graphics-cards

[keen nacelle]

AND ITS A SPONSOR

[frigid cosmos]

do u think the lowest 400 series card will work on a 650w psu ?

[keen nacelle]

Easily

Wait

[vital oriole]

what 400 series

[keen nacelle]

Did you mean 4000?

[frigid cosmos]

yee

[keen nacelle]

Depends on cpu

[frigid cosmos]

mb

[vital oriole]

oh well it should

[frigid cosmos]

12600k

[keen nacelle]

I think 4060 ti definitely

[vital oriole]

but it would come out in like 2023

[keen nacelle]

Ehh

[vital oriole]

lol

[keen nacelle]

Would be pushing it a bit

[vital oriole]

cause 3060 took one year after release of 30 series to come out

and we don't even have info about the cards yet

[frigid cosmos]

i can wait like 1-1.5 years

[keen nacelle]

Let alone 4050 lol

[frigid cosmos]

i got a used 2070super rn but for future im asking

[keen nacelle]

Look at this scam https://hotayrich.shop/?fbclid=IwAR3oScNY3qIzct-ElHrM8aZsd1SRKCuMwqS5xNBXg-Vd8-3XVdkXlD-pNV0

Hilarious

[frigid cosmos]

like will a 4060 or 4060ti work on my 12600k 650psu

[vital oriole]

oof

[keen nacelle]

And its a marketplace sponsor

[vital oriole]

well we can't really make a prediction tbh

[keen nacelle]

We can't say for sure

[vital oriole]

but i doubt they'd be much more hungry

[keen nacelle]

Amd 7000 series is supposed to be more power efficient than lovelace

[vital oriole]

it's just a speculation from me really

[keen nacelle]

Judging by leaks

[jaunty mango]

Probably wanna upgrade to a 850 or something in that range

[keen nacelle]

But we can't say anything fs

[fading glacier]

yeah, assuming the 40 series launch this year that family will start at 4080-4070, a 4060 and the ti-super variants could be on mid 2023

nvidia will milk the big bois first

[heady turtle]

it will yeah, probably something like that 4080 +4070 then maybe 4060 ti then maybe 4060

then 4080 ti?

[fading glacier]

still waiting for the 3090 tie

😛

[heady turtle]

lol dont

[fading glacier]

for the memes i mean

im happy with my 550usd 3060ti

ill probably wait for the 50 series and beyond for an upgrade

[heady turtle]

ohh yeah lmao

[alpine kestrel]

how u get it for 550usd?

[fading glacier]

well 560 actually

30 series combo on newegg

was a lucky notification to my email about a combo back in stock

[fallen notch]

Even if you dropped the psu in the can, that is still a good price for the gpu

[vital oriole]

the psu is still a good unit tho

and fits with the gpu

[fallen notch]

Yeah, not saying that, it is a great psu, just saying it would still be a good price

[charred raft]

Yea 750w is a good size for the gpu

[heady turtle]

That's nice

[sturdy charm]

You guys, I'm new here and I want to build a pc. I've never done this before and I've always been playing on a laptop. For my pc, what is the first part I should look for, the cpu?

[rustic pulsar]

Probably gpu and build around that

[sturdy charm]

yeah, i thought so

i really have no idea were to start

what are good gpu that i could buy

[keen nacelle]

whats your budget

for the whole pc

[sturdy charm]

my budget for the whole pc is 500$ mor or less

[magic wing]

start with budget

[keen nacelle]

mmm

[magic wing]

set around 40% for the gpu

[sturdy charm]

i also thought about buying a really cheap pc and then make it better

i guess just game and some school stuff, nothing toooooo crazy

is that a website?

ok

[keen nacelle]

nothing as cheap as 500

[sturdy charm]

np

[sturdy charm]

nothing 😦

[keen nacelle]

i lost my glasses

:p

[keen nacelle]

no

[sturdy charm]

ok

[keen nacelle]

your best bet is buying an optiplex and adding a gpu or smthn like that

ehh

not exactly easy with a 5600g, and 12100 isnt in stock anywhere atm

[sturdy charm]

one more thing

[keen nacelle]

10400 is maybe possible

[keen nacelle]

what are you hoping to use the pc for?

[sturdy charm]

like some little gaming (dont mind if its on low fps like 120 or even 60) and some school stuff

[keen nacelle]

what games

[sturdy charm]

fortnite, lol, valorant

[keen nacelle]

not going to be super easy doing a new build for that

i did a quick one, keep in mind this is all new parts https://pcpartpicker.com/list/Y3WJ8r

[sturdy charm]

dont really know, its basic, its hp and it cost abou 400$ i think

[keen nacelle]

could maybe get a bit cheaper on the psu

10100 maybe and throw a 1030 or smthn in

[sturdy charm]

is it like good or are you just trolling (i have no idea about pcs)

[keen nacelle]

im doing the best you can for your budget, but honestly if you hope to game id either increase budget or buy most parts used

$700 would be doable

[livid idol]

Bacca is sus but not a troll

[sturdy charm]

can i put a cheap grafic card in there, like 100$ or smth

[keen nacelle]

pain

[keen nacelle]

yes, but if you want to run fn it might get a bit difficult

maybe a 770 used

if youre going to add a gpu

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/JnNYTn this instead

bit cheaper cpu

[sturdy charm]

on waht cuality would i be running it?

[keen nacelle]

low

are you in the US?

[sturdy charm]

FPS?

[keen nacelle]

shoulve asked that

[sturdy charm]

Nah im in spain 🙂

[keen nacelle]

mmm

that makes it even harder

[sturdy charm]

shipping is no problem (or i hope so)

[magic wing]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/WP7sZw
Hm?

[keen nacelle]

it definitely is

[keen nacelle]

theyre i spain

[heady turtle]

Rmx to expensive for 650w

[magic wing]

well

crap

[keen nacelle]

nice build tho

[magic wing]

im going to bed

[heady turtle]

Good night

[keen nacelle]

lol

gn

[magic wing]

Goodnight

[heady turtle]

Spanish list for what use case and budget is needed?

[keen nacelle]

light gaming

budget is 500

:P

[heady turtle]

Lemme look

[sturdy charm]

we could go up budget to 6oo although i prefer not

[keen nacelle]

600 in what currency

[sturdy charm]

euros

like 570 dollars

[keen nacelle]

a lot of people auto translate it to usd

wanted to make sure

[sturdy charm]

its almost the same

very little difference

yeah thats right

true

just give me some ideas for cpu and gpu so i can loke for those in spain or europe

whos pato

[heady turtle]

gimme a sec

[sturdy charm]

k now i know

[keen nacelle]

pato is the local smart guy

[sturdy charm]

ohh ok 😄

spain?

yeah

ok

[heady turtle]

irish

[sturdy charm]

so what do you recommend me pato?

[heady turtle]

im seeing what there is gimme a sec

[sturdy charm]

budget 500-600$

yeah take your time

[heady turtle]

dollar or euro?

[sturdy charm]

euro

like more or less the same in dollar

i already got keeb and mouse so no need for that

[heady turtle]

dani are there any shops that sell prebuilts in spain?

[sturdy charm]

yeah, i guess media markt and that stuff

[heady turtle]

might be able to get a cheap prebuilt with an actual gpu

[sturdy charm]

dont know

k

ill loke for that

[heady turtle]

okey media markt is full of junk, anywhere else?

[keen nacelle]

best ive found so far... https://www.coolmod.com/coolpc-pbmsi-i/

[heady turtle]

thats wayyyyyyyy out of budget and awful

[keen nacelle]

i know

thats why the elipses

[sturdy charm]

yeah i know

thats why i was searching over here

[keen nacelle]

700 euro 1650 1600af build

gross

[heady turtle]

yeah but is there any other shops?

[keen nacelle]

im looking for some pato

[sturdy charm]

its 800, cannot afford that

fnac maybe. althoug i dont think there will be anything

[heady turtle]

im just looking for shops where i can look tbh i dont know any of the spanish shops

okay

[sturdy charm]

@keen nacelle , the links you send me about your builds, i can buy them on amzon separately. should i do that and then just install a gpu?

[heady turtle]

yeah no look there, building it yourself it is

[sturdy charm]

yeah

what i thought

i also prefer that

@keen nacelle ?

[heady turtle]

yeah usually at this low of a budget tho youre better off prebuilt

hold on

ill make you a lsit

[keen nacelle]

pato knows more than i do

you dont need to ask me if hes here

[sturdy charm]

ok sorry

my bad

[keen nacelle]

its fine

[heady turtle]

do you need wifi dani?

[sturdy charm]

what do you mean

like wifi cable?

[heady turtle]

do you need the pc to have wifi?

[sturdy charm]

yeah would be good

[keen nacelle]

does it need built in wifi or do you have ethernet

[sturdy charm]

i got like a router if you mean that

in my house

[heady turtle]

no i mean like do you need it to connect to wifi lol

[sturdy charm]

yeah

to go into the internet

[heady turtle]

or would you be using a wire to connect to the internet - is what i meant

[jaunty mango]

Can you run a cable to your pc from your router

[sturdy charm]

no

[jaunty mango]

Ok

WiFi it is

[sturdy charm]

i need it wireless connection

[jaunty mango]

Yep

[sturdy charm]

sorry i didn't got you

[jaunty mango]

If you can get a cable to your pc than that would be optimal cause faster connection and you save money on pc by not needing WiFi

[sturdy charm]

yeah

but the router is in the living room and i'm in my beedroom

[jaunty mango]

Yea

Same

[sturdy charm]

so theres no option for having a cable across the house

[jaunty mango]

Yea

[sturdy charm]

so bacca sent me this link and i can buy it through amazon, should i do that and just include a gpu?

[keen nacelle]

i dont think you linked the right thing

[sturdy charm]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/JnNYTn

this one?

so should i do that bacca

[keen nacelle]

probably not

[sturdy charm]

including a gpu to that set

why?

[keen nacelle]

also dont buy a gpu off amazon

markets are different per country

[sturdy charm]

yeah

so no gpu in that prebuild

?

[keen nacelle]

no

[sturdy charm]

k

[keen nacelle]

let pato make a new list

market is diff per country

[sturdy charm]

yeah

[heady turtle]

@sturdy charm if you can do 630 https://es.pcpartpicker.com/list/r2ZXPX

[sturdy charm]

it has a grafic card, right?

[keen nacelle]

yeah

[heady turtle]

it does indeed, the extra 30€ gets you a way better graphics card

[sturdy charm]

yeah, i prefer

can i get core4

i heard thats way better

??

[keen nacelle]

core 4

what is that

[heady turtle]

4 cores?

[jaunty mango]

The system does have 4 cores

[heady turtle]

the cpu has 4 cores

that is by far the best gaming pc with wifi you can do for 630€ in spain

[sturdy charm]

maybe im dumb but what means the core i3

[keen nacelle]

its a four core cpu

[heady turtle]

nothing really

[sturdy charm]

ok

[heady turtle]

i3 is just part of the model

[keen nacelle]

it is just the name of that processor

well, part of it

i gtg

thanks pato

[heady turtle]

bye

[sturdy charm]

bye and thanks

[heady turtle]

youre welcome

[jaunty mango]

It’s just a number to signify where it is in the product line

[sturdy charm]

so that pc is good?

[jaunty mango]

Ye

[heady turtle]

its decent, best you can do for 630 in spain

[sturdy charm]

yeah

would i be able to add more things in the future

like a cooler or something similar

[heady turtle]

yes, all standard parts

[sturdy charm]

or would i need a bigger case

[heady turtle]

nope case is normal matx size, some things might fit but if you use es.pcpartpicker.com/list and put your parts, it will filter out anything incompatible with your pc

[sturdy charm]

k

[analog pendant]

Hello I have a question can I dm someone from here

[jaunty mango]

What kinda question?

[sturdy charm]

i would buy everything saparately, right?

[jaunty mango]

Yea

[sturdy charm]

kk

[heady turtle]

just ask here

[analog pendant]

I don't if it's safe to ask here without a ban

[heady turtle]

then you shouldnt be asking it anyway, go read the #rules first

[jaunty mango]

Also pato what kinda gpu could I get with max budget of $350 usd

[heady turtle]

technically a 3060

[jaunty mango]

Realistically what could I get

[heady turtle]

like in stock rn?

[jaunty mango]

Yea

Just what ever

[heady turtle]

lemme see

[analog pendant]

Ok then is it safe to shop at newegg rn iam trying to get the Asus rtx 3090 and it in stock but the whole drama that happened is kind of stoping me from buying it what should I do?

[heady turtle]

closest thing would be 3050 at 390 probs, prices are dropping a bit tho https://pcpartpicker.com/mr/newegg/Q9pzK8

[sturdy charm]

pato, the tower you put on the list you showed me, it sais mini tower, is that correct?

[heady turtle]

yeah its perfectly fine, the only issues have been with returning and they have apologized and opened an email for things like what happened and are changing practices in their comany

[jaunty mango]

I’ve been looking on eBay I could possibly get as high as an rtx 2060 but I gotta shop around more

[heady turtle]

yeah its micro atx so they might say mini tower, but if you jut hit the buy buttons on the list it will bring you to the right page

[sturdy charm]

ok, because i want to try to get a cheaper one, to ut the whole preice a bil lower

[heady turtle]

uhhh thats not really gonna happen that was the cheapest case i could find lol

technically you could do without a case and just short the power pins with a piece of metal but its worth the 30€

[sturdy charm]

yeah, ok

how can i get windows eleven on that bundle

[jaunty mango]

I mean you can just download it and not activate it

[sturdy charm]

yeah

ok

so its easy

nothing strange

[jaunty mango]

Yea

[heady turtle]

Just dont activate windows, which is free just deal with a watermark, also I'd go windows 10 personally

[sturdy charm]

k

[analog pendant]

Ok then iam putting my trust in you

[heady turtle]

also btw if youre just gaming no point going 3090, id go 6900xt or 3080 ti if youre adamant on ray tracing and you would pocket a lotttttt of money

[cosmic bluff]

I can agree with this that a 3090 isn't a card meant for gaming

[analog pendant]

Oh don't worry I have the money I been waiting to get that 3090 for so long

[heady turtle]

yeah but theres like 1% perf difference and the 6900xt is actually best for raw perf

https://www.newegg.com/sapphire-radeon-rx-6900-xt-11308-03-20g/p/N82E16814202403

this is way cheaper and just as good (in some cases) or better

[analog pendant]

What about the Asus rtx 3080ti then @heady turtle

[heady turtle]

6900xt is better in everything but ray tracing

[analog pendant]

Yeah I want ray tracing tho

[heady turtle]

https://www.newegg.com/msi-geforce-rtx-3080-ti-rtx-3080-ti-gaming-x-trio-12g/p/N82E16814137650 then this

[analog pendant]

Ok thank you for helping me but I have decided on the 3090 I just wanted and waited for so long for it to be in stock Iam going to use it for work too

[heady turtle]

mkay

[brave violet]

@analog pendant For the price of asus strix 3080ti is so close to 3090 I rather get a 3090. Unless you buy a 3080ti

[normal hawk]

shame

How much are you paying for the 3090?

https://www.newegg.com/evga-geforce-rtx-3080-ti-12g-p5-3955-kr/p/N82E16814487548 1549 for a 3080 ti @analog pendant

[normal hawk]

Pato why'd you suggest the MSI Gaming Trio? Is it good?

we need a Price > Model emote like the

[normal hawk]

I love them

[heady turtle]

Yes and best priced good model one

[heady turtle]

Gaming trio is comparable to strix

[normal hawk]

not really worth 200$ over other alternatives to most people though is it? lol And its not pretty like the strix

[heady turtle]

Ehh for a 3080 ti xc3 is a bit of a weak cooler, and yes it is pretty

[normal hawk]

Woah is that a 2.5 slot cooler or 3 slot cooler on the gaming trio.

I know the I/O shield is 2 slot. but does the cooler extend a full slot out more than it?

[heady turtle]

Can't recall how many but it's good cooler

[normal hawk]

Well I mean anything is better than the Ventus 3x

I'm just waiting for them to vertically stack a card, like imagine a phoenix fan but with like a 6 slot heatsink on it.

[heady turtle]

It's a top 3 cooler I'd say

[normal hawk]

What are the other two?

[heady turtle]

Aorus master + strix

[normal hawk]

Aorus master is better than the Extreme?

[heady turtle]

Is the aorus extreme?

[normal hawk]

the extreme is a 4 slot on the 3090. and is a better card o.O

Aorus Extreme is the higher end one.

[heady turtle]

The thick aorus one

Thought it was master

[normal hawk]

Extreme > Master > Elite(Motherboard only I believe)

The Extreme AIO one sucks though

Said it so you don't have to Fal'cie

I see you typing

[livid idol]

(As long as it's a triple 8 pin xtreme it's good but the waterforce isn't)

[normal hawk]

Oh, that makes sense. the Aorus Master and Aorus Extreme use the same cooler

A 4 slot Cooler on a 3080? 😮 I wonder how cool it stays

[heady turtle]

There enlies my confusion

[heady turtle]

Pretty sure they use the same cooler for the 3060 ti

[normal hawk]

I don't think so. That one has different RGB on the fans and no screen iirc

Oh I see. The 3070 Master has a smaller cooler. The 3060 Ti, doesn't have Master or Extreme it has Elite

[heady turtle]

https://www.techpowerup.com/gpu-specs/gigabyte-aorus-rtx-3060-ti-master.b8445

Shhh

[heady turtle]

Only 3 slot :(

[normal hawk]

Ah then the 3070 and 3060 ti have the same one. this is the 3070

I'll find a way to adapt a Dark Pro 4 onto a 2060 Phoenix fan. so I can have a ~10 slot cooler.

Can only be in an open case.

wait why are you getting rid of your 3080 ti?

😂 oh right you did get the 3090

you could always send the 3080 ti my way for fwee

Which 3080 ti do you have?

Why are you using a Node 202

tsk tsk

I carried a ST-SG12 onto a plane. you can carry anything with the right mindset

I mean yea the SG12 was ugly. I just mean it doesn't have to be small

Do you have experience with taking pc's onto planes? its easy

The only size that matters is that it fits in the overhead

Bleh.

🤮

Get a 3060 Phoenix fan (:

Can fit in anything

[cosmic bluff]

I'll take that 3080ti with cash and ya can run sli 3090 lol

No SLI? Lol

[normal hawk]

Did you make a post about it on reddit?

[livid idol]

Lies
Everyone needs sli

[cosmic bluff]

SLIde to the SLI

[normal hawk]

ew 3060 ti's are still 699 on newegg

[livid idol]

So far from the leaks it's looking like AMD will be winning the next gen big time

[normal hawk]

Wait, why is the Ventus 2x 769$ but the Ventus 3x is 659? I mean, both coolers are kinda bad. but why is the 2x over a hundred dollars more?

[livid idol]

Almost double performance, like nvidia is claiming, but also at only 450W max instead of 600W and much improved RT performance

[wicked hound]

600w is unlikely tbf

People are only saying that cuz 12P spec

[livid idol]

Not from what I've seen. AIBs are saying they're preparing to cool that much on air.

[brisk flame]

4 slot card

simple

[normal hawk]

Aorus gots it down already ;D

oh no. 5 slot Aorus watch it'll happen

[wicked hound]

Depends on AIB. You have 520w 3090s despite spec being 375w

[livid idol]

Besides, the ranges for top models are looking like 350-450W on AMD compared to 450W-600W nvidia

[normal hawk]

We'll get into perpendicular wind tunnels to cool the cards like how Data Center are supposed to be.

[livid idol]

Blower cards with delta fans

[wicked hound]

I'd say Nvidia spec is 450w - 500w, closer to 450w most likely

Maybe next Nvidia Lapsus$ leak will give beta vBIOSes for FE, who knows

[livid idol]

https://youtu.be/c--1_0HqB3w?t=1522

[rustic pulsar]

woo thats a smexy gpu

[livid idol]

A lot of that is info he's been sitting on waiting to confirm, that got confirmed from the leaks from the hack

[brisk flame]

ion even wanna watch it considering who its made by

[livid idol]

I had the link set to that point in the vid to save you from watching but that's what I'm referencing atm

[wicked hound]

So are the sources for power consumption from engineers working on the card?

Or is that just random speculation from the internet

[livid idol]

Some of them, and AIBs

The AIBs have the firmware for the engineering sample models

[brisk flame]

im just hanging on to my 3080 for who knows how long

4 or 5 years at least

i paid 750, and im gonna use it for as long as possible

by the time i get another gpu theyre gonna be 2k

for midrange

realistically i could use this gpu till it dies

its not like AAA games that need the best of the best graphically are any good

[livid idol]

Apparently 4070 is supposed to beat 3090 (╯°□°）╯︵ ┻━┻

[brisk flame]

if i can sell my 3080 to get a 4060, i may

gonna buy the 4060 before selling the 3080 ofc

but idk

[livid idol]

It'll be a long while before 4060 comes out

[brisk flame]

yeah

[livid idol]

3060 has only been out for a little over a year

[brisk flame]

i wont have a reason to upgrade for years tho

[wicked hound]

new xx70 is usually equal to old xx80Ti (now xx90). I'd say that's probably what will happen again

[livid idol]

I'll be hanging on to my gpu a good long while too. Especially since I still plan to custom loop it. It'll be a pain to undo to get a new card in.

[rustic pulsar]

how long yall think the 3070 ti will last for 1440p, i plan to hold out until i can buy a 6090 hehe

[keen nacelle]

id say around 4 years to run any game at medium

most*

ofc therell be some that are more demanding or badly optomized

[livid idol]

As long as FSR/DLSS still works then easily that long

[rustic pulsar]

i mean most AAA games are kinda meh so thats fine : )

[livid idol]

I still love that flex from AMD demoing their FSR on a 1060

[rugged trout]

hey yall i have a Zotac geforce GTX 1080 8gb 256 BIT Gddr5x here and I'm looking for a compatible cooler for it. i looked on new egg and couldn't find one. even a stock cooler would work. i just have the card with no heat sink or fans

any sugestions?

[livid idol]

https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005003902948459.html

[rugged trout]

thank you, how reliable do you think it would be?

[livid idol]

Probably at least as good as the original

I get parts from aliexpress all the time, never had an issue

[rugged trout]

ill take a look at it thank you

[analog pendant]

$2,229

[normal hawk]

Eh I paid more

[analog pendant]

its stock price tho

[charred raft]

https://www.techpowerup.com/img/GkRQH0CTLiYhnvG6.jpg

Crazy to think the official prices were so low

[normal hawk]

Each AIB sets their own prices

I got the Aorus Extreme for 2249$

[analog pendant]

https://www.newegg.com/asus-geforce-rtx-3090-rog-strix-rtx3090-o24g-gaming/p/N82E16814126456?Item=N82E16814126456

[normal hawk]

No like, I understand the price. People will say its bad but its not that bad.

3090's have been on Newegg (Sold by newegg) for like 2999$ lol.

and not even great models.

Like the Strix and Aorus Extreme.

[analog pendant]

and is it bad that its my first pc build too

[normal hawk]

I wouldn't say its bad. big investment though

[analog pendant]

heres all the things iam getting

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/YLbyXy

[normal hawk]

Is this a workstation or a gaming PC?

[analog pendant]

both

[keen nacelle]

I'd get the liquid freezer ii 360 over that one

[normal hawk]

personally I wouldn't get a NZXT CPU cooler, I'd get Lian Li, Arctic Freezer or EK.

Also I don't think you need that many fans. also, the ROG Crosshair VIII is really for Water Cooling and extreme overclocking

[keen nacelle]

The hell is the budget for this pc

[keen nacelle]

It has to be a meme

There's like 5 headphones

[normal hawk]

There are professional motherboards you can get that are much better since overclocking a 5950x is kind of pointless as to overclock it well you have to disable some of the cores and then you might as well be on like a 12700k or 5800x or somethin

[keen nacelle]

18 fans

[analog pendant]

ik its for the future for a water build i need to learn more tho

[normal hawk]

Nah don't do it.

Custom Loop on your first build will only end poorly. and by the time you learn, you might as well go with an AM5 CPU instead of AM4

[analog pendant]

i have the ryzen 9 5950x already

[normal hawk]

I never said to not get the 5950x

[analog pendant]

thats y i said in the future

[normal hawk]

I'm saying don't invest in watercooling for hardware thats nearing its EOL

Custom Watercool AM5, AIO AM4. Don't prep a 8000$ build to be watercooled when it would be better to save now.

[livid idol]

{(Quietly stops planning to custom loop a 5800X)}

[normal hawk]

Nah that might be necessary

5800X hates everything.

[livid idol]

Ikr

[analog pendant]

and what motherboard should i get then i only liked it because of the 5 m.2 storage

[normal hawk]

5950x is so much easier to cool and it makes no sense

why get 5 m.2's when you could just get larger m.2's?

Wait

The MSI MPG 570S Ace Max and MPG 570S Carbon Max Wifi both have 5 m.2 slots

and are both half the price

[analog pendant]

link plz

[normal hawk]

wait nvm. one of the m.2 slots its reporting is for somethin else.

[analog pendant]

i just want to put anime gifs on it

and for the fans iam getting the Thermaltake Core P8 TG ATX Full Tower Case

[vital oriole]

oof

that case is a furnace

[normal hawk]

Wait, also you have 4000 CL18 ram. You can't really get that to work well on AMD. Trust me I tried

[analog pendant]

what ram should i get then

[vital oriole]

yeah it won't work well with 5950x

cause fclk can't go that high

[normal hawk]

You wanted 64 right?

[analog pendant]

will this work thenhttps://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0897SJ1WQ/ref=ox_sc_saved_title_10?smid=A3TOECTKC4OEBD&psc=1

[normal hawk]

G.Skill Trident Z Neo 64 GB (2 x 32 GB) DDR4-3600 CL16 Memory

Dude are you just picking the most expensive things without knowing what you're looking at?

[analog pendant]

i looked up somethings

like the cpu gpu motherboard m.2 fans power supply and case

[livid idol]

Those royals are actually terrible
No redeeming qualities except maybe the looks, which I hate personally.

[vital oriole]

it's got that bling

but not for me too

[livid idol]

3600 18-22-22 is 🤢

[analog pendant]

are the Corsair Dominator Platinum better option?

[normal hawk]

No

[analog pendant]

😅 \

[normal hawk]

For big sizes you'd have to go with G.skillz cause Crucial which is the one thats preferable doesn't go into larger than 32GB kits.

one moment

[livid idol]

Yeah you really want 2x32gb if possible for 64gb

[normal hawk]

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/VGbTwP/gskill-trident-z-rgb-128-gb-4-x-32-gb-ddr4-3600-cl16-memory-f4-3600c16q-128gtzr

These would be what I'd go for since you claim to want 128gbs. But they will flag as being too high voltage for the 5950x

[analog pendant]

y not 128gb

[normal hawk]

but you probably don't need 128

[green harness]

Do you have a very specific reason to need 128gb?

[analog pendant]

whats the different

[normal hawk]

Unless you're editing 4k/8k movies that you 3D Rendered I can't see you using 128GB's of ram

[green harness]

For gaming 16gb is enough. 32gb I guess if you really need more RAM

[normal hawk]

I have 64GB's and I play around with Ark Dev Editor but never hit more than 48 GB's usage on the app

And thats with me constantly opening map files to access specific models and textures that I need because for some reason they don't populate unless you do that.

[livid idol]

128gb might be good with a 5950X if you're running 30 VMs

[analog pendant]

what about for streaming gaming and working at the same time?

[livid idol]

What kind of work

[hot folio]

^

Unless you have a very specific use for 128gb you don’t need it

[analog pendant]

music/animation

[hot folio]

All you really need is 32

Both of those aren’t really that demanding

[normal hawk]

your files will probably not get large enough to require more than 32GB's even while playing a game like warzone

[livid idol]

32 is plenty yeah, unless you're rendering feature length animation a la Pixar and rendering with flight sim 2020 running in the background on max

[analog pendant]

is it ok then to get 64gb then

just to be safe

[hot folio]

🤦‍♂️

[analog pendant]

iam sorry

[hot folio]

You won’t get anywhere close to maxing out 32Gb

[livid idol]

You will lose performance by going to 64gb

[analog pendant]

really

[livid idol]

Yes

It's a lot harder (twice as hard as 32gb actually) for the memory controller to address and run

Therefore you'll have to use sticks with slower timings

[analog pendant]

oh ok in my mind i thought the more ram the better

[hot folio]

From personal experience most I’ve ever used on a music related project was around 5-6gb and that was in FLstudio using about 20 different plugins

[livid idol]

The more ram the more strain on the whole system

[analog pendant]

ok what 32 gb ram should i get then?

[brisk flame]

32gb is

[brisk flame]

depends entirely on what the rest of your system looks like

what mobo and cpu, specifically

[rugged trout]

ended up buying it

[analog pendant]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/YLbyXy

[brisk flame]

yeah sure

thats just dumping money down the toilet

[analog pendant]

i have money to spend

[brisk flame]

your spending money in the wrong places

what are you even doing with this system???

[green harness]

Tryna flex

[brisk flame]

its a mix of maxing out pcpp for memes and insane professional video editing

[green harness]

The case looks like it'd get toasty

[analog pendant]

not really its better then getting anime Figures & Statues

[brisk flame]

not for a cool 10k USD its not

[green harness]

It wouldn't be difficult to put together a better PC for less though

[brisk flame]

im just gonna assume your gaming

in that case, you get 12900k, 2x16gb of ddr4, some 2-300 dollar z690 board, and 2TB of ssd max

[analog pendant]

yes and working/streaming

[brisk flame]

then drop some extra cash on some 12-18TB HDDs

[wicked hound]

Why 18 fans?

+3 from AIO

[brisk flame]

because the overpriced, garbage case he picked can fit that many i would presume

or maybe pcpp wouldnt let him add anymore

:P

[analog pendant]

Thermaltake Core P8 TG ATX Full Tower Case

[green harness]

I'm fairly sure they just want attention

[brisk flame]

p much

but im bored

[analog pendant]

no its just my first pc build

[wicked hound]

More fans =/= more better. Easy to get fans to fight each other for air, fans can push air into case and then back out immediately from another fan, turbulence, etc.

If you want more RGB I'd suggest RGB strips rather then getting bunch of extra fans

[analog pendant]

idk about rgb that much i only thought for better air flow and if yall are saying the case is bad then i will find another one then

[normal hawk]

if you're really set on fitting all that and Spending a lot for the flex. corsair 7000D Airflow lol

[green harness]

Best to just move on I think. If they want to spend poorly that's their prerogative. I'm not convinced it's a real build

[livid idol]

Or fractal torrent

Comes with all the fans you need

[normal hawk]

the corsair 5000D Airflow will fit a 420mm rad. why do people say its not worth the price?

[analog pendant]

its my first time doing somthing like this so i have no idea whats good or bad

[green harness]

I like the idea of the Torrent, but it's less flexible so meh

I say that as my case can only fit a rad bigger than a 120 in one spot (I learned from that...)

[analog pendant]

i already made a bad choose of getting the iBUYPOWER Snowblind S 19" Translucent case

[cosmic bluff]

ooo i always wanted a snowblind s

[normal hawk]

imagine like an All White build in that case @cosmic bluff

[cosmic bluff]

Yeah

That was my first plan then I was like ehhhh I'll try a blackout build and o boi is it purrrtyyy

[normal hawk]

Lemme seeeee

[cosmic bluff]

This one? And the glass on the 5000d is tinted as well so no lights and with all the specs in my name

I'm waiting for the vanta black 3090 from zotac so I can sell this and get that one

[normal hawk]

oh nice

[cosmic bluff]

ye

[spring flame]

Snagged a Gigabyte 3080 Ti Gaming pretty pumped to receive it surprised how easy it was

True they are expensive but I wanted to give my 3070 tuf to my gf

She gave me the two things I love the most in this world it is the least i could do

Thats a deal and EVGA b-stock is usually pretty trustworthy

Do it then

[normal hawk]

Don't you live near a microcenter rommy

Oh

[spring flame]

$750 from MC in Jan 2020

21 my b

[sturdy charm]

yo guys, i made my a pc with this case: https://es.pcpartpicker.com/product/Pdprxr/deepcool-matrexx-30-microatx-mini-tower-case-matrexx-30

i wanted to ask if this case right here is the same big https://www.amazon.es/Nfortec-Templado-Compatible-Mini-ATX-Ventilador/dp/B07PJZD4QC/ref=asc_df_B07PJZD4QC/?tag=googshopes-21&linkCode=df0&hvadid=339932012056&hvpos=&hvnetw=g&hvrand=5341951905841931243&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvqmt=&hvdev=c&hvdvcmdl=&hvlocint=&hvlocphy=9061039&hvtargid=pla-683593521335&th=1

it isnt, right

cuz i like the second option more and its not such a big price difference

[heady turtle]

It's larger, more expensive and worse, there's no airflow

[sturdy charm]

ok

so ill go with the one you told me

btw

the one you told me, has it a ventilator?

it has, right?

and it's without rgb, right?

[heady turtle]

Like vents for airflow? Yes
If you wanted to spend more on a case I'd go with
https://es.pcpartpicker.com/product/jsqBD3/bitfenix-nova-mesh-se-atx-mid-tower-case-bfc-nse-300-kkxsk-rp

[sturdy charm]

nah, ill go with this one

[sturdy charm]

i mean this things: https://hardzone.es/app/uploads-hardzone.es/2021/06/Ventiladores-no-funcionan.jpg

like this cooling systems

[heady turtle]

Fans?

[sturdy charm]

yeah

yeah fans

it comes with one right?

its ok i just saw it comes with a fan

[heady turtle]

It comes with one

[sturdy charm]

k

[heady turtle]

Yeah but fans are cheap and you can add more later if you want

[sturdy charm]

yeah

i just asked cuz i dont know anything about pcs and i think fans look cool : )

[heady turtle]

No problems

[dusky mesa]

Whoooooooop! My 3070ti just came in ^-^

[dusky mesa]

Also just to confirm it, this is the official DDU download, correct? https://www.guru3d.com/files-details/display-driver-uninstaller-download.html

[heady turtle]

Official install is https://www.wagnardsoft.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=3793

[dusky mesa]

Gotcha. Just wanted to be sure since this is where I get skittish lmao

[heady turtle]

If you need help there's a guide in the pins

[dusky mesa]

I got that grabbed from the other day, so I'm set

[sturdy charm]

Pato, can you explain me how i would get windows 11 on my pc?

[livid idol]

This is a good instinct to have when downloading random things

[dusky mesa]

For sure, especially when I'm trying to mess around with GPU driver installs lmao

[green harness]

Microsoft should have instructions for this

https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/ways-to-install-windows-11-e0edbbfb-cfc5-4011-868b-2ce77ac7c70e

[sturdy charm]

thx

[heady turtle]

I'd actually go windows 10 instead personally

[green harness]

Sure, I went the "create installation media" route and used a USB stick when I installed 10 on my PC

[sturdy charm]

yeah, just to know how to activate or install it

[heady turtle]

Leave unactivated

[sturdy charm]

k

[green harness]

Why?

[dusky mesa]

Alright I'm gonna partially vanish for 30 mins to an hour, hopefully I'll be back with a fresh GPU in my 'puter lol

[sturdy charm]

k good luck

[heady turtle]

@sturdy charm
https://youtu.be/nbGkPYtXtmA

[heady turtle]

Because they had like 600€ budget and leaving unactivated is free

[green harness]

Ah yeah on that budget it makes sense at least for a while

[sturdy charm]

yeah, ok thx, ill look into it

[heady turtle]

You can literally regedit the watermark away anyway soo

[green harness]

I try to stay away from regedits

[dusky mesa]

Okay update, in safe mode, and ddu is doin' its thing

And my PC should be clean. I did the clean and shutdown option, but now for the fun part

[dusky mesa]

Alright, looks like we're good

[sturdy charm]

@heady turtle

i got a question

how about instead of putting the graphic card you told me, i put in the gtx 1650 S ?

[normal hawk]

Don't buy a new 1650s. They are ridiculously overpriced.

[heady turtle]

1650 super? Where would you find that in your budget?

[sturdy charm]

yeah, i just saw it

cuz i was watching a vid and they said only 200

but i see its not

[dusky mesa]

Aged like milk as they say lol

[sturdy charm]

yeah

[normal hawk]

I'd say you'd have better luck getting a 3050 for MSRP and would get more performance. But afaik none of them are for the 249$ MSRP besides one from EVGA and the Gigabyte Eagle. As both Asus and ZOTAC repriced their 249$ cards.

[dusky mesa]

Used you could get a good performing 10 series card for that much

[sturdy charm]

so if my budget for the pc is 600$, should i buy the Sapphire Radeon RX 6500 XT 4 GB PULSE as gpu?

[dusky mesa]

Though if you want Ray-Tracing, then you'd likely want to stick with the 3050

[cosmic bluff]

whats a good estimate for a used 1070

[normal hawk]

No

[sturdy charm]

which then?

[dusky mesa]

About $200 bucks, maybe $250 iirc

[normal hawk]

Look on eBay for 970, 980, 1060, 1070 i think.

[sturdy charm]

yeah but you never know how they might come

like broken or smthn

[normal hawk]

Well we do now how the 6500xt will come.

Poor performance.

Overpriced

[sturdy charm]

ok ok

[normal hawk]

Especially on a lower budget build cause you don't have pcie 4.0 do you?

[sturdy charm]

whats that 😄

[dusky mesa]

I mean to be somewhat fair, it is available for MSRP lol

[sturdy charm]

what gpu should i buy then?

[normal hawk]

MSRP was 199 which not only was too much. But none of the aib's sell them at

[dusky mesa]

Basically the infrastructure/connections between your GPU (kinda) and the rest of your motherboard's parts

[sturdy charm]

k

[normal hawk]

I told you. A used 970,980, 1060, or 1070

[sturdy charm]

k

ill look for them on ebay

btw im in europe, is that a problem?

[dusky mesa]

Ehhh, not really

[sturdy charm]

cuz shpping or smthn

[dusky mesa]

You'd still have a used hardware market, and I recommeded my friend a used 1070 when they lived in the Canadia lands lmao

[sturdy charm]

ok

[green harness]

tbf if you want ray-tracing you're going to need more than a 3050 for the most part

[heady turtle]

they live in spain not US

[heady turtle]

say euro it causes confusion when you currency convert lo

[sturdy charm]

pato

[heady turtle]

yes

[sturdy charm]

should i still use the gpu u told me or should i change it for another one?

[heady turtle]

The one i said is the best you're getting for your budget tbh

[sturdy charm]

yeah, cuz i asked one guy earlier and he told me i shouldn't get it

[dusky mesa]

Depends though, especially since it's still a new feature, and the 3050 is a good entry point imo to see what it's like on a relative budget

[heady turtle]

It's not the best but for your availability and budget it's the best you can get, if you ask isolated people will tell you no but price and availability matter

[sturdy charm]

yeah, yeah. i trust you

another thing if u dont mind

[green harness]

Eh, it just doesn't really have the power for ray tracing. Just like the 2060 before it

[dusky mesa]

I wouldn't say that, especially since the performance is roughly 50fps on med settings overall at 1080p

[green harness]

Yeah that's 100% not worth the RT hit

[heady turtle]

Yeah shoot away

RT is a gimmick especially at 2060/3050 level

[sturdy charm]

no no nothing sorry

[dusky mesa]

Not great, but for testing the waters on a new feature, it's not a bad deal imo

[green harness]

It's a personal choice, but imo it doesn't make any sense to turn on ray tracing on most cards especially anything 3060 and under

That doesn't make the 3050 a bad piece of hardware ofc, just RT is not its selling feature

Its pricing is also not great unfortunately, but that goes for basically all GPUs now

[dusky mesa]

Yeah, everything has it's pricing problems lmao

[heady turtle]

No worries

[dusky mesa]

I'm just glad I finally got a card I wanted for MSRP, at least as close as I can get atm

[heady turtle]

The real advantage of 3050 is dlss

[green harness]

100%

[dusky mesa]

Downside is that I can't plug in my VR because it's hdmi, and I only have one port for it XD

[heady turtle]

Just use dp to hmdi converter

[dusky mesa]

Oh boy I wish I could

My main monitor is a 2560x1080, and those adapters end up stretching my display and making it think that it's a normal 1080p monitor

And since VR headsets are an even more complicated "display" in comparison, it would likely not be guud

Kinda stinks, but I was looking at some new Ultrawides with Displayport anyways

[azure ledge]

I had that film on my gpu logo

For like a year

And didn’t realize until recently

[livid idol]

I don't peel mine off until it starts peeling itself

[heady turtle]

DEMOTED

[livid idol]

I hate fingerprints more than the film lol

And I have kids

[heady turtle]

[sturdy charm]

@ pato

@heady turtle

would a gtx1060 fit in my case?

cuz i found one to a really good price

[heady turtle]

Yes, be careful of scam, what price

[sturdy charm]

https://www.ebay.es/itm/393976241507?hash=item5bbad05d63:g:Hy8AAOSwZ51iJmk6

pretty cheap

would it fit inyo my case?

[heady turtle]

That would work just remember that that's a bid

And still 1 day left

Yes it would fit

[sturdy charm]

what do you mean "thats a bid"

yeah

i think its good

[heady turtle]

It's an auction, like you have to bid on that but there's still a day left, if you do manage to get a slightly cheaper gpu tho, let me know and I'd change a thing or 2 about the build

[sturdy charm]

yeah

im going to put a higher price

for this gpu

k

thx for you help

btw, can i get the money back if im not happy?

like with the gpu, if its broken or smthn

@heady turtle i also got this one

https://www.ebay.es/itm/275197537936?hash=item40130d2e90:g:0R0AAOSwYctiJMRt

which should i buy?

[heady turtle]

Uhhhhhhhhh not happy with it probs not, broken maybe

[heady turtle]

Just remember this is from the UK, so import tax and also 3 days left

[ivory herald]

Did you turn off internet while using ddu & installing fresh driver? That's what I've read/heard to do for latest ddu version, & while offline windows can't try to install it's own video driver 1st

[green harness]

The reason to use safe mode is to not have internet access and avoid windows automatically grabbing a driver

[livid idol]

It's also because the driver is unloaded in safe mode and a generic default one is used, which makes it easier to remove the installed driver

You can have network access in safe mode too

[ivory herald]

Yep I meant after DDU & restart, to stay offline specifically during driver install.

[green harness]

If you specifically enter safe mode w/ networking

[heady turtle]

Nope no reason to do that

[ivory herald]

Good, probably just rare random issues with some people. Personally haven't used ddu, just revoUninstaller & I always hit the "clean" install button.

[hasty sphinx]

Don't give your credit card info to him.

@heady turtle

Idk if this is trolling or not.

[heady turtle]

No don't give anyone here any card info

They were trying to scam you

[hasty sphinx]

Whew. I was actually tense there.

[heady turtle]

What's your budget? Graphics cards are kind expensive and not great stock wise

[heady turtle]

Thanks for the ping

I can help you, what's your budget ?

How much are you willing to spend?

And do they have a graphics card already?

Yeah we can help you for free

You'll have to pay for the graphics card

But not here

On an actual site

[magic wing]

Whats ur budget

Yes but we dont actually work at newegg

We help out in our free time

Ok

We can link you to a gpu thatll be a good fit for ya

[heady turtle]

This is a newegg forum

[magic wing]

But we cant buy it for you

Buy it from the link we provide

Just tell us how much ur willing to pay for ur grandsons gift

[heady turtle]

Unless you're willing to pay $400 or more he should wait, the market for graphics cards is bad right now and he wouldn't be upgrading

[magic wing]

We will send u a link

Buy the gpu

Gift it to him

[heady turtle]

No, a forum as in a chatboard not a form

[timid narwhal]

dude is a master of

https://tenor.com/view/trololo-hi-gif-5030223

NewEgg only accept dodgecoin though

its a currency only available to elites

[heady turtle]

Yeah ask your grandson for something else they would like, any graphics card for 100$ would be worse than his current one

[timid narwhal]

at the dodgecoin store

in your local area

[heady turtle]

Just ignore dodge coin they're messing with you

No

Dogs are cool

There are no employee's online at the moment, but as i mentioned previously
you should ask your grandson for something else they would like, any graphics card for 100$ would be worse than his current one

Don't click it

[fading glacier]

you surely are handling this situation with a lot of professionalism pato

[heady turtle]

No

[fading glacier]

no, im not

[heady turtle]

It's a scam

[heady turtle]

Lol thanks

Laugh out loud

@scenic rapids
you should ask your grandson for something else they would like, any graphics card for 100$ would be worse than his current one

[fading glacier]

those days are long gone sir, just talk with your grandson

[heady turtle]

It means i agree with what he said

[fading glacier]

serves the same purpose as the arrow

[heady turtle]

Yeah, if you're willing to spend that much

[ivory herald]

[timid narwhal]

https://tenor.com/view/frog-hat-gif-24889203

[magic wing]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/467784622776778772.png?size=48&quality=lossless

[timid narwhal]

please ask your grandson if he plays minewseeper or cyberpunk 2077

[magic wing]

Troll?

[heady turtle]

@scenic rapids
https://www.newegg.com/asrock-radeon-rx-6600-xt-rx6600xt-cld-8g/p/N82E16814930063

If you are, they are scams, don't click them

[fading glacier]

the free nitros dont, the link from pato yes

yes

way better

[magic wing]

The fan is on the graphics card so it can cool the graphics card

Graphics cards get quite hot

No

You found a scam on wish

[fading glacier]

well, why coming to newegg anyway?

[magic wing]

Get this

[fading glacier]

yes

[heady turtle]

Wish is full of scams

[fading glacier]

no one

[magic wing]

Hmm definite troll

[fading glacier]

a magical creature

yup

[ivory herald]

Zoomer statement

[fading glacier]

you should check graphics cards with your grandson anyway, maybe that will give you a better picture of what he wants

google it

in any case the 6600xt is the right one for him under 600 usd

[magic wing]

https://tenor.com/view/kamipoulet-chicken-tie-it-up-gif-13424043

[magic wing]

This is hen tie

Ok troll

At least he doesnt need to catfish lol

[rain sand]

Can a 3080ti run fine in a 1080p240hz monitor, will it bottleneck?

[rustic pulsar]

A bit overkill but it will do

[green harness]

You'll most likely be CPU bound. The 3080 Ti will work fine, but it will generally not be fully utilized

It depends a bit on the exact workload

[rain sand]

I’m still upgrading to 1440p later on but for now ima play on 1080p

[rustic pulsar]

Yeah most games where 240hz really matter are cpu bound

[green harness]

Yeah that'll be fine

[rain sand]

So games like, cod/wz, r6, open world & MC will be fine?

[rustic pulsar]

Then something like a 3070/3070ti would be a better choice price wise

[green harness]

1080p in general is more cpu bound like 99% of the time. If someone is on 1440p/240 they're gonna be GPU bound most likely

[heady turtle]

You'll be heavily cpu/ram speed bound

[green harness]

It's not going to hurt the GPU if that's what you're asking.

[rain sand]

Rn I’m running a 1070ti mini

I’m still cpu bound?

[green harness]

I'm not familiar enough with pascal. To know someone would also likely need to know what CPU you are running

[heady turtle]

Depends on your cpu

[rain sand]

Ryzen 7 3700x

[heady turtle]

You'd be gpu bound most likely

But to help enable precision boost overdrive if you haven't already

And make sure your ram is running xmp

[rain sand]

Ima have to look a tutorial on that later lol

3080 will be the same as the 3080ti right?

[heady turtle]

3080 is way cheaper for like 8% less performance maybe but if you want a better card for ~3080 price get the 6900xt, you can get good models for like 1300$

[rain sand]

No one selling amd cards in my area & all the 3080 are about 1000-1200 in my area

[heady turtle]

That's a decent price, and that 6900xt price was new
https://www.newegg.com/sapphire-radeon-rx-6900-xt-11308-03-20g/p/N82E16814202403

Just make sure they're not scams

[rain sand]

Yea that’s what I’m worried about & stuff be getting delayed for shipping. That’s y I was hoping to get a local deal

[rugged thunder]

Always worried about shipping expensive items

[dreamy dragon]

Keitherette#1992 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

[rugged thunder]

Only thing I'll ship over $100 is s t u f f I know won't break

[heady turtle]

dont especially if its from a retailer, ive never bought a pc part/phone in person

[rugged thunder]

I only buy in-person

Never trust the mailman

[heady turtle]

even if it did get damaged during shipping the retailer would have to give you a replacement

[rugged thunder]

Ig

[livid idol]

Price matching at best buy is always good

[rugged thunder]

I kinda wanna upgrade, but with my gpu the only good upgrades will just cost over $600

[heady turtle]

what gpu you got?

[rugged thunder]

1660 Super

Single fan

[heady turtle]

ehh more like 500 maybe

[rugged thunder]

Still alot for me atleast

Its at an awkward spot of being good, but I kinda want more

[heady turtle]

Def

[rugged thunder]

Both CPU and GPu are like that ig

They're still good

Just kinda want more

[heady turtle]

If you wait for 40 series you might be g pricing wise

[rugged thunder]

I probably will

1660 super still plays any game i just throw at it

I don't even overclock

The one time I did i don't think it made much difference

[heady turtle]

you should, get you a nice extra perf kick for free

[rugged thunder]

Unless I overclocked wrong

Dunno

[heady turtle]

well what did you do?

[rugged thunder]

Oh I remember

I cpu over clocked

Not GPU

[heady turtle]

well a few minutes with msi afterburner could get you probably 10% extra

[rustic pulsar]

Hi

[rugged thunder]

Hi

[rugged thunder]

I guess

I think i might spend some money just getting new cooling and all that

[green harness]

I don't think cooling would be a huge issue with that GPU

[rugged thunder]

Eh can't hurt

My pc sits near the mid 70s under normal load

Like playing a game with alot of stuff on screen

[green harness]

If you're looking to upgrade then I'd assume you want to put the upgrade money toward the most impactful performance upgrades

Mid 70s is fine on both the GPU and cpu

[rugged thunder]

Yea

[green harness]

Cooling might get a little bit more out of either, but a new gpu would do much more

[rugged thunder]

My friend says thats too hot, but he's comparing air cooled to a liquid cooler

[rugged thunder]

Yeah, ill probably wait

Newer GPUs are seeming to stagnate

[green harness]

It mostly matters if a component is thermal throttling. In the 70s that should not be the case

[rugged thunder]

Each new one is less and less of an upgrade

From what I can tell

[green harness]

That's because they started by releasing some of the highest end cards

[rugged thunder]

I guess

The cooling doesn't have a sound issue either now that I think about it

The only noise I usually hear is the HDD

[heady turtle]

That's fine

Can always make fan curve more aggressive

[heady turtle]

Not at all

[rugged thunder]

I think my room is just hella cold tbh

[green harness]

I think they got this impression because 3090/80 were released first, then lower tier SKUs, and Ti GPUs are minimal upgrades from the base models. I think they're thinking about most recent releases without considering the overall product stack

[rugged thunder]

I only ever hear of the newer higher tier stuff

It's what people usually talk about

Unless they're insulting something

[green harness]

fwiw when AMD and Nvidia each release new generations of GPUs (likely this Fall) I'd expect a larger performance increase than we saw from Ti cards. I'll wait for reviews ofc

[rugged thunder]

3050

[green harness]

3080 and 3090 were a huge upgrade over prior gen stuff

[rugged thunder]

Maybe I just have a weird view of stuff

Since I don't go over 1080p

I know the newer stuff is made for like 1440p

[heady turtle]

As in like YouTubers etc? Because when they do builds it's more fun for them to have a higher end part

[rugged thunder]

Yeah

[heady turtle]

Well i mean some ti cards, 3060 vs 3060 ti is large

[green harness]

True

[heady turtle]

Xx80 vs xx80 ti has always been minimal

[rugged thunder]

I'm just hoping 20 series GPUs drop in price for a bit

Wanna snag like a 2070

[green harness]

I don't think of the 3060 Ti on the same vein as it wasn't like a refresh/price hike, but actually released pre 3060

[heady turtle]

"made for" still perfectly good for 1080p

[green harness]

i.e still crush 1080p

[heady turtle]

They've always used the better stuff, eg go back to 20 series YouTuber builds, you'll find a lot of 2080/super/ti builds

[rugged thunder]

I guess

[green harness]

What you're running into is the fact that 1080p is nearly always CPU bound. The limit right now at that resolution is CPU power, not GPU power. Current GPUs can push more at 1080p but CPUs get maxed out

[rugged thunder]

That makes me wonder if I should upgrade CPU

It's only a 6 core 6 thread

[green harness]

3700x is not 6x6

[rugged thunder]

Since I don't plan on moving away from 1080p any time soon

[rugged thunder]

No, I mean my cpu is

Lol

[green harness]

Didn't you say you have an AMD r7 3700x?

[rugged thunder]

Uh

Not me

[green harness]

Oh ok

[rugged thunder]

I have an Ryzen 5 3500

[green harness]

My mistake

[rugged thunder]

[green harness]

Ah

Sorry

[rugged thunder]

No its okay

Just saying this makes me think maybe a cpu upgrade would be better

If I im staying at 1080p

[green harness]

Maybe, but I don't know enough about what your GPU can push to be certain

[rugged thunder]

I guess

[heady turtle]

3500 is fine

[rugged thunder]

I dunno if a jump from 6 threads would be all too worth it

[heady turtle]

Gpu upgrade first

[green harness]

Pato knows stuff. I defer to Pato on this

[rugged thunder]

Yeah I guess ill wait then

Gonna wait out for like a 2070 super

I heard the 1080ti is still pretty good

[green harness]

Did you buy your current PC as a pre-built?

[rugged thunder]

Yeah, I've been meaning to move the parts to a normal build

It was some pavilion on sale

Like $500? Yea

[green harness]

One thing to watch out for is that they may have used a proprietary power supply and/or motherboard. Typically someone here can help sort through that stuff with you if you want

[heady turtle]

@rugged thunder check this out https://imgur.com/a/WZBresN

[rugged thunder]

Yeah I know a bit

I've been meaning to move the stuff over

Probably find some old rig that's just a MB and case