoretically skip this gen and wait for rtx 50xx series
ill enjoy my 3060ti for the next 4 years at least
people with a 16 series or high 10/900 series could skip 4000 series
true, unless you are willing to spend on a 4k setup, i mean, im very happy at 1440p with mine
on a 3090, yeah
a jump from a 3090 could be a sidestep at worst and a minor upgrade at best
not worth the coin
im going to be rebuilding later this year with 13th gen, and then sometime next year ill be hopefully grabbing a 4070/4080
same, i was tempted to go for the 12700f but ill save more for a 13th gen later this year
and then save for the next big boi on 4k
some couple years
for me i just dont have life expenses, being 16
im saving for college but i can splurge a bit on a gpu
lol
he have a point
mining is also paying for a good bit of my upgrades
good ol proof of work
there will be other coins to mine
you'r mom
nah
she wasnt in the first place, somehow
mining do really be dying
i need to find a good oc for ergo soon
i just leave it on since we have solar
rommy english wizard
unfortunately i have school tmrw
my grades are actually doing well this year
for the first time since 6th grade
Evening. Trying to figure out a little issue I'm having... FMV in games and regular videos are giving me some sort of... Pixelation? Artifacting? Not sure how to describe it. It's circled in the screenshot. The effect is pretty jarring, especially in the darks. GPU is a Gigabyte Radeon 6900 XT Gaming OC 16G running a standard setup via Adrenalin. Monitor is an MSI Optix G27CQ4 set for max res and 144Hz. Thanks.
I can't see it
You have to take a picture of the monitor itself, it won't show in screenshots
Unless you mean that darker black patch, then it's dithering effect
It's a normal thing
Greetings
I would like to know as a result on your Intel
So I'm just say my problem is that my computer freezes... Or so I thought but then I played a game and I was listening to music so if a computer freezes it shouldn't play music in a way (had PC freezing problem/ so I built a PC so I thought I could run from problems but also learn what each part does so I don't feel dum when I ask for help lol )
So for short I fully understand what all PC parts do and the purpose of them
But I think I don't fully understand what a graphic card does)
Please correct me
So graphics card has
Ram = to store images?
And this VRAM is what's it's called actually.
And may have some what a cpu ?
Aka the CUDA CPU?
And when picking it's GDDR and the number and X exp (GDDR6X ) is the top type also after is ram exp 2 -4 - 8 - 12-24 size of ram
Do you mind explaining what the band width is for I don't understand what's it for?
And this graphic card is ment to send images fps as fast a possible to your monitor
Any way
Back to my problem
When I use my computer it sometimes freezes on regularly bases like opening lots of surch tabs and transfer files from drive Listening to music and also I only have one monitor
So let's say it happens 10 a month
But when I play a game like valorant my screen just stops I can't hear the game but my music still playes
I can't check task manager because it's froze so I looked up what to do and shut down was my only cure to bring my screen back
When I unplugged my cable from my gpu my screen gose black well as one of the method of it before shutting it down
Also I haven't thought about trying to do all this and play my game and do all this for 10 minutes then I jumped to task manager and found all of it working at a 100% so that means it can't handle it:( I think
Also I found something fantastic for those of u that have problems with graphics card problems
I haven't tested it out yet but if you press ( windows key ~ CRTL ~SHIFT ~ B )
It seems to clear the GPU and the screen comes back
So found it useful
Anyway please Ping me and help me understand definitely talked to much so
I'm go to bed and continue this conversation later
The GPU has VRAM that it uses to process whatever the GPU or actual processor is processing and in this processor there are "cores" NVIDIA calls them CUDA Cores among other technologies/cores depending on the specific GPU.
The total "bandwidth" is the total data it can transfer. AKA a bandwidth of (Enter amount here)
As far as your issue that sounds like a RAM issue to me based on the locking up.
I'd test your system piece by piece.
Like run a memory benchmark like memcheck 64 to start and make sure your RAM passes that test.
If your RAM passes that move onto a CPU test something simple like Cinebench R15.
Then if that passes move on to a GPU test like Superposition 1080P which should only stress the GPU.
All of these programs are free. Except memcheck 64 is free but you will need to install it on a flashdrive then boot to it from the flashdrive through your BIOS and run it.
I'd recommend an 8GB flashdrive.
I'm trying to do official Techie work here.
Test mem5 extreme anta77 profile would be a better ram stress test
Also cinebench is more a benchmark I'd recommend occt cpu or prime 95 small blend or something for stability testing
@humble herald Yeah Pato has another program here... whatever works but the point here for you is you need to test your PC one component at a time to find your issue.
Yeah true but they just need to run something to see if it's gonna lock up.
To me it sound like it locks up pretty easy so I was just thinking simple quick programs to run to test each component.
Whatever one fails is gonna be your issue.
I'm 100% leaning towards RAM based on the description. But we shall see place your bets now.
I'm gonna sleep now. Good luck my friend try some of the programs we listed here to pin point your issue. Best of luck to you.
GFUEL
Now, I am coming from a several year old potato laptop, so if this is something normal I have to get used to with a bigger screen and better GPU... I suppose I'll have to... Heh.
It's much clearer what I'm talking about in this shot.
seems like maybe smearing issues
First would be update/rollback GPU drivers, then check around monitor settings, could try upping the monitor response time setting to "fastest"
And then in this one, there's like... A chunky color bleed into the black border at the bottom (near the mouse cursor)
Backlight bleed is semi-common on monitors
Hm. Okay.
but try this
Driver updated last night, didn't see a difference between before and after... Would a rollback be to a "known good"? Because this is a new build as of a few days ago, and I updated all my drivers out of the box.
Yes
Also, adjusted monitor from Fast to Fastest refresh. No discernable difference.
Could try the anti-motion blur mode, although that also makes things dark iirc
Check adrenaline for anything related to motion blur
Would I set Motion Blur at the monitor, or Adrenalin? Or both?
Turn them off anywhere applicable, and the anti-motion-blur option is just something you can test
Okay, so anti-motion blur was off on the monitor on those pictures. Can't seem to find anything specifically called anti-motion blur in Adrenalin.
that's a thing in the monitor OSD
I'm looking at the same vid on another laptop and the dual screens I have hooked up to it, and I'm seeing the same thing... Maybe a slight less pronounced, but... Maybe I'm just expecting too much out of this new setup.
maybe the image itself is the problem and not your setup
if the same issue appears on different setups
Which gpu are you looking at?
Oh okay
so currently I have a RX 5500 and my frames keep dropping is a lot of my games so Im thinking about getting a new one
im in the 400$ budget range
Like a new rx5500 or a different gpu
I would probably recommend the rx 6600
You can probably find them for around 360
@wooden fern is the one I sent you the rx 6600
Yeah that is probably the best rx 6600 price around
ok thank you
And xfx makes good coolers too
is that like a pretty big upgrade from the rx5500
Yes
ok thanks
It has double the vram that the rx 5500 has
dang
@wooden fern im thinking on purchasing it
so if i were to get it would I just have to take out my current one and put the new one in
Also a good option https://pcpartpicker.com/product/zGFbt6/xfx-radeon-rx-6650-xt-8-gb-speedster-qick-308-ultra-video-card-rx-665x8ludy
Vram doesn't measure performance
question
so assuming 40 series comes out soon will there also be new cpus and other stuff coming out soon?
13th gen intel will likely be coming sometime around November if I had to guess
With 7000 series being early next year/late this year
But those are guesses
and 40 series is rumored for july right?
Yea around then, maybe August
Ye?
so im currently on a rx 5500
and im looking to upgrade
in like a 300-400 dollar budget
because my frames are dropping massivly
6600XT, maybe the 6700.
. 3060 ti is good but sort of overpriced. 6700 XT is great
ok
do any of yall know why my frames are dropping
or how to fix it
because my frams will be high when im looking at like the floor but when I look around it will drop my frames to like 50 and 60
i currently have a gtx 970, and looking to upgrade for upcoming modern warfare ii, whats a good gpu in the $200-350ish price range?
hoping for this one to last me a good while also, so if it goes over 350 a little bit i can work some stuff out
6600XT or 6700. Look at my previous msg, lol.
yeah i saw but didnt know if someone else would reply with another opinion xd
ive never had an amd, is there really any diff between that and nvidia?
Nvidia mainly has the nvenc chip so better for streaming, & certain GPUs are also better in certain games. I like the 3070, but would be nice if it was ez to be had for $450ish near what the FE is. Crazy to barely see msrp more than a year after release, but only for now I think
What's your cpu
can i ask what nvidia gpu would you recommend for me? not the 3070, too much monies
I know you mentioned $350ish max, but the 3060 ti is a moderate 20-25% faster than 3060, & a 3050 would be generally not sugggested at all because that one is beat by a 2060/1080. There's FEs or deals to be had, but not nearly as often as amd prices.
ah man computers are confusing
if i can get like 120fps on low/medium settings in a game like warzone (higher intensity on the computer) ill be happy
I'd try for a 3060, otherwise I'd go amd
3050s and 6600s are same price, and 6600 is a good bit better
It's about 5% worse than a 3060, and tends to be about $70-100 cheaper
So definitely a good choice
Also when companies get used to the new consoles. RDNA2 optimization in games will be even better than it already is for games like Forza and such
oh that does sound like a good choice. ill have to look into those more
How long should the 3070 or 3070 ti last me if I only play 1080p 144hz?
And might upgrade to 1440p
probably 3-4 years if you wanna keep maxing out
enough time to save money for a new card
1080p on a 3070 is overkill... it will last you a long long time
no it wont
4 years max imo
you wont be pushing 144fps esp in 1440p dfor 4 years
mhm
Ravell said 1080p. Lol, people love to shoot out "no, wrong". Although, gfx improve & obviously some games have crap optimization
in any case, 4 years are a lot... in fact enough time to save for another gpu... hell i could even push it to 6 years on 1080p
most likely that he/she will jump to 1440 before that, but on 1080p it will be a lot of time
speaking for myself i will work my 3060ti on 1440p for at least 4 years, then ill jump to the current gen, probably an rtx? 50xx series
by then it'll probably be 60 series even
yeah probably, jumping from a 3060ti to a 6080 seem reasonable for a gaming setup 😄
Anybody remember the Titan z?
hey does anyone know if there's a way I can tell which ASUS 3060 phoenix I have through my system information app on my pc?
no i pulled it out of a prebuild
that i bought at walmart
no
all I know is that its a ASUS 3060 phoenix but there's two versions of the ASUS 3060 phoenix
Yeah one is LHR and one is "LHR" but doesn't matter because LHR got cracked
What is the best alternative to UserBenchmark?
`UserBenchmark is NOT a reliable source of information and has been blanket banned in many hardware communities such as r/hardware and r/intel for what started as an anti-AMD bias but has spiraled into delusion.
In fact, they tried so hard to skew results in favor of Intel's midrange that they even cannibalized Intel's own high end. For example, according to UserBenchmark, the i3-9350K is rated higher than the i9-10980XE.
For a similarly convenient quick-and-dirty hardware comparison website, we recommend using PassMark instead of UserBenchmark.
PassMark CPU comparison: https://www.cpubenchmark.net/singleCompare.php
PassMark GPU comparison: https://www.videocardbenchmark.net/singleCompare.php
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download gpuz and use the lookup button there
it will take you to the techpowerup page of your current gpu
That is so much extra work for no reason
well its one solution to his problem
Tbf GPUz is useful for a lot more, and it can give revisions of the same GPU (v1 v2 v3 v4 kinda thing)
Replied to wrong message, oh well
oh
yeah i like that lil piece of software, very informative and so lightweight to the pc
Are there any speculations about when gpu prices will drop to normal?
They already are
At least for the US and Canada
Radeon GPUs are already at their msrp
Some Nvidia cards are even listed lower than their msrp, mainly on evga
How much does rtx 3070 cost in the us?
Uh, it's like around 600-700 atm
That's still not normal right?
The situation is still not that good for Nvidia cards
Radeon cards got back to normal tho
In germany they cost between 700-800€
sad thing b-stock is only for elite members
Would you get an amd graphics card to upgrade the 5600g in two years when they get inexpensive enough or something else? Are there tie-ins that are worth sticking with AMD?
Amd cpus will work with any gpu , although gpus are cheap enough now
Not if normal means near FE price, but all aib are a bit more expensive. I remember when FE had the premium price (for now reason).
No regular gamer should be considering a 3090 ti anyway. It's only like 12% better than a 3080 ti or something for double the cost.
honestly true
i'm malding though because i bought my 3090 for $2600 and the ti is 600 less than what i bought mine for
Yeah, we've been hearing that a lot honestly. I'm just glad I flipped my 3090 for what I bought it for, minus ebay fees. Then I took that money and waited in line at Best Buy for a 3080 ti that actually scored a lot better than the 3090 I had lmfao.
nice! well, maybe i'll just get over my feelings and be grateful that i have "high-end card". no use crying over spilt milk... i suppose. but since i have this extra vram, might as well learn to do some rendering and animation🤷♂️
Unity and Unreal engine coding would be good uses for that extra VRAM. Start working on a concept game. No need for a story or anything to start, just a basic time period and place will get you started on an environment.
sick, now i know what i'm going to be doing over the summer.
to be fair, i dont see the point of upsetting, you paid 2600 at that time, meaning you enjoyed your card a lot longer
was the 90 power limited?
yeah that would explain why it performed worse then the 80 ti
Yep, couldn't get it to hit 20k in Time Spy, then I get the 80 ti and I get 21k first try lol
lol nice
honestly, very true.
i also had a dual 8 pin with max wattage of 380w but it pulled 20k once and never again after that
If it makes you feel better, I essentially paid $1750 for a 3060 ti 3600 build
i won my 3060ti on a shuffle at 550, so im very happy
january i think
solid 5 months so far, came bundled with a lower b psu, but no problems so far
lower b tier is perfectly fine for gaming
what. the highest gpu score i've ever gotten was a 21,542 after oc-ing clock to 2025 and mem to 1,369
2145 Core, 1350 Memory
gahdam
i didnt have pbo on here as i had some system instability
Yup. Just shows how tight the margin is between the 80 ti and 90.
turns out that it was just the amd ftpm stuttering
damn
3080ti > 3090 fr
(for most people)
(sane people)
Yeah, and the 80 ti is only a couple % better than the regular 80 as well so if you can get that closer to msrp, the 3080 is easily the best value card out of the bunch.
regular meaning 10GB? Of course we know the 12GB model gets darn near the Ti as well. 
Yeah the $800 10GB and not the $1000 12GB
not gonna lie, i had no idea they had 2 versions of the 3080
more sane people gets 6950xt
Is that the one that'll have 24c/48t?
I'd get it just to disable SMT and let each core get the full cache available to it
Ah, yes I missed the T at the end.
Gee that's not going to be confusing at all, what great naming AMD!
lmao yep
you have to include the rx for gpus imo
otherwise its gets wayyy to confusing
I can't wait for laptops with the RX 6900HX and Ryzen 6900XT 
Is it normal for this card to be running this loud with me just sitting idle in a game
sounds normal
You think maybe it’s time for me to get a new case
Is the card too close to the glass
The line of rgb is where the glass would be
What case do you have rn?
It’s a cyberpower one - I had bought a prebuilt and put new stuff in over the years
That's perfectly fine, also you're sacrificing performance and thermals because you don't have it in your boards top pcie slot
You see this is why I need this discord
😂
No prob
Thank you again
How much was I affecting performance and thermals?
Sorry if it sounds like a dumb question - still fairly new to this
Well less air coming up to the GPU to help cool it off could affect temps by a variable margin as case design as well plays a factor and fan layouts as well
thermals a few degrees and performance depends on the motherboard
confusion
Swapped from bottom pcie to top pcie soo gpu no longer choking kek
yeah but 20c seems excessive tbh, there was some space there
yeah but a lot more
oh damn
RAWR TECHIE
Pog
question.... is it bad to revert bios on my gpu?
It's fine
how do i do it?
googling it but it isnt really giving me a way
Download tech power ups nvflash and the bios version you want to flash, if you're on nvidia anyway not sure which tool to use for AMD
But why would you want to downgrade your gpus bios?
im noticing weird input lag issues while gaming
after i updated it
for about a month
just hoping its that
could that be a chance or no
Have you tried using DDU first?
yeah
Yeah i guess try downgrading that's weird tho
but so
it works fine on the newer drivers
but for warzone its recommended for the older ones
so the 496.13 doesnt work well
but for my other pc it does
Drivers and bios are completely different
i was thinking since i updated my vbios on gpu it doesnt work as good on the older drivers
or no
bc it worked fine on them before i updated it
Nah driver version shouldn't be affected
But when you flash vbios you should DDU after
And reinstall the drivers
yeah ive ddu like 3 times but i dont tthink i ddu right after the flash
could that be my issues
but i have done it last week
and today
a ddu
Maybe look up a tutorial on how to do it
Basically, if it's a semi modern card it should have dual bios tho
It definitely has a dual bios
You should see it on the card tho, probably near the power connectors on the PCB
do microsoft visuals affect gaming at all
bc i never updated it
visual c
visualc plus
or whatever
It shouldn't
not seeing vbios
so i can download the 2nd one then?
or how do i know if its right lol
You'll know it's right when you go to flash it and nvflash doesn't complain about an ID mismatch
There should be a switch by the power connector of the card
The OC and Notmal is the bios switch
That’s a 3080 12GB FTW3 ULTRA but it should be the same for the 3080ti
I got an evga 3060 rn what should i upgrade to
I mean either way cost of current gen should reduce when nee gen comes out
you really dont need to upgrade unless you need the extra power. for gaming it should be plenty
however, if you have the funds, go ahead
Ok
true
you could youtube some versus videos to see for yourself the fps difference in some games like 2080 vs 3060, etc etc
there are a ton of those versus videos
3060 is closer to 2070 / super
ah
Yeah the gap between 3060 and 3060 ti is huge
I'd imagine, just checking out the value options between 3060 and 6700xt
rn this is what I've found in my area
6600xt/3060 -$300, 2080 -$350, 6700xt -$425 used
or 3060 ti $480 new
and for reference i have a 1080
6700xt much better than a 3060
problem is it's a reference card so warranty wont transfer
I found a asus tuf 3060 ti, but idk if that warranty will transfer either
actually do Asus and AMD reference warranties transfer if I get proof of purchase?
AMD warranties are non-transferable for sure, and they'll have the original purchaser on record since they only sell those direct.
I don't see anything that explicitly says you can't transfer an Asus warranty, but it also doesn't say you can. I'd guess as long as the original owner didn't register it in their name you could register and claim it with the original invoice.
https://www.asus.com/support/images/upload/warranty/us_Graphic Card.pdf
Pro tip is spend another $40 or w/e & buy new for an untouched gpu.
new would be $480 + tax, so I'm a bit bleh
and I would need to camp out on evga's website
For a ti sure but regular 3060 has been $400 for a while now and often in stock https://www.evga.com/products/product.aspx?pn=12G-P5-3655-KR
3060 is too slow
Too slow for what? It does 1080p max and 1440p high
1440p ultra flight sim
FS2020?
Expectations
Then either take a chance and buy used, or save more money if that's your "requirement"
And keep in mind, my 3080 ti can't even do FS 2020 on 1440p ultra
im just going with techspot, 40-50fps is fine
are there any widespread issues with the reference 6700xt?
Nothing major
ok then the options I like the most rn are the $425 6700xt amd reference, or a $460 tuf 3060 ti
both are practically brand new
asus does warranty by serial number, but amd I believe needs a receipt
It takes a 3080 ti or better to get 40 fps average on 1440p ultra
And that's with dips below 30 average in cities
Yikes. I sure like my FPS games.
- I'd get 9 fps in FS2020
Flight Simulator 2020 RTX 3060 ti + i7 10700K - 1080p , 1440p Ultra Settings
The RTX 3060ti is an absolute winner for the mainstream gamer. If you can’t afford an RTX 3070, this is the next best thing, topping even the RTX 2080 Super and blowing the doors off of 1440p, ray traced gaming. If you’re looking for 4K, you’re better off saving your pe...
it seems to be ok, high 30s
That game looks so boring lol
Flight sim? It can be. You can spice things up by enabling damage and such and taking tight turns, seeing what a plane can take.
Then there's the people that just take a 747 across the globe in a 12 hour marathon
Watching netflix or something on a second screen
Bleh lol
20% cpu? 
Some games just aren't suitable for some people
noo
Lol I was about to ask what does the 6650xt perform to in term of 30 series GPU from Nvidia in just performance alone not including dlss or fsr
In between 6600xt and 3060 ti
So in between better than 3060 and worse than 3060 ti
Now for the price that it released would you say 6650XT is worth it?
is $340 for rtx 2060 worth it?
Nah
ah yes i have that switch.. that could be causing my input lag?
when i bios flashed my gpu i had it on normal mode. but ive been using oc mode
Depends how much you find it for
A 300$ rx6600 would outperform it
Newegg has em for $399
Depends how much 6600xt is then
$380 for the cheapest I've seen so yeah $20 more for more perf can't really complain
6600xt i've seen for $380
yeah worth it then
Sheesh pretty card
How much of that is pcb and how much is just shroud and fins
I don't know why a 3060 ti needs such a massive cooler but whatever
It doesn't, that's why
At least it'll run quiet, but so much for my sff dreams
Dual fan 3060 ti cards are fine, except ventus
in fact the evga xc is pretty cheap these days
something like 480usd
and its a very good one, enough cooler for what it is
You mean this one lol
yeah that one
that cooler on the aorus 3060ti is simply overkill for the card
but nice for oc potential
the 3 slot 3060 ti?
ye lol
if not for the fact that i essentially paid $270 (w/o tax) for my ROG Strix 3060 12GB i would be upset about the cost added bc of the cooler (sold 5mo old 2060 Super for $300 in June last year)
added cost of the massive overkill cooler+ brand name
Put that aorus 60 ti next to a card like mine & it's no longer crazy big really. My strix is 300mm. 
Is there a such website where I can sell my GPU and get a direct deposit or Zelle since I want to get the AMD 6950 XT.
yeah, facebook
remember that ebay always side with the buyer
yup
Although here, you'll get whopped if you suggest anything but Paypal goods ands services 
Or I could just save up and buy the 6950 XT and give my 3080 Ti to my little bro 😂
yeah I've sold on eBay before, doesn't use PayPal it just deposits to the account then sends it to the bank as a direct deposit.
Can't handle a 3% paypal fee or something, probably shouldn't be selling. idk. Zelle is 1 of a handful of ways potential buyers can get scammed.
Unfortunately that as well.
Understood
🙂

Advice
another thing:
video output resizing or whatever causes the output to flash
stg.
ok let me edit that out 🤮
it's on the main ssd
the harddrive has extra stuff
512 gig SATA SSD has the Windows 11 installation
the other one has other things like games and such
I am sure
lol
Try disabling fast boot /fast startup
where 🤔
One is in bios, one is in windows settings somewher
Can't remember which ones which but you can google them
cant show bios so I am forced into the windows settings anyway
You can
can what?
Access bios from windows
https://www.howtogeek.com/783790/how-to-enter-the-bios-on-windows-10/
But yeah it's probably just skipping the bios load screen
I mean pressing the button on boot yada yada
still nothing lmao
Read the article
You can access from windows
Still blank lol
Another thing to note:
The output very quickly is activat6when the PC just turned on but stops until the system is fully booted
that is quiet sorry
(yes i held shift on the restart button)
Exclusively shows output inside of the system
I do think this has to do with the fact that my bios settings cannot really be changed entirely, that applies to the video card
I cannot have the system boot using the card on pci-e instead of the integrated
this is genuinely annoying, been for maybe a year now
Have you done the CMD option the article mentioned yet? Can also try msconfig to change boot options to force into BIOS, I think.
ppl always guess my gender from my voice even if I am trans
Wa
Oh my apologies
So sorry
Um do you have a different screen VRS a tv like a monitor?
And you plugged in HDMI in the mother VRS the GPU?
As in no money:/
Ya same gose for me
What about the rest of what I mentioned?
Both hdmi ports are blank
But that's only when the card is K
Kn
If it is out, the onboard is fine
Also I'm sorry
Even if I don't understand the gender stuff
I don't understand it tbh.
Understandable
And this?
Idk what you meant there honestly
Short the motherboard
I mean the settings is cop or whatever
This part did it help?
No
What is your native language
I think that's throwing me off, the sentences look somewhat off
Also I read somewhere that tv and monitor is different
Tv picks up a feed from the PC and if it doesn't see it it doesn't show
VRS a monitor it picks up all signals
Better?
Well it should be ENG but overall learning more grammar for other languages doesn't help
Also chatting online is different because I don't really do it
The tv picks up a feed but only once the pc is into windows it will show something
Stoll comfused what any of that meant tbh
Still
I'm am asking what no
No it didn't help no what?
???
This no
I mean I don't understand what you said whatsoever
Ok better I understand
Well may be try that and see if it resolved your problem
Just asking why do ya need to go in bios any way?
I honestly don't even know amymore
That's kind funny
This was your start so I'm not sure what you where getting at
Initial this was the start
Initially
But the video was removed because of one word I said :/
So I recorded another one
Welp if ya remember ping me
I'm curious to know
But also when ya get a monitor see if ya can go in the BIOS
Is an Rx 6700xy for 500 a good deal rn?
Oh how unfortunately
Ya we need to keep a mind full on respect
New? Yeah not too bad
Agree
Ok
Tho what type of money would differ lol
For me it's good cost wise
It's slightly better than 3060 ti though, which is about that same price if you need the nvenc or something
Say question
Is using the PC like a gpu better if. Gpu is not as good
6750xt goes for about 550, if youre not streaming, i say go for that
What's a good streaming gpu?
The dedicated nvenc encoder is great from streaming and recording. It's faster and better quality than CPU processing, and a fair bit better than AMDs encoder.
3060 isnt better than a 6750, i wasnt comparing the 2 in that case
VCE looks better but iirc it takes up 2x or more space
3070 has been $600 lately and is a very nice jump over 3060 ti
Ha so it's quality? Humm
But what if a gpu cpu is in the mother board?
I'm asking silly questions if to far sorry
Just trying to understand
if you have an igpu, thats great, intel encoding is amazing, and works well for streaming
Indeed. That is a great alternative if you have a recent Intel CPU
recent meaning like 7th gen or newer
I see...
You'd probably want 9th gen minimum for the increased clock speed and cores if you're using something in the 6700/3070 class
Ah well that does not have a built in GPU
If any built in GPU were to exist on a system, it would be on the CPU
This one was my first one then realized it's more terabal then I thought of understanding
This is my target to save
But I'm not sure what's good but I think it's or will be good for my needs VRS the other one
GT 1030 doesn't even work as a streaming card, no nvenc
I will look into what your saying
Thanks for the input
If you're looking in the $600 range you want to look at 3070 or 3070 ti
Wait so this to is no good?
3060 should be $400 max
🤔
This one is in stock at this price all the time https://www.evga.com/products/product.aspx?pn=12G-P5-3655-KR
It was in stock a minute ago lol
Um study them to understand so chat but I'm come back here and there if ya get what I mean
You're saying you'll check them out and come back later? Sure
So what's 430$ Typ of money
What country are you in? I can check for deals more local to you
CAD
Canada
Tho I realized that the link was sent to use a different country:/
Also this nvenc is it best to have it in the card or no?
Or having it depends on what's the card used for?
If you're streaming nvenc is often the best option
Because of quality?
That and it doesn't slow down the computer
You can get the same fps when using nvenc, but not when using most other encoders
Rx 6000 does have pretty decent encoding tbf
But I'm kind asking is it like a feature
Like is it better to have 8 or 16 GB of RAM as a example
A ya that's better
So it's basically a added features
Yes it's an extra feature streamers use a lot
Yes my answer lol
What about this?
I think that's more related to biology than computers
There's 3 types
Like omg do they make it simple
I see welp I don't care to much as long as I can do some Rd modelling and Play a game here and there and my screen dosent freez because I think the Rd thing ran out of space
And who knows I may use it to stream 🙂
Thank u ... Looking
The 3060 is good for complex modeling because it has 12gb memory
Memory I found I use alot
In my ram have 32 and I use 18 and seem to going up
Same for gpu tho my gpu only has2g
So not sure how 2 or 12 g is going to help if regular ram I use alot lol
MSI GeForce RTX 3060 GAMING X 12G GDDR6 - 1837 MHz Boost, 15 Gbps Memory, PCIE4.0, HDMI, 3x DP TWIN FROZR 8, RGB - RTX 3060 GAMING X 12G
Say where in the sentence
Nvenc say
It's included on every 3060
And up...?
3050 and up
You went down oof so lost lol
It's a feature included on almost every modern nvidia GPU
Micro Star International
So just saying what's wrong with this one?
Price
It's just more expensive for no reason
Oh
3060 should be like 450-500 cad
I linked one that was $410
Oh nice
Clapclap
Mine was just a random guess
*510 sorry
Ah that makes more sense
Welp thanks for the info
Can get 6600xt for like 460 tho
https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/product/nyH7YJ/powercolor-radeon-rx-6600-xt-8-gb-fighter-video-card-6600xt-8gbd6-3dh
Wait I know why they say it also cost for more cooling so the cost of the fan is probably?
Strix tax
Mm looking
People think it looks cool and will pay the premium, it is a very good cooler but it's completely redicolous on a 3060 and not needed just a money grab
👍
I mean, 3060 already a money grab. Just a money grab² at this point.
Wo
Cute lil baby 80 ti.
Oh how nice
Half
?
Rommy, blue rose was partially referring to my 1080. Which is of course quite a ways from being low end even now.
closer to 2070s than 2070
faster
1080 non ti=2060, 1080ti = slightly slightly below 2070 super
1080 non ti =2070
1070 ti= 2060
then why are you questioning my own data?
do you own a 2070...?
or 2060...
and so do i
look above
i dont get your point
number higher means more performance
passmark shouldnt be turrsted naymore
its user submitted results
hell of a lot of variance
these are also user submitted...?
is that not 3dmark

Found out that the only reason my PC has issues with my GTX 680 (Only using this because I'm broke lmao) is because it is not fully compatible. I believe the motherboard is fine with 7xx series GPUs and onward, but yeah.
That's entirely possible since the GPU doesn't have UEFI compatible vbios.
You can get around this by enabling CSM/legacy mode.
^
