#graphics-cards

1 messages · Page 405 of 1

wise plank
#

Yeah I'm out here running intel HD 4600 lol

#

Absolute trash

lusty garden
#

christ

wise plank
#

Integrated graphics

lusty garden
#

yeah it's obvious

wise plank
#

On an Intel i5 4570 from 2013

#

200+ fps on minecraft tho

#

Probably be lucky to get 4 on anything else tho

#

I'm thinking that the card I showed earlier is a mining card from when China outlawed crypto mining

#

There's a lot of listings of it on ebay

lusty garden
#

it does look like a fake 1050ti

wise plank
#

Yeah

lusty garden
#

seen those in some weird ADs

wise plank
#

It's sponsored on eBay as well which is weird

#

Under chip manufacturer it says "for Nvidia"

#

Definitely another one of those not worth the risk ones

toxic sinew
#

Guaranteed

#

It has VGA

#

It's a GTS 450 or some crap

lusty garden
#

lol vga

toxic sinew
#

This scam has been going on for a couple of years now

dreamy dragonBOT
#
Echo#1669 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

wise plank
#

Oops

#

So its just a 1050 fan assembly on top of a crap card

faint beacon
#

hey i have a question that i assume is commonly asked, but i’ll ask cuz i don’t know

#

what’s the best way to get a 30 series card without overpaying, newegg shuffle is ridiculous in price and would have cost me as much as a 3090 for a 3080

autumn dune
#

I’ve been told that the Newegg shuffles are at msrp

faint beacon
#

1500$ for a 3080?

autumn dune
#

Apparently so

faint beacon
#

they aren’t from newegg, they are resellers

#

you can check too but what would the best way besides shuffle be

autumn dune
#

The best way to get a high end card without ridiculous prices is to go for a Radeon 6000 series

faint beacon
#

i figured as much, tho not having dlss is a huge deal breaker

autumn dune
#

For $1500 you can get a really good 6900xt

faint beacon
#

and gsync

#

if i get desperate enough i will prolly go 6900xt

autumn dune
#

Well then if you must go Nvidia then the only way besides Newegg shuffles is Best Buy drops and getting a founders edition directly from Nvidia before the bots do

faint beacon
#

ty

#

i was talking about how and doesn’t support gsync and that’s a dealbreaker

#

hence why i wanna go nvidia

#

also dlss

#

that’s not what i’m taking about

#

you can’t use gsync on a amd gpu

#

yes i do know that

#

tho gsync is superior,

#

even then

#

dlss

#

need i say more

fossil talon
#

Gsync ~= Freesync

tall lichen
#

tfw I could've gotten a 1060 3GB version

heady turtle
#

Also freesync is basically in the display port spec now anyway

heady turtle
fading glacier
#

also gsync = freesync

cerulean rover
#

G sync premium, or whatever they're calling it now is different from Freesync, actually has a dedicated chip for fun things

fading glacier
#

yup, camping the drop at best buy is the only way these days

cerulean rover
#

The 200$/year subscription thing does make things harder

#

And we'll have to wait to see if bb does more in-person drops

fading glacier
#

but the 200$ thing is for online huniting

#

the camping at site is free... just 2 days camping in advance at your next door best buy

cerulean rover
#

That's when best buy decides to do an in-person drop again

faint beacon
heady turtle
heady turtle
heady turtle
#

Pet peeve when people say that

faint beacon
#

thank you

#

mobile spell check -___-

ivory herald
#

Driver-side instead of game-dependent DLSS would be a frikkin game changer.

heady turtle
#

Going to be similar to fsr where it's little to no work for the devs to put into the game iirc

ivory herald
#

Awesome. Might be something that's also not limited to 20/30 series.

heady turtle
cerulean rover
ivory herald
#

Ah, interesting. Any idea the oldest amd gpu that can use fsr? Tbh I'm not too concerned. Probably give dlss a go someday when owning a newer gpu.

long forge
#

Is a sapphire nitro+ 6800xt better resell value than a normal AMD rx 6800xt?

green harness
long forge
green harness
#

Well the AMD reference card is being scalped so there's that. Those are only sold direct by amd and they go for 649

long forge
#

$649 USD, it’s around $800 Canadian yeah

green harness
#

I think that's about right

long forge
#

I’m just thinking after mining is done which would be easier to resell

green harness
#

I think the sapphire has RGB, you would need to check, which people often like

ivory herald
dry kelp
#

Just got a powercolor hellhound 6700xt form microcenter, put it in my PC, and it refuses to boot. Can anyone help point me in the right direction?

#

I have yet to find the rest of my power supply cables, so I only have one out of 2 8-pin cables connected

livid idol
#

Well if the gpu isn't properly powered that's the reason it won't boot

lone pond
#

@keen nacelle Theres a 3060ti and a 3070 fe at the bb 40 minutes away

#

From me

green harness
heady turtle
graceful moon
quartz gull
#

I have a similar issue with my monitor

#

if I don't plug it in it stops accepting display port signals for some reason

gray bloom
#

maybe its loose?

rustic pulsar
#

I had a similar issue with my grandpa , he wouldn’t turn on but when I plugged his life support back in, it was too late

jovial goblet
#

its cheaper to buy gpus in other countries

ripe pagoda
#

just bought a rtx 3060 but I currently have an rx 6700 xt, trying to figure out which one I should use and which one to sell because part of me wants nvidia but i know its a downgrade

heady turtle
ripe pagoda
#

so your saying its not worth it ?

heady turtle
#

Definitely not

ripe pagoda
#

I play at 1440p

#

idk if that matters

#

well thanks for the advice

heady turtle
ripe pagoda
#

gotcha

stark barn
#

What are some good PCIE cables that glow that connect to motherboard and gpu(that has 3 slots)

#

Like these two white ones

wicked hound
# heady turtle Dldsr is on the way apparently

It'll be DSR AI stuff. Which means higher res then monitor, so like super AA. Might not be temporal like current DLSS cuz it's apparently driver side only and getting stuff like vector motion stuff is basically required 99% of the time for good temporal results. Without vector motion info it's extremely hard to not get ghosting issues.
If it's driver side then basically games arent required to output vector motion

heady turtle
heady turtle
wicked hound
#

It'll give different outputs. DLSS is like having a FHD display but rendering in HD to then upscale in FHD. DSR is like having an FHD display but rendering in QHD. AI DSR will be like having an FHD display and rendering in FHD to upscale to QHD.
Im expecting AI DSR to either be a meh temporal or not temporal at all due to apparently being driver side only. So AI DSR will have different results then a similar upscaling scenario of DLSS more then likely.

heady turtle
heady turtle
#

This also works

normal hawk
#

no point in correcting it because the majority of english speakers know what it means.

heady turtle
normal hawk
#

"could care less
Does not care about something at all. The phrase is a colloquial version of "could not care less." "

heady turtle
#

It's just people saying it wrong

normal hawk
#

its similar to how Literally now means figuratively as well

heady turtle
normal hawk
#

English is an evolving language and it gets changed as people use it in different ways.

heady turtle
#

Pretty sure it's just people saying it wrong but sure

normal hawk
heady turtle
#

Ehh still don't like it

normal hawk
green harness
#

I think it's fair to say couldn't care less/could care less is still disputed as evidenced here

#

Could care less bugs me as well

brisk flame
#

nobody says it like that

#

everyone says "couldn't care less"

vital oriole
#

That word has always confused my non native english brain tbh

brisk flame
#

i think ur just mishearing things

normal hawk
brisk flame
#

ive never heard it said like that bro

#

literally never

heady turtle
normal hawk
brisk flame
#

morons say it wrong, lets leave it at that

green harness
#

It's colloquialism btw

green harness
#

Unless enough people decide to agree with you and repeat it into the future and entrench it in the language

#

It's similar to how a bunch of people who loved latin decided to try to apply dumb latin-inspired rules to English and now we're still fighting that nonsense

normal hawk
#

Merriam Websters already said its acceptable. So...

#

I got the power of the dictionary on my side. 😂

brisk flame
#

it helps us understand how english as a language has evolved

#

and why we use the words we use today

#

ofc tons of our words also come from all over the place

#

like french and stuff

green harness
# brisk flame its not really nonsense...

The Latin inspired rules are nonsense and generally lead to very awkward sentence structure. English is germanic in origin, and as you say has borrowed from many languages, but the rules I'm referring to were not beneficial

brisk flame
#

idk i just speak words like the guy next to me

#

rules and whatnot are mostly irrelevant

#

even in the creation of new words

green harness
brisk flame
#

although typically, the more wellspoken a person is in english and other languages, the less sense new words can make lol

green harness
#

Well yeah, people for example naturally put prepositions at the end of sentences in English but some people have tried to stop this because ???? Latin or something

brisk flame
#

no clue, i didnt even know that was a thing

heady turtle
green harness
#

The main theory is because Latin, but could be a mix

rose wave
#

You guys can have this Newegg shuffle. I’ll sit out 🥲

normal hawk
west dust
#

i still tried for a 3080ti

#

is it worth it if i really want a 3090?

normal hawk
west dust
#

and streaming

normal hawk
west dust
#

also running 2x 4k monitors
1x 2k
and an ultrawide

normal hawk
#

you'd be better off looking at r/hardwareswap for a 3090

west dust
#

wow 2800

#

might as well save for an A6000 at that rate yoj

#

but yeah thanks for the r/hardwareswap tip 🙂

normal hawk
#

A lot of the 3090 posts are moreso them trying to break even. unless its an FE card. so they'll charge you the cards price + tax + paypal fee.

#

so you'd probably be looking at 2400-2500

#

potentially lower

west dust
#

that's roughly half an a6000 so thats good

#

ty so much for the tips 🙂

dreamy dragonBOT
#
TripleA#7559 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

long forge
#

Which card is considered more Premium and a gamer would buy? Sapphire Nitro+ 6800XT or MSI Trio 6800XT?

normal hawk
#

Which is cheaper

#

and how much are you paying?

fading glacier
#

premium for a gamer: 3080

normal hawk
magic wing
#

or 6900xt

normal hawk
#

Racing games is AMD Sided for example. only racing game with dlss is F1. While Dirt, Forza, the NFS games, and such run better on AMD GPU's iirc.

fading glacier
#

just saying as the top of the line, 3090 not a gaming card and the 3080 ti is a joke for the price/comparison against a 3080

#

6900xt is another premium for gamers

normal hawk
#

6800 XT outperforms the 3080 reliably though

#

lol

magic wing
#

idk man

normal hawk
#

My 3080 ti was cheaper than several 3080's now due to the 12gb starting at 1249 and going up from there lol.

magic wing
#

dont just watch half a gamers nexus video and come to conclusions mate

#

lol

fading glacier
#

hmmm, then i stand corrected

normal hawk
#

the 12gb 3080 is a big waste. the 3080 ti is actually decent compared to the 3070 ti, 3080 12gb, and 3090 ti.

magic wing
#

now the 3070 ti tho

normal hawk
#

as long as you're not paying a ridiculous amount for it of course

magic wing
#

absolute waste over a 3070

normal hawk
#

AMP Holo is a good model though. if this was like 1699 I think it'd be suggestible to people.

#

1599 would be amazing

mental garnet
#

How much y'all think a 750ti would sell for?

west dust
#

theres a 3090 ti?????

normal hawk
west dust
#

ok im waiting for that then

normal hawk
#

NO

west dust
#

oh

#

wait why

normal hawk
#

it'll be like 3000$+ and its like 5% better than the 3090.

west dust
#

oh at that price might as well save for an a6000 lmao

#

so then regular 3090 it still is

#

neato

normal hawk
#

They made it solely to take #1 performance back from AMD on the 6900XT

dreamy dragonBOT
#
RandomOperations#6973 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

west dust
mental garnet
#

You could get a used car for that price lmao

normal hawk
#

cause the 6900XT has models that reliable out perform the 3090 in gaming.

west dust
mental garnet
#

Prius

west dust
#

🅱️rius

#

#haggle dealers

#

i mean it drives right

mental garnet
#

I feel that

dreamy dragonBOT
#
RandomOperations#6973 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

mental garnet
#

Bruh

west dust
#

F

mental garnet
#

Ffs

#

WTF did I even say

west dust
#

idk lmao

#

type it, screenshot it, then send pic?

magic wing
mental garnet
#

"that word"

#

Tldr. Car bought for too much, fixing everything on it, it's a money pit. And I want to take a hammer to it.

west dust
mental garnet
#

Can't upgrade computer cuz of this dang car

#

Can I say damn

#

I can say damn

west dust
#

lmao

mental garnet
#

Look at that

#

Damn damn damny damn damn

#

I just wanna run my games so they can run on at least medium quality lmao. But that ain't possibly now a days without spending 2k on a graphics card

west dust
#

what card do you have now

mental garnet
#

770 lmao

west dust
#

i can send you an ugly looking 1080

#

it's from the inside of a gigabyte aorus box or whatever

#

but it works i think
i am using it for folding@home now

mental garnet
#

Lmfao whaaaat

west dust
#

so it seems to work

#

it doesn't fold very fast so i don't mind parting with it

#

i can put a titan xp in the box anyway 😎

mental garnet
#

The hell is folding anyway

west dust
#

folding is like
medical research stuff

cerulean rover
#

Folding proteins

mental garnet
#

Gotcha

west dust
#

covid, alzheimers, etc

#

i feel bad your car's eating your money lol

normal hawk
#

its like mining, but actually beneficial for the world

long forge
#

Price for Saphhire around $1350, the MSI one is a bit more like $1400-$1600 range... Ofcourse 3080 is more premium for gamers but if we had to choose between the 2 for resell after mining which would hold better value?

mental garnet
cerulean rover
#

The desktop app has a simulation for what you're folding iirc

normal hawk
cerulean rover
#

Folding is pretty far from mining in terms of the actual calculation

#

For mining, 6900xt pretty bad

long forge
normal hawk
long forge
cerulean rover
#

Mining is randomly trying hashes for the block, folding is trying to simulate proteins, each simulation matters

long forge
#

so just looking at this more long term i guess we cant really tell

normal hawk
cerulean rover
#

Just remember, you reselling also means a lot of other people reselling

long forge
#

is the end date still june/july this year?

cerulean rover
#

PoS keeps getting pushed back, who knows

long forge
#

right now my old pc is just sitting doing nothing, just considering buying something to mine with

#

something low cost and decent return thats why 6800xt

normal hawk
#

6800 XT for 1300-1600 isn't low cost

long forge
#

oh lol my other option was 3060ti for 950

normal hawk
#

and since they start at 650$ from AMD, once POS goes up there likely won't be as much of a return as you think there is.

long forge
#

but it hashes around 40 versus 6800 at 60s

cerulean rover
#

The thing is, it's just not really worth much any more

west dust
#

im willing to repurpose mining cards for folding 🤓

long forge
#

so youre saying its not really worth getting a gpu to mine with

west dust
#

send em my way 🤓

normal hawk
#

if you really want to mine, the 12gb 2060 has a 31 MH rate and is less than half the cost of the 6800 XT.

#

so it equals out

cerulean rover
#

Well, if you get one

#

2070 and 5700xt is the best for hash rate compared to msrp

normal hawk
#

But no ones selling a 5700 XT for less than ~800$ right now.

cerulean rover
#

Ye

normal hawk
#

and when the prices fall, they'll fall like a rock

#

cause they aren't that good anymore 😂

cerulean rover
#

I upgraded from a 2070 to 3060ti for gaming, but what I'm making from mining has dropped

#

And nowadays I'm getting like a 1$ a day

normal hawk
#

Especially with the negative connotation that mining ruins performance on GPU's despite evidence saying otherwise.

keen nacelle
#

Mine makes about 2.5 a day currently

#

But that's 24hrs

#

With school I only game a few hours a day, and nothing intense so I leave the miner on

cerulean rover
#

Yea, lhr

#

I also haven't really tuned it

keen nacelle
#

Is it at stock rn?

cerulean rover
#

I did get my old 2070 to like +1200 vram, my 3060ti atm is just chilling at a uv/uc and +600mhz vram

keen nacelle
#

I know ocing for lhr cards is diff bc dual mining, but my settings are -502 core +1250 mem 55% pl

cerulean rover
#

Iirc it's like 1400mhz 900mv atm

#

80% pl

keen nacelle
#

You could easily do +900 on mem

#

Even a trash bin 3060 ti can do that for mining

cerulean rover
#

Yea but I just didn't have time to test stability

west dust
#

is a 2060 really worth $500?

cerulean rover
#

If it crashes as is, I won't be use it for anything for the next month

cerulean rover
west dust
#

ah...

cerulean rover
keen nacelle
#

Ahh

#

Why not use parsec or smthn similar?

cerulean rover
#

I am using parsec

#

But if it crashes, no one there to turn it back on

keen nacelle
#

I've never had a pc turn off from ocing too far

#

Even doing +1800 on mem

cerulean rover
#

I have

#

I was nearly in a boot loop with my old 2070 at +1400

#

Because I left afterburner on start on startup

#

Either way, I'd not risk it atm

#

I'll tune it next time I'm home

long forge
#

im limited on options

mental garnet
#

i still need an answer about how much a 750ti would sell for

keen nacelle
#

Maybe 80$? Check ebay sold prices

wicked hound
#

Entirely location based cuz everything is local only

long forge
normal hawk
#

Would it maybe be cheaper to cross into the US to get a GPU? I know a lot of canadians who come to minnesota for back to school sales

wicked hound
#

Do you need Nvidia? AMD is way easier to get using AMD Direct Buy

long forge
wicked hound
#

They were open at one point recently. Idk if they still are

normal hawk
long forge
#

yeah something that can mine well and hold value for resell

long forge
#

I already have White ROG strix 3080 right now

long forge
wicked hound
#

Need to find out what AMD Drop times are. I'd say join a stock discord and ask. They use to be like Wed or Thurs 1PM EST and slowly moved to 10AM EST (this was many months ago now). It's a queue that opens on drop and closes at drop finish (similar to Zotac?).

long forge
wicked hound
long forge
wicked hound
#

Ye, make sure to check the last few times as sometimes each one can be early/late (by hour, not day)

wise plank
#

I found a Quadro k5000 for 200 CAD today, is that worth buying nowadays?

crisp void
#

4GB of VRAM isn't great

wise plank
#

Can't find much for that price point

#

I need something faster than a GTX 660

crisp void
#

get something like a 6600

keen nacelle
#

that is not a card for gaming

ivory herald
wicked hound
#

980Ti is regularly like $250 CAD on CAN HWS

wooden fern
#

we need another gpu to make fun of, lets get nvidia to make the 2050

keen nacelle
#

they already have

#

its a mobile gpu

wooden fern
#

oh thats right

ivory herald
mental garnet
amber tangle
#

2060 or 3050

#

?

keen nacelle
#

Depends on price

#

Whichever cheaper imo

#

Theyre pretty similar

rustic pulsar
keen nacelle
#

3050=1660 ti with dlss and rtx

rustic pulsar
#

thats what passmark says

livid idol
#

Passmark isn't the whole story

#

It's only one benchmark

keen nacelle
#

as in whats the most youd pay for one

livid idol
#

$1000 probably

keen nacelle
#

alr

#

whats the msrp again?

#

for the reference

#

800?

livid idol
#

Amd didn't do official msrp

#

But the reference model is $650

#

AIB starting around $800

keen nacelle
#

650? wow

rustic pulsar
keen nacelle
#

i know

#

i thought itd be much higher

#

considering 6700xt is 500

rustic pulsar
#

my rule of thumb is to get the best card for every other generation, i had a 1080 ti and planned on waiting for the 3090 but too much $$$

vapid owl
#

Can a 3080 run stable 4k ?

rustic pulsar
keen nacelle
#

as well as game

#

in some games it will struggle with ultra 60fps

rustic pulsar
#

^^

vapid owl
#

😳

#

Too bad there a dumb shortage

#

😢

keen nacelle
#

id recommend just 1440p tbh

#

unless running over 32in

rustic pulsar
keen nacelle
rustic pulsar
#

just the card

keen nacelle
#

ima be honest

#

hell nah

rustic pulsar
#

but i can put natsuki on the gpu since it has a little display thing

#

also ive been riding on a 2060+$500 and have 100 from that i wannit

#

power slots on it look to be an 2x4, 2x4, and 2x3, idk if I have a 2x3, will it come with an adaptor or no?

green harness
#

Like 1.3 easy

livid idol
#

Sure, now it is

#

But that's not original price

green harness
#

No, but saying AIB starting at 800 now is just misleading. Hasn't been close to that in ages

green harness
livid idol
#

We were talking about msrp
Not current prices

green harness
#

MSRPs have gone up (except on the reference model)

#

They're not static

#

EVGA has done it like two or three times and they haven't raised prices as much as others

keen nacelle
#

bacteria

green harness
#

Brettanomyces (a yeast used in sour/wild beer)

green harness
livid idol
#

Retail price and msrp are different. The msrp is a suggested price by the manufacturer. That doesn't change. What can change is the actual retail price, according to market conditions.

normal hawk
# livid idol Retail price and msrp are different. The msrp is a suggested price by the manufa...
#

and the only AMD cards that were ever at "MSRP" are the reference cards available from AMD Direct. Everything else has been from 1.5x to 2x MSRP the whole time.

green harness
#

I gave an example before you made that statement which refutes it

rustic hatch
#

Who wanna bet rtx 4080 price will start at like £1000 cus they giving you the big F U

livid idol
#

That's basically what the leaks and rumors point at

#

Double performance, at nearly double power draw, heat, and price

normal hawk
#

Buy a 1300W PSU while you can

rustic hatch
#

Oof I just assumed they would just set the msrp high cus they can there competing with scalpers and they know people would buy a 4060 for like £600

rustic hatch
#

Why are u a vpi

#

VIP*

normal hawk
#

Cause i talk a lot

rustic hatch
#

Idk if that's sad or not

#

Think it's more sad that I linked my phone number to my discord just to talk here ...

livid idol
#

Not like anyone here can see the phone number anyway. It's just an anti-bot feature.

quartz gull
#

I bet you I could set up a bot using a service like text now to generate working phone numbers for a large number of accounts

#

While it helps I don't think it's going to limit botting as much as a lot of people think

long forge
#

@wicked hound the AMD queue is happening, are the prices in USD or CAD? I remember you were saying youre from Canada too

long forge
#

it reminds of the ontario covid vaccine booking site....the little person walking

#

omg estimated more than hour

wicked hound
#

Yeah may not get it this round then

long forge
#

people are using multiple browsers...etc? wow

wicked hound
#

Probs multi proxies

keen nacelle
#

I got over an hour on my phone and laptop

#

Not gonna get anything if it's over 45min most likely

normal hawk
#

Woah that shuffle is awful

quartz gull
#

Can we go back to 2018/2019 where Nvidia was struggling to move 20 series stock

#

Where their price to performance had consequences SCkittyCRY

#

I remember everyone calling out how absolutely terrible the entire line up price to performance was

#

No one would ever buy a 2080ti for that price!

#

Now 3 years later people think a 3090 at $1500 is a must but steal.

normal hawk
#

Hey @quartz gull , wait for the 6000H mini pc's to do your gamecube PC. RDNA2 APU's 😮

quartz gull
#

omg that's actually smart

#

Do they have benchmarks on the apus yet?

#

I'm curious how absurd they are

keen nacelle
#

with proper drivers and such, it could be higher

livid idol
#

They got like 85 fps in forza 5 on 1080p low, and that's a laptop

heady turtle
#

thats pretty good for a laptop apu EmojiHot

west dust
golden badger
#

hi

brisk dew
#

hi all... anyone can help is appreciated..

is rtx 3050 compatible with 3950x ? not sure where to find info for this..

livid idol
#

Yes

solemn panther
#

mmm

#

strange combo

open elbow
#

So I have a super old build and am planning to do a fresh one this year, but I'm the meantime a friend of mine has an old RTX 2080 he's wanting to get rid of and I was wondering if there are compatibility issues at all with newer cards and older boards?
For reference, I'm currently running:

Asus Maximus VII Hero
i7 4790k
1660 Super

Would I run into any issues if I slotted an RTX card into this ancient mobo?

livid idol
#

Nope. No issues. PCI-e is totally cross compatible.

open elbow
#

Oh amazing, that's wonderful news! Thanks for the response 💕

ivory herald
livid idol
#

Nah 3090 works fine at 3.0 x16

#

3.0 x8, maybe a bottleneck in certain things but probably not in gaming much

quartz gull
#

Wait you're telling me I don't need my pcie 5.0 x16 for my 3070???

#

But what about the spec sheet SCcrying

#

5 > 3!

normal hawk
#

Overclocking champ right there

ivory herald
normal hawk
#

Which pcie riser should i get

west dust
normal hawk
#

For a GPU. To put it in a console sized case so it has to be pretty flexible

west dust
#

Still not sure what kind of riser you mean 😅

#

An extension cable?

normal hawk
#

Yes. A riser cable.

#

Pcie to pcie

#

For GPU's

west dust
#

Ah ok im also familiar with mining risers that are actually switches, so i wasnt sure lol

normal hawk
#

Ew

#

Mining risers

west dust
#

Theres a cable i used - let me get a link

#

LINKUP - Ultra PCIe 4.0 X16 Riser Cable [RTX3090 RX6900XT x570 B550 Z690 Tested] Shielded Extreme High-Speed Vertical Mount Gaming PCI Express Gen4┃Universal 90 Degree Socket{30cm}-3.0 Gen3 Compatible https://smile.amazon.com/dp/B09CHHR5VD/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_glt_i_HJXPSFE4NXB2HSG6TZ7X?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1

quartz gull
#

the one that was lighting on fire

fair socket
#

So just finished a new build with a 3050 that just came in. I get an American Megatrends screen saying my gpu is not detected and CSM is turnt on. I tried to find it in the device manager and no luck.

ruby surge
#

I just got a 3050 letsss gooooo pairing it with a 12400f

livid idol
#

It happens all the time lol

fair socket
#

Yeah i checked the cables and everything

livid idol
#

Ok. You've got it in the top x16 slot, right?
Take it out and put it back in the slot, checking for any cables and things in the way

fair socket
#

Yeah i also did that. Also inserted it on the bottom slot too but nothing. It turns on like normal though. The rgb and everything, even connecting a monitor to the DP.

livid idol
#

Perhaps a bios update will help

frail dew
#

less go won the shuffle today

#

suprim rtx 3070ti

gray bloom
#

i want 3080 suprimx

#

if only i can exhangemy 3080 zotac for suprim x sad

rustic pulsar
heady turtle
heady turtle
#

Lol

timid narwhal
#

you got an FE card. are you a genie?

timid narwhal
#

cant belive youre gonna be using it for mining. Those cards are too beautoful for that

heady turtle
#

And my 3070 is 2.5 slots

timid narwhal
#

oh right

heady turtle
#

Literally touching each other

#

Also because 3060 ti is only 8 pin connector i don't have to worry about getting another pcie power

magic wing
#

then its MINE

#

my gamoring gpu

#

:)

#

ly pato

hasty monolith
#

Is 2060 12gb any good

heady turtle
#

It's about halfway between 2060 and 2060 super so it's fine but I've never seen it at a semi decent price

hasty monolith
#

I could do 4k30 at low right

magic wing
#

depends on game

#

and dlss support

#

but in general nop

ivory herald
#

Yeah you could do youtube/movies at 4k30 😅. 30fps on games sounds like torture.

heady turtle
#

30fps in games is a slideshow

magic wing
#

thats why movies are in 24fps

heady turtle
hot folio
#

…wait the 2060 12gb actually came out?

wicked hound
#

Anyone know how this works? I've tried it on my games folder and it didnt do anything.

frail dew
heady turtle
wicked hound
# heady turtle What are you trying to do?

Trying to fix the dumb gsync issues Im having. Basically whenever PC/monitor goes to sleep when gsync is on I'll have to restart gsync else Ill get flickering in games. As of now my fix was to try to only have gsync be enabled on my games folder and disabled globally by using profiles. Tho the folder profile didnt work

heady turtle
#

Ohh weird

#

Have you tried ddu ing?

wicked hound
#

98% sure I tried that before. I'll probs try it again after my class.

#

My current solution is to keep it disabled and manually enable it when I want to play a game. Tho it's a bit of a pain to do things manually.

heady turtle
#

Yeah that's a pita

wicked hound
#

On the bright side I learned that monitors have drivers during my crusade to fix this

#

Specifically, my current monitor has downloadable drivers

heady turtle
#

Yeah most download through windows update tho

rustic pulsar
frail dew
#

Wait what it is

keen nacelle
#

if not early january

rustic pulsar
keen nacelle
#

there were just so few of them it was rare to see them anywhere

frail dew
rustic pulsar
#

Okay, stickers!!!

#

No I’m joking it comes with a nice mousepad

keen nacelle
#

Yo @normal hawk you near a microcenter?

normal hawk
#

Eh, my brothers job closed down. So he's kinda broke now.

heady turtle
#

That's hot

keen nacelle
#

ahh, rip

#

It's an 85w 3050 ti

heady turtle
#

Still

keen nacelle
#

That makes it better

#

Almost full power

#

Mine is I think 55w

normal hawk
#

Oh that would definitely be nice

heady turtle
#

85w is probs standard for a 3050 ti

keen nacelle
#

on raven it maxed out at 55w

#

i think i can check power limit with gpu-z though

frail dew
heady turtle
keen nacelle
#

not worried about the temps

#

temps are great on it for gpu

#

cpu meh

heady turtle
keen nacelle
#

cant you just check in gpu-z anyways

cerulean rover
#

Can't tell what pl is without knowing from vbios or testing

heady turtle
#

Not that ik of without max load

cerulean rover
#

If you know what vbios you have and it's in the tpu database you can find it there

#

If not, just furmark it or smth

keen nacelle
#

it looks like its 80w from dell website

#

cant tell for sure though because why would dell make anything simple

#

all im going off of

#

ill have to do the furmark thing tho

heady turtle
#

Simple way, google your model number + tdp and hope notebook reviews has a review or furmark

keen nacelle
#

in a timespy bench?

#

that gave a max power usage of 61.7w

#

which obviously isnt a possible wattage lol

#

so prolly 65?

keen nacelle
#

rx 560s seem to be decently priced

keen nacelle
#

i needa find my glasses

#

84.3w its maxed out at

#

so its 85w max

keen nacelle
#

decided to mess with ocing on it again, because i had timespy and msi open anyways

#

got 7th and it looks like +240 core and +650 mem is stable now

#

that bench is about to finish

#

wait

#

it went up to 85.7w

#

during the bench

#

does that mean its 90w?

normal hawk
#

Some people are so obsessive with the strix models

keen nacelle
#

strix only gpu that matters

#

strix 980 ti> kingpin 3090

normal hawk
#

Why no aorus extreme love.

keen nacelle
#

because higher price mean better

normal hawk
#

Imagine getting a kingpin to replace with a waterblock.

#

Lmfao

#

And then why is the FTW3 ultra up there for the 3090 with it's manufacturing issue in the past. :')

keen nacelle
#

i could buy a 3080 for essentially 1k rn

#

diy kit

#

ftw3

normal hawk
#

Do it

keen nacelle
#

also i think my mother would kill me

#

even though my 3060 ti going to a miner would pay for it

#

nvm, 10gb is oos alraedy anyways

normal hawk
#

😅 pssssh she'll be happy when she sees those crisp frame rates

#

Oof

keen nacelle
#

went oos when i verified it was me anyways

#

wait

#

fudge

#

its letting me go through with it

#

the dilemma

normal hawk
#

Do it SwPalpDewit

keen nacelle
#

mmmmm

normal hawk
#

You'll be like mom I'm broke but look at these crisp frame rates with RTX on

keen nacelle
#

i need someone to tell me not to not to tempt me

normal hawk
#

And she'll be like woah that's crazy.

keen nacelle
#

i cant, im going to wait for a bb drop, i like having a roof over my head

#

its absolutely tempting though

normal hawk
#

Do it. Unconditional love won't kick you out

keen nacelle
#

it is very conditional

normal hawk
#

My friend has a FE 1080 ti. Its so pretty 😍

keen nacelle
#

on the condition i dont buy expensive sh** she deems stupid lol

#

shes fine with me buying a 3080 for under 900$

#

nvm anyways

normal hawk
#

Tell her it'd help a lot with 3d modeling

#

Oof

keen nacelle
#

lol

#

i also want to buy a 1650, 1050 ti, 1050, or rx 560 for my SO anyways

#

though the money for that is going to come from mining

normal hawk
#

None if those are well priced used except on hardware swap

keen nacelle
#

on a good note

#

im now 7th for 3050 tis

keen nacelle
#

as well as where my SO lives

normal hawk
#

Better off going for a 3050 unless you absolutely need a LP card

#

Ah

lone pond
#

What is a so

keen nacelle
#

its a 3400g pre built

#

significant other

lone pond
#

Ohhh

keen nacelle
#

so ill check what it is then

normal hawk
#

Bacca have you looked at the Ayn Odin at all?

keen nacelle
#

or ill have their friends dad check

#

he knows pcs

normal hawk
#

Android gaming tablet with a snapdragon 845 in it.

keen nacelle
#

no clue what a snapdragon 845 is either

normal hawk
#

They loaded windows 11 onto it and it actually performs pretty well in games for a (mobile ARM device)

normal hawk
keen nacelle
#

what games?

#

and whats it cost?

normal hawk
#

289$ for the pro version.

#

Only 64gbs of storage which is the main issue.

#

Skyrim managed to get 30fps at 720p(i think). So about Nintendo switch performance

keen nacelle
#

wow

normal hawk
#

The Odin Pro handheld is the latest Android gaming handheld featuring a Snapdragon 845 processor. In this video, we take a look at the Windows 11 gaming performance of the Snapdragon 845 with the help of the Renegade Project. This project allows some SD845 devices to run ARM build of Windows 11 natively.

More Info: https://www.indiegogo.com/pro...

▶ Play video
#

Better Skyrim performance actually

keen nacelle
#

thats insane

normal hawk
#

Yea :D

#

It loses performance on windows 11 though for Geekbench

keen nacelle
#

any clue if 85.7w on my 3050 ti means if its 85w or 90w?

normal hawk
#

No clue

keen nacelle
#

im 100% sure its not 100w or 95w

#

im over 200pts behind first, but my core and mem clocks are higher

normal hawk
#

Is there not a way to figure it out?

keen nacelle
#

and temps are similar

keen nacelle
normal hawk
#

Oh that's lame

keen nacelle
#

normally youd be able to check on dells site

#

but they stopped selling this model of g15

#

and they cant make anything simple

keen nacelle
#

because of this

#

it gives me an option to "view product specs"

#

but its just a ton of illegible crap that ive no clue what it means

normal hawk
#

With this kinda performance just wait til windows is optimized for the M1

#

🤤

keen nacelle
#

?

normal hawk
#

If they can get this performance on a mobile arm cpu., the m1 is not really a mobile arm cpu. \

keen nacelle
#

doesnt apple lock their products to IOS?

normal hawk
#

You can dual boot on a m1 mac im sure.

#

oh my god. an m1 Ipad with windows 11 on it 😳

#

If it's even possible would be pretty neat

keen nacelle
#

well

#

apparently the max wattage 3050 ti is 80w, according to google

#

yet mine is getting slightly over 85

#

makes sense

#

thats according to notebookcheck actually

#

according to other sites, its 75w

#

confusion

lone pond
#

do y'all know where to get a 3070 in canada

keen nacelle
spare relic
#

in Canada

keen nacelle
spare relic
#

that's where they'll find them

#

in Canada

keen nacelle
#

ah

keen nacelle
#

and if its under 85w why is mine able to use over the max wattage

spare relic
#

thne number they give you is the tdp, thermal design power, which is baseline?

#

and it will exceed the baseline

#

idk

#

my 970 oesn't seem to exceed the tdp

solemn panther
#

Lmao. You're supposed to be the no bully edition, rommy

brisk flame
#

😎

gray bloom
#

does best buy sstill drop gpu?

heady turtle
#

Yes

livid idol
#

Online only lately

#

And recently some drops exclusive for their $200 membership club

keen nacelle
#

Lol, 3dmarks #1 "2060" gets more points than a 3070

#

Over 15k

#

100% a 2060, nothing else

#

It's a 3080 lmao

#

Wait

#

Nvm

#

2080 ti

#

11gb vram

heady turtle
keen nacelle
#

Idk why people bother doing that

heady turtle
#

Or like 4 2060s goldlazerkek

keen nacelle
#

Nah it shows quantity, but some of the top benches right below it are 2x2060

heady turtle
#

Ahh okay

shell mason
#

3090 comes in today boys 😁

#

So excited, got the ASUS rog strix for $1800 USD after taxes

heady turtle
#

That's a steal

pearl tusk
#

🤣

#

at those prices better work with that gpu

#

pay it off lol

#

i would

green harness
#

Still sounds like they dodged the Strix tax somehow

#

That card is normally like 400 more before tax

pearl tusk
#

nuts

green harness
#

Strix tax is unfortunate

pearl tusk
#

i bought a 1070ti 2nd hand 250 usd

green harness
#

Yeah this tbh

magic wing
#

Me getting a 150-200 euro founders edition 3060ti in a few months

#

Get on my level

green harness
#

I just got a 3060 Ti off Newegg (they've started just dropping cards again, got it Wednesday iirc) but it was like 670 pre tax iirc because Strix tax

magic wing
#

Ily pato

pearl tusk
#

200 euro is 288.66 cad

#

?

green harness
#

Did they want a Strix specifically or something?

magic wing
#

Shhhhhhhhh

green harness
#

Oh, well that's not getting it for that low price then

pearl tusk
#

i had the dough to buy one but i think i did better lol

green harness
#

Just misleading people then

magic wing
#

Don reveal me secrets

#

Nah but ill pay only 200 euro cash

#

Maximum

green harness
#

And pay like two thirds of the cost in what?

#

Ah nice

magic wing
green harness
#

Nice. I'm hoping my number gets called for the 3050 sometime soonish

green harness
#

Still paying for it then. idk people get confused enough about how pricing works without confusing em more

#

Yeah that's how I ordered the 60Ti. I tried to get the dual (like $50 less) but it went too fast

#

😮

#

I'm passing my Strix on at cost

magic wing
#

Not exactly

green harness
#

But I also don't do this as any kind of business so just passing on to a friend not a client

magic wing
#

Nope im not gonna be mining

#

Because my government no likey very much

#

He mine on it till i has enough moners to pay it off fully - whatever he gets from mining

green harness
#

Ah got it

magic wing
#

Government is gonna be cracking down on mining with a 30% tax to crypto mined and me mining to an offshore account will technically be tax evasion

green harness
#

That could take a while with how prices have been

magic wing
green harness
#

Yeah I get that. And you build PCs and such to make some money right?

green harness
#

Yeah that's what I'm saying. I basically just try to pass on cards I happen to get in low effort ways (EVGA queue, shuffle, occasional lucky drop online). You put in more time to do it consistently

#

Even putting in minimal effort I have secured a bunch of cards

#

I'm on like 5 or 6 at this point. Can't even remember anymore

magic wing
green harness
#

Nice haul

#

I'm proud I got two 3080 10gbs. But that was also shuffle luck

#

Ah, I have a "real job" so not a lot of time for a committed search and no interest to tie up capital building full systems. The MC nearest me is also far enough to not make sense

magic wing
#

Bofa us got crazy lucky with the gpus last week

green harness
#

Oh no, any idea what's going on?

#

My 80Ti is going strong. I'm a little curious if this Strix card is heavier though

#

I'll check

magic wing
#

Reflash vbois

green harness
#

What model?

#

I know the EVGA 3080Ti xc3s had an issue getting into bios over dp

pearl tusk
#

?

green harness
#

Mine still prefers to show bios on my second monitor which is via hdmi

pearl tusk
#

my gpu hdmi stops at 1080p🤣

#

dp 4k 60

green harness
#

Rommy, do any sites collect the weight of GPUs? I can only find full package weight. That shows the 60ti Strix as about half a pound heavier than my card.
I'm just curious, there's no need for this info really

#

Could be a bios issue, I think after I updated vbios the issue improved but it still prefers hdmi

green harness
#

Nice. I haven't personally used one. By the time I started getting FTW3s I already had my xc3 80Ti so I just went with it

#

Got an 80 and 80Ti ftw3

heady turtle
green harness
#

At one point I told myself the one way I would buy an 80Ti would be if I got the lowest tier EVGA one.

#

Then I got the offer to purchase the day that queue opened

magic wing
green harness
#

I had paid like 1050 for the 3080 that I passed on to my brother when I got the 80Ti and I figured it was close enough even though 80Ti value is and was bad

magic wing
green harness
#

Oh the day I bought the 60ti I also "won" the Newegg shuffle, but I let that one go due to pricing

#

Was the Aorus 70ti

#

Traveling?

#

Nice!

#

I love Berlin

#

Potsdam is close and worth it as well

#

idk what it's like now with everything though

#

🤞

pearl tusk
#

1070ti

normal hawk
#

Woah

#

There are a tons of 3000 series GPU's in bundles right now from the 3050 up to the 3090. Literally all of them. Various models too.

keen nacelle
normal hawk
keen nacelle
#

Ew

#

Was hoping it'd be like $400 with a psu

normal hawk
#

Woah. This 3070 bundle if you're building a new PC is great.

#

Spendy on the Mobo but GPU price is great

#

Could probably spin the motherboard for like, 190$ maybe?

#

Just increase the price of the card by 118$. Smh i don't want the ewaste

normal hawk
#

Imagine getting a strix 3050, 12100f. And putting the rest of the budget elsewhere into cooling, the motherboard, and so on. So it looks really fancy for no reason

shell mason
#

She so sexy, so excited

normal hawk
#

Woah

#

1800$ for the strix is crazy

#

Especially since the 12gb 3080 strix is 1600$

shell mason
#

Crazy

#

Looks legit boys

normal hawk
#

Did you also trade a GPU in?

shell mason
#

No sit

#

Sir

normal hawk
#

How the heck

shell mason
#

Will put her in now, fingers crossed

green harness
#

Let us know how it goes

#

Seems like a long time with no update though....

normal hawk
#

The 3080 I had was almost too long for the case. like the tip of the cooler is touching the end of the space lol.

#

the Coolermaster 750W PSU was really nice cause it came with shorter cables than the Corsair one I had did, so there was a lot of open area to work with. Had the cables been the same length as the corsair one the 3080 would definitely not have fit cause theres not a lot of space to cable manage lol.

green harness
heady turtle
normal hawk
#

Pato

green harness
#

Should we start taking bets on whether that 90 Strix is dead or if Nick is too busy enjoying it to let us know how it turned out?

cerulean rover
normal hawk
#

Maybe their PSU didn't have enough wattage.

green harness
normal hawk
#

Maybe it's actually a GTS 450

#

So it crashes whenever they install 3090 drivers

shell mason
#

@green harness yessir

#

she seems genuine, loading up FH5 and will be cranking to max to see

#

my case just has good airflow, I'll have to see how hot it gets under load

#

I can't either, exactly lmao

normal hawk
#

The Aorus extreme cooler on the 3090 is really good. Probably cause it's a 4slot GPU

#

You'll get one eventually rommy

#

Try r/hardwareswap

#

Lots of people are asking for strix 3090's in my area

#

Like why lol

#

Why get the strix or kingpin to waterblock it

#

That's what the Ventus 3x is for.

#

Although the Ventus 3x is more expensive cause MSI

#

Well they just want any strix

#

They are selling the white strix

#

Do they have water locks that also cool the back of the 3090?

#

Cause the 12gbs ddr6x on the back of the 3090 are not happy with the AIO Aorus 3090. (Non hybrid unlike the blower kingpin, Seahawk, or strix)

#

Ye lol

#

That Mobo came with my 3090. I gave it away to a friend who's PC caught on fire

#

I wish they had bundles with ITX boards.

#

if Asus was like, ITX B560/B550 Board and Phoenix 3060/3050. I'd buy it.

#

Most ITX cases I'd look at are all mesh so theres quite a bit of airflow.

#

oh wow, that monitor that asus is bundling with GPU's is a 360hz monitor. lol

#

Lmao

green harness
shell mason
#

not yet

#

about to, will be running 3dmark

green harness
#

What's it run at idle and full load?

green harness
#

Ah, yeah that's always hot

#

I don't think anything other than maybe a waterblocked card gets gddr6x down much

#

Hybrid coolers at least do well with the die itself

#

Wow. Why's it so hot? Is that while mining or something?

#

Yeah it should not be that hot

#

What case and fans?

magic wing
#

I didnt know I was ur FTW3 3090

green harness
#

Huh, I wouldn't have thought it'd be that hot. Maybe a particularly bad mount somehow for the vram

#

How fast are the case fans running?

#

Maybe run them faster?

#

Is there an easy way to control case fans outside of bios?

magic wing
#

motherboard software

green harness
#

hmmm, I'm looking at armory crate again and it doesn't seem to provide many good options

#

Maybe I'm on an old version though

shell mason
#

without OCing CPU or GPU yet

green harness
#

Nice!

#

I bet you can push that GPU further though

#

Will be interesting to see if you can crack 21k

normal hawk
#

Does overclocking help with game performance much? 😅 Or is it like just a frame or 2 more?

#

Also aren't we still CPU bound in most games so most of the benefit from overclocking the GPU is lost?

#

Dang ZOTAC 3080 e.e

cerulean rover
#

You'll have to do your own testing

green harness
#

At 1080p you're much more likely to be limited by your cpu

#

My PC is usually GPU bound on modern titles (5600x + 3080 Ti)

quartz gull
#

Actually can you find any examples where you're cpu bound with a 5600x?

#

I'm curious

green harness
#

1080p in plenty of cases

#

If you look at benches of intel 12th gen you'll see examples of a cpu providing more frames with the same GPU

livid idol
#

MMOs

#

Which is why I'm happy ESO has DLSS now

green harness
livid idol
#

Yeah I know. That's just an easy genre to generalize as an example.

gray bloom
#

hows 980ti on todays game?

livid idol
#

Depends on the games but in general it handles 1080p high pretty well in modern titles

keen nacelle
#

esports, max in most, if not all games, AAA games, probably 1080p medium

dusty hare
slim jetty
#

Is $750 good for a zotac white amp 3060ti?

slim jetty
lone pond
#

Yeah that would look nice

vital oriole
#

it's not bad

#

i'd get it myself if i was desperate enough

solemn panther
spark gyro
#

Would you rather have a rtx 3050 or a 6500 xt ?

vital oriole
#

3050

#

6500xt mega trash

gray bloom
#

can elden ring handle it? @dusty hare

#

or can 980ti handle elden ring at med setting

normal hawk
#

It'll be fine

green harness
gray bloom
#

its cheap

#

thats what I can say about it

#

gets the job done just for playing

#

fps maybe not the best

green harness
#

Not really

#

It's severely hamstrung by design

gray bloom
#

if u want new gen and on a very tight budget that might be the key

#

and not playing demanding games

green harness
#

Nah, a used older card is better than the 6500xt

gray bloom
#

i dont see anything cheaper than 6500xt in my area

#

1650 is way expensive here than 6500xt

green harness
#

My impression has been Rx 580s and such are generally a better but and often at similar prices. The used market differs from place to place, but I would not buy a 6500xt and I would really avoid it if I had a gen 3 board

vital oriole
#

it doesn't get the job done at all

green harness
#

It's a really bad gpu

vital oriole
#

when there's used cards for similar price

#

with better perf

#

also if you're running pcie 3.0 system