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toxic sinew
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One of the best 3090 cards you can buy

heady turtle
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It's ths overclocking binned 3090

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Probably the 2nd best followed by gallax HOF cards but they don't sell in NA

alpine drift
alpine drift
heady turtle
cerulean rover
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HOF is more exclusive

alpine drift
cerulean rover
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It's typically only really available to overclockers in Asia

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With the oclabs versions only for one of the oc competitions afaik

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And well, in general, you're not really going to find it outside of Asia anyways

alpine drift
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It says the MSI Gaming GeForce RTX 3090 Gaming X Trio 24G is the best online

cerulean rover
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Lmao no

heady turtle
cerulean rover
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MSI's own Suprim X is better than the trio, and kinpin better than both

heady turtle
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X trio is good, definitely not the best

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It would probably go something like suprim x, strix, kingpin, HOF

lone pond
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Anyone else have an RTX 3060? How how boost do you have on your core clock?

cerulean rover
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Every card OCs slightly differently, an OC that works for one person may not for the next

lone pond
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I'm still curious

cerulean rover
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Prob 50-100 most commonly

heady turtle
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What i would do is check the clocks on timespy results for 3060's

lone pond
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That's a good idea, thank you

cerulean rover
lone pond
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but it was also an icebreaker that failed to land

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I'm also curious to see if the rumors are true

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cause they have been for me

heady turtle
cerulean rover
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Maybe

heady turtle
lone pond
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getting up 2-2.1 GHz out of box with air cooling

lone pond
heady turtle
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Don't know 3060 clocks off by hand but that sounds too high

cerulean rover
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Meh, if it works, it works

lone pond
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That's boost locked so that's obvious best case scenario but she games around 2.01Ghz at about 70-74C

cerulean rover
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Can prob push memory more

lone pond
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I tried

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temps are okay, she just goes unstable

alpine drift
cerulean rover
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Sad

cerulean rover
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Doesn't matter too much for gaming

alpine drift
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Oh alright

cerulean rover
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Sure one might be 0.5% better but doesn't matter for gaming

crisp ocean
cerulean rover
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They're worse than kp and hof

heady turtle
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^

crisp ocean
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I thought they were like really good

heady turtle
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They are

crisp ocean
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I thought XC3 was probably one of the worst

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What

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OHHH

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I’m an idiot

cerulean rover
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Sure, really good, but KP and hof are really gooder

crisp ocean
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I togought the spaces were like worst two to The best two

cerulean rover
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Worst would be like ventus 2x

crisp ocean
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Worst would be Zoltacs, Ventus, XC3, and like probably FTW3

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In no particular order

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I would also say master xtreme cards are pretty high up there

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Maybe over suprim tbh

cerulean rover
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Ventus 3x is decent, but ventus 2x prob worst

crisp ocean
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I was tempted to buy a HoF but I could only find it off of a shady African website

cerulean rover
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Lol

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And well, I think suprim would beat aorus Xtreme

crisp ocean
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Hmmm

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I dunno AX is definitely top 5

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KP, HoF, AX, suprim, and strix I would say

cerulean rover
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Yea definitely up there but well, they're close nuff anyways

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Oh yea I forgot kudan

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Hof kudan kp just in a different tier

alpine drift
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Just wondering

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Didn’t know there was different 3090 cards until you guys told me 😃

cerulean rover
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What the hell is yingchi

cerulean rover
alpine drift
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It’s from china

cerulean rover
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That's just making it sound more like a ripoff

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GALAX is the company that makes the Hof cards we've been talking about btw

alpine drift
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I’ll dm u the linked group

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Link*

ivory herald
lone pond
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Where can I get a low profile 750 ti that ships to new Zealand for under 90 usd

dire coral
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would it be possible to use x2 6pin to plug into an 8pin with 4 pins being unused

toxic sinew
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No

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I mean there are 2 x 6pin to 8 pin adapters but I would not recommend using one. Does your PSU not have a 8pin?

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What PSU and what wattage is it?

solemn panther
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Hhhmmmm

dire coral
heady turtle
magic wing
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I think kudan is top of the top

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Then hof

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Then kingpin

heady turtle
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Hmm

cerulean rover
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colorful makes kudan

quartz gull
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Can we talk about how an entire rtx 3060 laptop is cheaper than scalper 3060's?

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Like that's absurd

quartz gull
dreamy dragonBOT
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normal hawk
quartz gull
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Well at least there you have a smaller card

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The 2x is like a typical length card with a crappy slab of aluminum on it that needs high airflow to not thermal throttle

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It literally needs repasting or it thermal throttles out of box

normal hawk
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True true

quartz gull
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Attempt #40 on the shuffle let's go

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I'd be so excited to pay $200 over MSRP for a card... Considering I've always went for $300 or less for cards it's crazy to think about.

ashen nacelle
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Is the asus dual for 700 dollars a good price

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On the shuffle

ivory herald
ivory herald
quartz gull
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I'm just waiting for it to tell me I've lost my 40th attempt hypertulip

ivory herald
dreamy dragonBOT
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hot kiln
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First time I see this, anyone know what that means ?

dreamy dragonBOT
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untold flicker
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Yo

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Can anyone send me a link to the 3060?

heady turtle
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i told you, stock is a laughing stock atm so no

untold flicker
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So there ain’t nun in stock?

normal hawk
untold flicker
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How will I get a gpu then?

normal hawk
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you won't be able to anymore. GPU's were banned for people who don't check the pins. its a Federal law now.

ivory herald
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Have to prove you don't mine to get a gpu now.

normal hawk
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Woah. I could sell my Non LHR 3080 for like 2k and then buy a 6900XT huh?

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tempting

ivory herald
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Nice profit.

keen nacelle
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my psu is making a rattling noise

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its in there tight

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idk how to fix it

ivory herald
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You already have a 3060 Ti though. I'm gonna keep watching 2080/S/Ti prices. I got hooked on having a 70/80 tier

normal hawk
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is it the fan thats rattling?

keen nacelle
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i think

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te one in the psu

normal hawk
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Why sell the PC parts when you could just buy one on sale or possibly fix that one?

keen nacelle
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because i still dont trust myself to build a pc

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and id have to recable manage the whole thing

normal hawk
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You'd just be plugging the cables up. your PC is already built

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ah

quartz gull
keen nacelle
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this psu is about 8 months old and it hasnt had the issue before today tho

quartz gull
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When fans wear out they can become off balance, if that's what it is you need to actually check on that sooner than later. If that fan stops working you could have big issues for a PSU

median sequoia
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What’s a good price for a 3080ti

runic crypt
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i think the lowest is 1200

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assuming msrp

median sequoia
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That’s for the founders edition?

runic crypt
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oh

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nvm

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from what i looked into other models go for 1.5k at best

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but that's still generous

median sequoia
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Yea I think that makes sense

runic crypt
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you're lucky if you could find it for 1.6k

median sequoia
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Ok 🥲

runic crypt
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i'm trying to look for a 3060 ti at the msrp

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or 50-100 above at best

median sequoia
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There’s a 3060 bundle on Antonline

runic crypt
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for how much

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i still have to focus on ram and psu beforehand

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my extra ram's coming tomorrow

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it's the same brand as my current one

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just adding it to the existing build

median sequoia
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700 plus tax

runic crypt
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oof

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what does the bundle include

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tbh that's an overpriced keyboard

median sequoia
runic crypt
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but at least it's an XC

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i found it

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thank you

median sequoia
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No problem

runic crypt
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how much does that model go for without the keyboard

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so is an XC like a Super?

median sequoia
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Yes I’m guessing

cerulean rover
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XC is just the name, it's one of the cheapest models

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It's been around 400$ on shuffle

runic crypt
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oof, it's a weaker 3060 then

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so the kb is just overpriced

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at least it comes with a modular psu and capture card

cerulean rover
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everything there is overpriced

runic crypt
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i know

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but at least it exists

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thank you for the link paulyp

median sequoia
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Yea no problem

runic crypt
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at least the modular power supply and capture card are there

quartz gull
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Cheapest you'll get a 3060ti not at best buy is gonna be like $550+ from the Newegg shuffle

runic crypt
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fortunately that $700 bundle has stuff i can make use of

normal hawk
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Why is everyone disregarding Microcenter?

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Evga FTW3 3060 ti = 529

runic crypt
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thank you for that

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it says 539.99

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but close

normal hawk
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Mine was 529 at microcenter. Maybe the price went up

ivory herald
runic crypt
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ye

wary anvil
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Microcenter is really hit and miss with their prices

severe onyx
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tbh its better to buy laptop for now

heady turtle
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It's only better to by laptops if you need the portability of one, prebuilts are the best/easiest way to get gpus atm

normal hawk
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Shuffle only has ddr5 today.

hollow heath
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What would be a fair swap for a 6700 XT?

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I miss Nvidia lmao

ivory herald
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3060 ti, but it matches the 3070 in certain games.

normal hawk
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I'd think a 3060 ti. you're losing money on it.

Maybe a 3070 if the person wants to mine but got an LHR 3070

hollow heath
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Oh ok I don’t really mind LHR tbh

normal hawk
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actually, the hashrate on the LHR 3070 is close to the Hashrate on the 6700xt lol

ivory herald
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Oops, here's the upper part

hollow heath
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So you think I can trade for a 3070 LHR?

ivory herald
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If you can, go for it. Overall better in games. Quite a bit in some.

hard wren
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I dont think anyone would do that but maybe you can find someone

normal hawk
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Either way though, unless you bought it from AMD directly you'll be losing out on a trade

hollow heath
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Well I bought it for 660

heady turtle
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Same goes for nvidia cards in nvidia sponsored titles

hollow heath
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So 3070 = 6700 XT

heady turtle
hollow heath
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Oh ok

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So I should trade for a 3060 Ti?

hard wren
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seems like a lot of trouble to get the same performance

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I like nvidia better too but I wouldnt trade away an amd card that i already owned for the same performance nvidia card

hollow heath
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Hmm ok ok but if I could trade mine for a 3070 I should?

ivory herald
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I'd say yes.

heady turtle
hollow heath
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Oh ok ok

keen nacelle
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Nvidia cards have more value in this market

ivory herald
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3060 at current prices are poor "value" to me, besides the high end cards that are $1k+. still at 1080P so of course that effects an opinion.

heady turtle
hollow heath
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Would someone trade me for a 2080 Ti?

heady turtle
hollow heath
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But if I could trade for it I should

ivory herald
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Yeah, 2080 ti beats the 3070 easily in most stuff if I recall. If prices stay like this, doubt I'll ever use a current gen gpu.

hollow heath
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Oh ok

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I want to trade but idk who would wanna

rare blade
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What’s the best gpu I can get for 600-700 stock price

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Not with the market spike so I can get later on

solemn panther
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3080

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Fe

keen nacelle
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In the US 6700 xt reference I see around 650-700, 3060 around 600

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On hws anyways

rustic barn
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anyone know the msrp for ROG Strix GeForce RTX 3070 V2 OC Edition 8GB? Ping me pls

cerulean rover
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The strix 3070 v2 oc is currently listed at 780$.

normal hawk
rustic barn
rustic barn
rustic barn
toxic sinew
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Not in stock at that price most likely but that is what it is listed at for MSRP.

rustic barn
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thanks

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it shows 1385

toxic sinew
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Correct because that is a third party seller

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Not Newegg themselves selling it at listed price because is it out of stock

rustic barn
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do they sell it?

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or will it be in a shuffle?

toxic sinew
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Newegg sells that product when it's in stock

rustic barn
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ya

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last time i saw the shuffle is 3080 and 3090s

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never seem 3070 and 3060s

ivory herald
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Day or 2 ago they shuffled a 3070 for $700ish. 3060 is the 1 I won't think about unless it was sub-$400. Top cards are fast, but 300w+ at load sometimes so perf per watt is medium.

rustic barn
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considering strix 3060 or 3070

cerulean rover
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There's always different things each shuffle

rustic barn
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this mornings shuffle is ddr5

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no gpu

ivory herald
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It's shuffle or notif when back in stock, but stock changes often & very quick.

rustic barn
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only thing u can do is really sit, watch and ready

ivory herald
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For sure. Not like a year or 2 ago walk into a store and see a dozen 2080s for normal msrp.

normal hawk
rustic barn
normal hawk
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Budget? Strix is one of the most expensive models

rustic barn
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for 3060

normal hawk
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Yeah, i got a 3060 ti for 529.

rustic barn
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nice

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when did u get it

normal hawk
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Strix = more expensive than a card up a tier.

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Early November at microcenter

rustic barn
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online?

normal hawk
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In store

rustic barn
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i will go there one day

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since i dont live in la

normal hawk
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I wouldn't set your heart on a Strix. It's performance isn't worth the price for most people over other cards of the same model.

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Especially when the price is a tier ahead almost every case.

ivory herald
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Same, mc is 7 hrs 1 way. Skip 3060 though, Ti model is a way better deal unless the nonTi happened to be much less. Even then, the 3060 overall isn't impressive imo. 30 series is somewhat power hungry also. 2070s/2080 might be a better pick than the lowest 30 series.

rustic barn
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and i dont want to go with radeon gpu

normal hawk
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Anything besides a 2x ventus or OEM card is fine.

rustic barn
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i would like to go with asus or msi

normal hawk
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The have premium models. Doesn't mean everything from them is premium

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Ugh dumb image

ivory herald
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There's a few good 3fan models. I like mine, but wasn't aiming for a strix. Almost ended up w/ a ftw3. Glad i didn't though.

rustic barn
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just screenshot?

normal hawk
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e.e i give up

normal hawk
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That's Asus. Definitely not a premium product lol

ivory herald
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Cute, lol

rustic barn
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ya

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i want to go with at least duo fan

ivory herald
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That's 1 fan though. King said strix-like haha

normal hawk
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Ventus 2x is bad.

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I'd suggest 3 fan cause most of the RTX 3000 cards run pretty hot.

Unless you need a smaller one for the case.

ivory herald
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Bottom intake & 2fan gpu would work good. Tbh haven't shopped various models lately.

rustic barn
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well for me i would say im planning on using it for like at least 4-5 yrs

normal hawk
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I have never owned a 2 fan GPU myself. But we do have a gigabyte 1660 super in the house with only 2 fans.

ivory herald
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Evga 970 was a good 2fan. As said, 30 series runs hotter.

rustic barn
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gpu take up most of the budget

normal hawk
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I had the Phoenix fan 2060 at one point though. That was gross. ran really hot. Not that the case was any good for airflow to be fair.

rustic barn
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shortage :/

normal hawk
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I did yeet it. Traded it to my brother for his 1660 super that i mentioned. After upgrading to the 2070 super i got used for 400$ including tax.

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I get it back when he gets a new Prebuilt. He doesn't want me to build his PC 😭

normal hawk
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He's getting paid pretty well now so he should have a decent budget for a PC when the next GPU's drop.

wary anvil
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As long as it's a good cooler and not a shoddy one that ventus usually has

normal hawk
normal hawk
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Ventus 2x and Asus Phoenix fan are for sure a big no no

wary anvil
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Okay, that's a reasonable life expectancy

spare relic
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With a super basic OEM/reference blower card, Asus GTX 970, what should I expect for temp improvements from repasting? I don't think it's been repasted, usually gets to 80c or a bit more under full load, blower fan card

wary anvil
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I'm assuming decent case airflow?

ivory herald
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5-8C perhaps

spare relic
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I have 2x p14s in front, one basic tt case fan in back

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Computer does need a dusting which should help a tiny bit but it's not desperate for it

wary anvil
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I'd say it's worth it then. What paste are you planning on using?

spare relic
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Not sure, I'm not a paste person lol

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I'll probably just use what's suggested

ivory herald
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Then arctic mx2 perhaps haha

wary anvil
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Nah, that stuff is mid

ivory herald
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Dang, just bought some

wary anvil
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It's fine for normal use, but if you're going through the hassle to repaste a card I'd go with the higher end stuff

normal hawk
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MX-5 any good?

hollow heath
ivory herald
wary anvil
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Used GPU? In this market?

normal hawk
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Grrr

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Fixed it

ivory herald
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Preferably not a mining gpu though. I'd do it again to step up to a 2080/S/Ti. It's all about overall performance and perf/$. New cards are not priced well these days. I've gotten lucky w/ Ebay though

wary anvil
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I dunno, even a 1060 is still going for $250+

spare relic
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970s aren't popular for mining, not much vram so from that angle

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I might get kryonaut paste?

wary anvil
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Kryonaut is good

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970 is looking a bit more reasonable

ivory herald
wary anvil
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Looks like there are some more reasonable deals on hardwareswap if you get lucky

spare relic
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Even my oem 970 is a trooper

ivory herald
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I meant 660 isnt too crazy, no new cards are very cheap unless they're old/low perf

spare relic
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Gets the job done

ivory herald
normal hawk
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What do you think is a decent price?

ivory herald
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Idk, aiming for 1 near going price of the 11600K, which is asking quite a bit. Hopefully I can get a new cpu instead of used.

normal hawk
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I guess if you are pretty far from MC, the 200$ 11600k isn't too tempting. That's what I put in the PC i built my sister with a Mobo i got in a bundle on Newegg.

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The CPU was cheaper than the Mobo 😅

ivory herald
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If only someone could mail me a cpu from MC haha

normal hawk
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Aorus Pro AX. The one with 4 m.2 slots. Lol.

spare relic
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If only MC could mail it to you 😠 😠 😠

ivory herald
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Pretty nice. I bought a mpg gaming force

ivory herald
normal hawk
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Woah. 12700k is 329

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Next PC i want to build for fun will be ITX though so i dunno if i wanna worry about cooling that in a tiny case.

ivory herald
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I guess i bid on 10gen. No biggie. 3770 is just something to fuss w/ on current pc. K one is twice price.

ivory herald
normal hawk
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Depends on the AM5 APU's vs Radeon 6400 when that releases what case imma use. I either want it in a Halo 3 Xbox 360 or Halo Xbox original.

ivory herald
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Amd is killin it w/ the APU now

normal hawk
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With GPU = Xbox original. Just Apu = Xbox 360.

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Yea.

ivory herald
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W/ inside so much for winter, thought of a series S. Idk.

normal hawk
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The series S is pretty cool. It's a glorified Xbox 360 for me though, most of what I have on it are Xbox 360 games that either aren't on PC or don't have controller support on PC.

ivory herald
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I forget howgoodthe backward compat is. Recall project gotham racing? Those would be fun. Mostly I'd use for Forza Horizon or w/e. At least adding more drive space is ez nowadays. Ssd is awesome too. My One S had a hdd I think.

spare relic
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I'm a Gran Turismo 4 scrub weggChefKiss

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Hearing Project Gotham being name-dropped I kinda want to see if I can find it

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And I want to get my GT4 emulated someday

ivory herald
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My 360 was in storage. PGR 3/4 were a couple of my favorite games for it. M.M. I played ps2 a lot & GT4 quite a bit although NFS Hot Pursuit 2 is about my fav console game. That includes old memories/nostalgia.

spare relic
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I remember a bit of hp2

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I need to get a PC cobbled together that can run it

normal hawk
dreamy dragonBOT
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runic crypt
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imagine real original/360 xbox discs on pc

dreamy dragonBOT
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glossy wigeon
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Anyone know where I can find a Geforce GTX 1660ti for under €300

dreamy dragonBOT
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uncut spoke
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Is it ok for my gpu to have a bit of coil sound?

uncut spoke
vestal panther
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Hey guys do you think this rtx 3070 is nicely priced at 983.80$

heady turtle
vestal panther
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well thats the best price i can find :/

long forge
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Hi there is EVGA FTW3 3080Ti for $2099 Canadian reasonable?

heady turtle
brisk flame
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yeah its a bit much

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not terrible tho

heady turtle
brisk flame
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bro 2100 usd for a 3080ti is absolutely terrible

brisk flame
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yeah ik

heady turtle
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so like 1600 usd

brisk flame
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you said 2100 usd was about average?

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i mean maybe in the scapler market

heady turtle
glossy wigeon
heady turtle
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~250-300

brisk flame
glossy wigeon
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And… performance?

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Compared to the 1560

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1660

brisk flame
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i just got confused

heady turtle
glossy wigeon
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Just searched it up

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1080 is €600

heady turtle
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please dont say you used userbenchmark

heady turtle
glossy wigeon
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And 1070 €250

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No I just searched it up

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And looked at the first 15 that popped up

heady turtle
glossy wigeon
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Ah ok

long forge
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Yeah so considering everything is so hard to get… it seems decent but I prefer a 3080

ivory herald
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Imagine 4digit price, couldn't me unless 500.0, 600.0 :lul:

lone pond
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Looking to upgrade my Radeon RX 5700 XT at some point in the future does anyone have an recommendations?

vital oriole
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Don't upgrade yet

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Keep that unless ya manage to get a good deal on something like at least 3060ti or 6700XT

lone pond
ivory herald
# lone pond Fair point i didn’t think about

3060 ti was originally $400-450 so keep that in mind lol. Currently for new cards, amd has better pricing/value. Nv is better for streaming but probably not tons. Indeed it's wait or get a good deal & sell current gpu sometime before it's worth crashes, but that'll be a solid 6+ months I bet. Gpu prices/supply isn't gonna quickly be fixed.

quartz gull
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I'm getting tempted with $1000 rtx 3070's again....

ivory herald
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Yikes. 4 digits should be 80 tier imo. Darn it

quartz gull
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it's either that or lose 60 more shuffles for a free rtx 2080 super

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(friend offered me a free rtx 2080 super if I don't win by my 100th shuffle)

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more like a bet

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he has won it 7 times now and he's entered only 20 times

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it makes me big angy

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how is he so lucky it makes me sad

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he doesn't even keep the gpus he flips them all!

ivory herald
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I'm gonna work on just switching up to 2080/S. $200ish out of pocket + current gpu wouldn't be too bad.

quartz gull
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2080 super is what I"m looking for too rn

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but no one has them for a decent price

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picked up a $70 gt 1030 2gb yesterday tho

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wasn't a bad deal

stoic blaze
#

you guys ever heard of

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r a m

quartz gull
#

I have 32 gb of the stuff

stoic blaze
#

1gb is enough

quartz gull
#

I use over 25 for some things I do

stoic blaze
#

thats far too much

#

you must be running windows

quartz gull
#

Yeah because I'm not running wine get out of here

ivory herald
#

Better to have too much than not enough. $40ish to double ram isn't much.

stoic blaze
#

who even needs a pc

#

when you can have

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a camera running debian

ivory herald
#

Non sense. Gaming is life

stoic blaze
#

i game on it

#

running roblox at 60fps

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with a 30hz display

dense reef
#

XFX - Speedster QICK319 AMD Radeon RX 6700 XT 12GB GDDR6 PCI Express 4.0 Gaming Graphics Card - Black

#

hello peps, im in the market for a graphics card, i was wondering if this particular brand is good its also going for $999 on best buy

vital oriole
#

nope

#

6700xt for 1k is ridiculous

dense reef
#

im not to picky on the price since its basically hard to get anything retail, but is the brand reputation any good, never had XFX

#

or would you say pre built would be better

ivory herald
#

Xfx has been around for 15+ yrs. 6700 xt should be $850ish or less

#

Yes, pre builts lately are how people get a decent value & not over pay too much for just a gpu.

dense reef
#

idk what to do honestly, like im staring at a gigabyte RX6700 XT for $959 and idk if i should get it and build my PC up or just wait

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or get a pre-built

ivory herald
#

Current gpu? Sure some new cards are fast, but double what mine cost or near 4digits just seems too much. Crappy market

dense reef
#

lol nada, buying the graphics card would be the start

supple linden
#

anyway

#

expensive gpus

#

bad!

#

stinky!

supple linden
dense reef
supple linden
dense reef
supple linden
dense reef
dense reef
supple linden
#

nah i just like hamsters

dense reef
supple linden
#

like

#

the animal

dense reef
#

lol i know,

#

they cute doe

supple linden
#

no u 😳

#

lol jk

dense reef
#

ahahahahahahah

supple linden
#

or am i 🍣

dense reef
#

unless

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pepehmmm got me

#

thinking mad hard

supple linden
#

@dense reef just keep an eye on the amd store

ivory herald
quartz gull
#

Someone needs to lock my bank account before I buy a $1000 3070 lol

#

I'm getting desperate

ivory herald
#

But the cpu gpu model numbers are so similar. 2060 be sad. I hear ya though, want to sell this sometime before value drops a bunch (& upgrade). The m27q is calling my name

supple linden
#

damn what a nerd!

#

i cant believe ur getting rid of ur strix card 💔

ivory herald
ivory herald
#

When 40% fan speed is pretty much the max I need and stay below 70C usually, we know these are good cooolers

#

Well I thought of trying out the L-shaped Evga power port thing but the ports are flipped so it's unusable.

quartz gull
#

I've always done 60 > 60 upgrades and selling my old one for like $150ish every 2-3 years

#

but this generation is completely screwed

ivory herald
#

I might edge you out, but not quite enough for 1440P I bet. Yeah, trading up is tough right now.

supple linden
#

Wrong chat

ivory herald
#

lmao. Have my old old 660 still & 970 was sold last year for $160.

quartz gull
#

I saw an $800 2080 super today. And have seen a few 3060ti's for $850-900

supple linden
#

@quartz gull a 2060 is fine for all modern games tho

quartz gull
#

I'm literally at 40 fps in some games at highest settings

#

locking to 30 fps is fine and all but maybe I want 60

ivory herald
#

1440P is quite a bit more demanding than 1080P though. Monitor is usually a longterm purchase, at least for me (so go bigger and be more content)

supple linden
#

Bruh how my brothers 1070 can run all games at max💀

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1070ti*

quartz gull
#

like forza horizon 5? that ting melts my gpu

supple linden
#

Idk how max autocorrected to bothers….

#

People still play forza games? I didn’t even know dat

ivory herald
quartz gull
#

forza horizon 5 had a bigger launch than halo infinte you know

supple linden
#

So what halo infinite is awful

#

Change my mind

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You can’t

#

Xd

#

Atleast forza games are decent xd

ivory herald
#

Fh5 wasnt a big upgrade from FH4 it seems. I'd still play FH4 if I had xbox or felt like installing it from xbox app. I never was big on Halo, but partly because I wasn't that good. Weapon damage and hit feedback was sort of odd.

little sleet
#

time to ban muffin for being a troll pepehmmm

supple linden
#

I ain’t no trol;-;

quartz gull
#

muffin is being a big troll lol

supple linden
#

@little sleet I’m gonna ban you for being a troll

#

But like the one who lives under bridges

little sleet
#

take back what you said about halo infinite

supple linden
#

I will never take back what I said

#

HALO REACH ON TOP

#

MOFOS

#

lol

quartz gull
#

Anyways, 2060 aging and it the big old and garbage and should be put into blender

little sleet
#

it was nice knowing you muffin, time for ban

ivory herald
supple linden
supple linden
quartz gull
#

chillen wanna just pull the trigger on a 3070 together lol

ivory herald
quartz gull
#

Chillen

ivory herald
#

Could mail it back n forth a week at a time or something lol

#

Shared custody for a GPU, imagine that.

quartz gull
#

I currently have a 2x ventus. My case muffles so much noise

supple linden
#

I’m pretty sure you can run multiple games off 1 pc with thunderbolt or smth so u could share like a crappy GeForce now xd

quartz gull
#

I literally don't care about the cooling performance atm

#

I just need it functional

#

bought this 2x ventus card for $225 2.5 years ago

#

been serving me well since

supple linden
#

@ivory herald have U seen the 400mm Corsair fan that gamers nexus has lol

quartz gull
#

crazy to think that I've had this card for so long

supple linden
#

It’s not a strix card so it’s now allowed to live

#

Oh god

#

It’s 8:30

vital oriole
#

lol

quartz gull
#

I usually upgrade every 2 years for gpu and 4 years for cpu

supple linden
#

Why 4 years for cpu

quartz gull
supple linden
#

Chillen hasn’t upgraded his cpu since the late 90’s 💀

#

BRO I DIDNT SAY CHICKEN

quartz gull
#

can we call him chicken now

supple linden
#

AUTOCORRECT STOP

quartz gull
#

chicken kinda funny

supple linden
#

Fixed

quartz gull
#

chillen what cpu are you looking at upgrading too eventually?

supple linden
#

10700

#

I think

#

I don’t remember I got goldfish brain

ivory herald
quartz gull
#

I saw a used 10700 for $160 yesterday

#

also a full 10700 prebuilt without gpu for $35-

supple linden
#

I saw a used 11700k +mobo+ram for $200 a few days ago

quartz gull
#

$350*

supple linden
#

Sold very fast tho

ivory herald
#

at least the cpu doesn't have pins to be damaged any more...

supple linden
#

Lol

quartz gull
#

unless you go amd

supple linden
#

I purposely bent the pins on my amd phenom ii xd

#

I was testing strength

#

Not very strong

quartz gull
#

I'm probably going to sell my 8600k + 32gb ram + mobo for $150 soon

supple linden
#

Screwdriver won the fight

quartz gull
#

obviously?

supple linden
#

If it’s decent speeds you can get like 100 alone for it

quartz gull
#

8th gen intel only supports ddr4

ivory herald
#

You know there were $1K versions of the pentium 4 called Extreme Edition. Yikers

quartz gull
#

3000 cl16 LOL

supple linden
#

Ddr3

#

**

quartz gull
#

you have an 11400...

supple linden
#

Waiting on mobo

quartz gull
#

oh

#

what're you rocking rn?

ivory herald
#

z77 which I have, or z87 is pretty much the last ddr3 (intel) platform, I think

supple linden
#

I’m using an e3-1270v2 and a 760ti rn xd

quartz gull
#

that's spoopy

supple linden
#

I got a slight upgrade I think

quartz gull
#

nah, maybe like 5%

#

won't notice it at all

supple linden
#

Yup

#

It has so many vram issues it’s slowly killing itself lol

ivory herald
#

You only went from 1GB ram to 8GB. weak.

quartz gull
#

Everyone told me that the 8600k to 12600k was wasteful but I can actually feel a difference

supple linden
supple linden
ivory herald
#

7 to 8 gen was a fairly big upgrade, then things have been small increases , at least regarding IPC (per core).

supple linden
#

I mean if U have the money ain’t no one gonna stop u xd

quartz gull
#

uhm many games were maxing my cpu lol

supple linden
#

Unless ur kenzie

quartz gull
#

6 threads is kinda bleh for a lot of games

supple linden
#

I’m using 4c4t rn xd

quartz gull
#

8700k aged a lot better

supple linden
#

Idek how much my new cpu got, i didn’t even check before buying it xd

quartz gull
#

just my 1% low improvements blow my mind

#

I didn't realize how used to stutters I was

#

faster ram and faster cpu with more threads and it feels weird

#

like turning camera in some games feels wrong now because I don't feel the freeze

supple linden
#

@ivory herald my cpu is stock 2.4ghz but u better believe that thing is going to 10 kekw

#

Jk obviously

#

I ain’t got no superchiller in my room

#

My eyes are in pain

quartz gull
#

What if nvidia doesn't even launch 4000 series

#

I don't think they even have to at this point

ivory herald
quartz gull
#

I mean the averages are similar

supple linden
#

Literally no game needs that much gpu power xd

supple linden
quartz gull
#

by my 1% lows improved by up to 50% in some cases

#

being cpu bound versus gpu bound feels so different

supple linden
#

I can’t even look at my minecraft cat without dying atm

#

Cus like

#

I load into minecraft

#

And I’ve already used 98% ram

#

Lol

quartz gull
#

Turning the camera in minecraft doesn't drop cause weird frametimes aymore

#

but that could've also been the jump from 3000mhz to 4000mhz ram

ivory herald
#

I'm glad i tried apex legends because it's the 1st game I have that really stresses this cpu. It's enlightening watching the cpu usage stick at 100% certain times.

quartz gull
#

oh just wait until you try a cod or a battlefield title

#

I remember when I booted modern warfare 2 years ago and went

supple linden
quartz gull
#

ITS MAXING MY 8600k?!

#

downclock a kit actually

supple linden
#

Why doe

quartz gull
#

I bought viper 4400mhz 8x4 for $100

#

so $25 a stick

supple linden
#

cl19 has entered the chat

#

Lol

quartz gull
#

my memory controller literally can't handle 4 sticks

#

I'm running at 4000mhz cl16 atm

ivory herald
#

nah I've played MW2 and all previous similar ones

quartz gull
#

I meant

#

the reboot

#

the modern warfare that released 2 years ago silly

supple linden
#

Fun fact I’m in bed rn

#

Dying

#

Of idiocy

quartz gull
#

I spent 2 days trying to get 4400mhz to boot but it would only do it for 2 sticks

#

I'm in bed on my tablet with a keyboard rn

supple linden
#

Gamer moment

quartz gull
#

Samsungs book cover is so great

supple linden
#

Bruh 20mins and it’s 9am

quartz gull
#

EXCEPT IT DOESN'T HAVE A KEY BACKLIGHT

#

0/10 stars

#

0/5 eggs

supple linden
#

I really cannot be bothered for Christmas tonight

#

Today

#

Same thing

quartz gull
#

wait perfect excuse

#

this $2000 3080ti I'm looking at can be a christmas present to myself

supple linden
#

You can get some 3090 for that price xd

#

Jk

#

Snort jeff bezos ball hair maybe he’ll just give u one

#

Worked for me

quartz gull
#

I want a 3090 for the vram

supple linden
#

Who needs 24gb of vram xd

quartz gull
#

I want 4096 x 4096 textures in minecraft

#

uses 20gb of vram at 1080p 6 chunks

supple linden
#

Do it at 4&

#

4k*

#

Prolly - FPS

#

1

quartz gull
#

what's funny is even at 4k you can't even see every pixel of the textures

ivory herald
#

3080ti/3090 need some strong PSUs . no budget, 3080 non-ti is probably my pick actually

quartz gull
#

I am planning on buying a 1200 watt psu eventually

#

one with a 10 year warranty

#

And never touching the damn thing ever again

supple linden
#

Ima get 2-3 hours of eye close (not sleep) cus my brain is hurting

ivory herald
#

oh yeah. multi core left, single core right. Couple new laptop cpus have badass single core performance.

supple linden
#

Bai creatures of the internet

quartz gull
#

I thought 650 watts would be enough forever but noooooo

#

my cpu has to pull almost 200 watts at peak

ivory herald
quartz gull
ivory herald
#

6 times my score w/ 2.5 times the cores, that's an upgrade

quartz gull
#

oh chillen so windows 11 scheduler breaks sometimes

#

and just uses my ecores until I restart

#

so I tried playing games on it

#

it's basically an i5 6400

#

that's added to an 11600k

ivory herald
#

ew. I'm good w/ Win10 for now. Still deciding on which start menu to use though.

quartz gull
#

It still plays games decent on just the ecores

#

I think ecore only I'm still faster than your cpu

ivory herald
#

Probably a bit.

turbid stream
#

hi is an i5 10400f good with 1060 6gb asus?

quartz gull
#

Overkill

ivory herald
#

it's a fine pair though. Zero cpu bottleneck isn't a bad thing, lol.

quartz gull
#

I think he/she was talking about bottleneck but idk

#

10400f is one of the best budget cpus

#

especially when microcenter discounts them to $110

turbid stream
#

holy 110

ivory herald
#

MC is 7 hours 1 way!!!

quartz gull
#

Yeah. The denver microcenter did a $110 sale

#

didn't get it though

turbid stream
#

is 3200mhz 16gb ram enough?

ivory herald
#

C16?

quartz gull
#

I got the $70 10100f instead

#

$70 for a 4c/8t cpu was decent. I threw in a 960 into the build, called it an esports rig, and gave it to a coworker

quartz gull
turbid stream
#

b560 pro 4

quartz gull
#

it only supports 2666mhz on b460 I believe

turbid stream
#

asrock

quartz gull
#

ah b560 is fine

#

b560 allows memory overclocking

turbid stream
#

is it max 3200 on 560?

#

b560

quartz gull
#

nah

#

I think you can overclock as high as the memory controller will let you

ivory herald
quartz gull
#

I was about to say

#

up to 4800mhz

#

keep in mind the memory controller on most boards will probably explode if you attempt that

ivory herald
#

Apparently mobo isn't really a ram speed restriction, per se. Price perhaps is

quartz gull
#

my 12600k + z690 can't even do 4400mhz quad dimms

#

also 10th gen runs in gear 1 so I don't think you're getting over 3600 anyways

ivory herald
#

So w/ 10th gen Tulip, you'd say 3600Mhz and just as lower CL as possible?

quartz gull
#

yeah

#

unless you're willing to do memory controller nonsense

#

like overclocking the imc frequency and stuff to match higher ram

ivory herald
#

The faster ram is priced much higher anyways. PLus, we've seen 3600+ ram only does so much for general performance.

quartz gull
#

depends if your cpu can be fed from it

ivory herald
quartz gull
#

like some games that are more cpu bound can use ddr5 6000 to its full extent

ivory herald
#

Use? Idk, a few reviews lately show ddr5 barely passing certain ddr4 kits. I'll have to double check how old the reviews are.

quartz gull
#

I think hitman 3 was one of them

#

I think there was like a 15-20% gain, it was really strange how much so games gobble it upp

#

Eh. ddr4 4000 is going to be more than enough for me on alderlake

#

It's close to base ddr5 spec

#

also I hate that people compare latency for ddr5 to ddr4

#

ddr5 has split banks so it can access 2 streams of data at once

#

which basically makes it like comparing clockspeeds between generations

ivory herald
#

anandtech used DDR4-3200 CL22
DDR5-4800B CL40 for the 12900 testing

quartz gull
#

ah base ddr5 is a bad test case

#

that's like doing base ddr4 2400

ivory herald
quartz gull
#

Actually lets go look at real latency times really fast

#

I'm curious

quartz gull
#

first word ddr4 3200 cl16 is 10 ns

#

lets see ddr5

#

ah 16ns for cl40

#

there is a bit more latency for base spec

ivory herald
quartz gull
#

ah good ddr5 kit

#

6000 cl36 is 12ns

#

that's pretty close to ddr4 3200 cl16

#

which is 10ns

#

latency isn't that far off as ddr5 progresses, even if the cas latency terrifies people

ivory herald
#

Yeahthat's the funny thing. Close actual latency, but still get that much higher bandwidth which seems quite helpful in numerous things

quartz gull
#

much higher bandwidth depends if the cpu is bound by it

#

alderlake is hit or miss, not powerful enough to be bound by it

#

it's like how 6th gen intel was fine on ddr3 1600

ivory herald
#

plus, anand used CL22 ddr4...

quartz gull
#

cl22?!

#

wtf that's over jdec spec??

ivory herald
#

It's bad when their ddr4 has worse latency than my plain old 1866 at CL10. (I assume)

quartz gull
#

way worse

#

and they're using jdec 4800??

#

jedec*

#

that's gross

ivory herald
quartz gull
#

Realistically if you're buying a ddr5 12th gen board

#

you're buying good memory

#

you're not buying a ddr5 board to put crappy ram in it I don't think

ivory herald
#

That was Nov 4th btw. With ddr5 prices, I'd for sure get a ddr4 mobo like you did

quartz gull
#

Why would you spend $200+ for a z690 board

#

probably $400+ for an i7+ cpu

#

and cheap out on ddr5

heady turtle
quartz gull
#

wait is it really?

#

there's no way it's that high

heady turtle
#

Yep

quartz gull
#

that's ridiculous

ivory herald
#

oh it is, they mentioned it haha

quartz gull
#

That's ABSURD

ivory herald
#

isnt jedec meant for super compatibility, mostly?

heady turtle
#

More super reliability

ivory herald
#

not arguing, just sort of a fitting gif. Edit. "morning" pato. afternoon?

quartz gull
#

Do you guys think in 5 years the 3050/ti will feel like that gtx 1050 2gb? useless due to vram limitations?

heady turtle
#

No idea

quartz gull
#

Like a 2gb card can't even run games at low 1080p anymore

ivory herald
#

uhh, is it 4GB? well yeah, perhaps.

quartz gull
#

laptop variant is

#

we presumably know the final bus width of the desktop 3050. It has to be 4 or 8gb

#

like how the 3060 had to be 6 or 12

ivory herald
#

Many modern games sure are demanding. Pushes more gpu sales also. If only we still needed just a Crysis-level PC

quartz gull
#

they may push it for 8GB ig

#

I don't see them launching a desktop 4gb card do you?

ivory herald
#

no, not anymore besides a 3040 or something

quartz gull
#

They'll probably pull a 3060 move then

#

where they planned on 6, realized that would get them destroyed PR wise and slapped 2Gb chips in there instead to give it 12

ivory herald
#

idk how cheap Vram actually is. They could just do a 6/8GB min on everything incl the lowest models

quartz gull
#

well the problem is the bus width kinda determines how many chips there has to be

#

like the 2060/3060 HAS to have 6 chips

ivory herald
#

True. things got funky w/ the 1060.

quartz gull
#

so they just use 2gb chips and bam

#

12gb instead

#

if nvidia launches 4gb versions though

#

they'll be available closer to msrp

#

4gb is too little to mine crypto off of

ivory herald
#

4gb really would be plenty for certain models, but price better correspond. Enough of this $500+ bs & no cheap cards

quartz gull
#

it's like how the rx 580 4gb sells for $100-150 less than the 8gb model rn

#

because the second one you can mine with

#

Honestly I hope intel has some really good 75 watt cards

#

the 1650 is getting older

#

I need cards I can slap into an optiplex a

ivory herald
#

Noticed the sort of wattage war? but not towards no power port, instead we've got 300-400w cards. tbh part of why I like the 2080 or similar is seeing how much performance we can keep getting at 200ish watts. my 1080 only hit 200w when oc'd a bit. It's normally 150-160 ingame, even at 1900Mhz

quartz gull
#

2080ti I can run on my current PSU

#

that's why I got a 650 watt psu

#

i5 + high end gpu would never surpass it I thought

ivory herald
#

good to know. same

quartz gull
#

BUT NUH

#

i5 have to be pulling 9900k amounts of wattage now

#

3090 be pulling like 350 watts

ivory herald
#

well those 12 gens can pump out power when the turbo/clock is upped so much

quartz gull
#

yeah 250 watts on a 2080ti...

ivory herald
#

techpowerup used

quartz gull
#

THAT IS A REASONABLE KIT

#

like no more ddr5 4800

ivory herald
#

literally same day as anandtech review for the 12900, wtf

quartz gull
#

you don't see me using ddr4 2400 too bench ryzen lol

#

yeah ddr5 6000 was out on launch day...

ivory herald
#

LuL. all dem ports

quartz gull
#

So I been thinking of this april fools video

#

from earlier this year

#

and realizing it's closer and closer to being true

ivory herald
#

and they used CL 16 3600 also

quartz gull
#

the 4090 had a PC power plug with the video outs so you didn't need a power supply for it

#

because it had to pull 1000 watts

ivory herald
#

4090? also: woo, good thing I only game. I'd wish I went 12gen.

quartz gull
#

Yeah 12th gen made me pull a cpu upgrade trigger

#

watch that video it's really funny

ivory herald
#

blender: 700 barely beats ya

quartz gull
#

the end of the vid made me crack up laughing

ivory herald
#

oh, literally april fools haha.

quartz gull
#

yeah

#

when they showed the 4090ti I laugh so hard

#

I wasn't expecting it

ivory herald
#

The fan setup man. People here mentioned 4 fan cards. 3fan seems like pretty much the best for now though.

#

umm, where's the mobo? lul

#

sucked in the pepsi can....

quartz gull
#

I love how he designed the board for the teardown to literally have the built in PSU

ivory herald
#

well tthen

quartz gull
#

Reinforced PCIE slots?

#

how about 4 inch thick tank armor steel pcie slots

ivory herald
#

made w/ adamantium

quartz gull
#

LOL

ivory herald
#

posted in gen chat

quartz gull
#

lol

ivory herald
ivory herald
vital oriole
#

ddr5 2400

prisma cradle
vital oriole
#

way slower

#

latency is much worse right off the batt

#

heck it's not better than ddr4 2400 lol

prisma cradle
#

wait is there a ddr5 sodim ram yet?

vital oriole
#

no

magic wing
#

No

vital oriole
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there's no mobile platforms with ddr5 yet

rotund merlin
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any gpu for msrp on the site

heady turtle
dreamy dragonBOT
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Smoms_caca#0838 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

snow fox
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I think my new 3060 pre built is broken

heady turtle
snow fox
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When I turn on the computer it bugs out and then turns off

heady turtle
snow fox
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The screen gets covered in lines and boxes

heady turtle
rustic pulsar
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Reinstall drivers?

snow fox
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I can’t even get to windows

rustic pulsar
snow fox
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I checked that already

rustic pulsar
snow fox
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It’s from abs and has a white 3 fan rtx 3060 with a ryzen 5 5600x and 16 gb of ram

rustic pulsar
snow fox
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Ok

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I tried taking the gpu in and out

supple linden
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Try a different display cable

snow fox
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I did

supple linden
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Reseat ram for the lols

rustic pulsar
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If u have another gpu try to put it in see if it works

supple linden
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Also try putting the card in a lower slot just in case, may aswell try

snow fox
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I don’t have another gpu and the there is only one slot on the motherboard

heady turtle
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Make sure the power connecters are in properly, clear cmos and reseat ram if you cannot eve get into bios

snow fox
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Ok

supple linden
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Clearing cmos isn’t just taking the battery out*

rustic pulsar
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Push the power connectors in you should hear a click

supple linden
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Just saying cus alot of people just take it out and say they cleared it

heady turtle
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Take the battery out and unplug pc from wall

supple linden
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And short the pins

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They’re somewhere on ur mobo 😳

heady turtle
bronze tundra
dreamy dragonBOT
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Lekkren#6151 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

supple linden
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no naughty words >:((

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lol

bronze tundra
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f word

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fantasitica

supple linden
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lol

normal hawk
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Uh what Newegg?

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This is some sorta joke right?

bronze tundra
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no

normal hawk
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MSI raised the price of their 3090 again? 🤣

bronze tundra
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yer

toxic sinew
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That is exactly scalper pricing

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awesome

lone pond
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still waiting for the day a mf can get a gpu at msrp but it’s so far fetched now3080pet

fossil talon
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Wait til 4000 series lol

ivory herald
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Things won't change much. Miners don't sell cards much, but there might be 10/20 series owners upgrading.

lone pond
ivory herald
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2fan when 3 would fit, bruh, lol. 3050 or 3040 really makes me think of the 1050 or 1650 w/ how 50 series and below compares to 60 series and up.

keen nacelle
lean trout
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can someone help me

keen nacelle
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with what

lean trout
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games keep crashing
and my pc keeps crashing
my graphics drivers keep crashing
ive uninstalled and reinstalled them
and it didnt fix anything

keen nacelle
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what gpu

lean trout
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and i need help

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3060ti

keen nacelle
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have you tried a previous verson of drivers?

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also is your pc blue screening?

lean trout
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no, would that help though?

keen nacelle
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or just randomly shutting off

keen nacelle
lean trout
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I play a game for a few minutes, then the graphics glitch and rainbow color dots flash, then the PC shuts down.

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so its not blue screening

keen nacelle
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have you overclocked at all?

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are temps fine?

lean trout
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i dont think so

keen nacelle
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sounds like it could be an issue with the memory

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maybe a faulty module or smthn

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you could RMA it

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id reccomend trying previous drivers tho

lean trout
keen nacelle
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no like

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gpu memory