graphics-cards

[glacial kelp]

Sadly it's 150 euros cheaper than anything I can find.

No, 350, 250, hell knows 😄

[fervent star]

lol 😂

[glacial kelp]

Ef that, I am not going to spend more than 500 euros on it. Will patiently wait for my evga turn in 2065

[heady turtle]

Bit on the expensive side but not terrible, 800 is probs the max I'd pay for a 3060 ti yeah

[glacial kelp]

Yes, the price looks decent, compared with others.

[empty compass]

@heady turtle €800 on a 3060 ti is your max?!?! 💀💀

[heady turtle]

Yes

[empty compass]

But it MSRPs at like €300 I think

[heady turtle]

400€

[empty compass]

Ah, well I guess it's a little better, Personally I'm not gonna buy any gpu for double what MSRP is.

Maybe more like 50% more for me.

[dreamy dragon]

Larry#7169 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

[heady turtle]

Absolute max, as some countries it's literally impossible to find a 600€ 3060 ti

[empty compass]

That's crazy, there wouldn't be such a bad gpu shortage if cryptominers bought the Cards they were supposed to instead of buying all of ours.

There's gaming cards and there mining cards, don't take from one to fuel the other is how I see.

Obviously there's more types than just those 2, but I was just pointing out those 2.

[heady turtle]

Yeah no

Crypto miners are majority gamers mining with their gaming pc, I'd say miners are <10% of consumers and its just marketed towards gamers the gpu and mem is the same stuff lol

Also some countries just don't have good economies

[normal hawk]

Like Hungary for example lol. 800€ for a 3060 ti is wayyyy under the local market

[heady turtle]

Same with greece

[livid idol]

Objectively false, because in order to manufacture a mining gpu they need to use the same fabricators and other resources, not to mention time lost retooling the machines. Every mining gpu made is one less gaming gpu.

[gray bloom]

ours is 1k including tax here in canada for 3060ti😂

and half the price for the founders

[glacial kelp]

What's the difference between a 3060 ti and a mini?

[vital oriole]

mini branding is just used for smaller cards

it's the same thing but smaller cooler and pcb

[timid narwhal]

a 3060ti is a computer component that generates binary data into a visual medium through a monitor. a mini is a car

[glacial kelp]

There is a mini at a "decent" price, I am not sure it fits my mobo and if it's the same performance like a normal one

[vital oriole]

Perf should be similar provided your case has good airflow

But it's louder than normal card cause it's got only one fan

[glacial kelp]

Then no.

Thank you

[glacial kelp]

Hm, there was a while back a print screen with gpu brands, and perks for each brand.

Anyone has a link?

Perks like which brands allow the warranty to be transmitted, etc.

Found it in pins. Thanks 😄

[lone pond]

nice, BF1 crashed and is now being dumb and i cant launch it at all.

[heady turtle]

Very battlefield of it

[vital oriole]

It got bored of your 1060

It probably wants a 3060

[lone pond]

yup.

🗿

[sterile zodiac]

So I’m trying to put two graphics cards in my computer. I have a 1060 3gb, and an old xfx r7 240 4gb. The reason is so I can have the 1060 for games and such in windows and Linux, and the 240 is so I can hackintosh macOS Monterey. The problem is, bios isn’t recognizing the 240. It says the pci slot is n/a.

Specs
Msi x470 gaming plus max
Ryzen 5 3400g
16 gb ddr4
Gtx 1060
R7 240 4gb
Skhynix p31 gold nvme
Crucial Mx500

[heady turtle]

Have you tried a different pci slot?

[sterile zodiac]

Due to my motherboard, I don’t think I can. The 1060 is in the top slot, and then the 240 is in the middle x16 slot. The third slot is so close to my case I don’t think it will fit. So I put my WiFi card there.

But I did verify that the 240 works, I put it in by itself yesterday

[heady turtle]

I just mean to make sure it works, like swap with 1060 to check

[magic wing]

Yeah like put 240 in top slot and 1060 in middle

[sterile zodiac]

Okay. I did run the 240 by itself yesterday and it works fine.

Oh okay I’ll try that

[valid bough]

So, best way to cop a 3080?

[sterile zodiac]

Newegg shuffle

[magic wing]

[valid bough]

Yeah but uh, Newegg parts are incredibly overpriced

[magic wing]

Some things cheaper on wegg some on amazon some somewhere else

[green harness]

In my experience Newegg is selling GPUs at about the AIB MSRP. Anytime I have checked EVGA cards they are selling either at EVGA MSRP or $20 more. Same for Zotac. Not all AIBs make it as easy to check their MSRP though
The only meaningful price inflation from Newegg imo is the bundles

[cosmic bluff]

didnt zotac raise the price on their 3090s tho

yeah just checked 2399 for a 3090 trinity oc

i just got a deal then lol from a friendly neighborhood best buy

[glacial kelp]

Ordered one for more or less 808 euros, because of you. Going to sell my 1060 6gb after that, I am not sure how much should I ask. Ideas?

[heady turtle]

Emm you could probably sell 300-400

[glacial kelp]

Gigabyte GeForce® RTX 3060 Ti GAMING OC 2.0 LHR, 8GB GDDR

400??? Wot 😄

Then it's a very good deal

Thanks for the tips and tricks, again. YOu helped me with the rest of the PC too.

[heady turtle]

Happy to help

[heady turtle]

Ntb ntb

[lone pond]

So I’m confused about my GPU.

When using GPU-Z it says this is my graphics card: https://www.techpowerup.com/gpu-specs/his-r9-280x-ipower-iceq-x2-turbo-boost-clock.b2423

The BIOS matches, so does the clock speeds and various other aspects

But... This isn't the card that I have.

[cerulean rover]

What exactly is your GPU physically?

[lone pond]

This: https://www.techpowerup.com/gpu-specs/vtx3d-r9-280-x-edition.b2863

[heady turtle]

Just different and in board partner

[lone pond]

But the clock speeds and bios's are off

Even the core count and TMU count is off

How is this even plausible?

[heady turtle]

The core count can't be off

[cerulean rover]

Ports match

[lone pond]

The iPower IceQ has a blue board. The VTX3D X-Edition has a black motherboard.

[cerulean rover]

Power connector matches

[lone pond]

My GPU has a very distinct BLACK motherboard

[cerulean rover]

Someone before you could've flashed on the newer vbios

[lone pond]

I was thinking at first that maybe that was the case

[cerulean rover]

It looks to be the same chip

[lone pond]

But that wouldn't work with the core and TMU count

Would it?

[cerulean rover]

It might be a case like people flashing rx470 into rx570

[lone pond]

My card would then have only 1792 cores, but the card GPU-Z THINKS I have has 2048

[cerulean rover]

Yes, but generally its either disabled or unusable cores, but the chip itself has all of them

[lone pond]

And GPU-Z itself reports 2048

[cerulean rover]

Its possible its a case where they flashed on a new vbios to make those cores usable

run some benchmarks and see how the scores look too

[lone pond]

So... Previous owner flashed the Bios, and got lucky?

[cerulean rover]

Possible, but run some benchmarks to check scores

[lone pond]

Which one should I run?

Like, is there a specific program I should use for benchmarking and comparing? I'm a little new to this

[cerulean rover]

3dmark is useful, trial mode or whatever will do fine if you don't own it

[cerulean rover]

And I say that's a possible reason

[lone pond]

But doesn't that technically mean my GPU is a broken iPower? Or does it just mean it just so happens my GPU's die can perform just as well as an iPower

If I wanted to, could I flash it back?

[cerulean rover]

...?

[lone pond]

To the stock bios and not the iPower one

[cerulean rover]

I'm not sure

[cerulean rover]

but I mean, that's how binning works on the same chip, like how a 3080 is technically a slightly broken 3090

[lone pond]

Yeah so aren't there reasons why those parts are locked off? Like for stability?

[cerulean rover]

usually its locked off because it just doesn't work

[lone pond]

This card rarely crashes but when undergoing video editing jesus is it unstable

[cerulean rover]

But I feel like in the past they could've been worse at binning, and therefore let something like that slip more often

[lone pond]

Sometimes the memory can show weird corruption when I'm using premiere pro for too long

Like, one of my monitors will show some weird ass corruption but the GPU won't fail or need to reboot, it'll fix itself

[cerulean rover]

wacky

But in general, flashing vbios is always something of an unknown

[lone pond]

And it's only when the Video Encoding graph in task manager is at 100%

[cerulean rover]

If you don't have an alternative, don't do it

If vbios flashing goes wrong, need something else to display things to be able to try and flash it again

[lone pond]

My card also has a switch on the side of it, like one for a dual bios system, and it reports the same card under both bios's

[lone pond]

I have a HD 4000 iGPU that'll be able to output while I fix it if something goes wrong

I also have the 'original' bios that's on the card already saved to a file

[cerulean rover]

More often those are just OC switches (say adds on 100mhz to core or smth) but it might be dual bios

[lone pond]

clock speeds and bios seem to be exactly the same no matter what

And if it was an OC switch I'd be in trouble because this thing can't take any core OC over what it already is

[cerulean rover]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[lone pond]

So... Nobody on 3Dmark has benchmarked with only 1 R9 280x

At least

No one has submitted a score

[heady turtle]

Welp

[lone pond]

Didn't do too bad though, to be honest.

[heady turtle]

If you want something to compare it to look at r7 370's or r9 380s

[clever pagoda]

Anyone know a good gaming pc under 1k usd? for 1080p medium or better than a console

[heady turtle]

If you don't mind open box https://www.newegg.com/abs-ala250-master/p/N82E16883360154R?itemPosition=1-12&exactIndex=0

[clever pagoda]

I just wish that they said if anything was missing from the open boxes :/ cause I mean what if it's missing the power cord lol

[heady turtle]

I extremely doubt they'd ship it without power cable lmao

In the extremely unlikely case they did they're like 10-15$

[clever pagoda]

this was actually gonna be perfect till the reviews said that it overheats and crashes :/

[heady turtle]

It's not that bad, lol there's a bit of side intake and they're low enough power components

[normal hawk]

Reinstall windows and the crashes probably won't happen

I dunno who does the W10 and driver installs for ABS/Wegg. But this fixes any crashes I've seen people complaining about. from them

[stark wave]

What is a good GPU to pair with this build right now?

[toxic sinew]

DO not pay $240 for a 3600 in 2021

[cerulean rover]

What's with that screenshot...?

Extremely bright on my side

[stark wave]

Yea idk

same for me

[cerulean rover]

just send the pcpp link

[toxic sinew]

Nor would I suggest buying an H510 at all ever

[stark wave]

Im not its for a friend

[stark wave]

I like NZXT its what I have

[toxic sinew]

Then don't let him pay that much for a 3600

[stark wave]

I have the H510 Elite

Ive been out of the loop for a year so idk whats good now and what isnt

[cerulean rover]

I wish not to hurt my eyesight to look at that list in that screenshot, but H510 does kinda suck

[stark wave]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/gQP4K3

there

okay then so whats a good PC now that is around $1,000

I mean processor and GPU not entire build

[cerulean rover]

Well, that list is a year or two out of date

[stark wave]

He isnt looking for top-of-the-line

[cerulean rover]

I'm talking out of date even for the budget option

I'll make a list rq

[stark wave]

ight

[toxic sinew]

There are better parts for cheaper than many older overpriced parts

[cerulean rover]

Perhaps something more like this @stark wave
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/wspTXb

400$ placeholder 3060 listing

[stark wave]

Okay what about an AMD build?

[cerulean rover]

that'll happen when AMD makes a competitive 200$ CPU rn :p

11400 just slaps 3600

and has an iGPU

although might want a cooler on it, that'll be around 20$

same list but with se-224-xt now
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/sXfWVc

[stark wave]

will that be good enough to run on average gaming @1440p comfortably for games such as Forza Horizon 5 or Subnautica: Below Zero?

[cerulean rover]

eh

3060 might do 1440p30 on high, maybe 1440p60 on low

[stark wave]

Is there a better processor that can be paired with the 3060 that does meet those requirements?

[cerulean rover]

GPU is the problem here

[stark wave]

say maybe around $350 or less

[cerulean rover]

and GPUs aren't exactly cheap right now

[stark wave]

I know

[cerulean rover]

11400 is pretty decent for the price

If you had extra budget, stuff it into the GPU, maybe a better mobo or cooler, but I don't really think you'll gain much from upgrading CPU beyond 11400

[stark wave]

really?

[cerulean rover]

Considering its a 3060 at 1440p, yes, you'll be heavily GPU bound

[stark wave]

So it doesnt really matter the processor then

I mean

Higher in capabilities

[cerulean rover]

Matter relatively less

[stark wave]

when the 30605 cant handle it

got it

My PC is mis-matched. I have a 3900x paired with a 2070 Super OC so not the best combo but it works nicely

[cerulean rover]

I mean, its not bad

2070 super is superior to 3060 for context btw

[stark wave]

I figured

[cerulean rover]

3060 is about OG 2070

Although DLSS can help it to perform better, raw perf wise, it'll be more a 1440p30 card than anything (triple a titles wise)

[stark wave]

Cool thanls for the help

[cerulean rover]

You're welcome

[stable hemlock]

I could use assistance 😦

Quick question about NVLINK for 3090s

Hopefully I will hear back soon! pretty much, is there a specific motherboard required for NVLINK on rtx 3090s, I looked everywhere for a particular motherboard, only to find that SLI ready is primarily for older SLI setups. I can't seem to find a straight answer. Would appreciate any help with this!

[magic wing]

No mobo requirements

[normal hawk]

Well I mean you'd want 2 slots for a GPU 😅

[livid idol]

You'll need a x16 slot for each gpu and they need to be the right spacing apart for the bridge you intend to use. Ideally you'll want a higher end board with more pci lanes like X570 on AMD or Z590 on Intel.
Besides that, there's no specific boards that are "certified sli ready" any more.

[heady turtle]

Just incase you didn't know nvlink is only useful for non gaming gpu tasks bit no mobo requirements as long as there's 2 x16 slots spaced properly

[timid narwhal]

can someone explain this to me? SLI = gaming. nvlink =?. Im confused because my brother has a 3090 and a 3060 which he uses to render blender scenes. both gpus rendering the same scene simultanously.

[heady turtle]

Nvlink can technically be used for gaming but no point, it can help in some computational type workloads

[timid narwhal]

just to clarify, my brother doesnt use nvlink or sli for his rendering

[glacial kelp]

Question. I have an easeus OS backup with fresh drivers/programs installed that I plan to restore when the 3060ti will arrive. The gpu drivers are for the actual 1060. Should replacing the gpu be 99% safe with the drivers, or it's better to reinstall the OS fresh.

[timid narwhal]

nah, it will be safe

[heady turtle]

I mean yeah he physically cannot lol

[glacial kelp]

Thanks.

[timid narwhal]

I know that, and you know that, but others...

[heady turtle]

I would recommend ddu in safe mode and reinstall the drivers but yeah

Should be fine without using ddu, just safer to use ddu, can't run into 1060 conflicting errors then

[glacial kelp]

DDu? The driver cleaning?

[heady turtle]

AFAIK only some software can utilize it 🤷‍♂️

[heady turtle]

Yes, display driver uninstaller

[glacial kelp]

So, replace GPU, restart in safe mode, run DDU, install 3060ti drivers.

Thanks.

[heady turtle]

Might write i quick how to guide on that in the github actually

[glacial kelp]

You have time until saturday 😄

[heady turtle]

Yep, do the recommended option in ddu, uninstall and restart then you'll be out of safe mode and can reinstall geforce experience

Haha

[glacial kelp]

Wagnar soft or guru3d

[heady turtle]

Wagnar

[glacial kelp]

Thanks

[heady turtle]

Np

[sterile zodiac]

So I continue to try to get my two gpus recognized. I tried the r7 240 in the top slot, and the 1060 in the middle slot. It has the be the slots, because this time only the 240 showed up. And the 1060 wasn’t even seen in bios. I can attach another video of it. It seems suspicious that the pcie slot in board explorer says N/A instead of empty. Any suggestions?

[magic wing]

What mobo exactly?

[sterile zodiac]

It is an MSI x470 Gaming Plus Max

Could it be becuase my Ryzen 5 3400g doesn’t have enough pcie lanes?

[heady turtle]

Nah you should get all the lanes

[dreamy dragon]

SOB Phi-fi#3297 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

[sterile zodiac]

Then is there a setting in bios to enable multiple gpus or something?

[heady turtle]

Not to my knowledge

[sterile zodiac]

I was inclined to think it was a gpu issue, but the fact that only the one in the top slot makes me think it’s the middle slot.

I’ll try my WiFi card there to see it can use it or no

[heady turtle]

Good idea

[winged minnow]

instead of naming ur gpu 3080ti why cant we just name it 3085

what the point of gpu names being soo weird and missinformative

i thought the 3060 will out perform the 2080 sinse 3000 is bigger then 2000

ive googled 4090 for the fun of it

[sterile zodiac]

I watched that so many times, cracks me up

@heady turtle

3400g suckssss

Are there pcie extension cables that I could extend the bottom slot out with?

[heady turtle]

I mean it's arbitrary both work

[heady turtle]

Uhh always do research when buying something and, that's like saying the i3 10100 is better than the i7 9700

[cerulean rover]

For why not, look at Intel ice lake CPU names

Yes it's mostly number but

What the hell are the numbers

[heady turtle]

Rip

[cerulean rover]

I prefer GPU name much more than CPU naming

[sterile zodiac]

The bottom slot is only pcie 2.0, would it even be worth trying to connect the 240 to it?

[heady turtle]

If it's just for display then sure

[sterile zodiac]

Yeah, I’m trying to be able to use it for a hackintosh cause rawr said I could run the latest macOS on that amd card

[heady turtle]

Should be able to ye

[dreamy dragon]

moumit_biswas#1734 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

[sterile zodiac]

Since it’s only pcie 2.0 running at x4 speed do I even need the whole adapter? Or could I buy a pcie x1 to x16 adapter (cause it’s cheaper). Will performance be noticeably worse?

[magic wing]

TBH I wouldnt run the card in any 4x slot

Even for basic display

[heady turtle]

Just stick it in the pcie 6 slot no?

[magic wing]

Oh wait pato

We dummy dums

[heady turtle]

Why

[magic wing]

He needs to go into bios and manually set top 16x slot to 8x

Which enables the middle slot

[magic wing]

This pic

[heady turtle]

Really?

[magic wing]

I think so

[heady turtle]

I thought it would auto do when detect card in bottom slot

[heady turtle]

He has 3400g, so pcie 4 is just disabled outright

[magic wing]

AH right

Zen+

Id get an extender to put secondary gpu in bottom slot then

Thats a gen 2 4x

O no

Ig you gotta do it

[heady turtle]

Lol just run the display out gpu in bottom slot

In ultra sad mode

I mean 2x4

[magic wing]

Ur not wrong

[empty mountain]

hello, can someone if i pair up a i5 11400f and a gtx 750 ti how much it will bottleneck?

[heady turtle]

A lot, are you carrying 750 ti over from an old build?

[empty mountain]

yes

do you think a 1050 ti will do it then?

[heady turtle]

Yes but eh, what's your budget for gpu?

[empty mountain]

...

idk maybe 250$ max

[heady turtle]

You can get a gtx 970/980/1060/1070(if lucky) for that price

[empty mountain]

hmm

guess i'll have to save more money then ]

[heady turtle]

I mean they're all pretty decent upgrades over a 750 ti

[empty mountain]

i'm only planning to play cs go with it, will it damage the cpu, or just limit it?

[heady turtle]

@empty mountain btw 1060/970 same perf basically

[empty mountain]

i'm not good with pc building

[heady turtle]

Just limit it, but even a 750 ti is low for csgo

[empty mountain]

i found a gtx 970 4 gb for 150

uhm i'm from romania we use a site called olx

idk about ebay

i can send you a link to it but it's in romanian

ok

1 sec

it's second hand

https://www.olx.ro/d/oferta/placa-video-gtx-970-jetstream-4gb-gddr5-IDfxmY8.html#e183b0d23d this is the one i found

yeah i know that's why i was asking about the 750 ti

yeah

i'm living close to him too

[heady turtle]

Ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh yeah don't currency convert, i said those gpus because you told me your budget in usd so i assumed you were in America, the used market in Europe ain't as good

[empty mountain]

yeah..

if i can get 200 fps+ with the 750 ti i'm down if not i will wait more

i just want to get consistent fps

i'm playing on 1280x960 resolution too

cs go

[heady turtle]

Yeah not happening any time soon unless you drop to like 480p/720p maybe

[empty mountain]

i get 110 fps with a i3 4170

[heady turtle]

Hmm okay

Possible at 960p then

[empty mountain]

it's tempting me alot

[heady turtle]

Csgo is very cpu bound so

[empty mountain]

yeah that's why i was asking since it's the only thing i play

[heady turtle]

It shold do it then or at least close to it

[empty mountain]

i saw alot of videos with the 10400f and gtx 750 ti and the guys were getting 200 fps most of the time

like this benchmark https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=55fZVOJt6pw

[dreamy dragon]

xXDarkaizXx#1270 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

[heady turtle]

Fair

[empty mountain]

@heady turtle anyway ty for the advice, gl ranking up :p

[heady turtle]

Np

[solemn panther]

Hm

[honest hound]

if i get a vertical gpu mount, how much worse would my gpu temps be?

[livid idol]

It depends. Do you have a glass side panel? How close to the glass would it be?

[honest hound]

i have a lian li mini with a 3080 ti, im not sure how closer it will be to the glass

[livid idol]

The O11 mini?

[honest hound]

yup

[livid idol]

That's got about 3 slots of space on the vertical part. How many slots thick is the gpu?

[honest hound]

its a 2.9 slot card

[livid idol]

Oof. That'll choke the poor gpu. It'll hit thermal limits pretty fast.

[honest hound]

looks like i will have to invest in an anti sag bracket instead

[heady turtle]

That would be a large no lol

[fervent star]

task manager says gpu usage is at 32%, and 76C, that sounds very hot and i have my side panel off of my case, what should i do?

im running borderlands 3 btw if that matters

gpu usage jumps to 44% or so sometimes

[heady turtle]

Ignore task manager use hwinfo 64 or msi afterburner

@fervent star check your default fan speed for gpu btw, most fan curves suck

[hard wren]

also is there an issue in game or are you just concerned with task manager numbers?

[fervent star]

hwinfo says 75.3C gpu temp, 86.7C hot spot temp, and 100% gpu core load

[fervent star]

concerned about thermals

my side panel is off and its still at 75 that sounds high

[heady turtle]

There ya go, 100% lol

[heady turtle]

Download msi afterburner and change your probably bad stock gpu fan curve

[hard wren]

Those numbers are well within spec like @heady turtle said you could adjust fan curve if it makes you feel better

[fervent star]

oh i thought hitting like 80 was bad, which is what i figured itll be at once my side panels are on

[fervent star]

imma do that

[hard wren]

I don't know what card it is but tjmax is probably around 90c which means at that temp it will start throttling. Running at under tjmax will not hurt the card in any way. I'm not saying your wrong in that it would be better to be cooler but it really isnt hurting anything

[heady turtle]

83c for 30 series

[hard wren]

well that would be closer than i would like lol

change that fan curve

[heady turtle]

Yeah

[hard wren]

my memory gets up to 103c on gpuz 😅

[heady turtle]

Repaddddd

[hard wren]

From what I've read its semi normal and ok for my 3090 to almost catch on fire

[heady turtle]

Normal, yes, okay debatable, micron said 105-110c but they also said it can degrade above 100c or something

[hard wren]

yeah and be destroyed at 120c

I probably should change the pads

[blazing herald]

any idea how to control the rgb on my msi gpu?

mystic light just doesn't exist in msi center

[livid idol]

I don't know why MSI keeps changing their program, but you have to install the lighting module

[blazing herald]

not even sure which one that is

is it in the feature sets?

these are all that are shown

[livid idol]

Hang on I'll bring mine up

If it's a MSI GPU then you can use openrgb or signalrgb btw

[blazing herald]

yeah it's an msi 3070

[livid idol]

I like openrgb for it being simple and small, and signalrgb has more effects and features if you like that

[blazing herald]

might just stick with openrgb just to turn on the lights lmao

sadly it's only picking up two devices

is there a chance the gpu doesn't have rgb?

[livid idol]

That's a possibility

[blazing herald]

is there a way to check the exact model of the gpu?

it just tells me NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3070

[livid idol]

If you don't have the box you can tell from the subsystem ID in device manager

[blazing herald]

how can i find the subsystem ID?

[blazing herald]

ohh i see

i see it, thanks

PCI\VEN_10DE&DEV_2484&SUBSYS_39091462&REV_A1

how can i figure out what model it is through here?

[livid idol]

Is this it? https://www.techpowerup.com/gpu-specs/msi-rtx-3070-ventus-2x-oc.b7966

[blazing herald]

i think so

i just found a sticker on the gpu

it said 3070 ventus 2x

[livid idol]

Yep that's it then

[blazing herald]

[livid idol]

I don't think that one has any RGB

[blazing herald]

yeah prob not

i was just hoping i could make the msi just light up

not really into actual rgb, just some nice emmision

[summer sluice]

Yooo

[rustic pulsar]

Mama

[twin dove]

amazing deal right here

[hard wren]

not just a 570 but a 570P8Dfd6

clearly the longer name makes it better

[sterile zodiac]

Would it be fine to take the metal plate off the front of this card to make it shorter?

It’s only attached by the little sockets that the dvi and vga cables are secured with

I think it might fit in my lowest slot without that extra height

[hard wren]

uhm no

[sterile zodiac]

Why not?

[hard wren]

better to hack at the case you need the io plate

it secures the card and provides grounding

[sterile zodiac]

Hmm

[hard wren]

whats the inside of the case look like

[sterile zodiac]

It’s an nzxt h510. It’s a horrible case. It was recommended to me and I bought it cause I was dumb

One sec I’ll send a picture

[hard wren]

but that case is pretty big..

aio on the front or something?

[hard wren]

whats behind there that would interfere with the gpu to the right of picture

or am I thinking length and you are thinking heighth?

[sterile zodiac]

No. So I’ll explain. I have a 1060 3gb, but it can’t run the latest macOS in a hackintosh rawr is helping me with. I also have an old r7 240 4gb card. It will run macOS Monterey. But to get both of them in my system, I have to put the r7 240 in the lowest slot. However, it is a two slot card and there’s only like 1.8 ish of a slot at te bottom

Yeah, it is height. It’s a p short card

[hard wren]

oh i c

[sterile zodiac]

There’s the card just sitting there

But it’s a bit too tall

(Also please excuse the dust in my case)

[hard wren]

have a dremel?

[sterile zodiac]

Yeahh I do…

It’s not a happy thought though

[sterile zodiac]

I can’t dremal the case because it would hit the psu

[hard wren]

I would chop this off here

and maybe cut that grill above the psu as its a few more mm of space

[sterile zodiac]

It’s really this part thats too tall

[hard wren]

that would work too

yeah just take it off the gpu dremel that part off and put it back on

make sure you use lubricant when you cut away from the gpu

[sterile zodiac]

Wait what about cutting away from the gpu? I can just unscrew the piece…

[hard wren]

yeah and do it far away from the gpu as to not get metal dust anywhere near it or the pc

just dont do it on the same table 😉

[sterile zodiac]

Oh of course

And what’s the lubricant for?

[hard wren]

to make your dremel blade last longer and not catch something on fire

thats like hardened steel its going to take a bit

just a little wd40 or any kind of oil will work

just dribble a bit on there as you cut

just reduces the cutting friction

[sterile zodiac]

It’s increasingly sounding like a difficult thing, maybe I should just buy an extension cable for that slot

[hot folio]

WD40 really isn’t a lubricant

[hard wren]

they say that but it really is

"WD-40 Multi-Use Product is a unique, special blend of lubricants." But yeah I guess its really more of a disolvant/degreaser

[normal hawk]

just use water

[hard wren]

you could use water you would just need more water

[normal hawk]

I entered the Shuffle and only selected the 3060 Phoenix fan. Watch me get selected for this trash 😠

[hard wren]

but its got 12gb of ram you will never use and its so little

[normal hawk]

the size is actually why I'd want it

[hard wren]

it is dumb small

[normal hawk]

Ye. Small GPU for a tiny case uwu

[hard wren]

two of them lengthwise are only 20mm longer than my 3090 fe

[normal hawk]

Thats what we like to see

[glacial kelp]

Question, if the GPU has OC in it's model name, it means that unlike the others, is OC capable? Or all 3rd series GPUs are OCable 😛

[heady turtle]

All gpus are oc'able oc in the name just means it has a small overclock from the factory

[glacial kelp]

Ah, I see, thank you sir. Again.

[heady turtle]

Np

[faint zealot]

i just want a 3080 fe

but 3070 is better then the 1070 i had

[normal hawk]

@heady turtle Im sorry, if I get selected for the Phoenix Fan 3060 I might buy it. I want the small GPU

I've betrayed you

[hard wren]

if you no longer need the 3090 I could take it off your hands...

[normal hawk]

No

[hard wren]

LOL

[normal hawk]

I have like 5 PC's right now. Number just keeps going up

I do have 4 Active PC's actually. One to build. And a few older PC's that I need to get rid of.

[heady turtle]

I mean it will be fine not great but ye

[normal hawk]

The old PC's best CPU is the 4460, which isn't bad. but the other ones are either dual core CPU's from 2009 and I do have a FX 6300 too.

[normal hawk]

I'm also gonna choke it in an Xbox Original Case or Xbox 360 Case.

[heady turtle]

Nooooooo

[faint zealot]

yes

[tall lichen]

Is purchasing a 1660S for $230(plus shipping) worth it?

[rustic pulsar]

yes but price is msrp so seems sus

[tall lichen]

It's from the EVGA site @rustic pulsar

[rustic pulsar]

yeah the go for it

As long as if it's the real EVGA site it should be fine

[tall lichen]

It is

[rustic pulsar]

mind linking the home page

[tall lichen]

Why

Of course

https://www.evga.com

[rustic pulsar]

yep looks legit go for it, just have to very careful these days with prices that seem too good to be true

[tall lichen]

I hear ya

[heady turtle]

Are you sure they haven't been in production in years

B stock maybe ?

[rustic pulsar]

i'd assume they be in higher stock then 30 series but not msrp

[tall lichen]

It was all I could find for a decent price. They didn't have any 10 series cards

[heady turtle]

It's a good card for the price, just wondering why they have any lol

[tall lichen]

Because it's better than nothing in terms of budget options

Even the 2060 is sold higher than msrp

[heady turtle]

Ik I'm just surprised they have any because 1660's haven't been manufactured for over a year

[tall lichen]

I suppose it depends on the brand. Like say Asus doesn't make/have them anymore 🤷

They also have the regular and the TI models too

[twin dove]

scams suck

I was just looking at an rtx 3060 for under 400$ on facebook marketplace

[dreamy dragon]

GloriousModel69#4535 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

[sudden mist]

I got a rtx 2060 i7-10700 16gb ram for 1500 cad

Is it worth it?

[tall lichen]

Hmmm

[normal hawk]

About 1.2k, only thing better around that price would be 10400f with a 3060. So not bad.

[tall lichen]

@twin dove I was curious about how much those cost but the site didn't have them for auto notify

[agile hamlet]

sorry if this is a stupid question, But where would it even be possible to get a GPU/graphics card right now?

because i’d preferably build my own pc

[heady turtle]

Depends on your budget but https://github.com/NeweggTechie/GPU-Buying-Guide/wiki

[normal hawk]

Whats your budget and target resolution/FPS?

for 1080p lower budget I'd go with https://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails?ItemList=Combo.4375776 and an 10400f or 11400f depending on local prices.

Unless you intend on streaming^ then you'd want an RTX card which are a bit more difficult to get

[agile hamlet]

$1500-$2000 + I guess like 90-150 fps?

[normal hawk]

What Resolution? Do you need Monitor+Keyboard+Mouse and then what will you be using it for?

[agile hamlet]

Ideally? for resolution? 1080p and anything less if that’s not possible with my budget.

Yeah I do need those but i’m not really concerned about them because of how easily I could afford them even if i wasn’t saving

And i’d be using it for primarily gaming and occasionally schoolwork.

[normal hawk]

Then yea, the bundle I listed would be a good start.

[grizzled nimbus]

anyone know if Maxwell 2 BIOS TWEAKER is as reliable bios editing software for obviously 900 series

[glacial kelp]

Are 3rd series same model number vastly different, because I see prices on the same website varying by 400 euros for a 3060ti for example. Where 400 should be the MSRP price :))

[heady turtle]

Just different and in board partners having different prices

[normal hawk]

Pato, I didn't get selected

[magic wing]

Nerd

[heady turtle]

https://tenor.com/view/horrible-crying-noooo-no-gif-11951898

[rustic pulsar]

Look at the savings UwU

[vital oriole]

lmao

that shipping tho

50 bucks

[heady turtle]

Pretty cheap from hong kong to us xD

[calm stirrup]

If I can cop a 6800xt should I cop or wait to try to cop a 3080? Thoughts?

At MSRP from drop today.

[keen nacelle]

If its msrp go for it

[calm stirrup]

Meant 3080 but was looking for input on pros/cons from personal experience vs 3080.

Have watched some benchmarks.

[hard wren]

@calm stirrup what cpu?

[calm stirrup]

12700k

[hard wren]

I would personally go 3080 however you wont be disappointed with either

[calm stirrup]

Yeah I want to cop a 3080 way more too but so does everyone else.

[hard wren]

I think if you stay on top of checking a few times a day you will get one

[calm stirrup]

I'm waiting on drop today or tomorrow.

[hard wren]

I've seen a few recently just checked now dont see any

[calm stirrup]

Sitting at pc rn waiting. Skipped class for a drop today.

[agile hamlet]

i heard its easier to get a 6800 XT than a 3080 right now

[hard wren]

it is and he/she acknowledged that earlier

[heady turtle]

They trade blows in fps, 3080 has rtx voice, better ray tracing but if none of that matters to you/secondary concern, whichever is one is cheaper, and if 6800xt is msrp, definitely, you can sell it down the road if you can find a 3080 for more than you bought it for anyway

[calm stirrup]

BB didn't drop today and amd put me a hour que even tho I was in the second the que dropped feels bad.

My chances aren't any better on the shuffle if I just choose one thing right?

[heady turtle]

Nope chances for 1 item stay the same, ofc you'll have more chances of winning shuffle if you enter for more things because it's say (1+1+1+1+1+1)/x chance instead of 1/x

If ya get me

[calm stirrup]

Well yeah I just didn't know if more than one would affect my odds.

[heady turtle]

Nope

Same odds on strix 3060 if you also enter for other things for example

[calm stirrup]

Not seeing 3070s for price I'm looking for at least so mostly just entering for 3060tis and going to see if anyone I know wants it for a slight profit until they put 3070 for $750 back on there. Otherwise if no one does i'll just rock the 3060ti ig.

[glad sorrel]

My friend just texted me that he wants to upgrade his pc from a gtx 1650 to something that can play games at 4k max settings and he only wants to spend at most $1,000 and he needs a new mobo, cpu and gpu 😆

[calm stirrup]

Eh. That's just someone who doesn't know anything about parts he'll learn.

[glad sorrel]

Yeah he is upgrading a prebuilt Nzxt starter series

[hard wren]

a ps5 of xbox series x?

[heady turtle]

mine to offset the price

[calm stirrup]

Nah yeah I am going to.

[glad sorrel]

he has a ps5 but we play mmo's and we are gonna get into ffXIV

[heady turtle]

What specs they got now?

[hard wren]

maybe only need a gpu

[glad sorrel]

Windows 10 Home

CPU

Intel Core i3-9100F 4-Core 3.6GHz

GPU

NVIDIA GEFORCE GTX™ 1660 Super

RAM

XPG Gammix D10 16GB (2X8GB) 3000 MHz (max speed)

Storage

500GB Western Digital SN550 M.2 SSD

[heady turtle]

New cpu needed ye

[calm stirrup]

I just want to get ddr5 at least so I can build my pc and stick my 1080 in. I kind of need more storage and a faster pc soon bc have a competition coming up and would like to setup some VMs to learn some stuff before then.

[glad sorrel]

Yeah i tried to get him to buy the higher end nzxt prebuilt but he refused to spend the extra 400$

[heady turtle]

1660 super? That's fairly decent lol, I'd say big enough perf bump going to a 10400 or something

[heady turtle]

Nzxt prebuilts are all stupidly priced anyway

@glad sorrel can they check what power supply they have?

[calm stirrup]

Are there any twitter pages or anything that have good estimates on when more ddr5 would restock?

Join a discord server but kind of hoping for an estimate for perordering or when to be on rather than constantly checking.

[glad sorrel]

500 watt bronze

[heady turtle]

Okay probs a bomb

[toxic sinew]

NZXT has a new pre built with a 5600G for like $700-800

[heady turtle]

800$

It's stupid

[toxic sinew]

yeah it is

[heady turtle]

@glad sorrel https://pcpartpicker.com/list/HYXgRT I'd do this and keep storage and ram

And case

[glad sorrel]

Thanks guys, this has been a big help

[heady turtle]

Np

[sterile zodiac]

Any suggestions for a pcie extension cable? I am on a budget. As cheap as it can and still be good. Like under ten dollars? Idk. I looked and there are tons. Don’t know what to look for.

[hard wren]

just make sure it doesnt cost more than a new case since that would also solve your issue 😉

[sterile zodiac]

I’m not even sure a new case would help, although the fractal design one is a lot nicer

The case would have to be like bigger than atx or something

[heady turtle]

Well you need an extender cuz the gpu interferes with bottom of case in bottom slot correct?

What case you have now?

[sterile zodiac]

Yes

It’s cringe.

N**t h510

The ultimate kenzi case

[heady turtle]

That's a compact case, an proper atx case would fix issue

[sterile zodiac]

Uh as far as I know it’s a full atx case

[hard wren]

https://www.newegg.com/black-cooler-master-haf-series-atx-desktop/p/N82E16811119265? its 129.99 its super ugly, has tons of airflow, real structural handles for carrying, no gpu or cooler sag as its a horizontal mobo mount which is removable as a bench, and could easily fit both gpus in your case

and did I mention it has the same footprint as 2 mtx cases and it can be your today

also I can confirm its stackable as I have 4 of them lol

[sterile zodiac]

It’s 130 dollars oof

I paid 55 for mine xD

[hard wren]

you can catch them on sale for $99

[sterile zodiac]

Oof

I mean

This was just for a hackintosh

I’m fine with a little bit of janky

[hard wren]

I found I was moving mine around a lot and traveling with it so the handles were helpful

[sterile zodiac]

So I was thinking an extension cable would let me set it vertically

[heady turtle]

Or you can buy a p400a for 70$/65 for non digital

[sterile zodiac]

That is true. I might make one of those some day

[hard wren]

those pcie extension cables are just expensive and finicky

[sterile zodiac]

Ugh I was really trying to avoid cutting it

Cause cutting metal isn’t my specialty

[hard wren]

the gpu is old enough that I approve lol

[sterile zodiac]

That’s fair xD

And I wouldn’t have to buy anything

[hard wren]

true

[sterile zodiac]

I got the gpu itself for 10 dollars xD

…and it works

[heady turtle]

Impressive

[sterile zodiac]

It was sold by a dummy at a yard sale. I mean, it’s not an amazing card by any stretch of the imagination. But it runs and it’s not laggy at all

…for web browsing, simple tasks etc. I wouldn’t try to game on it

[toxic sinew]

What GPU?

[sterile zodiac]

R7 240

[toxic sinew]

ah

[heady turtle]

Tbf so is a gt710 lol

[sterile zodiac]

The normal r7 240 had 2 gb vram, but this xfx one has 4.

[sterile zodiac]

True

What about gt1030

Lol

I have a friend who says they’re bad

[heady turtle]

Like it matters lol

[sterile zodiac]

Righttttt

[heady turtle]

Playable for budget, 5600g level

[sterile zodiac]

It would definitely help with mining crypto, or blender renders, ai training, and davinci resolve fusion cache 😂

4gb makes all the difference

[heady turtle]

You spelled space heater wrong xD

[sterile zodiac]

Oh I’m sorry

Yeah my 1060 made my room really hot when I tried mining on it

I can only imagine a 3090 or any 30 series card

[rustic pulsar]

The more watts the hotter the room will get

[sterile zodiac]

I had my gpu at 75 percent power, don’t know how many watts that was tho

[rustic pulsar]

MSI after burner shows GPU wattage

[sterile zodiac]

Hmm maybe I want paying attention. Cause that’s what I was using

[rustic pulsar]

It’s one of the graphs

[sterile zodiac]

Oh yeah

I kind of only paid attention to the temps and clock speed

[calm stirrup]

lmaooo im being played bro. Skipped class for a drop today. Waited 3 hours and as soon as I leave for class in the 20 minute drive while im on the interstate the cards drop.

[idle idol]

is bestbuy letting anyone add a graphics card into their carts?

cause mines keeps on saying "There was a problem adding your product to cart"

[calm stirrup]

I'm just in a line for the last 3070 left and 3060ti left.

[heady turtle]

You have to be very fast

[idle idol]

the website went down jusat for a sec

I am using a autoclicker rn

10000 per 1 millisecond

[heady turtle]

Probably don't

[idle idol]

Man, I've been waiting a yar and this crap hasn't been fixed yet.

year*

[calm stirrup]

This line thing and always making me verify sucks. The verify message takes like a minute.

Minute to get to me.

[idle idol]

Wow,

everything sold out

[valid bough]

I didn’t know the verify thing existed, I didn’t have my password on my phone and boom, gone by the time I got in

[dawn crescent]

i havent found a gpu in a year

[idle idol]

same,

[valid bough]

How often does Best Buy drop?

[dawn crescent]

there all sold out or overpriced

[valid bough]

Mhm

[dawn crescent]

does anyone have any idea where i could get a gpu

[idle idol]

I am honestly quite sick of it

[valid bough]

I’m not boutta pay over 1k for a $700 gpu either

[idle idol]

just illegalize price scalping.

[dawn crescent]

same

[idle idol]

ez

[dawn crescent]

ig lol

[calm stirrup]

The verify account keeps popping up for me then putting me back in line. Must be sold out but don't want to refresh.

[valid bough]

I entered in the Newegg shuffle for the 3080 but I prob won’t get it anyway because those prices man

[idle idol]

refresh everything is sold out

[valid bough]

Wayyyy too much

[valid bough]

Been gone for awhile now 💀

[idle idol]

I might aswell get a prebuilt system man

[dawn crescent]

yeah that might be the way to go

i built my PC in march and it thought prices would have gone down by now but there basically the same 😦

[valid bough]

I would just get a prebuilt but I already have all the parts at this point so

[idle idol]

honestly 25% the reason why there gone is just price scalpers.

[dawn crescent]

scalping should be illegal

[idle idol]

based

[calm stirrup]

nah other cards non FE still coming back in stock every few minutes

[dawn crescent]

Non FE?

whats that

[valid bough]

Not founders edition

[dawn crescent]

oh

[valid bough]

But those are hella overpriced so

No thanks

[dawn crescent]

yeah

when are prices going to drop

my radeon 560 wont do it for very much longer

[idle idol]

probably 2022 or 2023

[dawn crescent]

my ps4 gets better graphics than my pc sometimes

damn alr

[valid bough]

Damn they had me in line for the 3070ti for a good long while and then laughed in my face with “lol we got none”

[idle idol]

I heard that the U.K is thinking about illegalizing price scalping

so the brits are pretty lucky if they do pass it in the parliment.

[valid bough]

I need plane tickets NOW

[dawn crescent]

lmao

let me go

[calm stirrup]

There's not a great way to enforce that.

Not to mention very little in resources would likely be spent on pursuing those crimes unless during crisis.

[valid bough]

Best Buy really does laugh in your face

“High demand product” yeah no duh

[brisk flame]

it would be cool if you could just prosecute ppl for it

buy something from someone at a scapled price

[valid bough]

And then it puts the founders edition card wayyy at the bottom of the search list

[brisk flame]

immediately sue them for it

although idk what lawsuits are like in the UK

because fr scapling adds nothing to any society

[calm stirrup]

Yeah im pretty sure bb site is just overloaded at this point. Not actually coming back in stock.

[brisk flame]

so it would be cool to have something like that to apply to all products

[valid bough]

I swear eventually the stress of trying to cop one of these things is going to give me a heart attack and then I’ll be able to sue em for one 💀💀

[brisk flame]

lol

[dawn crescent]

lol

[brisk flame]

maybe if people werent so obsessed in their blind consumerism

we wouldnt have problems like these

idiots paying 3k for a 3090 like just open your eyes and get a freaking life dude

"oH bUt I nEeD iT tO SuRvIvE"

[valid bough]

Lmao I refuse to pay non founders edition prices nevermind scalper prices

[brisk flame]

because in reality i actually hate the people buying from scalpers more than the actual scalpers

[quartz gull]

Intel AMD and Nvidia think demand vs supply will be fixed second half of 2023, so only 2 more years

[brisk flame]

yeah p much

[valid bough]

💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀

I just want to play Minecraft with sexy lights 😭😭😭

[quartz gull]

Intel has 2 more fabs coming online in late 2022/early2023 too so if you want an Intel GPU that may be your best option lol

[valid bough]

💀

[idle idol]

Honestly, if someone just could email their state represenative to create a bill to illegalize price scalping in general.

[brisk flame]

i hate that covid has introduced nike shoe scapling stockx scumbags into the PC market honestly

[quartz gull]

Intel's prices should hopefully be lower. They don't have to pay a 25% tariff in the U.S.

[heady turtle]

They're not wrong just sucks

[brisk flame]

dont we all lol

well i can :)

[dawn crescent]

yeah this is one big mess to say the least

[quartz gull]

Fabs in the U.S. actually make it so Intel doesn't need to pay tariffs.

[valid bough]

I got a old dusty 1060 rn

[quartz gull]

At least the 2018 GPU and ram craze only lasted like a year and a half

[idle idol]

A 1060? I got a Vega 3 intergrated graphics rn.

[dawn crescent]

i got a 560

[heady turtle]

Me to :)

[quartz gull]

I got a spare 950 2GB if my GPU ever dies

I bought it a long while ago for a build I never ended up doing

Was going to pick up a 4th gen i5 optiplex a year ago and a half ago for $80 but the deal fell through

I had bought a $45 950 2GB for it

Crazy that they're going for like $90-120 for a 950

950's are great for like rocket league, valorant, CSGO, etc.

They're 80% faster than a 1030

[valid bough]

3080s just dropped again

No luck

[heady turtle]

Hm i bet you could sell that for like 120-135$

[quartz gull]

Nah, knowing my luck the moment I sell it I'm going to end up needing it. If I get a better 75 watt card I'll sell the 950

75 watt cards have made me copious amounta of money on PC flips

[idle idol]

I am in line rn for the 3070

[quartz gull]

I gave up on the 3070

First time I had 3070 money I lasted 45 days before caving for a series s

And more recently I lasted 60 days of searching before I stopped it on a new CPU

[idle idol]

MSI gaming Z trio

[quartz gull]

Not bad

What's MSRP on it?

[heady turtle]

Fair enough lol

[idle idol]

uh going for 829$ rn

[quartz gull]

Ouch

[calm stirrup]

I just gave up. At this point a bot is getting anything that comes back into stock not to mention their site is likely just overloaded and it has been sold out.

[sterile zodiac]

I feel that

[heady turtle]

Ntb very good card and you can mine to get some moneys back

[quartz gull]

$100 optiplex and a $45-100 75 watt card would usually let me sell it for $350 ish on Facebook marketplace

[heady turtle]

👀

[quartz gull]

But GPU prices have gone to hecc

So I can't do my flips anymore

4th gen i5 or i7 and a 950-1650 would usually allow for some decent eSports rigs

Or even entry level triple a gaming rigs

But I can't get those GPUs anymore lol

My sister has my "old" build I had until 2018. A i5 6400 optiplex with a 1050 2GB in it.

She still can play quite a bit on a 2GB 1050

[valid bough]

1060 is fineee and all but I wanna go all out

I already got a 5800x for cpu so might as well

[idle idol]

I jhust vewrified my bb account

just*

verified*

just searching for inventory rn'

[valid bough]

I just hit the verify button and it’s eternally loading

Think it’s brokey

I’m scared to hit the x though

[idle idol]

3060 ti sold out already

[valid bough]

That was probably the last wave too

🥲

[idle idol]

great the 3070 went out

[dreamy dragon]

VoxdVortx#1931 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

[idle idol]

sped

[valid bough]

The only thing that still has stock is the 3080ti because they’re going for 2k 💀💀💀💀💀

[idle idol]

LOL

quite outrageous

[glacial kelp]

After a 400 km drive away and back, finally got my 3060ti!!! Time to shark out my 1060 😄

If anyone is interested, it's only 2000 euros.

[gray bloom]

2001 and u got a deal😉

[glacial kelp]

Going to pm you my payment details. Best deal of your life, zero scam risk.

[lone pond]

Anyone have any good gpu suggestions with a $200-300 cost.

My current gpu can barely run most games well, I got it used for $50 on eBay and it runs most low effort games like hello neighbor or Valorant but can’t run games like one piece pirate warriors, or apex

[twin dove]

Used market is basically your only option

Gtx 980 is going to get you the highest performance in that range and can be found on ebay

Unless you get really lucky with like a gtx 1070 or something at 300$

[vital oriole]

1070 can be possible

if you're lucky with bids

or find some nice deals on r/hardwareswap or something

[lone pond]

Okay thanks

How about this?

[heady turtle]

980 ti is good too

Bout equal to a 1070

[magic wing]

Yeah pato = dudley

980ti is actually very nice

[analog badge]

Anyone know what this is

[brittle shoal]

correct me if im wrong, but i think its a gpu

[heady turtle]

Looks like an old gpu

[vital oriole]

it's

probably some low end oem thing

likely a 210?

[analog badge]

It is defs a low end oen

A Radeon it says on the front

[vital oriole]

the only way to check easily is to bring up gpu-z if possible

hm radeon?

[timid narwhal]

show us the back

[analog badge]

i cant

[timid narwhal]

just stick your phone in there

[analog badge]

im not at my friends house anymore lmao

[fallen notch]

I have a very similar card in my '06 dell tower

also radeon

it is just a basic gpu

[analog badge]

yeah i was wondering because my friend acquired that

and i was wondering what was in it

[livid idol]

R7 240

The number on the card there gives it away, 109-c55237

[glacial kelp]

So, guide? 😄

[heady turtle]

Yeah haven't touched it yet lol

[valid bough]

🙏our father, who vibe in heaven, please gib rtx restock 🥺🥺🥺

[glacial kelp]

Do I reinstall drivers in safe mode, or normal mode? Thank you

[heady turtle]

Just ddu safe mode, everything else normal

[glacial kelp]

Yes sir, thank you.

Mission: GPU 2021 begins.

[heady turtle]

Np

[valid bough]

I just want vigea game 😭

[sterile zodiac]

Anyone know what gpu this is?

[vital oriole]

Radeon HD 7570

Made by pegatron

[sterile zodiac]

Ooh thanks

[vital oriole]

It's the 2 gigs variant of 7570

[sterile zodiac]

Now I just have to see if it can run macOS Monterey. If not then I have to dremal an r7 240

[vital oriole]

lol

It could probably work

[sterile zodiac]

I’ll ask rawr.

@magic wing will this Radeon hd 7570 run macOS Monterey?

[vital oriole]

nvm it's actually 1 gig

but shouldn't affect the compatibility

[sterile zodiac]

Hmm. 1gb is not my preference but I got it for 5 dollars. I’m literally a begger/good bargainer. But it works

[magic wing]

It should

[vital oriole]

5 bucks for a hd 7570?

that's good

[warped ravine]

Company:    HEWLETT-PACKARD COMPANY
Device Name:    Graphics Card
Model:    109-C55237-00
Sub-Model:    Badger2, Badger2b, AMD RADEON R7_240 PCI-E VIDEO GRAPHICS BOARD
Authorization Number:    MSIP-REM-HPQ-109-C55237-00
Alphanumeric Authorization Number:    MSIPREMHPQ109C5523700
Manufacturer:    HEWLETT-PACKARD COMPANY
Country:    China
Date of Application:    2014-06-23```

[sterile zodiac]

They were asking $7.50, “because it has hdmi” but i bought the 240 with it and paid 15 dollars total. The guy was chuffed with himself. He didn’t know if either of them worked or it. They both did.

[vital oriole]

ah

[sterile zodiac]

Ooooh really

[magic wing]

Monterey

Should run on it yes

[sterile zodiac]

Okie that would be amazing actually

I’ll test it one more time to make sure it works

Cause I have the new ssd too

So now it’s just a matter of having enough time

[analog badge]

cheers

[dawn crescent]

does anyone one know when bestbuy will get a restock of 3060 Ti?

[toxic sinew]

No one knows

You will have to wait and watch

[normal hawk]

if you live near a microcenter I'd check it out. I don't think they are actively reporting items in stock anymore. and they will be restocked Yesterday/Today/Tomorrow depending on which one.

When I went to microcenter to buy an 11600k. they had several 3060 ti's, 3070's, and a few 3070 ti's in stock. That weren't shown on the website

[livid idol]

Microcenter often has 6600 in stock

[tribal scaffold]

Does anyone know a good place to buy used/old graphics cards?

[livid idol]

Reddit r/hardwareswap

[toxic sinew]

Facebook Marketplace or Craigslist for local places

[normal hawk]

Ebay, r/hardwareswap, Facebook Marketplace

as long as it can go through paypal and you read the posting carefully its relatively safe

[quartz gull]

I'mma have a new CPU and ram kit yet still be on a 2060

At this point the 3070 isn't even worth it being a year old

New GPU would all I need for my build. Maybe I'll go for a used 3080 late next year

[empty mountain]

how much would a 1050 ti/1060 2nd hand go for in europe?

[heady turtle]

Depends where but like 200-250 ish

[fallen notch]

Ok so I have looked at the numbers and such on userbenchmark, but how much real difference is there between a 1070 and a 3070?

[dreamy dragon]

Baiter#8223 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

[empty mountain]

i heard userbenchamark is not accurate

[heady turtle]

Use https://www.videocardbenchmark.net/singleCompare.php user benchmark is crap

[fallen notch]

Cool

Thanks!

[heady turtle]

Np

[empty mountain]

@heady turtle i found a 980 ti for 200 $ do you think it's worth it ?

[heady turtle]

Yeah

[empty mountain]

on ebay from usa

[heady turtle]

Oh then no

Import tax etc

Shipping

Would cost you like €350 ish lol

[empty mountain]

but it could use a 240hz monitor right?

[heady turtle]

Ye

[empty mountain]

so does a 960/970?

i found one 960 2gb for 600 lei or 120 $

[heady turtle]

That's pretty good

[empty mountain]

but it's on olx

so idk how trust worthy the dude is

[heady turtle]

Idk what olx is lol

[empty mountain]

romanian ebay

[heady turtle]

Ahh

[fallen notch]

So now I have looked at the better benchmark, and the number still doesn't mean a lot to me. I mean a 1070 is at like 13, a 3060 is at like 16, and a 3070 is at 21ish. But I guess i am not sure how those numbers compare to the "quality of life." How much GPU do I actually need? I peg out my 1070 on almost every I play and the Solidworks modeling I do, but idk how much more gpu will be good enough

Or I can just be cool with my 1070.

[green harness]

Check out reviews with benchmarks for whatever your workload is, like https://youtu.be/NbZDERlshbQ

[heady turtle]

It depends, are you happy with your 1070? How much you looking to spend if not? What resolution?

[fallen notch]

It isn't too bad, honestly. The monitor I have is a 75 hz 1080p 21:9 monitor

[heady turtle]

Yeah 1070 should handle that fine

[green harness]

Yeah if you're happy with your 1070 just stick with it

[heady turtle]

Idk bout solidworks tho

[toxic sinew]

SOLIDWORKS requires a certified Quadro or Radeon Pro for GPU acceleration

[fallen notch]

Yeah, it keeps pestering me about that

[heady turtle]

Thats a shame :/

[pliant monolith]

So kinda newer to the graphic card game, but looking for a decent (not top tier, dont have that kinda money) cost effect choice for a graphics card. I mainly do 3d modeling, and play low teir graphic games. Min for requirements for modeling is: Support Direct3D 11 or OpenGL 3.0, with 4 GB RAM.

Im unsure if mobo and everything makes a matter in choices,so heres my current specs: image below.

Thanks for any help!

[rustic pulsar]

whats ur budget

[heady turtle]

Btw I'd recommend getting 3600mhz cl16 ram instead usually cheaper and same/better perf as I'm pretty sure the timings are loose on that kit, I'd also grab this psu instead, 5$ more and way better psu https://pcpartpicker.com/product/PVzZxr/corsair-txm-gold-650w-80-gold-certified-semi-modular-atx-power-supply-cp-9020132-na

[pliant monolith]

@heady turtle. I already have this set up xD i could return the ram if need be. Amazon is good with returns haha

@rustic pulsar. Sorry forgot that part. Id prob be tapped at 300 atm.

[rustic pulsar]

what gpu do u have now

[glacial kelp]

If he has reviews, he is good. I have just got a 3060ti from an olx user. It's true that I drove to his city to pick it up :))

Don't buy from new accounts with too good to be true offers.

[pliant monolith]

Above list is all i got so far for the build no current gpu.

[calm stirrup]

Can you mine with a zotac card?

Like zotac 3070 or 3080 or nah?

[rustic pulsar]

maybe like a 1060/1070 on ebay, but u wont get much with 300 in the current market

[livid idol]

No reason you couldn't. If you mine eth then you might need to change the thermal pads. If it's LHR it's not as good at eth but still profitable.

[calm stirrup]

Waited in the zotac store que. Sht was priced at scalpers prices and most cards said LHR. Just going to be patient longer ig.

[heady turtle]

Ahh okay, that's fine then

[pliant monolith]

Seems i maybe better off buying prebuilds and take put the gpu xD. Should of waited lol

[livid idol]

Yeah Zotac is basically self-scalping. They figure if the scalpers are profiting they can cut into the profits lol.

[pliant monolith]

@rustic pulsar Should i just buy a prebuild with a GIGABYTE GeForce GTX 1660 SUPER for 900? (Have a giftcard for bestbuy to bring it down to 900)

[normal hawk]

Which 10th gen I5? 10400f huh?

[rustic pulsar]

pretty bad deal for a 1660 super, ill see if I find u a prebuilt for around 900, does it have to be bestbuy or can it be newegg or other sites

[rustic pulsar]

if u want a pre built I would get this but still, I would save up untill u can afford 1000-1200 USD pc

https://www.newegg.com/p/3D5-0012-00291?Description=gaming pc&cm_re=gaming_pc-_-9SIADFRFFY3020-_-Product

[pliant monolith]

I just figured id take the gpu and put in my build xD then give the base computer to someone or just have a back up 😄

I seen alot of 1660 super for 400+. Or im just bad at finding stuff

[livid idol]

If you're looking at 1660 might as well do 970, can be found around $150

[pliant monolith]

@livid idol. Is there a 4gb version? I dont see one out there

[livid idol]

Yes

[long forge]

Is a used 3090 for $2100 Canadian reasonable?

[cerulean rover]

If you could trust the seller and could test the GPU, yes, but that sounds pretty cheap, perhaps too good to be true.

[long forge]

Anything wrong with used?

[lone pond]

just shady that it’s a 3090 in a $2100 pc

[toxic sinew]

What?

No that's the price of the GPU

[heady turtle]

2100 cad

[toxic sinew]

Correct?

[heady turtle]

Someone selling 2nd hand for that price sus

[normal hawk]

3060 ti with a 600w PSU or is that iffy? 🤔

[heady turtle]

If it's a good 600w psu it's fine

[long forge]

It’s second hand? How much is brand new then

Sounds fair

How much was 3090 like a year ago?

[toxic sinew]

3090 Founders MSRP is $1500 USD

Canadian MSRP was around 2000 CAD

[normal hawk]

Probably not "CORSAIR SF Series SF600 600W 80 PLUS Gold" huh?

[lone pond]

Zotac

Zotac RTX3070 LHR ZT-A30700J-10PLHR GeForce RTX 3070 Twin Edge OC White LHR 8G GDDR6 Low Hashrate Gaming Graphics Card

For 1400$ Canadian

Is it worth it?

18% price drop

[keen nacelle]

I ran it with a 3600 on a Thermaltake 500w white... a very explosive one

Unbeknownst to be ofcourse

But it was fine for like 4 months or so

On any mid range or better 600w, unless for whatever reason it's being paired with a higher end 12th gen, you'll be fine

[lone pond]

I have a ASUS prime Z-590-A and a i7-11700k

A superflower 850w

Ah nvm my bad it wasnt meant for me

[fossil talon]

Not in a million years

Basically 2x the msrp still

Wait for BB Canada drop

Memory Express may have shipments coming soon for 3070s/3060tis for off the shelf purchases, unless you're on the West Coast (expect delays from BC floods)

[heady turtle]

A tier, should be fine

[crude plume]

Looking for some assistance. Last X-Mas we bought my son a Gaming PC, nothing serious, but we believed it would meet all the requirements he needed. It works for pretty much everything except his Oculus Quest 2. The computer is an ASUS Model GL10DH-NB551, the current Graphics Card is a NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1650 (4 GB).

[vital oriole]

The gpu is not enough for the heavier vr titles, it's a 1650

[crude plume]

I'm looking for a suitable upgrade that will fit and work with the Oculus 2 without breaking the bank

[heady turtle]

do you already have the oculus 2?

[crude plume]

my searches have me around $600ish

we have had the Oculus for alomst a year now...