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Gotta remember the 3060 is a larger card though
I don't think those single fan 3060s sound too good
Is the RX6600 good?
I see a few people compare them
Ah
My bad
I found an RX 6600 for $389
Good deal?
Amazon
Shipped by Amazon
And it has the sapphire technology link
RTX no not at all
Dlss not too much no
I'm on 1080p yeah
No reason for me to go higher for me atm
Since I have a smaller display
It seems to be pretty close to the 3060
While having less power draw
And using 8 pin
I wouldnt recommend upgrading from a 1660s to a 6600
6700xt or 3060 ti imo
Makes sense
I think the 6600 would be the best if I wanted to stay with the prebuilt, but I probably have to move eventually
Eh, if theyre lucky enough to get a sub $500 3060 ti it's Wirth it
It's not much of an upgrade
Yeah
Dunno how much the 1660s stacks up
Compared to the 2000 series
I've been told to skip it
Cheapest 6700xt in stock rn is $20 less than 3060 ti

Nah i can't blame you
If you're faster eh fair
"Nooo don't get that gpu I wanted it!!!"
I don't really have a bias towards either amd or Nvidia
Tbf
20 series is fine
If you can grab a 2070s or higher I'd go for it
But you'd need a new psu if going for one of those or a 3060ti/6700xt to be safe
Probably when I rebuild my pc ill try to snag one of these bigger tiers
The 6600 is the best for my current psu, only real reason it came up
I'm about to just list my 6800xt at what I paid+shipping because I just want it gone
Yeah
And is a decent upgrade
This is just a thought thing atm
And 6600xt is a bit better than 3060 not including dlss/rtx
Pretty much
6800=3070 ti about
6800xt can beat 3080
6600=2060 or so, 6600xt =2070s
You get the point
Hm, could the 6600xt work in my pc
One sec
Believe so
Like 3D was in the early 2010s
Oh no it's perfectly fine
I just hate amd ocing
I have
It requires vbios modding
Which I'm not messing with
I also like being able to use trex
I just remembered Nintendo is apparently using FSR
From what I've heard
For switch sports
What a great use case
I'll watch the 6600xt online
It should be big enough of a jump to be worth it
Surprised how low the power draw is compared to a 3060
Finally I can play true next gen titles like
Black ops 3
Black ops 2
Black ops 1
Wait
World at War
Gran..turismo 2?
ok yeah GT2 is somewhat intensive to emulate
too bad its utter garbage
Eh the game will run fine either way
I don't think it's needed though
Cmon its the switch
The only Nintendo game I've played with Performance issues was day 1 BOTW
true all the games on it still using 5 year+ old looking graphics because hardware is garbo
Fair
Not gonna lie and say it's not true
Love the switch but I think it'll get the "New 3ds" treatment eventually
And that's for the better
gt710 beats the switch iirc
Too bad we won't get BOTW in native 60fps
Even with emulation the game engine just doesn't like 60fps
I highly doubt Nintendo would ever recode it
its the hardware not game engine most probably'
The game was made to play at 30 because the hardware yeah
And 30fps isn't bad if it's stable imo
ah
Especially for the slower, exploring esque game like it is
You can tell the physics engine was made around 30fps, so it mightve started with the wii u
Thats what BOTW was originally intended for
Was delayed like 4 times lol
So Nintendo pushed it back and made it both a switch and wii u game
From watching some videos the 6600xt seems like a pretty decent jump from the 1660 super
Jeez
but
make sure to run pcie 4.0
6600xt gets crippled when you run pcie 3.0
Due to 8 lanes of pcie 4.0 on the card
Lemme check
Yeah damn I think it uses 3.0
aw rip
Some prebuilt mobo
3060 is only viable
Welp staying at 1660 super
amd out there destroying the selling point of a budget card
I don't think the psu can handle the 3060
it could
3060 doesn't take much more power than 6600xt
It's not cutting it close with a 3600
It's just fine really
You have a psu with platinum 80+ rating anyway
It should be able to deliver basically full 400w
Yeah
I forgot about it lol
Lol
Does the 3060 need anymore then an 8 pin foe the power
Yea probably
I've heard 8, 12
But 12 for...rgb
Gross
3060 still kinda pricy though but eh
That's just the market
yeah
And it'll probably be loud
Then again I have a single fan 1660 super
Stays under 70 and I can't hear it
Same brand too
Pny
I think I'll just get a 2 fan
It should fit fine
Will the 3060 work fine on PCI 3?
I found a 3060 on newegg for $379
Nvm was a 3050
Pain
6600xt and 3060 are the two main ones I thinking about
They both hover near a similar price
6600xt has lower power draw but 3060 uses dlss
6600xt is slightly better than 3060. Both work perfectly fine with pci 3, little any difference in performance between 3 and 4
Yeah
Ehhh well some 6600xts are only 8 lanes....
Of gen 4
I mean mine was better than my 3060 on pci 3
Depends on country tbh
Can anybody plz dm me for help about black screen and gpu fan accelerating to 100% while gaming. GeForce Rtx 2060 6 gig. Can’t find any solutions online. PLEASE HELP!!
Bad psu?
I’m not tech savvy idk what caused it. Only a recent issue. Some days are worse than others
Try DDU, there's a guide in the pins
Otherwise it's just dead and you need to contact your GPU manufacturer and claim warranty/repair
Reason: Bad word usage
Bad word
Yup I could read it but still should be under GPU warranty so should be okay
Alright thanks guys I’ll give it a go
oh lort bb's droppin
Oh lordie
They make 6 gig models? Gross
I was gonna snag it but my current card is 6gb
That's actually plenty for that model. The bigger issue is $300+ for it.
5600xt is like 3 years old ish + there’s a lot more to a gpu than memory capacity
6gb is plenty for a 1080p card tbh
nah cold war doesnt use that much
Wondering if its a big jump of performance over the 1660s
I would assume so
If it was originally meant on the more budget end of the mid tier of cards
Only about 10% iirc
Id say more vram would be better for FH5
But I still think ultra/extreme quality is bugged
your gpu is a bigger problem than the vram ino
Probably
It's just at the edge of "this is fine, but I want a bit more"
If that sounds right
1660 super is definitely not a high detail card
More of an "esports" title card
Try medium
mhm
Cold war iffy on it
Jumps from the 60s to the 100ish range
Forza is actually pretty stable
Then again FH4 also was
A 1660 is a great card for what it could do it survived me torturing it using it for oculus link through modded beat saber and a lot of hours playing into the radius and the forest
1660 super trying to imitate a ps4 fan
I haven't tried vr with it yet
But beatsaber seems to be on the easier end of VR games to run
Considering it being a bit older and more simple
Not with mods like noodle extension's and chroma with bhaptics finally being added
And a 1650 super is the minimum requirements to run oculus link so a 1660 isn't too far behind but still a great little card
Ah
Basically 5600XT isn't enough of an upgrade to bother with.
. I mean look at the end of my name, I'm in a similar boat
5600xt isn't even an upgrade for you
It's a down grade
Exactly. I thought 1660S was close. Been a while since I've even read reviews on those old cards. Oh, actually I recall I'm close to a 2060 almost. After 1080 price drips surely not in a hurry to upgrade that now, & 40 series might just effect 30 series a bit if we're lucky
No
1070 very slightly loses to 2060
1080=2070 without dlss and rtx
Also worse nvenc
No big deal. It's very likely the old 3550 I tested w/ influenced timespy gfx score quite a bit. I'll test w/ this "3770" then I'll of course bench when I get the 11700 setup to see how things change.
And then 3060 falls between 2070 and 2070S
1080 and 1080 ti are still great cards
^ Yep, just missing latest features
Missing DLSS isn't as bad now that AMD stuff is getting bigger
And supports 10 series
Fal
I need an opinion
Im tryna sell my 6800xt, because I prefer nvidia
Don't like adrenalin
You came to the right person, I have lots of opinions
Straight trade?
6800XT is about 20% better than 3070 ti
Seems like a straight trade would be in Bacca's favor for sure
Reverse that
Yea, lol. Edit: I wouldn't do that swap even w/ cash from them. That's me who prefers Nvidia, but not their prices
Yeah, at 1440p gaming that's the difference of playing at 120 hz vs 165
What did you pay for it and what model of each card?
Btw 3070Ti is lately $700, sometimes. AMD definitely has decent value w/ their higher end stuff. 3070ti TDP is also a bit crap VS 3070 for example.
I know it slaps it around
Just one source of course, don't take that as gospel
Yikes just don't. Your card is cheaper and faster
Hes offering 100 on top, I asked for 150
Wait actually let me check fe MSRP again
I also don't need it
And won't use it
That might be fair
He said 125
Honestly you probably could get a straight trade for a 3080
Not with this market
I just wouldn't do that, but I guess if all you need is a 70Ti you're at least not losing money.
It may be possible, but it's highly unlikely
And I still have my 60 ti that I can sell to make ip the rest of the original cost and then some
If you're not doing 4k you don't need 3080 level performance anyway
I'm doing 1080p lmao
Do the trade and put 100-125 toward a 1440p high refresh monitor
Welp that's 200+ fps on max detail lol
Depends on CPU.
Idrc for 1440p gaming. I'm fine on 1080p for now
And game but yeah
Even more reason to drop down. My money is on you being CPU bound so you likely see the same performance even after switching cards
I know I'll be cpu bound
Overall it's a free upgrade
Well no. It's a downgrade. But you get a slightly cheaper 70Ti (assuming it's all legit)
No, because I'm selling the 6800xt if I'm not trading it
Actually tbh I'd probably go to 3070 before 70 Ti.
I dont like and ocing, and don't have a use for that
And I'll sell my 3060 ti to make up the rest of the cost
Well yeah, 70 is much better value
Yep
Oh yea plain 70 for instance would be a fair bit of hunting. Might be a few owners wanting to trade up.
I'm prolly gonna go for it, because it's still an upgrade from my 3060 ti (not much I know but still there) and will be "free"
You sure it's legit? Nothing wrong with the card or anything?
Hes gonna take a video of it working
I'll do the same when I get home
Current in phili
So trade isn't happening till the weekend
Ah that's good.
I messaged someone with a FB listing asking for that kind of thing and then they stopped replying
Either it was a scam or someone else wasn't so cautious
Nice
Accounts created this month with zero reviews and a "great deal'
No pfp as a bonus
It was an older account. Coulda been a card with something wrong with it, that'd be my main worry
Ah
If anything I'll prolly put it towards a cpu upgrade
I know it accomplishes a similar goal
But 5700x 
If your on AMD wait for that 3D stuff.
If your on Intel I'd aim for 12th gen as a big upgrade or 11th gen if you already have a board for it.
The IPC will help you.
Got an meh b550. It'll survive with a 5700x
If I don't go for a 5700x I have my eyes on a 13600k
Which board?
Check it against this list. It's not 100% accurate of course but helpful for the most part. Even the Pro-VDH is C tier, which does 125A with very little airflow. Enough for a 5900X at 1.2v. My board is a C tier running OC'd 5800X.
https://linustechtips.com/topic/1137619-motherboard-vrm-tier-list-v2-currently-amd-only/
Credit to: @LukeSavenije The following list is based on facts, ranked on power delivery and known problems. The list will include boards that support CPU overclocking available at retail from different brands. There are still differences in performance among boards of the same tier. As a result, ...
mine be tier b
I wouldnt put too much stock in VRM tiers
in my experience unless you are using LN it really shouldn't matter too much
if those numbers were really accurate it should be impossible for my F tier gigabyte z370p d3 to oc my 8700k to 5.3 on all cores but yet it does and has for the last 5 years now
I want to preface that I'm not saying a better mobo isnt a good idea it just really shouldn't have a big impact on performance or overclocking ability for majority of users
D tier
Still good enough, 100A with low airflow
If it becomes a problem put a fan near the vrm
Msrp of the 7600xt is supposed to be around $400-$500
And its supposed to be around 6800xt perf, with better Ray tracing
Take rumors like that with a big grain of salt
Eh, I just ignore them until very close to release and even then I take them with a massive grain of salt until reviews come in
Perf is probably in the right ball park - price is anyones gusss
do we know if they are dedicating cores to ray tracing this time?
They already dedicated cores to RT no?
I didnt think amd did but maybe I'm wrong
oh yeah they did 6700,6800,6900 for sure
I mean how else would they do RT
software
They don't have specific RT cores like Nvidia rtx cards do
Ohh i thought they had cores for it... Guess they just virtualised it?
I believe so
My 1060-mobile technically traced some rays in Quake 2 rtx, but it did so at like single digit fps iirc
yeah like the 6800xt can make 72 of its cores act as "ray accelerators" but like @green harness said they arent dedicated like nvidia where they are only tuned for ray tracing
Ahhh that makes sense
but in the end not sure which will be better. In the nvidia cards those cores are essentially worthless when not using RT and the amd cores can swing both ways
right now nvidia cards can get about double the performance RT wise out of the same number of cores as amd but that can probably be improved on with software.
Yeah if rt cores could do raster even if not as good that would be a good improvement
and even better for AMD, Khronos Group/Vulcan is working on the software end not them lol
Lol
I like AMD but their drivers....
They just bad?
they do I agree just had some bad experiences in the past
makes sense
and I unfairly sometimes lump their cpu software in
for gpu i just wish they were a little quicker they seem to have one update for every 4 a same age nvidia card gets
I haven't had any of the issues with nvidia drivers that I've heard other people have had
Even with hashrate I've never had issues, like sips has had issues with newer drivers messing with hashrate
nvidia has messed with hash rate limiting/blocking a lot more than amd
Oh definitely
I just much prefer nvidias ocing
Which is why I switched back to nvidia so quickly
I bought one of those radeon vii paper weights so I am a little bias
not really
a 1070 would perform better
It isn't an upgrade from your 1660 super
Gotcha
At all
you could try to find a 6700 for around $300 if you want amd
well i mean used obviously
Sold my soul on ebay for 50 bucks
yeah I should have said $400
That still doesn't make sense
these prices need to start coming down already...
You said 6700
They're drivers are good - excluding rx 5000 that was a bit messy the rest are rock solid - i had an r9 380 for 5 years? My gf has a 580 and no problems
A bid
buy it nows are closer to 450
They could get a 3060/6600xt sure but not 6700xt
^
yeah I thought they would be cheaper by now
Outta curiosity
Is 3070 ti+ 125 an alright trade for my 6800xt
Yeah I'm just looking at 3060/6600xt
Don't swing either way
Whatever is cheaper I buy
3060 would be a nice if it was actually msrp
What was msrp? I honestly forgot
$330
Personally i think 3070 ti + 175 -200 for a 6800xt depending on model
330, but fe doesn't exist
Fe and reference
Both basically new
3060s go for about 400$ now tho
I couldnt find a new one for less than 450
Evga drops them for 430 consistently
I think 3070 ti + 175 imo maybe + 150 but 125 would be an undersell
do they still do that stupid wednesday thing
Np
?
What Wednesday thing?
used to have special deals on wednesdays on EVGA
Spin a wheel we either kill you or give you a gpu
I never seen that
I get their spam emails
Huh
Hi everyone
A friend of mine has a problem with his pc, the main problem might be the GPU, (1660s) the GPU/entire PC shuts down, black screen, and it automatically restarts immediately after
What could it be?
Uhhhh
Open up event viewer on their pc
Where is it?😅
Windows search for event viewer
👍
Then open custom views -> administrative events
could be a lot of things
See if you see anything time stamped before their shutdown
Shutdown will be called kernal error most likely
how old is the pc?
Only kernel, but it just because he voluntarily shut it down
What was changed
simple things that could cause that are a dying cmos battery, or loose cables from the power button
of course I am assuming what you are saying is : they power it on and then sometime prior to windows loading it restarts then does actually load into windows
frontier's edition? don't think so
I wonder if they make some for the photos on their website or if those are just renders
*Artistic product rendering.
Reference?
No reference card for anything under 6700xt and no founders for anything under 3060 ti
for crypto mining in style
I dont think it games very well though
Radeon™ Vega Frontier Edition (Air-cooled)
May have found the problem, my friend activated SVM (which I personally don't even know why it's for)
After that the pc started to crash
Looks kinda like the LA Valiant made a GPU
Maybe it's just a coincidence
If you want the "founders edition" for the AMD new cards just 3D print it 👍
update chipset drivers
from amd support site
NOT motherboard page
and update bios
For reference
https://images.app.goo.gl/ubcGUcEVutC3dP4T7
I was assuming it was amd too but i didnt want to jump to conclusions LOL
intel calls it VT-x
not svm
Amds site has most up to date
ah
Oh, you mena they don't care much about placing single updates for motherboard directly on the motherboard updates section?
yeah
🤨 🤨 bruh
they list compatible ones
just not always latest
but yeah getting drivers from the company that made the product always best
its more important to AMD than the mobo manufacturor
Download that
and use it to go through each section
ull have all the drivers u need
also same reason why you go to nvidia/amds website for gpu drivers as opposed to evga,asus,msi, etc...
see evga has them but no one would download them from here
I didn’t even know EVGA had drivers
those are the same drivers from nvidia
just reposted on the evga webpage for quick access
you will notice that they are also behind by one
Version: 512.16 WHQL
Release Date: 2022.3.29
Hi I have a question!
I’m about to swap my gpu (1660 super) for a new one (2070 super) and was wondering do I need to have two separate pcie cables from my psu to power the gpus 8 & 6 pin or will one cable with two heads work?
should i just get a 3060ti rn or wait for a 4060\
Use 2 if you can
Depends if you can wait - guessing you have igp because of nick so I'd buy now and get a cpu upgrade
Okay I currently have plugged in a single 8 - 2x6+2 pcie from my psu, you’d recommend a second cord from my psu for each power port on the gpu?
12400 or 12600k yeah
hmm ok ty
Yes
most likely 4080 and 4070 should be the first to arrive... 4060 probably mid to end 2023
just so you know
and thats if the 40 series arrive mid to end 2022
makes sense
ASUS KO GeForce RTX 3060 Ti was $530 on newegg before OOS, just to mention how prices are slowly but surely improving. 3070 at $650 or less would also start to be pretty good. Strix 3070 for exactly $700 isn't currently too crazy though.
yeah i've been noticing a lot of good deals like that recently
It's funny even the 3060 Ti beats 2080 Ti in many games. Last June I sure overpaid a bit, but I'm also not sad I skipped 20 series.
That's why you got so many people panic selling their 2080 ti right around the time of 3060 ti launch. I saw some people get one for $250.
Is it okay that I’m running two cables and one daisy chain on my 3080? I mean like 2 ports have their own cables to them and one port is daisy chained
It's probably fine. The spec says 150W per cable (including daisy chained) but most power supplies are overbuilt and can take 250W+. The voltage might not be as reliable but that's a minor thing.
That and sometimes need to wait for worse bins
Butttt uhh that doesn't even make sense tho even with 400$ 3060 ti 
Oh I'd take a $250 2080 Ti over a $400+ 3060 Ti any day.
Lmao
Kid on marketplace offered me a trade of a razer laptop
Said it's worth 1k
Has a 970m kekw
And I quote
"It's supply demand"
Lol
Reply with a 3060 1k laptop link
900 open box from trusted retailer kek
https://www.newegg.com/p/N82E16834233449R
Nvm saw the rest of the thread. Need coffee
What's the point in lying in the price thing
It's not like fb doesn't go to $1330
@rugged thunder Facebook doesn't let you ship items over 500$
So they list for 500 so the listing reaches more people
Also if they sort low to high it will show up sooner
How would you even do the transaction for something over 500 without getting scammed
Will this card "MSI Ventus GeForce RTX 3080 12GB GDDR6X PCI Express 4.0 Video Card RTX 3080 VENTUS 3X PLUS 12G OC LHR" install on my "X470 GAMING PRO CARBON AM4" MOBO?
Not sure about the PCI 4.0.
https://www.msi.com/Motherboard/X470-GAMING-PRO-CARBON/Specification
There's some other questions first
What cpu are you running
I'd also not buy that gpu
Cooling is terrible
On 3070 or lower its alright
But not on g6x
3x is fiiiinneeeeee
It is fine
Especially considering a decent model 3080 10gb will cost less and isn't much worse
AMD Ryzen™ 9 5900X
Back to my original question
Also
Better model than the ventus and I'd assume cheaper
Yes, it will work on that motherboard
It will work but i would try get a better card than ventus 3080, it's just alright
But id get that instead ^^
There's the xc3 as well for under 1k
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/MNTp99/evga-geforce-rtx-3080-12gb-lhr-12-gb-xc3-ultra-gaming-video-card-12g-p5-4865-kl
Under 1k 
Petition for 3080 12gb to be renamed 3080 super?
For 20$ more I'd just grab the ftw3
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/wQNxFT/evga-geforce-rtx-3080-12gb-lhr-12-gb-ftw3-ultra-gaming-video-card-12g-p5-4877-kl
Yeah thats the first one I linked
Yeah that's nice
Mfw 12gb 3080s are cheaper than 10gb
Think 10gb is being phased out
Mm
.
Ok thanks
Knife fight
Oh I see
So I’m assuming upgrading from a 1070 to a 3080 should make games look and run much better. Oddly, I do see forum comments about 3080’s sometimes with poor FPS.
Probably some kind of bottlenecks?
"Guys will my quad core cpu bottleneck my 3080"
Yes. And ignore those forums, I haven't had any issues running a single game at ultra 1080p with a 3060 ti
Unless its some extreme bottleneck yeah I wouldn't worry
Theyre prolly running 4k and wondering why they can't do 60fps ultra
4k and raytracing
Mmm
And don't wanna submit to 30fps
"Ew console fps"
Or somethin
The higher I see people go in hardware the more they complain it can't do things they want
"Why can't the 3080 do 4K 60FPS with raytracing this card blows"
Yea I just run 1080. Get 100 FPS on max settings with most games. Had to upgrade my CPU for BF2042 though.
A 3080 for 1080p?
Yeah you're fine lmao
"I hate scalpers"
buys from them every month
You know what isn't scalped? Mario Tennis on Nintendo 64
3080 is such overkill for 1080p. What cpu do you have?
Yea its like $25 lmao
I want a boxed mario tennis
It was the first game daisy was playable in
Ryzen 9 9500
(So automatically good)
Mans entering a Lamborghini into a miata racing championship
Yep
Ok if I didn't JUST get a gpu I would buy this
Gives me gaming options. My rig in horribly imbalanced with the 1070
Lol
Some boxed N64 games won't cost your liver and first born child
looking at Majora's mask
Probably not as much demand for Mario Tennis
Worst combo
Doesn't sell well originally
Becomes a cult classic in 20-30 years
Yep if a 3080 is having poor fps they're doing unplayable settings or messed something up
My brother runs into issues with Resident Evil Village at 4k with maxed out settings. I suspect he may be trying to use too much VRAM, but I've had a hard time convincing him to just turn things down 😕
So it can happen
Yes unplayable settings at least for a 3080 lol
out of curiosity
if nvidia made a card that wasnt pcie powered
could an AIB make a pcie powered version?
Yeah he's considering getting a 90 now 😕
Yup they did that with the 1650
Might as well go full send on the 90 ti then
Or else just deal with it until the 4080 comes out and almost doubles performance
Bought it. Thanks for the advise. The prices for GPU's have been ridicules but have recently come down somewhat.
I'm trying to convince him to just wait. idk if he overestimates what he could get for his 3080 or what
But it's also his money and PC so overall I just want to share my perspective and give advice on how to get what he wants if he does choose to upgrade
People who wait for the next best thing never get anything. Especially with gaming computers.
That's 100% not what this is about
This is about cost/benefit
It's a good time to upgrade his 7700k to a new platform, it's not a great time to go from one of the best GPUs available to a slightly better GPU (imo) especially since the vram is likely most useful for one game
And about nothing in the current gen having the capability that they want, 4k high fps on a graphically challenging game on max settings
Yep, it's pretty far down the diminishing returns curve
3060 ti for $550ish is as close to a value* choice someone can have. It matches a 2080 ti at least. No doubt a 7700K would see a moderate upgrade to a even just a 12400.
My question is… Do I go for a 3060ti or a 3060
If you can, 3060ti
3060ti is decently better than 3060, a good margin despite the similarity of the name
in fact a big margin between those 2 unlike the 3070 and the 70ti
Yeah 3060 & 3060 ti about 30-35% away in performance and also price, give or take. 3060 ti AIB is often $550ish now & for example matches 2080 ti at least. 👍 - imo depends on what ya upgrade from and/or if the $150-200 savings is a big deal.
i'm getting my brother's rx 6600 at the end of the year and was wondering if it would need a nice airflow case (im thinking of 4000d right now)
6600 won't be too hot for it to matter much. Airflow is still best but as long as it's not a H510 or something it's fine.
I cringe whenever people have the H510 case on their list with a NZXT aio
Like, you're literally paying more for garbage.
Corsair is expensive too, but their AIO's are at least good. Their problem being the awful software with ICUE
Their cases are great though
Nah, I suggest an aio from someone who's had a good rep w/ them instead of a random not fantastic case maker. Even cooler master has some sketch aios
<-- this emote for that reason lol. Generally quite a handful of good aio companies and good aios. Arctic Freezer II, EK, Lian Li has a few, nzxt actually has a couple. I'd have to look more up as I prefer a normal HSF until the day I need an aio like w/ a future 13700K or something.
40 series isn't gonna double performance it just isn't realistic
30*. 3080 12GB is already $1K, asus tuf 70Ti & Strix 70 hit $700 or less, 60 Ti has hit around $550. That's non-FE obviously, and sure FE can usually sometimes be had for orig nvidia msrp. Juasage Man, 3060 is similar to 2070S, 3060 Ti matches 2080 Ti. 
Best part about it is adding more fans to the h510 makes it worse
NZXT cases don't even look good
Eh nzxt aios are nothing special just a normal asetek :/ can be thrown in the pile with corsair etc.. I'd actually through the deepcool gammaxx aio in that list instead of nzxt not as good as the other 3 but non asetek
Prices are mainly just dropping in NA btw also they meant drop like release
Oh yeah, I meant instead of 20 at a decent price, got 30 at a decent price. Personally I think the only 1 or 2 I'm eyeballing lately is 3060 Ti /3070. Sort of no hurry even if prices drop a bit. 
sure. In the old days 90 tier was a dual gpu card. exactly 1/2 performance of a 3090 sure isn't too shabby.
Is it ok to "overclock" Vega 11 graphics on R5 2400g?
If yes, how should I do it (by using afterburner)
Considering it is an iGPU it might be different than a normal GPU
Nah
It's same oc procedure as cpu
Just no vram oc cauze ofc the vram is system ram shared to it
You can oc the igp in 2400g just fine
You can oc igpu as well iirc
Ramen with bone broth, crispy duck, eggs, pork butt, and chives. Yum
I want to upgrade my SFF office PC's graphics card and here is the photo so the question is I saw GTX 1650 low profile is the best choice for office pc but I'm scared that if it won't fit
find the dimensions of the space that the gpu will go in
or if you know the case/pc model, google can do that for you
Just picked this up!
It's dope because in the end this will only cost me like $300. I sold my 2060 when I got my 3060 in the EVGA queue, I'll do the same again.
nice
I haven't really planned on upgrading until I checked newegg today and saw this in stock. It's also instock on EVGA. I got a 2440x1440 panel for xmas. It does decent with this 3060ti but in some games I lost performance. The 3070ti should work great with my i7-9700k and my 32gb of ram.
Real
I need someone that helps me find the exact dimensions for the GTX1070 pny xlr8
I have to cut some plexiglass for the backplate
tried google?
Need only these 2 dimensions
Yes, but it approximates
I want to see if anyone has this card and can take measurements
I'm not at home rn
if the card is yours better to wait to get home and take the measurements yourself, is safer that way
Guesstimations will screw you over
3060 on newegg 389
... could also just Google the card
Lol Bacca. Ventus 2x 3060 for 389$ + 9.99 shipping. Yes or no? ;P
Ventus is a no, but that price is pretty much a yes in the current market.
What is ventus doodoo
Getting closer and closer to FE msrp, and it should be for what it compares to.
3Anyone know of a quick and easy way I can boost the performance of this 6700xt before giving it to the customer. Its scoring low on timespy
Ventus is literally the worst AIB model iirc. it matches FE in terms of clocks but has really bad cooling compared to literally any other model
Oh indeed, my previous was also for the evga pic right above. Still feels weird a 50 series is $300ish.
No
Evga does 3060 drops for $430 often
There was one for $420 on b stock earlier
I didn't see it till just now
Cuz work
That's 40$ more tho that's like more than 10%
389 + 10$ is cheaper than 430$
$30 for much better cooling
the performance is the same. 2x Ventus is okay for a 3060. shouldn't thermal throttle
assuming you don't suffocate it of course
Can't be worse than the Phoenix fan 2060.
Didn't you need a GPU for your SO?
Yep
Why not use that
ah
For the trip I took down to visit them
Didn't I invite you to the server I use?
Ah
F
I'd take left overs
jk
I wonder what my next build will be
I gotta put together the 11400/3050 after work today.
What case are you using?
ew USB 2.0 on the front
309.88mm clearance
damn, cant fit a 3090 ti
sucks
single fan 3090 when
never hopefully
single fan 4090 ti when
hopefully single fans are gone once 40 series exists
maybe back for 50 if they fix power usage
Phoenix fan's improvements are okay on the 3050, wouldn't want it on anything over that though
Phoenix fan 2060's heatsink is the true issue. Two pipes and the fins are less than 2 slots.
3050 is 3 pipes and 2.5 slots instead.
I haven't bothered looking at the 3060 either tbh. bleh

One single blower + 360mm aio dunked in ice bucket xD
is that a wooper
I think they could get away with a Noctua Phoenix fan 3060. if they did the same and extended the heatsink height to 3 slots. but then whats the point. most ITX PC's you'd want it for are not really for 3 slot GPU's


its old people ice cream
What? No
It's like ice cream but with some tang
Nothing wrong with some froyo
Never said it was the same. You should open your mind and be accepting of diverse frozen treats
Frozen Jello
ill send you a gpu in return for monetary compensation
4 way rtx 3090 ti sli when? Why? Cause f you, and your psu
never
We had 4x nvlink 3090 earlier, meh
But how bout 4x 4090 ti sli?
Ik, but the power requiements would be stupid
Thats why I suggested it
Cause it funny
I am fully prepared to install a 240v outlet for my pc
bruh saw a great deal today only $430 pretax for a 1060 such a deal right?
oh amazing
fs fs thats why its expensive
good deal if it was 2014-15
idk I wasn't into pc gaming until 30 series so all I've ever known is inflated prices
same
This is pretty much the worst prices have ever been. Obviously 2080 Ti was maybe $700 or w/e. Crazy that 30 series is more than a year old now also.
999 MSRP, 1200 FE
2080 was 699 MSRP, 799 Founders.
When the supers came out it did shift 2060, 2070 and 2080 down 100$ though.
Well technically it could be possible if you used different SLI auto but I’m not sure
But that’s also true SLI and not NVLink so performance 
when will the "Super" 30 series come out ya think?
will games ever crash because i undervolted my card?
if too low, of course.
Not if it's a stable undervolt
How does integrated graphics work with an external GPU
For example Vega11 + GTX1060
Does the "power" of the 2 GPUs sum? Or can I use only one GPU at the time?
AMD had that tech with laptops
But it flopped so hard
So they stopped it
It was like 2013
yeh
Already came out, see 3070Ti, 3080 12gb, 3080 Ti, 3090 Ti
With 40 series coming this fall I don't expect more SKUs to launch in 30 series
No you use whichever the display is connected to
unless something like intel igpu and rendering in premiere pro
Yis
Okk thanks
late but congrats on mod 👏
Thanks
dammit now i have to behave around pato 
Hmmm
@heady turtle dumdum
ok bye
Thanks
Can someone explain to me why 2060 super's are so expensive?
Last gen, not in mass production any more
Reason: Bad word usage
then dont lmao
you can get a 3060 ti brand new for less
but wont I have to increase my power supply?
not really
i ran one on a 500w psu
depends on what psu youh ave though
I only got a 500w
what model?
EVGA BR
what cpu?
ryzen 5
B tier 700w for $60 https://www.amazon.com/dp/B08D3Q2YZ7?tag=pcpapi-20&linkCode=ogi&th=1
So I would have to get that?
you can
it should be fine without a new psu
but together its cheaper than the 2060s lol
and much better perf
however i ran a 3060 ti and 3600 (ryzen 5) on a 500w bomb
by bomb i mean terrible psu
yours is either b or c tier, i forget
so without ocing youll be fine
ocing? sorry I dont know much
overclocking
ohh yea I'm fine without doin that
Br was low priority c
3060ti should do okay one 500w PSU, uv might help perf though
What is LHR ? just seen it from looking "GeForce RTX 3060 Ti LHR"
Halved eth and erg mining hash rate
Alright thx
oh it affects ergo too?
It affected something else too because the Alg was too similar
I'm thinking ergo but might be something else
octo maybe?
Maybe
https://pcpartpicker.com/user/ty-_-/saved/p3DW4D So does this all seem like a compatible build?
new 1000 - AMD Ryzen 5 3600, GeForce RTX 3060 Ti LHR, Corsair 275R Airflow ATX Mid Tower
idk if the 3060 will fit my case though

Random question, but does anyone know what the differences are between the xtx and xtxh chips in these aib 6900xts that I'm looking at? I see them every now and then and it makes me curious
Yes because it's similar to ethash but t-rex has it at 99-100% anyway. It might dip below if you have a bad OC or something.
Xtxh is just an expensive binned gpu & mem clock is the same, approx 10% higher boost clock. Bottom 1 is the xtxh of course. Sometimes could be had for $1400-1600 actually. Comparable to 3090 perhaps.
So would an xtxh be worth 100-200 more if I was just planning on gaming on my gpu? (I don't even know how to overclock because I've never owned a gaming pc before)
Or should I pass on it and just take whatever I can get?
Only get if was for some reason similar price to non-xtxh. Imo it's getting to be a bad time to spend too much on a gpu when 6000/30 has been out a while and next gen is later this year.extra drops a possibility. 
True
Thanks for the advice bro
How much does low data rate (2400mhz), single Channel, 16Rx8, CL22 RAM affect Vega1q integrated graphics?
Compared to a good memory?
(3200mhz, 1Rx8, CL16)
Ok
Kind of noticed that when playing games with the iGPU
Framerates are much worse than the ones shown in benchmark videos
If u going for an amd gpu use amd.com they restock every Thursday morning at 9am CST
Then u can get a reference model for msrp
Probably speed of ram
Hi Guys I am looking at getting the Lian-Li Strimer cables for my GPU which cables is it? I have a 3070. Or does anyone know of a good place to get modded cables
They're the PCIe 6+2 (8 pin) cables
thanks
Mr Canadian, you can find one on Evga for good prices
Lmao I found my old gigabyte 2070
foundd
I misplaced it’s box somewhere
did you just have it in a cupboard 💀
…maybe
man you could have sold that for 500$
It’s a broken 2070
WHAT
Gotta love gigabyte
should have just demanded a refund at that point
It only started artifacting a year after buying so not much I could do
is the warrenty not longer than 1 yr?
4 year warranty but like I won’t get a refund
gigabyte have a 4 year warranty......
they would have to if it keeps just dying or at least a replacement
so u cant send it in a nget a new card???
could also just sell it as broken or for parts for like 150
They said no when I asked about that
Not a bad idea
but... then what does the warrenty do
but u said rma didnt work
Exactly
so gigabyte is lying sue their ass lmao
lol
Should’ve but taking them to small claims court would be more money than it’s worth
Actually a nice looking card
Cute how small it is compared to my 3080
Mayhaps should have been more pushy because they clearly couldn't fix it and it was not in a useable state
I guess you could sell for parts on ebay or something
Or try rma again
Just cost gigabyte a fortune in rmaing it and mail
LOL
They got so annoyed they’re taking a year and a half now to approve the 8th attempt 
Oof probably got ignored... Cancel and re apply it
Out of warranty and I don’t really care that much at this point
I’ve had this GPU since release of the OG 20 series
Just checked back then it was a 3 year warranty
Damm
Dang
Was the $220 S70, but glance at the sn770 for 1 example https://www.amazon.com/dp/B09QV5KJHV
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