graphics-cards

[calm stirrup]

Also no money for card then.

[fervent star]

yeah if i can make my money back on the card id be plenty happy

without damaging it too much

[cerulean rover]

just keep in mind getting your money out from nicehash is decently complicated, I would recomend looking into that first

[heady turtle]

Without electricity possibly lol

[fervent star]

yuh

[cerulean rover]

As in being included when filing for taxes, usually needing identification for currency exchanges, that kinda things

[heady turtle]

Unless you get a 3070 fe the tuning wont be exact as you won't want to be mining eth really but the nicehash coinbase stuff is the same

[heady turtle]

I don't think so?

Also you can move the btc to coinbase and then exchange there

[fervent star]

well i have a coinbase account already so i think i should be ok?

[heady turtle]

Mining is better for your card than gaming so you'll be fine lol

[calm stirrup]

Uhhh lol. Also wanted to get my hands on the ASUS TUF

[fervent star]

oh really? interesting

[cerulean rover]

Yes, that's what I'm talking about, looking at transfer fees and the procedure for using a currency exchange

[heady turtle]

Because fe cards are the only non lhr ones now, I'd recommend not being too specific, get the cheapest one you can that's not a ventus 2x

[heady turtle]

Nicehash to coinbase is free

[cerulean rover]

Since eth transfer fees expensive atm

[calm stirrup]

lhr?

[cerulean rover]

But is the exchange from eth to USD free?

[heady turtle]

And nicehash has flat like 2% rate or something, like .05 on coinbase pro

[heady turtle]

Ye

[heady turtle]

Light hash rate, basically purposely lowers eth hash rate

[cerulean rover]

Nicehash takes the fee from what they give you so don't really have to worry about that

[calm stirrup]

Oh hm.

[cerulean rover]

Thought Coinbase took a higher fee for currency exchange, guess not

[calm stirrup]

3070 or 3080 more worth for mining?

Calling best buy to see when their physical location restocks. Doubt they’ll tell me tho. No newegg or mucrocenter near me.

[heady turtle]

Maybe you were thinking of the wire fee?

But you can do PayPal for free

Afaik

[cerulean rover]

Probably

[fervent star]

is that a OnePlus phone

[heady turtle]

Yeah how'd you know lol

[fervent star]

looked similar 🤨

not quite the same but close enough for me to know it's oxygen os

[heady turtle]

The pings

[fervent star]

LOL yeah I'm in a lot of servers I'm not active in

[heady turtle]

Fair nough

[heady turtle]

You know you can mute them lol 😭

[fervent star]

that takes effort

I definitely should clean up my server list though one of these days

[rocky field]

Currently mining on 3070 and with the right overclock you can get 78.7 mh/s. I have a MSI SUPRIM X $800 CARD

[heady turtle]

What mind of cracked 3070 do you have

78mhs in eth?

[ocean harbor]

what's the difference between a 1650 super and a 1660

[cerulean rover]

1650 super: 128bit gddr6 at 1500mhz stock, 1280 shader cores, 1530mhz core clock
1660 : 192bit gddr6 at 2001mhz stock, 1408 shader cores, 1530mhz core clock

[ocean harbor]

thanks

[cerulean rover]

ignoring rops and tmus for now because those are don't matter much >:p

[ocean harbor]

yeah lol

[rocky field]

Yes, ETH. I have it overclocked to 1400 memory and the wattage dropped

[heady turtle]

Even if that was stable and you got a golden sample it might do 68 but not 78 lol

[cerulean rover]

It is suprim x so

[heady turtle]

Still

78mhs is a bit excessive

[cerulean rover]

Doesn't sound too hard, pretty sure bleach can do all the way up to 70mh/s with an unstable oc on their mobile 3070 in a laptop

So if you put more power into a desktop 3070, doesn't sound too outlandish

[rocky field]

Reported 62 but current 78

It's stable though, it's the best overclock I could figure out after some research

Overclocking using MSI afterburner

[heady turtle]

Believe it's 67/68 stable

[heady turtle]

If that's the case then you're oc is unstable and you're getting a good bit of rejected shares

[rocky field]

No stale shares, is there a way to post screenshots in here? There are reported mh/s rate and then there is a current mh/s rate.

[heady turtle]

You need to talk a bit more but you can dm me them and i can repost

Hmm

The hash rate is all over the place lol what's up with that

[rocky field]

I have no idea! Pretty weird but I get the highest payout with this set up

[heady turtle]

Damm

[rocky field]

If anyone is mining feel free to use this O/C setup I've been using it for about a year and my GPU still works fine (gpu has three fans & pc has 6) and temps are good

[keen nacelle]

I can do +1450mem on my 3060ti but it only gives like .5mh/s higher than 1250, anything higher gives rejected shares

So I just stick to 1250, -502 core, I've never seen over 62mh/s

But thats with a 55% power limit

I guess if power and Temps aren't an issue with 104 power limit I could probably get around 70, but I pay for the electricity I use mining, and I'd rather have low Temps anyways

[rocky field]

Same low power and high mem clock seems to be the recipe

[keen nacelle]

Wait you're getting 78mh/s, with a power limit?

What

On what gpu again?

[rocky field]

Yeah, but it's not very stable if you check the average, current, and reported

But it NEVER crashes

3070 MSI suprim x

[keen nacelle]

Holy

Must be some godly memory on that thing

[normal hawk]

I'm just glad the 5700xt doesn't heat up my room anywhere near as much as the 3080 ti does

The 3080 ti is literally a space heater. But to be fair, so is the PS5 on my desk lol.

[rocky field]

It's a massive GPU, barely fits in the fractal meshify c

[keen nacelle]

How hot does the vram on your 3080 ti get top?

[normal hawk]

Never checked.

[keen nacelle]

My friends 3080 asus tuf is getting up to 109c while mining, I told him to add some p12s

[normal hawk]

I don't mine on the 3080 ti

I mean in games lol

[keen nacelle]

110c is the danger zone for it right?

For 6x

[normal hawk]

I left AoE4 running all night and I woke up sweaty lol. Tbf my rooms ventilation sucks.

[keen nacelle]

The vent in my room doesn't work at all

[normal hawk]

Probably is the 5800x heating my room ngl

[keen nacelle]

I get hot asf in the summer

I got two fans in my room and it still gets hot

My friend is air cooling his 5800x, he did a cinebench on it a while ago and he got like 300pts above average 5800x

I want him to run one again to see how high it is compared to a 5900x

[normal hawk]

What cooler does he have?

[keen nacelle]

On single core that is

Dark rock 4 something or other I think

[normal hawk]

Ah

[rocky field]

Truth

[keen nacelle]

So basically as good as a 280mm

[rocky field]

Truth

[keen nacelle]

I think that's the one that is

[normal hawk]

I have a 240mm on both my 5950x and 5800x.

[keen nacelle]

With pbo on or no?

[normal hawk]

Yeah

[keen nacelle]

How hot do they get?

[normal hawk]

5800x idles hotter, but they both max at like 76°C or 77°C in 3dmark.

[keen nacelle]

Really

Wow

[normal hawk]

So not the danger zone so it's not too worrisome

5800x idles at like 42, 5950x idles at 37. 5800x has a better AIO on it and is in a better case though lol

5800x - EK 240mm AIO. 4000D airflow.

5950x - Corsair 240mm AIO
570x Mirror black.

[heady turtle]

Yeah but the components are the same internals, all that difference is pcb and cooler as well as tdp but that's irrelevant in this situation

[heady turtle]

They need to repad the mem

[heady turtle]

Yes

[rocky field]

Speaking on temps

[heady turtle]

Uhhh no, dark rock 4 and pro 4 are different and if anything it's closer to a 240mm, but a good 240mm still wins iirc

[heady turtle]

Ahh yeah your temps are chilly for 30% fan

[normal hawk]

NZXT 120mm 😏

Nah the 120mm i have is coolermaster

[heady turtle]

I mean 120mms can be okay but only in like sff builds

But cases like the ssupd meshilicous can hold a 280mm so

[normal hawk]

It's enough for a 3600 or something. But i have a 3700x In the sff case so that's why I wanted to get a new case

Cause its spicy

[heady turtle]

Fair

[keen nacelle]

It's the pro I'm fairly sure

[keen nacelle]

Does it void the warranty?

[heady turtle]

It shouldn't afaik as long as they dont break/damage anything

[keen nacelle]

When they asked what would help Temps they said they didn't want to open the gpu at all

I'm not sure if it was bc of warranty or bc they're worried about breaking smthn

[heady turtle]

Probably the latter

[keen nacelle]

Well they're pretty into pcs

Hes the one who got me into the pc world

Hes built a few pcs as well as worked in his dad's pc shop

[heady turtle]

Building pc is more like lego

Taking apart something you're a bit more worried

[radiant tinsel]

Hey guys, I need help! I currently have a RX 5700 (non XT) playing in 1440p +100 fps which I’m pretty comfortable with but someone just offered me 900$ for it! (probably a miner), if I buy an rtx 3060 would I have the same gaming experience? Should I rather use that $ for an upgrade like 6700xt? Or is it pretty much the same experience with both of ‘en just with extra steps?

[heady turtle]

For 1440p I'd aim for a 3060 ti/above or a 6700xt/above

[rocky field]

I'd go with 3060ti for 1440p gaming especially if you want to use any ray tracing features. Make sure the dudes legit and make sure you can even get your hands on the card you want.

[calm stirrup]

Does shuffle notify you right away or 4 hours after closure?

[empty compass]

@heady turtle do you know anything about the 4080/4090?

[heady turtle]

They wont be released dor about a year

[empty compass]

Damn, so long. I guess they gotta really plan it out well so they don't have another situation like they had this year and last.

[fervent star]

4070 price is rumored to be 800 dollars broooo

[empty compass]

😳

@fervent star I love your profile bio btw😂😂

[heady turtle]

They all take 2 years lol

9->10, 10->20, 20->30 took 2 year each

[empty compass]

Yeah, I guess ur right

[fervent star]

lol 😂 tyty

[white bloom]

when does overclocking damage the gpu? is it only when the voltage is increased or can it damage it when its undervolted as well?

[heady turtle]

If you dont manually touch voltage on a gpu and just touch power limit, core and mem you basically can't

Voltage is the thing that can hurt it

[white bloom]

what about increasing the power limit to 114%? wont this inherently increase the voltage? what makes doing that safe

[heady turtle]

Can't remember if it does pull more voltage but if it does it will be a safe amount

[cerulean rover]

Voltage and heat

[lone pond]

Does anyone know which is better? MSI Radeon RX 6700 XT MECH 2X 12G OC or MSI Radeon RX 6700 XT GAMING X 12G

They look nearly the same to me and I don’t know how to tell the difference

[normal hawk]

Get whichever is cheaper. But tbh i don't think 6700xt is at a good price in general. 6600xt or 6800xt.. maybe one of the cheaper 6900xts are a better option imo

[royal kernel]

i got an email for a gtx 1650 at 324$ is taht good

4gb

i also saw a gtx 1050 ti for 194

https://www.newegg.com/asus-geforce-gtx-1050-ti-ph-gtx1050ti-4g/p/N82E16814126170?item=N82E16814126170&utm_medium=Email&utm_source=IGNEFL110921&cm_mmc=EMC-IGNEFL110921-_-EMC-110921-Index-_-DesktopGraphicsCards-_-14126170-S1A1A&ignorebbr=1

[vital oriole]

no

[plucky sundial]

guys

in hwinfo

theres a section with GPU Power limits and its in Yes

what does that mean?

please ping upon reply

would be greatful

for the help

[vital oriole]

That's normal

GPUs has power limit

Unless you unlock it

But that puts the gpu to consume more power

[plucky sundial]

soo -

the yes indicates that

my gpu is under the power limits

[vital oriole]

Yeah

It's limited by the power limit

[magic wing]

Well

Temps too

[heady turtle]

It will throttle if temps too high

[magic wing]

I mean kenzie 110C moment

[heady turtle]

That's just g6x and aibs not padding properly

[magic wing]

No throttling tho

But yeah it should throttle but on a card with a bad cooler heat is still an issue

[summer shoal]

Hey so I’m debating whether to get a 3080 or 3080ti. Is it worth it to go for the ti? I was looking into the gigabyte 3080ti VISION. Is there a big difference between the cards I get to whether it’s an EVGA or Gigabyte or Asus?

[heady turtle]

Honestly, the 3080 ti isn't worth it, small improvement over the 3080. And the only difference is the coolers really, just get the cheapest non ventus 2x card

[cerulean rover]

non any 2 fan card really

[heady turtle]

Yeah but especially not ventus 2x

[green harness]

Personally, given a choice I'd get an EVGA or Asus card

EVGA GPUs generally have decent coolers, their support is excellent, and they have the best pricing

Asus has very good cards and I think decent support

Gigabyte has the worst pads on vram this gen I think and I don't really trust them or MSI at all

But ymmv

[heady turtle]

I'd take back the support from evga, they were very unreasonable with sips one time

[green harness]

Sips?

[heady turtle]

Orange mushroom the mod

[green harness]

What were they unreasonable about?

[heady turtle]

Rma or something

Can't remember exactly

Msi non ventus is good

Just expensive

[green harness]

Huh, well on balance they still seem to have the best CS of them all. There are bound to be problems now and again ofc.

Yeah, I haven't heard of issues with MSI products like I have the Gigabyte vram pads

Bottom of the barrel thermal pads on gddr6x 😬

[heady turtle]

@mighty island what was your issue with evga again btw?

[cerulean rover]

Bleach was just unlucky with his EVGA 3070 iirc, don't think had any rma issues

The 3070 where they had to tighten one of the spring tensioned screws on the back

[mighty island]

they forgot to screw in the damn cooler

[mighty island]

6 screws were loose, not 1

[cerulean rover]

oh fun

[heady turtle]

Ahh yes quality

[mighty island]

it was just even worse that the spring loaded main screw was loose

that's probably what killed the card

I couldn't see a problem on core temps but that probably killed the vram since it started artifacting

[heady turtle]

Bruh

[mighty island]

and it wasn't just loose it was like almost falling out

[green harness]

Yikes

[mighty island]

it was just sad that I couldn't catch the issue since the 3070 has no vram temp sensors

[green harness]

That's quite a QA failure

[mighty island]

yeah

they denied my first RMA request

finally got RMA after more than a month

[green harness]

That could happen with any manufacturer I think, but it's really surprising that they tried to deny rma

[mighty island]

first thing I did when I got the new card was tear it apart

and do the damn QA myself

also

the second time they almost denied RMA again

because they put the wrong serial number in their system

and were trying to tell me that I was telling them the wrong serial number

they ended up having to call the guy with the serial number that they thought I had and asking him to verify his serial number

[vapid bramble]

Thinking of just getting a RX 6900XT as the one I like is in stocks would be a upgrade from my 2080 and wait till the 3090 I want comes in stock ( smh I should have bought the 3090 when I had the chance ) just don't know why the rog is like $600 more then what I am looking at when spec's look about the same

[mighty island]

strix tax

asus fanboys are willing to pay it

so they charge it

[vapid bramble]

Ahh thanks. Looking at the sapphire if I get it.

[heady turtle]

6900xt is better than 3090 in most games if you don't use ray tracing anyway, and no point getting 3090 over 3080 ti unless its for workstation reasons

[vapid bramble]

Only thing that annoys me is I've a intel cpu and mb so couldn't use the cards max boost or what ever it's called that uses the processor unless I get a new processor and MB and my I9 9900k is still a good processor

[heady turtle]

Are you talking about resizable bar? That has an overall negative effect in games anyway, it can help some but majority of games it performs worse

[vapid bramble]

No the rage mode i mean

[mighty island]

just overclock it yourself

[cerulean rover]

all rage mode does is a simple OC with higher pl iirc

nothing fancy

[vapid bramble]

O thanks thought it did something else the the way they said it draws from your cpu

[heady turtle]

The drawing from the cpu is resizeable bar (amd calls it SAM if amd cpu and gpu) but what i said above applies, overall it's worse with it on

[green harness]

My understanding is resizable bar/sam is case by case in games and sometimes offers modest gains

[heady turtle]

It is but if you average out a lot of games, performance is down by like 10%

[magic wing]

Autocorrect moment

[heady turtle]

https://tenor.com/view/shhh-shush-silence-nose-gif-17895433

[magic wing]

Resistable bar

Yes

Thats what it is

[wicked galleon]

I have a question and I am not sure if this is where I can ask for tech advice. Anyways. How can I look up what wifi cards are compatible to the motherboard I have on my pc?

[heady turtle]

as long as you have a free pcie slot on your motherboard, basically anyone can, but aim for a card with the ax200 chipset

[wicked galleon]

I bought this Intel AX201 from newegg and my computer would not read or recognize that it was installed. they sent me the chip with no other hardware. I tried to troubleshoot it but no success. Now i am not that inclined with computer knowledge but the basics haha.

[cerulean rover]

Keep in mind, we usually tell people to get the pcie cards that has a m.2 card on a pcie card along with antennas on the pcie card, if they only sent you the ax201 m.2_e card, you'll need antennas to actually use it @wicked galleon

[heady turtle]

as well as a m.2 e slot on your motherboard

cant use it with a regular m.2 storage slot

[wicked galleon]

okay. Now the way i installed it was removing my old wifi card and then removed the chip. installed the new chip and the antennas back on how i removed the old one. and back to the pcie1 slot. i figured since they only shipped me the chip and nothing else, that it would work if i just changed out the chips. @cerulean rover

[cerulean rover]

There's probably some driver issues with putting in a new card the pcie card might not recognize

[wicked galleon]

I was doing a little bit of research but i do not have the ability to run a hardwire to the computer. so i could not look for drivers. and i don't know if my motherboard supports something else than what it came with (H310CM-IB). because before buying the chip one i had purchased one called Wavlink ax3000 wifi 6 with the intel ax200 and the connection was too erratic and would drop a lot. kicking me out of games

[cerulean rover]

Did you get drivers for that previous card?

[wicked galleon]

yeah it came with a link for the drivers if i remember correctly. and i was able to update or install the drivers for the card

[heady turtle]

And is it like that on any other wifi devices in your home?

[cerulean rover]

Weird

[heady turtle]

Ax200 is like one of the best wifi chips

[wicked galleon]

nope. no other devices have any issues. my wifi card that my pc originally came with does not lose connection at all.

[cerulean rover]

wonder if its just interference on the 5ghz band for some reason or smth

[wicked galleon]

i was thinking the same thing. but we had a tech from our internet provider and check things out and nothing seemed out of order after he ran some tests.

[cerulean rover]

Wonder if it had to do with leftover drivers from the previous wifi card

[wicked galleon]

I don't even know how to go about fixing that haha

[cerulean rover]

uninstall previous drivers

It'll prob still show up in device manager as the name of your previous wifi card

[wicked galleon]

i will be looking to see if i can buy another wifi card and see if i can get it working. I would just like to have good speeds for gaming. but once i get the new card i will be reaching out if i need some help. thanks for your help today. You guys have a good one.

[brittle shoal]

is a gtx 970 good for light gaming

i have a gt 1030 right now, and i have a budget of $200 for a gpu

[heady turtle]

Yep

[vapid bramble]

Thoughts on rx6900xt Sapphire toxic LE?

[heady turtle]

It's a 6900xt

Good card

Honestly though overpriced probs

You can buy 6900xts that are either better or just as good for 1600ish

[vapid bramble]

Yeah though pretty much limiting my card choices to ones with the rgb and aio, so this one, the rog, and the gigabyte water force.

Though this one is a 360mm might not fit so might have to get thecrog or gigabyte if so probably wait for a gigabyte really don't like the looks of the rog

[heady turtle]

Why you limiting choice to aio cards?

[rapid turret]

I think my 3070 is glitched or smth

I was playing fh5 and the details were glitching

Loke i saw random weird texture on rocks

On the road as Well

[fervent star]

drivers?

[livid idol]

Despite this guy using clickbait titles a lot, this seems to be a legitimate "trick" to finding a gpu in the US.
https://youtu.be/Fn-1bl6S0cw

[heady turtle]

Wow

[livid idol]

I tried with each of the stores near me and each came up with at least 1 gpu, including a 3080ti FE.

[heady turtle]

Damm

[heady turtle]

I wonder if it's the returns

[livid idol]

That's what I'm thinking it is, because only one of my local stores actually does gpu restock

If I had another $1200 I'd totally run into town and get that 80ti

[heady turtle]

just to mine with?

[heady turtle]

@karmic crag hey youre looking for a gpu right? might be worth a shot

[livid idol]

Nah, to resell at a minimal markup to someone I could verify is a gamer

[heady turtle]

fair

[karmic crag]

thanks for the heads up Pato, much appreciated 👍

[heady turtle]

np

[gusty warren]

hey how much do 3070s fhr go for?

[heady turtle]

Buying? 500(fe only) 600-800(non fe) from retailers, like 1200 scalped

[gusty warren]

P/N: 08G-P5-3755-KL is what u got for like 700

[heady turtle]

What?

[gusty warren]

prolly selling it tbh to cover for a cheaper card

thats the product code

[heady turtle]

What's the name of it?

That means nothing to anyone lol

[gusty warren]

EVGA GeForce RTX 3070 XC3 ULTRA GAMING, 08G-P5-3755-KL, 8GB GDDR6, iCX3 Cooling, ARGB LED, Metal Backplate, LHR

[heady turtle]

Ahh 3070 xc3

[gusty warren]

yessir

[heady turtle]

Yeah you could probs sell for 1200idh

[gusty warren]

rlly how about a 3080ti

pocketed it for like 900

[heady turtle]

Huh? There's no way you got a 3080 ti for 300 less than msrp

[gusty warren]

seems like he couldnt sell it anywhere

idk at the end of the day im getting rid of it

[heady turtle]

You sure it wasn't a 3080 non ti lol?

Anyway, nice

But idk how they wouldn't especially at that price

[livid idol]

Maybe the guy tried selling on ebay and had a couple troll accounts win the bids. Then they don't pay.
At that point you want to just get rid of it.

[gusty warren]

yeah he said 900 here and now if ur serious

i was like how tf isnt this a scam

[vapid bramble]

To match the other rgb parts in my case and to get a cooler running card.

[normal hawk]

A lot of cards have RGB.

And depending on the card, AIO's aren't always preferable.

[livid idol]

cough gigabyte 3090 aorus xtreme waterforce cough cough

[rich wraith]

Should I flip my gpu rad orientation?

[normal hawk]

Oh you got the ROG

[rich wraith]

Ye?

[green harness]

Ideally yes

[heady turtle]

The 3 fan cards can be very cool, for example the asrock formula is a very nice card

[quartz gull]

Chances on an FE 3070(ti)/3080 at MSRP? I wanna do a GPU upgrade too but I work a lot so I don't have time to constantly refresh pages without any days off

[livid idol]

Well, the only place to get the FE at msrp is best buy. There's a "trick" with the app you can do to see the returned inventory in stock at your local stores. There might be a FE at one.

You can search for something like "rtx" or "founder's" and then toggle the in stock filter switch. It'll probably have a gpu there listed as out of stock. Go to that store and ask them to lookup the gpu by sku number. If you ask directly if they have anything in stock they'll probably just say no.

[quartz gull]

None for my nearest 6 stores

All they have is the 16 pin to 12 pin adapter lol

[livid idol]

I'd say your chances are slim at best then. You'll need to camp out at the next restock.

[faint zealot]

i just follow wario64 on twitter and catch BestBuy online restocks. ive gotten 3 3070s from doing that. or just got lucky being on the website at the right time

hes usually a little slow at the gpu stuff and sometimes miss the drops but thats how i got notified :p. i just happen to sit at a computer all day so its easy for me

[long forge]

What’s the best chance of getting a GPU in Canada? Heard many talks for bestbuy but not sure if this applies for Canadian base customers

[vital oriole]

Newegg canada works too

Amazon and more

[heady turtle]

Use https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/products/cpu/ to find the retailer with the cheapest price for the cpu you want

[long forge]

Sorry i meant GPU

typo

[heady turtle]

Ahh, amd.com, newegg, best buy

I think canada computers do some too

[long forge]

oh like do they have a process to get GPU's when they restock for close or at MSRP?

[faint zealot]

i think only the newegg shuffle is the only process i know of. gamestop and some ohter retailers have like paid memberships to get early access. sometimes bestbuy will announce before hand to line up at a local store

[heady turtle]

Probably lol

[heady turtle]

Shuffle is us only

[faint zealot]

i figured

i just follow people on twitter or get a in stock bot to notify you. but im us based not sure how it works in canada

even though i live an 30ish min from canada lol

[faint zealot]

bestbuy had an online drop a bit ago

[long forge]

Aww yeah see im in Canada so its probably a different process

i might jsut go to my local bestbuy / Canada Computers and ask about it

[heady turtle]

Good idea

[safe oyster]

What are 3060 ti going for right now?

[heady turtle]

From retailers or scalpers?

[shell knot]

What's the difference?

[heady turtle]

Bout 500

[vapid bramble]

Yeah love how your choices are Newegg shuffle were they pair a card most times with some garbage part you don't want a and can't seperate them or buy the card from some scalper for a few hundred more then the shuffle combo, no wonder they don't put a stop to the slime reseller when they can profit off of selling the trash parts they put in the shuffle.

Going to have to go to Reddit aita with my solution to that sure I will be the A but completely fine with that

[dreamy dragon]

RandomAsian#0284 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

[primal moon]

If your lucky enough to get one from best buy they rang from 400-550$

[long forge]

how about 3080?

and is 400-550 for 3060 ti USD?

[cerulean rover]

3080 FE is 700$, AIB range from around 800-1000$

And yes usd

[long forge]

sorry new here what is FE and AIB lol

[livid idol]

FE is founder's edition (nvidia model), AIB are the partner brands like MSI, Asus, etc.

[cerulean rover]

AIB stands for Add in board, because those partners add in a board and a cooler for the GPU NVidia made

[faint zealot]

I wonder how long it will take to finally get the product on shelves

So nuts on what's going on with electronics

Been trying to upgrade to a 3080. Don't need it but want it, so not to worried

[steel merlin]

I'm in the exact same boat and I will not do a newegg bundle shuffle I only want the card 3080 or a TI is fine for me to replace my 3070

[heady turtle]

@little sleet can you pin this and unpin the text wall please?

[quartz gull]

Some people have shipped them to Canada using shipping forwarding companies, which will cost like an extra $40 in shipping

[heady turtle]

Not sure if shuffle allows that but fair, you would have to have the forwarding thing arranged and as your address when entering the shuffle though

[quartz gull]

Nvidia, AMD and Intel have all said second half 2023

[quartz gull]

They wouldn't know. You ship it with your full name to the company, they get the package, then you call them and tell them the details of the package and they'll reship it. It's how some Europeans get cheaper GPU prices too. (Albeit sometimes illegal for getting around import taxes)

[heady turtle]

Not worth it to do for EU with shipping and tariffs, have to be aware of tariffs going to canada too

[quartz gull]

Yeah. But it's better than scalper prices

[fossil crow]

Is RTX 3080 the newest graphics card?

[heady turtle]

Not really, US tax(7%) + locker fee(30$?) + overseas shipping (85$?) + Import country tax(20-25%)

[faint zealot]

must of missed that, hopfully it doesnt get pushed

[heady turtle]

The whole rtx 3000 lineup are the newest ones, although technically 3070 ti and 3080 ti where the most recent releases date wise

[fossil crow]

what’s the the difference between ti and the regular ones?

They are on pre order for $100 a month is that a good deal or should I wait?

[toxic sinew]

That's not buying a RTX 3080

That's just GeForce NOW which is a game streaming service

$100 for 6 months of access to the service

[heady turtle]

Depends on card
3060 lowest card this gen - still good
3060 ti bout 20% ish better than 3060
3070 is about 10% better 3060 ti
3070 ti is up to 2% better than 3070, basically same card
3080 is about 15-20% ish above 3070
3080 ti/3090 are bout 5% better than 3080

[fossil crow]

Oh

What is the next newest card?

[quartz gull]

A lot of fabs come online during that time. They don't see prices/demand coming down without it

[toxic sinew]

4000 series when it comes out

[quartz gull]

Probably Intel Arc in January

[heady turtle]

Better question is what is your budget for a graphics card?

[cunning pumice]

ok probally a very stupid question but if my mobo has a PCI-E 3,0 x16 can I use a graphics card with a PCI-E 4.0

[toxic sinew]

Yeah

[cunning pumice]

ok ty

[fossil crow]

Whatever the price for it is I guess

[heady turtle]

No like, whats your budget for buying a graphics card? Then we can help you find the best one for your budget

[solemn panther]

Hm

[quartz gull]

PCIE is backwards compatible. A PCIE 5.0 card would be able to use a PCIE 1.0 Slot (with a bandwidth bottle neck ofc)

[fossil crow]

I don’t know enough about the price of graphics cards to say exactly

Maybe 2000 ?

[fossil crow]

I don’t know enough about the price of graphics cards to say exactly. 2000 maybe

[quartz gull]

Oh

[heady turtle]

2000 usd? That's way more than needed

[quartz gull]

You can get a highest end 3090/6900XT for that price!

[livid idol]

I'd do 3080 ti instead of those tbh

[quartz gull]

That's fair

No need for the 24GB of memory

[quartz gull]

What resolution do you have?

[solemn panther]

3080ti good

[fossil crow]

How do I check resolution? I have a rtx 3070

[toxic sinew]

You already have a great GPU

[quartz gull]

Oh, you already have a good gpu. You can check it by right clicking your desktop and going to display settings

[toxic sinew]

No need to upgrade for awhile most likely

[quartz gull]

Your GPU is amazing

It's faster than Both the PS5 And XSX for an idea of how much power you have

[fossil crow]

Okay great. I’m still new to all this and learning about my system. I was wondering when is a good time to upgrade

[quartz gull]

Probably in 2024 honestly

[livid idol]

Give it about 4 years

[quartz gull]

Yeah 2024-2025 range would be great

[livid idol]

Nvidia 5000 series, maybe

Depends what you play

[quartz gull]

Like my GPU came out in January 2019 and I may wait until 2022 for a new GPU

[delicate jackal]

If any of yall live in the chicago area theres a 3080 ti in one of the besy buys in Huntley

[fossil crow]

Is it worth upgrading from a 2070 to a 2090? Or should I wait for the next new series?

[quartz gull]

You mean 3070 to 3090?

It's a 3x price increase for 53% more performance. It would not be worth it at all.

Your 3070 is already plenty powerful

[fossil crow]

Yes that’s what I meant

[livid idol]

There is no 2090, that would be a titan rtx

[fossil crow]

It was a typo sorry.

[livid idol]

Yeah I see that now, we sent message at the same time

And I agree with tulip

[quartz gull]

Wait until 4080 at least

[fossil crow]

I just in the middle of typing what should I get next in so many years ahead lol what will the 4080 be like? Or is it too soon to say?

[livid idol]

Idk about that one, early leaks say it's more powerful but also draws way more power. I'm talking 1000W power supply minimums.

[quartz gull]

Going by previous generations, probably like 30-40% stronger than the 3080ti

[livid idol]

Leaks being leaks of course, but they're suggesting it's bigger than that

I saw claims of double perf at nearly double power

That would sure give the new intel chips a run for their money. Imagine a cpu bottleneck at 4k

[fossil crow]

Say I change graphics card, do I have to change other parts in the computer?

[livid idol]

Too early to know, but probably not. If anything the power supply might need an upgrade.

[fossil crow]

The power supply?

[livid idol]

Yeah, which one do you have now?

[fossil crow]

Without my pc in front of me I can’t check

[livid idol]

Was it a prebuilt or did you build it?

[fossil crow]

Pre built

[livid idol]

They probably put the minimum power supply in there in that case. A higher performing gpu will draw more power, so you'll definitely need a new psu.

Unless you like fire

[fossil crow]

I won’t be upgrading until the 4080 like suggested

[cerulean rover]

The future will be uncertain, so we'll have to see

[calm stirrup]

Anyone live in Tuscon? lol

[twin dove]

Arizona?

[long forge]

my PC is 8 years old, and im using a 980... im in Canada, i want to build a new PC but this stupid GPU shortage is tough... I think i did narrow it down to 3080/3080Ti though or 3060Ti

my sister in law lives in the US, how do i find out about the process of getting a GPU in the US and maybe find a way to bring it back over to Canada?

[faint zealot]

Tbh it seems easier to get 3070s and lower, not sure if there's more stock or they are just 2nd in line behind the 3080s and that's why they are a bit easier to get

I've gotten 3 3070s but just cannot get a 3080 in a cart. I guess I did win the newegg shuffle for a 3080 ti and mobo but passed on it

[long forge]

can someone explain to me how the newegg shuffle works so i can explain to my sister in law to try and get me one lol

or other processes to land a GPU

[vital oriole]

You get a chance to buy stuff in the shuffle

Basically a raffle to buy that you have to win

[faint zealot]

Have to have a newegg account, u go to neeegg shuffle then select what ones you want to win then submit. Then you will get a text message and email if you win saying you have until 9 to make the purchase

[long forge]

Ok thanks guys, i also youtubed the process. seems simple enough, is newegg shuffle best option?

How much do the 3060Ti go? and 3080 go?

[vital oriole]

You have to check yourself

[brave violet]

3080's go from 850-1.1k(usually the MSI or asus models) BB. aswell, newegg shuffle or Antonline is good places

[dreamy dragon]

Javbuff2008/CPL.Velasquez.J#4624 has been warned

Reason: Duplicated text

[brave violet]

^lol is a best buy link

[quartz gull]

From what I've seen, we tolerate links to non-newegg stores here, as long as they're trusted like Amazon, best buy, etc.

Holy crap does Newegg want to get rid of z590 boards... Almost every GPU in shuffle is bundled with one

[heady turtle]

Yep

[quartz gull]

Glad we're not controlling information on what other stores are doing. A lot of web store discords don't allow outside links. Great freedom of speech here

[glacial kelp]

Black Friday discount in my country 😄 3060ti, 1200 euro :))

[heady turtle]

Nice, a card finally

[magic wing]

Ouch

[heady turtle]

Afaik that's a steal in their country

[glacial kelp]

Still waiting for the magic eu evga YOU ARE THE CHOSEN ONE email.

2023-2024

Of course, in many places there is a big red/orange/flashy label saying LAST ONE IN STOCK, LAST 3 in STOCK.

The entire day they are the last ones in stock 😛

Grab it while you can!! :))

[magic wing]

OOf

[keen nacelle]

Currently being told that a 4770 is enough for a 1080 ti

And 1080p is gpu bound

[vital oriole]

I wanna die at that statement

Those people doesn't realize less gpu load = more cpu load

[keen nacelle]

Foxy

The worst thing is

Hes not stupid when it comes to pcs

Though he did buy a 980 pro when he doesn't do any editing or anything of the sort

[vital oriole]

kek

That's a shame

[keen nacelle]

Yep

And he's giving advice to someone else

Which makes it even worse

[heady turtle]

Depends on the gpu

[quartz gull]

It was enough when the 1080ti launched imo. CPU requirements are steadily going up though. My 8600k was bottlenecking my 2060 at high settings at 1080p in Forza Horizon 5 for example. Games used to rely only on single core performance, but now are using a lot more

[green harness]

Yeah, pretty sure if I put my gt710 in I'd be GPU bound at 1080p

[magic wing]

Im gpu bound at 1080p

[keen nacelle]

I'm talking about with a 4770 and 1080 ti

Also what's your setup again?

[magic wing]

Ahh my bad

[magic wing]

R5 3600x, 3800c14 ram and an rx580

[keen nacelle]

Ah yeah

Def cpu bound lmao

I thought ryzen had trouble with ram over 3600mhz?

[magic wing]

Late sample

[keen nacelle]

Ah

[magic wing]

Mid 2020 iirc

[keen nacelle]

I wonder what speeds mine could run

It's late 2020, but its a bad bin I believe

So I doubt much over 3600

[magic wing]

3800 is hard limit for me tho

[magic wing]

Mine is degraded lol

[keen nacelle]

What ghz does yours hit?

Mine won't go over 4.1 on stock

[magic wing]

4.3

[keen nacelle]

And haven't bothered ocing it since I don't need the extra cpu perf

[magic wing]

My cpu used to hit 4.5

[keen nacelle]

Pbo doesn't help much either

My single core goes down actually

Multi core goes up like 20pts in cinebench r23

[magic wing]

I made the mistake of blindly trusting an ltt video when i was a noob tho

[keen nacelle]

F

[magic wing]

And ended up with a degraded cpu

[keen nacelle]

Sadly in a few years I'll have to go for a laptop

Well

More like 3.5years or so

I'll be in a tiny dorm room without space for a set up

[magic wing]

Ouch

[keen nacelle]

But

I might be able to get rid of some stuff in my room to have a desk for an extra monitor

And depending on how big it is I might be able to go sff

My brothers going to the college that I'm going to go for after my associates next year, so I'll see it then

[magic wing]

Oh nice

[keen nacelle]

I'll probably learn how to use liquid metal, and go thr whole nine yards like sips did

[magic wing]

Ill do that in maybe 4 years

Because i graduate in 3

Ill work my bum off for a year

[keen nacelle]

What're you going to school for?

[magic wing]

And blow all my money on a pc

[keen nacelle]

I just started a job last week

[magic wing]

Comp sci

[keen nacelle]

Wow

Bachelors?

[magic wing]

Yeah

[keen nacelle]

Well

Are the names of degrees world wide?

[magic wing]

As in?

[keen nacelle]

Like

Is a bachelor's in America the same thing everywhere else, or is it a different name

[magic wing]

Its the same here

[keen nacelle]

Per country or per region

Ah

Wasn't sure

[magic wing]

Bachelors then masters and then phd

[keen nacelle]

Associates before bachelor's too?

[magic wing]

Nope

[keen nacelle]

Hmm

We got associates as a 2 year degree

[magic wing]

10 years of school then 2 years of junior college and then 3 years of bachelors

What are u studying btw

[keen nacelle]

I'm not in college yet, but I either want to be a physicians assistant, registered nurse, or do something in the tech field

I'm really not sure yet

[magic wing]

Oh all 3 sound interesting

[keen nacelle]

I've wanted to be in the medical field since I was 8, but now that im involved in the tech world its super interesting and fun

[magic wing]

Yeah tech nice

[keen nacelle]

I just realized

Most of my tech knowledge comes from this server

[magic wing]

Is good server for info

[keen nacelle]

Yeah

[magic wing]

Oh damn gtg do my assignment

Ttyl

[keen nacelle]

Aight cya

Gl

[magic wing]

Thanks

[normal hawk]

bacca, which 3060 ti do you have?

[heady turtle]

Gaming oc

[keen nacelle]

Gigabyte gaming oc pro

I ended up not

Decided I'd rather have the better mining

[long forge]

I might have missed anyone know the MSRP for 3060Ti and 3080? I’m from Canada

[terse grail]

Anyone have an issue with the NVIDIA Control Panel application ? Ordered a computer with a GeForce RTX 3060 and when I try to open the Control Panel Client, it does not work. The application does not even seem to be installed, even if I have the latest driver installed.

[livid idol]

In USD $400 and $800 respectively

[heady turtle]

Try download geforce experience first
https://www.nvidia.com/en-gb/geforce/geforce-experience/

It's a Friday

It's only 12.30

[terse grail]

Already have it installed. The thing is that the client application folder is missing, so even the nvcplui.exe is not installed.

[long forge]

If I’m available to get my hands on one what is considered reasonable to pay above MSRP?

[heady turtle]

Then download ddu, go into safe mode and run ddu, then reinstall the drivers

[heady turtle]

I'd say 350-400 cad

[terse grail]

Did that as well, with DDU... Didn't work... 😦

[heady turtle]

Safe mode should do anything

[livid idol]

In CAD around 750 for 3060ti or 1300 for 3080 would be the max I'd pay

[heady turtle]

Rip

[long forge]

Thanks for putting in Canadian for me

[heady turtle]

I'd try it again

[gray bloom]

isnt 3060ti on 800-1000?

brand new?

[long forge]

I’ll double check the price he said possibly $8-900 for it and $1400

Yes and these are brand new

[livid idol]

It shouldn't be that high, 1000 CAD is $800 USD

That's double msrp, way too high

[gray bloom]

yeah thats what they sell mmx and cc wise

if we talkint about founders

then thats the price

but founder are triple the price rn

[heady turtle]

@long forge check the guide in pins, I'm guessing you're getting those prices from scalped Amazon cards or something

[gray bloom]

just line up on bestbuy maybe u have a chance on founders

[terse grail]

I'll give it a last try, even if I am amazed by the fact that major companies still can' deliver drivers and supporting apps that work without having to perform weird clean-up/reboot/restart/resinstall random sequences...

[livid idol]

Even considering canada has worse supply it shouldn't be that high markup unless scalpers

[gray bloom]

i woud rather line up or go to a local store rather than order it online after the evga incident

[terse grail]

Nevertheless, thanks for you help and response !

[livid idol]

If you're in eastern canada I think canada computers does in person drops

[heady turtle]

It is the way it is i guess, there will always be bugs and stuff 🤷‍♂️

[heady turtle]

Yw :)

[gray bloom]

our supply in canada is really bad

i can hardly find any nvidia card unless u going for amd card we have stocks still only high end

[heady turtle]

The truck incident?? They're not gonna be sold by retailers lol only scalpers, and tbh they're most likely gonna sell to a mining farm imo

[gray bloom]

someone stole a truck full of evga cards somewhere in san fran

[livid idol]

I remember hearing about that, they went full on GTA

[heady turtle]

That's what i just said lol

[karmic crag]

heyo i got an evga notify queue email

it's been a few hours so i doubt the card is still in stock

[heady turtle]

Good luck

Go check

[livid idol]

At least they've been doing second chance emails for those that miss the first

Puts you right back at the top of the queue

[heady turtle]

Ohhh that's nicee

[long forge]

Are the prices on Newegg website MSRP? A friend of mine got the 3080ti for 2.8k Canadian after taxes and shipping for the asus strix model

[normal hawk]

That's gross

Probably bought it from a scalper. Newegg has 3rd party sellers

[livid idol]

You can report those overpriced items to [e-mail] and they get taken down

[normal hawk]

200$ usd over the Asus strix models retail price of 1999$. Which is too much for a 3080 ti anyway imo

Wait actually that's right

[normal hawk]

Nah, that's actually probably the right price after taxes.

2k + tax will end up around 2.2k depending on where you are in the US.

[long forge]

He didn’t get it from a scalper, he got it from the Newegg Canadian Site, we’re from Canada

Was like 2.3k then after taxes etc it ends up being 2.8k

Is that considered MSRP?

[normal hawk]

Newegg has 3rd party sellers. But yours is about right.

[livid idol]

Ah, then yeah that's about right at 2.3k cad

[long forge]

Wow I never knew 3080Ti is that expensive

[normal hawk]

Not actual MSRP no. Asus rog strix cards are scalped by asus

[livid idol]

It's as good (better sometimes than) the 3090

[normal hawk]

My 3080 ti was about 1600$USD after taxes

[long forge]

Ok so someone mentioned to check pins? Because I might be pulling the trigger on building my PC next week or two and want to refer to something to see whether the GPU I’ll get is reasonable

[livid idol]

Mine was $1200+tax
FE FTW

Yeah there's a buying guide in the pins that might help

[long forge]

Sorry I’m noob how do i check pins?

[livid idol]

Pin icon

https://github.com/NeweggTechie/GPU-Buying-Guide/wiki

[normal hawk]

Asus, MSI, ZOTAC, and PNY have put their cards to higher prices. Gigabyte do scummy bundles with power supplies and mobo's.

[livid idol]

Gigaturd is still doing scummy things, now crappy B460 boards with high end GPUs

[normal hawk]

Ye

Both my gpu's came with Z590's. Too bad I use amd too much lol

Sold one to a friend after his PC caught on fire and killed his PC

[wooden fern]

I am getting ready to start my first ever build, can you let me know if the graphics card I am looking at is good?

https://www.newegg.com/msi-geforce-gtx-1650-gtx-1650-d6-ventus-xs-oc/p/N82E16814137529?Item=9SIAHT8G690098

[vital oriole]

Way overpriced

[wooden fern]

really?

[vital oriole]

yeah

its msrp was like 150

[wooden fern]

dang, what graphics card would you recommend then?

[vital oriole]

at this current time i would suggest a prebuilt

depends on your budget that is

[wooden fern]

around 1,000 to 1,100 (yeah I am definitely going budget for this)

[vital oriole]

Newegg has open box deals

Check #tech-deals

[wooden fern]

okay, thank you

[heady turtle]

3080 ti should be about 1500-1950 cad yeah

[long forge]

Where do you find a reference for those prices? Is there a website to tell us what the MSRP is so I know general rule of thumb what I should consider reasonable to pay, the person I’m getting from isn’t a scalper it’s a store so I just want to know and compare

[heady turtle]

That's just from me seeing what they go from retailers is in the us converted to cad, but if you google like 3080 ti msrp canada or something it should show up

[median sequoia]

Intel I9-12900k or AMD Ryzen Threadripper 3960X

[magic wing]

What do u wanna use it for

[median sequoia]

Gaming mostly

[vital oriole]

Just get 12600K for games and you'll be all good

[magic wing]

^

[median sequoia]

Nice thanks

[magic wing]

Or wait a few months to see what amd is dropping

[long forge]

If we’re thinking future proof would spending the extra money for the 12900 be worth it? i9 just sounds so much better than i5 lol

[vital oriole]

Nope

Not worth at all

The 12900K barely has any gains over 12600K

Unless you do stuff that benefits from extra cores

Cause overall with p-cores and e-cores, 12600K has plenty of it

10 cores overall lel

[heady turtle]

Threadripper dumb for gaming, get a 5800x or 12600k/12700k

[median sequoia]

True

For future proofing ues

Yes

[vital oriole]

TR is worse than Ryzen in gaming lel

Cause they're made for different workloads

[median sequoia]

I’m leaning more towards AMD for gaming tho

[vital oriole]

Thing is Intel is better value atm, minus ddr5 that is

[heady turtle]

At higher end but amd cheaper boards

[vital oriole]

ye

But 12600K is cheaper than 5800X bar mobo and ram

[heady turtle]

Yeah but you need to include the entire platform cost

[vital oriole]

tru

[winged minnow]

this is like 10-25 dollars

[heady turtle]

Wonder why

@winged minnow that's just a shroud

[winged minnow]

shroud?

[heady turtle]

Just the plastic and fans

[winged minnow]

ok

this makes me feel dump

[dreamy dragon]

Kartikeyyy<3#2301 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

[calm stirrup]

I'm not trying to deter you at all but in a normal market with that money you're getting a pc that can run current games and will kind of get you by but wouldn't really be all too great unless you can find a bunch of deals on parts. If I were you I would get a new console or save a bit more money. I say that bc this market rn is hella inflated so if you're not ready to dish out some pretty pennies you might be pretty dissapointed in what you got for your money.

[heady turtle]

3060 and i5 10400 or i7 9700 will just get you by??

[cerulean rover]

10400+3060 is a common prebuilt that goes on sale for around 1200$

3300x prices tend to still suck but anyways

[heady turtle]

Or open box for 1100

[cerulean rover]

For 140 ish you can get a 10400

[calm stirrup]

3060 is an exception if you can actually get it at or close to msrp. But I also didn't tack on the bit where you could find what is now with new gen stuff releasing getting to be older tech. Doubt the i5 has much future proofing. Depends on what you intend to do and needs ig. My needs would say no bc I game and get low frames without streaming and ended up wanting to stream and know other streamers running 6 core cpus that are miserable with that.

[heady turtle]

Find a 3300x within 40$ for that price now, new

No lol

3300x isn't available anymore like ever

If it is it's scalped

3300x just never had like any stock

[calm stirrup]

Also I said save more money. I didn't mean he has to get a ridiculous pc. Just meant save to 1500-1800 range.

[heady turtle]

But yeah that's fine for you but you can't recommend it to others because they're just like not available

[calm stirrup]

I wouldn't rebuy a $1000 pc and would save a bit more money but that's my opinion.

[heady turtle]

3060 is way more than will get you by tho

[calm stirrup]

Well if that's what you want to do and you're set on it go for it man. I still loved switching to pc gaming from console I'm just often very frustrated with frame drops and a very slow pc from my cpu being throttled. Part of that though was that I didn't know as much as I do now when buying though and these guys can help with that so best of luck. 🙂

[winged minnow]

if the gtx 1650 is entry level why are people getting mad for stopping support for the gtx 700 series and below

[cerulean rover]

Because people still own 700 series and below

[long forge]

I think mainly for gaming, like CSGO, dota2, running multiple charts for trading, mining and surf the web watch videos etc. so 12600 or 12900, I don’t want to think about changing PC for Atleast 5-7 years

[magic wing]

12600k fine for all that

[long forge]

Ok thanks! Should I spend the extra money on a better GPU lol

[heady turtle]

What gpu you planning?

[long forge]

3060ti, 3080 or 3080ti, thoughts?

[heady turtle]

Because basically with any 30 series GPU you'll be cpu bound in csgo, maybe not in dota but yeah

I'd grab 3060/3060 ti/3070/3070 ti

[long forge]

What do you mean cpu bound for CSGO

[heady turtle]

Like your cpu bottlenecked

Csgo is almost always cpu bottlenecked

[long forge]

Meaning like that’s the best it can go?

[heady turtle]

No, it means like with any semi modern gpu, you would need a better cpu that isn't out yet to get more fps

[heady turtle]

For multiple charts etc I'd go 12600k or 12700k depending on budget

[long forge]

Yeah I’m pretty sure the 12600 is more than enough for my needs, I’m always the type of guy to always want the higher end stuff thinking future proof and just the name etc. but I should be smarter with my money

[heady turtle]

Higher end used to kinda future proof but now there isn't a huge jump in the i5 to the i9, in gaming anyway

[livid idol]

The thing is, the 12600k seems to have future proofing in mind already being a 10c/16t processor. Gamers won't need all 12 of those p-core threads for a long time, even 6 used is pretty rare.

[long forge]

If the 12600 didn’t have an i5 on it I’m sure it’s performance could pass as i7 or i9

[livid idol]

It has passed an i7, both the 10700k and 11700k

[long forge]

just the i5 badge doesnt seem so appealing haha

[livid idol]

If you really feel you need to later, you can upgrade to a 13th gen i7/i9

Assuming they keep their usual 2 gens per socket

[long forge]

@livid idol great idea

[cerulean rover]

Everything can change once new game tech comes around thh

[long forge]

hopefully the other things will still be good enough and just the CPU would be upgraded

its true, its hard to keep up with technology

always newer and better things

[livid idol]

Zen3 refresh seems quite interesting, zen4 announcement early next year

[long forge]

yeah but i dont want to spend like 2-3k then 4-5 years later i gotta spend again lol

[livid idol]

There's 2 schools of thought on platforms, spend a lot and keep it for a long time or spend a little and upgrade more frequently

[long forge]

hmm i want to show you guys my specs, where would i find that and see what you guys think i should do

[livid idol]

You can make a pcpartpicker list

[heady turtle]

But when zen 3d come? Like January or something right?

[livid idol]

Around there yeah

Jan/Feb

[heady turtle]

Ughhh

Why not before Christmas :/

So rood

[livid idol]

Chip shortage

Delays all over like Steam Deck

[heady turtle]

Honestly tho don't know if i wanna put a zen3d on my b450m ds3h either lol

Yeah ik I'm just making a fuss lol

[livid idol]

That's why I invested in X470, pretty comparable to a good B550

[heady turtle]

Ik i bought when i was pc noob tho, i knew how to build but didn't really understand that i shouldn't just get any b450 :/

[livid idol]

You're probably fine until at least zen 4/5 with your cpu anyway

Unless you really want to get a rtx 4080

Supposed to be "double performance", at double the power draw and cost lol

[heady turtle]

Ik in finee but remember i play 1080p and fps shooters lol

And was thinking of downcycling so dad could move off the fx 6300

But yeah might wait for zen 4 and see

[knotty horizon]

I can’t wait to a 3090 is the equivalent of a gtx 570

In like 10years

[old nexus]

Poop

[knotty horizon]

Is there such a thing as a 3090 ti

[heady turtle]

There's leaks towards it

[livid idol]

It may exist soon. The leaks line up with what we've heard about them stopping production on older models, too. It makes sense to stop the old models to make room for the new.

[maiden prawn]

Aye, should hopefully keep them from shooting themselves in the foot too badly while everyone waits for the semiconductor shortage to level off, cos if they don't have the silicon, they can't push cards

(oh, and making a 1080p card that doesn't suck. that's a thing that would be nice too)

[heady turtle]

3060 doesn't suck

[gray bloom]

it does😂😂

kidding it doesnt works well with 1080p

and 1440p

[maiden lava]

is 12700k work well with sapphire 6900xt toxic ?

[livid idol]

More than enough, but you'll need a beast of a power supply. Probably 850-1000W

850W is probably fine if it's good quality

[maiden lava]

I have 1000W psu for 6900 xt

[livid idol]

Perfect, should be a good combo

If anything the GPU will hold back the CPU

[heady turtle]

Huh? 3060 is a top of the line "1080p card"

[livid idol]

I think that was a typo, meant 'does work well'

[heady turtle]

That would make mors sense yes

[gray bloom]

yea lol mb

didnt see it😂😂

technically 6900xt or 3090 are the top of the line which ever resolution it is😂😂

[livid idol]

Technically, but I've seen 3080ti beat 3090 in many things depending on models

[heady turtle]

Well yes but was specifically talking about 1080p marketed cards/cards you'd actually play 1080p on

[livid idol]

When I switched from 3090 to 3080ti I went from 19.5k score to 21k in time spy

[gray bloom]

i have 3080 for 1080p😗😗

im too lazy to upgrade my monitor

[heady turtle]

Tbf your 3090 was gimped of power

[livid idol]

True but the 80ti I got has the same limit lol

Lower even

[heady turtle]

https://tenor.com/view/report-gif-17984982

[gray bloom]

my monitor still going strong😂 with 3080

[heady turtle]

That's a very rare btw lol

[gray bloom]

well i have a 3060 before hand and i saw a 3080 and bought it

[livid idol]

"Hello, computer welfare? I'd like to report an abused system..."

[gray bloom]

so thats why i have a 1080p monitor

[livid idol]

There's a $280 in #tech-deals

[wide ingot]

Anyone know of a laptop GPU that's noticeably faster than a desktop RTX 2070... I may switch to a laptop only system. 3080 laptop perhaps? Depending on the wattage given to it too...

[gray bloom]

ah ill pass on getting monitor lol😂😂

bank account not happy atm

😂😂

[wide ingot]

😉

[livid idol]

Well, they'll only get cheaper with time when you do decide to switch

[gray bloom]

it’s hard to sell a monitor in my area rn plus i dont even have the box anymore for my monitor

im hoping for boxing day sale

[livid idol]

Mobile 3080 is roughly equal to desktop 2070, depending on power limit like you said

[livid idol]

Dual monitors are a thing, and a life changing thing at that

[gray bloom]

barely have any space for another monitor 😂😂 sadly

my desk is very small

[heady turtle]

I honestly wouldn't I'd wait til 40 series if you need laptop because you have to buy whole machine again it's way more expensive than gpu upgrade nvm desktop 2070 not laptop, definitely not a good idea unless you need portability

[gray bloom]

only good for one laptop

and a monitor

plus my pc😂😂

oh well im hoping i can change my set up by next month

rn budget lil tight after the 3080😂😂

[wide ingot]

That's true @heady turtle. I do need a laptop in the next couple of months, so maybe I'll just get the 30x refresh in Q1 and upgrade the desktop in Q3/4... could go AMD that time too perhaps.

[heady turtle]

Do you need a gaming laptop tho? Or would it just be like for work or something?

[wide ingot]

everything... but doesn't need to be the best on graphics. Just run games like Minecraft with shaders well enough for example.

[heady turtle]

Mine with it to make good chunk of money back on it

[heady turtle]

That's gonna heavily depends on the shader pack but a 1660 ti laptop (800$ or so) should run that perfectly

3080 laptops are like 2k+

[wide ingot]

Budget isn't much an issue, except for that last mile setup...

2K, fine, but from a 3080 to a 3080 ti laptop for $1k more? no thanks

[heady turtle]

There's no laptop 3080 ti

[wide ingot]

I know, it was a bad first example that came to mine.

😉

[heady turtle]

I see

Well honestly grab something like a 1660 ti-3060 laptop or something if all you'll be doing is playing Minecraft with shaders

That will run smooth as butter and be like over half the price

[wide ingot]

k, I'll take a look around, thanks!

[heady turtle]

Np

[gray bloom]

i prob should but i dont wanna ruin my gpu😂😂

[heady turtle]

Mining is less intensive than gaming

[livid idol]

If done properly, yeah. Uses less power, generates less heat.

[gray bloom]

i play like an hour or two with league of legend😗

any good ones then?

doesnt 3080 produce a lot of heat?

[long forge]

Alright guys here are my current PC specs
Intel i7-4930K 3.4ghz
DDR3 16 gb 1333 mhz
Asus Strix GTX 980
256gb SSD
Asus ROG motherboard
Seasonic 80 Plus gold 850W PSU

[gray bloom]

ah upgrade whole rig? keep the psu😂 if u have the money

[long forge]

are you talking to me lol? lol and the case is Corsair 100D i believe

do you think i can just upgrade the GPU and use this rig for mining only? and then build a new PC and use that for mining/gaming too?

[gray bloom]

well if ur mining to it sure u can keep the rest and upgrade its hard to get a gpu this day

and mining isnt as profitable when they lunch lhr model

@long forge

for me i would upgrade everything other than the case and ur psu is still good

thats just me i cant really decide for u

[long forge]

yeah there is some lhr models now

i just didnt know what to do with this pc didnt want to waste it

[gray bloom]

ah if u have a parent or like siblings

u could give it or u could sell it

[long forge]

my wife can use it and if i upgrade gpu she can use it and mine

[gray bloom]

oh i see well yeah u could do that and build a pc that can handle the games u wanna play and want to play in the future

if u just wanna play games u can always go for a console

[low glade]

can someone help me overclock my 3070ti asus rog strix

[long forge]

Yeah I never thought of just upgrading the GPU and using that as mining and build new pc for both mining and gaming so that’s two mining pcs 🙂 thanks for sparking some ideas

Well I don’t think I’ll be able to game much longer lol I have a 17 month old baby, who knows more come along the way lol, just want to game a bit more and really trying to make some side hustle for the babies diapers LOL

[low glade]

also im having recent issues where my computer sometimes wont boot up, and either i have to unplug the gpu and plug it back in, or i have red lights flashing from the ports where the vga cables go and unplug the vga cables back in. Is that an issue with my psu and can that be the reason why i cant stream on discord without crashing/freezing some of my applications or recently crashing on forza

[livid idol]

That's usually an indicator you need a bios update

[low glade]

wait actually

[gray bloom]

maybe two computer is too much if thats the case just stick with one computer if u guys have no time and just upgrade that whole pc

[low glade]

ive been dealing with this s^%t for like now a few months just absolutely dumbfounded with what is the issue

[livid idol]

Yes, if it powers on but doesn't post or anything until you drain the power that's the motherboard

[gray bloom]

so u can mine and do some gaming

[low glade]

then i did a power wattage calculator online and it says my whole setup uses arnd 620w

[livid idol]

Calculators are trash

[long forge]

Why mining takes a lot of time?

[low glade]

yea and the mobo shines a red light on the vga sign when it doesnt post

so fal'cie, should i download a bios update or go into bios? sorry if its a dumb question

[livid idol]

Yep sounds like the bios

[long forge]

Yes originally I was planning to build a new comp anyway since mine is getting old, then someone suggest I can try mining too with the new rig, but instead of just letting this pc sit here why not use it to mine too? 😊

[low glade]

omfg i was boutta buy a 850w psu and upgrade thinking that might be the issue

[livid idol]

Download the updated bios file and extract it to a flash drive, then you go into bios and flash it from there

[low glade]

yea im an idiot

ty

[gray bloom]

ah since u have a clear decision go for it lol im not stopping u 😂😂

do what u gotta do

[livid idol]

Nah not an idiot. Most people never touch the bios

[low glade]

broski i touched it once to enable the feature on ram, completely forgot the name of it

[livid idol]

XMP / DOCP

[low glade]

oh xmp, there we go, bro i havent did any research on pcs in a while

prolly a sign to get back into it

ty, imma let you know if that works

[long forge]

Yeah thanks I just wanted to know if my current pc would be possible to do that

[gray bloom]

yeah it is but depends on the gpu might bottleneck ur cpu though

[low glade]

Doing it rn, apparently my bios date is February of this year and the new one is October of this year

and apparently I didnt update my bios driver when I built my pc cause that was in may so pretty strange

And now as I’m booting up from my update, windows is doing repairs

And diagnosing my pc

[vital oriole]

let it do its thing

[low glade]

Yea I am

[low glade]

Also I feel your status

[vital oriole]

lol

yeah it hurts

[low glade]

legit it doesn’t stop crashing after like a certain amount of playing and I’m pretty sure it ain’t the problem with my pc

[vital oriole]

mine crashes before i even get to play

[low glade]

oh…

pc booted

Time to check if discord keeps crashing when I stream

[normal hawk]

Is it possible to by replacement screws for a GPU bracket?

The IO cover

Mounting bracket.

Why would the case have the screws for the GPU IO cover

e.e the silver plate around the HDMI and DP ports

Ty

[low glade]

it worked, tysfm

[livid idol]

Awesome! Happy to help

[knotty horizon]

Do you think my cpu bottlenecks my gpu

It’s a r7 3700x and a 1650super with 32gb of ram

I’m planning on upgrading in like 11months

But idk what to upgrade to due to the market instability

Maybe like a 3060ti

[glacial kelp]

Quick question for Canadians. Are 3060ti available close to MSRP?

A cousin is visiting in December, and I would like to ask him to buy me one, of course payment upfront.

[cerulean rover]

3060ti good

[cerulean rover]

No according to Hei

[glacial kelp]

Good GPU or good stocks? 😄 So no :/

Tf

[cerulean rover]

I mean 3060ti good upgrade for the other guy

[knotty horizon]

Do you think my pc is bottle necked

Look at the messages above

[cerulean rover]

Everything is bottlenecked by everything

Doesn't really matter

[knotty horizon]

For me?

[cerulean rover]

3060ti+3700x is good

[knotty horizon]

Ya I just cheated out on 1650super bcuz I wasn’t gonna pay 750$ for a 2070 or 1660 super

Which is CRAZY

[glacial kelp]

Anyone has any idea how the heck can I get a 3060ti/3070 to Romania close to MSRP?

I mean not MSRP, I understand it's past that.

But not 3 times the MSRP 😄

[clever pagoda]

Are graphics cards still near impossible to get? Haven't been here in a few months

[vital oriole]

Yes

[clever pagoda]

sad face

[heady turtle]

I'd say probs as bad as us, ie 400$ cad or so more than msrp, keep in mind if you were to bring it out of canada you'd technically have to pay import tax on it too afaik

[heady turtle]

Best bet is like Germany/Netherlands and shipping imo

[glacial kelp]

I have just checked some German websites, the only ones on stock are 3xmsrp 😄

[heady turtle]

Yeah you'd needa probably catch drops

[glacial kelp]

And since Xmas is closing, I doubt the stocks will be better 😄

Wasted gpu year.

Hopeless.

[keen nacelle]

3700x fine for a 3080 @1440p

[knotty horizon]

Idk how much I’ll dedicate to a gpu with my birthday gift

Cause I’ll get it for my birthday

So idk

[magic wing]

U have a gpu bottleneck if anything

[knotty horizon]

That’s what I meant

[knotty horizon]

That’s what I said my cpu is to good for my gpu

[magic wing]

No thats not what that means

Bottleneck means too bad

You said the exact opposite of what you meant

[knotty horizon]

Well do you at least know what I mean

[knotty horizon]

I see now

[glacial kelp]

787 euro for a Gainward GeForce RTX 3060 Ti Ghost LHR 8GB GDDR6 256-bit

Bad or terrible?

New from shop.

[fervent star]

that's pretty spendy imo

well maybe not super bad