graphics-cards

[vital oriole]

ouch

poor gpu

[near dirge]

Can someone help me???

Whats the best graphics card I can upgrade to?

[heady turtle]

Well what's your budget

@near dirge talk here, what's your budget?

[near dirge]

As least as possible

I just want to play half life vr

But I only have a gtx 730 or something along that range

@heady turtle I just want to play half life vr

[near dirge]

But I only have a gtx 730 or something along that range

[heady turtle]

@near dirge can you take the side panel off your pc and dm me a picture of the inside?

[near dirge]

I hope I can lol hold on

[heady turtle]

@near dirge uhh okay so the best graphics card you're gonna get is a gtx 1650 for your pc

[near dirge]

@heady turtle and I don't have to buy anything else? Just the 1650 and plug it in? No additional power supply or motherboard or anything? Sorry for newbie questions, never got into hardware before

And you can tell all that just by looking at that?

[heady turtle]

Yeah, the 1650 just runs off of power from the slot, also I'd highly advice cleaning your pc with some canned air and if you're comfortable, repasting your cpu

[timid narwhal]

now im curious about this picture

[near dirge]

😳 I know I almost didn't want to send the pic 😔

I've never taken the side off before...

[heady turtle]

I can't tell but it has a pc smoker vibe 😳

[timid narwhal]

nah, thats just plain dust

looks dry, smoker pc tend to be... greasy

[heady turtle]

Oh true

[near dirge]

@heady turtle do you know what those are just by looking at them?

[heady turtle]

Nope

[keen nacelle]

Just got told a 3060 ti fhr for 1200 is overpriced because you can get one cheaper brand new

While yes its overpriced for a gamer but miners will pay it lmao

[vital oriole]

yep

[keen nacelle]

I have no qualms scalping to a miner

[vital oriole]

if you cant beat em, join em

[keen nacelle]

If I had a lhr card or non highly sought after mining card I'd feel bad about scalping and probably wouldn't

[heady turtle]

Lol that price hurts tho

[keen nacelle]

True

[heady turtle]

Nope only stupid models do

@sterile parcel from tpu

Well that's dumb lol

Some of them do need it tho which dumb

Like the tuf doesn't, correct how to do, but evga xc3 needs it

[near dirge]

Anyone wanna help me by telling me what an r7 is compared to gtx

Amd radeon r7*

[keen nacelle]

Ryzen 7s are cpus

Gtx are some of nvidias gpus

Well, gtx __

[heady turtle]

No there where r7 gpus

R7 270

[keen nacelle]

Ohh

[heady turtle]

R7 370?

[keen nacelle]

370

Yes

I try to forget about those

[heady turtle]

Depends what models, without that all i can tell you is r7 is amd gtx is nvidia

[near dirge]

Does that help... I suck

[heady turtle]

It doesn't, dw about it, we all start somewhere

[heady turtle]

Also they wouldn't be helpful to you because they'll need external power

[near dirge]

I was just gonna buy the whole rig

Someone told me it wasn't good tho

[heady stratus]

It's still difficult for me to explain to friends I help build computers for how basic functions of PC parts work

I was taking apart and building computers when i was 10

[heady turtle]

Nah r7 gpus are pretty old

[heady turtle]

Yeah i can be the same tbh

[dreamy dragon]

judo#8136 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

[mental garnet]

Wherw can I get? XD

[heady turtle]

eBay/Facebook marketplace or r/hardwareswap

[mental garnet]

Hmmmm

Aight

[dreamy dragon]

RandomOperations#6973 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

[mental garnet]

All these used gpus have a crap ton of mileage on em lmao

[heady turtle]

Because they're like 5/6 years old, doesn't matter tho

[mental garnet]

These prices are flipping wack

Found one for 165 but it's only a 2gb

[heady turtle]

Afaik there are no 2gb 980's

[mental garnet]

No it's a 1050

[heady turtle]

1050 is worse than 980 by a lot

[mental garnet]

Mmk

These numbers make no dang sense

GTX 1050 ti is worse than my GTX 770 (on user benchmark)

I don't understand it 🤣

[heady turtle]

!ubm

[dreamy dragon]

`UserBenchmark is NOT a reliable source of information and has been blanket banned in many hardware communities such as r/hardware and r/intel for what started as an anti-AMD bias but has spiraled into delusion.

In fact, they tried so hard to skew results in favor of Intel's midrange that they even cannibalized Intel's own high end. For example, according to UserBenchmark, the i3-9350K is rated higher than the i9-10980XE.

For a similarly convenient quick-and-dirty hardware comparison website, we recommend using PassMark instead of UserBenchmark.

PassMark CPU comparison: https://www.cpubenchmark.net/singleCompare.php
PassMark GPU comparison: https://www.videocardbenchmark.net/singleCompare.php
Want to know more?: https://youtu.be/RQSBj2LKkWg`

[mental garnet]

Gotcha

So

Something noticeably better than the GTX 770 without breaking bank

[heady turtle]

How noticeably better? 1.5x better 2x better?

[mental garnet]

At least 50% better, Im losing ability to play games smoothly lmao

I can play ready or not but it gets stuttery when bullets start flying.
Apex legends is unstable alot of the time. I have to run most of my games at the lowest settings

Only reason Im still able to run some of these on low is cuz I got a new CPU lmfao

GPU is 100% bottlenecking my gameplay

[heady turtle]

Well 980/1070/980 ti/1070 ti would be a huge upgrade, they get better as you go up the list in that order, should all be under ~300

[mental garnet]

Rn I've got a GTX 770 2gb that's a hand-me-down from my dad lmao.

[keen nacelle]

What power supply do you have?

[mental garnet]

A 550 or somethin

[keen nacelle]

That's a big part of what gpu options you can take to upgrade

[mental garnet]

I'd have to check again

[keen nacelle]

Did you recently buy it?

Or is it old

[mental garnet]

It's newer

But not super new

[keen nacelle]

I cant say for sure unless I know the exact model, but I doubt you'd have an issue with any of the gpus pato suggested

I just hope it's not Thermaltake or gigabyte lol

[heady turtle]

Even 980 ti/1070 ti show be okay on a 550

[keen nacelle]

Yeah, but I wouldn't put that stress on a Thermaltake or gigabyte psu

Most of them anyways

[heady turtle]

Yeah true

[keen nacelle]

If its even a high c tier 550 you could run a 3060 ti on it

I was fine on a 500 for a while

[heady turtle]

Only bad giga is actually pgm

[keen nacelle]

Was supposed to be a 600 gold, but we'll ignore that

[mental garnet]

Naw I won't I made sure to get a good one iirc it's a Corsair 550 gold

[keen nacelle]

Rmx?

[heady turtle]

Probably rm, rmx or txm

[keen nacelle]

Those are all b or c tiers right?

[mental garnet]

I'll have to check once I get home from work round 2, I'll let you know. I think it's a txm, it's a bit chunky iirc

[keen nacelle]

Anyways, yeah you'll be fine to run any of the gpus pato suggested and probably higher wattage ones too

Txm I think is a b tier but pato prolly knows better than I do

[heady turtle]

A

[keen nacelle]

Really?

Sick

[mental garnet]

I typed "980" and I get shown 760s

Oh hey look at that I'm green

[heady turtle]

Make sure you fitter by used if you're searching on ebay

[mental garnet]

Is that a GTX or is GTX just an Nvidia thing.

Also, would I be able to sell the 770 once I get a new GPU, or can I use it as target practice. I also have a 750ti, would that sell too?

[keen nacelle]

You can sell them both

For a decent bit in this market

[mental garnet]

Sweet. How much you think?

How much better is the 980ti compared to 980

[keen nacelle]

I forget actually

I know the equivelants of next gen

980=1060 6gb 980 ti=1070

[mental garnet]

Jeeeeeessszzzzzzz used 980s for 300+ shipping+tax, imma cry

[heady turtle]

And sort low to high filter

[thorny edge]

What a good graphics for gta fivem gameplay, I only really have around $150 for one, should I save up more or can I buy something that will work

[heady turtle]

What do you have now?

[thorny edge]

A gtx 550ti, which definitely doesn’t cut it

[mental garnet]

I've got a 750ti

That's not being used

But you could probably get something better for the same price

[thorny edge]

I’m trying to figure out what the best value for my money is

[heady turtle]

Ahh right well you could probs sell it for like $50 and get a gtx 970 4gb/gtx 980

[thorny edge]

Yeah I might do that

[quartz gull]

GTX 970's go for about $100-130 used locally here

And 960's for $80-100

[heady turtle]

When is the last time you checked market? And where do you live wonderland xD? Last month sips said 970s are trending towards 200

[quartz gull]

Weird

As of a month ago

Have they gone that much in a month?

[heady turtle]

They where more than that before hand, around $150

[quartz gull]

That's still not bad for a 970

[mental garnet]

I'm seeing 980s for 300 or more after shipping

[quartz gull]

I see one for $100 and one for $150 rn in Denver marketplace

[quartz gull]

Buying online is way more expensive

[mental garnet]

I mean even local dummy's are selling it for that much

Free pick up

[quartz gull]

I guess your market just sucks locally :/

We got 980tis for less than that over here

I guess my market is better than most

[heady turtle]

Sheesh

[quartz gull]

Yeah I figured all markets were this good

I bought a gt 1030 for $65 a few weeks ago

I gave it to a friend so he can keep trying Newegg shuffle and best buy drops for an rtx card, he bought a cheap 5800x from microcenter

[keen nacelle]

I sold both my 1030s (my brothers and my former gpus) for 60$ and 70$ (also a 1tb hdd included with the one that went for 70$) back in early is 2021

Ddr5

I tried selling them with the pcs they were in

No one would touch them lol

Entire 3470 1030 build for 125$ and no one would go near it

Tried selling the cpu+mobo+heatsink for 30$

Also nothing

Same on 2x4 1600 ddr3 for 10$ lmao

[long forge]

How much do lightly used GPU's go for? like Asus ROG Strix 3080 Ti? 4 months old?

[mental garnet]

"too good to be true probably broken" mentality

[heady turtle]

Nah you got really lucky with your scalped 3070 price too

[heady turtle]

Same as new

[mental garnet]

Real quick obviously new egg won't have heck all in terms of 980s, I just need something. Reletively cheap but better than a 770 to get me through some new games

That can be purchased through new egg. I've got some buckage through them that I can use

[quartz gull]

oh $900 is kinda pricey here, some people are selling 3070's for $850

I think it's my proximity to microcenter that may be causing this

[charred raft]

Finally prices are dropping 🙌

[honest hound]

So far i havent seen age of gpu’s effect its price unless it was mined with

[frank prairie]

is there a way to keep my fps stable it jumps from 120 down to 60 to 80?

[heady turtle]

How much you willing to spend/have in newegg money?

[heady turtle]

You're very lucky then, they'll easily go for 1.1k

[heady turtle]

No, mining with gpus is actually less intensive so that makes no sense lol

[heady turtle]

You have xmp turned on?

[mental garnet]

Like 50 bucks I think

[heady turtle]

Not worth it

[honest hound]

I understand that but for some reason people avoid cards that were mined with so sellers mark them down a bit

[heady turtle]

There's no way you could tell apart from it possibly being better maintained lol so they just loosing money then

[honest hound]

Miners in my area show off their rig full of gpu’s in the ad. They dont even want to take the gpu off their rig to get pics of a single card

[heady turtle]

If they got that many cards idk why they'd bother selling lol

[ivory herald]

Perhaps to put the sale money from a few certain older cards towards some newer ones.

[heady turtle]

https://wccftech.com/nvidia-to-unveil-geforce-rtx-3080-12-gb-graphics-card-on-11th-january/

[daring sonnet]

will it be avaiable in canada?

[quartz gull]

(X)

[charred raft]

Wdym, everyone talking about how it's cheaper now

[normal hawk]

where?

[wooden fern]

haha scalpers go brrrrrrrr

[charred raft]

Scroll up lol

980's & 16 series are way cheaper people above said below msrp

[ivory herald]

Wdym below msrp? 980 was $500+ when it appeared and shouldn't be above $250 nowadays at all

[charred raft]

Bruh @ivory herald

Scroll up

[ivory herald]

Remember 10 series itself is already 5+ years old. That's the point. Good on the 980 ti even if it's quite a bit more wattage than a 1070, still a good upgrade for anything below 980

[thorny edge]

Sitting with a 550ti, probably should just sell this and save

[idle idol]

GTX 980 ti for 250$ in this market ain't too bad tbh, still a pretty beast graphics card.

Won't see it become bad in 4-5 years.

Maybe.

[charred raft]

idk how much you can get for that lol maybe $30

[thorny edge]

I was thinking around that

[jaunty dome]

is 700$ too much for a 3060ti? im new to pc's

[cerulean rover]

Its okay considering current situation, it's not great but its not too bad

[jaunty dome]

Alright thanks

[ivory herald]

A funny thing is to think about it's overall performance vs previous $700ish cards like the 1080 ti or something . Of course, sometimes we need a new(er) card

[cerulean rover]

A good bit better than 1080ti though

close to 2080 super from last gen

[jaunty dome]

I was looking into older cards aswell, but again for an old card its still a lot of money lmao

[normal hawk]

https://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails?ItemList=Combo.4438821

The Noctua 3070 bundle is back. 1323.96$

[north flare]

my alt + z isint working i just got my pc today did i forget a driver or sum bc i cant open the overlay

[queen echo]

For how much can I sell my Asus 3090 that I have been using since Nov 2020?

[cerulean rover]

Strix? Prob like 2500

[coral kindle]

Question, is a 3080 too nuch for a i5 12600

Much

Or do they work together

[cerulean rover]

They'll do well together

[coral kindle]

Cooll ty

[cerulean rover]

although overkill in general if just for 1080p

[coral kindle]

Yeah thats fair

[normal hawk]

Use a 3080 with a Ryzen 3 3100.

[timid narwhal]

phenom ii x4 or gtfo

[normal hawk]

I wonder how it'd run with a fx 6300 NGL could try it out

[timid narwhal]

😆

[normal hawk]

https://youtu.be/n8-u2WB1yew

Someone already did it lol

[timid narwhal]

fantastic! the internet provides!

well damn. still more than playable on 8350

even at 1440p

[heady turtle]

Ofc

[heady turtle]

Ouch

[heady turtle]

Best case that's like 1k for the gpu alone

[ivory herald]

4000+ or gtfo. 😅 (eh, people missed out on tons of huge tech changes from around '05 to '15. Pc tech dad got me started.)

[analog badge]

will an external monitor increase performance if my laptop doesnt have a mux switch?

[vital oriole]

yes

[analog badge]

ok thats good

[paper yacht]

is it possible to change the graphic card in a prebuilt?

i did a bunch of research and found that the power supply is 600 watts and i'd also want to replace the ram inside as well

[heady turtle]

Yes

[paper yacht]

thanks but any recommendations the cpu i have is an intel i5-11400f

[heady turtle]

What model power supply is it?

Up to a 3060 or 3060 ti/3070 if it's a good model

[paper yacht]

model i have no idea, i'll have to figure it out

[heady turtle]

It should say on the side of the power supply

[paper yacht]

it just has a stupid ibuypower shell on it so i cant tell unless i open the case

[heady turtle]

Yeah you need to open the back panel in all cases

[mental garnet]

I love having to put off buying computer shiz cuz my car decides to do the dumb

[rich falcon]

Sad hope you buy a 3090 soon

[dreamy dragon]

RandomOperations#6973 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

[mental garnet]

Ffs. God I can't even saw "crap"

I've got alot of crap to take care of. So it can wait

Luckily parts I ordered yesterday got here today so that's a plus lmao

Can start on the car asap

[unreal sequoia]

6900XTXH*

[normal hawk]

Who made the PC? if its a Dell or HP you might have proprietary components that'll limit upgradeability

[paper yacht]

ibuypower, before you judge my brother got it and gave it to me

[normal hawk]

Ibuypower is fine.

[unreal sequoia]

Depends

[normal hawk]

So ya, I'd find out what Mobo you have (for ram upgradeability) and what PSU you have(for gpu upgradeability) You will probably be able to go to 3200mhz ram and a 3060 but not too sure.

[green harness]

A PC is a PC

We all work with what we've got to some extent or another. I hope it allows some options for you. I think their stuff isn't too limiting, not like Dell

[inner jetty]

Stop eating Avocado Toast and drinking $7 lattes

[mental garnet]

I do neither of those things

[green harness]

Why not? Avocado toast is really tasty. Not ridiculously expensive if you make it yourself either

[heady turtle]

https://tenor.com/view/boomer-alert-speaker-alarm-gif-15124610

[harsh sage]

Lenovo does the same thing

[normal hawk]

Not a lot of people buy Lenovo's compared to Dell and HP imo. at least not "gaming" desktops.

[heady turtle]

Only their office pc's, lenovo legion use off the shelf parts

[harsh sage]

True but there are a few people who game on their workstation.

I have a 3945wx, RTX A6000 for Revit and AutoCAD but I play warzone, Halo and stream on it as well

[normal hawk]

ew

[harsh sage]

why ew lol?

[normal hawk]

Gaming on a workstation

hows the performance actually?

[mental garnet]

Don't like the taste or texture of avocado

Usually if it can handle cad without crashing it can handle video games lmao

usually

[green harness]

Gotcha, that's a great reason not to eat it

[harsh sage]

The RTX A6000 has 48 Gb of GDDR6

[magic wing]

so?

[normal hawk]

Vram =/= performance

[harsh sage]

So it's roughly comparable to the 3090

[normal hawk]

in gaming performance?

[green harness]

Not really

[harsh sage]

more vram but slower

[normal hawk]

o.O

[magic wing]

and the 3060 is better than the 3080 because more vram

[green harness]

https://tenor.com/view/facepalm-really-stressed-mad-angry-gif-16109475

[magic wing]

yes

makes sense

[keen nacelle]

Obviously

1080 ti beats 3080 too

[harsh sage]

Well there's an absolute boatload of CUDA cores but suffice to say that in Warzone and Halo the RTX A6000 and 3090 go back and forth for framerate

The CPU I would not recommend for gaming or CAD the only reason why I got it is because the whole PC was on sale for something like 70% off

[magic wing]

dont swear

and avoid filter

[normal hawk]

I don't even use my 3090 for gaming. I have a separate PC just for that lol

[magic wing]

f word is big bad

[harsh sage]

As a sailor that will be most challenging

[magic wing]

at least edit it to get the swear out...

[harsh sage]

Does that make you feel better?

[green harness]

You even made it more nautical 😆

[harsh sage]

Well, I was a mechanic on a fast attack submarine

[solemn panther]

Not anymore

[green harness]

Ah, they're equal now. Just one costs more

[harsh sage]

All that being said, when the 4000 series graphics cards get released I will likely sell the RTX A6000 in favor of the 4090

[normal hawk]

Anyone going that 12 Gb 3080? EVGA priced theirs at 1249.99 😭

[harsh sage]

Nah fam, at that price I'd go for the 6900 xt

[magic wing]

soon

[normal hawk]

It was announced today

[magic wing]

yeeee but not available yet

[harsh sage]

MSRP 700 and that was a year ago... under normal circumstances that price would have gone down but unless people refuse to buy the price is just going to keep goin up

[keen nacelle]

Is the 10gb going to be discontinued?

[normal hawk]

Who knows at this point

[normal hawk]

The GA-102 is split between so many gpu's already and they just keep adding more. Which will keep shortage being active. Could be on purpose tbh.

[keen nacelle]

Same amount of dies, same amount of gpus going to the market

More gpus using the die doesn't affect that

[normal hawk]

Splitting the dies between this many GPUs which includes workstation and overpriced 3090's DOES effect how many gpu's are made for gamers.

[green harness]

It impacts the cost someone pays for GA102 that's for sure

More higher priced SKUs = gotta pay more for 3080 or higher performance

[harsh sage]

Also, if you have to have so many different processes it can lead to inefficiencies in production.

[normal hawk]

That's not even all of them. There are mining cards with the Ga102

And data center cards

[harsh sage]

Data center cards are mind bogglingly expensive

[normal hawk]

Why make the 800$ 3080 when you can make 2000$+ GPUs that'll be bought up immediately too?

You gotta chat a bit more before you can link

[harsh sage]

Facts

[harsh sage]

I was just trying to send a link to the Nvidia A100 website

[normal hawk]

Ye the a100 is crazy expensive

It's so pretty though

[harsh sage]

The workstation that they came up with uses 4 of them in a specially refrigerated system for 200k

[normal hawk]

:0

[harsh sage]

Would you like a car or a PC is the old joke but this is comparing a PC to a house..

[normal hawk]

most people get a car after a deployment or something. I built two PC's lol

[harsh sage]

Noiceee

I bought a barrel of whiskey when I left the Navy

[normal hawk]

and upgraded the PC I took on deployment 😂

I don't drink that much. except for on days that end in a y

[harsh sage]

😉

Nah, I got it because it was a startup called Nc'nean and the currency exchange was favorable. About 300 bottles worth for 3k

[normal hawk]

oh not bad

[harsh sage]

just gotta wait for it to mature

[normal hawk]

How was it?

oh its still aging

[harsh sage]

I visited the distillery in 2019 and I have high hopes

[normal hawk]

I am more of a vodka kinda guy

[harsh sage]

Well vodka has the advantage of being cheaper

[normal hawk]

ye

[harsh sage]

https://www.exxactcorp.com/NVIDIA-DGX-Systems?gclid=Cj0KCQiA8vSOBhCkARIsAGdp6RTAaeMG9YFEeyyVq3IUCxUmTqyzPGRMW62bB_MkjHcdHNrWeX4C1CgaAk6tEALw_wcB

Here is the computer I was talking about

[harsh sage]

If I ever become a millionaire I am buying one so that I can multi task to my hearts desire

[inner jetty]

You don't need to be a millionaire. We will all have one of those in our pockets in just a few years!

[harsh sage]

Not the DGX system, that's somethin else but I will agree that phones in 4 years will probably surpass current desktops

[inner jetty]

Yeah, DGX will take slightly longer

[harsh sage]

Probably 10 years. But in 10 years there should be still a desktop that costs 200k that is ridiculous in power so there's always something for either really rich stupid people or a very specific niche

[inner jetty]

It's very clearly for enterprise uses.

[harsh sage]

Yep but there was a video of a YouTuber using it to game on. I'm not really sure why Nvidia let him borrow it

[untold bison]

After a few months of the middle finger from Shuffle every weekday, finally purchased a EVGA GeForce RTX 3070 Ti FTW3 ULTRA GAMING. Was just about to give up too. Hang in there everybody, I guess it works. Still will only believe it when it arrives at my door

I'll add it was also a combo deal, but I may try and sell it off

[rustic pulsar]

it works ive got a 3060, 6600xt 3070, and 3070 ti from it

[inner jetty]

What was the $?

[sudden frigate]

Damn I have no luck. 4 months of shuffle here and nothing!

[inner jetty]

I've only done shuffle 2x. No luck yet.

[untold bison]

Card was $859 came with EVGA Supernova 750w for $159, for a total of $1,098 shipping and tax

[inner jetty]

Score

[untold bison]

Yeah, it's listed for $829 on evga.com, so can't complain too much. Wasn't what I was going for. After the first couple months I started checking the box for all. This just happens to be what I was picked for

[inner jetty]

All the things? Some 3090s on there for over $2k?

[untold bison]

Haha just not 3090, you caught me. 3060-3080 all options and combos.

I was targeting and waiting for a 3060ti only up until I opened up the options tho, for what it's worth

[inner jetty]

That's where I am. I only checked the below $700 options. No sense in wasting entries when others might actually buy them.

[untold bison]

Tbh I was starting to think it was rigged, and didn't think it mattered. I see your point though.

@sudden frigate I hope you get lucky soon!

[inner jetty]

I'm betting they pass them on to entries if the first winners don't follow through. Which makes sense for why they withhold notifications for not wining till much later.

[magic wing]

OOOOF

newegg do be scalping more and more these days

[untold bison]

That's an interesting idea, I didn't think of that. I got the notification at 2:01 Central. I had checked my messages just out of chance. I had heard people are normally notified at least a couple hours later than that

[magic wing]

getting too comfortable

[untold bison]

Newegg's price wasn't too far from EVGAs set price. The forced combo thing is pretty BS tho.

[green harness]

Congrats!!!!

[magic wing]

850 is above 3080 msrp

[inner jetty]

Is there another retailer that even does a lottery style program like this though? Hard to argue with their policies and practices when they are innovating in a way that benefits the community.

[untold bison]

Thanks @green harness I just wanted to let folks know that another one of us actually got picked

Yeah, Micro Center does something similar, but you do have to show up in person

As far as I know

[green harness]

MC does an in-person shuffle, they also do mid-day drops randomly

[untold bison]

@magic wing Right, depending what your source is though. I think a lot has been changing, and EVGAs msrp was 829

There is an interesting video on YT that tries factoring in things like tariffs, laws, etc to try and make some sense of it all

[magic wing]

great card tho! Just flip the psu on ebay or the likes and ur golden

[untold bison]

Haha you read my mind! My plans exactly

[magic wing]

hey at least they dont force gigabyte bomb psus on you through shuffle anymore

[daring sonnet]

Hi guys what is a reasonable offer for a brandnew GeForce RTX 3080 ftw3 ultra gaming LHR 10gb? im in Canada as well

[wooden fern]

should I buy? https://www.bestbuy.com/site/xfx-speedster-swft210-amd-radeon-rx-6600-8gb-gddr6-pci-express-4-0-gaming-graphics-card-black/6483929.p?skuId=6483929

[heady patio]

ive been trying to get a gpu for a while (specifically 3060/3060ti) but ive come to terms its going to be a very long time till i get one of those most likely atleast. Ive seen plenty of 6600xt's for sale, from what ive heard they are somewhat rough and underwelming. is this true

[hot folio]

If you think a 6600xt is underwhelming then the 3060 also will be

6600xt is a bit faster than the 3060

[wooden fern]

yeah facts

[uneven basalt]

Bruh I won the shuffle

I already have a decent card tho so uh this is awkward

Uh 3060 not ti tho

[cosmic bluff]

@inner jetty #3

Rules

[inner jetty]

Shoot. I forgot. Honest error.

[inner jetty]

Thanks for the heads up.

[solemn panther]

so who here is going for the 12gb 3080?

[inner jetty]

Is it under $400?

[solemn panther]

nah

[inner jetty]

If James Cameron is signed on, I'll give it a whirl.

[solemn panther]

its reported to be 400 dollars over the MSRP of 699

[green harness]

EVGA's models are 1249 and 1299, so the value is....not good

[normal hawk]

The higher end models are being priced above 1500$...which is the mystical msrp for the 3090 fe

[green harness]

Yep, my 80Ti grows in value every day

[ivory herald]

Sure wish I bought a 1080 ti (or 5) when evga had bstock for $400 a couple years ago haha.

[normal hawk]

I wonder if this will lower or raise the price of the FHR 3080

[cosmic bluff]

So I can resell 3090 for $3k and sell nah I ain't selling mine

[prisma cradle]

you guys have probably heard about the evga thing right ?

it ended up in vietnam and stuff

It makes since because the shop that was selling the GPUS weren't sourcing it from actually retailers like ASUS, MSI,... the shop basically scalp for gpus on amazon to re sell them here because most Vietnamese people don't have an international card and they hate to wait for shipping

around the globe, very fascinating (the price was really good as well it was like 39mil VND which is ~1800 for a 3080ti)

[heady patio]

thank you,

[sudden frigate]

Does anybody have experience with Radeon 6600 cards and PCIe3.? My current MB has PCIe3 and I’ve heard this series of amd cards has struggled without PCIe4.

[vital oriole]

only 2% perf impact

at least with the 6600xt

might be even less on 6600

cause 6600 uses less bandwidth

[sudden frigate]

Thx foxy. Getting tired of trying to wait for a 3060 in the shuffle. Debating on just biting the bullet and going amd.

[normal hawk]

What games do you play and whats your budget? Do you need features of Nvidia cards like DLSS 2.0 and NVENC?

if you don't stream or do 3d modeling or play games with dlss 2.0 I'd definitely look at the 6600 XT instead of the 3060 for sure.

[sudden frigate]

Yeah no streaming or modeling. Just for gaming. I play Ark, and Apex legends rn. My budget is 500-700.

[heady turtle]

3060 ti/6700xt/3070/3070 ti/6800, 3080/6800xt if you're real lucky with a best buy drop/amd direct

[sudden frigate]

I’ve never seen 3070ti, 6800, or 3080 in that price range. But yeah my monitor is 1080p with 144Hz so that is my goal for my gpu

[sudden frigate]

Thx for the tip on amd direct. Was unaware they had a queue system for new inventory.

[heady turtle]

Np, it's a drop system, there's a guide in the pins with where to get gpus

[quartz gull]

It only uses PCIE x8. Gamers Nexus did some testing, 4% average performance loss on pcie 3.0 with slightly worse 1% lows. Not the biggest difference.

[normal hawk]

Asus TuF 3080 12gb is 1499 😅 wth

[heady turtle]

🤮

[normal hawk]

That's more than i paid for my 3080 ti, not looking so bad for the price now huh? ;p

It's the only 12gb 3080 in the shuffle today. That was quick.

[heady turtle]

Ouch

[green harness]

Same, the market is crazy

[dreamy dragon]

Yasof#6850 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

[mental garnet]

Kek

Welcome back to elementary school @hoary jacinth

OOF

He gone

[dreamy dragon]

TheBagguette#6969 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

[normal hawk]

oof

[normal hawk]

Pato you gonna upgrade to the 12gb 3080?

[heady turtle]

Not unless i find a really good deal on one

[green harness]

Well your wallet is safe because that won't exist

[heady turtle]

I mean for the times

[keen nacelle]

The best gpu to buy rn is a100, 100%

Best priced gpu ever

Also the geforce 256

[ivory herald]

Gtx 660, $50.

[fading briar]

How to get 3060 ti at MSRP?

[green harness]

Get lucky

Buy a bundle (antonline often has bundles, has some now I think although idk what GPUs)

[dreamy dragon]

sʜᴀʀᴋ#1466 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

[heady turtle]

[fading briar]

Yes, but. Website's that will have it and last longer than ~5 seconds for sale. (BestBuy is a scam with the membership thing)

[heady turtle]

That's only for play stations not gpus

[heady turtle]

Did you read the guide lol

[fading briar]

I see. You're very smart and I appreciate you kind lad.

Newegg shuffle

[dreamy dragon]

Rocky<3#5715 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

[fading briar]

That's the best bet, other than microcenter.

[green harness]

Or bundles elsewhere like antonline (or even some Newegg bundles that stay in stock like the Asus Noctua 3070 one)

[fading briar]

Thank you, but also, how do I sign up for EVGA queue?

[normal hawk]

its closed

[green harness]

It's currently closed. Given past history you probably need to sign up on launch day and have elite membership and manage to queue up within an hour or less of it opening

[fading briar]

Ohhh. I see.

Well, I've been an elite member but didn't know about the whole queue thing.

[normal hawk]

I've been in queue for a 3090 for them but I don't have the money to buy it nor do I need it anymore

[green harness]

I'm in the new 3080-12gb queue, but idk if I'll have a friend who wants it

Value on it is so bad

[normal hawk]

Yeah for sure

What's the performance look like vs the 10gb 3080. Did the extra bandwidth and ~3% core increase actually do anything?

[green harness]

I don't have a good feel for that. Seems like reviewers haven't been rushing to release reviews

I would expect less than 5%. So basically margin of error type stuff

[normal hawk]

Do you think it'd be more or less of a difference between a 3080 ti and a 3090? 😅

[green harness]

lol idk, those two trade blows at times don't they?

[normal hawk]

ye

[heady turtle]

I thought you meant in physical but now i realise you mean evga

[normal hawk]

Ye lol.

[heady turtle]

No reviews yet, there was no reviewer driver given to them

[normal hawk]

oh. dang

[heady turtle]

Yeah source for that is hw unboxed btw

[neon escarp]

still working on piecing out my nephews pc parts, whats your opinions on a RX 6600? not XT

at $450-$460

[heady turtle]

Too much money

[cosmic bluff]

Fairly decent gpu but not worth that much

[neon escarp]

ok, kind of what i expected. maybe i'll consider it an option if we get closer to actually building and still dont have a gpu.
thanks

[heady turtle]

Np

Absolute max I'd pay for 6600 non xt is 400$ if very desperate

But personally can't recommend more than 350$

[neon escarp]

yeah i figured as much

i've entered the newegg shuffle these past 3 days trying to get a 3060 at $470

[normal hawk]

and then it sucks cause the 6600xt is rarely below 600$ too. Its been a nightmare ngl

[neon escarp]

which that doesn't even feel good. but i feel better spending that on the 3060 than i do on the 6600

[normal hawk]

the 6500xt and 3050 should be out in the next few weeks, you could try one of those since its for a kid anyway

[green harness]

Antonline bundles are a decent way to get a GPU for a new builder

[normal hawk]

assuming they are below 300$ of course

[neon escarp]

i had a full pc of parts for him 15 months ago...ryzen 5 2600, zotac 3070. but his mom got pissed so i had to sell/return everything. wish i would have just held onto the 3070 now

[normal hawk]

oh wow

[neon escarp]

yeah, it sucked. i had managed to get 3070s and a 3080 for myself and 5 other people.

[normal hawk]

😮

lucky

[neon escarp]

in the end, i had to return 1 of the 3070s, 4 of us are actually using our PCs, and the 3080 pc hasn't even been finished because the guy doesn't have space to put a pc (for the past year)

[normal hawk]

take the 3080 and use it for yourself, they had their opportunity

[neon escarp]

i used a gpu tracking discord and was very quick to jump on things

[green harness]

Nice, well done

[neon escarp]

wish i could, but A) it wont fit in my case
B) he lives a few states away lol

[normal hawk]

surprise visit

use it in an egpu 😂

jk, don't do that

[neon escarp]

i'm happy with my 3070. didnt feel the need to overspend on my first PC

[heady turtle]

6500xt is baddddddddddd it's pcie 4x4 which means in a system it will belong in(3.0 system) it will be pcie 3x4 which is gonna be half the bandwidth

3050 also looks meh at best

[heady turtle]

Looks equivalent to a 1660

[neon escarp]

yeah, i'm not gonna try for the 6500xt.

[heady turtle]

Don't yea good

[neon escarp]

plus asus prices leaked (for germany at least) something like 300 euro i think

the 3050 is interesting for me. especially if i can get the one directly from nvidia

[keen nacelle]

did they make an FE?

i figured there wouldnt be, like the 3060

[neon escarp]

i could be wrong, but i felt there was an image of one. but it could have just been an image and nothing more

[normal hawk]

uhhh what? Its PCIE 4.0 x4 which is the same bandwidth as pcie 3.0x8.

What Modern CPU doesn't support PCIE 4.0 since 3rd gen AMD and 11th gen Intel??

10th gen intel and 2nd gen ryzen aren't good for budget anymore. in all honesty. not with the release of the 12th gen I3.

[heady turtle]

Yeaah but it means it will suck on 10th gen/ryzen 3000 or less because it's only wired up for 4 lanes

[normal hawk]

I3 12100 + Radeon 6500 XT = budget gaming pc

not nerfing the bandwidth

and where are you getting that 3050 is 1660 performance? they haven't released any benchmarks afaik

[cerulean rover]

NVidia slides

They compared it to 1650 iirc

So extrapolate the data, about 1660

[heady turtle]

Yeah if they're buying now sure but like ehh idk I'd personally still recommend the 10400 b560 for most as b660 boards cost bit more and i feel over time as system clutters the 6 cores will be more beneficial

[heady turtle]

And 1050 ;-;

And with rt

[cerulean rover]

is sad but oh well

[heady turtle]

Big sad, amd did bad saving the 3 cents for doing pcie 4x8 gpu so it can work good on pcie 3 pc's idk maybe aibs will do it or something if they can

[normal hawk]

yeah they shouldn't have done 2 RTX games. Control and Minecraft. Then I dunno why they also picked Borderlands 3

in borderlands 3 the 3050 outperforms the 1660 by like 20fps, however thats likely to be due to 10900k vs 9900k who knows

[heady turtle]

They did not bench 1660 at all

[normal hawk]

I'm looking at 2 benches

hence the difference in CPU

[heady turtle]

What benches tho? Only ones are from Nvidia

[normal hawk]

....

NVIDIA's bench for the 3050

Techspots bench for the 1660

/).-

thats why they have different CPU's

Nvidia used a 10900k. this bench for the 1660 was when borderlands 3 was released

[heady turtle]

Techspot?

[normal hawk]

https://www.techspot.com/review/1912-borderlands-3-benchmarks/

they benched at 1080p ultra and 1080p medium but not 1080p high like nvidia did too which is meh

[ivory herald]

Does anyone test certain budget gpus with midrange cpus?

[normal hawk]

Not that I've seen 😂

its either budget+budget or Budget+Highend

well I guess I see a 1660 ti and 10400f here

Companies will always try to be favorable on the slide though. like this 3050 being paired with a 10900k. why though lol

[ivory herald]

Exactly. Tests should be a bit more realistic. Although the funny thing is now the sub-$200 12400 matches the 10900 is most games huh. Wait, that's with a 3090 usually to remove gpu as a huge factor, but still.

[heady turtle]

Am i blind i don't see a 6500xt oe 3050 here?

[normal hawk]

.....

[normal hawk]

you're blind

I said I used TWO benchmarks. Nvidia's for the 3050. and techspot for the 1660

😠

thats why they don't have the same CPU /).-

Thats the 3050 Benchmark for Borderlands 3, no rtx or dlss 2.0

[heady turtle]

Ahh you just can't really do that

[normal hawk]

I also specified that the CPU difference might explain why

[normal hawk]

If you can't "Just do that" whats the point of looking at benchmarks in the first place

[heady turtle]

Could be ram to

[heady turtle]

Need to be from same source

[normal hawk]

you'll never fully replicate someone elses system in a benchmark

so why should you go of others benchmarks

is my point

[heady turtle]

Gives you a basis

[normal hawk]

Exactly

this is all we have right now, so its a basis

When others come out with benchmarks, we'll know

you can't just say "it looks like 1660 performance" without a benchmark on your own end.

Benchmarks done on the 1660 as of right now, the 3050 outperforms it even if only by a hair. so you can't go either way.

If you can't consider this a basis comparison, then theres no reason to even use NVIDIA's slides at all to disregard the 3050. because it is a decent replacement for the market on the xx50 line up. which is what its supposed to be.

60 fps 1080p, dlss 2.0, RT cores, etc.

[fossil talon]

Im honestly buying a 3050 for fun lmao

Stick into an old PC and lets see it run

[normal hawk]

it'll be nice for small builds too.

[fossil talon]

true

[normal hawk]

so many 3 slot cards this generation.

[fossil talon]

Cant imagine 4000 series

[normal hawk]

Ikr

[fossil talon]

3-4 slot would be the norm

and then you have a 5 slot coming out of no where

Gigabyte Aorus Master 4090 XD

[normal hawk]

the 3060 ti I have was bigger than my 2070 super, and I thought that card was big. xD

the 3090 is freakin massive already.

[fossil talon]

YE

[normal hawk]

It dwarfs everything else I have.

[fossil talon]

For sure

Kinda curious if they modified the main shroud for the 3090tis coming soon

[normal hawk]

I have an Aorus extreme 3090.

[fossil talon]

Oh lmao extra thick boi

[normal hawk]

EVGA FTW3 3060 ti in my Portable PC, Gigabyte Gaming OC 3080 Ti in my gaming PC, and a FHR Zotac trinity 3080 that imma try to trade on r/hardwareswap. Since I got it in a prebuilt I need to plug it into a PC to get proof of FHR and such but I've been lazy.

[fossil talon]

I only have small ones rn XD

3070FE, and 3 3060ti EVGA XCs

The rest were traded out or resold

[normal hawk]

I might be tempted to go for a Phoenix fan 3050 for my xbox build ;3 would be nice and smol

[fossil talon]

LOL

Isnt there a 3060 Phoenix

or 3060ti

[normal hawk]

ye 3060, but its 499

[fossil talon]

Oh

hey

[normal hawk]

Hows it goin rommy?

Nice

any ice cream?

[fossil talon]

lmao

Btw totally didnt do this today XD

I call it the 3050

[normal hawk]

oh no

Keto?

oh nice

Sugar free Jello is your friend

oh wait no pork

Gelatin is made with pork now

[fossil talon]

I was about to say lol

just get agar agar

and make your own jelly

[normal hawk]

Thats time consuming

[fossil talon]

Or Im sure theres agar agar jello somewhere

[normal hawk]

Rice/noodles with chicken or shrimp and veggies?

[fossil talon]

lmaoooo

[normal hawk]

nice nice

PB&J (but preserves or somethin instead of jelly)

[fossil talon]

same

[normal hawk]

No Spicy peanut noodles?

big sad

oh nice

its good

I might make myself noodles tonight

or rice

I'm guilty of using instant ramen

I use it for the noodles

Soy sauce, veggies, egg, noodles, maybe shrimp.

I need to get actual groceries for that

😂 one day when I'm not poor due to bills

#noregrets on buying the GPU's

I'd rather stick with cheap food than not buy things on impulse

yes please

I'm not working right now. I am doing night shift tonight for the update thats supposed to come out.

[ivory herald]

Toys > no toys

[normal hawk]

10:30PM to 2AM roughly, just playing the game and making sure things function.

[fossil talon]

same with sesame oil

[normal hawk]

teach me your ways

[fossil talon]

lmao

[normal hawk]

you meal prep a lot?

[fossil talon]

I average $135

tbh Canadian groceries are expensive

and if you have kimchi, ez kimchi fried rice

[normal hawk]

nice

[fossil talon]

All my meals have rice in them too XD

I hated making sandwiches so tons of donburis and rice bowls

exactly

rice wine

[cosmic bluff]

I hear rice and I hear a recipe for tasty ideas

[lone pond]

is the 6600 for 460$ rn a good deal

i have a 5500xt and tryna play more demanding games

[vital oriole]

meh

[lone pond]

should i just try for a ps5?

[vital oriole]

getting on amd direct would be good

[lone pond]

everything is out of stock

im trying to get it before the 4th

[prisma cradle]

indomie is my go to ramen

legit dirt cheap and good

so indo food kinda good

wait why are we talking about food in gpu again

[dreamy dragon]

Kellyisverycool#3625 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

[normal hawk]

6500xt, 6600, 6600xt have no reference model. So no AMD direct for any of em.

6400 will be OEM only so not even aib's will have that one.

[vital oriole]

huh

damn that's a shame

[normal hawk]

Yeah, it's bogus

[timid narwhal]

https://www.pcgamer.com/nvidia-rtx-3080-12gb-price/

[heady turtle]

Oof, that memory bandwidth increase tho 🥵

[ivory herald]

wow, almost a terabyte/second

[ashen canyon]

Choices have been made there

[vital oriole]

bruh

[daring roost]

Where’s that original image from? I saw it from the LTT twitter account, but not sure if that’s the source lol

[ashen canyon]

Maybe Costco?

[daring roost]

It’s probably a micro center, not that I’ve been to one. But, I wonder who’s the one to take the pic.

[ashen canyon]

My understanding is that microcenter sells electronics and not food 🤷

[rustic pulsar]

Yo Vietnamese Pho gpu

[vital oriole]

that shelf is microcenter

someone must've put that in there on purpose

[daring roost]

I’d like to order some Pho with a side of 3090 tie

[ashen canyon]

It can run games at 60 phops

Lol

[dreamy dragon]

Captain_Wolf289#4203 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

[heady turtle]

https://youtu.be/dznDjLAGEZA

[solemn panther]

Smh

Wow only 5 percent faster. My prediction was right lol

[green harness]

There wasn't room for it to be much faster than that anyway

[keen nacelle]

My only question is if they discontinue the 3080 10gb

If they do a lot of people will be upset

They either have to go for less performance, overpay for more, or more likely they'll just go for amd

[green harness]

6800XTs and up cost a lot as well as the reference boards are unicorns and aib pricing is very high

[keen nacelle]

True

Most aib pricing on amd is awful

[green harness]

I would expect that supply will just be split between the 80-10s and 80-12s, so fewer people get access to 3080 performance at the current price point

[keen nacelle]

What's the fe price?

For the 12

[green harness]

The cheapest I have seen is like 1250-1300 iirc

Many AIBs are selling for 1500+

[heady turtle]

Doubt they will, they did 1060 3gb and 6gb so not foreign to them

[keen nacelle]

Should've just called it 3080 super

They make their naming more complicated than it has to be

[heady turtle]

No 3080 12gb fe

[keen nacelle]

1650 ti was a mobile chip only, and doesn't really perform better than 1650

[green harness]

Ah I missed the FE on that question

[keen nacelle]

As you said the 3gb and 6gb 1060s

[heady turtle]

They wouldn't because that would eliminate them for releasing super variant down the road, also they're keeping super = refresh more consistent

[keen nacelle]

The 1030 ddr4 and gddr5 not being named different

[normal hawk]

Does the release of the 12gb 3080 raise or lower the price of the 10GB one? ;3

[keen nacelle]

A 3080 super wouldn't fit in then

[rich falcon]

2080super for 850$ should I pull the trigger guys?

[keen nacelle]

There would be no difference in the already tiny different from the 10gb to the 12gb

[heady turtle]

https://tenor.com/view/lol-laughing-hysterically-laughing-out-loud-funny-steve-carell-gif-22904325

[green harness]

Probably won't impact it. If anything it might boost 80Ti pricing

[green harness]

Ouch

[normal hawk]

true. the 3080 I have thats not being used is FHR anyway, so its price is probably pretty solid

[fossil talon]

Well and 2 more RT cores and SMs lol

[normal hawk]

Will probably trade for a 6900xt or 3080 ti. locally.

[rich falcon]

Is it really that overclocker YouTube guy?

[fossil talon]

At this point screw 3080, wait for 4080

[green harness]

I mean if an 80 Super was 80Ti performance at 3080 pricing that'd fit in well enough I guess. Won't happen though

[fossil talon]

Nvidia just squeezing the 30s series a tad bit much

[green harness]

Huh?

[keen nacelle]

Is this their biggest series?

[fossil talon]

I haven't thought about that lol

[keen nacelle]

Meaning the most gpus in a single gen?

[fossil talon]

Maybe lmao

[keen nacelle]

I didn't until just now either

[fossil talon]

Too many cards on the same silicon

Ga 102 has what 6 cards now

[keen nacelle]

Going to only count desktop cards for this

[normal hawk]

at this point they've seen what people will pay for GPU's and this trend will likely continue

[heady turtle]

Like it matters lol

[keen nacelle]

3050, 3060, 3060 ti, 3070, 3070 ti, 3080, 3080 ti, 3090

[fossil talon]

Lmao

[keen nacelle]

3080 12gb

[fossil talon]

Next 3070ti 16gb hmmmmm

[rich falcon]

Are you this YouTube guy?

[keen nacelle]

Then you could arguably count the 2050, since it uses 30 series die

[green harness]

I am not

[keen nacelle]

Which is mobile

[fossil talon]

LMAO debauer

Legend

[green harness]

Bauer ≠ Brauer

[keen nacelle]

Pretty sure it's their largest gen ever

[rich falcon]

There is no desktop gpu called 2050

[keen nacelle]

.

[heady turtle]

Derbauer lol

[keen nacelle]

I realized after I said it

[normal hawk]

if you're going by the die, you have to count workstation and data center GPU's too.

[keen nacelle]

Fair enough

Was counting it because of the die and the release date

[normal hawk]

That's just on GA102

[keen nacelle]

0.0

[normal hawk]

Includes the mobile laptop cards too

[keen nacelle]

I've dug myself into a hole haven't i

[normal hawk]

So you can scratch those off

[rich falcon]

Tpu says 3050 will be 2% slower then 980ti how much truth is there guys?

[keen nacelle]

Im guessing 3050 around 1660 performance, because of the mobile versions performance

980 ti I think beats 1660 ti, because 1070 does

[rich falcon]

Correct 3050 acting like a 1660 means it will be exactly 2% slower

[keen nacelle]

I still find it funny that the 680m most likely will perform about the same as a 3050

[normal hawk]

If you don't need modern nvenc, dlss2.0, and (mostly pointless) RT cores and you have a decent GPU already don't get it.

[rich falcon]

Huh?

[keen nacelle]

680m is amds rdna2 apu

[rich falcon]

I thought laptop old nvdia gpu

[keen nacelle]

From what I've seen, every 6000 series apu will have the same igpu

[green harness]

I wouldn't rely on benchmarks etc until the product gets third party reviews

[keen nacelle]

It's that too

[rich falcon]

Is mine a decent gpu?

[keen nacelle]

980 ti is solid

[normal hawk]

Yes

[keen nacelle]

It can run most if not all modern titles at 60fps+

[green harness]

I wasn't talking about the 980Ti?

I was talking about the 3050 speculation

[keen nacelle]

Ifte was

[normal hawk]

Anything with lower performance than a 1050 is not decent :') it's an upgrade for those kinda people.

[rich falcon]

speculations says it is a 1660

[green harness]

I'd wait for third party reviews personally

[keen nacelle]

Yes yes we know

[rich falcon]

What is the point of 8gb vram at 128bit memory bus

[green harness]

Please tell me my gt 710 is decent

[keen nacelle]

Marketing

Also it was either 4gb or 8gb

[normal hawk]

Nah, get a GT 730

[keen nacelle]

And 4gb is a lil low for modern titles

[rich falcon]

Fps for days

[rich falcon]

There are some gt 710s with 4gb vram

[green harness]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-im-on-it-gif-8500426

[keen nacelle]

I don't think there are?

Unless someone added vram to one

I saw that on a 2080 ti

Never a 710

[normal hawk]

Didn't they spout this as an entry level development GPU? That would be the reason for 8gb of vram

[keen nacelle]

Did they

?

I didn't watch nvidias ces

[green harness]

I thought the 710 only went up to 2gb

[keen nacelle]

I was paying attention to amds more

[rich falcon]

Gt 730 with 4gb vram

[normal hawk]

They had a whole announcement about a new way to develop games on Nvidia GPUs

[green harness]

That's not a 710

[normal hawk]

That Segwayed into the 3050

[keen nacelle]

That would be a 730

[rich falcon]

It can't carry 1gb vram let alone 4 that is the point

[normal hawk]

After the laptop announcement of course

[rich falcon]

Like the 2060 12gb

[green harness]

What?

[rich falcon]

By the time all that vram is used fps will be zero

[keen nacelle]

That-

What are you talking about

[teal cairn]

Fr fr

[green harness]

There are 1gb gt 710s

[rich falcon]

Like a 1050ti vs gtx 970 both 4gb vram but 970 is clearly stronger

[green harness]

How did my joke about my gt710 turn into someone seriously trying to convince me it's a weak GPU?

[keen nacelle]

Not really

Also there's a 970 2 gig variant

[rich falcon]

Huh?

Lol

[teal cairn]

Is a evga ftw3 3060 ti closer to compare to a 3060 ti fe or a 3070 fe

[normal hawk]

3060 ti

[heady turtle]

3060 ti ~= any 3060 ti

[green harness]

Yep

Differences: cooler, power delivery

[normal hawk]

base and boost clock differences are a miniscule amount tbh

[teal cairn]

👍

[heady turtle]

Nothing you cant oc yourself anyway

[charred raft]

I've found PNY gpu's have good chips

Woops wrong @

[heady turtle]

its all random

[charred raft]

I guess rng favors me then xD

For gpu only 😔

[heady turtle]

Apart from kp cards, they're binned but just by evga

[cosmic bluff]

I got a lucky gpu with a 3090 lol with 115% pl and hitting +250 core and +1575 mem (I raised the mem last night and full success)

[quartz gull]

DLDSR is like absurd

like looking into it it's such a crazy concept

like at 1080p, it'd use DLSS at 1080p render to go to 1620p

Then downsample it to 1080p for a no performance hit near perfect anti aliasing using the tensor cores

that's such a wack concept but it's so genius at the same time

and it's driver level too, so it just flat out works with all games??

[pliant monolith]

whats cheapest gpu with 4gb minimum? using for blender... now that they require a graphics card, need to buy a cheap one while i wait for prices to adjust a bit XD

[wooden fern]

whats your budget?

[pliant monolith]

im trying to go cheapest i can really, its the only thing that i currently do that requires one. once i can save up ill go big, but that will prob be next year unfort.

[quartz gull]

Hmmm

pricing is kind of all over the place

[pliant monolith]

i guess it needx, Graphics card with 2 GB RAM, OpenGL 4.3, but recc 4gb is what iv been told by others

[heady turtle]

Gtx 960 4GB/970 are probs your best bet for absolutely min

[pliant monolith]

thanks ill look into this, if i can find one Xd

[rustic barn]

used ones on ebay

[normal hawk]

Rommy manage to get a 12GB 3080?

[normal hawk]

Nice nice

[cloud ridge]

Is this card for 620$ better than evga 1080 classified used 500$?

[quartz gull]

Kena is destroying my 3070

it's so pretty though

I'm only getting 80-100fps at 1080p XD

but it's soooo pretty like woah

[normal hawk]

Why though

[normal hawk]

well why strix specifically? its the most expensive model and 30mhz extra on the boost opposed to other models or 60mhz over lower end models isn't worth the extra money is it?

A 3090 is already a flex tho

thats fair

Newegg has 3 3090's in stock for 3000$. Sold and shipped by newegg...

sadge

Ventus 3x, MSI Gaming, and Gigabyte Turbo.... wtf

You could probably find a local trade on r/hardwareswap.

3080 ti+cash for a strix 3090.

Oh that works too

Good luck tomorrow

Very nice

I watch wegg mostly for 6900xt's now lol

[quartz gull]

THEY HAVE A VENTUS COOLER ON A 3090?

[normal hawk]

https://www.newegg.com/msi-geforce-rtx-3090-rtx-3090-ventus-3x-24g-oc/p/N82E16814137596?Item=N82E16814137596

[quartz gull]

That's absurd

[normal hawk]

it is the lowest end 3090 I've seen. basically an FE but with a ventus cooler.

[quartz gull]

Bruh the ventus cooler overheated my 2060 no heccin way that thing doesn't overheat to hecc

With how demanding these really pretty games are I'm thinking the 3070 be a 1080p card

[normal hawk]

are you playing with rtx on?

[quartz gull]

I'm half joking but holy hecc

[quartz gull]

Most games no

Like kena bridge of spirits rn

It's optimized for how good it looks. Probably best looking game I've ever played

[normal hawk]

only game I keep RT on is Forza Horizon 5

[quartz gull]

Forza is so beautiful

[normal hawk]

ye

[quartz gull]

BF 2042 I don't even notice it the implication so bad

Well scratch that I do notice it, the frame rate dips LOL

[normal hawk]

RTX is stupid in multiplayer games

[quartz gull]

I don't play much multiplayer tbh

People suck

[normal hawk]

like cod and battlefield. how often do you go and admire shadows and stuff while playing multiplayer?

[quartz gull]

Ikr

[normal hawk]

but you lose like 30% performance to enable it for NO reason.

[quartz gull]

But something like control?

crank it up

[normal hawk]

Control is a RTX Showcase. so thats why

Minecraft is the superior RTX Game

[quartz gull]

Have you guys played kena bridge of spirits? Literally the best looking game I've ever seen

But it is making work of my 3070, 80-100fps at 1080p

[normal hawk]

What CPU you got?

[quartz gull]

What CPU?

I upgraded from 8600k

Ikr

I was on 6 threads and that poor cpu

[normal hawk]

oh that makes sense

[quartz gull]

12700k = 9900k + i5 6400

You're going to want at least a 250w tdp cooler

I'mma have to go AIO

.1V under volt locked at 4.9ghz for me and am at 90C max load with a dark rock 4

You might be fine

I didn't think I'd buy a CPU that was more power hungry than a 9900k lol

So I got the dark rock 4 years ago

I do too lol

I have an 8600k, 2060, 32gb 3000 cl16, my old cooler (forgot name, gammax something) and a 650 watt PSU

And tons of extra drives

May sell it all for $800-900

And buy an m28u

[normal hawk]

What'll be the 2nd pc?

[quartz gull]

Backup PC with 3070

I feel inadequate

Ebay bad, do local

I've been buyer scammed twice

Once with a full PC

They said didn't work so I asked for return and they sent me back one of the same GPU not working (I knew it was different since it was missing stick and stripped screws)

Idk what it is with mail carriers and losing things

They lost an entire treadmill for my dad once

[inner jetty]

and Ebay seller fee is 12.5% on tech items.

[quartz gull]

Ouch

[vital oriole]

how did an entire treadmill get lost?

i don't understand lmao

it's a huge item

likely

[quartz gull]

Box was literally 18" by 30" by 66"

For the disassembled treadmill

We had to order a new one because it was lost in shipping

[lone pond]

1070ti or 2060

[vital oriole]

2060

[short jewel]

y

[vital oriole]

well 2060 is about a 1080 in perf lol

[short jewel]

...

[vital oriole]

numbers doesn't always mean anything

[short jewel]

we all joking right lol

kinda odd how a gpu that is at the 3060's performance is as good as a 1080

wouldnt you agree

[ivory herald]

Idk, not a lot for sure. I'd go 3060 ti or a 2070S/2080(S), depending on current gpu.

[ivory herald]

Evolution. Pretty similar to 1070 stomping the 980. Although, 30 series isn't exactly much more power efficient.

[short jewel]

16 series completely not worth it

especially with the used market rn

[vital oriole]

it wasn't a joke tho

2060 was like around 1080 perf

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bhLlHU_z55U

you can really see this

in some cases it's behind

so about 1070-1080

[keen nacelle]

Whenever i upgrade, if its over a 5600x, im just buying a very chunky heatsink like the dark rock 4 pro. I dont feel like dealing with an aio

Actually that begs the question (to me atleast)

[timid narwhal]

nah mate, you gotta get an AIO, all the cool kids are doing it

[keen nacelle]

How bad is an se-224xt on a 5800x

[keen nacelle]

Pun intended?

[timid narwhal]

ofc

pun is never NOT intended 😉

[keen nacelle]

Good

[timid narwhal]

bare minimum I think

[keen nacelle]

Id only buy one if I found a 3080 fe at msrp and a lapped 5800x at 325 or less

Actually nvm

I wouldnt buy one

[normal hawk]

I dunno. But my 5800x maxes at 79°C with a 240mm aio5

[timid narwhal]

Which AIO?

[quartz gull]

Is there anyone to geek out over how genius DLDSR is?

I'm floored Nvidia didn't think of it sooner

[timid narwhal]

just heard of it.