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keen nacelle
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Aight... one minute

cerulean rover
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I'll leave it to bacca

magic wing
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a kidney is only worth a 3090ti doesnt come with a psu

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:(

cerulean rover
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Then don't sell it :p

sturdy storm
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once again, max 1,250 but 1,000 is my safe budget here lmao

keen nacelle
sturdy storm
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christ that was quick

keen nacelle
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I just edited the one I already had

sturdy storm
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never seen that video card

keen nacelle
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It performs a bit better than a 3060

sturdy storm
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but 8 gb isn't bad lol

keen nacelle
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Don't measure performance in vram

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Otherwise 1080 ti would beat 3080 10gb

sturdy storm
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this'd be my first actually custom, not a damn modified prebuilt

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I mean I never really measure there lol

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I just say that because why not

keen nacelle
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Do you have any leftover parts from your currently build that might be useful

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Or are you the person with the 680 from earlier

sturdy storm
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yeah

keen nacelle
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Probably not then

cerulean rover
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@sturdy storm TPU chart for an idea of 6600xt perf

keen nacelle
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6600xt pog for the price

sturdy storm
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GeForce GTX 680, Intel Core i5-10400, 12 GB DDR4 Mem
This is my current PC huehpain

keen nacelle
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Wait

sturdy storm
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idk the damn motherboard

keen nacelle
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Holup

sturdy storm
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wait

keen nacelle
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You have a 10400

sturdy storm
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i5

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i5-10400 🤔

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mind if I steal that kekPain

keen nacelle
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Why do you want a new cpu

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You can prolly keep the mobo

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What's the power supply

sturdy storm
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this was a prebuilt office pc medKEK

keen nacelle
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Prolly not the psu then

sturdy storm
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well the stock was a 500w but I replace that with the 650w i think

cerulean rover
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10400 not bad

sturdy storm
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let me check

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600w*

keen nacelle
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Most likely a C tier

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Do you know the model?

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Or atleast brand?

sturdy storm
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of the psu?

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orrr

keen nacelle
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Yeah

sturdy storm
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I forgor thiscatisd

keen nacelle
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Did you buy it on amazon

sturdy storm
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someone else helped me, is not on my account

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lol

keen nacelle
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Anyways

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It sounds like you could get away with a ram and gpu upgrade

sturdy storm
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I could just take the cpu cooler and cpu out rq and that part is done kekw

keen nacelle
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No like

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I mean keep everything but ram and gpu

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Maybe also case

sturdy storm
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case is microatx

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don't think that would fit an atx motherboard

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hell, we had to remove the drive tray to fit the gpu

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the gpu is as wide as the case is

keen nacelle
cerulean rover
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Depending on mobo, could see use from b560 board, but would prob swap case, ram, GPU, depending on how good current PSU is, PSU.

keen nacelle
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Hard to say if the psu can be kept or not

sturdy storm
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wait I think i know the brand, could just look at the psu lmao

cerulean rover
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Ye, just putting together a smol list

keen nacelle
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What brand?

cerulean rover
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Will also need to know model

keen nacelle
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Also can you go into system info to look at the motherboard?

keen nacelle
cerulean rover
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If you could take off the side panel and see it, a picture would help

keen nacelle
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If its Thermaltake, aresgame, gamesmax, we know it has to go lol

livid idol
sturdy storm
cerulean rover
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Hey to be fair thermaltake makes some good psus :p

sturdy storm
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it was a smart series thermaltake 600w yada yada

livid idol
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Modding things is half the fun

keen nacelle
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I dont believe that's one of them

cerulean rover
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Smart 80+ is yikes if not one of the other ones

sturdy storm
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80+ something

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might just replace it too?

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idk

keen nacelle
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I'd reccomend replacing it

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Can you check system info for the motherboard?

livid idol
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Smart 80+ white is E tier iirc

sturdy storm
keen nacelle
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Do you have system info open?

sturdy storm
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yea

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lol

livid idol
keen nacelle
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Should be somewhere on the right side

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Board manufacturer or smthn

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Not at my pc rn

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Lying in my bed staring at a phone screen eating cheetos when I should be sleeping. I think this is an all time low

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anyways

sturdy storm
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nope don't see huehpain

keen nacelle
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Baseboard manufacturer

sturdy storm
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acer 🤮

keen nacelle
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Acer what

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Screen shot would be fine

livid idol
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cpu-z?

keen nacelle
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Sounds like it's oem, so prolly looking at a new mobo

sturdy storm
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idk whjy i drew a line there in particular

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baseboard same as system bs

keen nacelle
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Yeah looks like you want a new mobo

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Also just to make sure

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You're 100% certain it's a 10400?

sturdy storm
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BaseBoard and System Manu. Acer
BaseBoard Product and System Model. Asp...

sturdy storm
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one hundo there

keen nacelle
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Ok good

sturdy storm
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runs amazing honestly

keen nacelle
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How much storage is in the pc?

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And ssd/hdd?

sturdy storm
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512 SSD
500 HDD

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I think

keen nacelle
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Ssd you can carry over

sturdy storm
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aight

sturdy storm
keen nacelle
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Are you sure it's an ssd?

sturdy storm
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wait

keen nacelle
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Open task manager

sturdy storm
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512 SSD 500 SSD

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just checked disks

keen nacelle
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Oh nice

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Are they both sata?

sturdy storm
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I think so?

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Sata afaik, yea

keen nacelle
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@cerulean rover you think mp33 or just the two sata ssds

sturdy storm
keen nacelle
sturdy storm
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ssd came with pc
hdd came with an old laptop I moved from and to

keen nacelle
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Alright the hdd is kinda useless

sturdy storm
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lmao

keen nacelle
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Ssd you can carry over, you have two options from how I see it

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1tb ssd (faster storage, more reliable) for $75

sturdy storm
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been used for like 7+ years

keen nacelle
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Or 2tb hdd for $50 (slower, dies eventually)

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Ssds die too, just harder to kill

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Longer life span

sturdy storm
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I'll just get the 1tb

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honestly

keen nacelle
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Kk

sturdy storm
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god I definitely don't need a cd-rom on a pc
this one came standard with one lmao

keen nacelle
sturdy storm
keen nacelle
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Ye

sturdy storm
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might save and also swap to the amazon version since I normally use that to buy parts

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or will anyway

keen nacelle
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I once tried to build a pc purely off amazon

sturdy storm
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619+ on amazon for the 12g one

keen nacelle
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It is a terrible idea

sturdy storm
keen nacelle
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Please don't repeat my mistakes

sturdy storm
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i'll
avoid that

keen nacelle
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Anyways, you can also sell some parts from the pc that you're "scrapping"

sturdy storm
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yeah

keen nacelle
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Mobo case together for like 50-80, ram for $30-40, psu for $20 or so

sturdy storm
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eh yeah

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swapped the vid card to the 8 gb since I don't do much too intense

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should be fine

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can use the memory from my system, it is removable iirc

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has to be idk

keen nacelle
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What?

sturdy storm
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i am slow tonight

keen nacelle
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Don't use 12gb of ddr4

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Only 8gb will run dual channel

sturdy storm
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not the mem I am stupid

keen nacelle
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And 16gb kinda needed for gaming now

sturdy storm
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meant processor

keen nacelle
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Yeah cpu is removable

sturdy storm
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looking at 878 which is good

sturdy storm
keen nacelle
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I would've ended up overpaying way too much

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A friend saved me from that

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Though I then ended up buying a terrible pre built that I had to rebuild

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And then spent too much on that

lone pond
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If you want more performance out of any electronic, like tinkering with electronics, and you buy a prebuilt, you are doomed to rebuild at some point

sturdy storm
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I would always check to make sure the seller is a high rating or from amazon.com or something lol

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if I would anyway

keen nacelle
lone pond
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You still were looking for it

lone pond
keen nacelle
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Not really

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The mobo died

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The ram died (somehow)

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The psu was E tier

lone pond
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died ? lmao

sturdy storm
keen nacelle
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And not what it was supposed to be

sturdy storm
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and maybe swap parts to and from

keen nacelle
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The case was oem and only fit the mobo (that was dead)

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The heatsink was worse than a stock amd cooler

livid idol
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I started with a prebuilt too. I traded my PS3 for my buddy's Phenom PC. I'm finally at the point where I think all the parts from that are gone.

lone pond
sturdy storm
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yeah I know

livid idol
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*or well rated sellers

sturdy storm
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I usually do a similar thing if I buy from amazon, only choose amazon.com and whatnot

lone pond
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some other sellers are ok like corn, and high rated trusted sellers.

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Yes

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I am too slow at typing lmao

keen nacelle
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Korn? Rata rata pea rata oo

livid idol
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Also if it's the manufacturer selling direct through third party

lone pond
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That works too, but don’t get sucked into fishy deals from third parties

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End up with a lotta trouble and frustration

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tons of people end up here complaining about it

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them: I bought x item from newegg! it’s not shipped and i can’t refund!!
us: third party seller? kekw

sturdy storm
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i'll choose the cheaper option from all of them and make sure i can trust it yada yada

livid idol
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If it's the manufacturer they're usually well rated at least. Arctic sells direct for example, they've got like 20k ratings

sturdy storm
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see already good news because bacca was smart about it hueh

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might want to make an account real quick

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so I don't lose the damn list

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design

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the amazon parts I can take advantage of prime
the rest on newegg I can take advantage of the newegg sold thing

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and this

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hey 8 dollars for shipping does not add too much so whatever

keen nacelle
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The shipping prices are included in the total on pcpartpicker

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Only thing not are taxes

sturdy storm
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oh yeah ikik

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taxes to b a b

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gonna add the amazon items to a cart so I can quickly get those bought without finding them for a few minutes hueh

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please stop trying to get me to spend money i do not need a thing for a few years that i forget about and also lose money

livid idol
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Amazon lists work well too

sturdy storm
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always check the rating alr alr good good

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i am about to stab you

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now for the other three item cart

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not again gone

livid idol
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I love it when they used to FORCE ADD protection plans

sturdy storm
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i lost my negg cart

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i found it

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lets go

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i do not want the free gifts

livid idol
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So glad they don't do that anymore.
Except Dell

sturdy storm
livid idol
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Yep lol

sturdy storm
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thanks guys lol

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waiwaiwait

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might want thermal paste

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just in case the original one sucks

livid idol
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If you're getting a new cooler they usually come with some

sturdy storm
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which it will

livid idol
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And it's good enough for a midrange cpu

sturdy storm
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I think I can just take the same cooler my processor uses from my current build and move it to my new build

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10th gen core i5 :')

livid idol
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Yeah if you're trying to transplant the cooler you'll need paste

sturdy storm
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yeah

livid idol
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MX-4 is decent and cheap

sturdy storm
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gonna have to find another monitor if I don't wanna keep using a whole television meant for other entirely unrelated things

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lmao

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doesn't bother too much

livid idol
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MSI Optix G241/G242 is a good 1080p 24" 144Hz monitor for $180-190

sturdy storm
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and I use a goddamn roku tv, 4k60 huehpain

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I mean it is 4k, which I never use 4k because it hurts my 680

livid idol
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Oof that latency is going to be bad too

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Ghosting for days

sturdy storm
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I rlly need a monitor anyway

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because i hurt my neck constantly looking at the bottom at this lol

frigid anvil
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I've got a Fire stick Max.

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It's great

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But my 60Hz TV sucks.

solemn panther
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Get good, Bryce

queen moss
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Do u guys know how the cooling fans work on the rtx 3080 FE? Does one fan sick air in and one blow out, or do they both suck in?

livid idol
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Both fans blow the same direction, the right side fan blows through the heatsink and up

velvet grail
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What's the main difference between dvi-d dual link and dvi-d single link?

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Bitrate? Max resolution? Colors?...

vital oriole
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It's just extra bandwidth for higher res

velvet grail
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Ok, i thought it also had less colours but apparently they're the same

ivory herald
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Single link is a bit old & obsolete a while ago. Even my gtx 660 has a dual link dvi port I think. Really just handy to do "normal" use w/ a 1080p or maybe 1440p screen.

thin jungle
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what should i look for if im getting a 3070

keen nacelle
thin jungle
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like i was looking for them and found a lot of different types

keen nacelle
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Look for anything that isn't ventus 2x, and aside from that the cheaper the better

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For the most part

livid idol
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Price to go for on the 3070 is currently $650 or less at retail, you can get a 3070 ti for $700 easy

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Assuming US

keen nacelle
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3060 ti also consistently avaialble for around the 600 price point

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fairly often lower

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and is like 10% worse than 3070, so pretty close in real world perf

ivory herald
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10% is 10%, but yea 60 ti is often enough $550ish while 3070 is $650ish & 70ti is often $700 (asus tuf)

livid idol
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The Gigabyte Eagle OC model 3070 ti is also $700

dense wraith
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Anyone have that post where they said the 4000 series cards would require 1000w+ psu's and iirc they mentioned needing a 1500w psu for the 4090

livid idol
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It's all just rumors right now

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Current theory is ~500W 4090 that overclocks at up to 600W

dense wraith
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Hmm could possibly be, but i wouldn't doubt it if it was actually true lol

brisk flame
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you can bet on max 600w for any card you would reasonably purchase

dense wraith
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Well that's just gpu alone correct?

brisk flame
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yes

livid idol
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Correct

brisk flame
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but the rest of the system sips power for the most part

livid idol
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So if you pair it with a 12900k that's another 300W to account for

brisk flame
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and CPUs dont use too much

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comparatively

livid idol
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Which is where the 1000W psu thing comes in

dense wraith
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Well my 5800x uses like 100w alone

livid idol
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That's nothing compared to the gpu

dense wraith
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adding in all the lights and stuff add another 100 😛

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Yeah of course but it's not impossible

livid idol
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Probably not 100W for fans, LEDs, and drives, but if you have a lot maybe 50-75W

dense wraith
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I run a 011 dynamic razer edition, razer taichi b550 mobo gskill royals sl120 lian li fans and a kraken z73 literally everything has rbg on it lol i mean thats no 300w right but it's still a lil taxing

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I run a 2070 super on top of that and i run a 1000w psu so i should be good assuming the newer gpus dont require some crazy wattage

livid idol
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If you go to the 4070 (which is supposed to be about equal to the 3080 ti/3090) it might be 350-400W so 1000W psu is more than fine

dense wraith
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Hoping so lol thanks Fal 😄

idle idol
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GTX 1080 for 250$ a good price?

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My RX 580 died today.

livid idol
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Not too bad yeah

fading briar
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Does anyone wanna trade a kidney for a 3090 to?

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ti*

livid idol
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Make it 2 3090 tis and you got a deal

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It doesn't matter that I'm an alcoholic right? /jk

keen nacelle
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I just sold the 1650s I got on b stock yo someone, the serial number sticker is partially on the gold pcie things that go into the pcie slot

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Is that normal?

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^

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Well

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Maybe delete it @hasty sphinx

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People can steal warranty if they want to be word I can't say

hasty sphinx
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oh right

keen nacelle
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With serial #

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One sec

hasty sphinx
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good idea 😛

keen nacelle
brisk flame
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i would try to peel it off and stick it up higher

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but it might be a pain, i dont think those stickers come off very nicely

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may need some sort of solvent to pull it up

heady turtle
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Probably not easy

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I dont see a problem with it being that low tho

hasty sphinx
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It's working right now

brisk flame
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i think your best bet would be to just stick the card in and see what happens

hasty sphinx
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I just got everything put back together

brisk flame
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well in that case its whatever

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but i would check the bandwidth

hasty sphinx
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so quick querstion though.. Do I download the drivers from the evga site or from nvidia?

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oh how do I check the bandwidth

brisk flame
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gpuz would show it

heady turtle
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Nvidia

cerulean rover
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Would also just run a bench to make sure perf is fine even if bandwidth says it's fine

brisk flame
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it should be x16, but it could potentially only be x8 should the pins farther back be covered too much

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i thought the contact point was farther up the pins

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so only having the lower third on some of those pins exposed might be an issue

hasty sphinx
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am I looking at bus interface?

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let me update driver real quick

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it's reading as a microsoft display adapter lol

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driver date of jun 21 20065 lol

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2006*

brisk flame
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lmao yeah fix that first

keen nacelle
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It'll be fine then

keen nacelle
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Looks like it's fine

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1 yr warranty if anything is wrong anyways

hasty sphinx
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ok cool

brisk flame
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is that not running at x4?

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it is a 1650s after all, probably wont hurt too much

hasty sphinx
keen nacelle
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Oh wait

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I see what he means

brisk flame
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the card is x16 3.0 running @ x4 3.0

hasty sphinx
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oh ok, and that's probably because the sticker?

keen nacelle
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Most likely the sticker though

hasty sphinx
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mag tomahawk z690

keen nacelle
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Def not the mobo then

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It shouldn't hurt perf that badly, maybe like 5%

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Since it isn't a 6500xt

hasty sphinx
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ok. It'll only take like a minute to pull it out and take teh sticker off so I'll try that once I'm done eating

keen nacelle
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I dont think it'll come off in one piece

hasty sphinx
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I'm not sure what x16 1.1 means though

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huh, it's fluctuating between 1.1 2.0 and 3.0

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oh ok clicking the ? next to it explains it.

vital oriole
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It swaps version cause of different power modes

hasty sphinx
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yeah

ivory herald
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Should've ran timespy before & after. I wouldn't have even tried the card w/ the sticker on contacts. Pepe_KEK

ivory herald
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Learning is good. Pepe_cheers

dreamy dragonBOT
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Rhine Edit#3324 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

keen nacelle
hasty sphinx
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it wasn't even that sticky tbh

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the dollar store labels I use for my vape juice are tonns stickier than this sticker

keen nacelle
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I thought it'd come off in pieces with like residue left over

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How those types of stickers normally do on pretty much everything like them

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I thought someone at evga messed up with that sticker placement or smthn lol

ivory herald
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Tbh usually SN sticker is literally just slapped on the back somewhere. Perhaps Ray Charles did that card for ya.

hasty sphinx
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So far this has been stable for almost an hour now

keen nacelle
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for it to be stable it has to be udner stress

velvet grail
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What model of 1650s?

keen nacelle
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run a benchmark, if it completes then its stable

hasty sphinx
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I did run a benchmark

keen nacelle
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but 1500 isnt stable on nearly all gpus

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what bench?

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id use timespy demo on steam

hasty sphinx
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ok I'll grab it and check it out

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says I have to own 3dmark to get the benchmark adddon

keen nacelle
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one sec

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theres a button for it

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ill take a ss after tjhis game

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its under 3dmark demo

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when you click on 3dmark demo, its on the right side

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@hasty sphinx

hasty sphinx
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alright thankjs

keen nacelle
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np

hasty sphinx
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that's a big file lol

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must be more than just a benchmark

keen nacelle
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theres a few other things, but they all have to do with the benchmark

hasty sphinx
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oh ok

wicked hound
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Isnt it also on 3dguru or smth?

keen nacelle
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theres a download link online, if thats what you mean

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just easier to use steam. The site its one has like five different download buttons, most of which give malware, spyware and viruses

hasty sphinx
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the one that is pinned in the overclocking channel?

wicked hound
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Wat? 3Dguru has five servers for 3dMark, but that's it lol. Non of them are dangerous

keen nacelle
hasty sphinx
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the one pinned in the overclock channel has a few dl links as well, but one of them wasn't working for me

wicked hound
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Overclocking pinned is Techspot, never heard of them so I wont comment on it. I've used 3DGuru for bunch of random things before and I never had issues, tho I always have had an ad blocker of some sort so maybe they had bad ads at some point.

keen nacelle
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ah yeah diff thing

hasty sphinx
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20 min left to dl I guess

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the oiverclocking videos I've been watching one guy says that most people report being able to run 1500 extra mhz on their 1650s

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but we'll see what happens with this timespy thing

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I assume it's a better benchmark than heaven?

keen nacelle
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timespy is actually accurate and updated, unlike heaven

hasty sphinx
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ok

ivory herald
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Also afaik 16 is like 20 series, it doesn't outright crash but error correcting on the memory just impacts performance. That's why running TimeSpy various times while increasing clocks is a good idea. Heaven is outdated. Superposition is better, but TimeSpy is preferred by most.

keen nacelle
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ye... perf will decrease, but its unlikely to crash

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well, tbf

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my 3060 ti crashes when i put mem over 1100

hasty sphinx
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I did crash when I had the core clock at 150

keen nacelle
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but it increases perf at 1100 compared to anything lower

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core is diff from mem

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it has auto correcting mem oc

hasty sphinx
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so I dropped to 125 and it hasn't crashed yet

keen nacelle
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not core

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core also increases in incriments of 15

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so youre actually running it at 120 rn

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150 was actually 155, 140 could be stable

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but wont know till you try

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this was my hard limit for ocing

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wait

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no it wasnt

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i got +210 on core

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wrong afterburner preset

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there we go

hasty sphinx
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@keen nacelle

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maybe I should try to beat the worlds best since it's like 30 points away

heady turtle
hasty sphinx
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in the 2nd pic

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so getting through the benchmark twice it's safe to assume that my oc is stable?

heady turtle
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Yes

hasty sphinx
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I mean could still crash in some games yeah?

heady turtle
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It can

hasty sphinx
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the guy in the video I watched said that is where profiles come into play

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I can drop frequencys a bit for the games that do crash

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so just use that profile for those games

heady turtle
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Eh just do 1 that's stable in all

hasty sphinx
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yeah makes sense

cinder pumice
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I am looking at the Radeon 6600 graphics card is the msi 6600 any different than the XFX 6600

wicked hound
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Idk if TS is really the best for finding stability. I know it isnt for GPUs with large VRAM/DXR support as there are quite a few better options.

cinder pumice
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@keen nacelle I figured that was the case thank you

keen nacelle
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cheapest 6600 in stock rn

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though it is ventus

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and 6600 has a bit better perf

heady turtle
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oop nvm wrong gpu

livid idol
keen nacelle
lone pond
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😐

livid idol
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You can pretend all you want but that's what half the people using nvidia reflex will use it for

lone pond
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is a 2060 super gaming X (used no box)+600 worth it for a 3080 FE with box and everything and it has been mined on for 2 weeks

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or the same 2060 +350 for a 3070 ti FE that has been mined on

lone pond
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isnt it bad to get a used GPU

keen nacelle
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not really

lone pond
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cuz like if it fails im screwed

keen nacelle
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theres a warantee

little sleet
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depends on what the person before hand was doing to the gpu

little sleet
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otherwise its really not that bad to get a used card

keen nacelle
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my card ive mined on for 1 year is perfectly fine

little sleet
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for mining, assuming they know what theyre doing; a used mining gpu is better than a used gaming gpu

lone pond
keen nacelle
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how so

lone pond
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like asus has screwed me over, i know this is nvidia but still

little sleet
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?

lone pond
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my monitor broke and retail is like 230 and then they sent me a bill for 340

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and i got it shipped back to me

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i didnt pay the 340 obviously

little sleet
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well that doesnt really give us much info on what actually happened

lone pond
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the monitor out of no where started having lines

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i sent it in for RMA and then they sent me a bill for 340

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lol

little sleet
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also for used stuff depends on where you buy it from because you can have buyers protection like ebay or just straight up through paypal

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if its in person, then youd have to just try and trust the person

lone pond
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its not ebay, its through the fixit discord server

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yea im meeting with a person

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like an experienced miner

little sleet
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if you get proof of the card working and stuff then you should be fine

lone pond
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the only thing stopping me is my mom lmao since im a kid

rustic pulsar
# lone pond mining

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vital oriole
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an ex-miner gpu if well taken care of will only at worst have dried paste or broken fan

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fan is pretty cheap and easy to replace tho

ivory herald
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Although part of the worry could be much lower lifespawn since a mining card is usually on 24/7 and a gaming card isn't, even if a gpu usually lasts long enough to become "obsolete" (in other words actual lifespan isn't a huge concern)

livid idol
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It's using less power during mining and doesn't get as hot so not as much stress as gaming at full/OC power

vital oriole
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Nah, lifespan being lower is a fud

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Gaming is actually more taxing on gpu

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Cause of heat cycle

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The only thing that wears down on a mining card if it's not abused is the fan

ivory herald
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would be good if miners deshrouded then used 120/140mm fans for a while. thinkgif

vital oriole
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They just put external active cooling on em most of the times

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Like an ac or a fan

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I'm a little sad how people thinks mining damages gpus

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Probably seen bad examples

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People loves to make mining look much worse than it is

ivory herald
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Eh it's not exactly the best thing, running many gpus 24/7 using power just to make some money back. I wouldn't ban it though. Sure wouldn't say no to a decently priced ex-miner card either.

vital oriole
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It doesn't hurt if the source comes from green power

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Besides I was just talking about gpu wear

tardy radish
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i’m rocking a 1060 3gb what is a good upgrade?

ivory herald
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3060 (ti) sure would be, or even as "low" as a 2070(S). Really it's all about budget/patience, but quite a few cards are an upgrade for ya.

livid idol
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Speaking from experience even the 2070 will get you about double fps in some games

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About equal to the 3060 for newer model

ember iris
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Im having issues

keen nacelle
ember iris
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do you know what this is caused by? not the startup screen, just the obvious pink lines

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it seems like a gpu issue to me but when I restarted my pc it just went away

keen nacelle
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that looks like gpu artifcating, could also be caused by monitor or a bad cable

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or a cable not fully plugged in

keen nacelle
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artifacting* sorry typoed

ember iris
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oh

keen nacelle
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basically when the gpu is on its way out

ember iris
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like getting old?

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man that's not fair

keen nacelle
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sometimes it can be fixed with an underclock or power limit

ember iris
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well

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so basically

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these lines didn't happen before

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what did happen and still does

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is uh

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my computer just crashes out of nowhere

keen nacelle
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what gpu is it?

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and when did you get it?

ember iris
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it's not mine I got it from a trust worthy dealer who sold it second hand and it was originally used for like 2 or 3 years

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and it looked very good in condition

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and it was totally fine when I got it

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which was just a year ago

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I got my pc a year ago roughly

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slightly less than a whole year but yeah 10-11 months

keen nacelle
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that aint even close to a new gpu

ember iris
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and now my display just went blank

ember iris
keen nacelle
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was released in 2012

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its most likely been used since 2014 at the latest

ember iris
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well I guess that's the only justification for this

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it makes sense

keen nacelle
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could try underclocking it if you can get it to boot

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make sure cable is fully plugged in

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how much did you pay for it?

ember iris
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around @keen nacelle 130$

keen nacelle
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couldve gotten a 1050 for around the same price :p

ember iris
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I was going for that at first

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but the guy told me this is better

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and we'll

keen nacelle
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they seem to be similar perf

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but 1050 is a good bit newer

ember iris
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both cards were generally second hand

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I didn't know much anyways this is my first pc

keen nacelle
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i didnt know much either when i bought my pc

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made a lot of mistakes

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so i get that

ember iris
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well idk what I'm gonna do now

keen nacelle
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could try the gpu in someone elses pc to make sure thats the issue

ember iris
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I took it back to the guy

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and he had it repaired somehow

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and took like 20$ for fixing it too

keen nacelle
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some people know how tof ix gpus

ember iris
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but it was fine after that

keen nacelle
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but i wouldnt put any more money into that card

ember iris
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it just started happening again though

ember iris
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I literally got it repaired like in December last year

tired pilot
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i found an rtx 3060 3 fans from msi for near 400$ us

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a good deal

heady turtle
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Is decent

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Evga has been selling them for like 370ish tho

idle idol
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Got this for 379$

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From in-store bestbuy

wooden fern
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nice

vital oriole
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379

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breh

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wegg has it cheaper, yeup

idle idol
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eh,

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I kinda needed it,

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since my RX 580 died

lone pond
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good price for 1070?

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sub $200 maybe?

keen nacelle
lone pond
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oh what

keen nacelle
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I could be wrong on that

lone pond
keen nacelle
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I don't feel like pulling up ebay to check

lone pond
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1 trade tho

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could be sus

keen nacelle
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Eh

lone pond
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it’s still a 1070…

keen nacelle
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PayPal g&s protections

lone pond
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ah yes

keen nacelle
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I wish I could still use hws

livid idol
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Do the usual due diligence and check scam lists

keen nacelle
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Annoying that I can't

lone pond
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Why can’t u use it

keen nacelle
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Reddit banned all of my accounts and won't tell me why

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And won't accept any appeals

lone pond
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damn use an rss feed

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To the subreddit

keen nacelle
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No ban evading, no discrimination, nothing of the sorts

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I could prolly use a vpn

lone pond
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Nah like use RSS feeds

keen nacelle
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But whenever I make a new account it gets auto banned

lone pond
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and an external website that reads rss feeds

keen nacelle
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What is that?

lone pond
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google it

keen nacelle
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Rss?

lone pond
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it’s like news feeds

keen nacelle
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Would be easier/better to just use a VPN and make a new account

lone pond
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I guess

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if it works

keen nacelle
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If I need to sell anything I can also use my brothers phone and account

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Just can't check throughout the day for decently priced things I might be interested in

static egret
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whats best gpu?

livid idol
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It needs to be updated but that's still fairly accurate

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Best for the price for gaming currently would be the 6900XT at ~$1000 USD

heady turtle
random walrus
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Obviously higher is better but is there any sort of metric?

livid idol
random walrus
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Got it

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And then what's the bold for?

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Oh it's just the coloring of the chart nvm

thorn turret
keen nacelle
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980 ti actually has similar perf to a 3050 too

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So does 1070 and 1660 super

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3060 is similar to a 2070 and 1080

thorn turret
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But 3060 only has the ray tracing right

keen nacelle
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2070 has rtx too

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Only 20 and 30 series have rtx

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But rtx is kinda a waste anyways

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It tanks fps usually for not much you can notice

livid idol
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Yeah it's not well implemented in most games

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It's a great concept but the trick is to use it meaningfully

thorn turret
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You basically pay less for a better perfomance

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Wait no thats good

livid idol
keen nacelle
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It allows performance of similar tiers to be cheaper

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Shortage prices aside, 3060 ti gives 2080 super performance at $400

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And 3060 gives 2070 performance at (supposedly) $330

thorn turret
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Well I havent seen the chart yet but now im not sure if I should stick with a 3060 or get a 2080 ti since it is cheaper

keen nacelle
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Where tf are you seeing a 2080 ti for less than a 3060

thorn turret
keen nacelle
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Are you in the us?

thorn turret
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Yes

keen nacelle
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Next jump would be an $800 3070 ti, which imo 3060 ti at 570 is much more worth it

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Then a 1k 3080 12gb, which is pog

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Though 6900xt is also 1k rn

thorn turret
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Isnt that good

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Since 6900xt is on par with 3090

keen nacelle
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6900xt asrock oc formula actually consistently beats 3090 when both are oced

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I'm not sure which comes out on top without ocing

livid idol
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And the 6900XT slightly beats the 3090 at 1080p, matches at 1440p, and slightly loses at 4k

heady turtle
# thorn turret I dont like that concept

That would mean that your 250$ cared from this gen would beat out the 1500$ card from last gen that would be crazy for one and basically impossible if amd/nv weren't artificially limiting how good their products where each gen

normal hawk
#

This RTX 3090 Ti has five fans in total A Japanese prebuilt-PC maker announced the availability of a new GPU option: a water-cooled GeForce RTX 3090 Ti. The RTX 3090 Ti G-Master Hydro series is the new option for the Sycom prebuilt systems. The company offers a wide range of liquid-cooled GPUs, which usually feature […]

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Lol

heady turtle
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lol

normal hawk
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You gonna buy it?

livid idol
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If that's an asetek like it says in the title then you can't bottom mount the rad. That's an immediate no from me.

heady turtle
livid idol
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Right? 100% the only problem I see

heady turtle
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nothing else

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like the fans that look like they were pulled out of 2001 lmao

livid idol
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Don't be hating on Noctua fans, that's their signature. You take one look and see exactly what brand it is even without a logo.

heady turtle
livid idol
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Ohhh gotcha

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Yeah they don't even have any of the modern touches on those like vibration damping or the center fan being reversed

ivory herald
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Mainly clear fans & copper windings showing, lol. I'd deshroud that instantly & throw on a couple more Noctuas to match the others (perhaps 140mm fans)

livid idol
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140s would be too big for most cases unless you do vertical mount

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And having the fans bigger than the heatsink means bad pressure

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That's why we have such weird fan sizes for GPUs like 88mm

velvet grail
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What should the "normal" price be for a basic GTX1080 waterblock?

keen nacelle
heady turtle
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Custom loops spensive

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Although if you need, because heatsink not available anymore there's the nzxt kraken adapter

ivory herald
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1080 block would be $90ish probably at least, of course not really worth it

wicked hound
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Used blocks are cool. Should be like $50 - $70

hard tinsel
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hey guys, I'm moving to a 2-pc streaming setup. I already have a gaming/power pc and currently building my stream pc and don't know which GPU I should need to stream with. I already got a Elgato 4k60 mk.2 available, but I don't know what is the best budget GPU I can get.

livid idol
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You're better off using the CPU for encoding. It's slightly less ideal but far cheaper.

hard tinsel
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yeah, tried it. not the best quality so far for a 3600

livid idol
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Well if you're stuck with a 3600 there's your problem 🙃
Something modern and cheap like a 3050 would be fine. It'll have the nvenc encoder.

hard tinsel
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got it thnx

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had a budget of 550aud

livid idol
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Might be able to do a 3060 in that budget if you wanted but shouldn't make a whole lot of difference.

hard tinsel
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should try that. gonna yoink my friend's 3060 for a week to try it out

ivory herald
magic wing
ivory herald
magic wing
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this is what happens when 90gb windows install

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this is fine

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oh ffs

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Windows had made big page file on c drive

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so much better

magic wing
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honestly very glad i daily linux

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windows is just to game

livid idol
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Don't forget powercfg /h off and delete hiberfile.sys from the root

magic wing
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oh true

livid idol
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That'll reclaim a couple gb too, how much depends on your ram size

magic wing
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ive got 32 gigs

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which is why a page file of that size on c drive confused me

livid idol
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Yeah I leave mine at 800MB and call it good, that's the minimum for blue screen dumps

magic wing
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i just let windows go nuts with the page file on my downloads only hard drive

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disabling hibernate freed up like 12 gigs

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bruh what is microsoft smoking

livid idol
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lol right

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"We need to reserve space equal to the system ram times 2!"

magic wing
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37 gigs of swap and hibernate on a 85gig install?!

livid idol
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Like bruh it's not 1995 any more

magic wing
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its not shrunk partition on pre existing install either

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its a brand new install

solemn panther
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The GPU crisis is over??

vital oriole
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not yet

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it's getting better but it's not over tbh

solemn panther
lone pond
magic wing
lone pond
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O

livid idol
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Follow up question: why does your Linux need 300gb? Mine uses like 25 with the /home on a separate drive.

ivory herald
heady turtle
main sandal
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thats my prediction

heady turtle
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It's no longer a crisis but it's not back to normal yet

main sandal
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ye, and I think it'll stay this way until next drop and then the NEW crisis will start ;-;

livid idol
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We're at the point now where some people have decided to wait for the next gen. It'll sell out fast but not as bad as June last year lol.

keen nacelle
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do you think my next upgrade should be cpu, mobo and possibly ram or 4060 ti/4070?

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im thinking cpu

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but idk

livid idol
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It depends on what you play. I play stuff that's CPU heavy so I'd go CPU.

keen nacelle
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mix of both

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a lot of val but im not really worried about fps for that lol

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im stuck in the mindset of "if i have the chance to upgrade why not" since the money from mining isnt "real" money to me

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maybe i should grab an m27q first

livid idol
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Then I'd hold out for next gen, whether that's the CPU or the GPU. Both should be a good jump coming up.

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Yeah 3060 ti should do 1440p high refresh well enough with respectable settings

hasty sphinx
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If I plug my second monitor into my iGPU, will that monitor run games off that instead of my dGPU?

fading glacier
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nvidia milk the big bois first

keen nacelle
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maybe 3 and a half

fading glacier
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true, then maybe at the end of the year maybe

keen nacelle
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ill be saving up anyways

fading glacier
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i will skip this gen 😛 im happy with my 3060ti, im pretty sure it will hold its own for some years, at least at the gaming level

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pretty happy at 2k

lost nebula
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what should i get RX 570,Ryzen 5 5600X or rtx 3050 XC,i3-6100?

keen nacelle
lost nebula
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400$ i already have i3-6100.rx570,,i live in Saudi Arabia

keen nacelle
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of you alreday have those, no point in buying that whole new pc unless you can sell yours for $300 or so less

lost nebula
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i know but i want to upgrade should i upgrade the gpu or the cpu

keen nacelle
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cpu

lost nebula
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oh that was fast

tired pilot
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what gpu should i get for 400 ?

heady turtle
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english only server oilucian

ember eagle
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Hey I was wondering how people “mod” the Evga ftw3 cards into being white

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Is it like vinyl or is it smth todo with painting the shroud and does it void the warranty

heady turtle
green harness
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although maybe it's a different method people have used? But you can avoid spray painting to not void warranty iirc

livid idol
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Plasti-dip for the shroud is really common yeah, it's easy enough to take off and mostly flat so it's a good candidate for that.

odd siren
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Yeah white plasti dip I feel like I remember people saying it works on that

keen nacelle
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Istfg some people are so stupid

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My friends doing +1650 on his mem on his 1650

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And won't listen to anything

livid idol
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Willful ignorance, don't waste time on those kinds of people

keen nacelle
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Used to do +1350 on their 1050 ti... that died

livid idol
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I wonder why

keen nacelle
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Mmm

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Oh thank god

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I got him to stick to +750

rustic pulsar
livid idol
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Define stable

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Because stability can be measured in several ways and has different meanings

lone pond
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stable for me = doesn’t crash and does not artifact during the specified tasks

rustic pulsar
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Like for me it’s mining and does not crash

livid idol
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Mining stability can be tricky. If it's too high it might just lose hash rate instead of crashing. Also I've seen a mining overclock crash file explorer but still be fine mining.

rustic pulsar
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I have my 3070 ti mem set to +1200, raising it is not stable and lowering it decreases hash rate

livid idol
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That's about right for GDDR6X

lone pond
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Windows is also finicky in general

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💩

livid idol
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Ew are you mining on Windows

rustic pulsar
#

on the topic of mining, its normal for 3070ti mining just ETH to be more profitable then mining ETH + ERGO

livid idol
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It'll vary by the market but yes that'll often be the case

keen nacelle
rustic pulsar
solemn panther
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Good good good

ivory herald
#

Eh, full $200 more than the non ti often is lately. Try harder Newegg

solemn panther
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It's msrp tho

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Not going any lower I think

ivory herald
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Things are improving no doubt

brave violet
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Wow, finally getting to noemal

vital oriole
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woo

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hitting msrp

ivory herald
#

2 years later woooo leoKEK

quartz gull
#

Also how's the jump to 16 threads from 4?

ivory herald
# quartz gull Where's your GPU upgrade smh

Pascal still good at 1080p. At this point probably will do 40 series or wait for 3070(ti)/80 to drop another $50ish. As for cpu, 8 to 16 threads since I've had the 3770 instead of 3550. Tbh been busy & obviously got a final 3rd m.2 ssd in the mail right now. Pepe_KEK

heady turtle
gray bloom
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3050 or 2060 6gb? price rn simalar

vital oriole
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get 2060

heady turtle
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2060

gray bloom
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okay buying for a friend ty

hasty sphinx
#

So I had 2 monitors hooked up to 1650 super. I noticed that the memory was being used at 100% with a 100% uptime so I did troubleshooting and found it was my second monitor. I plugged it into my iGPU and the issue went away, but there was no display on the monitor for at least 10 minutes. So I started looking into how to use a dGPU and iGPU at the same time and as I was watching a video, bam, my monitor kicked on. A couple questions. QUESTION 1: Did my motherboard decide that it was going to be smart and just enable the feature for me so I didn't have to go into the bios? QUESTION 2: Also, what might have been causing the 2nd monitor to use 100% of my GPU memory like that?

heady turtle
#

Im confused what

runic crypt
#

which mining software is recommended if i consider getting into it?

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if my older 670 can do anything good

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is a seperate mining os recommended?

hasty sphinx
# heady turtle Im confused what

I had a second monitor hooked up to my dGPU. My dGPU memory was reading at max constantly. It was not fluctuating at all. I unhooked my 2nd monitor and it went back to idle instantly. My second question is regarding this.

keen nacelle
runic crypt
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okay nvm

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is it any better than the 1030?

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or are they both bad

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or outclassed

hasty sphinx
#

I then hooked up that 2nd monitor to my iGPU, but no display was present. I then remembered that I had to enable some sort of bios setting to allow the iGPU to be "on" along side a dGPU. When I was looking up a video to see what settings I needed to enable/disable, my monitor all of sudden started showing display. My 1st question is regarding this.

runic crypt
#

tbh i need my current gpu for adobe so no mining

heady turtle
runic crypt
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yeah thats not a good idea

heady turtle
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Same with the 1030 except less heat lol

runic crypt
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okay

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theyre not bad for games or even artstuffs but higher sysreqs are getting up there

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and at least the shortage died down a bit

heady turtle
heady turtle
heady turtle
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Hmm

hasty sphinx
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and it won't go down

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it sits at that constant

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like 100% of the time

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until I unhook it

heady turtle
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Hmmm

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Sounds like a driver setting maybe

hasty sphinx
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No drivers for the monitor

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plus I still can't get a driver for my G27Q

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it still reads as generic pnp

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it's running fine on my iGPU though at 300mhz.

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just a little wierd to me is all

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it was causing my gpu to sit at a constant 46c

heady turtle
hasty sphinx
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and windows update.

heady turtle
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Fair enough

hasty sphinx
#

I'll look into the nvidia driver though. I didn't think about that

heady turtle
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Nv driver was stopping me throttle cuz i had power management on performance instead of normal iirc idk why but just make sure it's not changing that for some reason

hasty sphinx
#

Do I want the game ready driver from the nvidia website? I had originally downloaded the driver from evga

heady turtle
#

Smh yeah get from Nvidia

hasty sphinx
heady turtle
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Lol it's fine

hasty sphinx
#

I bought myself a phone cooler that actually works reallly good so this 700mb download is gonna be quick

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took 1:37 on mobile hotspot

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not bad I'd say

heady turtle
#

Pretty fast you must get good reception

hasty sphinx
#

I max out my dual band 4g+lte at 100mbps

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with around 20-30 upload

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and 10-15 ping

#

This geforce experience thing... I just launch the game from it and it auto optimizes?

cerulean rover
#

Don't use the auto optimize thing

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Doesn't actually do anything worthwhile

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Just messes with the settings, and the target is like 1080p60, not really great

hasty sphinx
#

alright

velvet grail
#

Oh no... The display port... Is dead
Haha not funny

coarse lark
#

Is there anyway scenario where the 1060 6gb model with GDDR5X is better than my 1070?

cobalt lichen
#

Only 2 fans on my gpu are spinning ??

livid idol
livid idol
cobalt lichen
livid idol
#

Try manually putting the fan at 75% in Afterburner

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If that doesn't work the fan is jammed or dead

cobalt lichen
#

The gpu is not even a year old?

livid idol
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Duds happen

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That's what a warranty is for

wicked hound
cobalt lichen
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55c

wicked hound
#

Yeah that isnt really crazy, seems within a reasonable range that not all fans would be on.

wicked hound
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I'd try what Falc recommended, use a fan controller (like Afterburner) to set fan speed. Also, "3dmark" is pretty vague as that is a program that hosts many types of tests, ranging from really basic to fairly intensive.

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What test did you run?

cobalt lichen
wicked hound
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There is more then one free test last I remember

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Was it Timespy?

cobalt lichen
wicked hound
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You only hit 55c in that? Seems pretty low.

cobalt lichen
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Hold on I'll run it again

cobalt lichen
wicked hound
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Should tell you temps after running, unless free version doesnt do that

cobalt lichen
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Ok I'll let you know when it's done

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Currently at 75c

wicked hound
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Yeah that looks more normal then the 55c stated earlier. As I said earlier, RMA it if the fan didnt turn on turning that test.

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Ok will do. Ugh I'm going to be without a pc for weeks

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@wicked hound Thank you for your help

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NP. Hopefully RMA time isnt too long.

cobalt lichen
solid pier
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is the 1060 6g or 570 better

coarse lark
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Esports or shooters?

solid pier
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1080 shooters/triple A games

vital oriole
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1060 is better

coarse lark
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The userbenchmark review recommended $30 to 580 or $50 upgrade to 590. But that’s the original reviews. Is it just depends on price. The 1060 did have higher specs

vital oriole
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also don't use userbench for guides tbh

coarse lark
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Especially the GDDR5X version of the 1060

vital oriole
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they have very biased results

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also gddr5x 1060 doesn't exist, it only has gddr5

coarse lark
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It wasn’t launched?

vital oriole
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yeah, it's not a thing

coarse lark
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in that gen, only 1080 and above has gddr5x

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oh wait

coarse lark
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That’s what I thought to until I saw this for sale. And then read some reviews on it

vital oriole
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that's some obscure model

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it's exceedingly rare tho

coarse lark
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Oh got ya

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Mercari: Your Marketplace

This was purchased for my gfs pc. She plays nothing but hearthstone and the card is practically still brand new. I will bubble wrap and ship this out as soon as I can. I do not believe I have the original box though. Feel free to message me with questions or an offer.

Thanks for your time.

solid pier
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thanks for the help

coarse lark
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What’s your budget John?

solid pier
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well my friends dad upgraded and is getting rid of two gpus he has that are 1060s and im trading a 570+100$ for em

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idk what imma do with 2 since SLI aint on 1060s

vital oriole
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that's not that good of a deal

coarse lark
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Hmm probably have to sell the other one. Or use it for a different build if you have one

vital oriole
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unless you sell the other one

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100 for one is easy deal

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even 120 for it is fine honestly

solid pier
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yeah, i think imma just do that and just get the money back and save for like a 3060 or sum

coarse lark
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What’s your cpu?

solid pier
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3600xt

coarse lark
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Nice. I’ve never had a newer amd cpu so I cannot offer any insights on performance without the internet. Lol

vital oriole
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3600xt shouldn't have any problem handling most gpus

solid pier
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yeah, 3050 seem like a waste rn

coarse lark
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Oh def. Internet says zero bottleneck with both 3060 and 3060ti at 1080p

vital oriole
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it can even handle a 3090 lol

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provided at higher res

cosmic bluff
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I've used 9400F on 3090 and yeah that was a decent little upgrade

cobalt lichen
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@wicked hound thanks for all the help

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does anyone know how to install the radeon hd series ati hd 6770

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my case has no place for its metal thingy to go into

keen nacelle
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might have to take off the little things on theback of the case

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to make room for the backplate

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wdm

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wym

keen nacelle
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dm me a pic of the back of your case

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ill show you

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ok

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wait

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i cant find my phone

livid idol
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Dremel time. My 5770 has the same blower cooler and spacer bar. It's ridiculous.