graphics-cards

[lone pond]

I was trying to make a crappy pc but who knew it was as expensive as a decent pc

[magic wing]

The gt 710 loses to the igpu in 11500

Also the gt 710 price there makes me want to kill myself

Literally

Its that bad

[lone pond]

It was the goal to make the build cursed but reasonable

I have lost reasonable on the prices

[lone pond]

I am not seeing a 11500 on the pc part picker

[magic wing]

Intel i5 11500

[lone pond]

Oh

.

Ok

[lone pond]

So keep the graphics but switch out the CPU?

[magic wing]

No

Remove gpu and cpu

[lone pond]

But that’s a cpu is it not

[magic wing]

Use only 11500

[lone pond]

Done

Alright

[magic wing]

11500 has internal graphics

[lone pond]

It’s not showing up on pc part picker

[magic wing]

Then slap in the cheapest b560 chipset mobo u can find

[magic wing]

What isnt

[lone pond]

The I5

[magic wing]

Remove mobo

Or switch off compatibility filter

Lol

[lone pond]

Ok

How do I turn off the filter

[magic wing]

Left side

[lone pond]

Also doesn’t that mean the I5 wouldn’t fit in the motherboard

[magic wing]

The box that says compatibility filter

[magic wing]

Thats... What compatibility means

[lone pond]

. Then what is the point of putting it on the build . . .

If it’s not compatible

[magic wing]

I mean whats the point of the build

Lmao

[lone pond]

School assignment

All the parts must match pretty much

And I’m just doing extra

Lol

[magic wing]

Did the school tell you to use only that mobo?

[lone pond]

No

[magic wing]

So whats the problem then

[lone pond]

Nothing IG

Just being a idiot /:

[dreamy dragon]

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[knotty horizon]

how hot should my 1650 super be?

its at 63c

do you know?

max graphics minecraft

well and discord

it at 59 now ok

Good

ok i have a good cooling setup[

4stock case fans

annd 2 cooler master fans and aio pump

Im not gonna mess with it

I built it 2days ago

LOL

and I had to get a friend to help me build so i dont wnana call him again

[jaunty mango]

Das a scam

[normal hawk]

https://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails?ItemList=Combo.4352781

Lol. It's still available

[heady turtle]

They couldn't even do b550

[normal hawk]

Yeah they are really making you buy ewaste

[livid idol]

That B450 would be ok for a 5600X at least, or a 5800X at stock

Possibly better but I didn't check the tier. I know most of the tuf boards are solidly in the middle though.

[sterile zodiac]

Does anyone have tips/experience with using a dedicated gpu and igpu simultaneously? I have a Ryzen 5 3400G and a 1060 3gb. I like mining with the 1060 (don’t laugh), and i want to have my computer still be useable, even stuff like minecraft while its mining. Sips bleach seductively was talking about his shmancy laptop being able to do that

[livid idol]

You just have to set the integrated graphics as the display adapter manually for the games

[sterile zodiac]

But does my monitor have to be plugged into the motherboard port, or can it stay in gpu

[livid idol]

For the mining stability you want, the motherboard

[sterile zodiac]

So do i just have to go in bios, enable both of them, and it’ll work?

[livid idol]

Well you'll want the drivers too, and you might need to change some settings in nvidia control panel so it tries to offload to the integrated by default

[sterile zodiac]

I used to run only on integrated before the days of my 1060, so in windows at least the drivers should be there.

Ill look for those settings tomorrow

Ideally it would work on Linux too but i guess i can’t have all good things

[livid idol]

Should work the same on linux tbh

[sterile zodiac]

I also have an xfx rx 240 4gb card, would it even be worth putting that in an empty slot to have or no?

[livid idol]

The R7 240?

[sterile zodiac]

Yeah, R7 240 4gb, sorry

[livid idol]

Nah Vega 11 blows that away

[sterile zodiac]

Cool, something that Vega 11 can stomp on is p rare

[livid idol]

It's still not great but passable

[sterile zodiac]

Lol theyre both pretty much at the low end

But for not having to buy a gpu when i built my pc, man the 3400g was amazing

[livid idol]

Yeah it's amazing what it can do when you think about it

[sterile zodiac]

The only reason I got the 1060 was cause it was good price used

I mean, i was using davinci resolve on Vega 11. Not gonna say it was smooth, but workable. Also minecraft was very playable

Recording with obs always put a strain on it, (no Nvenc), but it never had glitches or anything

[livid idol]

You could use it as a dedicated encoder on OBS now to take some load off the 1060. Hit or miss how well it works but might be worth trying.

[sterile zodiac]

No, the 1060 encodes no sweat. I was talking about the Vega 11 igpu being able to play minecraft and record at the same time

[keen nacelle]

vega 11 is great for an igpu

i believe its been the strongest for a few years

which it surprises me that they haven't made a stronger one

[livid idol]

Vega 11 is still twice as powerful as Intel's new UHD 750, so not much competition

They've got a RDNA iGPU in the new Steam Deck though, so that's a thing now

[keen nacelle]

dont they have the regular intel uhd graphics that is better than uhd 750?

i think mushroom was talking about it

and with an oc on it it was nearly as good as v11

[keen nacelle]

yeah isnt the gpu in that like 1050 ti perf?

i think i saw smthn about that

[livid idol]

The standalone GPU they came out with?

[keen nacelle]

idfk youd have to ask mushroom

i forget exactly what it was

he said its basically a higher clocked uhd 750 or smthn like that

[sterile zodiac]

Doesn’t Vega 11 kind of compare to one of the 900 series nvidia gpus? 950 or im imagining things

[livid idol]

Because they did make a dedicated GPU targeted at low power use on workstations

[keen nacelle]

its similar to 470 i think

[sterile zodiac]

Nvidia or amd?

[keen nacelle]

sorry lmao

nvidia

[sterile zodiac]

Lol just checking

[keen nacelle]

nvm

wait

[livid idol]

It's about a GTX 750

[keen nacelle]

thats rx 470

im stupid

[sterile zodiac]

Ah cool i was imagining

[keen nacelle]

idk, all i know is vega 11 is the strongest integrated gpu currently

do any 5000 series have vega 11? i know the lower ones have 8

[sterile zodiac]

And i own one 😎

[keen nacelle]

but i havent seen what the higher ones have

[livid idol]

5700g has updated vega

[keen nacelle]

meaning?

[livid idol]

Less cores but faster cores

[keen nacelle]

ah

[normal hawk]

Vega 8 not 11 sadly

[keen nacelle]

so its vega 8 but better than regular vega 8 that was in 3200g

?

[normal hawk]

Ye

[keen nacelle]

ah thought so

yeah 5700g and 5600g too right?

or is that regular vega 8 in 5600g

[normal hawk]

And the missing 5300g

[keen nacelle]

eh

[livid idol]

5600g has vega 7 update

[keen nacelle]

wait really?

[normal hawk]

Could have sworn they were all Vega 8 ;0

[keen nacelle]

also i was suprisied to see vega 3 was better than 730

[sterile zodiac]

They really should put Vega 11 with fast cores in the higher end gpus, start with the r7s

[keen nacelle]

not by a ton but a bit

[normal hawk]

Woah it really is Vega 7. That's crazy

[keen nacelle]

might get a vega laptop with a 3000 series cpu on bf or cm

just to run val and mc when i cant use my pc

[normal hawk]

Ew.

[keen nacelle]

?

i dont feel like spending 600$ for a 1650 laptop

on the cheaper end

dont really need much to do it so why not

https://www.walmart.com/ip/HP-15-6-FHD-Ryzen-3-3250-4GB-RAM-128GB-SSD-Silver-Windows-10-Home-in-S-mode-15-ef1300wm/282945105?wmlspartner=wlpa&selectedSellerId=0&&adid=22222222228460688456&wl0=&wl1=g&wl2=m&wl3=539702512955&wl4=pla-1405259616909&wl5=9003205&wl6=&wl7=&wl8=&wl9=pla&wl10=8175035&wl11=online&wl12=282945105&veh=sem&gclid=Cj0KCQjwwY-LBhD6ARIsACvT72MDmD1VkZuyO1h4OplPHFzGwzez5FrRw6PMbTEZ10UI99fXm-n0mgwaAmA0EALw_wcB&gclsrc=aw.ds

was what i found

gonna add a second 4gb stick to it

well

[sterile zodiac]

And take it out of f s mode

[keen nacelle]

assuming it has a single 4 in it

ye

[normal hawk]

https://www.amazon.com/Lenovo-IdeaPad-Processor-Graphics-81W0003QUS/dp/B0862269YP/

This what you're looking for bacca?

[keen nacelle]

idk ill have to see how much it is on bf/cm

[keen nacelle]

any idea how the battery life is on that?

also in the questions area it says it has 4gb of soldered memory

about 8hr battery according to reviews

[livid idol]

That has the older model vega 8

[keen nacelle]

thats fine

[normal hawk]

Bacca is looking for a cheap Igpu laptop

[keen nacelle]

just looking to clear 730 perf so it can run val

[livid idol]

Just making sure you didn't expect vega 11 lol

[keen nacelle]

ye

i atleast now what igpus 3000 series has

[normal hawk]

But wait is that zen+ or zen 2? 🤔 3000g desktop is zen+ and 4000g is zen 2 for desktop and mobile I'm pretty sure

It's zen+

[livid idol]

Zen+

Honestly, I'd just get a steam deck

[normal hawk]

^

[livid idol]

It has external display

[normal hawk]

I'm trying to get a steam deck

Don't need a laptop cause all I'd do is play games on it. Might as well get a device designed for it and not waste money.

[keen nacelle]

well i wouldnt mind having a laptop to bring to school

hate the school laptops with a passion

[livid idol]

I can't wait for someone to finally install windows and get a proper benchmark comparison on that thing for the GPU

[normal hawk]

I wish Microsoft would make an xcloud handheld that can natively play some games.

But i don't think it'll happen

[livid idol]

Weren't they trying to kill cloud gaming anyway?

Or was that Google

[normal hawk]

Microsoft kill it? Nah. They are going full force into it

[keen nacelle]

wait

question

what if i used parsec to game from my laptop on my oc?

pc*

[normal hawk]

You can play Xbox series x games on the 2013 Xbox one now. Through their browser streaming

[keen nacelle]

bad input lag right?

[normal hawk]

Depends on your internet's i think

[livid idol]

Steam Link would work the same way

[normal hawk]

I can stream from my PC to my phone when I'm at home. But being somewhere else will really slow it down in my experience

[livid idol]

I like that I can play xcom 2 on my old phone

[normal hawk]

You can play Morrowind on Android

[livid idol]

I wouldn't do it for anything that's latency sensitive, though, like val

[normal hawk]

And it runs fairly well

[livid idol]

I had a bad time playing undertale too, always too late dodging

[livid idol]

I played fallout 4 on my android and it worked well too through steam link. Used a wired connection to my ps4 controller.

[keen nacelle]

my brother has a 2070s mq and the most demanding game he plays is fallout 4

has never touched anything more demanding lmao

[livid idol]

Tbf it is fairly demanding, completely brought my 1060 to its knees. I'd get corrupted textures from low vram and it would overheat.

[normal hawk]

I mean Morrowind runs natively on Android

[livid idol]

So does kotor

[normal hawk]

OpenMW has an Android app, you can move Morrowinds PC game files over to your phone and run Morrowind with mods

[normal hawk]

Was it a 3gb or 6gb?

[livid idol]

3gb

[normal hawk]

I hated testing on the 3gb 1060's

Besides minspec which was the HD 7950 and the 670ti they were our lowest end GPU's.

Well, at least they ran worse than the 970. Which i think was 4gb vram which is probably why

[livid idol]

Yeah the 3gb model shouldn't have existed when 1050 ti has more memory lol

[vital oriole]

it's apparently

a design limitation

[lone pond]

Do you all know which graphic card is better to use for Premiere Pro and After Affects?

I mean for both of the software's

[timid narwhal]

is there no help on the adobe site?

[normal hawk]

What resolution are you working in?

[astral ginkgo]

best 3080 please

[lone pond]

I wanna go with 1920*1080

[magic wing]

Any 3080 you can buy

[magic wing]

Budget?

[lone pond]

I'm a child

Even a minimum requirement graphic card also doesn't matter

[heady turtle]

The cheapest one you can get

[magic wing]

Ok but whats ur budget

[lone pond]

I'm not doing a job😆

[magic wing]

Ok but how much you want to spend on the gpu

[lone pond]

about 10,000/=

[heady turtle]

10,000 what's?

[lone pond]

Why?

what's the problem?

[lone pond]

I mean the maximum amount

[heady turtle]

Last time i checked /= isn't a currency

[lone pond]

Yeah it's not a currency

[heady turtle]

Then what currency

[magic wing]

https://www.notebookcheck.net/AMD-launches-GPUFORT-an-open-source-attempt-against-NVIDIA-s-CUDA.571133.0.html

Hmmm

[lone pond]

Sri Lankan Rupees

[lone pond]

Thanks for information

[heady turtle]

Ahhhhh there you go

[lone pond]

What you all guys recommend?

[lone pond]

I mean which graphic card is better for both Premiere Pro and After affects

[heady turtle]

For your budget I'd doubt you'd get anything tbh

Anything that's better than integrated graphics anyway

[lone pond]

Okay thnx

[heady turtle]

Np

[nocturne warren]

is the r5 240 good for 720/768p gaming

i see them go for around $20 idk if its worth it

i currently have an i3 2100 lol

[heady turtle]

R5 240?

[toxic sinew]

OEM Dell GPU

Might be able to get 30 fps 720p on some games

[heady turtle]

Ahh

[toxic sinew]

I would look around for something a little more powerful

[nocturne warren]

can you recommend some

[toxic sinew]

How much money do you have to spend?

[sly stream]

Does anyone know why the gpu prices went up

[toxic sinew]

Yes, everyone knows why

Supply and demand, crypto, covid

Many things have caused it

[nocturne warren]

around below $50

used are ok for me as the pc is literally 8 yrs old lol

[dreamy dragon]

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[dreamy dragon]

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[steel ivy]

Hello everyone! Looking to upgrade my Video card and I need help!! Motherboard Gigabyte AMD FX 8350 (Current video card {1G VRAM} in PCIEX16 named slot) Desktop/tower set up. Looking to buy a 3G or 4G VRAM capable from Newegg.

[upbeat rover]

the gpu market is really screwed up right now. You would be paying double the MSRP at the least for any card out there. Do you NEED card now?

[normal hawk]

I would suggest buying a prebuilt since you're build is so out of date already.

[normal hawk]

What's your budget?

[steel ivy]

i hear you, just buy a prebuilt. My current tower is pretty sentimental.

[normal hawk]

You could still keep it as a keepsake.

[heady turtle]

Well depends on your budget for the upgrade

[steel ivy]

Pre builts only from China? Been reading the reviews for them (ipason?) and they all look shady

[heady turtle]

What's your budget dude? Can recommend you something

[steel ivy]

less than 1grand \0/

[heady turtle]

You in the us?

[steel ivy]

not looking for top of the line, just a casual gamer. Yes, actually in Cali now

[heady turtle]

Grand

[heady turtle]

Do you mind open box? If not https://www.newegg.com/abs-ala242-master/p/N82E16883360146R?itemPosition=1-12&exactIndex=0

[steel ivy]

I don't mind open box.

[heady turtle]

Then that would be perfect for you

[steel ivy]

thanks for the recommendation! It's at the top of my budget, but looking at specs it gets me the closest to being upgraded all around? I could add my own memory sticks and HD's to increase everything, right?

[heady turtle]

Yeah it's all off the shelf parts but 16gb should be plenty ram

[normal hawk]

Your ram with an FX 8350 is ddr3 so it'll be incompatible.

[heady turtle]

Think they mean with the prebuilt i sent

[normal hawk]

" I could add my own memory sticks and HD's to increase everything, right?"

They are referring to putting their ram and HD from their current PC into the new one.

Their current PC has ddr3 ram.

[heady turtle]

I didn't interpret it that way but i suppose you could

[normal hawk]

True. I'm assuming they weren't spending more right away so the likely option would be using pieces they already have.

[dreamy dragon]

hammerofdoubt#4091 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

[neon hull]

what are the chances of a 3070 ti getting 16gb of vram in the gpu refresh in early 2022?

[brazen hill]

3080 ti strix card been in stock all day today

Is the gpu market more stable now

[vital oriole]

nope

[vital oriole]

at what price tho?

i won't call it more stable if it's still so expensive

[brazen hill]

On Newegg for 2k

[vital oriole]

Yep

That's not normal kek

[brazen hill]

Yeah that’s what I was thinking usually they are gone right away

It’s still in stock right now if anyone wants one

[vital oriole]

Well 2k for 3080ti is way too much

Not many actually buys it

[brazen hill]

Yeah it’s msrp though other than the nvidia founder edition most of the 3080ti are 2k

[vital oriole]

That's..

Not msrp

Still not msrp, it's ducked market price

[neon hull]

bruh

msrp is like 1200$

[brazen hill]

What is msrp for the asus strix 3080 ti

I don’t think it’s 1200

[vital oriole]

i'd say about 1.5k is maximum acceptable price

[neon hull]

def not 2k lol

[vital oriole]

but yeah with the market as is

it's 2k rn

[neon hull]

rog strix gpus are around 200$ more than founders editions

might as well just get a 3090 at that price point if your lucky enough

even at msrp

[brazen hill]

All the other sites like bestbuy and microcenter have them for 2k as well did Asus mark it up them selves

[toxic sinew]

That's still not MSRP

That's market price

[neon hull]

inflation

if you wait for a best buy drop, you can buy a 3090 for cheaper than the current market 3080 ti

[brazen hill]

Good point

[neon hull]

if you dont want to spend that kind of money, I would just get a 3080 as it is good enough

[thorn rock]

I don't wanna be the guys who's bashing but... it's been more than a year since the last time i saw a gpu in shelf in any place. I'm still waiting for like 3 gpu in the EVGA queue since march so if somebody can show me the best buy drop... i'll be happy to participate ahah

[vital oriole]

bb drops are physical these days

[compact panther]

6900 xtxh is better than that strix and a good bit cheaper

[vital oriole]

^

nvenc, rt, dlss

well 6900xt has rt too but eh

fsr also exists, but also eh

compared to 30 series

[green harness]

AIB models are not last I checked

[compact panther]

aib xtxh or strix

6900 xt oct is $1700 and basically the best card you can buy

dlss is useless on a flagship imo

and sure nvenc and rtx are helpful if you need those features

[green harness]

DLSS isn't useless though. More frames = better

If someone is running at 4k DLSS is quite useful

[compact panther]

sorta?

i mean

i'd rather turn down settings or aa

dlss in many games is cursed

[green harness]

In plenty of games it works quite well at 4k

So you pick and choose based on the title (like with any other setting...)

[compact panther]

sure for that one niche use

doubt many people play 4k and instill would rather have better raster

and overclocking

[green harness]

"the one niche use" is that how you describe more frames?

[compact panther]

4k dlss?

because

dlss honestly useless

for 1440p

on a flagship gpu

even 4k meh?

i'd rather have 10% more fps without dlss than 25% more with dlss quality

[green harness]

It can also work well at 1440p. I have found it to be terrible at that resolution on a few games, but it works well on others

[compact panther]

i mean i never found a need i get 150fps+ in pretty much all AAA games

with one exception

icarus

icarus is cursed

[green harness]

I'd always prefer 170+ if at all possible

[compact panther]

i was doing 200 hitting the stock fps limit in 2042

[green harness]

I can live with less, but if I can get more with no noticeable difference in quality I'm taking it

[compact panther]

well

dlss quality

is a noticable step down

i'd rather like lower as and lower shadows and stuff

if you cant notice it good for you

i guess?

i didnt buy a kilobuck+ card to play at 1080p on a 1440p monitor ai upscaling or not

[green harness]

The quality impact varies quite a bit by game.

[compact panther]

its always a quality decrease

on my 2080S was nice in metro E

but now i get 144fps in that so no longer needed

oh i can get more

oh wait im playing enhanced edition

anyways

6900 xt oct at $1700 > $2100 3080 ti for gaming

especially when both are overclocked

and thats the strix lc which is about 20C cooler

[green harness]

It always impacts the image, but whether or not the difference is a noticeable quality decrease is another thing entirely

[compact panther]

its always been more significant than turning aa and shadows down

[green harness]

I'm not saying anyone should get an 80Ti for 2.1k (they shouldn't imo, bought mine for MSRP), but just saying "DLSS bad" is pretty silly

I'd be hard-pressed to point out any difference in some games at 1440p, particularly in motion (I don't tend to stand around doing nothing in games)

In Doom Eternal though I find the quality drops quite noticeably unfortunately

[solemn panther]

Rommy being smart

Dlss is the future till the day comes when its no longer needed

[magic wing]

Rommy is very big brain

[solemn panther]

I can feel the intelligence raging

👀

[magic wing]

Me on rx570 playing gam at 1080p all low

:(

[solemn panther]

3080ti gang

What over demanding games do u have? @sterile parcel

[magic wing]

gib

[solemn panther]

Ur psu would beg for death

[magic wing]

nope

it wont

itll be fine

I have good psu now

i no longer sus gigabyte psu

[solemn panther]

Will do. Tomorrow

Froge is the best

[sterile zodiac]

Froge is the absolute best

[keen nacelle]

I mean, because of how awfully optimized it is whenever I streamed with rtx on I saw my fps dip to like 40

Yeah when I realized I saw no difference with it I turned it off all the time

Always turned it off for streaming

[livid idol]

Cold War is harder on the cpu

Still hurts lower end gpu though

[keen nacelle]

maybe that was why, my ram was running at 2666mhz bc my bios were outdated

and i had a 3000mhz kit with a 3600 kit anyways

somehow they were both micron dies luckily lmao

[dire coral]

is the only option to overpay or wait for prices to chill out?

[normal hawk]

The reason cod warzone sucks for RT is because the sun is not a light source that will use it iirc.

On day maps RT is useless. Only functions properly on night maps.

And even then, as a faster paced arcade shooter. You won't even notice most of the effects in it.

So you really are just losing frames for nothing.

[heady turtle]

Ehh yes and no, if you consider a dime over msrp your only option is best buy, if you consider it as 1 or 2 hundred over msrp then there's a good few, check the pins

[normal hawk]

https://www.newegg.com/asus-geforce-rtx-3080-ti-rog-strix-rtx3080ti-o12g-gaming/p/N82E16814126508 no bundle!

https://www.newegg.com/asus-radeon-rx-6900-xt-rog-strix-lc-rx6900xt-t16g-gaming/p/N82E16814126514 1800$ for the hybrid cooled 6900xt. I want it 🥵

[normal hawk]

Imma make bad choices e.e need self control

[heady turtle]

That strix tax

[heady turtle]

Afaik asrock formula still available for 1600 I'd grab that instead if i had to tbh

[normal hawk]

But hybrid cooling uwu

[normal hawk]

And the one for 1600 is phantom gaming. I have the same model 5700xt

[heady turtle]

Ahh must have gone up

[heady turtle]

6600xt good tho :)

[vital oriole]

^

6600 is

sadge

[heady turtle]

Ohhh, i thought that was supposed to be tomorrow?

[vital oriole]

gn reviewed tho

so it must be available

6600 is sad release anyway

its perf is so pathetic

[heady turtle]

Yeah it's not even on amd.com

[heady turtle]

Really :(

[vital oriole]

yes

for the price it has

big ew

[heady turtle]

Sad

I watch review now

[vital oriole]

14gbps vram

it's bottleneckin it

[heady turtle]

Gbps is like mem mhz times 4 or something

So far it looks like a fair comparison to 2060 super tbf

[vital oriole]

ye

but it's basically stagnation in improvements

amd knows it'll sell

[heady turtle]

I'm guessing it's like 300$? Or something

I wonder how it ocs

Bruh 330 msrp booooo

[magic wing]

which gpu is in question?

[vital oriole]

6600

[magic wing]

poop

[vital oriole]

well nabbad considering it's

similar to 3060 in perf and msrp

but ofc

loses to 3060 in rt

and 3060 has dlss

[twin dove]

Which has better performance, GTX 980 4GB or GTX 1060 3GB?

They seem to come at about the same price

[vital oriole]

980

[magic wing]

^

[twin dove]

thanks

[normal hawk]

Still trying to get a PS5. Wanna play the new Spiderman but not gonna buy it on PS4 e.e

Lol

I'd be fine with the digital ps5

Not at this point. Was the one i wanted anyway. All my PS4 games are digital. 🤷‍♂️ Don't care for a disc drive

https://www.newegg.com/asus-radeon-rx-6900-xt-rog-strix-lc-rx6900xt-t16g-gaming/p/N82E16814126514

Rommy, tell me not to buy this.

Ty

😭 I wanted it. But I'd have no where to put it.

Unless i put it with the i5 4460 🥵

I go back to my regular job on the 25th

Back to game testing 😤 but back at the office now

It looks like i have to go back through training :c cause it's been a while.

Nice nice

Do tech support for old people

Nice

[green harness]

This explains the "labor shortage" in a nutshell

Well add poor pay in as well

A lot of places are. Just about every restaurant here is hiring, and those jobs are rough

Anyway glad you've got what you need!

Yeah, most service industry jobs are rough unfortunately

😫

[dreamy dragon]

centrix#6562 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

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Reason: Bad word usage

[dreamy dragon]

FMR#7777 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

[winged minnow]

arnt aurorus and gigabyte the same company

then why is there is normal gigabyte cards and auroras cards

[toxic sinew]

Aorus is a brand of Gigabyte

[livid idol]

If you're seeing aurora they're probably a fake model

Aorus is the correct model name

[winged minnow]

misspell

its aorus

why is there is auros cards and gigabyte cards?

[toxic sinew]

Because some companies have multiple brand names

[livid idol]

Aorus is just one of many models

[winged minnow]

what is the point of that

[normal hawk]

Aorus is their high end products, like how Asus has RoG

[winged minnow]

i have seen an rtx 3090 gigabyte but not aorus

[livid idol]

Market segmentation

I own an Aorus master 3090

[normal hawk]

Yeah. Not all 3090 is "high end" in terms of 3090's

Some have inadequate cooling, some have lower power limits, etc

Rog Stix > tuf. But both are Asus.

[winged minnow]

can cooling drop from high end to low end

cant i just overclock and install better cooling

[heady turtle]

No you can't install better cooling on a gpu

[livid idol]

For the price of better cooling you can buy the better model and save money

[winged minnow]

doesnt case cooling impact that gpu

[normal hawk]

Waterblock

[livid idol]

Minimally, only to a point

[heady turtle]

Custom loop isn't exactly practical

[livid idol]

Not practical but it is fun (and expensive and risky)

[normal hawk]

They have AIO's for the 3000 series now. I think Europe only though

Articwolf I think is who sells the ones i saw.

[livid idol]

Oh did they finally make a universal bracket?

[normal hawk]

German website

[heady turtle]

After market aios not great tbh

[normal hawk]

Not universal. But they do have several models

[livid idol]

Oh, so barely any different from current waterblocks. I guess the only difference is that they don't need to worry about as much of the PCB as a full block

[normal hawk]

Alphacool, not artic wolf

[livid idol]

Ah, yeah they make decent waterblocks and radiators

[normal hawk]

https://www.alphacool.com/shop/aios-sets/gpu-aio/28494/alphacool-eiswolf-2-aio-360mm-rtx-3080/3090-gaming/eagle-mit-backplate

This would be the one for my 3080 ti

[livid idol]

Yeah looks like they took their existing water blocks and just attached their radiator and a few fans

[normal hawk]

Ye

But a 360mm AIO is pretty big. It'd fit but eh. The case has good enough airflow

[livid idol]

Aquatuning.us distributes the alphacool products in North America so we'll see them on there soon if they're not already

Sure enough https://www.aquatuning.us/water-cooling/kits-systems-and-aios/all-in-one-gpu/28494/alphacool-eiswolf-2-aio-360mm-rtx-3080/3090-gaming/eagle-with-backplate?c=6459

[normal hawk]

Oo

[rich cedar]

christ, im seeing some 30 series GPUs for over 3 grand

[livid idol]

Sounds like scalpers alright

[rich cedar]

its on newegg lol

[livid idol]

Yeah? Report them to [e-mail]

[normal hawk]

Newegg has 3rd party sellers

[livid idol]

Scalpers aren't allowed on newegg marketplace, they're breaking ToS

[rich cedar]

https://www.newegg.com/pny-geforce-rtx-3090-vcg309024tfxppb/p/N82E16814133807 like this 3090, i get its the best 30 series card but god, who has 3 grand right now

[normal hawk]

Are you looking for a GPU right now or just browsing?

[rich cedar]

just browsing lol

[normal hawk]

Ah

[livid idol]

There's bundles available with 6600XT right now

[rich cedar]

i was looking into a Vega 56 or Vega 64, if prices ever drop back to anything resonable, ive got an RX 580 ive had for a few years now

[livid idol]

$600 for an asrock GPU and b450 mobo

[normal hawk]

The only RTX cards Newegg is selling right now are a strix 3080 ti and an Aorus EGPU. I wouldn't suggest either of them

[livid idol]

Vega will never be reasonable

[normal hawk]

Go with a 6600xt instead of a vega

6600xthas better performance In far cry what else matters?

[rich cedar]

damn yeah lo

im actually thinking about getting Far Cry 6

[normal hawk]

Hell, the 6600xt outperforms the 3080 ti even if only by a few frames ;(

[rich cedar]

i really really was interested in Cyberpunk but im not sure how stable it is

[normal hawk]

The game is stable.

The bugs were never my issue with the game. My issue lies in the fact it's empty af despite having a full world.

NPC's are dumb, low customization, not a lot of details, the story to me is kinda flat.

[livid idol]

Agreed, cp2077 felt more like a technology showcase game like control

[normal hawk]

Like, i enjoyed crackdown 3 more than cyberpunk in comparison.

[rich cedar]

yeah, so idk if this is any kind of comparison, but GTA 5 was my first game with any real good story in it, and i really like those kinds of games, Cyberpunk looked really cool

[normal hawk]

Cyberpunk does look cool. And it could have been a good game. I think it was over hyped and released about 3 years too late

[livid idol]

Yeah the delays and the bugs really killed it the most

[normal hawk]

If it released the same year mass effect Andromeda came out, i don't think I'd have an issue with it.

I play Ark and skyrim, i don't care about bugs 🤷‍♂️

[rich cedar]

i forgot Red Dead Redemption 2 could be an option, i am just looking for something with a progressive story that keeps me in it lol

[livid idol]

Me too, but when those bugs interfere with my ability to play the game I get annoyed

[normal hawk]

Play Horizon Zero Dawn

It's on steam.

[livid idol]

Like when I got trapped in the mind of a dead king in skyrim and all my save files got corrupted

[keen nacelle]

There is no way that's right

[livid idol]

It's an AMD title

[keen nacelle]

It's tomshardware

[livid idol]

Made specifically to be optimized on AMD

[keen nacelle]

Is it really?

Didn't know that

[normal hawk]

Ye

[livid idol]

You see an AMD logo when the game launches lol

[keen nacelle]

Still, probably not the best to show performance by...

[keen nacelle]

I've never touched a far cry game

Might get six though

[livid idol]

That explains it, assassins creed is the same way

[normal hawk]

It's just really unoptimized to be fair. Also the choice in CPU might have had something to do with the ranking order.

[rich cedar]

damn this looks good

[normal hawk]

They used a 9900k

[livid idol]

Still a really solid cpu, wonder where it ranks on steam survey...

[rich cedar]

assasins creed, i think my friend has that game, its the medeval one with the pirates and stuff?

[livid idol]

Well that's one of them at least

Or, like 3

[normal hawk]

The new ones are Egypt, Greek, and Vikings

The greek one is great. Egypt was cool, and the Viking one is meh imo

[rich cedar]

Skyrim, ive heard a lot about that but never really looked into it

[normal hawk]

It's a classic. 🤷‍♂️ But I'd wait for the anniversary edition to buy it so you can get all the Creation Club content

[livid idol]

Owners of SE will get anniversary free

There's some engine updates and stuff too

[normal hawk]

You get the upgrade for free. Not the Creation Club content

[rich cedar]

oh dang, fallout 4 looks really cool, i may end up playing that

[winged minnow]

are super cards better than ti cards

[normal hawk]

The purchase itself is solely the creation club content. Only free ones for everyone will be the Saints and Seducers, fishing, and camping.

[winged minnow]

and alot of people say that the 3090 isnt worth it for gaming will the leaked 3090ti be worth it?

[normal hawk]

Ti should be better

[normal hawk]

No

[winged minnow]

f

[winged minnow]

u mean ti?

[normal hawk]

Ye

[winged minnow]

ok

[rich cedar]

no, they are launching another new line called To that slots invetween Super and Ti

😂

[normal hawk]

Wouldn't shock me. They would like the extra money for 3-5% performance increase

[rich cedar]

prolly

[livid idol]

All they'd have to do is a little more binning and they can charge $200 extra

[autumn crest]

Does anyone here know if the 6600 non xt is out yet?

[normal hawk]

It was in shuffle this morning

[rich cedar]

Nividia: Charging more for pointless side models since like, 2018?

[normal hawk]

Might be in stores today or tomorrow

[autumn crest]

What are their starting msrp price?

[normal hawk]

329

[autumn crest]

Nice, i might accually be able to get one

[normal hawk]

If not there are 6600xt bundles available

[autumn crest]

The cheapest 6600xt was like 379?

[livid idol]

479

Just checked AMD site to see if non-xt was there yet, it's not

[normal hawk]

https://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails?ItemList=Combo.4363114

Cheapest 6600xt bundle: 619$

[rich cedar]

god dang the 6600XT kicks my 580s ass

and its not even that expensive

im seeing non XT 6600s on Newegg right now

ooh

all out of stock

nice

https://www.newegg.com/sapphire-radeon-rx-6600-11310-01-20g/p/N82E16814202409?quicklink=true

[livid idol]

Shuffle only but you'll have a good chance at them probably

[autumn crest]

Is it possible to get a 1660 super?

At a good price

[rich cedar]

i really havent had my 580 long enough to warrent a replacement but i will keep those in mind

[normal hawk]

Try r/hardwareswap

[rich cedar]

so, you mentioned the Vega cards are going to hold their value really really well

[normal hawk]

No. They just won't be priced according to the performance

[rich cedar]

ooh

[normal hawk]

Radeon VII is in the same boat.

[rich cedar]

i feel like eventually those are gonna be black sheep cards lol

[livid idol]

Think of them like the Titan cards
Newer models like the 3070 blow them away but they still cost over $1000 even before shortage

[rich cedar]

oooohh

makes sense

the Titan doesnt ever get any attention lol

[heady turtle]

https://tenor.com/view/are-you-a-comedian-funny-man-comedian-humorist-stand-up-gif-15590532

[autumn crest]

Maybe

¯\_(ツ)_/¯

[heady turtle]

I would suggest looking for 1070 or 1080s instead as they'd probs be same price if not cheaper

Unless you need the better nvenc for streaming

[autumn crest]

How much of a fps drop would it be?

I dont need a amazing gpu, but it would be nice to have something that runs most high end games with good fps

[heady turtle]

How much would the fps drop be of what?

[autumn crest]

Doesent the older nvenc drop fps? For streaming or something?

[heady turtle]

Ehh it's not as good, idk how much the difference will be though, are you looking to stream?

[autumn crest]

Prolly

[heady turtle]

Shame

Ehh lemme see if i can find a comparison vid

[autumn crest]

Shame?

[heady turtle]

Well if you didn't wanna stream then going a 10 series card is an obvious choice for your budget if you were looking at 1660 super

[autumn crest]

Im more confused right now, streaming is like twitch right?

I have a 400$ total budget for a gpu

Im trying to make a list of diffrent gpus i could potentially get in newegg shuffle or bestbuy or something

Fo the best chance of getting them

[heady turtle]

Yeah

[heady turtle]

Ohh you wont find a 1660 new anywhere

[autumn crest]

Why

[heady turtle]

The only cards you'll find in newegg best buy etc are 3060/3060 ti/rx 6600/6600xt in your price point but amd cards don't have nvenc soo

[heady turtle]

Because they've been out of production for about a year or more

[autumn crest]

Oh

Any tips for buying used?

Or are they all going to be scalped?

[heady turtle]

Well they'll kinda be scalped because gpu shortage, they bout 2x price ish before from what I've seen

[autumn crest]

So its going to cost like 400$ for a 1660 super?

[heady turtle]

Try r/hardwareswap

[magic wing]

pato

[heady turtle]

Most likely

Yes

[magic wing]

i messed my os up

[autumn crest]

Whats this?

[magic wing]

android

[heady turtle]

Ro ro

[magic wing]

boot loop

[heady turtle]

Reddit page for buying and selling stuff

[autumn crest]

Kk ill look

[heady turtle]

@autumn crest what's your total system budget btw?

[heady turtle]

How

[magic wing]

tried installing a pixel tweak through magisk

it messed with booter

and it ded

[heady turtle]

Wip uhhhhh can you try reflash os?

[magic wing]

absolutely

just pain

not problem

[autumn crest]

1k 🇺🇸$

I have a list if u want to see

Also about the hardwareswap thing, if i wanted to buy a 1660 super i would just post that and wait

[heady turtle]

Then just get this imho get this https://www.newegg.com/abs-ali520-challenger/p/N82E16883360125R?itemPosition=1-12&exactIndex=1 or wait til 2060 open box one comes back in stock, or if you can spare an extra 100 https://www.newegg.com/abs-ala232-master/p/N82E16883360066R?itemPosition=1-12&exactIndex=11

[heady turtle]

Yeah but you'll probs be doing more looking for posts

[autumn crest]

Kk

[autumn crest]

Ok wtf

How did u do that

Thats pretty much my pc list

[heady turtle]

Lol abs have nice prebuilts

[autumn crest]

Lol

[dreamy dragon]

That_boy786#5358 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

[keen nacelle]

As that says it's unconfirmed

But if they do release a 3050/ti desktop I'd be confused

I mean it'd be cool to have low end gpus possible of rtx, but A: they won't be able to utilize it with any decent fps, B: they'll perform probably towards the mid-high 16 series level

[livid idol]

We are missing the budget tier models still in the new gen. The lowest we have are for 1080p max settings

[keen nacelle]

Yeah true

3060 can do most games 60fps max settings ig

Just never thought the 50/ti would become desktop gpus

I also don't know why they'd give it 12gb of vram, no way it'd utilize more than 6, right?

[fervent star]

some YouTuber had the 3060 up to almost 8.5gb used recently

[keen nacelle]

Eh, unsurprising

That's why they gave it 12

6 would be too little

[fervent star]

Mhm

kinda weird the 3070 is only 8 tho

is that even gonna be enough

[keen nacelle]

Because it's either 8 or 16

And 8 is fine for it

It would only really need more for video editing/rendering and 4k

[fervent star]

true true

[keen nacelle]

And need is used lightly there

2080 ti has more vram and is better for 4k, but why you running 4k with either of those gpus anyways

[fervent star]

true

I'm just waiting to get a GPU for 1440p 144hz

[keen nacelle]

3070

[fervent star]

yep

[keen nacelle]

3080

Oh

You mean like actually get lmao

3060 ti isn't bad at 1440p either

[fervent star]

yuhh

[keen nacelle]

How much can you spend?

[fervent star]

honestly I'd take any tbh

[keen nacelle]

Or do you just want msrp

[fervent star]

I'm trying to stay under or around 600

[keen nacelle]

On r/hardwareswap 3060 tis go for 700-750 often

Ah

Yeah that doesn't happen so often

[fervent star]

mhm gotta find MSRP

[keen nacelle]

6700xts go for 650 there

Atleast reference models

[fervent star]

I would go higher but I need a monitor so that kills my budget

[keen nacelle]

Then just go 1080p 144hz

[fervent star]

ouch

I'm in college man I couldn't do it

ouch

[keen nacelle]

Why do you want 1440p?

Just go 1080p and get a 3060 ti/6700xt

[fervent star]

if I can find a 3060ti I'd consider it

[keen nacelle]

Msi g241

[keen nacelle]

They go for 700 pretty often on hws

Yeah for twice the price

For the monitor anyways

And for now I'm sticking at 1080p, I prefer the frames

Though I have a 1440p 75hz for when I play chill games

[magic wing]

wot

y

[keen nacelle]

Because they're currently working with a $600 gpu budget

120+ tax difference

So 130 ig

Smthn around there

Don't feel like doing the actual math

The monitor is 180 on newegg

Atleast it was yesterday

[fervent star]

I'm just gonna wait and hope I can find time to drive 2.5 hours for a card next drop

gotta go for msrp

[keen nacelle]

Also

What cpu are you going for?

[fervent star]

5800x might switch for 5600x

[keen nacelle]

5800x when going for 1440p for a 3070/3060 ti

Bruh

Do you only game?

Or do you do cpu intensive stuff too

Or any esports

[fervent star]

no I do a lot of cad and other rendering stuff

[keen nacelle]

Then don't really need 5800x

5600x definitely

You'd even be fine with a 10400

Nah

I read that as February somehow

[fervent star]

a 5600x will be fine for a workstation too? I'm an engineering major I do a lot

[keen nacelle]

Depends on the workloads

If there's nothing cpu intensive then yes, even then it should handle it more than fine

5800x is super hot and not a huge jump from 5600x

I'd rather spend 100-150 less and get a cooler cpu that isn't much worse

[fervent star]

is 6 cores gonna be enough for 5 years or so before upgrading? I hear a lot about whether 6 is enough

[keen nacelle]

Cores isn't all that matters

[fervent star]

true

[keen nacelle]

And depends on what you mean by enough

If you want it to run all upcoming games at max settings ofcourse not

Will it be able to run games? Most likely

But the difference from those two cpus won't make up much of a difference

Especially with a 3060 ti/70

[fervent star]

hmm interesting

Might have to switch it

[keen nacelle]

I def would

The 5800x gets very hot

Tbf all 5000 series does

But 5800x more so than 5600x/5900x

I think 5950x a bit more but I forget

Doesn't relate to your situation anyways

[magic wing]

thats msrp 3070

[heady turtle]

Msrp 3070 ti*

But that bleh card

[worn vessel]

Anyone think i got a good deal on my RTX 2060 that i just bought for 400? All I know is that GPU prices are ridiculous right now.

[heady turtle]

Yikes

It's not great but

I mean it's kinda market scalped price

[keen nacelle]

And they're 2.5hours from the nearest best buy, msrp isn't always possible

[livid idol]

What about my cooling setup?

Reading...

Yes the 5800X has a lot of heat density and can be as hot as the 5950X. 5600X has a lower power draw and the cores are more spread out on the 5900X, so they run cooler.

I have a 240mm AIO on mine, and that' fine if you don't want to overclock it. If you want to use PBO a 360mm is recommended for the 5800X.

[wispy crystal]

From experience with a 5800x, I use a 240 AIO from Corsair (Think its the H100I Elite Capellix), and I don’t usually see over 73C under a full load after about 3 hours

[normal hawk]

My 5800x is ice cold.

[wispy crystal]

And that’s OC’ed at 4.7 all the time, and the room temp is about 93° F (not sure what that’d translate to in Celsius since Iun wanna do math rn)

[frail warren]

oh good lord your room is hell, how do you live in near 100 degree temps?

[wispy crystal]

I live in Texas, I see high temps all the time

This Summer got in my car one day and read 127 e.e

[magic wing]

what voltage is it running 4.7ghz

[keen nacelle]

With what cooler

[magic wing]

also 33C isnt much tbh

[wispy crystal]

I think voltage is set to 1.25

[normal hawk]

An EK 240mm AIO

[magic wing]

put everything to auto

[keen nacelle]

How cold in c to?

[magic wing]

and turn on PBO

[magic wing]

iCe

heh

[keen nacelle]

Pain

[magic wing]

indeed

I doubt its under 70C under load ngl

[keen nacelle]

My 3600 sits at like 75 under full load because I dropped the heatsink and it bent a bit

Se 224 xt

[lone pond]

So the RX6600 non XT came out today and Newegg is already out of them. Really?

[keen nacelle]

Kinda in a shortage bud

Nah my case is actually pretty decent

For the price anyways

[magic wing]

my 3600x sits at 80C because I have great airflow but trash cooler

[keen nacelle]

Cooler master n400

It looks decent anyways

2artic p12pwm and 2 stock fans and I have a third p12 i need to add in

2 intake 2 outtake ofc

[magic wing]

I have 2 intake and 3 exaust

[keen nacelle]

I didn't know anything about cooling and it was all my local pc shop had

And i didn't think to Google it

The worst thing is I paid 150$ for it

[lone pond]

Ya but it hasn’t even been 24 hours yet

[keen nacelle]

Tbf

[magic wing]

lol my cpu idles at 60C

[keen nacelle]

I had only been in the pc world for like 3 months

[toxic sinew]

GPUs sell out in seconds

Literally seconds

[keen nacelle]

I'll check what mine idles at

One sec

[magic wing]

my other pcs cpu idles at 35

[keen nacelle]

I'm currently gpu mining but I doubt that'll matter for cpu Temps

[lone pond]

That sucks butt

[keen nacelle]

Nothing significant anyways

[magic wing]

its literally 2-3C above ambient

[lone pond]

One can hope though

[magic wing]

no

there is no hope

[keen nacelle]

Cpu idles at 49 it seems

[lone pond]

Why not?

[keen nacelle]

Pbo isn't on

[magic wing]

only fast reaction time and camping outside a bestbuy

[keen nacelle]

Since it barely doesn't anything with my cpu

4pts single core and 21 mc on r23

So just turned it off

[magic wing]

XD

[lone pond]

Ya I read that in MaxipumPC

[keen nacelle]

Temp on it should be lower but as I said I'm a moron and dropped the heatsink

I bent it back as good as I could but didn't feel like sending it back

[magic wing]

man im so beat today

[keen nacelle]

Oh btw

[magic wing]

i should sleep

[keen nacelle]

I found someone complaining about hitting 100c on his 10900k bc he remounted his water cooler

[lone pond]

Sleep is overrated

[keen nacelle]

He didn't reapply thermal paste lmfao

Really? Figured it'd atkeast change a bit

[magic wing]

dont sleep for 2 days while having a fever and then tell me that

[keen nacelle]

Maybe my Temps are normal then

Or I didn't apply thermal paste well enough, idfk

Whatever, theyre below 90

So doesnt matter much

[magic wing]

[keen nacelle]

I really should put this p12 in my case

Idk where to put it tho

The second side panel or the top

Or thr front mesh where the two stock fans are

[magic wing]

intake p12

both front fans are intake

[keen nacelle]

I currently have 1 outtake and intake of each p12

Wait really?

[magic wing]

nah intake with p12

[keen nacelle]

That means I have 2 exhaust currently

[lone pond]

I can one up you, don’t sleep for three days because while deployed your squad get pinned down and doesn’t get help for those three days and you can’t sleep because people are shooting at you

[keen nacelle]

3*

Missclicked

God I hate typing on phone

I have 3 exhaust currently

Wait

No

I read what tou said wrong

I have 3 intake

One outtake

Ye

[magic wing]

i would intake with p12

exclusively

[keen nacelle]

Only one?

[magic wing]

and out with all other fans

[keen nacelle]

Ah

[magic wing]

you said you have 3

[keen nacelle]

Yeah

[magic wing]

so put those in the front

for intake

[keen nacelle]

I wasn't sure if you meant with p12 as one or all 3

[keen nacelle]

God that means I have to redo the entire fan set up

Eh

I have time on my hands

Why not

Give me a minute

[magic wing]

3 p12s in the front as intake and then all others as out its werf it trust me

[wispy crystal]

I'm running all corsair ll120's, used to have all be quiet! pure wings 3 or whatever, 2 were 140 and 4 were 120

[keen nacelle]

Gonna update and shutdown then do it

I can put my pc on my bed right?

It'll be fineeee

Same

Oh I probably need a screw driver

WAIT

Yeah no I'm not redoing the fans like that

I'd have to take the mesh of the case apart

Idk

I'll see how difficult it is in a moment

Idts

I'll show you in a min

Why is this a thing

Maybe

It'll be for fans today

The whole thing comes off

Eh

I was told to tho

No I don't have a sheet on my bed rn don't judge me

Idfk why flash was on

My fingers are not that small

There

Wow those fans are dirty ash

I have been i just haven't used a light

Jesus

Haven't checked yet

It probably exists

But I feel like it'd be tedious

Wait

Nevermind

It literally pops up

Oh wait

Fudge

The cables

The cable is under a ton of others

I'd have to take apart the entire thing if I pulled the fan out

Instead I'm gonna try to fit it through the hard drive bay

Nope

Cable goes under the hard drive bay

@magic wing the two front fans aren't gonna be coming off bc id have to redo half the cable managing for that

What should I make the third p12?

Cause rn it's 2 stock intake, 1 p12 intake, and 1 p12 outtake

@sterile parcel ?

Well, i know it should be exhaust, but should it go at the top? It'd be right next to the heatsink

Hr the back, I think right by the hard drive enclosure

Or right above the two stock fans

Oh such fun

They sent the wrong fan

I bought pwm, its non pwm

Oh even better

My pwm splitter is broken

Yeah and without that I don't have the slot I need for the fan

Well then

This has been fun