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runic crypt Nov 28, 2021, 10:33 AM

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is that a low end within that model

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or just the least rare variant

heady turtle Nov 28, 2021, 10:34 AM

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Neither, FE's are made by Nvidia so they're the only ones at msrp across the board

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The fe design isn't the best but it's better than like a ventus or something

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But not really much more performance for the aib good models

vital oriole Nov 28, 2021, 11:06 AM

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fe is just well

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a design that has no faults

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apart from looks that is purely subjective

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like some guy that said fe 30 series are overpriced even at msrp cause he didn't like the looks

heady turtle Nov 28, 2021, 11:31 AM

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vital oriole a design that has no faults

Their pads are meh and the cooler is meh especially for the higher tier cards

fossil jungle Nov 28, 2021, 11:34 AM

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Looks beautiful though

vital oriole Nov 28, 2021, 11:45 AM

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heady turtle Their pads are meh and the cooler is meh especially for the higher tier cards

yeah but it works fine

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fe is like an example of something working just fine

heady turtle Nov 28, 2021, 11:51 AM

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It's decent yeah but most are decent

keen sky Nov 28, 2021, 2:21 PM

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I got a 3060 let's go

heady turtle Nov 28, 2021, 2:27 PM

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Congrats

cosmic bluff Nov 28, 2021, 2:31 PM

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Welcome to RTX

lethal pawn Nov 28, 2021, 5:09 PM

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just got a new graphics card :D

green harness Nov 28, 2021, 5:19 PM

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What'd you get?

lethal pawn Nov 28, 2021, 5:20 PM

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1030

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big upgrade from gt 620

small swallow Nov 28, 2021, 5:42 PM

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why the hell TSMC kissing apples ass?

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This year TSMC reserved the majority of 5nm capacity to Apple as well

heady turtle Nov 28, 2021, 5:43 PM

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small swallow why the hell TSMC kissing apples ass?

Money

cerulean rover Nov 28, 2021, 5:43 PM

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Apple has been TSMC's biggest customer for a long time now

heady turtle Nov 28, 2021, 5:43 PM

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And loyalty

small swallow Nov 28, 2021, 5:43 PM

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Man but 53% lol

heady turtle Nov 28, 2021, 5:43 PM

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Apple makes a lot of phones and low laptops with their own chips

cerulean rover Nov 28, 2021, 5:44 PM

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The chart would look the same for 7nm, and probably 14nm too

lethal pawn Nov 28, 2021, 5:44 PM

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gamer

small swallow Nov 28, 2021, 5:44 PM

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still makes no sense that they have more than half alone

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I would say at max one company would get 40% if not less

cerulean rover Nov 28, 2021, 5:44 PM

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Apple is huge, what can ya do

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Phones sell at a higher margin

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Small chip high price

small swallow Nov 28, 2021, 5:45 PM

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I'm starting to think that Apple is to blame for chip shortage not miners 😄

heady turtle Nov 28, 2021, 5:45 PM

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Lol neither are

small swallow Nov 28, 2021, 5:45 PM

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Miners are lol

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I mean I can get CPU at MSRP with no problems

cerulean rover Nov 28, 2021, 5:45 PM

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Eh, could've blamed apple at any point, but well, it has just been that way for a while

small swallow Nov 28, 2021, 5:45 PM

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it's GPU that is the problem

heady turtle Nov 28, 2021, 5:45 PM

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small swallow Miners are lol

Miners are a small portion, mainly covid and demand going insanely high

cerulean rover Nov 28, 2021, 5:45 PM

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small swallow I mean I can get CPU at MSRP with no problems

Try to get ddr5 :)

small swallow Nov 28, 2021, 5:46 PM

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heady turtle Miners are a small portion, mainly covid and demand going insanely high

no, miners is the main reason

cerulean rover Nov 28, 2021, 5:46 PM

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If miners are the problem, what's with ddr5

small swallow Nov 28, 2021, 5:46 PM

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heady turtle Miners are a small portion, mainly covid and demand going insanely high

if that was true we would have trouble findign cpus

heady turtle Nov 28, 2021, 5:46 PM

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No

small swallow Nov 28, 2021, 5:46 PM

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but look I can go to the shop and buy any other PC part except GPU

heady turtle Nov 28, 2021, 5:46 PM

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small swallow if that was true we would have trouble findign cpus

Intel has their own fabs and there was originally trouble with ryzen 5000

cerulean rover Nov 28, 2021, 5:46 PM

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Ddr5 is practically nonexistent, people are scalping ddr5 for an exorbitant amount

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And yet nothing needs ddr5 for mining

small swallow Nov 28, 2021, 5:46 PM

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heady turtle Intel has their own fabs and there was originally trouble with ryzen 5000

I can get AMD CPU at MSRP

cerulean rover Nov 28, 2021, 5:47 PM

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The was trouble a few months ago

heady turtle Nov 28, 2021, 5:47 PM

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Yeah a year after launch

cerulean rover Nov 28, 2021, 5:48 PM

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Well, go back more than 2 months and there was supply trouble

small swallow Nov 28, 2021, 5:48 PM

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Well they never Shipped DDR5 to my country yet, but AMD Ryzen 5000 was at MSRP price since pretty much lautch day, cus scalepr can't scalp it

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no one buy it

cerulean rover Nov 28, 2021, 5:48 PM

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People did

small swallow Nov 28, 2021, 5:48 PM

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while gpu is still bought by miners

cerulean rover Nov 28, 2021, 5:48 PM

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In the US

heady turtle Nov 28, 2021, 5:48 PM

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And in eu too

small swallow Nov 28, 2021, 5:48 PM

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from scalpers

cerulean rover Nov 28, 2021, 5:48 PM

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5600x on launch were scalped at around 500$ iirc

heady turtle Nov 28, 2021, 5:49 PM

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Didn't think it was that bad jeez

cerulean rover Nov 28, 2021, 5:49 PM

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And people still bought those

small swallow Nov 28, 2021, 5:49 PM

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well 5600x was like 400€ fir the first month

cerulean rover Nov 28, 2021, 5:49 PM

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Yea on launch it was crazy

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400$ when MSRP is 300$

small swallow Nov 28, 2021, 5:49 PM

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but it got to 300€ later

cerulean rover Nov 28, 2021, 5:49 PM

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That's like 3080 being 1300$

small swallow Nov 28, 2021, 5:49 PM

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now it's like 250€

heady turtle Nov 28, 2021, 5:49 PM

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small swallow but it got to 300€ later

Later being the key word

small swallow Nov 28, 2021, 5:50 PM

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heady turtle Later being the key word

you read only parts you like, cus I said one month

heady turtle Nov 28, 2021, 5:50 PM

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small swallow now it's like 250€

Because it's a year old and intel finally released competitive cpus above the 200$ mark

heady turtle Nov 28, 2021, 5:51 PM

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small swallow you read only parts you like, cus I said one month

Okay you got one, but there was issues in other countries etc till Christmas they were basically impossible to find

cerulean rover Nov 28, 2021, 5:51 PM

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And I feel like you're only reading parts you like

small swallow Nov 28, 2021, 5:51 PM

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yeah pato doesn't read

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it

heady turtle Nov 28, 2021, 5:52 PM

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You didn't even read his last message properly 😂

small swallow Nov 28, 2021, 5:52 PM

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it was refering to you

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@heady turtle

cerulean rover Nov 28, 2021, 5:52 PM

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small swallow yeah pato doesn't read

No, you haven't been reading how CPUs were being scalped, and you even agreed

heady turtle Nov 28, 2021, 5:52 PM

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small swallow it was refering to you

Lmao no it wasnt lol

small swallow Nov 28, 2021, 5:53 PM

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cerulean rover No, you haven't been reading how CPUs *were* being scalped, and you even agreed

it was sold by retail for 400€ at the start, it lower the price one month later

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to 300€

heady turtle Nov 28, 2021, 5:53 PM

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According to you covid didn't play a factor at all, or a major increase in demand xD

cerulean rover Nov 28, 2021, 5:54 PM

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And? That's what we're saying?

small swallow Nov 28, 2021, 5:54 PM

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heady turtle According to you covid didn't play a factor at all, or a major increase in deman...

it did, but why only gpu got hit by it so much then?

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everythign else recovered

cerulean rover Nov 28, 2021, 5:54 PM

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I mean, ddr5

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And limited fab space in general

heady turtle Nov 28, 2021, 5:54 PM

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Well as i said intel have entire fabs to themselves so they were pretty much fine amd struggled a bit

small swallow Nov 28, 2021, 5:55 PM

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DDR5 Ram got released jsut this month

cerulean rover Nov 28, 2021, 5:55 PM

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50mm for a chiplet for an AMD CPU, 400mm for a GPU die, yaknow

heady turtle Nov 28, 2021, 5:55 PM

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small swallow DDR5 Ram got released jsut this month

Find some anywhere but ebay

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Any country

cerulean rover Nov 28, 2021, 5:55 PM

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small swallow DDR5 Ram got released jsut this month

It got released half a year ago

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A team ddr5 kit was on sale half a year ago

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The standard released a year ago

small swallow Nov 28, 2021, 5:55 PM

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@cerulean rover

cerulean rover Nov 28, 2021, 5:55 PM

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That's PNY

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DDR5, as according to JEDEC, was released about a year ago

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Team has been selling them for close to half a year

small swallow Nov 28, 2021, 5:57 PM

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and?

cerulean rover Nov 28, 2021, 5:57 PM

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So, a product that has released a few months ago, completely out of stock now, in high demand, with no relations to miners.

small swallow Nov 28, 2021, 5:57 PM

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the fact google gives as first option PNY

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production of JEDEC wasn't big

cerulean rover Nov 28, 2021, 5:58 PM

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I mean, nor PNY or Team makes the dies, it's like saying because 3090 suprim X released a month after launch, 3090 launch day should be considered to be one month later

cerulean rover Nov 28, 2021, 5:58 PM

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small swallow production of JEDEC wasn't big

JEDEC is literally the people that makes the ddr5 protocol

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No jedec, no ddr5

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Or any ddr

small swallow Nov 28, 2021, 6:00 PM

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anyway the thing is gamers won't buy DDR5 rams from scalpers insane price to just get 5-10fps better gaming performace

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they will get to ain my country they probably gonna be at MSRP in Jan

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ir Feb

cerulean rover Nov 28, 2021, 6:00 PM

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Sure, but that only supports that there's high demands from gamers

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Which leads to GPU pricing also driven up by that same demand

heady turtle Nov 28, 2021, 6:01 PM

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small swallow anyway the thing is gamers won't buy DDR5 rams from scalpers insane price to jus...

Ddr5 don't even have good enough gains in fps anyway but that's besides the point

small swallow Nov 28, 2021, 6:02 PM

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I'm pretty sure gamers are fine with GTX1000s RTX2000s instead of paying 1K for 3060, but miners still take the risk, cus they can flip the card after they done mining

cerulean rover Nov 28, 2021, 6:02 PM

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And so?

small swallow Nov 28, 2021, 6:03 PM

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this is why GPU getting sold like crazy, we had the same problem in 2017

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cus of Miners

cerulean rover Nov 28, 2021, 6:04 PM

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So just because some people can afford scalped GPUs we should blame them and not the people that scalp or the huge demand that's driving up the prices?

small swallow Nov 28, 2021, 6:04 PM

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Do you remeber in 2017 seeing 10 GTX 1070 in stock and being gone in like 2-3 minutes

small swallow Nov 28, 2021, 6:04 PM

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cerulean rover So just because some people can afford scalped GPUs we should blame them and not...

YES

cerulean rover Nov 28, 2021, 6:04 PM

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Okay then

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Blame the rich works too

small swallow Nov 28, 2021, 6:05 PM

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well them too, but they don't buy 20 RTX 3060 ti

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in one go

cerulean rover Nov 28, 2021, 6:05 PM

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Nor do miners

ivory herald Nov 28, 2021, 6:05 PM

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cerulean rover Nov 28, 2021, 6:05 PM

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And honestly, no miner wants any current ampere card, LHR cuts profitability too much

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5700xt has been one of the best card for mining for a long time now

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And yet LHR cards still sell like hotcakes

small swallow Nov 28, 2021, 6:06 PM

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cerulean rover And honestly, no miner wants any current ampere card, LHR cuts profitability too...

they want FE most cus those don't have LHR, but you can bypass LHR by mining 2 different cryptos

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I heard they can mine at 74%

cerulean rover Nov 28, 2021, 6:07 PM

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Not quite, if you have something like 3060ti, DAG is too big to be dual mining eth and rvn or erg

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3080+, yes, you could do that, but it's more mining at 50% for each coin

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It ends up more like 30/70 eth/rvn when eth is more profitable

small swallow Nov 28, 2021, 6:09 PM

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I hope this drop will have at least some effect in my country, but this could also just because of Sweden trying to ban crypto mining

cerulean rover Nov 28, 2021, 6:09 PM

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Doesn't change all that much tbh

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They keep pushing back pos

small swallow Nov 28, 2021, 6:10 PM

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but it didn't bounce back

cerulean rover Nov 28, 2021, 6:10 PM

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Once POS is implemented, no more eth mining, and I'd assume the situation would improve a bit, but there'd still be a shortage, but that's also going to take a few months

small swallow Nov 28, 2021, 6:10 PM

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at least not yet

cerulean rover Nov 28, 2021, 6:10 PM

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That kind of price drop doesn't matter too much to a miner tbh

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So you're making 95$ a day instead of 100$ a day, great.

small swallow Nov 28, 2021, 6:10 PM

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cerulean rover Once POS is implemented, no more eth mining, and I'd assume the situation would ...

tbh the article I read, was targeting bitcoin mining

cerulean rover Nov 28, 2021, 6:11 PM

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???

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Bitcoin mining has nothing to do with GPUs

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Bitcoin is all being mined on ASICs now

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GPUs aren't profitable

small swallow Nov 28, 2021, 6:11 PM

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https://www.euronews.com/next/2021/11/12/europe-must-ban-bitcoin-mining-to-hit-the-1-5c-paris-climate-goal-say-swedish-regulators

euronews

Ban Bitcoin mining to save the environment, say Swedish authorities

Environment and finance regulators in the Nordic country say crypto mining's electricity usage is putting the climate at risk.

cerulean rover Nov 28, 2021, 6:11 PM

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ASICs are really power hungry, so no surprise there

small swallow Nov 28, 2021, 6:12 PM

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if they ban bitcoin mining

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you say it won't effect etherium too?

cerulean rover Nov 28, 2021, 6:12 PM

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If there's literally no Bitcoin mining any more, doesn't directly affect Ethereum

small swallow Nov 28, 2021, 6:13 PM

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like wouln't price of bitcoin drop?

cerulean rover Nov 28, 2021, 6:13 PM

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They're different currencies on different Blockchains

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If there's no more mining, Bitcoin wouldn't exist

small swallow Nov 28, 2021, 6:13 PM

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yeah but inverstor would move away from etherium too

cerulean rover Nov 28, 2021, 6:13 PM

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Who knows

small swallow Nov 28, 2021, 6:13 PM

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big price drop

cerulean rover Nov 28, 2021, 6:13 PM

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But Bitcoin is not Ethereum

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And vice versa

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And well, even if the EU ban mining, miners will just move

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A Chinese province banned mining a while back, miners just moved out

small swallow Nov 28, 2021, 6:14 PM

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cerulean rover A Chinese province banned mining a while back, miners just moved out

yeah to USA

cerulean rover Nov 28, 2021, 6:15 PM

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Wherever they went, they just left

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And I doubt every nation in the world could agree on something

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So now we're just in limbo

small swallow Nov 28, 2021, 6:16 PM

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the reason why China banned mining was cus they where lacking (fuel? Sorry I don't know how tat word in english is)

cerulean rover Nov 28, 2021, 6:17 PM

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That was a few months ago

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China is having trouble with electricity nowadays

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But they banned mining in one province months ago

livid idol Nov 28, 2021, 6:59 PM

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They moved either to different provinces or to India primarily

heady turtle Nov 28, 2021, 7:09 PM

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cerulean rover Once POS is implemented, no more eth mining, and I'd assume the situation would ...

then theyll just have to worry about raven and ergo lol

heady turtle Nov 28, 2021, 8:13 PM

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@keen nacelle you have a fhr gpu right? if so can you pull up gpu z and check if you have samsung ram, just out of curiosity

keen nacelle Nov 28, 2021, 8:13 PM

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heady turtle <@!654444344274845698> you have a fhr gpu right? if so can you pull up gpu z and...

yeah i do, ill check rn

heady turtle Nov 28, 2021, 8:13 PM

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ty

keen nacelle Nov 28, 2021, 8:14 PM

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yeah

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samsung

heady turtle Nov 28, 2021, 8:14 PM

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hmmm

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interesting

keen nacelle Nov 28, 2021, 8:14 PM

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what for?

heady turtle Nov 28, 2021, 8:14 PM

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apparently all the fhr g6 cards have samsung ram

keen nacelle Nov 28, 2021, 8:14 PM

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interesting

keen nacelle Nov 28, 2021, 8:21 PM

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heady turtle apparently all the fhr g6 cards have samsung ram

do you think it has to do with when nvidia was getting their chips?

heady turtle Nov 28, 2021, 8:22 PM

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keen nacelle do you think it has to do with when nvidia was getting their chips?

no clue, havent confirmed it yet thats just what sips heard from someone

topaz gazelle Nov 28, 2021, 8:38 PM

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Anyone have ideas on getting the 6900xt vs trying to get a 3080 or 3090?

heady turtle Nov 28, 2021, 8:43 PM

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topaz gazelle Anyone have ideas on getting the 6900xt vs trying to get a 3080 or 3090?

https://github.com/NeweggTechie/Graphics-cards/wiki/GPU-Buying-guide

GitHub

GPU Buying guide · NeweggTechie/Graphics-cards Wiki

Contribute to NeweggTechie/Graphics-cards development by creating an account on GitHub.

normal hawk Nov 28, 2021, 9:40 PM

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topaz gazelle Anyone have ideas on getting the 6900xt vs trying to get a 3080 or 3090?

if you don't need NVENC or DLSS and can afford the 6900xt, just get the 6900XT imo. less stress

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a few dropped down to 1500 to 1600 which is about the price of a cheaper Non FE 3080 ti and they can keep up fairly well.

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Well with black friday over the cheapest one is 1549 with promo code now.

topaz gazelle Nov 28, 2021, 10:02 PM

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What does nvenc and dlss do exactly? @normal hawk

heady turtle Nov 28, 2021, 10:03 PM

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topaz gazelle What does nvenc and dlss do exactly? <@!299338121131327499>

Nvenc is Nvidias encoder for streaming/recording that basically has 0 impact on performance, dlss is their upscaling technology

static wraith Nov 28, 2021, 10:11 PM

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What would be a good price for a 3080 (ti) either used and/or new

heady turtle Nov 28, 2021, 10:13 PM

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Ised?

static wraith Nov 28, 2021, 10:17 PM

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Fixed it.

heady turtle Nov 28, 2021, 10:30 PM

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Ahh

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3080 new 700-1100$
3080 used ~1600$+
3080 ti new 1200-1500$
3080 ti used ~2000$+

rustic pulsar Nov 28, 2021, 10:38 PM

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heady turtle Ahh

Why are used more expensive?

heady turtle Nov 28, 2021, 10:39 PM

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rustic pulsar Why are used more expensive?

Shortage

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And can buy instantly

rustic pulsar Nov 28, 2021, 10:39 PM

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Ahh I see

green harness Nov 28, 2021, 10:41 PM

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heady turtle 3080 new 700-1100$ 3080 used ~1600$+ 3080 ti new 1200-1500$ 3080 ti used ~2000$+

tbf though they asked for good prices. Imo good price is around what you said for new regardless of new/used

heady turtle Nov 28, 2021, 10:41 PM

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green harness tbf though they asked for good prices. Imo good price is around what you said fo...

Being realistic

green harness Nov 28, 2021, 10:42 PM

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There are places to get those cards for around msrp

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And some of the msrps are not good prices. Like $1700 for a 3080 ti is not a good price imo, but it's the MSRP for some cards

heady turtle Nov 28, 2021, 10:55 PM

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green harness And some of the msrps are not good prices. Like $1700 for a 3080 ti is not a goo...

That's why i said up to 1500 for the 80 ti

empty compass Nov 28, 2021, 11:01 PM

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i already wanna build a new pc and i havent even finished my current build yet 😆 https://pcpartpicker.com/list/fztDp2

System Builder

normal hawk Nov 28, 2021, 11:01 PM

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tf are you doing with this PC

empty compass Nov 28, 2021, 11:01 PM

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im gonna stare at it

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like actually

normal hawk Nov 28, 2021, 11:02 PM

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Also. don't get that case

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I see its an all ASUS build. but just don't

green harness Nov 28, 2021, 11:02 PM

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Couldn't find any Asus brand fans?

empty compass Nov 28, 2021, 11:03 PM

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pretty sure asus only makes fans for their aios

green harness Nov 28, 2021, 11:05 PM

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empty compass pretty sure asus only makes fans for their aios

So they need to buy a bunch of AIOs to harvest fans

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https://tenor.com/view/here-no-exspense-is-spared-john-hammond-jurassic-park-gif-15114822

Tenor

empty compass Nov 28, 2021, 11:05 PM

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lol, then ill have a bunch of rog aios with no fans

green harness Nov 28, 2021, 11:07 PM

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Well that's not my problem

empty compass Nov 28, 2021, 11:08 PM

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i could buy more aios, take the fans off of those, and then put the fans on the other ones

empty compass Nov 28, 2021, 11:34 PM

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normal hawk I see its an all ASUS build. but just don't

the case isnt THAT bad

normal hawk Nov 28, 2021, 11:34 PM

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empty compass the case isnt THAT bad

for the price its terrible

empty compass Nov 28, 2021, 11:35 PM

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does the price of the rest of the build show that im worried about price? lol

normal hawk Nov 28, 2021, 11:35 PM

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its ALL a waste. but that case is above and beyond 😠

empty compass Nov 28, 2021, 11:35 PM

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$3000 on nvme drives alone, lol

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and the only thing it really suffers with is cpu temps

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and not even terribly suffering

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just a little hotter than some may like

normal hawk Nov 28, 2021, 11:37 PM

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so you're putting a toasty boy in there with a mediocre CPU Cooler 😠

empty compass Nov 28, 2021, 11:38 PM

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thats just there to be there, would probably do custom loop

keen nacelle Nov 28, 2021, 11:38 PM

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normal hawk so you're putting a toasty boy in there with a mediocre CPU Cooler 😠

Let em waste money, clearly they have more money than they know what to do with

normal hawk Nov 28, 2021, 11:38 PM

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keen nacelle Let em waste money, clearly they have more money than they know what to do with

true

empty compass Nov 28, 2021, 11:39 PM

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building gaming PCs are supposed to be cool and fun anyways, this is more for vanity that it is for peak performance

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if it makes you feel better, i do have a pc that isnt in a case that is a toaster oven

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and lets be honest, theres nothing worse than a h510 and yet people still buy that thing over way cheaper and better options

ivory herald Nov 28, 2021, 11:41 PM

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I would'nt mind one of the In Win "cases"

normal hawk Nov 28, 2021, 11:42 PM

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I mean, I could raise you an old tan compaq for a sleeper build

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with 0 airflow

solemn panther Nov 29, 2021, 12:03 AM

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bought my 3080ti for 1725

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barbaric

green harness Nov 29, 2021, 12:06 AM

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Ouch

normal hawk Nov 29, 2021, 12:25 AM

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solemn panther bought my 3080ti for 1725

which one did ya get?

solemn panther Nov 29, 2021, 12:25 AM

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Ftw3

normal hawk Nov 29, 2021, 1:24 AM

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solemn panther Ftw3

1725 including tax right? 😩

ivory herald Nov 29, 2021, 1:48 AM

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normal hawk 1725 including tax right? 😩

if not, more like $1900 starlitCRY

solemn panther Nov 29, 2021, 2:52 AM

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normal hawk 1725 including tax right? 😩

Yep

normal hawk Nov 29, 2021, 2:54 AM

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solemn panther Yep

I was worried for a moment, cause EVGA's usually good on prices

scenic coral Nov 29, 2021, 2:18 PM

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One message removed from a suspended account.

heady turtle Nov 29, 2021, 2:42 PM

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scenic coral One message removed from a suspended account.

Only used

golden badger Nov 29, 2021, 6:13 PM

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Can someone help me find a gpu under £289?

cosmic bluff Nov 29, 2021, 9:08 PM

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Gt 710

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Its a gpu under ur budget lol

quartz gull Nov 29, 2021, 9:13 PM

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golden badger Can someone help me find a gpu under £289?

I mean you could buy like a 980 used for about $280 USD here so prices may be similar over there

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It's going to be very hard finding a "good" gpu for that price

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Not to mention that's under the MSRP for all RX 6000/RTX 3000 cards

kind peak Nov 29, 2021, 10:50 PM

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Are there any compatibility issues reported with the RX 6900 XT and the intel mobos (like ASUS TUF GAMING Z590-PLUS WIFI LGA 1200 Intel)

heady turtle Nov 29, 2021, 10:52 PM

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kind peak Are there any compatibility issues reported with the RX 6900 XT and the intel mo...

None at all

quartz gull Nov 29, 2021, 10:57 PM

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The current issues are with GTX 700/900/1000 series cards on 12th gen and can be easily fixed by lowering the PCIE 5.0 slot speed to 3.0 I'm the bios

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To my knowledge no AMD GPUs are being hit by that PCIE bug if that's what you're asking

tacit urchin Nov 29, 2021, 11:00 PM

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Good to know at least when im gonna buy a pc in the future or build one ty

heady turtle Nov 29, 2021, 11:04 PM

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quartz gull The current issues are with GTX 700/900/1000 series cards on 12th gen and can be...

Is there? It should auto detect pcie 3.0

kind peak Nov 29, 2021, 11:05 PM

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That’s good to know

heady turtle Nov 29, 2021, 11:06 PM

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kind peak That’s good to know

Not an issue with your board anyway

kind peak Nov 29, 2021, 11:07 PM

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I have a Gtx 970 right now. Originally, I was planning to move that over to the new build

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But ended up just buying the ex 6900 xt. Why not, right?

heady turtle Nov 29, 2021, 11:08 PM

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Dam nice upgrade

fierce canopy Nov 29, 2021, 11:11 PM

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i just bought a 6600xt for my upgrade from a rx580

quartz gull Nov 29, 2021, 11:14 PM

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heady turtle Is there? It should auto detect pcie 3.0

It's not doing it for 700/900/1000 series cards for some boards. I think it's bios error

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It legit just doesn't detect the GPU unless it's in 3.0 mode

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I assume bios updates will fix it. My 950 gets detected in my board

ivory herald Nov 29, 2021, 11:51 PM

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If I may get some input again. gpu is back to having the funnily not-lowest P8 power state. 2nd lowest is 570/810 and lowest should be maybe 200/405 but currently I'm at 608/405. Could be a fluke just because I have Steam DLing and a handful of other stuff open, lol. Last time I just reinstalled afterburner i think. no big deal though.

quartz gull Nov 30, 2021, 12:08 AM

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I'm getting tempted to drop $1000 on a 3070 + new PSU again

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Used mining 3070 looking very tempting for $900

cerulean rover Nov 30, 2021, 12:10 AM

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I mean

cosmic bluff Nov 30, 2021, 12:10 AM

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pepo_cringe

cerulean rover Nov 30, 2021, 12:10 AM

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that's like the price of a scalped 3070

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so uh

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don't know why you want to go used

cosmic bluff Nov 30, 2021, 12:10 AM

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900 yikes

quartz gull Nov 30, 2021, 12:12 AM

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its a ftw3 tho

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chonky

cosmic bluff Nov 30, 2021, 1:44 AM

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Not as chonky as the asus x noctua 3070

rustic pulsar Nov 30, 2021, 2:00 AM

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Not as chunky as yo mama

cosmic bluff Nov 30, 2021, 2:06 AM

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stressed how can ashes be that chonky

ivory herald Nov 30, 2021, 2:39 AM

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i missed most of loord of the rings when they walk in front of the tv

pallid nova Nov 30, 2021, 3:19 AM

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so my new laptop (i7 11800H) says that it has an intel (R) UHD integrated. However when I did my research, tiger lake cpus should have Iris Xe integrated. Not sure if they are the same thing. can someone clarify?

vital oriole Nov 30, 2021, 3:21 AM

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The H doesn't have Xe

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Well it's Xe but Intel refers it to UHD

cerulean rover Nov 30, 2021, 3:21 AM

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All I can say is blame Intel

vital oriole Nov 30, 2021, 3:21 AM

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Cause it's crippled Xe

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The U SKUs has stronger Xe variants in em

pallid nova Nov 30, 2021, 3:22 AM

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so its a little worse xe but better 620

cerulean rover Nov 30, 2021, 3:22 AM

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As according to Intel ark, 11800h has UHD graphics, as a part of tiger lake
https://ark.intel.com/content/www/us/en/ark/products/213803/intel-core-i711800h-processor-24m-cache-up-to-4-60-ghz.html

Product Specifications

quick reference guide including specifications, features, pricing, compatibility, design documentation, ordering codes, spec codes and more.

vital oriole Nov 30, 2021, 3:22 AM

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Like 1165G4 or 1165G7

cerulean rover Nov 30, 2021, 3:22 AM

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But alphabet soup has actual xe graphics
https://ark.intel.com/content/www/us/en/ark/products/217187/intel-core-i71195g7-processor-12m-cache-up-to-5-00-ghz.html

Product Specifications

quick reference guide including specifications, features, pricing, compatibility, design documentation, ordering codes, spec codes and more.

vital oriole Nov 30, 2021, 3:22 AM

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It has 32EUs one

pallid nova Nov 30, 2021, 3:23 AM

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cerulean rover But alphabet soup has actual xe graphics https://ark.intel.com/content/www/us/en...

ahh ic

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thanks for the clarification

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rip mobile (laptop not phone) gaming on xe graphics

vital oriole Nov 30, 2021, 3:24 AM

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Wait, you got a laptop with H but no dgpu?

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Somethin like 5800U woulda done the job better

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Or 5700U

heady turtle Nov 30, 2021, 8:21 AM

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fierce canopy i just bought a 6600xt for my upgrade from a rx580

Congrats

heady turtle Nov 30, 2021, 8:22 AM

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quartz gull It's not doing it for 700/900/1000 series cards for some boards. I think it's bi...

Weird hopefully that gets fixed

rustic valley Nov 30, 2021, 3:29 PM

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Hey guys do you think a rtx 3060 ti will bottleneck a 1600 af?

heady turtle Nov 30, 2021, 3:38 PM

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1600 af will bottleneck a 3060 ti yes

fierce canopy Nov 30, 2021, 3:40 PM

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my order for a 6600xt got cancelled

quartz gull Nov 30, 2021, 5:15 PM

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rustic valley Hey guys do you think a rtx 3060 ti will bottleneck a 1600 af?

1600 will bottleneck a potato

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First and second gen Ryzen don't have the best gaming performance

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I'm clearly joking but I wouldn't pair anything over a 1070 with a 1600

normal hawk Nov 30, 2021, 5:16 PM

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well yeah at 1080p. 1600 AF would do fine at 1440p or 4k

magic wing Nov 30, 2021, 5:16 PM

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Debatable

quartz gull Nov 30, 2021, 5:16 PM

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^

rustic valley Nov 30, 2021, 5:16 PM

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Hmmm wel I want rtx

quartz gull Nov 30, 2021, 5:16 PM

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I think you're underestimating how hard the 1600 suffers

rustic valley Nov 30, 2021, 5:16 PM

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I have 1080p

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Sometimes it does ye….

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But it’s running oke

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What if I overclock the 1600 to 4ghz?

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Or higher?

normal hawk Nov 30, 2021, 5:17 PM

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6RuMzhuNQKk&ab_channel=NJTech

YouTube

NJ Tech

Ryzen 5 1600 AF Vs. i5-10400 | RTX 3080 | 1080p and 1440p Gaming Be...

Ryzen 5 1600 AF Vs. i5-10400 | RTX 3080 | 1080p and 1440p Gaming Benchmarks

In this Video I'll Show You Productivity and Gaming Benchmarks of AMD Ryzen 5 1600 AF and intel Core i5-10400 (Both Paired with RTX 3080)

System Specs :
amd Ryzen 5 1600 AF @ Stock/4.2GHz
ASUS Prime X470 Pro Mobo
2*8GB DDR4 CL16 RAM @ 3200MHz

intel Core i5-10400 @ Sto...

▶ Play video

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not much worse than a 10400

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"oh no, I lost 2% fps at 1440p D:"

rustic valley Nov 30, 2021, 5:18 PM

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I don’t even have 1440p

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I have 144hz monitor

normal hawk Nov 30, 2021, 5:19 PM

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rustic valley I don’t even have 1440p

at 1080p its a bottleneck.

rustic valley Nov 30, 2021, 5:19 PM

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Should I just go for 3060?

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Wel i want a 3600 or better later down the road

heady turtle Nov 30, 2021, 5:19 PM

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normal hawk well yeah at 1080p. 1600 AF would do fine at 1440p or 4k

With a lower power card sure but with a 3060 ti weggCringe

heady turtle Nov 30, 2021, 5:20 PM

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quartz gull I think you're underestimating how hard the 1600 suffers

1600 af is better, basically a 2600

normal hawk Nov 30, 2021, 5:20 PM

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heady turtle With a lower power card sure but with a 3060 ti <:weggCringe:903404186425782312>

The video I posted is using a 3080

quartz gull Nov 30, 2021, 5:20 PM

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Well you'd lose about 20% performance with a 1600 versus a more capable cpu

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Depends on title

magic wing Nov 30, 2021, 5:20 PM

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normal hawk "oh no, I lost 2% fps at 1440p D:"

You of all people should know that frame times are a lot more important than average fps

quartz gull Nov 30, 2021, 5:20 PM

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1600 has very lackluster single core

quartz gull Nov 30, 2021, 5:20 PM

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magic wing You of all people should know that frame times are a lot more important than ave...

^^^^^

heady turtle Nov 30, 2021, 5:21 PM

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normal hawk "oh no, I lost 2% fps at 1440p D:"

The 1% lows aren't great, that's the real issue imo

quartz gull Nov 30, 2021, 5:21 PM

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rustic valley Should I just go for 3060?

Also what memory are you running?

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This is a very important question for first and second gen ryzen

heady turtle Nov 30, 2021, 5:22 PM

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rustic valley Should I just go for 3060?

Get whichever one you can for closest to msrp

quartz gull Nov 30, 2021, 5:24 PM

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Even with a bottle neck

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An MSRP 3080 will perform better than a scalper 3060 of the same price

rustic valley Nov 30, 2021, 5:59 PM

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I am running g skill sticks on 3200mhz I can clock them higher

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16gb*

cerulean rover Nov 30, 2021, 6:01 PM

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ok

jaunty dome Nov 30, 2021, 7:17 PM

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Would there be any bottle necking with a i7 9700k and a 3070?

heady turtle Nov 30, 2021, 7:17 PM

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That would be fine

jaunty dome Nov 30, 2021, 7:19 PM

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Alright thanks

quartz gull Nov 30, 2021, 8:37 PM

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Odds of me finding a 1650 without external power connectors for $150-200 used?

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My littlest sister has an i7 8700 prebuilt and is getting a quest 2 for Christmas and wants to play games not on the quest store

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No external power connectors so I want a 1650

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Only spare 75 watt card I have is a 950 which is no where near strong enough lol

quartz gull Nov 30, 2021, 8:43 PM

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jaunty dome Would there be any bottle necking with a i7 9700k and a 3070?

9700k would be able to handle a 3090, you'll be fine.

twin dove Nov 30, 2021, 8:45 PM

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quartz gull Odds of me finding a 1650 without external power connectors for $150-200 used?

1050 ti is pretty common for that price

quartz gull Nov 30, 2021, 8:53 PM

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1050ti is a bit slow for VR imo

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I could easily get a 1050ti for around $120 but I want to go for a 1650

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We're talking a 40% improvement

magic wing Nov 30, 2021, 8:57 PM

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Get a 970 for like 160$

twin dove Nov 30, 2021, 9:09 PM

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He needs something that only uses pcie power

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I believe

quartz gull Nov 30, 2021, 9:14 PM

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Yeah

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The board uses a non standard PSU motherboard 12 volt 6 pin input

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It's an HP prebuilt

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So I can't just change out the power supply either

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At that point I'd need a new motherboard, case (motherboard has front IO hooked to it so it's nonstandard size, so the case has non standard mounting holes) and powersupply to upgrade the GPU

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So overall it's just better to get a 75 watt gpu

quartz gull Nov 30, 2021, 9:19 PM

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magic wing Get a 970 for like 160$

970's are $100. I have 3 on Facebook marketplace selling them for $80-100 near me

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I've never seen a 970 more than $120 without it being eBay level pricing LOL

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Yeah that's 3 listings near me for $100 @magic wing . Not worth $160

deft isle Nov 30, 2021, 10:19 PM

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man I wish that i was near Colorado. Im on the other side of the Country.

terse verge Nov 30, 2021, 11:23 PM

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$580 for a gtx 1080 way too much?

sweet mortar Nov 30, 2021, 11:38 PM

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ye

rustic valley Nov 30, 2021, 11:39 PM

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True

quartz gull Nov 30, 2021, 11:39 PM

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deft isle man I wish that i was near Colorado. Im on the other side of the Country.

There's currently 5 970's within 40 miles of Denver for $120 or under

rustic valley Nov 30, 2021, 11:39 PM

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U guys are lucky whit those deals 2nd hand

quartz gull Nov 30, 2021, 11:39 PM

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Eh

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What I'm used to

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75 watt GPUs are so much more pricy though

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Like a 1050 2gb fetches more than a 970 over here

rustic valley Nov 30, 2021, 11:40 PM

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Wel here we dont even have a 1050 2gb

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One tis for overpriced

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Ti s*

delicate spoke Nov 30, 2021, 11:49 PM

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I find my pc is under performing in Warzone, even on lower settings. I should be getting around 200fps in 1080p but im not. i9-10900k, 3080, 16 gigs of 3600mhz. any idea of what I can do to fix this?

deft isle Dec 1, 2021, 12:01 AM

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quartz gull There's currently 5 970's within 40 miles of Denver for $120 or under

I’m in New York 🙃

steady acorn Dec 1, 2021, 12:35 AM

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delicate spoke I find my pc is under performing in Warzone, even on lower settings. I should be...

Whats your gou utilization

normal hawk Dec 1, 2021, 1:04 AM

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delicate spoke I find my pc is under performing in Warzone, even on lower settings. I should be...

Do you have raytracing on? and is your render resolution accidentally higher than 1080p? (mine liked jumping to 4k)

ivory herald Dec 1, 2021, 1:11 AM

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@quartz gullYou have some crazy flippin deals where you are overall it seeems. btw, last year or whenever, my 970 fetched $160 (exactly what I purchased it for in the past). --I'm just wondering how long I can hang onto my 1080 before I'd actually lose much when I go to sell. lul Awkward

tawdry sky Dec 1, 2021, 2:40 AM

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Okay, y'all, so I got a new graphics card and it's not turning on with my pc. It's plugged into the power supply and the correct slot. I got it refurbished and I'm kinda scared that it's broken

ivory herald Dec 1, 2021, 2:46 AM

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pc otherwise turns on ok? 1st thing id do is completely remove it then reinstall and make sure all power cables are firm plugged in.

terse verge Dec 1, 2021, 2:46 AM

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yep and also retrace your steps and make sure you didn't make any simple mistakes that you might easily overlook.

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such as accidentally unplugging a wire etc

tawdry sky Dec 1, 2021, 2:47 AM

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Doing that now. And yeah, everything else is peachy

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Nothing. Everything's in fine

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Still won't turn on

terse verge Dec 1, 2021, 2:53 AM

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The rest of the pc should turn on without the gpu, rgb, fans and such, do you mean nothing at all is turning on or just the screen isn't turning on?

tawdry sky Dec 1, 2021, 2:57 AM

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The fans aren't running and my monitor isn't receiving any signal from the gpu

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Oh, I mean the gpu itself is not turning on, everything else is going fine

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Using an old GPU for now I guess. 2Gs sucks...

ivory herald Dec 1, 2021, 3:17 AM

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SuhnuvvaBiscuit

keen nacelle Dec 1, 2021, 3:22 AM

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What gpu did you buy and for how much

terse verge Dec 1, 2021, 3:22 AM

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I believe they had a gpu then they got it refurbished.

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and now it is not working.

terse verge Dec 1, 2021, 4:00 AM

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how would I go about hunting a gpu at best buy, like what days do they normally restock, what time should I be there etc.

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I've heard of the app trick but is there more to it or?

tawdry sky Dec 1, 2021, 4:17 AM

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Yo it's working now, I don't know what I did, but its workin

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Nvm, only the fans are running now. I'm still not getting a signal. I got an MSI 580 for around 300

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I figured it out. It's bent on the teeth that stick into the pciex slot. It's so heavy that it slowly drooped down over time and became a little disconnected at the end of the socket. I'm gonna a have to prop it up or get a string to raise it a bit...

magic wing Dec 1, 2021, 4:23 AM

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tawdry sky I figured it out. It's bent on the teeth that stick into the pciex slot. It's so...

You have legos?

tawdry sky Dec 1, 2021, 4:23 AM

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Yeah

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That's a great idea

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Well, the only Legos I have are in sets right now... I'll figure somethin out. It's been an odd adventure, lads, lmao

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I used a bunch of the zip ties that came with my case. It looks kinda cool actually

terse verge Dec 1, 2021, 4:42 AM

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Nice, I hoped it was a simple issue that you'd be able to troubleshoot easily enough.

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Good thing you found the solution.

empty sierra Dec 1, 2021, 5:11 AM

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yo

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amd 6600 or 3060

tawdry sky Dec 1, 2021, 5:11 AM

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I'm happy I fixed it lol, that would have been so much money gone to waste

vital oriole Dec 1, 2021, 5:40 AM

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empty sierra amd 6600 or 3060

3060

quartz gull Dec 1, 2021, 5:50 AM

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ivory herald <@!459149078182232064>You have some crazy flippin deals where you are overall it...

I bought a 950 2gb last year for $50

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It just seems like the used GPU price over here is lower

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I've been scammed 3 times by eBay buyers so I don't eBay sell anymore. 2 of them said it wasn't what they ordered and they get a full refund and are able to send junk back. Ebay always sides with the buyer

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I never ever ship anything anymore and I think a lot of people over here feel the same way, hence the lower prices

quartz gull Dec 1, 2021, 5:52 AM

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empty sierra amd 6600 or 3060

3060 has more features and vram, but but whatever you can find close to msrp

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Also be warned you'll want pcie 4.0 for full performance of the 6600 since it uses a pcie x8 link.l instead of x16 like every other graphics card. It performs around 5-15% lower with a 3.0 link.

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Guys help

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I have had an 8 ounce glass of fireball and am looking at scalped 3060tis

ivory herald Dec 1, 2021, 7:06 AM

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quartz gull I have had an 8 ounce glass of fireball and am looking at scalped 3060tis

I'd also be looking at an upgrade if I happen to get a sale lined up for this ol 10 series. Actually I should start hunting now considering sporadic sales. 2 gen behind is the most I'd like to be, or swap to the Ti 😅

summer birch Dec 1, 2021, 7:18 AM

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Does anybody know if there's a way to find trades for graphics cards? I wanted to build a PC with the velkase 3 case but my current EVGA GeForce RTX 3060 XC is too big for it, so I've been looking for a PALIT RTX 3060 StormX, MSI GeForce RTX 3060 AERO ITX 12G OC, or a PNY GEFORCE RTX 3060 12GB XLR8 GAMING REVEL EPIC-X RGB SINGLE FAN.

timid narwhal Dec 1, 2021, 7:19 AM

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summer birch Does anybody know if there's a way to find trades for graphics cards? I wanted t...

would be eaiser and cheaper to get a new case tbh

summer birch Dec 1, 2021, 7:19 AM

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I already have a PC built with a mini ITX I just wanted to make it smaller

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I've been running some on campus tournaments and I don't have a car so if I want to bring my own PC I have to lug around my current case

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which is pretty small

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but like, I wanna be able to fit my PC in a bag

timid narwhal Dec 1, 2021, 7:21 AM

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what case you have now?

summer birch Dec 1, 2021, 7:24 AM

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a Fractal Nano S

quartz gull Dec 1, 2021, 11:03 AM

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Why is the 3080tis on the Newegg shuffle $2100... I can legit buy a cheaper scalper 3080ti locally...

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No cap you can get 3080tis for cheaper on eBay than on the shuffle... I want to know what Newegg is thinking

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I thought the point of shuffle was to avoid scalper level prices

woeful stump Dec 1, 2021, 12:15 PM

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Professional opinion on 1660 ti anyone?
Worth buying in 2021? I'm a 1080 resolution

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Gamer

keen nacelle Dec 1, 2021, 12:16 PM

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woeful stump Professional opinion on 1660 ti anyone? Worth buying in 2021? I'm a 1080 resolut...

Depends on price you're paying for it

woeful stump Dec 1, 2021, 12:16 PM

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So it's a good card for today's standards somewhat

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Just the price

keen nacelle Dec 1, 2021, 12:16 PM

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Yes

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The market is screwed

woeful stump Dec 1, 2021, 12:17 PM

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Yeah I know

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I have to use freight forwarding since I'm not from US.

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So I have to watch price and AND paying to have it shipped internationally lol

heady turtle Dec 1, 2021, 12:20 PM

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woeful stump So it's a good card for today's standards somewhat

It depends what your definition of good is and how much you'd be paying for it

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But you're only gonna get an okay price on it used

woeful stump Dec 1, 2021, 12:20 PM

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Well I was gunning for 3000 series

timid narwhal Dec 1, 2021, 12:20 PM

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woeful stump Professional opinion on 1660 ti anyone? Worth buying in 2021? I'm a 1080 resolut...

yup. wokrs just fine. 1080p no porblem

woeful stump Dec 1, 2021, 12:20 PM

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But

woeful stump Dec 1, 2021, 12:20 PM

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keen nacelle The market is screwed

This

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My specs are simple noting crazy.

Asus tuf b450m-pro
R7 3700x
16gb ballistics 3200mhz
2tb ssd
Current gpu lol 1030 2gb

timid narwhal Dec 1, 2021, 12:36 PM

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my wife runs a 1660ti on a B450 tuf, with 16gb 3200, and a R2600. no complaints

fervent heart Dec 1, 2021, 3:19 PM

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I'm sorry, may I ask a question?

ASUS Z690 APEX
is
Multi-GPU:
Support NVIDIA 2-Way SLI Technology?

keen nacelle Dec 1, 2021, 3:20 PM

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Sli is useless for gaming, if that's what you're doing

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Also sli is dead

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But the new version nvlink is still useless for gaming

fervent heart Dec 1, 2021, 3:22 PM

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I know it is useless.
It would be helpful to know if SLI is possible or not.

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The ASUS Z590 APEX says in the spec that it is SLI capable.

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The ASUS Z690 APEX doesn't have an SLI item in the spec.

lofty crane Dec 1, 2021, 3:30 PM

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I'm looking for a decent 4gb-6gb used graphics card if anyone knows

heady turtle Dec 1, 2021, 3:34 PM

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fervent heart I know it is useless. It would be helpful to know if SLI is possible or not.

Sli is possible on any board with the right spacing of the pcie slots these days

heady turtle Dec 1, 2021, 3:35 PM

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lofty crane I'm looking for a decent 4gb-6gb used graphics card if anyone knows

960/970/980 (ti)/1060 6gb/1070 should do the trick then

lofty crane Dec 1, 2021, 3:37 PM

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Where should I have a look?

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I have a 1650, would that distrup my gaming?

fervent heart Dec 1, 2021, 3:39 PM

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heady turtle Sli is possible on any board with the right spacing of the pcie slots these days

Thank you for your help.
Thank you for your answer.
I wonder why ASUS Z690 lost the SLI notation. This is the source of confusion like mine.

heady turtle Dec 1, 2021, 3:40 PM

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lofty crane Where should I have a look?

I'd look on eBay, Facebook marketplace, r/hardwareswap

heady turtle Dec 1, 2021, 3:40 PM

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fervent heart Thank you for your help. Thank you for your answer. I wonder why ASUS Z690 lost ...

Probably just because it's so dead, also very little point buying the apex fyi

fervent heart Dec 1, 2021, 3:43 PM

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heady turtle Probably just because it's so dead, also very little point buying the apex fyi

I think the 3090 will be the last SLI.
The 3090super doesn't have an SLI port.

magic wing Dec 1, 2021, 3:44 PM

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3090 super is also not a thing so it doesnt have any ports including power ones

lofty crane Dec 1, 2021, 3:45 PM

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heady turtle I'd look on eBay, Facebook marketplace, r/hardwareswap

Thanks

cerulean rover Dec 1, 2021, 3:58 PM

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fervent heart I think the 3090 will be the last SLI. The 3090super doesn't have an SLI port.

I mean, it's more over nvlink now, sli is probably dead as a protocol now, and getting the SLI ready certification does cost money for licensing, Asus doesn't want to pay for that license, and people aren't looking for it or need it, so they leave it off.

fringe cradle Dec 1, 2021, 4:08 PM

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The RTX 3060 is better than the RTX 2070 or 2080 right?

magic wing Dec 1, 2021, 4:09 PM

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fringe cradle The RTX 3060 is better than the RTX 2070 or 2080 right?

3060 is worse than 2080

keen nacelle Dec 1, 2021, 4:09 PM

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Similar to 2070

fringe cradle Dec 1, 2021, 4:10 PM

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but the 3060 is still good, right?

keen nacelle Dec 1, 2021, 4:11 PM

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Yeah

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Should run a lot of games at 1080 60fps

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Max settings

fringe cradle Dec 1, 2021, 4:12 PM

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It ran Battlefield V with auto: min latency quite well

cerulean rover Dec 1, 2021, 4:12 PM

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should do 1080p144

fervent heart Dec 1, 2021, 4:13 PM

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cerulean rover I mean, it's more over nvlink now, sli is probably dead as a protocol now, and g...

I see.
I understand that it can be left alone, but I would like ASUS to clearly announce whether the 3090 2-way (nvlink or SLI) is possible.
The instruction manual for the Z690 APEX says only that it can do 2-way.

fringe cradle Dec 1, 2021, 4:14 PM

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yeah my new gaming laptop supports 144 hz

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I know that if a display has 360hz, it doesn't mean it supports 360 frames per second, so what does it mean
Is it like the capacity?

spare relic Dec 1, 2021, 4:16 PM

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refresh rate spec

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it will refresh 360 times per second by design

cerulean rover Dec 1, 2021, 4:17 PM

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fervent heart I see. I understand that it can be left alone, but I would like ASUS to clearly ...

I mean, afaik NVLink doesn't need motherboard support now, it's just a GPU-GPU interface that doesn't use the PCIe interface

heady turtle Dec 1, 2021, 4:18 PM

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That's correct ^

cerulean rover Dec 1, 2021, 4:19 PM

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(not too sure on "sli over nvlink" or whatever NVidia uses on 2080tis and onwards)

heady turtle Dec 1, 2021, 4:20 PM

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fringe cradle I know that if a display has 360hz, it doesn't mean it supports 360 frames per s...

Monitors support any fps, they don't have anything to do with fps, that's all your pc

fervent heart Dec 1, 2021, 4:23 PM

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cerulean rover I mean, afaik NVLink doesn't need motherboard support now, it's just a GPU-GPU i...

In other words, the ASUS Z690
You can't do SLI on the 2080ti
But it can do 3090 NVLink.

normal hawk Dec 1, 2021, 5:05 PM

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RTX 2000 had NVlink as well 2070 super, 2080 super and 2080 ti.

cerulean rover Dec 1, 2021, 5:29 PM

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Yea 2080ti had sli over NVlink, however that works

normal hawk Dec 1, 2021, 5:32 PM

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thats super weird

quartz gull Dec 1, 2021, 7:21 PM

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timid narwhal yup. wokrs just fine. 1080p no porblem

Famous last words

dreamy dragonBOT Dec 1, 2021, 8:47 PM

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KAPITAN#9546 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

ivory herald Dec 2, 2021, 1:29 AM

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woeful stump Professional opinion on 1660 ti anyone? Worth buying in 2021? I'm a 1080 resolut...

Not quite a 1080, but yes decent for most games at 1080P. Hopefully you find an alright price.

lone pond Dec 2, 2021, 2:25 AM

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https://imgur.com/GqowZiI

Imgur

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now fits in an ITX case ^

fossil jungle Dec 2, 2021, 4:48 AM

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Wow

sour hazel Dec 2, 2021, 12:05 PM

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Laugh out loudly

sweet wing Dec 2, 2021, 12:37 PM

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Extremely smart to do 🙂

hot folio Dec 2, 2021, 12:57 PM

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lone pond https://imgur.com/GqowZiI

It’s gigabyte so it’s ok

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kekw

timid narwhal Dec 2, 2021, 12:58 PM

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fighting words

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heady turtle Dec 2, 2021, 1:06 PM

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timid narwhal

Thank you for vert mounting properly lol

timid narwhal Dec 2, 2021, 1:06 PM

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what you mean?

heady turtle Dec 2, 2021, 1:07 PM

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timid narwhal what you mean?

Not right up against the glass lol

timid narwhal Dec 2, 2021, 1:08 PM

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yes, that cos its a bracket made for that case specifically. LianLi does things right

ashen nacelle Dec 2, 2021, 3:10 PM

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Best Buy graphics cards are out

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Buy now

hollow shadow Dec 2, 2021, 3:23 PM

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sounds like a lot of people are stuck in the verification loop

ashen nacelle Dec 2, 2021, 3:27 PM

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Yep. Sadge

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My only hope is that they send another wave today

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Like last time

hollow shadow Dec 2, 2021, 3:56 PM

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they had two drops right after each other but not much luck on either one

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guessing they're done for the day

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ExpressionlessEgg

ashen nacelle Dec 2, 2021, 4:03 PM

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@hollow shadow they probably have 1 more drop

hollow shadow Dec 2, 2021, 4:03 PM

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afternoon drop maybe?

ashen nacelle Dec 2, 2021, 4:11 PM

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Idk

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They usually have 3 drops per day, but sometimes they have 2 drops only

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If they don’t drop another batch in like 15 mins they prob don’t have another drop until another week or so

hollow shadow Dec 2, 2021, 4:18 PM

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yeah it's looking that way

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oh well

quartz gull Dec 2, 2021, 5:21 PM

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Attempt #32 on Newegg shuffle

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Let's hope I get a silly GPU

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That's under $2,000. I can't spend $2,000

hollow shadow Dec 2, 2021, 5:24 PM

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I haven't tried the newegg shuffle the past few times because of the crazy ass prices

cosmic bluff Dec 2, 2021, 10:17 PM

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Ive won a 3080ti off of a newegg shuffle and ive also won a 3060ti as well and both went to other friends

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And ima try to enter once more when theres another pre-waterblocked 30 series card for my brother so i can do his loop and he can render like i do

quartz gull Dec 3, 2021, 1:01 AM

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32 fails lets goooo

quartz gull Dec 3, 2021, 1:02 AM

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hollow shadow I haven't tried the newegg shuffle the past few times because of the crazy ass p...

$600 for a 3060ti seemed pretty reasonable to me tbh

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If intels 1650 super competitor is like $150-200

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at 75 watts

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so no external pins

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I'm buying 5 of them on release

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I have so many machines that need 75 watt gpus rn

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Well if that quarterly report is anything to go off of

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they're going to have substantial numbers ready to go

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It's just a shame they're not making them on their intel 10nm process

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Intel can crank out so many more chips that way

livid idol Dec 3, 2021, 1:33 AM

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Intel is releasing 3-4 GPUs one at a time starting from their top model. It'll be a long time before the low end one comes, 2023 at the earliest.

keen nacelle Dec 3, 2021, 1:35 AM

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livid idol Intel is releasing 3-4 GPUs one at a time starting from their top model. It'll b...

jeez

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at that point whatll be the point of the low end ones

hollow shadow Dec 3, 2021, 1:49 AM

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quartz gull $600 for a 3060ti seemed pretty reasonable to me tbh

That actually is a decent price for a GPU

hollow shadow Dec 3, 2021, 1:50 AM

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quartz gull It's just a shame they're not making them on their intel 10nm process

Definitely a little disappointing but if this helps improve the chances of getting a GPU then I’m all for it tbh

livid idol Dec 3, 2021, 1:56 AM

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keen nacelle at that point whatll be the point of the low end ones

It's their first real attempt, they're starting from ground zero even lower than AMD did when they moved to RDNA

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It's all a learning experience for them, and they can afford to bide some time because the shortage isn't going away any time soon.

normal hawk Dec 3, 2021, 1:59 AM

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quartz gull $600 for a 3060ti seemed pretty reasonable to me tbh

Which model is it? the Asus one? or is it a Ventus?

livid idol Dec 3, 2021, 2:03 AM

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Ventus 2x is fine for 3060ti, just not 3070+

normal hawk Dec 3, 2021, 2:03 AM

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fair

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I want a phoenix fan 3050 thats 75W

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please ASUS

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think of the tiny tiny itx sff pcs that could be

quartz gull Dec 3, 2021, 2:16 AM

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livid idol Ventus 2x is fine for 3060ti, just not 3070+

The ventus cooler can't even cool my 2060 btw

livid idol Dec 3, 2021, 2:16 AM

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In what case though?

quartz gull Dec 3, 2021, 2:16 AM

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I thermally throttle in a be quiet purbase 500dx case (has pretty good airflow) if I don't raise the thermal limit to 87 degrees

quartz gull Dec 3, 2021, 2:17 AM

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livid idol In what case though?

bequiet purebase 500dx isn't a bad airflow case either

livid idol Dec 3, 2021, 2:17 AM

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Yeah that's not bad. It doesn't align with what I've seen elsewhere so idk what's going on there.

quartz gull Dec 3, 2021, 2:18 AM

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livid idol Yeah that's not bad. It doesn't align with what I've seen elsewhere so idk what'...

Repasted with kyronaut too

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before the repaste it was legit hitting only 1750mhz on core at an 87 degree limit

quartz gull Dec 3, 2021, 2:19 AM

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livid idol Yeah that's not bad. It doesn't align with what I've seen elsewhere so idk what'...

The ventus line is just really really bad coolers. It's their "msrp" line typically (before 3000 series at least)

vital oriole Dec 3, 2021, 2:20 AM

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ventus x2 is bad, x3 is decent

quartz gull Dec 3, 2021, 2:20 AM

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x3 seems better

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but at the same time

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it's 50% more cooler LOL

vital oriole Dec 3, 2021, 2:20 AM

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it naturally has to be better, yep

quartz gull Dec 3, 2021, 2:20 AM

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I got the 2060 2x ventus for $225 so I'm not complaining that much

vital oriole Dec 3, 2021, 2:20 AM

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if not then i dunno what to say

normal hawk Dec 3, 2021, 2:23 AM

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450$(tax included) for a used 2070 super before the shortage

livid idol Dec 3, 2021, 2:23 AM

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quartz gull I got the 2060 2x ventus for $225 so I'm not complaining that much

Slap an AIO kit on it

normal hawk Dec 3, 2021, 2:24 AM

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NZXT's AIO bracket is pretty good.

quartz gull Dec 3, 2021, 2:24 AM

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This was in july 2019

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back when everyone was going

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"20 series bad"

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and buying used 10 series instead

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used 2060's were like $250

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I was thinking of selling my current 2060 for $450 and just buying a scalped 3060ti

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at that point it's an msrp 3060ti

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that's a shame

livid idol Dec 3, 2021, 2:26 AM

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2070 Gaming Z is easily the best

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Top scores on every bench site

quartz gull Dec 3, 2021, 2:27 AM

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I still can't believe I declined a friend's used 2080ti for $450...

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I wanted the 3070

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so I told him I was going to wait for that

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and then the demand blew up in a few weeks

livid idol Dec 3, 2021, 2:27 AM

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Too bad we couldn't have known what would happen

quartz gull Dec 3, 2021, 2:28 AM

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To me the better dlss and raytraced performance was worth it since I like my eye candy

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I keep reflecting on me declining it

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how are you getting all the gpus

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I tried to do the best buy in store drops

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my best buy does in store drops

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but people camp out 72 hours before the cards drop

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literally days before the fridays

hollow shadow Dec 3, 2021, 2:29 AM

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BB drops and shuffle

quartz gull Dec 3, 2021, 2:29 AM

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lost my 32nd shuffle today

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I guess I'm really unlucky lol

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bb drops would be so nice

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especially the friday in store drops

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but too many people camp out

hollow shadow Dec 3, 2021, 2:29 AM

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There’s a MC also near my job so sometimes I’ll pop in there to see if they have any GPU’s in

quartz gull Dec 3, 2021, 2:30 AM

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I tried to do denver microcenter too but the denver microcenter has really bad lines on drop days

livid idol Dec 3, 2021, 2:30 AM

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I got a 3080 ti FE from BB in person drop. I only had to camp for 16 hours too, I was like #50 in line

quartz gull Dec 3, 2021, 2:30 AM

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I live 20 minutes from the denver microcenter

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but they never have cards .-.

normal hawk Dec 3, 2021, 2:30 AM

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I won a 5950x (didn't buy it), an Xbox series S (bought it), 2 different 3060's (didn't buy them), 11900k (didn't buy it), and a 3070 ti (didn't buy it)

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😆

quartz gull Dec 3, 2021, 2:30 AM

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I bought a series s too

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I got in 2 days into looking for a new xbox

normal hawk Dec 3, 2021, 2:31 AM

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I like the XSS.

quartz gull Dec 3, 2021, 2:31 AM

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Yeah

normal hawk Dec 3, 2021, 2:31 AM

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Use it more than my PS5 NGL.

livid idol Dec 3, 2021, 2:31 AM

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Xbone isn't as hard to find as PS5

quartz gull Dec 3, 2021, 2:31 AM

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In the 7 years I owned an xbox one I never bought a single physical disk for it

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so I just went with an s

normal hawk Dec 3, 2021, 2:31 AM

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I have discs, but i also own them all digitally.

livid idol Dec 3, 2021, 2:31 AM

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livid idol Xbone isn't as hard to find as PS5

Silly autocorrect, that's the old model

quartz gull Dec 3, 2021, 2:31 AM

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how tf are you guys winning the shuffle

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I legit

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have done it 32 times

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and haven't won

normal hawk Dec 3, 2021, 2:32 AM

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I used to enter all of them for every item

quartz gull Dec 3, 2021, 2:32 AM

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I need to know the hecc I'm doing wrong here

livid idol Dec 3, 2021, 2:32 AM

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I won a shuffle too, but it was a 3090 no one wanted lol
And for good reason

quartz gull Dec 3, 2021, 2:32 AM

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I AM ENTERING FOR EVERY ITEM

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lol

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My luck is just terrible

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but eh

normal hawk Dec 3, 2021, 2:32 AM

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And then I'd ask if anyone wanted what i won. They'd say no so I'd let it pass

quartz gull Dec 3, 2021, 2:32 AM

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with dlss I don't see this 2060 performing too bad for 1080p high refresh rate

normal hawk Dec 3, 2021, 2:33 AM

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Shockingly enough, the 3090 and 3080 ti i have weren't in shuffle, just available in Newegg on bundles.

quartz gull Dec 3, 2021, 2:33 AM

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I want a 3070

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I was considering dropping $1000 drunk the other night for a scalped 3070

normal hawk Dec 3, 2021, 2:34 AM

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Both were with mid high to high end mobos.

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Nah don't do it

quartz gull Dec 3, 2021, 2:34 AM

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I been looking for over a year

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I didn't even want a 2060 I wanted a 2080 and I settled for a 60 card due to it being $225 lol

cosmic bluff Dec 3, 2021, 2:34 AM

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I wish zotac would drop their dark matter series so i can just have a anti rgb build

quartz gull Dec 3, 2021, 2:34 AM

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I been craving that 165hz 1080p ultra settings for like ever

livid idol Dec 3, 2021, 2:34 AM

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Wegg bundles are good to look at too, might get one with a gen 4 ssd or something equally useless but hey, it's a gpu

normal hawk Dec 3, 2021, 2:35 AM

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I spent 1.4k on. A 3080 ti, + the cost of a Mobo. The Mobo is now in my sister's PC and is worth more than her CPU lol

quartz gull Dec 3, 2021, 2:35 AM

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cosmic bluff I wish zotac would drop their dark matter series so i can just have a anti rgb b...

I have an anti rgb build. Everything is dark themed. My case rgb is just off

livid idol Dec 3, 2021, 2:35 AM

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cosmic bluff I wish zotac would drop their dark matter series so i can just have a anti rgb b...

Zotac are pre-scalping their cards. Some are near double msrp on their site.

normal hawk Dec 3, 2021, 2:35 AM

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6600xts are in a good point imo

livid idol Dec 3, 2021, 2:36 AM

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I'm in agreement there

quartz gull Dec 3, 2021, 2:36 AM

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I used to have that mentality as a kid but as I've gotten older I don't really have the satisfaction of getting by anymore

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Idk how to put it

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it's like I've spoiled myself in a way

cosmic bluff Dec 3, 2021, 2:36 AM

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livid idol Zotac are pre-scalping their cards. Some are near double msrp on their site.

I could sell my 3090 for their msrp or lower and save a little for the vanta black gpu

quartz gull Dec 3, 2021, 2:36 AM

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The more and more I upgrade the less willing I am to no longer have the high end

normal hawk Dec 3, 2021, 2:37 AM

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Wait WTF newegg

#

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1660 super + gen 4 SSD for almost 1000$????

quartz gull Dec 3, 2021, 2:37 AM

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Neweggs prices the last 3 weeks have been ridiculous

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there was this one shuffle where there were $800 3060ti's

normal hawk Dec 3, 2021, 2:38 AM

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I haven't been watching cause I'm going to microcenter on Sunday

quartz gull Dec 3, 2021, 2:38 AM

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the denver microcenter sucks with gpu drops

normal hawk Dec 3, 2021, 2:38 AM

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I'm so glad i decided to buy things earlier in the shortage when i was able to. Prices have just gone up

quartz gull Dec 3, 2021, 2:38 AM

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I don't wanna wait until holiday 2023...

normal hawk Dec 3, 2021, 2:38 AM

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I guess that Would be worse than a good mobo. Harder to resell

quartz gull Dec 3, 2021, 2:38 AM

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the gpu shortage is going to continue until holiday 2023

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I've decided I'd rather not wait another 2 years to upgrade

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There is no way the shortage isn't going to continue until 2023. The demand will just keep increasing until those new fabs come online.

normal hawk Dec 3, 2021, 2:40 AM

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Honestly if you can afford it, this ain't so bad https://www.newegg.com/asrock-radeon-rx-6900-xt-rx6900xt-ocf-16g/p/N82E16814930057

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1549 for a 6900xt

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If you don't need DLSS or NVENC or are doing 3d modeling (i think amd is still meh on blender) the 6900xt is pretty good.

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As are the rest of the and cards tbh

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Besides the 6700xt. Bad price point

quartz gull Dec 3, 2021, 2:42 AM

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I really really want high raytracing performance

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like it takes priority for me

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I enable rt on a 2060...

livid idol Dec 3, 2021, 2:42 AM

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Yeah definitely all worth considering. The majority won't need those features and by the time they do need it, AMD will have their open source DLSS-like thing set up

normal hawk Dec 3, 2021, 2:42 AM

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Ah. It has RT but not as good 🤔

quartz gull Dec 3, 2021, 2:42 AM

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Yeah

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but honestly

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It's not bad

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AMD cards are good

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Just I'm looking for feature sets too

livid idol Dec 3, 2021, 2:43 AM

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RT is still mostly a gimmick. Very poor support and implementation so far

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It's in the works, but we'll see how that goes

quartz gull Dec 3, 2021, 2:43 AM

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Some games it looks really pretty

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FH5 it looks very pretty

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but I'm running at 40fps 1080p LOL

normal hawk Dec 3, 2021, 2:43 AM

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Forza is so pretty on my UW

quartz gull Dec 3, 2021, 2:44 AM

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forza with the extreme preset and rtx is just

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mmmm

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even at 40fps

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I don't need 60 for a racing game

livid idol Dec 3, 2021, 2:44 AM

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Some games sure but it's hardly worth buying over AMD for those few games

normal hawk Dec 3, 2021, 2:44 AM

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Not many games support DLSS either tbf

quartz gull Dec 3, 2021, 2:44 AM

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^

livid idol Dec 3, 2021, 2:44 AM

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Exactly

quartz gull Dec 3, 2021, 2:44 AM

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FSR seems pretty good

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I just like my eye candy

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I'm going for max visuals

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even if it's ludicrous

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if that makes sense

livid idol Dec 3, 2021, 2:45 AM

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You really only need the upscale tech for lower end GPUs anyway. The people trying to play 4k at 120 fps are a minority.

vital oriole Dec 3, 2021, 2:45 AM

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well

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fsr works on any gpus tho lel

quartz gull Dec 3, 2021, 2:45 AM

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yeah ik

vital oriole Dec 3, 2021, 2:46 AM

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so gettin nvidia grants you dlss in some titles, and fsr the rest

quartz gull Dec 3, 2021, 2:46 AM

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that's what I'm saying dlss may be a little better but I don't need dlss

livid idol Dec 3, 2021, 2:46 AM

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Yeah I love how AMD showcased it running on a 1060 as a big middle finger to nvidia

quartz gull Dec 3, 2021, 2:46 AM

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if fsr exists

normal hawk Dec 3, 2021, 2:46 AM

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I never enable dlss

quartz gull Dec 3, 2021, 2:46 AM

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Tbh

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quality dlss looks better than dlss off sometimes

vital oriole Dec 3, 2021, 2:46 AM

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dlss is a lot better, but i won't say no more

quartz gull Dec 3, 2021, 2:46 AM

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depends on the game

vital oriole Dec 3, 2021, 2:46 AM

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anyway, yeah, it can look better cause you can make it upscale to 4k

quartz gull Dec 3, 2021, 2:47 AM

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well even compared to native res

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it can look better

vital oriole Dec 3, 2021, 2:47 AM

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true

quartz gull Dec 3, 2021, 2:47 AM

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because of what it can do to rebuild things like text after anti aliasing

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like control is a wonderful example of that

vital oriole Dec 3, 2021, 2:47 AM

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it's like removing aliasing too

quartz gull Dec 3, 2021, 2:47 AM

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the only problem

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is for fast paced motion

livid idol Dec 3, 2021, 2:47 AM

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Control is a really good showcase game for nvidia tech, as it was intended

vital oriole Dec 3, 2021, 2:47 AM

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rtx on in control tho

quartz gull Dec 3, 2021, 2:47 AM

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anything past quality preset looks garbage for motion

vital oriole Dec 3, 2021, 2:48 AM

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god

quartz gull Dec 3, 2021, 2:48 AM

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yeah

vital oriole Dec 3, 2021, 2:48 AM

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that looks amazing

quartz gull Dec 3, 2021, 2:48 AM

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melts my 2060

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My 2060 going to commit self die one of these days for how hard I'm pushing it

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I'm sure it's begging for mercy

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Control gameplay? meh

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control visuals?

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drools

livid idol Dec 3, 2021, 2:48 AM

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Nah I'm sure it'll survive a few more years with regular maintenance

quartz gull Dec 3, 2021, 2:49 AM

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It was more of a joke but yeah

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except I'm kind of raising the temp limit on it

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to do my overclocks

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it's at 87 instead of 83

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like permanently

vital oriole Dec 3, 2021, 2:49 AM

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control was free on epic once

livid idol Dec 3, 2021, 2:49 AM

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Pfft
So? I do that on every GPU I've ever owned

vital oriole Dec 3, 2021, 2:49 AM

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my laptop doesn't stand a chance to run it tho

quartz gull Dec 3, 2021, 2:49 AM

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vital oriole control was free on epic once

It was free last month on prime gaming too btw

livid idol Dec 3, 2021, 2:49 AM

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Free fairly recently too

vital oriole Dec 3, 2021, 2:49 AM

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850m ree

quartz gull Dec 3, 2021, 2:49 AM

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amazon prime has 10ish free games a month

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with 3 usually being big triple a games

vital oriole Dec 3, 2021, 2:50 AM

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i got xbox gamepass

normal hawk Dec 3, 2021, 2:50 AM

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Have you tried streaming from xcloud?

vital oriole Dec 3, 2021, 2:50 AM

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the selection are a lil narrow tbh

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nah, not in the us

normal hawk Dec 3, 2021, 2:50 AM

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Oh

vital oriole Dec 3, 2021, 2:50 AM

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and i don't got controller

quartz gull Dec 3, 2021, 2:50 AM

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their triple a games for this month on prime aren't that good tbh

vital oriole Dec 3, 2021, 2:50 AM

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oh just to add

quartz gull Dec 3, 2021, 2:50 AM

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last month was better

vital oriole Dec 3, 2021, 2:50 AM

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xbox gamepass grants you ea play too

normal hawk Dec 3, 2021, 2:50 AM

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Frostpunk is pretty cool.

vital oriole Dec 3, 2021, 2:51 AM

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once you connect xbox acc to ea

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i tried a few nfs games

normal hawk Dec 3, 2021, 2:51 AM

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And NFS is fun.

quartz gull Dec 3, 2021, 2:51 AM

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Gamepass you can get 3 years for $180 pretty easily

normal hawk Dec 3, 2021, 2:51 AM

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Hot pursuit is the cop one huh?

quartz gull Dec 3, 2021, 2:51 AM

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they still have a 1:1 conversion with gold

vital oriole Dec 3, 2021, 2:51 AM

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it's cop and racer

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you can be either

quartz gull Dec 3, 2021, 2:51 AM

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just get gold for 3 years and upgrade and you'll get 3 years gamepass

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it's gamepass ultimate too

normal hawk Dec 3, 2021, 2:51 AM

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You can also get it for free if you just switch to bing instead of google

vital oriole Dec 3, 2021, 2:51 AM

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i don't like hot pursuit's handling tho

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it's so odd

normal hawk Dec 3, 2021, 2:51 AM

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Microsoft rewards 😜

vital oriole Dec 3, 2021, 2:52 AM

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drifts are hard to manage

quartz gull Dec 3, 2021, 2:52 AM

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normal hawk You can also get it for free if you just switch to bing instead of google

Doesn't newegg have policies against promoting self harm?

vital oriole Dec 3, 2021, 2:52 AM

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i like nfs most wanted 2012 more

normal hawk Dec 3, 2021, 2:52 AM

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Bing is better than Google anyway

vital oriole Dec 3, 2021, 2:52 AM

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but i also got bored of how it forces me to basically

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do races in one car

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then move onto another

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but i gotta admit, the graphics are juicy

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for 2012

quartz gull Dec 3, 2021, 2:53 AM

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google is also my password manager tbf

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Like

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and I own a chromebook

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so like

#

yeah

vital oriole Dec 3, 2021, 2:53 AM

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i had everything turned up except aa

quartz gull Dec 3, 2021, 2:53 AM

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Switching to bing would be kinda hard imo

normal hawk Dec 3, 2021, 2:53 AM

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You can use bing on all of those though

quartz gull Dec 3, 2021, 2:53 AM

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yeah but

vital oriole Dec 3, 2021, 2:53 AM

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i got my ms rewards acc suspended, hah

quartz gull Dec 3, 2021, 2:53 AM

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everything I do is on google

normal hawk Dec 3, 2021, 2:53 AM

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vital oriole i got my ms rewards acc suspended, hah

How?

vital oriole Dec 3, 2021, 2:53 AM

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used vpn and fake phone number to claim a reward

normal hawk Dec 3, 2021, 2:53 AM

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Oof

vital oriole Dec 3, 2021, 2:53 AM

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so yeah, rip

true wren Dec 3, 2021, 2:54 AM

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how trust worthy are the random sellers on new egg that say they ship from china lol

vital oriole Dec 3, 2021, 2:55 AM

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depends on their rating

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and actual customer reviews

true wren Dec 3, 2021, 2:57 AM

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a lot of them say like 70 percent which kinda worries me

quartz gull Dec 3, 2021, 2:57 AM

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does newegg have scam protection like ebay?

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I honestly don't buy much from newegg unless it's more niche tech stuff

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It's always best buy or microcenter

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for me

livid idol Dec 3, 2021, 2:57 AM

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Yes, sort of. Not as good as paypal protection but you can buy with paypal anyway

vital oriole Dec 3, 2021, 2:57 AM

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^

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paypal chargeback should cover your loss

quartz gull Dec 3, 2021, 2:58 AM

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Ebay's protection is really nice, I like buying used stuff

vital oriole Dec 3, 2021, 2:58 AM

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well minus fees

livid idol Dec 3, 2021, 2:58 AM

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Ebay just streamlines the same process paypal uses for claims

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Used to be the same company even

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Until they were forced to separate

vital oriole Dec 3, 2021, 2:59 AM

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ebay is meh for sellers tho

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wasn't there 10% fee?

livid idol Dec 3, 2021, 2:59 AM

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Nah it opened up more options for buying from ebay competitors, a good thing in the end

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There's a fee for straight selling through paypal but I don't think it was 10%

quartz gull Dec 3, 2021, 3:00 AM

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ebay's buyer protection is too strong though, I've been hit by buyer scams twice

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where they buy something, claim it isn't what they bought then send you a random item back

vital oriole Dec 3, 2021, 3:00 AM

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ah

quartz gull Dec 3, 2021, 3:00 AM

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ebay is great for buying but I don't feel as much for selling

livid idol Dec 3, 2021, 3:02 AM

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I protect myself from those buyer scams by videotaping me sealing the box and using invisible marks on the box and item

quartz gull Dec 3, 2021, 3:04 AM

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Like that 4400mhz ddr4 kit that I just bought was $25 per 8gb stick

livid idol Dec 3, 2021, 3:04 AM

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Yeah most of what I buy on ebay is cheap anyway

quartz gull Dec 3, 2021, 3:04 AM

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anywhere else I would have said scam and not bought

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but because it was ebay I went ahead and it was legit

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most of my purchases on ebay have been 75 watt cards

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well actually

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most of my tech purchases have been 75 watt gpus

vital oriole Dec 3, 2021, 3:05 AM

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https://videocardz.com/newz/nvidia-geforce-rtx-3050-rumored-to-feature-8gb-ram-might-compete-with-intel-arc-a380-with-6gb

VideoCardz.com

WhyCry

NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3050 rumored to feature 8GB RAM, might compete w...

NVIDIA, AMD, and Intel are all preparing to compete in the entry-level segment It is truly interesting how suddenly we have information on not one but three entry-level cards from all competing GPU makers. Yet this is exactly what has happened right after the rumors of Radeon RX 6500 XT/6400 have emerged. The most recent […]

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What is this?

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Nvidia at it with wonky vram again

quartz gull Dec 3, 2021, 3:06 AM

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vital oriole Nvidia at it with wonky vram again

Not wonky, forced to compete

vital oriole Dec 3, 2021, 3:06 AM

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desktop 3050 rumored to have 8gb vram

quartz gull Dec 3, 2021, 3:06 AM

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when you have a certain memory bus

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you have to do multiples

vital oriole Dec 3, 2021, 3:06 AM

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but laptop version has half

quartz gull Dec 3, 2021, 3:06 AM

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so like the 3060 for example

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because of how the memory is configured they only had 2 options

vital oriole Dec 3, 2021, 3:06 AM

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yeah i understand

quartz gull Dec 3, 2021, 3:06 AM

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6gb or 12gb

vital oriole Dec 3, 2021, 3:06 AM

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the amount is just weird xD

quartz gull Dec 3, 2021, 3:06 AM

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They were probably aiming for 4

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and had to double it to compete

vital oriole Dec 3, 2021, 3:06 AM

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perhaps

quartz gull Dec 3, 2021, 3:06 AM

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since intel is launching that 6gb 75 watt card

vital oriole Dec 3, 2021, 3:07 AM

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i guess they don't have the 6 gigs vram with certain bus

quartz gull Dec 3, 2021, 3:07 AM

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UPS has delayed all my packages for the past 2 weeks

quartz gull Dec 3, 2021, 3:07 AM

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vital oriole i guess they don't have the 6 gigs vram with certain bus

Yeah it's either 4 or 8 if the leak is correct

vital oriole Dec 3, 2021, 3:07 AM

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shame

quartz gull Dec 3, 2021, 3:07 AM

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I'm just happy we're moving away from 4gb of vram

vital oriole Dec 3, 2021, 3:07 AM

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mobile has the 4 instead

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which is a crying shame lmao

quartz gull Dec 3, 2021, 3:08 AM

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mobile is weaker tbf

vital oriole Dec 3, 2021, 3:08 AM

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it's more obvious on 3050ti

quartz gull Dec 3, 2021, 3:08 AM

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like my 1650ti laptop I never even go over 3gb of vram

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yeah 3050ti is stupid

vital oriole Dec 3, 2021, 3:08 AM

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4 gigs vram bottlenecks it

quartz gull Dec 3, 2021, 3:08 AM

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3050 is reasonable

vital oriole Dec 3, 2021, 3:08 AM

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i suppose so

quartz gull Dec 3, 2021, 3:08 AM

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3050 mobile is reasonable at 4 imo

vital oriole Dec 3, 2021, 3:08 AM

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3050 mobile isn't powerful enough to power 6 gigs

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but the ti, poor thing

quartz gull Dec 3, 2021, 3:09 AM

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3050ti is stoopid

vital oriole Dec 3, 2021, 3:09 AM

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3050ti doesn't need to exist

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if nvidia slaps 4 gigs on it

quartz gull Dec 3, 2021, 3:09 AM

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Well 3050ti is actually a great laptop card

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just needs more vram

vital oriole Dec 3, 2021, 3:09 AM

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yeah

quartz gull Dec 3, 2021, 3:09 AM

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I still reccomend it to people buying laptops that are $800-1000

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there were some black friday laptops with 3050ti's in them for $800

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same price I bought my 1650ti laptop last july. $800 is the best laptop price bracket imo if you're not serious about your performance

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enough for adequate gpu and cpu

vital oriole Dec 3, 2021, 3:10 AM

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3060 laptops have gone 849.99 for a few times

quartz gull Dec 3, 2021, 3:10 AM

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I haven't seen that in a while

vital oriole Dec 3, 2021, 3:11 AM

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specifically the msi gf65

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10500h+3060

livid idol Dec 3, 2021, 3:11 AM

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I forget, did they implement LHR on mobile graphics?

vital oriole Dec 3, 2021, 3:11 AM

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10500h has 6c/12t btw

quartz gull Dec 3, 2021, 3:11 AM

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they're still selling 10th gen mobile cpus?!

vital oriole Dec 3, 2021, 3:11 AM

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not sure tbh

vital oriole Dec 3, 2021, 3:11 AM

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quartz gull they're still selling 10th gen mobile cpus?!

yep

quartz gull Dec 3, 2021, 3:11 AM

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god

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it's like that one laptop that still has a 8250u brand new

vital oriole Dec 3, 2021, 3:11 AM

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but 10500h isn't slow tho

quartz gull Dec 3, 2021, 3:11 AM

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Ik

livid idol Dec 3, 2021, 3:11 AM

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quartz gull they're still selling 10th gen mobile cpus?!

I've even seen some 8th gen ones going for stupid prices

vital oriole Dec 3, 2021, 3:12 AM

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i think lhr isn't a thing on mobile

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sips has two 3070 laptops

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both mines similarly

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one has 10750h, other 11800h

quartz gull Dec 3, 2021, 3:12 AM

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LHR isn't a thing on mobile because the entire thing is limited performance rate

vital oriole Dec 3, 2021, 3:12 AM

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well insane vram makes it mine better than desktop

livid idol Dec 3, 2021, 3:12 AM

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Yeah the biggest difference in their hash rate was the liquid metal repaste
But I don't know if that was before LHR got big

vital oriole Dec 3, 2021, 3:13 AM

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he managed to oc the vram quite a lot

livid idol Dec 3, 2021, 3:13 AM

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Yeah you undervolt that laptop GPU and it can slam +1500 on memory

vital oriole Dec 3, 2021, 3:13 AM

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3070 if 140w is near 3060ti desktop perf

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which is nice

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3080 mobile is a meme tho

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so expensive lmao

quartz gull Dec 3, 2021, 3:14 AM

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A lot of nvidia's mobile gpus are a meme

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3060 isn't bad

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3050 isn't bad either

vital oriole Dec 3, 2021, 3:14 AM

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3060 and 3070 are good ones in 30 mobile imo

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3050ti too but the 4 gigs vram is its issue

quartz gull Dec 3, 2021, 3:14 AM

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3050ti 3070(debatable) and 3080 are memes imo

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3070 is fine but it's so cut down

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from the desktop variant

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that it annoys me they even call it a 3070

vital oriole Dec 3, 2021, 3:15 AM

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i can't buy any laptops rn anyway kek

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might be until 40 series comes

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or 50 idk

quartz gull Dec 3, 2021, 3:16 AM

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the desktop variant being 40% faster in some cases is just

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why even call it a 3070

vital oriole Dec 3, 2021, 3:16 AM

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which 3070 tho

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is it 140w?

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or lower

quartz gull Dec 3, 2021, 3:16 AM

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it has reduced cuda cores too

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like

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reduced cores and reduced clocks

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and in the 3060's case

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reduced vram too

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why not just come up with a different part number??

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I been annoyed ever since the 20 series at their mobile naming

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like the 10 series they'd have some computers will full strength desktop equivalents

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especially 1060's

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and if not they'd specify

vital oriole Dec 3, 2021, 3:18 AM

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radeon is as wack with mobile parts too tho

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also god the mess of r series back then

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both new and rebrand of old stuff

quartz gull Dec 3, 2021, 3:18 AM

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but now it's a

livid idol Dec 3, 2021, 3:18 AM

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Better than Radeon HD days

vital oriole Dec 3, 2021, 3:19 AM

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radeon hd days has it worse, yeah

quartz gull Dec 3, 2021, 3:19 AM

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is that 3070 which is really like a 3060(ti) performance wise the 80/90/120/140 watt variant?

vital oriole Dec 3, 2021, 3:19 AM

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140

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others can't match

quartz gull Dec 3, 2021, 3:19 AM

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yeah ik

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but that's what I'm saying

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how many laptops disclose the wattage?

vital oriole Dec 3, 2021, 3:20 AM

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everyone does these days

livid idol Dec 3, 2021, 3:20 AM

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quartz gull *is that 3070 which is really like a 3060(ti) performance wise the 80/90/120/140...

Yeah I wish they'd standardize that already instead of relying on consumer ignorance to sell more cheap units

vital oriole Dec 3, 2021, 3:20 AM

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thankfully

quartz gull Dec 3, 2021, 3:20 AM

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I meant

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on the store pages

vital oriole Dec 3, 2021, 3:20 AM

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but sellers doesn't like listing it

quartz gull Dec 3, 2021, 3:20 AM

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you always have to dig it

vital oriole Dec 3, 2021, 3:20 AM

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yeah not store

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always has to dig for specs in the site of the laptop

quartz gull Dec 3, 2021, 3:20 AM

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so not only are you screwed comparing desktop to laptop part for part

vital oriole Dec 3, 2021, 3:20 AM

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it's annoying

quartz gull Dec 3, 2021, 3:20 AM

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you have huge performance discrpencies for the same mobile gpu!

vital oriole Dec 3, 2021, 3:20 AM

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normal people wouldn't know any of this

quartz gull Dec 3, 2021, 3:20 AM

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exactly

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that's what makes me the most angry

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I'll always dig for it

vital oriole Dec 3, 2021, 3:21 AM

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razer always has max-q in their stuff

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but people buys em anyway

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but tbf the razer laptops are so thin

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then again why does zephyrus cool better while being thin too lmao

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and allows for higher tgp variants

quartz gull Dec 3, 2021, 3:23 AM

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the 80 watt 3070 literally performs worse than the 115 watt 3060...

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like

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some consumers are really being shafted

vital oriole Dec 3, 2021, 3:24 AM

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that reminds me of tuf dash f15 kekw

quartz gull Dec 3, 2021, 3:24 AM

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I'd pay that rn

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for a 3080ti

vital oriole Dec 3, 2021, 3:24 AM

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it has the best 3060

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but worst 3070

quartz gull Dec 3, 2021, 3:24 AM

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wait

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so the 3060 variant

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performs better??

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of the same laptop??

vital oriole Dec 3, 2021, 3:25 AM

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yeah

quartz gull Dec 3, 2021, 3:25 AM

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HOW DO YOU LET THAT HAPPEN WTF

vital oriole Dec 3, 2021, 3:25 AM

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highest tgp 3060 compared to lowest tgp 3070

quartz gull Dec 3, 2021, 3:25 AM

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here upgrade to a 3070 for a fee ;)

vital oriole Dec 3, 2021, 3:25 AM

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3070 is slower

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big fee too

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price jump is stupid

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^

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"ooh 3070, must be better"

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that's what gets people lel

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they dunno much and don't care to research

livid idol Dec 3, 2021, 3:26 AM

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Exactly what I was saying, relying on consumer ignorance

vital oriole Dec 3, 2021, 3:27 AM

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they're just gonna say "oh but look at our specs page! we list everything here!" when they get questioned

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they definitely know not a lot of people will bother lookin at that

fossil talon Dec 3, 2021, 3:28 AM

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yep

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was about to agree

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lol

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yeah Im dead rn

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I got a final tomorrow

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and three next week