graphics-cards

[vital oriole]

i mean if i was a company

[fossil talon]

and another the following week

[vital oriole]

i would do it too lmao

[livid idol]

Tis the season

[vital oriole]

more money

more profit

it ain't illegal

[fossil talon]

[vital oriole]

cause it's technically "better"

just worse in actuality

[fossil talon]

Then you got mining on quality gaming laptops

[vital oriole]

yep

those poor laptops

stressed 24/7 basically

[fossil talon]

I mean some of them have a higher hash than my mining rigs

I still cant comprehend a gaming laptop with a 3070 getting 67mh/s

[vital oriole]

haha

[fossil talon]

Traded the majority of my stock. Kept 3 3060ti EVGA XC and my first 3070FE

Also have a 12900k and 12700k lol

[vital oriole]

i just want a 3070 laptop

[fossil talon]

Waiting for more ddr5 to come out though

[vital oriole]

that's not lowest tgp that is

[fossil talon]

lol another one

[vital oriole]

but if it's given for me for free

any 3070 laptop works

[fossil talon]

Anyone wanna troll and try to get the "new" 2060 12gb var

Noice

[vital oriole]

it's 2060s in cuda

but worse vram

sus

[fossil talon]

I was about to get my hands on a third 3080 Vision, but I didn't have the energy to drive to the store

oh and a 3080ti Vision

LOL yes

Market for me has died a bit

There's a guy selling 12 Asus Tuf 3060s for about $500 mark up, still hasn't sold a card since Sept

[livid idol]

I'm pretty sure the only people that'll buy the 12gb 2060 are desperate people and miners

[fossil talon]

"it has a better mining cause 12gb"

Im like, "NO"

Lane speed> amount

[livid idol]

Right, miners that don't know better I should say lol

[fossil talon]

Gotta think when to sell my remaining cards to get 40 series

That being the FHR 3060tis and not the 3070

Imma keep jumping the 70s lineup

eyeing the 4070

[neat karma]

steal

[livid idol]

Same, I'll hold this FE for at least 3-4 years

[fossil talon]

Yea thats why Im keeping my 70FE

[normal hawk]

I wonder how soon my work will get new GPUs.

[fossil talon]

Oh I did end up getting a 3080FE last month from a BB drop, ended up reselling to my roommate

[livid idol]

Especially with 4090 looking like it'll have 500W limit (600W max OC)

[fossil talon]

1000W PSU min time

[livid idol]

Especially with the 12th gen Intel sucking 300W

[fossil talon]

yep

[livid idol]

1200W recommended for spikes and overclocking

[fossil talon]

I really wanna try this 12900k but again DDR5 is impossible to get rn, and I wanna see higher clockspeed enabled boards in the future

[cerulean rover]

can't wait for those spikes

[fossil talon]

On my boxing day list ig

[cerulean rover]

likely spikier than ampere

[livid idol]

So far the fastest DDR5 I've seen is 6000c40 or something

[fossil talon]

Gotta love those charts

[fossil talon]

Yea gotta wait a bit til we'll see higher

[cerulean rover]

TPU did 6000c36 in their testing at one point

[fossil talon]

Damn

[livid idol]

Yep, waiting for 8000c40 until I consider it

[fossil talon]

Same same

I just have 12th gen through trade deals

[cerulean rover]

oh its a 6000c36 xmp kit

[livid idol]

Even that kit is only like 5% better than a good 3600 16-16-16 kit

[cerulean rover]

yea, but maybe tasks will become optimized to use more bandwidth

[livid idol]

I don't see that happening in the gaming space, not with direct storage on the horizon

[cerulean rover]

fair but we'll have to see, maybe something that'll offload more from l3 into ram

[livid idol]

Imagine an expandable L4 cache you can upgrade with a simple chip swap

[normal hawk]

Imagine the rDNA 2 Apu's with cl40 8000mhz ram

[livid idol]

Oh yeah that'll be NIIIICE

[cerulean rover]

sounds p neat

[crisp moth]

Howdy my parents are thinkign about grabbing a pre built pc with a 3060 in it or something close to it and taking it out and giving it to a family member as a gift and have the remaining parts for another project. Is this a good idea? Considering that christmas isn't too far away and we refuse to pay scalper prices.

[brisk flame]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

just get them a new pc

lol

but yeah, that works

not a joke, there was a point where people were buying up all the prebuilts and scalping the gpus out of them

[crisp moth]

Oh my

[brisk flame]

fun times

that was a long while ago tho

like at the height of the shortage/demand spike

[crisp moth]

Ohhh my

I wouldn't think it is too profitable now

[brisk flame]

yeah not really

most of us here actually suggest people get prebuilt systems anyway

[crisp moth]

But um dumb question, I personally have barely looked into pre builts at all but producers that build pre builts cant like tamper with the gpu or anything right?

[brisk flame]

so your plan is reasonable

[crisp moth]

sweet

[brisk flame]

they have no incentive to

[crisp moth]

Fair enough

[crisp moth]

so considering we would mainly be using the gpu for now I can go on amazon or something and find the "cheapest" pre built I can find with whatever gpu I can pretty much find

[brisk flame]

wouldnt waste my time with amazon

use newegg

or microcenter

amazon is

and thats a fact

[crisp moth]

Fair enough

[livid idol]

Just avoid dell and hp prebuilts like the plague

[crisp moth]

Got it

that was my next question haha

[brisk flame]

https://www.newegg.com/abs-ali525-master/p/N82E16883360130R

[livid idol]

They use proprietary parts so you'd have to swap the motherboard and power supply if you wanted a better case (and you'd for sure want a better case)

[crisp moth]

Gotcha

well thank you

[crisp moth]

I have question, I found a prebuilt with a 3060 for 1300 and it says, "brand may vary" the brand doesn't exactly matter correct?

[brisk flame]

brand doesnt matter

whats the one you found?

the one i linked is only 60 dollars more

[crisp moth]

https://www.newegg.com/abs-ali564/p/N82E16883360194?Item=N82E16883360194&Description=3060 prebuilt&cm_re=3060_prebuilt-_-83-360-194-_-Product&quicklink=true

I believe same brand different model

with a i5 10400f

[brisk flame]

yeah, the one i linked is 60 more, but gets you much more valuable parts

double the SSD, 10700 over 10400, and some wacky EVGA streaming deck you could easily list on ebay for like 40 dollars or smthn

https://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_from=R40&_nkw=EVGA+XR1&_sacat=0&_sop=15&rt=nc&LH_Sold=1&LH_Complete=1

eh, sells for like 30

[crisp moth]

Alright and the one you linked isn't used or anything right?

[brisk flame]

thats still free money tho

[crisp moth]

Yea

[brisk flame]

nah its the same seller

[crisp moth]

oh okay

fair enough

[brisk flame]

anything sold and shipped by newegg is fair game

avoid 3rd party sellers tho

[crisp moth]

Gotcha

Alright gotcha and open box isn't a big deal right?

[vital oriole]

open box is fine

[brisk flame]

yeah its newegg selling it, so open box is chill

[crisp moth]

alright thank you

[ivory herald]

dang, I just got a couple packages a day early, lol.

[vital oriole]

https://videocardz.com/newz/nvidia-geforce-rtx-2060-12gb-official-specs-are-out-2176-cuda-cores-and-185w-tdp

nvidia confirms it

[timid narwhal]

yay?

[ivory herald]

Basically a 2060 super w/ 50% extra ram for no reason. eh

[vital oriole]

slower vram tho

idk how much will that impact it yet

need reviews

[timid narwhal]

so, 3060 just beats a 2060S, correct?

[vital oriole]

yeah

right around that mark

[timid narwhal]

so, this new 2060 will set between there? or will it sit bewtween the 2060 and 2060S?

[ivory herald]

^

[vital oriole]

it sits between 2060 and 2060s

cause the vram bus width is the limit

192-bit instead of 256

there's also rumors of 3050

which should sit below 2060 refresh apparently

[timid narwhal]

and where will that fit in?

omg

[vital oriole]

it'll likely have 8 gigs vram

it's to compete with intel's upcoming stuff

[timid narwhal]

but that means average frame differences will be in single digits.

[vital oriole]

yep

[ivory herald]

Anything using 10+ GB of Vram wouldn't be fun on a 2060, especially w / that neutered mem bus.

[vital oriole]

nvidia doesn't care about that it seems

anything to fill in the market lmao

2060 refresh clearly is them caving in for the sweet money

people will buy it like hot cake

[ivory herald]

yep, supply is pitiful right now. A few high dollar cards aren't cutting it perhaps.

[vital oriole]

yep

they can make a bunch of old stuff instead

with a twist to change things up

probably cause of it being what's available to em

[timid narwhal]

and the price of the new 2060? I bet it will be higher than the original 2060S

[ivory herald]

Could easily do a something w/ the big dawg 1080 Ti or 2080 Ti, lol. ray tracing isn't a concern to me. Even the psu usage isn't that bad, especially undervolted a bit. I've been locking my voltage as various points to record the max wattage

[ivory herald]

of course.

[timid narwhal]

Nvidia and AMD are just, swimming in revenue... just Scrooge McDucking the f outta life right now

[vital oriole]

original 2060s?

nah tbh

it'll overlap 3060's msrp

nvidia would set lower msrp

but im sure it's gonna go over that anyway

considering market rn

[timid narwhal]

exatcly

[ivory herald]

https://tenor.com/view/what-the-hell-is-going-on-max-carter-the-oval-what-is-happening-what-is-going-on-here-gif-22833907

[vital oriole]

hey at least with 2060 refresh comin

it might murder the 1080 market

and give us 300 bucks 1080 again

[ivory herald]

https://tenor.com/view/no-bugs-bunny-nope-gif-14359850

not yet, lmao. let me know so I can sell this 1st and maybe make $20 on it. Don't even care if I have to turn around and put it towards a $500+ 2080 or w/e. Heck, should I just go ahead and list it around some places for $500ish?. gtx 660 backup

[empty mountain]

is it a good idea to buy a 3060 12gb for 20$/month

[timid narwhal]

20 what?

how many months?

[ivory herald]

rubees? sure

[empty mountain]

i think 36 months

[timid narwhal]

that works out to $720 for a 3060

[empty mountain]

yeah \

[ivory herald]

If no extra fees. Not bad, but not great either. Actually, doesn't seem right for a 60 series.

[empty mountain]

oh nvm it's 1.2k in 36 months...

[heady turtle]

How, if it's 20 a month, it's 720 after 3 years

[empty mountain]

it was for 60 months

i didn't checked it

with fees

[timid narwhal]

lel. no dont do that

[empty mountain]

never

by then prices will drop

i hope

[timid narwhal]

60 months is 5 freakin years

2 generations of cards will have come by then

[empty mountain]

yup

and id finish collage by then

3060 is great, but 1.2k for it f*ck that!

[silver fiber]

hey guys i have a question i was thinking of upgrading my pc's gpu from a gt 730 to a quadro t400 and i have a 230volt power supply

soo will it be possible to upgrade it without changing the powersupply

pls reply

[silver fiber]

also is it worth upgrading it

[timid narwhal]

do you intend to game with the quadro, or is it for media produciton?

[silver fiber]

idk both??

[heady turtle]

What wattage? Voltage isn't how power supplies are measured

[silver fiber]

idk dude it was custom but the guy who made uit did not say the wattage it came with the pc case lmao

[heady turtle]

You can check it will say on the power supply

[silver fiber]

k

i think it's atleast 300w cus a gt 730 need a 300w psu i think

https://www.fingers.co.in/computer-peripherals/pc-cases/ascend-c3
i think i found the case here's link

i cant find how much watts the psu has

[heady turtle]

Can you take off the side panel and take a picture of it?

[silver fiber]

it's a fingers polonium-400

[timid narwhal]

excuse me, a what?

[heady turtle]

Uhhh

I wouldn't trust that with more than a gt 730 tbh

[silver fiber]

i think it's trustable

https://www.fingers.co.in/computer-peripherals/smps/polonium--400 i found it's listing

it's a 450w psu

soo will the t400 run in it?????

[timid narwhal]

I wouldnt trust that PSU

[silver fiber]

Polonium-400
High Efficiency
Polonium-400 SMPS is a mini PS3 SMPS that delivers similar and stable performance as in case of Gamma-401. It is designed for the ultra-small size Cabinets, which is now trending.

[empty mountain]

@silver fiber how much does it cost?

[silver fiber]

17.90

$

[empty mountain]

yeah screw that

go for a good brand rather then some cheap a$$ unknown garbage product that could screw your whole build

[timid narwhal]

https://www.moglix.com/fingers-polonium-400-atx-switching-power-supply/mp/msnv5ooqlr0056

found it on special for $12

[silver fiber]

....

i dont actually play like AAA games. The games i have r mc roblox and cs go

and crab game

[silver fiber]

dude fingers is a known brand in inda

[empty mountain]

idk i never heard about it

[silver fiber]

so i added a t400 and a corsair 450watt psu

[magic wing]

Csgo is aaa

[silver fiber]

oh....

[ashen nacelle]

https://www.bestbuy.com/site/evga-w1-series-600w-atx-12v-eps-12v-80-plus-power-supply-black/8511029.p?skuId=8511029&ref=212&loc=1&extStoreId=597&ref=212&loc=1&gbraid=0AAAAAD-ORIjYcQfZkf2tIkfpX7f-xEOOo&gbraid=0AAAAAD-ORIjYcQfZkf2tIkfpX7f-xEOOo&gclid=EAIaIQobChMIxN_xpOrH9AIVmZOzCh2v_AgUEAQYASABEgIiv_D_BwE&gclsrc=aw.ds

[silver fiber]

...

[ashen nacelle]

Just get that it’s only around 30 dollars

[empty mountain]

cs go is a AAA from 2012*

[magic wing]

Aaa is aaa

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/870518246686752798.png?size=48

[empty mountain]

AAA is Aaa

and Aaa is aaa

[magic wing]

Csgo is still very much triple a

[silver fiber]

wait does the t400 work in a 450w psu

[cerulean rover]

w1 burns itself smh
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=60jVEwq44ZU

[ashen nacelle]

Hmmm

[empty mountain]

nah, cs go it's made by a indie company that can't afford to make a decent anti cheat

[cerulean rover]

valve

[silver fiber]

i added a corsair 450w psu that's 80 plus and a t400

[cerulean rover]

Which Corsair PSU

[silver fiber]

Corsair CV450, CV Series, 80 Plus Bronze Certified, 450 Watt Non-Modular Power Supply - Black

[cerulean rover]

CV450 is the very cheap and low end

see if you can get a cx450 at any reasonable price

[silver fiber]

it's 80 plus

[cerulean rover]

so?

that's just an efficiency rating

P-GM is 80+ Gold and literally blows up

[silver fiber]

oh

[empty mountain]

@cerulean rover so a legal c4?

[cerulean rover]

Sparks everywhere :)

[silver fiber]

no they're out of stock

[empty mountain]

yeah that's why i'm worried about that brand @silver fiber wants to buy from

[ashen nacelle]

I chatted with a Best Buy customer service person and asked about the 3070 which I know about and they said it restocks on Friday, even though it literally restocked yesterday

[silver fiber]

there is one but it's 11,000 rs

[cerulean rover]

At least try to get like a evga bq or br or ba, those tend to be cheap

[silver fiber]

im buying from corsair this time

[ashen nacelle]

How much you willing to spend on a psu

[silver fiber]

idk below 199.62$

[cerulean rover]

Under 15,000INR?

[ashen nacelle]

Uh

[silver fiber]

yea...

[ashen nacelle]

You can get a lot of psus for that amount

[silver fiber]

but i also am gonn a buy a t400 with it

[ashen nacelle]

Oh I see

[hollow shadow]

you can easily get a good PSU for $150

[silver fiber]

guys is a Cooler Master MWE 450 Bronze V2 230v, 80 Plus Bronze Certified, Non-Modular Power Supply (Black)

good

[cerulean rover]

@silver fiber try
https://mdcomputers.in/antec-ne650-gold.html

mwe v2 has some issues with ripple at low load that can also cause coil whine so not the best but well, its okay

[cerulean rover]

or try this for a bit cheaper
https://shop.clarioncomputers.in/product/xpg-pylon-550w-psu/

[silver fiber]

wait this one is kinda good and i found it on newegg

[cerulean rover]

Newegg shipping prices sucky for non-US

[silver fiber]

ok

what about GIGABYTE GP-P450B 80 Plus Bronze Power Supply

nvm one guys in the reviews it caught on fire the GIGABYTE GP-P450B 80 Plus Bronze Power Supply

[cerulean rover]

very meh

Well, it was barely above the blowing up tier so not too unexpected

[ashen nacelle]

@cerulean rover what graphics card do h have if you have one

[silver fiber]

what is a good psu that comes under 53.23$

[cerulean rover]

@silver fiber This is 4700 INR

And is decently good

[silver fiber]

k

[heady turtle]

@magic wing is fingers known brand in India??

[magic wing]

I have never heard of it

Ever

[heady turtle]

[magic wing]

Whats fingers

[heady turtle]

Ehhh thats not a psu you should be buying tbh

[heady turtle]

the one in my old pc, now in bros, and other one in dads pc although not getting near the wattage limit

[heady turtle]

I'd rather it over "fingers" psu tbh 👀

[silver fiber]

imma can cel the t400 for a gt 1030 cus well it fit's with my budget

[heady turtle]

Are you sure, i think you've got some on your hands

[magic wing]

I have toes on my hands

[heady turtle]

[silver fiber]

Umm I'm going with the t400 it's much cheaper

[fervent heart]

Has anyone been able to do NVLink (SLI) on an ASUS Z690 with two 3090?

[heady turtle]

You will be able to but no point doing it for gaming fyi, you just need the nvlink bridge

[fervent heart]

Thank you for all your replies, they are very helpful.
Gaming is pointless for sure, I'm mostly benching for 3Dmark etc. and to look good with water cooling.
I'm currently running 3090 NVLink (SLI) on an ASUS Z370 APEX, so I do have an nvlink bridge.

[heady turtle]

Ahh

[normal hawk]

Pato. Radeon 6400 will be sub 75 watts 😅

Wonder how well it'll perform

[heady turtle]

Where's Radeon 6500 first lol

[normal hawk]

6500xt and 6400 should both launch in January I think I read

[heady turtle]

Lol taking their time

[normal hawk]

https://wccftech.com/amd-radeon-rx-6500-xt-january-rx-6400-march-launch-rumor-entry-level-rdna-2-navi-24-gpu-4-gb-gddr6/

nah 6400 is March

[heady turtle]

Be cool to have a new 1650 competitor i guess

[normal hawk]

6400, the 3050(Non Ti) and the lowest end of the intel GPU's are all in the same range iirc

[heady turtle]

If nvidia releases it lol

[normal hawk]

but only the 6400 is sub 75watts

[heady turtle]

Nvidia is gonna be like the 3050, 2 months later the 4060 xD

[normal hawk]

Phoenix Fan 4050 sub 75watts. just for the ITX builds. please Asus

[keen nacelle]

Theyre really gonna be missing a bit of the market if none of these are low profile imo

I think the 3050 and 6400 both should be atleast

[normal hawk]

6400 is low profile.

[keen nacelle]

That's good atleast

[normal hawk]

the only low profile GPU since the 1650, cause I don't think the 5500xt was low profile, was it?

[keen nacelle]

Idts

And that's why I think they should be

It's been so long

There's gotta be a good few people who need them

[normal hawk]

SFF builds are very common. there are a lot of cases now that can use full sized GPU's in them though

[keen nacelle]

True

[normal hawk]

I want one for a console replacer however.

[keen nacelle]

But heat is an issue pretty often from what I've seen

[normal hawk]

Either imma use an AM5 RDNA2 APU, or imma get a low profile GPU like the 6400. at this point im leaning more towards the apu

[keen nacelle]

Prolly similar performance I'd guess

Hi

I haven't had the time to get back on it

[normal hawk]

if I go with the APU, I bet I could figure out how to fit a custom liquid cooling set up inside the Xbox 360 case. or just an AIO tbh

just for the lols

[keen nacelle]

Life decided to say f you and I haven't really had any free time/time where i could enjoy it

I think so

I haven't downloaded anything in the oculus app

I'll check later but I think so

[wraith jungle]

I've got a weird one and I'm not sure if I should write it off to "black magic" or not. My Step-Up with EVGA finally went through and I popped an old 750 TI into my desktop as a placeholder while the trade in is processing. The computer won't POST past VGA unless only an HDMI cable is plugged into the 750 TI. Once booted into Windows everything works perfectly fine, but if I am trying to boot off the Display Port it just refuses to go past POST. This card is perfectly functional otherwise and dual monitors is fine with the HDMI and DP ports fully operational once into Windows. Any thoughts?

[heady turtle]

If you've tried different cables then probs dodgy port

[wraith jungle]

But as soon as it boots into Windows it works perfectly and on the last computer it came out of last month it worked just fine.

[mellow bough]

Hello
does ASUS ROG Strix XG32VC have G-sync?

[livid idol]

It's freesync premium pro, so it'll be gsync compatible and should be a decent enough variable refresh

[mellow bough]

would it be compatible with rtx 3080 and allow me to use gsync with it

[heady turtle]

Ye

[mellow bough]

ty

[empty mountain]

is this a legit offer https://www.ebay.com/itm/403142120830?_trkparms=amclksrc%3DITM%26aid%3D111001%26algo%3DREC.SEED%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D20180816085401%26meid%3D339b38c8e65a4da9a16fce5ebb349dc2%26pid%3D100970%26rk%3D1%26rkt%3D4%26sd%3D403142120830%26itm%3D403142120830%26pmt%3D1%26noa%3D1%26pg%3D2380057%26brand%3DGIGABYTE&_trksid=p2380057.c100970.m5481&_trkparms=pageci%3A01434404-54fc-11ec-a55c-b24818a1b51b|parentrq%3A855fc9a317d0ad333aff4811fffe7594|iid%3A1?

[heady turtle]

Looks a bit pricey

[orchid mason]

You’re better off looking for a 970 at that price

[empty mountain]

fair enough

[spare relic]

does look like a legit offer tho

[orchid mason]

I found a 970 for $250

[spare relic]

eugh

[orchid mason]

ikr

Or a different 960 for $185

[livid idol]

If it's at least a 4gb model that's not horrible. Still a little high but them's the times.

[spare relic]

I'd buy the 165 960 ig

need to build a pc for my brother at some point

[opal iron]

2gb vram though 💀

[ivory herald]

Usd? Wtf , bought & sold my 970 for $160ish. Of course, that was nearly a year ago.

[keen nacelle]

Awww, I'm so sorry

Must be so tough

[livid idol]

Also good news is scalper bots may soon be illegal

The law is drawn up

[opal iron]

[fossil talon]

Yea

It was fun when it lasted

[true wren]

they should have been illegal as soon as they started popping up, but how are they going to enforce that

[normal hawk]

It won't change anything

If it's a fine, people making money off these bots will just raise their prices to pay the fine.

Fines only stop the poor from doing things. For the rich, it's just a fee to do things.

Also, who's going to report bot usage? If the stores could they wouldn't process the sales anyways. Most don't want bots on their stores in the first place.

[livid idol]

Enforcement will be the hard part for sure

[normal hawk]

Nearly impossible.

Websites don't have a good enough bot detection. The law won't change that

Think of this like speeding tickets, except for worse.

Poor person gets caught speeding, the fine can actually hurt them.

Wealthy person gets caught speeding, they pay the fine and move on unphased.

Issue is, poor people aren't the ones buying up like 20+ ps5's to resell. Then you also got to prove that the wealthy person used a bot in the first place.

[pine stump]

i want to overclock my gpu a little more. how can i do this?

[rustic pulsar]

use msi afterburner

[pine stump]

i dont have an msi card and i have a gigabyte mobo

[rustic pulsar]

it still works

https://www.msi.com/Landing/afterburner/graphics-cards

[pine stump]

ok done

now wat

[rustic pulsar]

also download MSI kombuster

ill hop in a vc with u if u want

[pine stump]

oh i have 3dmark

demo

[rustic pulsar]

Use Kombuster

[mental condor]

who is good with computer and can help me trouble shoot my ethernet

[pine stump]

ok

done

now what

@rustic pulsar

[pine stump]

WHEN

[rustic pulsar]

sorry I was eating dinner give me a few minutes

[pine stump]

its cool

[rustic pulsar]

oki im redy

@pine stump

[pine stump]

me to

[rustic pulsar]

ok join vc 1

[sharp trellis]

Not really a urgent but curious question, all the youtube vids I seen with 3060Ti in it has two 8x Pin connectors in

while my 3060ti has one 8x pin connector

[keen nacelle]

Mine only uses one

[normal hawk]

Mine is 2

[sharp trellis]

I have no idea why some 3060tis get 2, some get one

[keen nacelle]

whats your max power limit?

outta curiosity

[sharp trellis]

and what is difference between their watts pull?

[keen nacelle]

i doubt its huge

[normal hawk]

I dunno tbh. Haven't used the PC it's in

It's an EVGA ftw3

[keen nacelle]

thats around 240w at 100% usage according to google\

gonna check mine

225w according to this

[normal hawk]

Why sad

[frank fox]

I am looking at older gpu to buy to build a pc, which brand would be better rtx 500 series or RTX 16 series?

[vital oriole]

uh

gtx you mean?

[cerulean rover]

Confusion

[cerulean rover]

What specific models

[frank fox]

I was looking at 560~580 for Radeon stuff and 1650 super and 1660 stuff for RTX

[cerulean rover]

Neither of those are RTX

[cerulean rover]

Rx560/570/580 are just Radeon cards, and it's a GTX 1660, none of them get dedicated hardware for ray tracing

And in that case, it'd depend on a case to case basis, mainly concerning price

[fossil talon]

In CAD

Includes sli bridge

Kinda tempted lol

[ivory herald]

Just the gpus though? Eh, going rate tbh. If whole pc, great deal.

[dim iron]

For the current market that isn't bad

[ivory herald]

I forget how well those cool anyways. For reference, Asus Strix barely hits 70C in most games w/ sub-30% fan. 👍

[heady turtle]

Sli is dead and price is meh, you'd be better off getting a 3060/6600xt

[fossil talon]

Oh ik, I'm just buying for fun lol

It's not for me using as my mainstream pc

More like a side PC

[heady turtle]

Ehh then just get 1 gpu lol

[cosmic bluff]

I might do another 3090 but sadly it wont increase the maximum texture size i am attempting with ai upscaling with photogramatry

[winged minnow]

do i need an rtx card for dlss 1.3 or will gtx work

[vital oriole]

dlss requires rtx card, so no

[lofty crane]

is a rx 570 8gb good for £360 ?

[spare relic]

hm,m

no

:)

[lofty crane]

second hand

tho

[spare relic]

even more no

[lofty crane]

why?

I thought it was a great deal

it was at my local shop cex

@spare relic?

[heady turtle]

Awful

[heady turtle]

Cex has terrible value 99% of the time

[spare relic]

I think even ebay uk has bad value

probably prices for the uk in general

there might be a facsimile card that's cheaper but idk

[magic wing]

Absolutely not

It's worth 200£ maximum

[heady turtle]

https://www.ebay.ie/itm/MSI-Afterburner-GeForce-GTX-980-4GB-/185197810226?mkcid=16&mkevt=1&_trksid=p2349624.m46890.l6249&mkrid=710-127635-2958-0 I'd get this instead

Or something like that

[spare relic]

bid 😔

I didn't klnow msi put afterburner branding on their gpus 👀

there's probably better prices on offerup or somehting

[heady turtle]

Not a thing in the UK

[spare relic]

https://tenor.com/view/disintegrate-gif-22469816

so or something then

lol

surely craigslist and facebook marketplace

[heady turtle]

Facebook marketplace but majority of it is crap

[spare relic]

isn't that with everything tho 😔

ig the bid 980 is a good bet

[lofty crane]

https://www.awd-it.co.uk/gigabyte-nvidia-rtx-3060ti-8gb-gaming-oc-pro-v2-graphics-card.html

I'm looking at this

good?

[heady turtle]

Decent price

Bit on the more expensive side but that's how it be these days

[lofty crane]

Ill prob get that next year

[heady turtle]

Then no point looking now

[lofty crane]

I just don't know the prices if they are good or bad

so I came here to ask

[heady turtle]

Market will have changed by next year so ¯_(ツ)_/¯

[lofty crane]

The prices might go down

bc of the 40 series

[ivory herald]

Estimated date for 40 series? Gonna attempt a change to 20 series for "cheap".

[livid idol]

Not even officially announced yet, so late 2022 at the earliest

Q3 if we're lucky

[normal hawk]

Which 20 series?

[grim frost]

I want a 2080ti, 40 series should make it a lot easier cause the card will be 2 generations behind at that point

[normal hawk]

I mean is the 1080 ti at a good price point?

Shortage won't be over until late 2022 at the earliest. So we'll still be in this situation.

Scalpers will still be doing scalper things. Gamers won't want to take losses on cards because of increased prices so they'll try up charging too for old cards.

Your best bet is having a friend like Rommy who buys and sells at the price they paid for it. 😅 And just trying to get a current gen card.

[cosmic bluff]

Or like me who just gifts every corner left and right

[ivory herald]

Ok, good

[ivory herald]

Hah, yep. 1080 ti was more reasonable 6 months ago when I got this, now both are $450+ or $600+, respectively (2fan minimum for me). Rommy comment: I bought and sold my old 970 for $160ish. Sold it too soon huh.
--20 series? Almost any 15+ % upgrade, 2080/S/Ti preferred, maybe 2070S/Ti. 1080p now but someday 1440p.

[spare relic]

a 1080 non ti is about the same performance as a 2060

20 series was a decent leap from 10

[ivory herald]

True overall, at least at older prices. Honestly it's closer to 2060S last I saw, or too close for me. I wouldn't side-grade like that. 1080 is good enough on power. I should hunt now for a 20 series upgrade, then sell this asap before prices tank.

[spare relic]

no sidegrading is silly lol

I hear of people with a 1070 upgrading to a 2060 or something, it's an improvement but even then I wouldn't

[ivory herald]

Exactly, the whole 70-60 or 80-70 comparisons. Nowdays wattage as crept up also at all levels. Yep. 970 was cheap & sold in person, but I wonder where I'd end up selling this.

[keen nacelle]

Without dlss it's closer to a 2070

[normal hawk]

Always depends on the game

[runic crypt]

Would it be practical to repair a 3060?

voltage inject

[toxic sinew]

Depends on what is broken on it, most things you would not be able to fix yourself

[keen nacelle]

depends on how bad it is

[runic crypt]

if the issue is the fans

or heatsync

[toxic sinew]

Either of those issues are pretty easy to fix

[runic crypt]

could i replace specific aspects

[toxic sinew]

You should be able to find replacement fans on ebay

[runic crypt]

or find them if someone gives me a broken 3060 with some stupid luck

what about just the card

how much does just the card go for

[toxic sinew]

Or if the heatsink is badly damaged you could buy an aftermarket cooler like an arctic if they still make them

[livid idol]

I'd be shocked if a heatsink was the problem. It's literally a block of metal.

[runic crypt]

dust could be that

but i'm hoping the fans could be the issue

[toxic sinew]

Well what is the issue?

[runic crypt]

if i find one in "poor condition"

i'm asking if i should look for one

before trying for a new

[toxic sinew]

Oh you mean look for a broken one and repair it?

[runic crypt]

yeah

hunting

[toxic sinew]

Usually not a great idea unless you know what the problem is with it in specific

[livid idol]

Doesn't hurt to look, but make sure you're not too disappointed if the repair is beyond your tool set

[runic crypt]

i learn extremely quiccly

yeah

[toxic sinew]

Even then as I said before theres really a limit you can do to fix a GPU

[runic crypt]

voltage injection?

would that be a fire hazard

[livid idol]

How's your micro solder skills?

[runic crypt]

i know a guy

who won't charge me

as long as it's not a modchip

[livid idol]

Ooh nice

[runic crypt]

close friend

i don't have him over as often as before because he's also condescending

[toxic sinew]

I would not suggest taking a risk on something like that though unless you can return it if you are unable to fix it

[runic crypt]

okay

i'll try to hunt for one offline

before using ebay again

[livid idol]

Ebay is a big risk because you don't know how many different people tried to repair it

[runic crypt]

exactly

those likely went through several people

or if i get really lucky i find one that someone doesn't care for

[toxic sinew]

Most people on ebay just say it's broken and most likely dont know what's exactly broken about it

[runic crypt]

right

so hunting at estate sales seems more practical

[livid idol]

Or they do know what's broken and they either can't fix it or it's not fixable

[runic crypt]

yeah

and they don't tell you

[toxic sinew]

I have seen people get lucky and buy "broken" GPUs that were completely fine and it most likely was a power cable issue in the sellers system but that's rare

[livid idol]

Yeah definitely an anomaly

[runic crypt]

yeah glitches

[hot folio]

I wouldnt really try repairing a card because often times parts to repair them are extremely hard to find and/or who knows how many people tried to repair it

[runic crypt]

Never mind that... but is ShopBLT a good source for otherwise rare parts?

[toxic sinew]

Yeah but usually they have everything backordered

[runic crypt]

Oh, okay. Seems that they don't charge until the item ships.

At least it's reliable to work with.

[runic crypt]

Is a 1050 Ti for $200 a good deal right now?

Or is that too much?

[heady turtle]

God no, you should be easily able to get a 970 for that much, possibly a 980

[runic crypt]

i’ll look for a 970 or 980

thanks for the help there

[ivory herald]

Or 1060 6gb, but for some reason those sell for a bit more than a 970 and/or 980. Everyone look at this wack 1080 price I just saw, $119 more than I paid.

[heady turtle]

It's because it's newer and just seems better

[ivory herald]

Mhm, 1070 is also often near msrp. That's why I said F it & went for 2nd place 😅. Gonna list mine when I get a chance & hunt for some xx70 or higher that's 15+ % better.

[serene cairn]

is anyone good at computers cause i want to make mine better but im stupid at pcs

[magic wing]

!ask

[dreamy dragon]

https://dontasktoask.com/

[dense owl]

We have an iBUYPOWER - Gaming Desktop - AMD Ryzen 3 2300X - 8GB Memory - NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1050Ti 4GB - 240GB SSD + 1TB HDD. My son is an avid Fortnite player and is asking for a new graphics card to improve performance. What would you suggest for this PC? It was also suggested that we increase the RAM and CPU.

[cerulean rover]

Well, a lot could be better for that PC, what kind of budget do you have? @dense owl

[dense owl]

Under $1,000

[cerulean rover]

Well, that's enough to practically start over, which I would probably suggest for a start, to grab a new case, PSU (Going to assume old PSU isn't exactly the best), and new Mobo, ram, and a CPU. That'll probably take around 500$ out of the budget, which the rest of the budget would go into trying to get a good GPU

[heady turtle]

What's your question/what you wannna do?

[cerulean rover]

@dense owl you're in the US and using USD, correct?

[dense owl]

@cerulean rover yes

[cerulean rover]

Do you have a certain time in the future you want to do the upgrade or do you want to do it now?

There's a decent speculation regarding to upcoming CPUs being good on the relative budget end (12100 and 12400 rumors), alongside anticipation for AMD's next generation of chips, whatever they may be called, Zen 3d, Zen 3+, or Zen 4

[cerulean rover]

As an example of what I am saying, but this could very easily change as the market changes in say 2 days, or if any new parts come out. To add onto this, any GPU will work, best case scenario, a 3060ti at MSRP of 400$, but hopefully at least a 3060 for something near 400$. There's definitely still places where you could save on some things in this list, but this is a start, everything chosen has a reason, if you have any questions, I can help you.
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/3Bp3fP

[dense owl]

@cerulean rover Thank you so much - this would be for a Christmas gift

[heady turtle]

I'd grab a 50$ set of 3200cl16 instead if they don't wanna oc tbh

[cerulean rover]

10$ doesn't hurt, but yea, that's why I said there's still stuff where you could save some on

[heady turtle]

Fair, unless they want the rev e for oc i don't see much point getting ballistix tbh tho :p

[cerulean rover]

that is exactly why :p

Having the ability to do some mem oc if they ever want to is nice

even if just having fun, they can just set freq to like 5000 and auto timings and have it work (maybe)

[heady turtle]

Yeah but it's more of an advanced thing

[ivory herald]

A $220ish 12400 would be a hot seller, maybe it would be 6P2E? Wonder how that would compare to the 6P4E 12600.

[cerulean rover]

I was hearing rumors of all P cores

[heady turtle]

Yeah just p cores under the 12600k

[ivory herald]

https://tenor.com/view/jack-nicholson-yes-nod-agree-gif-9864414

Good oc, no E core bs. Wouldn't need Win 11 as much.

[cerulean rover]

Still might from random microcode things

[ivory herald]

True. When I finally upgrade, should be much fewer bugs if I did choose 12th gen. The future lower rank cpus will have good reviews to read

[cerulean rover]

Just need Dr Ian Cutress now

[runic crypt]

is a 980 roughly on par with a 1070?

or more like a 1060 ti?

[heady turtle]

https://www.videocardbenchmark.net/singleCompare.php

there is no 1060 ti

[runic crypt]

oh my mistake

i saw a 1050 ti so that naming scheme is weird

[heady turtle]

No worries

[wicked hound]

Honestly we should be calling 1060 6gb a 1060Ti

[heady turtle]

We should but ┐( ∵ )┌

[wicked hound]

Short answer is that 980Ti is about 1070 perf and 980 is inbetween 1060 6gb and 1070

[runic crypt]

oh okay that makes moar sense

does radeon have this naming issue

[heady turtle]

tbf i think 1060 3gb and 6gb are the only weird ones but not to my knowledge

[runic crypt]

hmm

[wicked hound]

Both AMD and Nvidia have some dumb names. Luckily only happens every now and then

[runic crypt]

how does the radeon family handle this

compared to geforce

i know they shift the standards forward by one so the second-lowest becomes the lowest in the next generation and so on

but there's no xx50 outside of laptops anymore

so the lowest is a xx60 card

so a 3060 would be roughly a 2070

or a 2060 being a 1070

for the geforce family

[wicked hound]

When I say "dumb names" I mean misleading ones. Like with the 1060 3gb/6gb, one expects the only thing to change is VRAM size but the actual GPU die changes too. With the GT 1030 there is the DDR4 variant and GDDR5 variant. AMD has some "RX560s" that are RX550s, "RX570s" that are RX560s, etc.

[runic crypt]

yeah those are the dumb ones

i have a 1030 gddr5

AMD seems to be even stupider about it

[jaunty mango]

Wait so what would a 1050 equivalent in the 30xx series cards?

[runic crypt]

3030

if it existed

in other words there isn't

[jaunty mango]

Yea

[runic crypt]

a 3060 would be equivalent to a 1080

how much does a 1080 go for if the 3060 is 330 bucks

also i rember that the 10 series only released five years ago

we must've received huge power jumps since 2016

[wicked hound]

Kinda sorta. It can happen, but not always. Like first release of Turing was poor. Ampere technically doesnt follow this standard either if you look at power normalized perf

[jaunty mango]

Also is the 16xx series card just the die of a 3060 or 3050 card without the rt cores or is it a whole new chip

[runic crypt]

especially since new pc parts were a generation ahead of consoles

while nintendo is two generations behind standard consoles
(their current system is still only somewhat stronger than wiiu and ps3, which are comparable)

if someone were to build a retro pc for windows xp... is that practical anymore if you keep it offline?

[heady turtle]

Possibly, closest thing to that atm is the rx 6600

[heady turtle]

They both go for 400-500 realistically

[heady turtle]

No, it's more a cutdown 2060

[jaunty mango]

Oh wait yea the 16xx series came out with the 20xx cards

[quartz gull]

lowkey am about to buy a scalper gpu

I'm losing my mind

I'll never win the newegg shuffle

33 losses in a row baby

[ivory herald]

3060 is $330? Maybe should be. As for 1080...

[quartz gull]

Idk how I survived the 2018/2019 ram and gpu crisis

I just want to buy computer components

[quartz gull]

realistically a 3060 is going for $600-800 rn

[heady turtle]

*scalped

[quartz gull]

Anywhere but retail*

If he's looking for a 1080 it's going to be used as well

[heady turtle]

Yeah which is scalped lol

[heady turtle]

So

[quartz gull]

I'm comparing like for like avenues of purchasing, that's all

I'm lowkey convinced the 3000 series of gpus don't exist. I've never seen one. Never will win newegg shuffle. Never even seen a box for a 30 series card in a microcenter or best buy. They're a figment of my imagination

[dense cliff]

Does anyone know why a GPU would default to PCIe 1.1 randomly?

[ivory herald]

Example temps for Halo Infinite. 1st time I played it and 1st game I've done since installing Win10/ssd. hot spot is barely 80C, core is 60-65C.

@dense cliff you mean on gpuz or what? Some mobo's might have some sort of auto setting for a pcie slot. I forget if I checked that myself and just put it ononly 3.0

[dense cliff]

yeah mine shows the exact same thing

on gpu-z

[ivory herald]

hit the ? mark button right next to it

[heady turtle]

It's pcie 3.0 there is no pcie 1.1, can't remember off the top of my head what the 1.1 id but pcie x lanes generation is how it's layed out

[ivory herald]

they meant 1.0/1,1, but it's just at idle or low load to save power mainly

[dense cliff]

oh gotcha, just making sure i didn't mess anything up when i enabled a DOCP profile

[ivory herald]

hit that render test on gpuz and it should instantly change to 3.0 or 4.0

[heady turtle]

Docp has nothing to do with your gpu, it's just your ram

[dense cliff]

thanks

i wonder why it says the bus itself is pcie 3.0 when its in a 4.0 slot

[cerulean rover]

The GPU itself might be just using PCIe 3.0

[dense cliff]

ah i forgot to see if 2070 is gen 4

[ivory herald]

it isnt, I think. 30 series supports 4.0 though

[dense cliff]

hmmmm maybe the 3060 would actually be an upgrade for me then my cpu barely supports gen 4 so i should be in the clear

[heady turtle]

Nope gen 4 x16 is useless for gpus atm

[cerulean rover]

yea, people did testing, barely did anything if at all
https://youtu.be/0DKVVtirNM8

[heady turtle]

Especially a low end one, a 3090 can either barely saturate or can't saturate a pcie x16 slot, cannot remember

[dense cliff]

bummer, trying to find a decent upgrade for vr stuff

[cerulean rover]

I mean, that doesn't mean its a bad GPU

it just means the pcie 3.0 -> pcie 4.0 didn't do anything

[dense cliff]

yeah, the 2070 cant really display 1440p 80hz consistenly, but im not sure if the slight upgrade would be worth it.

[heady turtle]

Nah 3060 is roughly 2070 in perf it would just be a big side grade

[ivory herald]

Oh yeah, I want to get a 1440P display pretty soon myself. 1080 Ti would be the lowest/oldest for that, but not much of an upgrade now. As for pciE: 3.0 x16 allows 16G/s. 3.0 x8 = 2.0 x16 & even that is plenty for all but the fastest cards at max'd settings. 👍 ---I did find out earlier that the 1080 for example is plenty for HAlo infinite 1080P mostly high settings, IF my cpu wasn't quite the bottleneck.

[terse verge]

is the 1080 FE better than a RX 570 8GB?

and if so how much better is it

[cerulean rover]

a lot better

[ivory herald]

1060 beats even the RX 580 in almost everything, just for reference. 👍 Of course, RX did have msrp 1/2 what some 10 series cards were. https://www.anandtech.com/show/11278/amd-radeon-rx-580-rx-570-review/5

[terse verge]

Ok thanks.

I found 2 1080's w/ sli bridge for a pretty good price

If I can get it for $850 is that a good price?

[keen nacelle]

sli is dead

wont get you any increase in perf for gaming

[terse verge]

So if I run dual 1080's it literally won't do anything?

[keen nacelle]

not really

not for gaming

[terse verge]

Ok

[ivory herald]

haha, yep , but $425 for a 1080 would be fairly decent, even if it's an FE. Well, SLI is only good in specific (older) games or programs.

[terse verge]

Alright I'll try and get it for 400

How much better is the 3060 than the 1080?

Or should I try and get the 2060 re-release?

[ivory herald]

idk about that cpu holding back, but still should be a sizeable upgrade

[terse verge]

I am getting a 5 5600x

[ivory herald]

Oh right, good. The new 12GB 2060 I think? nah

2060 might have rtx and certain other features, but overall they don't seem quite fast enough to take full advantage. 1080 is at least close to 2070 in perf, so there' s that.

[terse verge]

Ok

[terse verge]

So a rx570 - a 1080 would be a very large perf boost I am understanding?

At the end of the day as long as it performs much better than my current card its worth it

[terse verge]

holy

[ivory herald]

Oh yeah, going by anandtech's review of the 580 trounced by the 1070, not to mention the 1080.

[terse verge]

Do you know where I could find a chart ranking all the gpus?

[ivory herald]

hmm, gpuboss maybe. well, it definitely lets you select 2 or 3 at once for comparison.

[keen nacelle]

passmark probably

[terse verge]

Ok thanks.

[ivory herald]

Might be better than me going 970 to 1080. Oh wait, actually similar because 970 was like the 1060 almost. Funny. Obviously I need a new cpu.

[terse verge]

yk whats funny tho

I ended up getting the rx570 8gb for $300 on amazon cause I built my first pc when I knew way too little about pcs

like a year ago

I noticed this is a different color than the FE, the back is white instead of black is it still the same thing or?

[quartz gull]

Call it a 2060 super 12gb

It's literally the same gpu as the 2060 super XD

Idk why nvidia is calling it the 2060 12gb when it has more cuda cores

[ivory herald]

weird. People will rush out and get it because it's another option.

[terse verge]

how much is it gonna cost?

[quartz gull]

They literally refused to put an msrp on it

[terse verge]

yeah I was looking for one

[quartz gull]

They said it's whatever the board partners charge

and to "expect a premium over the 2060"

like

[terse verge]

so like 600+

[quartz gull]

the 3060 is a 2060 super with 12gb of vram already tf nvidia

[ivory herald]

oh well. someone might've painted the cooler on their 1080.

[quartz gull]

Userbenchmark says the 2060 super and 3060 are about the same

which Ik that's not the best source

but like they're really similar

it's a 2060 super die with 12gb vram

which makes it a 3060

it just consumes more power

[terse verge]

So like what price we thinking?

[quartz gull]

probably the same price you see 3060's sell for

[terse verge]

so 500+ but scalped

[quartz gull]

probably like 400-500 for retail

800 scalped

you know how it is

[terse verge]

yep

[keen nacelle]

ubm is ass

[quartz gull]

Ik it is

[keen nacelle]

but close enough

3060 similar to 2070

[quartz gull]

2070 = 2060 super

so 3060 = 2070 = 2060 super = 2060 12gb

[terse verge]

What site should I look for it on?

Newegg, amazon and best buy?

[keen nacelle]

2060 12gb is a marketing scheme

[quartz gull]

Asus, msi, evga, gigabyte, etc. are going to all be selling it

[keen nacelle]

a gpu of that tier wont use more than 6gb for anything other than rendering

[quartz gull]

uhm

bacca I can't use ultra textures in some games with my 6gb at 1080p

with raytracing at things like medium

[terse verge]

https://www.mercari.com/us/item/m68769825126/?ref=search_results

imagine copping that, I wish I got it

[keen nacelle]

...that isnt because of 6gb

[quartz gull]

no no

[keen nacelle]

thats because 2060 wont run a lot of games at ultra lmao

[quartz gull]

I hit 6gb of vram

no just ultra textures

I play games at high with ultra textures

halving my framerate with 50ms frametime spikes by increasing textures

and riva statistics showing vram maxed out

probably means the whole vram is being used

I can't even crank settings in doom eternal

it doesn't let me

nightmare and ultra nightmare are literally not able to be set until I modify the settings file. The game can run at 100+ fps at ultra nightmare on a 2060 but it's limited by vram. 6gb isn't enough and even nvidia acknowledged that with the 2060 super

[dusty hare]

Anyone here heard of the Rx 640

And how many FPS one could get in Minecraft

[quartz gull]

That's a mobile gpu, ain't it?

[dusty hare]

That looks like a desktop gpu

[quartz gull]

ah you're right

it's both lol

I thought it was a mobile on gpu

[dusty hare]

Oh lol

[quartz gull]

Minecraft will run on most integrated gpus

so a rx 640 should be able to run that no problem lol

[dusty hare]

Can I get like 200+ fps

[quartz gull]

depends

[terse verge]

how much should I try and sell my rx570 8gb for when I get a new gpu? $200?

[quartz gull]

$200 would be really generous to a buyer

[dusty hare]

I fun everything on fast so idk

[terse verge]

$300?

[dusty hare]

Also is it a bad idea to have all ports populated on a gpu

[quartz gull]

If you don't wanna be a bulli you should do $200-250

but yeah you could probably get $300+ for it

[terse verge]

350 to start and people can negotiate

on mercari

[quartz gull]

considering 1050ti's are still going for $300

and the 570 is faster

how much vram?

[terse verge]

8gb

[quartz gull]

oh the prices have actually dropped on the 570 a decent amount

[dusty hare]

?

[terse verge]

: (

It'll pay for most of it if I can get a 1080 for 450 and sell this gpu for 250

[quartz gull]

it's still $400+ on ebay BUT

[terse verge]

Probably won't sell

for 400

[quartz gull]

you should sell it for 25% less than what you have on ebay

[terse verge]

yep

[quartz gull]

so that would be about $300

I'm thinking of going your route too

buy a scalped 3060ti for $800 and sell my 2060 for $450

[terse verge]

I'll list it for 350 and say negotiations are open

[terse verge]

Yeah exactly

[quartz gull]

It's still sad that it would have to come to that

the reason the 570 8gb goes for more

is you need 5+GB of vram to crypto mine

[terse verge]

Yeah I was nearly gonna get an $850 3060

[quartz gull]

the 4gb model goes for $250 on ebay

[terse verge]

ahh

[quartz gull]

the 570 doesn't need 8gb of vram at it's power but it allows it to mine

[terse verge]

I hope I don't end up selling to a miner unless my gpu prevents them from scalping another etc.

[quartz gull]

instantly making it way more valuable

[terse verge]

It has really bad mh/s tho

[quartz gull]

these are the most recent 4gb sales

the ones I showed you were the most recent 8gb sales

[terse verge]

In my pc it makes $14 a month using norton etherium mining software

dang

[quartz gull]

so yeah the 8gb is a good bit more valuable

because you need 5+ gb to mine most coins

[terse verge]

Ok

I have the ASrock gaming pro 8gb phantom something or anther

[quartz gull]

A premium 570?

that's nice actually

[terse verge]

https://www.asrock.com/Graphics-Card/AMD/Phantom Gaming X Radeon RX570 8G OC/

Thats exactly what I have

https://www.ebay.com/p/17022568791

Its still worth it to upgrade to the 1080 FE right?

[quartz gull]

definitely

that's a HUGE upgrade

[terse verge]

Yeah

Plus I get to sell it

Selling with the super high prices is one thing good that comes out of this gpu shortage

[quartz gull]

things like this piss me off a bit

120 3080FE

[terse verge]

dude

thats not even

like

The amount of scalping

[quartz gull]

he has so many 3080's... and it's a ridiculous amount of money...

[terse verge]

Literally 120 gpus for one person...

[quartz gull]

it should be about $150-200k for all of those + farm equipment

[terse verge]

Imagine 120 people are happy for christmas instead of one guy making bank

[ivory herald]

A year ago, RX 570 was worth probably $200ish, just so ya know.

[terse verge]

I wonder how long it'll take to break even

[quartz gull]

467 days...

that's not even that long...

[terse verge]

for real

[quartz gull]

yeah

he says it's $750 a day in net profit

[terse verge]

My rx570 would take me probably that long

[quartz gull]

which seems accurate

I'm just mad he has so many founders editions

[ivory herald]

Yep, 120 gamers are missing out on a good gpu

[quartz gull]

I'd buy one of those for $700

like

[terse verge]

fr same

[quartz gull]

😢

[terse verge]

I have enough to buy a card for 800, but I'm not buying a 3060 or a 3070 for 800

[quartz gull]

these are all over facebook marketplace

it's actually a really great price

[ivory herald]

A 60 series for $700+ just seems wack to me. Remember when a 80 series was $800 max. well, 1 of the TI models might've been $900 at a time.

[quartz gull]

but they buy the desktop, sell the gpu for profit, then cut their loss on the rest of the PC by selling it cheap

[terse verge]

yeah now they're all like 1000+

[quartz gull]

I saw a 11700f build selling for $400 last week

[terse verge]

Thats actually really smart

[quartz gull]

I looked up the skew number I could see on the back

it was a 3080 machine for $1800

you buy it

strip the gpu

sell the gpu for $1600 then sell the rest for cheap

[terse verge]

jesus

[quartz gull]

and you're not limited on quantity

you can buy 20 of those desktops at once

[terse verge]

hopefully those money glitches get patched in 2022

[quartz gull]

LOL

it's some work selling the non gpu part though

it was up there for like 5 days

[terse verge]

I'm sure,

[quartz gull]

the $400 11700f build without gpu

No one wants to buy a computer without a gpu

[terse verge]

You'd probably do better selling everything separately

[quartz gull]

no one wants 11th gen anything at this point

[terse verge]

Because some people just want a singular part not abunch of it

yeah

[quartz gull]

z590 boards are going for under $100 locally over here

[terse verge]

dang

[quartz gull]

I bet a lot of those are from gpu combos LOL

[terse verge]

yeah lmao

[terse verge]

random but scrolling through mercari has me sad

[quartz gull]

we have a lot of 300-400 1070's over here

[lone pond]

Anyone got a recommend on a good x570 board for less then $300?

[terse verge]

https://www.mercari.com/us/item/m38661785273/?ref=search_results

$480

480 for a frickin 2070 super

[quartz gull]

I WANT IT

[terse verge]

with todays pricing

[quartz gull]

sad

[terse verge]

yeah same

2 days ago it sold : (

[quartz gull]

I will literally buy the 2060 12gb

I just want

8gb+ of vram

that's it

[terse verge]

yeah

[low niche]

i need a gpu

like really bad

[terse verge]

I can sell you a rx570 8gb phantom X OC

ASRock

[low niche]

i think that might bottle neck my cpu

[terse verge]

what cpu you goy

[quartz gull]

what cpu?

[terse verge]

got

[quartz gull]

if you're getting bottlenecked by a 570 I'm concerned LOL

[low niche]

i9 12900k

[terse verge]

fr

[quartz gull]

oh

I thought you meant get bottlenecked by*

[ivory herald]

ah, all that holds back the 2060. Would've been too close to 1080/2070 performance.

[quartz gull]

Yeah I can't turn up textures in any game it's annoying me

[terse verge]

How much you think I can sell a ryzen 5 1600 for?

[quartz gull]

is it an af

or regular

[terse verge]

I don't even know

prolly regular

[quartz gull]

the af performs like 30% better

[terse verge]

Would it say "AF" In my drivers page?

[quartz gull]

uhm Idk where it would say it

all I know is it's secretly an r5 2600 that they sold as 1600's

[low niche]

wait @quartz gull you have ddr5 correct?

[quartz gull]

Nope

[ivory herald]

I hear ya. Only settings I turn down are those that effect the cpu most, obviously (for now). idk, $400+ to get z590/690 setup. can't decide decent display or the other stuff.

[terse verge]

dang

[quartz gull]

ddr4 4400 instead

[terse verge]

how much a 5 1600 sell for tho not AF?

[low niche]

ah

[quartz gull]

like $80

[terse verge]

damn

[low niche]

im trying to get some ddr5 and cant find any

[lone pond]

YD1600BBAFBOX part number is how you tell

[terse verge]

thats cheaper then I thought

[lone pond]

if you have the box

[terse verge]

I was thinking 100 min

[quartz gull]

this is why I didn't go ddr5 and went high end ddr4 instead

ddr5 will probably be reguarly in stock in like march

[low niche]

hopfully

[quartz gull]

I don't see ddr5 staying high for that long

then again I said that in 2018

and we were hit by a 15 month dram crisis

[terse verge]

Sadly I won't get all the gpu listings on personal sell sites after christmas cause I'm getting a gpu for christmas

[low niche]

its not the price that is horrible its the stock

[terse verge]

I'm sure I'd see tons of good gpus for reasonable prices

[ivory herald]

it's brand new, it will . when it's supper common is when prices will be ok. Then ddr4 and especially ddr3 will start going up in price as they're less common

[quartz gull]

ddr3 was weird

ddr2 didn't shoot up that much

and idk if ddr4 will either

ddr3 was kinda strange the way it skyrocketed so fast

[low niche]

i thinking around 5000-6000 mhz ddr5

[quartz gull]

Oh high end ddr5?

[terse verge]

Is a gigabite 1080 8gb for $500 better than a 1080 FE for 456?

[quartz gull]

no

FE is better

fe has better clocks

[terse verge]

oo

[quartz gull]

and I think worse cooling

[low niche]

where can i buy

i need somthing

[terse verge]

this looks legit right? The lighting is throwing me off