graphics-cards

[compact panther]

buy a 6700 xt for $800

ez

[heady turtle]

it worked and not broke now

6600xt wouldbt be worth the hassle tbh

[keen nacelle]

Check r/hardwareswap, you can prolly find a straight trade to one

[heady turtle]

what

the 6700xt seller would have to be dumb

5700 and some cash maybe yeah

[keen nacelle]

Miners love the 5700/xt

And for a reference 6700xt

[heady turtle]

bruh

6700xt better at mining

[keen nacelle]

https://minerstat.com/hardware/amd-rx-5700-xt

https://minerstat.com/hardware/amd-rx-6700-xt

5700 can be flashed to 5700xt via bios no?

[heady turtle]

hmm

weird

but still

6700xt will have better resell value after the fact

That's odd tho

[hot folio]

5700xt better at mining than 6700xt for some reason

[keen nacelle]

its bc of things

[fervent star]

true

[solemn panther]

Mmm

[normal hawk]

https://www.pcgamesn.com/nvidia/RTX-3050-Ti-desktop-GPU-leak

90W 3050 e.e I want a LP card smh

[rustic pulsar]

Lmao who’s gonna buy that

Focus on making what they already have

[rustic pulsar]

It’s gonna be worse then 2060 perf

Or slightly better

[wary anvil]

And you have answered your own question

It's a low power card

[normal hawk]

^

Would be great for Tiny gaming PC's. As a console replacer sort of thing

[wary anvil]

Really nice thing is that there are almost definitely going to be models that don't need supplemental power connectors

[normal hawk]

Would be wonderful for those barebones kits.

Riser cable and boom. You could fit a modern PC in a GameCube case.

Right now you'd have to use an APU.

[wary anvil]

Also probably going to be nice for yields

The smaller the processor, the higher the yields get

[normal hawk]

Correction. Not a GameCube case. Smallest itx Mobo won't fit in one easily. The one i saw put a ASRock barebones kit in there which doesn't have a slot for a GPU.

But you could definitely put it in like an Xbox one S or Xbox 360 case.

[wary anvil]

Maybe

Mini ITX isn't the smallest in the ITX line

You're probably going to end up limited by the x16 connector

[normal hawk]

https://youtu.be/42-eq8MoDIo

Does Nano and smaller have a pcie x16?

Can't use a GPU without it.

[normal hawk]

I'll try to do something like this, but with a GPU if they make a LP 3050

[proven moss]

hello im back ,,so i the gpu from my friend that i was talking about and it works and im using currently ,but when i start a game it starts it up but about a min in ,it goes blank and makes a weird sound

@heady turtle

[mortal leaf]

cool

and danm that gpu is sus

[cerulean rover]

no signal on display or just black

[proven moss]

im using it right now its just when i start a game about a min later it goes blank not black just whatevr color the game is and makes a weird noise as if i stuck my finger to a aux cord in the car like a buzz sound

and i have to reboot my pc

@cerulean rover

[wary anvil]

Technically you can

[normal hawk]

Do you mean by running it through one of the m.2 to pcie converters?

[wary anvil]

Yup

Or even just plugging into an x8 or x4 slot

[proven moss]

hey bob are you able to help me with my gpu issue i sent you a dm

[wary anvil]

No clue

Verify the game files and if that doesn't work reinstall the GPU driver

[proven moss]

its my first gpu ive had and i just got the radeon drivers for it

[normal hawk]

Do they have an x8? O.o I haven't seen one

[wary anvil]

yup

[pliant monolith]

Anyone have a recommendation for a graphics card for blender... New requirements Graphics card with 1 GB RAM but prefer 4GB, OpenGL 3.3.

Kinda dont have money for the fancy ones out there xD

[vital oriole]

Those requirements are for only borderline running ngl

But what's your budget?

[normal hawk]

Can you help me find one? I can't find one for AMD or 10th/11th gen Intel.

[pliant monolith]

I really dont wanna go past 400 xD cheaper the better im being stingy i know 😄. And what ever gets me in and running. I use metasequoia more anyeay

[wary anvil]

They're a lot more common in server boards

[normal hawk]

Why would I wanna game on a server board though. 😬

[vital oriole]

400, well you're lookin at used

[wary anvil]

Lemme see if I can find one for standard consumer

[vital oriole]

A 1080 is possible

[wary anvil]

Because there's no major difference

[vital oriole]

Sometimes even a titan maxwell

But that's rarer

[normal hawk]

There are differences between cpu's that can be used. Server CPU's usually have more cores but lower clock speeds huh?

[wary anvil]

Some yes, others no

[normal hawk]

I mean, i know I'd be using a 3050 so i shouldn't really worry about a CPU bottleneck but still xP

[wary anvil]

Some server boards just use a plain old LGA1151 or am4 socket

[normal hawk]

True

[wary anvil]

I forgot something

pcie x8 is actually very common in consumer boards

https://www.newegg.com/msi-b450-tomahawk-max/p/N82E16813144267

For example, this one

[normal hawk]

Yeah.

I'm more of addressing tiny mobos. For a SFF build lol

[pliant monolith]

Thanks ill take a look!

[vital oriole]

But I think titan maxwell is eh compared to 1080

[normal hawk]

I don't need pcie x8 specifically. Mini ITX boards have x16 fairly often.

[vital oriole]

1080 is still a gen newer

[normal hawk]

It's just smaller than those that i don't usually see them.

[wary anvil]

Ya know, it might actually be kinda interesting to see an SXM socket for SFF builds

[normal hawk]

SXM?

[wary anvil]

It's a socket for GPUs

[normal hawk]

Ohhh

You mean like on the Mobo itself? Like what laptops have?

[wary anvil]

Kinda

Here's a water cooled rig with eight SXM cards

[normal hawk]

Oh wow

[wary anvil]

Only problem then being I don't know if SXM supports graphic outputs

I don't think it would

[normal hawk]

Ah. One day

[prisma cradle]

he still hassnt rep yet

seems to good to be true

[prisma cradle]

hello

found a 3060ti on an even suser site

https://cuonganhpc.vn/vga-galax-rtx-3060-ti-8gb-ex-black-1-click-oc.html

galax rtx ? good or no

i have never heard of that brand at all

[toxic sinew]

Galax is a legit brand, usually sold outside of the US

[prisma cradle]

on discount 900usd now only around 700

[toxic sinew]

MSRP is $400 USD

So quite overpriced

[prisma cradle]

in the condition that i have to buy it with an amd ryzen5 or above(or intel i5)

16g ram and a mobo

[prisma cradle]

yea but ill take what iget

other sites have 3060 for even more

this is on discount IF i follow the conditions

[normal hawk]

Also, they aren't in the US so of course it'll be priced a bit more due to taxes, and other things that the seller passes to the consumer

Look at GPU prices in places like Hungary lol

[prisma cradle]

the site sells amd 5600x for 300usd ?

good or nah ?

or i can go for 3500

and only the 3500

rest is to expensive or athlon

i actually miss read i have to go for i7 or above

or ryzen 5

cant go for i5 i guess

[normal hawk]

5600x for 300 USD is good

[prisma cradle]

yup

why did the sever go down

[normal hawk]

And tbh I'd consider the 3060 ti. I checked other countries and thats not a bad price when you don't just look at msrp

[prisma cradle]

yup

the site pretty sus

isnt near my place

[normal hawk]

in Hungary, the 3060 ti starts at 1k USD. so 700 USD is pretty good in general. As long as you'd risk it on the site

[prisma cradle]

it does say its an verified retailer site on nvidias 3060ti page

at least the nvidia vietnamese 3060ti page

[normal hawk]

thats pretty reassuring

[prisma cradle]

r5 3500 is half the price of 5600x

[normal hawk]

It also has half the threads

[vital oriole]

its perf is also

bleh

[normal hawk]

^ if you're going with the 3060 ti, i wouldn't go for anything less than a 3600 or 10400

[prisma cradle]

ok

cant get a 3600

there are non

[normal hawk]

5600x would last a while.

[prisma cradle]

i5 isnt listed have to go i7 or above

mobo?

asrock b550m ?

hdv

could play extra for asus prme b550m-k

oh wait

bruh

wrong chat

[normal hawk]

Nah you're all good.

[prisma cradle]

what mobo

which*

[normal hawk]

If you're not overclocking the ASRock one should be fine I think. 🤔 Not really familiar with that board.

[prisma cradle]

i mean asus one is like 10 more bucks

what are benifits ?

will i be really needing to overclock

[normal hawk]

No.

PBO is good enough.

Lemme check the Asus one really quick.

[prisma cradle]

Mainboard ASUS PRIME B550M-K Socket AM4

[normal hawk]

I'd spend the extra money for the asus

For upgradability.

[prisma cradle]

specifically what

[normal hawk]

4 ram slots instead of 2, 2 m.2 slots instead of 1.

[prisma cradle]

oh

1m.2 doesnt sound good

aight asus time

it is just 10 bucks could prob stop eating breakfast for 2 days

[normal hawk]

Don't put yourself in a financial struggle over a PC 🤔

[prisma cradle]

i mean just saying

comparing

[normal hawk]

Ah okie

[prisma cradle]

fine philosophy

RAM PC ADATA XPG GAMMIX D10 8GB (1x8GB) DDR4 3200MHz?

id buy 2

cause dual channie

50bucks each?

psu like u guys said bronzo is good enough so ill go for that

as long as its not gigabyte's

or else lybia will be in my house

[normal hawk]

How much is 3600mhz compared to the 3200mhz?

[prisma cradle]

there are non

[normal hawk]

Oh. :v sadness.

[prisma cradle]

at 16g anyways

[normal hawk]

Before you go through with all this, what's the I7 that's available?

[prisma cradle]

32 (16x2) there are 3600

[normal hawk]

Ah. Okie

[vivid arch]

i am unable to download the new driver 496.13 for nvidia and it's been saying preparing to install for awhile, hasn't done this before, and i recently downlaoded a windows update and i believe thats the main cause of all my issues on my computer, like it booting for a long time, and loading too long...

the performance did not hit this low before

gtx 1070 8GB
Update: the Update finished, but i got a "Something went wrong, Restart your pc then launch Geforce"

[prisma cradle]

https://cuonganhpc.vn/nguon-may-tinh-gigabyte-pb500-500w-80-plus-bronze.html dirt cheap

[vital oriole]

wouldn't be enough for 3060ti

[prisma cradle]

500watt psu ?

thats ok right ?

https://cuonganhpc.vn/nguon-may-tinh-cooler-master-mwe-500-bronze-v2-230v.html#

dis

[vital oriole]

no

[prisma cradle]

whi

[vital oriole]

500w isn't enough for that card with such consumption

a 650w is min

[prisma cradle]

3060ti

really

bruh

[vital oriole]

yeah

[prisma cradle]

BRO NO

they only have b550 asrock

im not going 1 m.2

X570 gigabyte

for 200usd

(god thats alot)

PSU PC Sama 700W 80 Plus Bronze?

will it turn into a He grenade when i put it in my pc ?

[vital oriole]

yes

[prisma cradle]

well frick

CoolerMaster Hyper 212 Spectrum?

good or nah

i spent alot on psu and mobo

wait

actually they dont say i need to buy a psu case and fans (cooler) from them

https://cuonganhpc.vn/nguon-may-tinh-cooler-master-mwe-650-bronze-v2.html

[vital oriole]

mwe bronze is fine i think

it's the v2

[honest hound]

Found another steal

No one in my area seems to like rog strix cards

[prisma cradle]

hello

it seems like I have been jbaited once again

the shop has ran out of the galaxy 3060tu

[prisma cradle]

wow lucky

wait 2000$?

that's alot

[honest hound]

Isnt msrp for that specific one 2100?

[prisma cradle]

really ?

i thought it was more around 15 hundo usd

[normal hawk]

2069$ I believe on newegg

[heady turtle]

Cuz they're overpriced

[heady turtle]

If it is asus is doing daylight robbery, 1500-1700 is about a reasonable price for a 3080 ti

And you can get good cards for that price, like evga ftw3 or asus tuf or msi gaming x trio etc

[normal hawk]

https://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails?ItemList=Combo.4336445

Ye 2069$

You can get the Gigabyte Gaming OC for 1475-1500 as well btw. I got mine for 1475$

[lone pond]

3060 lhr for 500 cad and a rx 580 4gb?

Is that a good deal or no

[normal hawk]

I'd say no

[heady turtle]

No if it was 3060 ti then it would be tho

[lone pond]

So did i scam myself

[honest hound]

Oh yea i forgot asus does that, its literally a few hundred away from their 3090. Might as well get it

[normal hawk]

Well they will probably sell the 580 4gb for like 300$ so you basically paid 800 cad for a 3060

[lone pond]

He showed me the reciept

[heady turtle]

Well if you were selling the 3060, no that's great, if you were buying yeah

[lone pond]

Total was like 7 something

I jus wanted to upgrade cards honestly

[normal hawk]

ah

[honest hound]

What would my 3070 be worth? Its been used for around 3-4 weeks now

[normal hawk]

Why are you trying to sell it already? lol

[honest hound]

For a 3080ti or 3090

Dosent meet my demands

[prisma cradle]

tuff man, out here trying to get a 3060 to be happy

how u gonna do it doe

[honest hound]

3060’s are going for $600

Gpu’s are kinda cheap in my area considering the market

[prisma cradle]

i dont live where u live

where u live

i will comence to moving there

unless its brazil

[honest hound]

Seattle. City full of foreign exchange students that are into gaming pc’s

[prisma cradle]

aight time to find a vietnamese exchange to canada

[honest hound]

We also get a lot of best buy restocks including surrounding towns

[prisma cradle]

wow

[honest hound]

If you wait in line for a few hours you’re guaranteed a 30 series and any left overs from the restock just go on the shelves but sell out fast still

Usually a day later

[prisma cradle]

i wont expect people to knife fight eachother for a gpu there, heck even the netherlands kill people for a gpu

nedorlunds

[honest hound]

Yea idk why my town actually has a decent supply of 30 series

[prisma cradle]

welp back to flaming shadow realm i go trying to find a 3060ti or a 3070 without selling my limbs for it

[honest hound]

Good luck

[heady turtle]

Ehh I'd say you could go 3070 +1.2k cad mb?

[normal hawk]

Woah Pato

[heady turtle]

from shops not ppl right?

[heady turtle]

Well i mean it's cad and 3080 tis way more than they should be

[honest hound]

I lied, this just broke the $600 record

This is usd

[heady turtle]

That's a kinda sketch price imo lol

[honest hound]

Too good to be true eh?

Iforgot i have to hurry up and buy a 3080ti or 3090 before the container ship crisis shows

[normal hawk]

I hate how Best buy does open boxes

[prisma cradle]

aight yea im at the canadian embassy rn

[normal hawk]

So this is whats upsetting

Looking at Open Boxes on their website and I see this

tells me I can order it now and ship it here

but when I select it I get sent to this page

Like, if you aren't gonna let me order it, don't show it to me

[prisma cradle]

bruh

[normal hawk]

I can't click on the open box thing

it doesn't load a page

[heady turtle]

[prisma cradle]

hello guys

its your boi cant find a gpu

https://hoanglongcomputer.vn/core-i5-10400f-ram-16g-rtx-3060-12g-nve-250g?fbclid=IwAR3BCiR9cLJhaABCAFRj-PZnLj1VoIL84HJI_yscf0yeZavL2LVF6-Z7KfI

found this prebuilt

i negotiated the seller to swap the 3060 out for a 3060ti the price is similar to the built i made far far above

but i get an i5 instead of a ryzen 5600x

[vital oriole]

the mobo will limit the ram lol

the i5 only runs the ran at 2666mhz max with b460

the psu is like

d tier i think, the antec atom

[prisma cradle]

4 slots

2 ssd

im trying to tell them to swap to this case

https://hoanglongcomputer.vn/vo-case-kenoo-esport-g562-black-mid-tower-mau-den

front mesh (i have learned) and matx

or i could go for this one

https://hoanglongcomputer.vn/case-vo-may-tinh-xigmatek-gaming-x-3fx-en46188-gaming-atx-kem-03-fan-xigmatek-x20argb

more big chungus for same price

*not same but 2 snickers bar worth

bigger case better airflow ?

[dreamy dragon]

ChiklisZhathZ#5229 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

[prisma cradle]

wo wo wo there buddy

[heady turtle]

So?

[prisma cradle]

i am family friendly

[proven moss]

Hey @heady turtle are you available?

[prisma cradle]

idk 64gb only or smth ?

whats bad about the mobo here

[heady turtle]

Shoot

[heady turtle]

Locks the ram speed to 2666mhz

[prisma cradle]

oh

well i mean

can i not lock

[proven moss]

Are you able to shoot me a dm ,me and roomy had a conversation last night idk if he has told you

[heady turtle]

Then it wouldn't be locked would it ;-;

[prisma cradle]

if i wanto upgrade i will combo ram+cpu

[heady turtle]

Sure

[prisma cradle]

so might aswell put a new mobo in

[heady turtle]

Nah 16gb ram and 10400 good for 3060 ti, if you were to upgrade I'd do motherboard and see if they can stick in some 3200mhz ram instead of 3000mhz mb

[prisma cradle]

can i get away with like 2666 ?

like how much will the prefromance decay

[heady turtle]

I mean yeah but it's a noticeable drop in perf

@prisma cradle https://youtu.be/csFwlKgZCzM

[prisma cradle]

judging my the thumbnail i can tell what is going on

[heady turtle]

Basically it becomes a 6 core ryzen 3 3300x

[prisma cradle]

https://hoanglongcomputer.vn/tim?scat_id=&q=mainboard

have any recomendo from this ?

https://hoanglongcomputer.vn/mainboard-biostar-b560mx-e-pro

this one looks good

[heady turtle]

Just any b560/h570, anything but biostar

@prisma cradle id get this one https://hoanglongcomputer.vn/mainboard-asrock-b560m-pro4-intel-b560-socket-1200-m-atx-4-khe-ram-ddr4

[prisma cradle]

thats alot of money

ram doesn't cap 2666 right ?

[heady turtle]

Is it

[prisma cradle]

kinda yea it looks expensive

wait

how many m.2?

slots

[heady turtle]

What's that roughly convert to in eur/usd?

[prisma cradle]

about

120usd

https://hoanglongcomputer.vn/mainboard-msi-b460m-pro-vdh-wifi-intel-b460-socket-1200-m-atx-4-khe-ram-ddr4

wb this ?

[heady turtle]

That's exactly how much it would be in America yeah

B460

Ram locks at 2666

If you wanna get a slightly cheaper board https://hoanglongcomputer.vn/mainboard-msi-b560m-a-pro but I'd get the asrock pro4 instead

120$ conveeted is the right price

[prisma cradle]

but m.2

[dreamy dragon]

!♛!-Miraç YBS#2087 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

[prisma cradle]

2666?

that sucks

[heady turtle]

Yes

[heady turtle]

This one has 2 m.2 slots, 1 is disabled with 10th gen chips tho

[heady turtle]

This one has 1 m.2

But they both have same m.2 expansion in practice

[prisma cradle]

like the super smoll one ?

ssd?

whats bad about biostar

like it cant be that bad

[heady turtle]

Wdym the super small one? They're both the same size

[prisma cradle]

oh really

[heady turtle]

They cant make bios's for crap

[prisma cradle]

i mean im fine with stock boot bios

[heady turtle]

Also idk how good their vrms are either

[heady turtle]

What?

[prisma cradle]

the blue white bios

the super old kind that are found in super old laptops

[prisma cradle]

but this

[heady turtle]

Nah it's just bad, and afail their vrms aren't very good either

[prisma cradle]

not gamer

[heady turtle]

They just not very good company lol

[prisma cradle]

aight

[keen nacelle]

Sata ssds really aren't that much slower than nvme drives. You won't notice a huge difference

[prisma cradle]

the mb with a disabled slot then

[prisma cradle]

yea but still

2 m.2

more spuace in general

[heady turtle]

What no?

[prisma cradle]

What

Like :v more storage ? No? Ok

Maybe not

[heady turtle]

No

Sata ssds are sometimes cheaper, nvme ssds are sometimes cheaper

[prisma cradle]

Remember the detail that i already had an ssd

[prisma cradle]

Wut

Uh i guess yes diabled mb

[heady turtle]

Exactly what i said lol

[prisma cradle]

Less go wid dat

[heady turtle]

What

[prisma cradle]

You need to EXPLAIN

[heady turtle]

So?

[prisma cradle]

The one with a disabled 10gen slot or smth

[prisma cradle]

Idk might be importo to this

[heady turtle]

Yeah 1/2 is disabled

[prisma cradle]

So like i can still put my ssd in right

[vital oriole]

yep

[prisma cradle]

And it would (hopefully) work fine

[vital oriole]

only the slot that's pcie 3.0 works

[prisma cradle]

With some speed being eaten

[vital oriole]

cause 10th gen has no pcie 4.0

no the speed won't drop

[prisma cradle]

Wait so let me get it right

[heady turtle]

Just put it in the bottom m.2 slot

And it work

[prisma cradle]

2 m.2 slots

1 is pcie gen 4 ?

And one is handicapped?

[vital oriole]

no

the pcie 4.0 slot won't work

so that means only one works

[prisma cradle]

What

[vital oriole]

so it's 1/2

[prisma cradle]

So basically i only have 1 slot

[vital oriole]

yep

[prisma cradle]

How do i enable it then

Like just no?

[vital oriole]

get 11th gen

that's the only way to enable all

[prisma cradle]

Frick

I3 11th

Il go to sleep

I guess i will go for 11th gen

[vital oriole]

i3 has no 11th gen

[prisma cradle]

Pc would be around 32mil vnd

[prisma cradle]

Thats what the emoji for

[heady turtle]

Technically it do but basically 10100

[vital oriole]

10105

[prisma cradle]

32mil vnd is 1.405,23

Usd

Thats pretty baller

[heady turtle]

Damm mans is multimillionaire

Rommy

I am

Are you?

Good good

[proven moss]

Yes

Yeah we’re working on it now

I appreciate all you for helping me on this I’ve met some great people from it ,appreciate y’all

[heady turtle]

You're welcome welcome :>

[proven moss]

Now once we get these amd drivers installed we put our fingers together and hope for the best ,is there anything else I need to do once I get the amd one downloaded

[heady turtle]

Ehh I'd restart the pc one last time just incase, then pray

[proven moss]

I was just admiring how beautiful those gpus were on Rommys profile 😂

[heady turtle]

Meow

[shrewd sierra]

i need a better grafigscard for 1080p, but dont know what to get. I have a 1660 super oc from msi it can boost to 1905 mhz. pls help

[proven moss]

Meow meow,now I’m admiring the black kitty

And yeah the 1660 is really good that’s my next card if I can’t get this one to work

[shrewd sierra]

ok thank you

[proven moss]

@sterile parcel @heady turtle drivers are done downloading and they are up to date ,is it time to test it out ?

[heady turtle]

What's your upgrade budget? But I'd keep the 1660 super because nows not a very good time to buy

[heady turtle]

Give it a shot 🤞🤞

[shrewd sierra]

about 700 euro

[rustic pulsar]

U could prolly get a 3060 ti for that if u tried

6600xt great for 1080p

[heady turtle]

You could get a 3060 ti or 3070 or 6700xt/6800, i wouldn't bother spending 700 on anything else

3060/6600xt for 500 or less

@shrewd sierra also what power supply do you have?

[shrewd sierra]

750 watt

80+ gold

[heady turtle]

Yeah but what 750w 80+ gold, 80+ gold means nothing in terms of quality

Nah 700 3070 ez pz

[shrewd sierra]

corsair rm 750

[heady turtle]

Ahh good psu

[proven moss]

Welp grey screen and buzz

[heady turtle]

Well then you could get a 3060 ti or 3070 or 6700xt/6800, i wouldn't bother spending 700 on anything else or 3060/6600xt for 500 or less

[shrewd sierra]

ok thanks

[heady turtle]

Damm, ehhhh lets try underclocking i guess

Really?

It's a 480 tho

[proven moss]

Alright u will have to walk me thru that

[heady turtle]

@proven moss was it basically instant crash?

Aye aye

[proven moss]

It’s a rx 580 and it loaded the game but about a min in it went grey screened

[heady turtle]

Ohh

[heady turtle]

Yes yes

@proven moss did it go straight away or after a few seconds?

Nvm you already answered

I'm blind

[proven moss]

I had to restart my pc after it greyed

[heady turtle]

@proven moss could you send more angles of that gpu

[proven moss]

The pcb or the gpu it self cause I put the shield back on last night

Yes

Yeah it’s only when I start a game it crashes

Do we have anything else to try ?

I think it just may be a dead gpu ☹️

I’ll just be playing on my 30fps icpu ,if it’s not fixable 😎 cause gpus are like way to much

[dreamy dragon]

Fateh#5645 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

[proven moss]

HOLD UP there’s a switch on the gpu I just flipped it and I’m going to try that I watched a video on it

@sterile parcel @heady turtle

[heady turtle]

What switch?

[proven moss]

A little black switch i watched a video on rx 580 grey screen and that’s what he said

[heady turtle]

Maybe

[proven moss]

It didt work

I think it’s just a bad gpu

☹️

[brave violet]

What about doing a fresh intall of the drivers from AMD

using DDU to really clean everything

[heady turtle]

Think so

[heady turtle]

Just did that

[proven moss]

Yep so I guess I’ll be playing my 30fps icpu ☹️

[brave violet]

Dang Pato, you're everywhere. Dang

[heady turtle]

X)

[proven moss]

So what do I do with this gpu

[brave violet]

Maybe sell it for parts. Some people do fix them or sell them for parts. Or cry as Pato said.

[heady turtle]

Cry

[proven moss]

😭😭😭😭😭😭😭

[brave violet]

https://tenor.com/view/damn-you-skeletor-gif-11747628

[heady turtle]

You can try this yeah might get 50$ for it @proven moss

[proven moss]

Is there anywhere I can get a gpu for something good at a good price cause I am down bad with this pc

[brave violet]

Maybe get a gtx 900s or 1000s series. Or get lucky on the shuffle or BB drops

[proven moss]

Cause I can’t even play some over 35fps it’s bad

[compact panther]

how much money you have

and how much time and effort you wanna spend

[proven moss]

I got about 200$ to put towards one and I’m willing to do whatever to get my pc up on its feet

[brave violet]

3060 maybe =/

[heady turtle]

In what world

[heady turtle]

Might be able to find a gtx 970

[shrewd sierra]

maybe you could go on ebay and get a 780 ti

[brave violet]

well in BB drop a evga 3060 is 489. So, only 200+ that he's short.

[proven moss]

ill search around and see what i can get ,i hate having a budget build but i wish id just got a pre built at this point cause ive messed up by building one in 2021

[heady turtle]

That would be a fat downgrade

[heady turtle]

Only short 300$ lol

[proven moss]

would i even be able to use a 3060 cause i see pcie ports are like 20 pin lol

[heady turtle]

Yea you would if your psu is good enough, it's 2 x 8 pcie pins

[proven moss]

yeah i have 2 8 pins

i just seen a vid on youtube this dude actaully setted up a gofund me for a new gpu cause his got fried

[shrewd sierra]

is 873 euro bad for 3060

ok

[heady turtle]

Very

[shrewd sierra]

its an rog strix... shouldi buy it

[magic wing]

unless it magically became a 3080/3070 its not worth it

[shrewd sierra]

ok

[cerulean rover]

800+ euro is scalped 3070 territory tbh

[magic wing]

yeah but more reasonable than a 3060

not even a 3060ti

[cerulean rover]

Ye

I'm saying you should get a scalped 3070 for that kinda price

[shrewd sierra]

ok

what about 537 euro for rog strix 3060

[heady turtle]

Bit on the pricier side but why you want a rog strix, like you can find 3060 tis or 3070s for that price, or cheaper 3060s

[proven moss]

pato did i ever tell you my genius i idea i did a few weeks ago ?

[heady turtle]

Nope

[proven moss]

so my icpu came with a bad fan like so tiny well it overheated one day while i was in the middle of a game and it made me mad so i re did the thermal paste and put the fan back on ,and i came up with a idea i took a case fan and some string and hung the case fan over my cpu fan yay

[cerulean rover]

Tbh won't find a 3070 for 530 euros but might be able to get a cheapish aib 3060ti

[proven moss]

budget build 101

[shrewd sierra]

3060 ti gaming x trio for 537 euro

[cerulean rover]

I mean, most of the time, CPU cooler fans will be same fans as your case fans

[cerulean rover]

Much better deal than the 3060

[shrewd sierra]

ok thank you

[shrewd sierra]

enginering

[proven moss]

yesssssirrrrrrrrr

making big moves

[heady turtle]

Just buy a better cooleer....

[proven moss]

i knoww im just trying to save for a gpu

[heady turtle]

Well they have budget of 700 so they can find around that price

[cerulean rover]

~20$ se-224-xt/vetroo v5/gammaxx 400

[heady turtle]

Well wow if that's actually in stock, if it's not ignore it, just get the cheapest model of 3060 ti/3070 you can find in stock at the time that's not msi ventus 2x, the 3x is okay tho

[cerulean rover]

Ventus 3x is fine >:p
But yea ventus 2x still sucks

[heady turtle]

25-30 but yeah

[proven moss]

someone told me about ,if u have a bad pc theres something like cloud gaming ?

[heady turtle]

Yeah true

[cerulean rover]

Se-224-xt was on sale for a while

[cerulean rover]

Latency sucks if you want to play fps games

Extra 10-15ms doesn't sound like much but it really hurts in fps games

It'll be just fine in more chill pve games like Warframe, but anything that needs fast reactions, won't be great

[proven moss]

my download speed is 50 and upload is like 18 ,but i think thats trash

[cerulean rover]

It's fine, just need it to be very stable and low latency

[shrewd sierra]

it is in stock

[heady turtle]

You only need roughly 10up/10fown

[cerulean rover]

Depends tbh

[proven moss]

how much is cloud gaming

[cerulean rover]

I say 30/10 minimum

[velvet grail]

Helo
I wanted to know if is there a GPU backplate cover for my1070 that doesn't have one and seeing the PCB is... Orrible...
Can I build my own? (I don't think)
And if yes how much would it cost?

[heady turtle]

That's great then, instant buy

[cerulean rover]

Depends on the service, GeForce now can be free with a few caveats

[heady turtle]

Can be*

[cerulean rover]

But anyways I've tried GeForce now on 10/10 wifi, it's not a fun time at all

Even with lowest bandwidth requirement settings

[heady turtle]

I mean technically you could just lie a bit of metal with thermal pads and lay it on top but ehhh

[cerulean rover]

But that's my experience.

[heady turtle]

Fair nough

Probs cuz recieving more stuff than normal, native games you can do 10/10 not great but fine

[cerulean rover]

Backplates don't really matter much other than maybe to help transfer heat

[velvet grail]

But it's all "wires" (sorry I don't know how to call them) and If I put metal on top it will just die
Right?

[cerulean rover]

I mean you're practically downloading the video of the game playing on the cloud service, so that's where the need for download speeds come from

[heady turtle]

Think they want it for looks :c

[proven moss]

i just wish i got a prebuilt instead of building one

[heady turtle]

Yeye kinda forgot bout that aspect

[cerulean rover]

Sadly half the prebuilts don't deliver the main part they're supposed to deliver, a working PC :p

[heady turtle]

https://tenor.com/view/michael-scott-creasing-forehead-the-office-office-absolutely-gif-11888908

[proven moss]

id just buy one and take the cpu and gpu out its what my buddy did

[velvet grail]

Mmh

[shrewd sierra]

wow just orderd... i got my money back and it got canceld

[cerulean rover]

Sounds like too much work

[heady turtle]

Anyway it's really not worth your effort

[heady turtle]

Well, where did you order from??

[cerulean rover]

It was too good of a deal for other people to miss :p

They prob sold out

[velvet grail]

I saw a website where you can design your own GPU backplate but it is 120$

[shrewd sierra]

elgiganten its a store in denmark

[heady turtle]

They're legit yeah?

[heady turtle]

https://tenor.com/view/kevin-hart-i-would-rather-die-jumanji-jumanji-welcome-to-the-jungle-no-thank-you-gif-9846308

[velvet grail]

Ye

Mmmmmmmh

[shrewd sierra]

yeah they are pretty legit. everybody buy from them

[magic wing]

gpu backplates do next to nothing unless ur gpu has vram modules on the back

[heady turtle]

Thing is metal ones will dissepate heat, acrylic will trap the heat, hotter than without backplate

[heady turtle]

No

[velvet grail]

Just for design

[velvet grail]

I know

[heady turtle]

You can disepate heat from the back of the ram chips

[magic wing]

ah right

[velvet grail]

Can I use a 2mm aluminium sheet?

[magic wing]

i forgor

cool the pcb itself

but still doesnt do a whole lot

[heady turtle]

On a 1070 not much, on a g6/x gpu yeah it does a good bit

Not needed but helps

My backplate is warm to the touch

So that's good

Means working

[velvet grail]

Btw I want the backplate only for the design
For the new build... But it is not necessary

So... Can I make my own for a few bucks?
Or it's risky?

[heady turtle]

Should be fine making your own look up a video tutorial or something

[velvet grail]

Mmmh

[cosmic bluff]

for backplates i prefer V1Tech but its in america

[velvet grail]

https://youtu.be/MBwfBCW9qZU
😍
I want to do this

[normal hawk]

I've been using xcloud on my phone a little. For rpg's and such on wifi it works fairly well

[proven moss]

i just hooked the gpu up again and did some tweaking with it ,i stressed tested it and it didt fail ,is that good ?

[velvet grail]

Will an acrylic backplate "melt" under 80°C?

No right?

will it give me worse temperatures?

If yes, how bad?

Lol

Other and last thing
Can I undervolt my GPU that is already factory overclocked at 1.9GHz and overclock it more

So that I get lower temps

[heady turtle]

GOOGLE EARTH VR

[velvet grail]

Okk

[fervent star]

Google Earth has vr? that's dope

is it on the quest 2

[heady turtle]

yes, hard to tell how much worse

[velvet grail]

? Can I get my PNY xlr8 1070 to 1.98-2.1 GHz? ⚡

[heady turtle]

ofc

[velvet grail]

And undervolt it

[heady turtle]

idk try overclocking it

[velvet grail]

Because it is factory overclocked at 1.88GHz

[heady turtle]

if you can stabily overclock it to that, theres a decent chance you can at least uv it a bit

[velvet grail]

Will my temps drop ?

5°C?

10°C?

@heady turtle

🦆 🇪🇸

Helo?

@heady turtle ur alive?

[heady turtle]

jeez i was talking in a different channel

[velvet grail]

Oh sorry

[heady turtle]

if you undervolt yes but if you overclock and undervolt they might drop/stay the same depending on how much you can oc and uv

[velvet grail]

Usually how many degrees you loose by just undervolting a bit?

[heady turtle]

Depends

[velvet grail]

Mmh...I'll check tomorrow
Good night (for me)

[heady turtle]

night

[proven moss]

I got another driver update out of no where I’m updating it hope it works lol

[heady turtle]

Good luck but u doubt it

[normal hawk]

Is it dangerous to leave a computer mining for 9 days?

It's a 5700 XT. Runs at around 60°C the whole time.

[fervent star]

I heard ur supposed to shut windows down and restart it every day or 2 but idk how mining works

[normal hawk]

🤔

[fervent star]

don't take my word wait for someone that knows more 😂

[rustic pulsar]

According to Fal'Cie if temps are fine no need, only when doing cleaning

[normal hawk]

Sweet. Ty

[heady turtle]

nah

[heady turtle]

thats a bit hot for mining imo but i suppose depends what fan speed youre running at

[heady turtle]

thats just good practice for best perf etc

[heady turtle]

[keen nacelle]

As long as your temps are fine nah

[proven moss]

so i found a gtx 1050ti for 230 plus shipping about 15 ,is that good or too much ?

[prisma cradle]

inflation is key to being a millionaire

The only 11th gen have is an i5 11400

Worth it right

[keen nacelle]

bad

they shouldnt cost over 200

[autumn crest]

does newegg shuffle add a tax to the gpu?

like if its msrp is 679 it might be 726, or something but with a gpu?

[solemn panther]

Yes

[autumn crest]

ok

[solemn panther]

Ive won twice before...can't escape the taxes

[fervent star]

tax evasion

[green harness]

Well a few places don't have sales tax

[sage sparrow]

is rog strix b550 f alright with r5 5600x

[normal hawk]

https://www.newegg.com/p/2WC-000C-06H46

What's with these laptops these days smh.

Good CPU, 32gbs of ram, but they decided the 3050 ti was good enough?

Like what? Give me 16gbs of ram and more storage if you're gonna bottleneck me with 4gb vram. That 32gbs of ram doesn't help with gaming at all 😭

Also, keep in mind that the 1399 price is on sale...almost 500$ off lol. Imagine paying nearly 2k for a 3050 ti 🤔

[magic wing]

flight sim uses 50+ gb ram on dallas pc

[normal hawk]

It's a 3050 ti that has 4gbs of vram....

[magic wing]

im just saying many games can use 32 gigs of ram

doesnt help at all isnt true

doesnt help in THAT SYSTEM might be

[normal hawk]

I'm saying it doesn't help because I'm bottlenecked by the 4gbs of vram

" if you're gonna bottleneck me with 4gb vram"

[magic wing]

I mean you can still run modded games like skyrim on 4gb vram and have them take more than 16gigs of ram

[normal hawk]

And I'm a huge supporter of people just going for 32gb of ram now if it's within budget. But this build is the wrong move lol

I play heavily modded and I've never gone over like 10gbs of ram.

16gbs of ram is enough for SE.

[magic wing]

then you dont play heavily modded

people go over 32gb on heavily modded skyrim

[normal hawk]

My mod folder is bigger than the game itself 🤔

[magic wing]

so?

the mods themselves matter not the size

lol

[normal hawk]

True

[heady turtle]

That's how all prices in the us work

[heady turtle]

Yes, I'd prefer an msi gaming edge WiFi instead but rog strix is decent

[ivory pasture]

Guys I need to know what graphic card will be the best for ryzen 9500x. AMD or Nvidia? And which model

[velvet grail]

@heady turtle started my project for the GPU backplate 👍
And it will cost me just ~20€

[heady turtle]

Good luck

[heady turtle]

Depends on your budget and what you want it for

[magic wing]

yeah best of luck

[velvet grail]

Ty

Which part of the GPU is the hottest because I should make some holes on the backplate

Is it like this?

[heady turtle]

I'd leave around the red sqaure completely empty, rest should be fine

[velvet grail]

The red part corresponds to VRM and chip?

[velvet grail]

Wait, I want to make a drawing so you will tell me if it will work well

[heady turtle]

Can't tell exactly cuz on mobile but it's back of the actual gpu basically

[magic wing]

are the main parts

you want a pad bridging that and the back plate

[velvet grail]

It's ok if I put the thermal pads here? Because the backplate is made of polycarbonate
I know that It has a melting point of around 200°C but will it bend over time...?

[heady turtle]

How well does acrylic transfer heat tho?

[velvet grail]

I think temperatures like 70-75° will make the polycarbonate bend over time
Right?

[magic wing]

oh acrylic

[heady turtle]

Shouldn't get near bending point

[magic wing]

nvm

it doesnt

[velvet grail]

Mmh... Over the GPU there is the CPU cooler that will absorb some of the heat

[heady turtle]

What

[heady turtle]

There's not really much point in putting thermal pads, before you're using acrylic right?

[velvet grail]

The cooler is near the GPU
Will it help with the heat produced?

[heady turtle]

Ohh, no lol

Won't make a diff

[velvet grail]

Acrylic and polycarbonate are similar

[velvet grail]

Oh... But temperatures won't be much worse..?

Until there are some holes on the backplte

[heady turtle]

Can't tell you had bad it's gonna be, never tried it but having it next to the cpu cooler doesn't do anything as all gpus are under the cpu cooler anyway

[velvet grail]

Oh

I thought the fans will move away some heat...
No problem

[heady turtle]

Nah your case fans will a bit

[velvet grail]

Some fancy holes on the chip
Should they be bigger, covering a bigger area?

[magic wing]

yeah no point in thermal pads on acrylic

[velvet grail]

Ok

[velvet grail]

Not a perfect drawing of my GPU

[heady turtle]

That looks decent yeah

[velvet grail]

So maybe 0.5-1°C less

It will do a lot right?

I'm gonna make the project on AutoCAD and then cut the polycarbonate with a laser

I'm gonna make the backplate RGB too
https://youtu.be/MBwfBCW9qZU
Idea

[heady turtle]

You have a laser handy?

[velvet grail]

I know someone that has a machine that can cut "everything" with a laser

And I think he can cut the polycarbonate for just 2-3 bucks

[heady turtle]

nice

[velvet grail]

What the hecc I just found 😂

[solemn pumice]

I have a spare rtx 3070

Diese anybody need one

Does

[magic wing]

temps will be a little more

not less

[velvet grail]

Yes I know

But I don't think much worse

I'm also going to change to a case wit much more airflow so maybe my GPU temps will stay the same

[velvet grail]

Should I cover 3 sides of my GPU? Or just the back?

[heady turtle]

Just the back

Covering sides bad for airflow

[velvet grail]

If I cover all sides will my GPU get too hot?

[heady turtle]

Heat supposed to escape around sides

[velvet grail]

Oh okke

[magic wing]

goes up and to the sides

and back

[velvet grail]

I always feel lot of heat coming from the zone where the outputs are

But I think that covering sides will give me very bad temps

[velvet grail]

Opinion?

Maybe the I should center the "GTX"

[heady turtle]

I'd move the gtx and 1070 over slightly so not right on the edge

[velvet grail]

The problem is the coole

R

[heady turtle]

The cpu cooler?

[velvet grail]

It covers a big area of the GPU

[velvet grail]

Yes

[heady turtle]

Ahh

[velvet grail]

See?

I should still move the GTX to the left

[dreamy dragon]

LoFabio#1212 has been warned

Reason: Duplicated text

[velvet grail]

Or I put the GPU on the 2nd slot

[magic wing]

nah

top slot is 16x

bottom looks like its 8x

[velvet grail]

Wait

16x
?

The top is 4.0
And gtx 1070 only supports 3.0

[magic wing]

thats pcie generation

not lanes

[velvet grail]

They're both 16x

[magic wing]

what board exactly

[velvet grail]

8x is half of 16x

MSI B550 gaming plus

[magic wing]

good math

[velvet grail]

Isn't only about the dimensions

?

[magic wing]

its not a dimension

its the number of connections

in the slot

[toxic sinew]

You can have a x16 physical slot but only a x8 connection

[velvet grail]

Oh

I'm gonna check

[magic wing]

thats what ur mobo manual says

its a 4x slot

[velvet grail]

It says 2* PCIe 16x

And no 8x

[magic wing]

do NOT put ur gpu there

[velvet grail]

W h y

[magic wing]

this is a screenshot from the mobo manual for the mobo u said you have

[velvet grail]

The second is 16x 3.0

What

Oh

From MSI.com

[magic wing]

the manual is also from their website

[velvet grail]

Btw the GPU on the 2nd slot is near to the PSU
It might get worse temps

Maybe?

[magic wing]

and either way the second slot is routed through the chipset while top slot is connected directly to the cpu

[magic wing]

is ur psu fan pointing up?

also what case

[velvet grail]

I have to choose a new PSU so...

Idk

[magic wing]

can you look at if its pointing up rn

[velvet grail]

Montech air 900 mesh

[magic wing]

yeah in that case you should have psu fan pointing down anyway

so no its not problem

[velvet grail]

But I have to put the GPU on the 1st slot?

[magic wing]

it is advised

yes

[velvet grail]

Okk

Ty

[magic wing]

if you care about temps that much use aluminium or just let it be as is tbh

[velvet grail]

I'll use polycarbonate because alluminium is conductive and if it touch a component... ⚡

I don't want to Kill a 1070

I'm going to finish the project
Byee

[real gulch]

k

[autumn crest]

i mean, you can, just not for long 😦

[heady turtle]

This looks amazing 😍 https://youtu.be/J1L1-IESF1M

[keen nacelle]

Apparently there's rumors of a re released 2060 12gb, 3070 ti 16gb, and 3080 12gb

Idk how reliable they are but it'd be weird imo

And if they do 3080 10gb would be discontinued as well, according to the same rumors

Didn't say whether or not the 3070 ti 8gb would be

[heady turtle]

2060 where a while ago doesn't seem to be happening, idk about the others

[livid idol]

But wait
If there's a 16gb model does that mean some of the back of the card will have memory? That makes no sense

[heady turtle]

I mean i don't see why they cant?

[livid idol]

It would mean they'd have to make a new cooler design, the existing ones don't even have passive cooling on the back

Since so far only 3090s have rear memory, only they tend to have backplate cooling

[heady turtle]

I mean they could just give it 3090 pcb design

[livid idol]

If only it were that simple
The 3090 has a much larger die, and a lot more power stages than a 3070

I think the simplest solution would be to use denser memory modules so they all still fit in the front, but then that'll be much hotter too

[compact panther]

how do you

put 16GB

on a 384 bit bus

[compact panther]

because its damned cursed

you have 12gb at 384 bit

then 4gb at

128 bit?

[livid idol]

Exactly. Each of these little differences is another problem for engineers to solve. The more time they spend in r&d the smaller the profit margin. It just makes no sense from any perspective.

[heady turtle]

Ohh i was talking about the 3080 having 16gb not the 3070

[heady turtle]

Make bus bigger

Yeah larger ram modules would just make more sense

[compact panther]

so you would be uh

10.66gbit

memory chips?

[livid idol]

You wouldn't have to make every one of them denser

[heady turtle]

I'm sure they can work out how to have more capacity per chip and a few less chips

XD

[compact panther]

less chips would mean smaller bus

which gimps performance

either you have a cursed memory setup

beg micron to create an extremely cursed version of g6x

you hurt performance

or you like

just dont do 16gb

[heady turtle]

Ahh that's sad

[compact panther]

imo

get rid of 3080 ti

give 3080 12gb

and yeah thats good

[livid idol]

But then they have to trash or severely cut down the chips that don't quite make the mark for 3090

[compact panther]

3080 isnt that cut down

[livid idol]

Yeah ok that's a small exaggeration, but still... Why would they stop selling the 3080 ti when they can charge $400-800 more for it over the 3080?

[green harness]

Yeah they wouldn't. Not unless supply outstripped demand anyway

[prisma cradle]

man farcry4 runs on my crap lap

very shocked

[solemn panther]

Lol 3080super 12gb makes noooo sense

Where is rommy

[compact panther]

why would they sell the 3080 for $700 when they can sell it for $1800

[solemn panther]

mm

i see

hey

ouch

stay stronk

[analog badge]

i went into a tech store yesterday and there was a rx6600 for $100 less than a 2060 (non super)

[heady turtle]

Impressive

[keen nacelle]

God I hate morons

12 year old is mining with an r7 m460, says its an igpu

Says tou can mine on an igpu

And that mining at 110c is safe

God damn

[candid fog]

bro theres a prebuil with 5500 and a ryzen 7 at my walmart for 600

[vital oriole]

hp?

[candid fog]

no.

[keen nacelle]

What brand?

[candid fog]

wait yeah its a hp pavilion

[keen nacelle]

2700x or 3700x?

[candid fog]

5500

[keen nacelle]

For cpu

And 5500xt is similar to 1650s right?

[candid fog]

well the 5500 is better than the 570

and the 570 has simular prformance to the 1650

[candid fog]

3700x

[keen nacelle]

Not bad honestly, hp is less than desirable but not an awful price

According to Google it's most similar to 1660

Imo you could just take the cpu and gpu outta it and sell the rest for like 200-300 depending on whats in it

[candid fog]

yeah

[candid fog]

prolly idk if i should get it tho and resell the parts

[keen nacelle]

Either that or just use it, hp pcs obviously aren't the best but it's not a bad price

[candid fog]

fr 600 is a steal rn

[green harness]

How'd you snag those?

[keen nacelle]

Hacks

He used kill aura

[vital oriole]

5500 non xt?

that's 570 perf

[keen nacelle]

Didn't even know 5500 non xt existed

[vital oriole]

oem only

[keen nacelle]

Ah

[vital oriole]

also that hp pavilion is pure trash even in upgradability

proprietary mobo

[keen nacelle]

Oh yeah I know

Hp gross

[vital oriole]

that one uses 2666mhz ram iirc

which murders perf

[keen nacelle]

But for 600 in this market it's not awful

[vital oriole]

With new cooler, ram, mobo and case and psu

[keen nacelle]

3700x 200$ used, 5500 prolly what, 250?

[vital oriole]

It'll be fine

[keen nacelle]

Just guessing

On the gpu price that is

[vital oriole]

250, ehh

[keen nacelle]

I'd just take the cpu and gpu and sell the rest

But it'd work keeping the whole thing if they really wanted to

Just not as well as if replacing all the oem parts lol

[vital oriole]

or

take mobo and psu outside

drill holes into a board

[keen nacelle]

Well I think the case only fits with the mobo in it

[vital oriole]

and you're good

[keen nacelle]

Fair