graphics-cards

[lone pond]

Your boy got one

Em es are pee

[solemn panther]

Woagh

Congratulations

One of the hardest cards on earth to get

[heady turtle]

Pogg

[orchid totem]

ay guys i need help

i currently have a 1080ti fe

im talking w this guy and im gonna trade my 1080ti + money for his 3060ti eagle oc

[lone pond]

Thanks habibi

[orchid totem]

should i back off the trade? heard the 3060ti eagle oc is meh

[heady turtle]

Eagle is an okay cooler, it's their baseline one but not the best, not terrible , also how much are they asking for cash wise?

[orchid totem]

i live in israel so pricing snt gonna make sense unless ur from here

but its 450 usd

1080tis arent selling well here and ppl are avoiding them because of their age

[heady turtle]

Not worth that much of a jump up, those people are crazy that's literally as good as a 3060 but doesn't have ray tracing

[orchid totem]

thing is

3060tis are 1k usd new

if you can even find them in stock

[heady turtle]

Ouch

[orchid totem]

prices in israel is very different

are

i can get much better models for the price but

not everyone is gonna accept a trade in yno

[heady turtle]

Yeah but it's not worth the price difference

[orchid totem]

especially not a 5 year old graphics card with no warranty

[orchid totem]

with that logic i might aswell not upgrade at all

a 3070 is 1.3k

3080 1.5-16

used prices btw

not new

[heady turtle]

Think about it tho you're paying for a 25% upgrade for a lot of money, and 6 months before the 40 series launch

[orchid totem]

the same thing happened with the 30 series

they all said wait till the 30 series drop

but none of them got their hands on one

theyre all getting scalped

[heady turtle]

Not really, with 30 series people panic sold their 2080 ti's right before

[orchid totem]

scalping

[heady turtle]

But 40 series is actually leaked to be a massive leap

Also supply is improving

[orchid totem]

yeah because the hype died and theyre not scalping as much anymore

my 1080ti is already starting to struggle

on 1440p

[heady turtle]

What are you playing? Maxed out settings

[orchid totem]

who knows if its gonna be alive till then

[orchid totem]

no i dont even max them out

[heady turtle]

It's gonna live just fine lol

Have you at least overclocked it?

[orchid totem]

no

im not overclocking an fe card

already gets way too hot

and i dont know much ab over locking

it struggles on gta v not even highest settings

and gets like 50-82 fps on forza horizon 5

high-ultra

its fine for other games but i play these games alot

[heady turtle]

Very easy tbh

[lone pond]

Msi afterburner

[heady turtle]

I mean you could always turn down the details a bit

[orchid totem]

its legit constantly on 84c

[heady turtle]

Also undervolting can help with the heat

[orchid totem]

when playing games

its gonna go back to being at the limit after ocing

[heady turtle]

@orchid totem
https://youtu.be/zUkPAVcb9Xc

Check that out

[orchid totem]

undervolting never really worked for me but ill try

ty for the help

[heady turtle]

Np

[orchid totem]

im rushing this too much

i already got screwed over so much times because i bought gpus without researching too much

ill try undervolting then clocking and see if its worth it

[daring violet]

my EVGA RTX 3060 kinda vibrates when either fan starts and stops. it’s quite annoying because during gameplay the fans just kind of start and stop to save on power i think. it’s just kind of weird having your PC vibrate a little bit every 1-2 minutes

i know it’s the GPU fans because i tested all of my fans individually and yeah the GPU one was the culprit

dunno how i’m gonna remedy this though

honestly though it isn’t that annoying, it’s just weird

i’ve had this happening since i first got it which was about a year ago

like i said, not too annoying but just plain weird

[normal hawk]

@heady turtle @orchid totem couldn't it just need a repasting?

[sick slate]

This is where I can ask graphics cards questions, right?

[vital oriole]

yes

[sick slate]

How does the Geforce RTX 3060 to the RTX4000 and Quadros P6000-2000 and Quadro M6000-M2000 and Quadro K5200-K420?

I know that's a huge range

but I bought a laptop with the 3060 today but need to run a program that recommends the Quadro series.

[vital oriole]

3060 wins over M and K ones any day

P not quite sure but 3060 should be enough

Don't worry about it

[sick slate]

Awesome! Thank you, just wanted to check

[orchid totem]

thats how the 1080ti fe is

it just gets super hot

[normal hawk]

oh its the FE, ya

[orchid totem]

yeahh

dont think i can oc it much

do u think i should go for the deal? @normal hawk

[orchid totem]

^

[normal hawk]

How much cash?

[orchid totem]

450 usd but 3060ti's go for 1k here

[normal hawk]

Eh. That's crazy. If you really feel like you need it, go for it.

[orchid totem]

thats how it is in israel

[keen nacelle]

Looks like 680m is about equal to a 1650mq

At 50w power limit on the cpu

[orchid totem]

@normal hawk okay so

i found a guy whos willing to do the same deal

for a 6700xt reference

[heady turtle]

That too probably

But Israel is hot

[orchid totem]

its very cold in the winter and hot in the summer

i live in the mountains area tho

@heady turtleshould i get the 6700xt refrence instead?

[heady turtle]

If 3060 ti and 6700xt where same value I'd go 3060 ti

[orchid totem]

what

[heady turtle]

Same price*

[orchid totem]

the 6700xt is between the 3006it

and 3070

closer to the 3070

3060ti*

[heady turtle]

It's closer to 3060 ti yeah

Its a bit better

[orchid totem]

then why go with the 3060ti

its much better in most games

with the driver updates its much better than before

yeah im just gonna

get the 6700xt

now that amd has fsr too it should be perfect

[normal hawk]

Pato is bias to Nvidia. Jk

[orchid totem]

ong

all my negative experiences with amd were because of

my lack of experience

always got the worst cards u can get

hows the reference 6700xt tho? @normal hawk

[normal hawk]

I dunno.

I've only had 5700xt, 580, and an r7 240 from AMD

[heady turtle]

Most people are a bit biased towards the nvidia features, dlss, rtx voice, also the nvidia cards are better for mining to get some money back

[heady turtle]

Decent

[normal hawk]

I would have gladly gotten a 6900xt but no one wanted to trade for my FHR 3080 on reddit. Probably cause it's ZOTAC.

[orchid totem]

i dont mine

amd has fsr now

i dont care ab rtx voice

and the particular 3060ti model im getting was bad

[orchid totem]

ive had a 570, vega 64 and a 5700xt

the 570 was the msi armor which is meh

vega 64 was the refrence so it fot extremely hot and crashed

and the 5700xt was the asus tuf

which also got hot and crashed

[heady turtle]

Well rx 5000 was just a bit buggy in general

And asus tuf is a great cooler

[orchid totem]

yeah ik

no

the 5000 series were bad

their fitment was bad

coolers were bad too

it was constantly on 84

it would get so hot it crashes

[heady turtle]

I hadn't heard any compaints about it

[orchid totem]

its been called the worst 5700xt by so many

bro

[heady turtle]

84c isn't crash territory

[orchid totem]

people legit are confused about how asus is willing to sell

such a bad product

[orchid totem]

its on 84c all the time

its locked to 84c

it still gets so hot that it crashes

its a known issue with the asus tuf 5700xt

[heady turtle]

Hmm maybe it was another one they tried to copy paste over from a 2070

But btw if you haven't already, set your own fan profile the ones that come out of the box are usually garbage

Yeah if you don't care about the nvidia features then sure go 6700xt

[orchid totem]

its not gonna change anything on the fe\

im going with the 6700xt yeah

i talked w the guy

[heady turtle]

But should consider mining , nice way to pay back your card, especially in the winter when it's colder

[hybrid fox]

3 bad radeons?

damn that's unlucky

[orchid totem]

yeah i might do that

[orchid totem]

ikr

[keen nacelle]

guys i found a 3080 for $90

[lone pond]

i think we both know you shouldnt buy it

[heady turtle]

Seems legit

[keen nacelle]

yeah i know, its a joke

i did finally find a decent priced 1650 thats basically brand new

$150

theres a diff one for 125 but its a few years old

id rather just go with the new one

[crisp tendon]

I keep finding founders edition cards for sale on Facebook

Often for £800-1000

Depending on model

[keen nacelle]

if the model varies theyre not fe?

[heady turtle]

I'd assume they mean 3070 3080 etc

[heady turtle]

Look at r/hardwareswapUK as well

[crisp tendon]

Tbh I'm not sure if I want an NVIDIA GPU or an AMD one

[keen nacelle]

whatever you can find closest to msrp

[crisp tendon]

Don't you need to have something worth swapping? Or do you swap parts for money in private sales? 🤷🏻‍♂️

[keen nacelle]

you can trade or buy

[crisp tendon]

The trouble is MSRP has gone way up so doesn't really matter when the manufacturer charges more than they did pre-pandemic

[heady turtle]

the only ones that are msrp are FE tbh but Scan drop them about every month or so, id recommend looking up a discord server that will ping you when they drop and hope youre quick

[glossy basalt]

If you don't care at all about other productivity workloads that don't involve higher core clocks and you also don't care about ray tracing performance then sure AMD is a great option

[heady turtle]

Core clocks are similar anyway lol

[crisp tendon]

I mean I don't care for the latest games at super high frame rates on 244Hz 4K monitors 🤷🏻‍♂️

[keen nacelle]

god facebook marketplace is annoying asf

i finally found a card, went to pay him, and it isnt letting me pay with my debit card

and it doesnt accept credit cards

[unkempt tulip]

Is the 6500xt better than a 1650

[keen nacelle]

meh

depends

if your system is pcie 3.0 or 4.0

[lone pond]

is 650 us a good price for a brand new strix 3060 ti?

[heady turtle]

yeah

[unkempt tulip]

4.0

[lone pond]

https://www.newegg.com/asrock-radeon-rx-6500-xt-rx6500xt-pgd-4go/p/N82E16814930067

[unkempt tulip]

$220 sheesh

W

[ivory herald]

Yea, just keep in mind a 3070 can often be had at $700ish.

[hybrid fox]

how much does a 5500xt cost again

i'm pretty sure that's gonna be better than a 6500xt

[hasty sphinx]

I thought this was pretty cool.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=liChy76nQJ4

[heady turtle]

Not really 6500xt is very mediocre, compares to 200$ gpus like 4 years ago

[heady turtle]

Not in stock in stock, more best buy drop etc

[heady turtle]

Meh, you have to destroy your pcie covers for it to work and personally don't think it will be great in the long run, sag brackets/stands are very cheap

[hasty sphinx]

True. Still interesting though. Since it is free and seems to work. Long term seems viable unless the covers started buckling or whatever, but to me that doesn't seem likely if they are trippled like his are.

[keen nacelle]

i found an oem 2060 for $300

kinda nice but not gonna go for it

weary of it being a scam

[heady turtle]

That's an okay price

Just remember probably 0 to no power limit headroom

[keen nacelle]

yeah

[tall lichen]

What's a good price for an RTX 3050?

[keen nacelle]

i would not pay over 325

[tall lichen]

Fair enough

Shame most of them seem to go for around 400

[keen nacelle]

yeah

im gonna try for a low msrp one next bb drop

[normal hawk]

Yeah, Asus increased the price of the Phoenix Fan 3050 which is heartbreaking imo.

[tall lichen]

It is

[unkempt tulip]

1660 super or 3050?

They are both for the same price on newegg rn

[unkempt tulip]

😳🤯

https://www.newegg.com/msi-geforce-gtx-1660-super-gtx-1660-super-gaming-x/p/N82E16814137476

https://www.newegg.com/msi-geforce-rtx-3050-rtx-3050-ventus-2x-8g-oc/p/N82E16814137708

[heady turtle]

if you dont have a cpu already, get this bundle https://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails?ItemList=Combo.4486917 , if just upgrading gpu, yeah the ventus is sadly the best option, id really consider the extra 100 for the 6600xt tho, will mop the floor with a 3050 https://www.newegg.com/asrock-radeon-rx-6600-xt-rx6600xt-cld-8g/p/N82E16814930063

[unkempt tulip]

The 6600xt is an overkill for what i want to do with my pc, so the 3050 is better than the 1660 super righr?

[heady turtle]

understandable just remember that means it will last longer, also yes 3050 better

[unkempt tulip]

So what's the cheapest build i can get with a 3050? Would a i3 10100f bottleneck it or anything

Actually let me rephrase this? What's the cheapest build i can get for less than $850? I donnt wanna spend anymore than that.

[heady turtle]

With a 3050.... You could do 10100 but should really be going 10400
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/3nQ6Rv

[unkempt tulip]

Hmmm ok, sorry to bother you so much, but what gpus will you recommend for a 11400f that is under $300

Since im mainly getting the pc for fortnite im trying to get a really good cpu and a decent gpu

[velvet grail]

The prices... Are finally dropping

In Italy too
(Which is pretty strange)

[cosmic bluff]

can't wait to snag a bunch of 1660 for budget pcs again

[velvet grail]

250€ is still a lot but it's ok

[velvet grail]

When prices will drop back to normal I'll make some GPU supplies

I'll buy just a few GPUs so if prices go back up I won't be crying over that horrible prices

[cosmic bluff]

Same

[velvet grail]

I noticed that the coil whine on my gtx1070 reduced in the last 2 months 👌

Perfect

I hope it goes away

[cosmic bluff]

Can hear coil whine when your fans are louder than the whine itself

[heady turtle]

Go 10400 and i created gpu budget they're minimal difference

[keen nacelle]

unless you already have that cpu id go with 10400f, its $130 and is very similar in perf

[white bloom]

What’s the highest temperature you’re comfortable gaming at? I’m having trouble enjoying some games due to anxiety about high temps but my card is only 67 degrees.

I undervolted to .781 and limit fps to 72 and lower some settings.

[keen nacelle]

up to 80 is fine, 90 is where damage can occur

[white bloom]

I have a hard time believing 80 is ok

[keen nacelle]

i game at 75

lol

my card is fine after over a year

[white bloom]

I can’t relax with a temp like that

How long are your gaming sessions

[keen nacelle]

hours

you can do some research if you like

but why ask a question if you dont want to hear the answer

[white bloom]

You’re supposed to have done the research with citations in your answer

[keen nacelle]

thats your job

i speak from experience

as well as experiences of tons of other people here

if you dont like an answer, do the research to disprove it

otherwise accept it and move on

or dont accept it and keep being paranoid

your choice

https://www.makeuseof.com/good-gpu-temp/#:~:text=Optimum GPU gaming temperatures range,if some are rated higher.

https://www.gpumag.com/optimal-gpu-temperature-gaming/

id link more but itd be spam

[white bloom]

I just read both those articles and they just stated optimal temperatures are between 70-85 without explaining how they know that. No experiments to make me believe them or you. How is 85 degrees for ten hours a day the same as 70 one hour a day have the same effect on the card? I need some real data

[vital oriole]

ehh

Temps can be as high as possible as long as they're not right at tjunction

Things won't degrade so much

If it's below tjunction

So 80c is safe, if other stuff like vram doesn't overheat

It depends on the card really

Laptops runs 80+c all day long under load and nothing bad happened to em

[white bloom]

I just have nightmares about loading up a game that has an unskippable intro that jacks my fps up to 5000 and fries my vrm mosfets and I’m out a graphics card

[vital oriole]

That problem comes from bad production

Not the game tbh

It has got nothing to do with temps

[livid idol]

There's only one example I know of where that happens, and that's the poorly coded new world beta that killed 3090s and 3080s that already had bad QC problems

[white bloom]

The vram approaches its limit way before the gpu on these 30 series cards. I’ve seen lots of people replace the thermal pads. Should I worry about vram temps? They say 110 max

[keen nacelle]

Depends on your gpu

If it has gddr6x, yes it gets hot

110c is the danger point but if it's getting over 100 I'd replace pads

And or thermal paste

Gddr6 isn't nearly as hot

My friends 3080 without a repad and terrible case airflow doesn't even hit 110c on vram while mining

Let alone gaming

[livid idol]

Anything below the 3080 will be fine with stock pads, as long as they have some

Nvidia seems to be throttling the GPUs at 100C vram in newer versions of drivers. No concrete evidence, just something I've noticed.

[hasty sphinx]

What is a decent priced gpu that can run a good amount of games at 120ish fps 1080p? High/max settings.

[fading glacier]

if you want modern AAA games at 120fps 1080p max settings you need a 3080

but at that point you should aim at 1440p 100fps instead

[hasty sphinx]

I'm mainly thinking of running Final Fantasy 14. I just need something cheap to hold me over til I get my 6900xt tbh.

Doesn't have to be max. I do have a 1440p 144hz monitor. I was just thinking it'd be easier to run games in 1080p at higher fps.

[livid idol]

Enable Radeon super resolution for a 5500XT and profit

[fading glacier]

cheap approach on high settings for your goal

[hasty sphinx]

I was kinda hoping I could find something around the $200 mark. If I have to play medium settings to get that then thats ok.

[fading glacier]

200 should be in the used market on some old gen cards

[hasty sphinx]

Basically the lesser gpu will be put back in the box and set in my closet when I get the 6900xt

[livid idol]

That's the thing, the newly released RSR (based on the same tech as FSR) works on any game at a driver level so 1440p isn't a stretch. And it works as far back as the rx 500 series.

[hasty sphinx]

Hm ok. I just literally know very little about gpus other than the 6xxx and 3xxx series.

So I just don't know what to get for that mark. I don't know if I want to look at used because I'm afraid I'll get something that was pushed hard and won't be that great. If that makes sense.

[livid idol]

If you're worried about it being used for mining, don't be. It's no more stressful on the card in the long run than standard gaming a few hours a day.

[hasty sphinx]

Ah ok. So. I should look for a 5500xt used for around $200?

Actually.. when I get the 6900xt, could I keep the 5500xt in my build and use it for mining? Like can it mine while I use the other gpu to play games at the same time?

Or is that just not possible?

[livid idol]

That's 100% possible

[hasty sphinx]

Alright. Maybe I'll give mining a look at.

[magic wing]

rsr is 5000 and up

no rx500 series support

also its ehhhh tbh

don look great

and only supports games in exclusive fullscreen mode

[livid idol]

Oh yeah? I thought it was 500 series but I could be wrong going from memory.
It's not any worse than FSR unless you look really closely at the HUD.

The exclusive Fullscreen isn't a big deal for most people

And it's still better than native rendering at the lower resolution no matter how you slice it

[hasty sphinx]

Yall kinda lost me.

[livid idol]

Basically the way the tech works is the GPU renders the frames at a lower resolution, then using AI it converts each frame to a higher resolution. The obvious goal is to improve both frame rate and image quality, but by its very nature it isn't quite as good as native rendering at the higher resolution.

[hasty sphinx]

Ah ok.

[magic wing]

true

rsr is good

but fsr 2.0 is gonna be great

[hasty sphinx]

So.. I apologize for asking this again after it's been answered, but I'm a bit confused. Which card should I go with for around the $200 mark to run mid/high at highish fps either in 1080p or 1440p? If that is possible.

[magic wing]

but yeh

[livid idol]

Keep in mind also, RSR is going to be updated along with FSR 2.0 because they're the same tech.

[magic wing]

AMD plans to broaden rsr to polaris but when, no one knows

[livid idol]

I still say a 5500 xt, since it supports this new upscaling tech that's usable in every game. You can find one for a little over $200 easily.

[hasty sphinx]

Alright cool. Now ill start searching. Thank you very much for your help.

[magic wing]

Well not really tbh. fsr 2.0 will be temporal so will NEED built in game support

it might get slightly better

but not same tech anymore

[livid idol]

Fair enough. It's hard to guess the future anyway.

[hasty sphinx]

Hm i only seem to find them for 400+. But I'll keep looking.

[livid idol]

Wtf

[hasty sphinx]

All of newegg is 600+

[livid idol]

They're like $250 on ebay lol

[hasty sphinx]

Oh. I've never used ebay

[livid idol]

Also check local listings (Facebook, Craigslist, etc) and r/hardwareswap

[hasty sphinx]

No Facebook for me. Craigslist has 1 gpu.. I think, but its like 4 hour drive from me and I have no car. Ill try reddit. Aa far as ebay.. $250+shipping is quite a bit more than I am able to spend.

Craigslist has an asus gtx 1060 for 300

But that is the one that's 4 hours away.

[magic wing]

id go 6500xt over 1060

[hasty sphinx]

Maybe I'll just suffer and use UHD 770 until my taxes come in.

[magic wing]

fsr 2.0 gonna be nice

yeah it wont be too bad

[livid idol]

Prices should continue to fall though the rest of this month. It's been a trend for a little over a month now. If you can wait a little bit and keep checking back every couple days, that's a decent option.

[magic wing]

older titles very playable

[hasty sphinx]

Until I get the gpu I want, I just want to be able to play Final Fantasy 14 and Runeacape 3 at decent settings.

I believe rs3 will be fine with uhd 770. Ff14 however I think will not.

I just can't find any site that has uhd 770 as an option. Sites like canirunit and whatnot.

[livid idol]

It's still pretty new, not too surprising

[hasty sphinx]

Yeah, that's what I figured.

Oh well. Thursday marks the day that my monitor comes in and I can finally put the pc together.

I also have 40 hours PTO saved up so when the gpu comes in... I'll have 11 days off to mess some things up.

[livid idol]

As a rough comparison the uhd 770 should be about equal to a ddr4 version of the gt 1030

[hasty sphinx]

Alright. Thank you for that. I was having trouble finding what it could compare too as like I said I have no idea about gpus

[hasty sphinx]

Darn. 5500xt sold on reddit for $150 4 hours ago.

[livid idol]

Oof

[steady locust]

can I use a mini itx card in SFF PC?

[jovial goblet]

depends if it can fit the dimensions of the sff

best way to do so is to cross reference the size of the card to the dimensions of the sff

[heady turtle]

Although I'd be very surprised if an itx card didn't fit in an itx case, would need to be like extremely flat to not fit

[jovial goblet]

happens quite frequently to me

bought a random sff case and a 1050ti a few years back for a small portable build

did a quick check due to time constraints if it fit and it did (barely), found out when I got home I couldnt close the side panel

[heady turtle]

But was it specifically an itx 1050 ti?

[jovial goblet]

it was the aero itx I think

the case was most likely something really old since I didnt recognize the brand

cant even remember the name

[keen nacelle]

5500xt doesn't really make much mining, not worth the extra heat in your case imo. Maybe 50 cents a day with current profitability, if that

[hasty sphinx]

Ah ok, so no mining then. Is there anything I could really do with it by keeping it in my case with the 6900xt?

[keen nacelle]

Not much that I can really think of, unless you want to run an ungodly amount of displays

[hasty sphinx]

Haha nah. I'm thinking max ill go is 3. If I come across a good deal.. maybe 4.

[keen nacelle]

I just about went to four when that 31.5in 1440p 144hz monitor was on sale for $200

Though more likely would've just replaced one of mine instead of adding it

Still have a 1050p monitor as one of mine lol

[hasty sphinx]

I find 3 is ideal for website design. Could probably use a 4th to have a movie up or something while coding.

[keen nacelle]

I don't really have a use for four

Idet it'd fit on my desk, not comfortably

Itd be on my direct left, where I'd have to swivel my entire body to see it

[hasty sphinx]

I do play runescape which is quite a massive grindy game so I could do that too.

Ah. Id have 3 in a normal fashion and set the 4th above the middle.

[normal hawk]

Imagine having time for an MMO. couldn't be me

[normal hawk]

@sterile parcel https://www.evga.com/products/product.aspx?pn=12G-P5-3657-KR 429$

[keen nacelle]

alr pinged her

[true dew]

TopPercent... are you recommending this evga GPU? I've never bought one. Is that better than a GTX 1660 Super

[livid idol]

The 3060 is a LOT better than 1660S

[keen nacelle]

yes, 1660s loses slightly to a 2060, 3060 is about equal to a 2070

and it also has dlss and rtx

as well as better nvenc

its somewhere around a 30% difference not including those features ^^

[true dew]

my budget is $550. has to work with Oculus Quest 2 via link cable

ASUS, EVGA and Gigabyte all make a GTX 2060... around $500

[heady turtle]

I'd try get a 6700xt/3060 ti if you can increase your budget by selling your 1660 super

[heady turtle]

Yikes

[true dew]

regrets, this is for a new build. how about "EVGA GeForce RTX 3060 XC GAMING, 12G-P5-3657-KR, 12GB GDDR6, Dual-Fan, Metal Backplate"

[livid idol]

The $429 one? That'll be good enough for some VR stuff yeah

Oop it's out of stock now

[true dew]

6700xt is over $650

This is what I can afford "https://pcpartpicker.com/product/y2xbt6/zotac-geforce-gtx-1660-super-6-gb-twin-fan-video-card-zt-t16620f-10l"

[livid idol]

You gotta be fast and a little lucky to get better prices, but at least it's getting easier

[true dew]

my top end... anyone know if this is a good card for VR? "https://pcpartpicker.com/product/KhvdnQ/msi-radeon-rx-6600-xt-8-gb-gaming-x-video-card-rx6600xt-gaming-x-8g"

[keen nacelle]

please dont buy that

https://www.newegg.com/gigabyte-radeon-rx-6600-gv-r66eagle-8gd/p/N82E16814932481 this is atleast better priced

[true dew]

Bacca, I don't know enough to understand... How about this radeon rx 6600?

[keen nacelle]

its about equal to a 6600 iirc

wait

my brain doesnt function

2060

its about equal to a 2060

[heady turtle]

@true dew this is equal yo 3060 and cheaper
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/DgFbt6/asrock-radeon-rx-6600-xt-8-gb-challenger-d-oc-video-card-rx6600xt-cld-8go

[true dew]

I think this is the one I will get. GIGABYTE Radeon RX 6600 EAGLE 8G Graphics Card, WINDFORCE 3X Cooling System, 8GB 128-bit GDDR6, GV-R66EAGLE-8GD Video Card

[keen nacelle]

i did the math earlier, on how much my build cost

pricing everything at msrp, not including tax, i paid about $1100 for my 3060 ti

pain

[heady turtle]

I'd pay the extra bit for the 6600xt personally, with VR you need as much GPU as you can get, vr is way harder to run

[true dew]

how can you share your build Bacca? or can I share mine? PC Parts Picker shows all this is compatible

[livid idol]

There's a link to share above the list on the left

Most of the "incompatible" warnings are easily ignored

[true dew]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/nQR4nt

[livid idol]

Just warnings that can be taken note of but not incompatible

You might need to contact Arctic for a LGA 1700 bracket to fit the cooler, and the tower height is a standard warning they give since they don't check if the case is big enough for the cooler

[keen nacelle]

cooler is pretty overpriced for what it is

and i would not buy that psu

ever

mp33> that ssd

and only a few dollars more

[heady turtle]

Id do this, a lot better
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/cPg3tn

[keen nacelle]

seconded

[hasty sphinx]

5500 xt vs 6500 xt? A couple friends swear up and down that the 6500xt has almost same performance?

[livid idol]

What CPU and motherboard do you have?

That determines if it's throttled

[heady turtle]

Iirc 5500xt is actually better

[hasty sphinx]

12600k

Mag z690 tomahawk

[livid idol]

If you're pcie 3.0 limited yes

[livid idol]

6500XT will be fine in pcie 4.0 mode

Better than 5500XT in your case

[keen nacelle]

i woulda gone 6500xt for my partner if they didnt have a 3400g

instead overpaid for a 1650

[heady turtle]

On avg 6500xt has whopping extra 100 points in timespy lol

Basically the same card but pcie 4.0 mandatory

[heady turtle]

6500xt isn't 75w either tbf

[hasty sphinx]

Alright. I'll check it out.

[keen nacelle]

wait WHAT

i forgot about that

its so bad i assumed it was, now i remember why we made fun of it when it launched

[heady turtle]

Nah it's like 90w or something

It it was 75w I'd forgive it

[keen nacelle]

i remember saying the same thing now

ive paid so little attention to it i forgot about it lmao

[true dew]

I have to go but I'll be back and thank you

[heady grail]

Can someone advise me how to remove a 3080/3090 from the PCI-e slot without cracking the butterfly clip? With these large graphics cards, you can't reach the clip to release it. Am I missing something?

[keen nacelle]

You can always reach the lock

[cosmic bluff]

Try to use your finger to push back the latch and don't worry about it breaking as it takes some good force to unlatch it

[keen nacelle]

I had to take out my ram to do it, and even then it was difficult

But the gpu won't stop you from unlocking it

[heady grail]

My Ram doesn't get in the way

There's just no way to reach the clip

And if I just pull, I crack the clip and I can't find a source for new clips

[keen nacelle]

I assume you have big hands?

[cosmic bluff]

Push the clip forward till it unlatches the gpu and make sure the screws on the pcie bracket on the gpu are undone from the case

[keen nacelle]

If your hands are too big to get to it you'll have to have someone else do it

[heady grail]

I think my hands are average size. But with a 3090 graphics card, the clip is behind the card in the middle and the height of the card is such that there's no way to reach the clip

[cosmic bluff]

What model 3090

[keen nacelle]

Can you not go from the bottom?

[heady grail]

No. I think I may be able to get it from the top ..

It's a FE

[cosmic bluff]

Should be able to reach over the top then with it and push the clip back towards the board

[heady grail]

I can just barely get it

I have an old AMD motherboard (8-9) years old that has a long extension on the butterfly clip and that was when the graphics cards were much smaller

Thanks guys

[keen nacelle]

I thought that sentence was leading somewhere else

Thought you were bouta say your 3090 was on that mobo lol

Was ready to throw hands

[heady grail]

MSI Edge z690

Been slowly building it over the course of the past 2 months

64MB g.skill and intel 12900k

If I can find a cheap place to get win 11 home, I'll fire it up tonight.

First time

[keen nacelle]

If you're running 64mb of ram I think there's an issue

[keen nacelle]

If you've had any windows device before you have windows free

Even if you havent you can download it for free and leave it unactivated

[heady grail]

How is that? I have several window devices ..

I even have an old win 7 ultimate cd/key never used

[keen nacelle]

Just download windows to a USB from one of your other devices

[heady grail]

But I think if I use that I will end up with win pro

[cosmic bluff]

Have they not installed that new q latch for the Z690?

[keen nacelle]

And then boot from the USB on the pc, install windows on the ssd and then sign into your Microsoft account

[heady grail]

Still old clips and they fought me when I asked them to send me a new one

[cosmic bluff]

Oh

[keen nacelle]

Windows boot manager is where you install it from

[heady grail]

So I have a boot image of windows on a flash drive

Do I just plug that in and go?

And I can activate it later?

[keen nacelle]

If you have a Microsoft account

You can just login to it when the pc has windows installed on your first boot

And it will activate windows

Since you've paid for windows before

[heady grail]

Only OEM versions though

Never online versions

[keen nacelle]

Doesn't matter

[heady grail]

Is win 11 monthly subscription? Hope not

[keen nacelle]

I used a version from my pre built for two laptops and a new ssd

[keen nacelle]

No...

No version of windows is

[heady grail]

Excellent. Last think I need is another subscription to forget about and end up paying forever.

[cosmic bluff]

One time purchase for lifetime license and free future upgrades as well

[livid idol]

That's office 365 you're thinking of

[heady grail]

I thought I read somewhere Microsoft was trying to go subscription with windows too

[cosmic bluff]

Just rumors

And Microsoft would lose too many people with that

[livid idol]

Eh that was only a mistake, added into preview builds, for a beta that might not launch at all

[heady grail]

Do you have to create a Microsoft account with windows?

I'd prefer not to create an account

[livid idol]

They want you to think you do but you really don't have to

Just read it carefully, they'll try to get you to sign into a microsoft account at least 4 times during setup lol

[heady grail]

OK. Cool .. didn't know you could skip that somehow.

[livid idol]

Yep, you want the "local account" options, skipping sign in

It'll try to tell you about all the "features" you'll miss out on... that few people need/use

[heady grail]

Cool. Now I just need to get a key.

[livid idol]

You can use this to activate 11 directly, they use the same activation server

[heady grail]

Yeah, but it's ultimate so I think I'll end up with Pro. I want Home.

[livid idol]

You don't have to use the pro features

It's the same as home but a couple extras you have to enable or specifically use

Enterprise is the one that's different, and the N versions

[heady grail]

I know

I just don't want all that network/enterprise junk that's included in Pro on my system. Call it OCD.

[livid idol]

What junk
Most of it is disabled/uninstalled by default

[true dew]

hey, I'm back... you all were helping me earlier... maybe a quick question... the PCPartsPicker speck shared did not have a price for Windows 11 Home 64bit, and it says DVD... the PC I'm building does not have a DVD player... How would I install it?

[livid idol]

With a USB drive

[true dew]

thanks so much

[violet prawn]

is their any vertical gpu mount that fits in a 011 dynamic (options needed) ty

[heady grail]

Hey peeps

When I boot my system for the first time, I don't get any video on my monitor.

How do I troubleshoot? I don't have an on-board GPU.

When I use a lesser GPU (GeForce 770, I get a video) but when I use my 3090 -- nothing.

[keen nacelle]

does the rest of the pc boot?

whats the psu?

[heady grail]

EVGA SuperNOVA 1000

[keen nacelle]

isnt that then

[heady grail]

I think the rest of the PC boots

[keen nacelle]

any friends have a pc you could test the gpu in?

[heady grail]

Hard to tell with no display

The GPU is powered with 2 x (6+2) vga connectors

Ugghh

I hope the GPU isn't DOA

[cosmic bluff]

Try to reseat the 3090 and try a different dp/HDMI port and cable

[heady grail]

How do you reset the GPU?

Oh. Reseat.

Did that once already.

I can try a different HDMI cable/port

[cosmic bluff]

Yeah try that

And does the card at all power on?

Like fans spinning or any sign of life?

[heady grail]

LEDs on card are on and the fans spin

[cosmic bluff]

So might be cable or port

[true dew]

right in the middle of my order, Newegg went out of stock for the video card!!!

[keen nacelle]

F

[tall lichen]

I see BB be havin dem drops

[true dew]

So, why is this not a good deal? EVGA GeForce GTX 1660 SUPER 6 GB SC ULTRA GAMING Video Card

my son is 14 and plays Rust. I'm just old and I run Flight Simulator. We have an Oculus Quest 2 with Link cable but that wasn't our plan for gaming

[cosmic bluff]

It's overpriced

[vital oriole]

At what price?

[true dew]

okay... I hope I wasn't interrupting. 1st day on Discord... my GPU budget was $500 but I suppose that isn't realistic

[cosmic bluff]

500 is getting realistic actually

[true dew]

$360 seems like a good price

[cosmic bluff]

You can get a 3050 for around that price

Or even a 3060 if your lucky through the drops

[vital oriole]

360

yikes

also $500 could still get you a 3060

[true dew]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/CGqb8r is the build I was working from

[vital oriole]

if you're lucky

[true dew]

is that GTX 3060? any other specifics?

[vital oriole]

No, it's an RTX

[true dew]

thx

[vital oriole]

Anything 30 series has RTX name to them

[true dew]

GIGABYTE - NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3060 12GB GDDR6 PCI Express 4.0 Graphics Card $479 is probably a good deal?

[cosmic bluff]

Yeah that's better than the 1660

[true dew]

done, I'll try to buy one unless anyone has any other recommendations

thanks!!!

[vital oriole]

much better

it's an acceptable price

[cosmic bluff]

That's a great deal in today's standards of high priced gpus

[heady grail]

New cable and different port and it worked!

Says Insert boot media

What are first steps on a new build? Insert boot media and install windows or do I go into the bios and do stuff there first?

[true dew]

not available within 250 miles of my home in PA and no shipping avail... I'll keep looking

ASRock Radeon RX 6600 8 GB Challenger D Video Card... $395... somebody tell me why not? It looks like it would work

[vital oriole]

You can set XMP in bios if you want, but you could do it anytime

[vital oriole]

ehh, not too bad

if you have to get it i'd say it's an okay choice

[true dew]

thanks again Foxy..

Gigabyte GeForce RTX 3050 GAMING OC Graphics Card is available also... do I seem needy...? It really is all about me...

[analog badge]

i have been playing battlefield V a lot recently and noticed that my frame rate was relatively low, so i checked task manager and it said that almost none of my gpu was being used while my cpu was pinned at 100%

just wondering if this is intended/common

(rtx 3060 mobile+i5 10300h+16gb ddr4 2933 sodimm)

[livid idol]

When you alt tab out of the game it uses less of the GPU because the game isn't on screen.
Use an overlay like the one that comes with Nvidia driver.

[analog badge]

oh that was recording while i was in game and i tabbed out to look at it mid game

[livid idol]

Hmm I see

[analog badge]

on an external monitor using "display second screen only"

runs even worse on laptop screen

[livid idol]

You could have a CPU or memory bottleneck, try lowering settings a tad

[analog badge]

that is on minimum settings

[keen nacelle]

I'd run a virus scan too

My brother had a cpu miner recently because he's an idiot and doesn't know his way around Google properly

[livid idol]

Yeah could be background task also

[analog badge]

windows defender would work?

[keen nacelle]

Yeah

[keen nacelle]

As well as tons of bloatware, adware, and other random viruses

It was worse than my pc from when I was 12

And this is an 18 yo I'm talking about

[analog badge]

i clear out all of the bloatware i find in task manager

[livid idol]

10300h won't be too good at multitasking. Make sure it's not doing a windows update or backup etc while gaming

[keen nacelle]

Aside from that, the 10300 is on the weak side of cpus. My 10500h struggles a bit in some games

Even with a 3050 ti

[analog badge]

yeah in most games i am at a cpu bottleneck

most of the time when it is not running well "antimalware service executable" is using like 20% and i cant end the task

thats it right now

[livid idol]

Out of curiosity, right click that and tell it to locate the exe

If it's not in the windows folder something might be wrong

[analog badge]

C:\ProgramData\Microsoft\Windows Defender\Platform\4.18.2202.4-0

msmpeng.exe

windows defender says no threats

and it is back down to this

@livid idol is that more normal

[livid idol]

Yeah the reduced numbers are more normal

Didn't you say before that you tried disabling defender?

[analog badge]

no

i never tried to

i jsut wondered if i could

is there anything more i could do to possibly increase framerate

[livid idol]

Try this when you're gaming https://www.maketecheasier.com/disable-smartscreen-filter-windows10/

[keen nacelle]

Probably change the ram, depending on if you have access to bios

And what ram is in there rn

[analog badge]

there is one stock stick and then a faster stick that i got

idk the exact specs

[keen nacelle]

Do you have a link to the one you bought?

[analog badge]

yeah 1 sec

[keen nacelle]

Id guess the stick in there is either 2933c19 or 3200c22

[analog badge]

https://www.scorptec.com.au/product/memory/sodimm/81989-ct8g4sfs832a?gclid=Cj0KCQiA8vSOBhCkARIsAGdp6RSogfrIxotl3TZJNBvwzZxubMp8RSQ2QAhR96OsvVMR0OJ-GTL30lsaAsobEALw_wcB

[keen nacelle]

3200c22 is about the same as 2666c15

[analog badge]

would cpuz tell me about factory stick?

because i saw a ram tab there

[keen nacelle]

I'm not super familiar with it

It'd show the speed you're running at I believe

I dont think it shows timings

You can also just check the speed in task manager

[analog badge]

says clocks pretty sure

if that is clocks

[keen nacelle]

So it's running at 2933c19

Wait

No

What is uncore frequency

[analog badge]

no idea

[keen nacelle]

It looks like the first stick is a 2933c19 jedec stick

The one you bought is 3200c22 jedec

Both mediocre at best

[analog badge]

would getting another one of the crucial sticks be better than leaving it mixed?

[keen nacelle]

Probably not

Theyre about the same, if not the crucial is worse

Though if you have access to bios i wonder if you can oc them

[analog badge]

my laptop's bios is ass

[keen nacelle]

The high speed bad timings jedec kits are very weird

I've no clue how ocing would work on them

Could liquid metal the cpu, if you feel comfortable and have the capability to open the laptop up

Cooler cpu means better perf

Not sure it'd make a huge difference though

[analog badge]

Yeah I'm not that confident

Would even just repasting it be better

[ivory herald]

c21 *. Can't imagine what such terrible overall latency is doing to performance. Jedec sure is scary.

[turbid blaze]

Buy me a 3080

I'm poor lmao

[unkempt tulip]

Same.....

[unkempt tulip]

Who isnt💀

[turbid blaze]

I'm stuck with a 1650 super lmao

[cosmic bluff]

Then save yo money

[last aurora]

wait what those are real?

i thought there were only gpu miners

[analog badge]

so i brought my settings up and the framerate didnt change

[shadow horizon]

is a 550$ RTX 3060 Strix good?

saw one on newegg and wasnt sure, its also a "new" one

[magic wing]

read the rules

especially rule 3

#rules

[plucky plover]

Is it worth it to try and replace thermal pads in a new gpu

[heady turtle]

Depends on the GPU

[plucky plover]

its a zotac 3080 ti

[heady turtle]

Probably, check your memory junction temperature in gaming/mining if you mine - you can check with hwinfo 64

[normal hawk]

EVGA is the one that desperately needs it. And I think MSI. ZOTAC should be okay unless you're overclocking iirc. But you should test it to be safe.

[quartz gull]

It's official

People are selling GPUs at a loss in my area

People are selling 3060tis microcenter sells for $610 for $570 LOL

No one is buying because prices are plumetting which means they keep going down

I picked up a $40 gt 1030 yesterday so that was nice

I had an r5 3600 build with no GPU, makes a good office PC

[little topaz]

Has anyone here seen a RTX 3050 at around 280$? (close to msrp?) or a RTX 3060 close to 350$?

[quartz gull]

3060 yeah

microcenter near me has low model 3060's in stock rn

I think it's the evga black

I have never seen msrp 3050's though LOL

[wispy sentinel]

Yeah, there was a zotac one at the microcenter I went too...

[normal hawk]

3050's at msrp existed for like one week on shuffle, then they vanished or increased in prices like the Asus Phoenix Fan 3050

[little topaz]

im trying to get a msi version since my pc is like all msi except for the m.2, ram, and psu lol

[heady turtle]

There is literally no point

[little topaz]

some thermals do better than others. + i want to keep it simple and not have 5 different brands in the same case lol.

[glossy basalt]

Newegg shuffle vanished in general

[hasty sphinx]

I totally get wanting to have a build with all one vendors parts. Makes for a cool thought.

[heady turtle]

Yeah but msi makes literally the worst and one of the best coolers

It literally doesn't matter what the brands are

[keen nacelle]

i forgot pny existed

[hot folio]

How are the Zotac 3080tis?

[heady turtle]

theyre aight

idk how the mem pads are tho

[magic wing]

What difference does it make as to what brands are in ur pc lol

[wicked hound]

Restricting yourself to one brand means you either overpay for smth or have a high chance of getting a bad product compared to smth else, or both

So be careful about that, I wouldnt recommend doing it

[dreamy dragon]

Kerkie#5913 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

[little topaz]

oh

[little topaz]

Its just simpler. I dont have to use a lot of resources having 5 different programs, and i can just limit myself to 2 programs.

plus the msi gpu's imo look cool, and ik i was talking about thermals but now that i think abt it i think thats if you just run ur pc on 24/7 and never turn it off, or you use blender.

Or perhaps play cod 24/7 on highest settings

[heady turtle]

you dont need any programs bar the drivers - they are only for RGB and you can just use openRGB instead for all your rgb

[unkempt tulip]

U just cant get an msi cpu.........plus if u get a msi gpu it's still gonna be a nividia gpu so ur gonna have to get the same program as all other nvidia gpus bruh

[heady turtle]

also depends, ventus is literally the worst 2 fan card this gen

gaming trio is a top tier one

but going to be overpriced

[heady turtle]

and all cards will perfectly handle this fine

[little topaz]

which brands have the best fans then on the gpu?

[heady turtle]

Depends on model

[little topaz]

im mostly looking for a 3060-3070 but hopefully by july or june i'll be ready to get either of those

[heady turtle]

and it's the actual cooler designs themselves but they're all sufficient - ventus is the worst tho but gaming trio is like a top 3 cooler

[heady turtle]

Yeah i mean model of cooler not gpu

[little topaz]

ah lol

Also do they not make 20 series anymore? or are they just super limited in stock cause I still see companies promoting the 16 series and 10 series and those were way before the 20 series

[heady turtle]

Nope, the old series get discontinued when the new ones come out

Also 16 series is part of the 20 series line

[wicked hound]

So what programs are you thinking about? Currently I can only think about CPU/RAM overclocking software, RGB control, fan control, and GPU overclocking.
-CPU/RAM OC: Should be done in BIOS and not over software, no extra stuff needed.
-RGB control: OpenRGB or SignalRGB can control many different types of devices from various brands. Whether it be peripherals, mobo RGB headers, lighting on mobo itself, GPU lighting, RAM lighting, etc.
-Fan control: FanControl on github is cool, works fairly well.
-GPU OC: Doesnt matter what brand you get will always only need one GPU OC program.

Overall if you get the correct software you should never really need extra programs, unless Im missing something.

[heady turtle]

CPU/Ram OC software is cursed anyway

[wicked hound]

Thus why you use BIOS

[heady turtle]

Yes

Actually with AMD gpus you can do it in drivers

[wicked hound]

Can probs help with other random software that seems to be brand based

[little topaz]

i never really thought of that stuff. I was thinking of just only using whats given to me. So like for example I have a hyperx mic so i'd download the software for that, + i have to have the corsair software for my keyboard, and soon the msi software for the liquid cooler, and etc. But maybe it wont be a big problem with the 12600k but i like to keep things below a certain criteria.

[wicked hound]

What does HyperX software do for you? Should only need the drivers and then use any audio based program you want, unless Im missing smth

[heady turtle]

Usually those softwares are mediocre or just straight up not needed

[heady turtle]

I'm assuming something similar to Logitech g hub kind of style

[little topaz]

mostly for rgb uses, plus its just easier to click the update button from there for my microphone instead of having to look up xx.xxx.xx model number and etc lol

[wicked hound]

Well we already covered RGB, as for updating do you mean firmware/drivers?

[little topaz]

yep. I just dont want to go on like the official website and search through hundreds of drivers just for like the msi cooler when i could just go in the software and update it through there, but at the same time I dont want to use a lot of resources hence why im trying to keep it simple and use 1-2 brands in my case

[heady turtle]

I mean once you got one you don't really need to update that, and also just disable it on start-up and start it sometimes if you want to update it every so often

[heady turtle]

What? You can't have firmware or drivers for an aio

[little topaz]

i saw a firmware on youtube for the cooler with the 2.4in IPS display.

which is the one im getting and i would assume it will have updatres

[heady turtle]

Right it will have a software sure... But its again a once off use

Also please whatever you do don't buy an MSI case

[wicked hound]

For things like that you dont have to update unless its broken.

[wicked hound]

Also worth noting if all you're doing is checking software updates, can easily just make it so software runs manually and do once per month checks. As with the point stated above, you probably dont really need to do anything more then once per year checks

[little topaz]

lol i already got one. Im not big on cases tbh. I just like that the 100r has 3 fans and has magnetic mesh and i can just customize it to my liking. I haven't been able to upgrade my pc since 2017 so having to deal with high thermals rn is too much of a hassle, but have a few more fans in a better and bigger case and can drop my thermals by a lot is more than enough.

I was initially going to get the lian li o11 dynamic

[heady turtle]

Do yourself a favor and return literally no case is wayy better than any of msi's cases

[little topaz]

dope. Thanks xD

[heady turtle]

Msi cannot make cases for the life of them

[little topaz]

whats wrong with the velox 100r

[heady turtle]

Oh the 100r has some mesh

Still agreessively mediocre

Still pretty bad thermals and meh build quality iirc

Not the exact case but another mesh msi case https://youtu.be/TpTrrIsMGXU

[little topaz]

Well its fine either way to me. I just want there to be enough air in there for what i currently have. + my gf's case is undoubtedly worse than the 100r case from what i've seen. There's like no mesh, its a full tower case and like its just tempered glass all around so it quite literally looks like a vacuum chamber and she has the best components in there lol so im not stressing much abt it

[heady turtle]

[little topaz]

Yeah, but thanks for teachin me a lot lol. Im not much of wanting to be the best, but i want my stuff to just last me a few years or more and be able to get some good performance. Even just like my pc running 2x faster will make me happy but ik with my new buld it'll probably be at least 5x faster

now that i think about it... i dont think my velox 100r case came with screws but i'll double check lmfaoo

[shy wave]

does anyone know what the msi 3080 gaming z trio 12gb retails at?

[vital oriole]

3080 has $700 msrp afaik

[shy wave]

ty

[green harness]

That's not the msrp for a 12gb 3080

[vital oriole]

hm the extra vram costs more, i guess

[green harness]

12gb 3080s start at 1249

[vital oriole]

lol

new, inflated msrp be like

[green harness]

You probably shouldn't tell someone an "msrp" if you don't know what it is

[vital oriole]

ah well

[shy wave]

is $1300 usd for an msi 12gb 3080 gaming z trio a good price?

[vital oriole]

i just went with 10 gigs version's

[green harness]

Some MSRPs: https://www.microcenter.com/search/search_results.aspx?N=0+4294818741&Ntt=msi 3080 12gb&prt=&sku_list=&Ntx=mode MatchPartial&Ntk=all&Nr=

[shy wave]

ty

[slate galleon]

In my hands right now I have a MSI dual fan 3070. I bought it because I wasn’t sure when the next chance to buy a 30 series would come. Is this model worth it, or should I return and wait for another card. I am running a 5800x cpu, and I was looking specifically for 3080, and 3070 ti FEs.

[vital oriole]

eh

it shouldn't be a problem

[slate galleon]

I’m worried about the eh

[normal hawk]

The 85W TDP 3050 ti in laptops is the better one right?

[vital oriole]

yep

[normal hawk]

is 769$ a good price with that and a 5600H? >.> 8gbs ram but you can get a 16gb kit.

[lone pond]

Yes decent price

[normal hawk]

Laptop markets probably gonna go a bit wild cause 6000 series laptops should be coming in Q2 huh?

[lone pond]

Yes

[vital oriole]

ehh

ntb

[lone pond]

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Lenovo-IdeaPad-Gaming-3-15-6-120Hz-Ryzen-5-5600H-8GB-RAM-512GB-SSD-RTX-3050-Ti-/124977213779?mkcid=16&mkevt=1&_trksid=p2349624.m46890.l49286&mkrid=711-127632-2357-0 is this the one

[normal hawk]

cheaper there than on amazon. cool

[livid idol]

Is it the Ventus 2x?
If yes you just won't have a lot of room for overclocking
If not you're fine

[brave violet]

BB has cards too. Still doing the every two weeks drops

[slate galleon]

yes

[livid idol]

You're probably fine unless you're using a case with no airflow like the H510

[slate galleon]

would it be better suited for my system (and wallet) if i wait until i can get a FE 3070 ti or FE 3080?

hypothetically for the price of this 3070, i could get a FE 3080

[livid idol]

If you get a chance at the FE 3080 absolutely do it. They're extremely hard to find, Nvidia isn't really making more.

[heady turtle]

Too high like above 3080 ti msrp, just get a 6900xt if you don't care about RT

[magic wing]

fsr 2.0 should bring amd cards a lot closer to nvidia dlss wise

[quartz gull]

Huh

I watch YouTube as I play competitive games (mainly documentaries) and I've noticed a 5-15% performance improvement since I started using my igpu for second monitor (hardware acceleration on)

It's actually really cool

Barely has impacted CPU temps too

[heady turtle]

Sounds about right tbh

[shy wave]

what would be my options if i wanted to stay nvidia?

[heady turtle]

Yeah but you'll pay more for less

[shy wave]

i see

[heady turtle]

And nvidias only advantages are RT, dlss(fsr 2.0 will compete now), a slightly better encoder and rtx voice

Although there was a 3080 Msi ventus in stock for $1040 yesterday

Which is aight

[normal hawk]

And CUDA related productivity :p

[heady turtle]

True dat basically useless to most users tho

[normal hawk]

I mean so is RT and DLSS

[heady turtle]

Rt? Yes, dlsss. No

[magic wing]

only RT

[heady turtle]

Dlss is good

[magic wing]

dlss very useful

[normal hawk]

Dlss is good. But it's not available in a lot of games

[heady turtle]

Yeah but it's definitely something to consider, it's in a decent amount of games

[orchid totem]

ehhh

[vital oriole]

lol

317 eh's

[heady turtle]

Lol

[steady horizon]

So if I went the AMD route, what is the comparable for say the rtx 3060

[normal hawk]

6600 XT beats it by a small amount I think

Or decently but loses to the 3060 ti

[steady horizon]

I've heard in the past that nvidia cards have more longevity over amd, is that true? Honestly its been like 10 years or so since I owned an amd card and was looking at giving it another try

There is a rx 6600xt asrock on newegg for 469.00. I wonder if these prices are gonna continue to drop. Truthfully I'm trying to wait it out as long as I can but wondering when these prices are going to plateau

[heady turtle]

Here's a comparison chart
https://imgur.com/a/WZBresN

[heady turtle]

https://tenor.com/view/8ball-bart-simpson-shaking-shake-magic-ball-gif-17725278

That's w nice price tho

[quartz gull]

I didn't realize 1080p decode was sucking up so much 3070 juice tbh. I thought it'd be like a 2% difference or something

[heady turtle]

Well ¯_(ツ)_/¯

[static haven]

Hey can someone tell me what a fair selling price for an RX 5700XT would be? Tag me in your response please, I won’t be on my phone

[keen nacelle]

Check ebay sold prices

[shy wave]

what does nvidia have that amd does not have in terms of their gpus?

[heady turtle]

@shy wave

[shy wave]

i see

thanks!

[heady turtle]

Np

[unkempt tulip]

Where would the 6500xt be?

[keen nacelle]

in the trash

[heady turtle]

Assuming pcie gen 4, basics 5500xt

If pcie 3

In the trash

[unkempt tulip]

Lmao

[unkempt tulip]

Yeah gen 4

[shy wave]

should i be looking at any specific company when looking at amd gpus

[heady turtle]

[hasty sphinx]

I always see ya post this, but then I see that sometimes you guys say that one or two brands are crap compared to others? If I were to avoid a certain brand for gpus, which one(s) would that be?

I think it has something to do with oc ability and cooling?

[heady turtle]

ehh for GPUs there is no solid avoid, for example, MSI ventus unless its the cheapest buy a good bit would be an avoid but their gaming x line up is a top tier card, its to do with their coolers and power limits

[hasty sphinx]

Ah ok. Thank you for clearing up my confusion.

Its something I've been thinking about the past couple weeks.

[heady turtle]

np :)

[normal hawk]

Every brand has meh models. And I think good models. ZOTAC has the Amp Holo, MSI has gaming x trio and suprim. Gigabyte has Aorus, Asus has strix, EVGA has Kingpin and FTW3 ultra. What else is there? 😳

[green harness]

HOF cards from Galax iirc

[heady turtle]

Nitro+ for sapphire, oc formula for asrock, devil or something for powercolour

[normal hawk]

Red Devil/Liquid Devil ye

[ember eagle]

I’m trading a 1080 for a 2080S how much cash should I add on top?

[green harness]

As little as you can 😆

[ember eagle]

I was tryna todo 150 🤣

[green harness]

I'd probably check very recent used sales on like eBay or something to see what the going rates are

[ember eagle]

I’m in California so it’s kinda weird

Redit, eBay and other resale apps are all so different it’s kinda hard to pinpoint a good price

[keen nacelle]

used 1050 ti for 115 after shipping or brand new 1650 g6 (idk how its new but its from amazon directly) for 220, i think the answer is pretty obvious but want another opinion

[cosmic bluff]

So increasing the positive pressure allowed greater cooling towards the whole pc and when gaming the gpu doesn't exceed 60°C

[ivory herald]

I'd prefer less, but I'd do it. 150 out of pocket is still pretty decent considering how 10 series value has actually tanked a bit in the past few months.

[timid orbit]

any cool gpu holders that yall will recommend? or just get a basic one?

[heady turtle]

Like a support bracket?

[ashen canyon]

Geez I wonder why

[keen nacelle]

id love a $130 6500xt

[lone pond]

3050 or 3060

[keen nacelle]

3060 is much better

3060 is about equal to a 2070, 3050 slightly loses to 2060

[lone pond]

why is there even a 3050 if the 2060 beats it out

[keen nacelle]

with that logic, why is there a 3060 when a 2070 super beats it

or 3060 ti when 2080 ti beats it

[lone pond]

fair point

gtg

@keen nacelle what should i buy i was planning on getting a 3050 for my build but should I get a 2060 because it is cheaper but better

[keen nacelle]

what cpu do you have

and whats the budget for the total build, and what parts have you bought already

[lone pond]

Ryzen 7 3700x

no parts have been bought

[keen nacelle]

whats the budget

dont buy a 3700x new please

[lone pond]

why

[keen nacelle]

5600x beats it and is cheaper most of the time

let alone 12400f

12400f is $200 and is equal to a 5600x

[lone pond]

5600x beats it?

[keen nacelle]

intel is ahead of amd at the moment

whats your budget for the build

ill make a build list rq

[lone pond]

1400-1800

depends

[keen nacelle]

you can get a 3070 in that easily

alright one minute

[lone pond]

its not for gaming its a hybrid workstation and gaming pc

[keen nacelle]

ah alright

[lone pond]

im using pcpartspicker to make sure everything is compatible

[keen nacelle]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/6tCtpH

[dreamy dragon]

Tree_on_caffine, that command is disabled in this channel.

[keen nacelle]

and thats on the low end of your budget

can switch out gpu for a better one if you want

if you want a 3080, change the power supply to a bitfenix whisper m 850

[lone pond]

thanks

[keen nacelle]

it might be fine on 750 but id spend the extra 25 for the safety

[lone pond]

where is the os

sry gtg

[keen nacelle]

windows is free to use, as long as you dont mind a watermark

and if you have a windows device you already have full access to windows

[lone pond]

no a mac

[lone pond]

You can’t install Mac OS on a pc

i know

K

@keen nacelle I only have ever bought a prebuilt pc before so i don't know a lot. Windows would come preinstalled?

[lone pond]

No

[keen nacelle]

in your pre built pcs

[lone pond]

It won’t

[keen nacelle]

were any of them windows

[lone pond]

no alienware

[keen nacelle]

...

those run on windows

[lone pond]

That’s windows then

oh im tired and away so im blanking on a lot of stuff

[keen nacelle]

when you get your new pc you can log into your microsoft account after installing windows from a usb

and your windows license will transfer

[lone pond]

Or

You can download it on a usb

And buy a key for 20 bucks

That’s the easiest way

ah

of course

thanks

https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/windows-hardware/manufacture/desktop/install-windows-from-a-usb-flash-drive

windows 10 32 bit or 64

[magic wing]

64

[lone pond]

k

[lone pond]

this is a browser window

[magic wing]

yeah

that be what happens when you click a link

it opens in ur browser

[lone pond]

https://www.microsoft.com/software-download/windows10

ill just use a flash drive

Dude

That’s how you use a flash drive

You have to use a flash drive regardless

[keen nacelle]

Yooo

I got a 6800xt from amd

[lone pond]

NICE

@keen nacelle is that what you were wanting

[keen nacelle]

That or 3080

[lone pond]

Nice man

[keen nacelle]

I'm more than happy with a 6800xt

Now I just have to make sure my mom doesn't murder me

[lone pond]

Lol

I’m broke

Af

Cant buy anything after I built my pc

Then I have biking season witch starts today

[keen nacelle]

I'm not going to be buying anything for months

[lone pond]

So I have to pay for my bike repairs

[lone pond]

Nice

Keep mining on the 3060ti

Or are you gonna sell it

@keen nacelle

[keen nacelle]

Gonna sell it prolly

[lone pond]

Noice