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steady eagle
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yeah thats the one

keen nacelle
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Still better than the 730

steady eagle
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-.-

hot folio
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Also which A8 is it? There are tons of them

keen nacelle
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Anyways, your best bet would prolly be a 780 ti or 970 imo

steady eagle
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im on my laptop currently

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not the desktop

steady eagle
keen nacelle
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780 ti could prolly run most current games

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It's better than a 1650 I believe

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Maybe around 1060 6gb?

steady eagle
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god end this shortage already

rain vale
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Can they not simply increase production by a lot?

cosmic bluff
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No sadly

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Sounds simple but in practice its a mess

twilit echo
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happy dance got a card in the AMD queue today 😁

safe onyx
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nice.

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I keep forgetting the AMD queue exists

heady turtle
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Alright for 25 euro there

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Respectively valorant will run on a potato

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Not well but

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It will run

keen nacelle
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Technichally you can run 30fps on intel hd 4000

vital oriole
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A series iGPUs sucked

keen nacelle
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What were they?

vital oriole
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I mean they're not too bad but they were meh

keen nacelle
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I thought it was vega 6 and 7

heady turtle
vital oriole
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R series

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Vega only came to ryzen and zen to zen+ athlons

keen nacelle
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I haven't heard of that, how do they compare?

heady turtle
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For valorant I'd be more worried bout the cpu

vital oriole
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R series is much slower

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They're basically rebrand of HD 7000 series or something

keen nacelle
vital oriole
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not sure

keen nacelle
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Oh

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Oof

vital oriole
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radeon r7 is pretty slow compared to vega

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like what, vega 3 perf?

keen nacelle
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Tbf vega 3 is still better than 730

vital oriole
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uh no

keen nacelle
vital oriole
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lemme get a correct site lel

keen nacelle
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Wait is that site wrong?

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I've been using it for like 5 months thinkies

vital oriole
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hm

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well passmark does say vega 3 faster, scores wise

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but about 100 points

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yep it's slower, dang

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gddr5 730

keen nacelle
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It's referring to what

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I'm on school internet

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YouTube is slow af at loading bc of it

cerulean rover
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Vega 3 better prob

vital oriole
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yes

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it is better consistently

keen nacelle
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Pog

vital oriole
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tfw 900 series had no gt series for desktop

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woulda been interesting

stark barn
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Which one is better?

hot folio
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3070ti is better but not at that price

stark barn
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They got a shuffle going on with the 3070 ti for like $860 so I get a chance to win and buy it. I’m get it and then sell my 2080 ti

steady eagle
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sounds like a plan

verbal geyser
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guys

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RTX 3060 or AMD Radeon RX 6700 XT

hot folio
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6700xt by a long shot

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6700xt is equivalent to the 3060ti

verbal geyser
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noice

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and its even cheaper than rtx 3060

cerulean rover
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Not sure where you're looking but maybe for you

verbal geyser
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Intel I9 10850k or AMD Ryzen 7 5800x?

verbal geyser
verbal geyser
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both of them on Amazon

keen nacelle
keen nacelle
cerulean rover
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Yea those prices aren't exactly what they should be but eh

keen nacelle
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Amazon is even worse than ebay

cerulean rover
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You do you

keen nacelle
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If you're gaming, 5800x. If you're doing things that need the cores like editing and such 10850k.

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Tho 5800x is still good for editing

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It has stronger cores, just less

verbal geyser
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ok

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thanks

cerulean rover
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Keep in mind 5800x can beat 10850k in some multi core tasks still

keen nacelle
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Does it?

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Didn't know that

stark barn
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I got intel i9 11900k lmao and I mostly do gaming

verbal geyser
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as i know intel is more for games

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and amd with their supper cores its more for editing

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and things using more cores

cerulean rover
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Use specific benchmarks for everything

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Generalizing misses things

keen nacelle
pallid coyote
# verbal geyser and amd with their supper cores its more for editing

They are good for certain uses. I work for an engineering firm and we tried the 5900x against the 11900K for 3D modeling and rendering, the Intel was a lot more responsive and finished running models and renders a lot quicker and more efficient than the AMD PC. All specs were the same except the obvious parts

pallid coyote
keen nacelle
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Also was it 3600mhz or faster ram?

pallid coyote
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3600Mhz ram for both

pallid coyote
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AMD's not bad at all, just for what my company does, doing 3D work/rendering, etc. The Intel was the better choice

verbal geyser
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i need a pc for video editing

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and for videos

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my actual pc has an Intel I3 2nd gen ,16gb ram and RX 550

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and its strugguling

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so dam hard

stark barn
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But I like the way my pc performance is

grizzled nimbus
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giraffecard

keen nacelle
grizzled nimbus
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oh

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uhh

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girrafeics card?

lone pond
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girrafeics card

dreamy dragonBOT
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crisp ocean
keen nacelle
# crisp ocean 5950x

Nah I was asking how they compared if they tested, I know 5950x has a good bit better mc and similar single

heady turtle
# keen nacelle What about 5950x vs 11900k?

It was most likely a software that heavily favoured intel, a lot of engineering software can be like that, and some engineering software just straight up doesn't run on amd, 10850k/10900k would probs have been better tho

keen nacelle
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I love when people who know nothing about mining say that power limit is stupid for it

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Because their parents pay the energy bill and they don't care

heady turtle
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What?

crisp ocean
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Huh

heady turtle
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Power limiting a mining card is just better for the card full stop

keen nacelle
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Sorry, different server

heady turtle
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Lmao

keen nacelle
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Yep

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They also said mining on stock is perfectly fine

crisp ocean
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It’s not bad

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Also PLing on kawpow isn’t the smartest

keen nacelle
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It was eth mining

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And that's bc core is used

crisp ocean
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Then PL

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Yeah

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I have a 90 or 95% PL on kawpow

keen nacelle
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Then someone else said 65% pl is too low for a 3060 ti

heady turtle
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I run 45% pl

keen nacelle
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People talking on things they pretend to know about is just so annoying sometimes

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I run 55%

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Gives me 60.5mh/s or more depending on weather at 121w

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-502on core and +1250 on mem

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80-90 on fans

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Like 5min ago until I closed the door to my room it was 48 celsius and 502kh/w

crisp ocean
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It quite frankly could be a jt low

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My 3070 had perf decreases after 70% on eth

keen nacelle
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Yeah but every card is different

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The general rule is start at 65 and go from there

crisp ocean
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So it could be too low for them you never know

keen nacelle
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It wasn't the person with the card

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It was someone in the same channel giving input on me helping someone change settings

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Turns out 65% was right for them and they're getting 60mh/s at 120w

blissful sequoia
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Yoo I am doing a project at the uni and I have been tasked with revers engineering something and I thouhgt of a GPU since nobody has ever done it

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Think it may be too hard tho

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get like a 30 dollar gpu and try to reverse engineer it, understand the capacitors and how everything works

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I have 2 months to find a group and get it done

normal hawk
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Damn gigabyte putting the 6000 series GPU in bundles too

heady turtle
heady turtle
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Z390 bruh

blissful sequoia
heady turtle
normal hawk
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That's the cheapest one of the 3 bundles @heady turtle i always share the cheapest regardless of what it's paired with

blissful sequoia
normal hawk
heady turtle
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Might be worth the 30$ for the better mobo

blissful sequoia
heady turtle
normal hawk
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B550 Aorus Elite is the 2nd cheapest

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I think I'd go for the middle one for the ITX board despite it being the priciest there

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I'm not buying it. But that's what I'd go for it i was

heady turtle
normal hawk
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Ye for sure

static sparrow
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So a little bit nervous about my new rtx 3080 Ti. Trying to hook it up rn but I realized something

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There’s a fan on the motherboard

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I don’t believe that the rtx is gonna touch it, but it might be a tight squeeze.

heady turtle
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well first of all you should be using the top slot but otherwise it should be fine

static sparrow
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Top slot?

heady turtle
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yeah

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you have the card in the bottom slot now

static sparrow
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This slot right here?

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Sorry about the wires, having to replace the PSU.

heady turtle
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ye use that slot

cosmic bluff
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Yo freezer II nice choice saga

heady turtle
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yis freezer ii Chef_Kiss

storm urchin
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I need quick advice: I have a graphics card, sapphire r9 290 vapor-x that I was given used by my brother in-law. I don't think it was used much before he upgraded. So I think it is in good condition. I got my email this morning for ordering EVGA GeForce RTX 3060 XC Gaming, 12G-P5-3657-KR. The $399 one. Is this worth buying?

storm urchin
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What makes it better?

storm urchin
heady turtle
# storm urchin What makes it better?

It's just newer and better, you'll be able to do higher details/resolution and just a stronger gpu overall, more fps in places where youre not cpu bottlenecked

heady turtle
late haven
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Is the gtx 690 still good?

cerulean rover
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It's a very hot and inefficient card that would be pretty low end by today's standards, it'll probably perform like a 1050ti

green harness
# storm urchin What makes it better?

Considering it's a 3060 from the EVGA queue it's also one of the most affordable ways to get a 3060 and it comes with very good warranty support. Recommend using an associate's code at checkout for 3% off if you buy it

analog badge
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is shared memory something that only laptop gpus have?

toxic sinew
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iGPUs

livid idol
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Which means the GPU that's built into the processor, if you didn't know

analog badge
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my 3060m has 4gb of shared and 6gb of dedotated

dreamy dragonBOT
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livid idol
# analog badge

Yeah, task manager isn't best for GPU stats. It claims my GPU has 32GB of memory. It doesn't.

analog badge
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how much does it have?

livid idol
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It's a 3090 so it has 24gb

analog badge
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oh ok

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makses sense

livid idol
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You have 6gb dedicated, ignore the shared

analog badge
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ok

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how much would igpu have

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because it says 4gb

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but i only have 8gb

livid idol
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iGPU gets dynamically assigned some of the system memory, determined by your total memory amount

sterile zodiac
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Now I’m curious, what is the shared memory?

livid idol
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It's using your system memory instead of memory built into the GPU

sterile zodiac
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When I use davinci resolve fusion, the gpu memory goes to like 2.9 or something (max available), but when I play minecraft, it stays at like 1 gb, and the shared goes up. Is it cause it doesn’t need to be as fast?

livid idol
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The texture data has to be stored in system memory before it can be sent to the GPU

sterile zodiac
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Oh that’s kind of neat

violet axle
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does anybody happen to have a 2021 corsair Rm850x with an EVGA FTW3 3080ti setup? If so, did you have to order a 3rd pci-e cable for the gpu or did you use the 2 it comes with, plus daisy chain?

livid idol
# violet axle does anybody happen to have a 2021 corsair Rm850x with an EVGA FTW3 3080ti setup...

I have the RM850x with a 3090, does that count?
Officially you'll want to use 3 separate cables, but it also depends on your power limit. If you're 400W or less it's probably ok to use daisy chain.
The official spec lists the max at 150W but the cables are pretty overbuilt these days and can tolerate about 200W before they get uncomfortably hot. 375W - 75 (pci slot power) / 3 = 100W per 8 pin. In theory one cable would be fine for 2 ports.

violet axle
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awesome! thanks so much for the quick response. I was trying to read up on it a bit but it seemed like a rabbit hole i didnt wanna go down lol so figured id ask someone with that setup. i'm getting my 3080 tomorrow and i wanted to make sure it would be ok to run like that.

livid idol
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I can double check your power limit if you don't know it

violet axle
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the general consensus on the matter seemed to be its not ok to do it but its ok to do it but you can kinda do it but you might fry something but it should be safe but you should use independent so on and so forth lol

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sure how do we do that

livid idol
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I'll look it up on the database, one sec

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400W default, 450W max overclock

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You'll want 3 cables

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Unless you want to leave it at stock power or lower, and just make sure the cable doesn't melt when you're testing it

violet axle
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i wasnt planning on overclocking. pretty sure im leaving it stock.

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where did you get a 3rd pci-e cable?

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this psu only came with 2

livid idol
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You can buy it from corsair

violet axle
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and 3 4+4 cables for some reason

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never seen a mobo that needs more than 2

livid idol
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Or they might just give you one if you complain to support

violet axle
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hmm i might have to do that

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not much choice. says its not available on the corsair website

solemn panther
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šŸ‘€

livid idol
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There's like 3 different versions of that same cable, and only one works without exploding

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I saw the link don't worry

violet axle
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i tried to share the link but it keeps disappearing

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oh ok lol

livid idol
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I believe it is the type 4 but let me double check

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I can see deleted stuff in logs

violet axle
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pretty sure thats the one. i remember seeing on the back of the psu it said only use type 4 connectors

livid idol
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Mobile is being a pain so I'll check on my pc unless someone beats me to it

odd solar
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sorry for ping forgot to turn it off

violet axle
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yeah i wasnt looking to overclock mine. I ordered a 3080ti tho

livid idol
odd solar
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hmm ig..

livid idol
odd solar
odd solar
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wht abt csgo. if there was no cpu bottleneck how much would 3090 get.. at 4k ULTRA?

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*approx

livid idol
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I don't play that one personally so I'll look up a couple people that do

vital oriole
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csgo will always be a bottleneck for cpu

odd solar
odd solar
vital oriole
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it's not realistic question

odd solar
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so? im being curious

vital oriole
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im just saying

livid idol
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8k max settings with 11900k loads the 3090 98% and gets 100-130 fps

odd solar
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ok wtv

keen nacelle
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As in 2k vs 4k vs 8k

odd solar
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i think 8k is FOUR times 4k

keen nacelle
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Really? Wow

livid idol
odd solar
keen nacelle
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I didn't think it'd be that simple wow

livid idol
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It's a rough estimate , it's really like 3.8x or something

odd solar
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3.8x of 4k?

keen nacelle
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What about 1080p vs 1440p?

livid idol
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Especially since everyone's definition of 4k is different

odd solar
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2160p

keen nacelle
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2000 something pixels no?

solemn panther
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2160

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Vertical

keen nacelle
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Ah I was gonna say 2060

livid idol
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1920x1080=2,073,600

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2560x1440=3,686,400

keen nacelle
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Wow

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So is that as simple as just 1440p is 1.6 (about)x more demanding?

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Or would it be 2.6

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Wait

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I'm tired sorry

livid idol
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3840x2160 (4k)=8,294,400

odd solar
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1.6

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so 4k=4times 1080p

livid idol
keen nacelle
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Didn't think it'd be that simple

odd solar
keen nacelle
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So for example, if i get 200fps on 1080, I'd get 160on 1440p (assuming same load and everything)

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?

vital oriole
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4k isn't really 4 times 1080p

livid idol
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Now for 8k... 7680x4320=33,177,600

odd solar
livid idol
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It's that many more pixels but that's not the only factor

odd solar
odd solar
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@keen nacelle are u there?

keen nacelle
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Yeah

keen nacelle
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Wym

vital oriole
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it's double the res of 4k, if we don't count pixels

livid idol
vital oriole
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but pixels, i guess

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also ^

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once vram fills up the perf hit is hard

odd solar
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24 gigs seems more than enough

livid idol
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Way more than enough

vital oriole
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8 on 3060ti sure isn't, just to add

keen nacelle
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I'm asking bc my bday is in a couple days and I'm thinking of upgrading to 1440p 144hz, but I like getting high frames in warzonr and cold war

odd solar
vital oriole
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that's why it has same perf in 4k as 3070

livid idol
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That 8k max cs:go I looked at was using 8.6GB

vital oriole
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3070 has 8 gigs vram too

keen nacelle
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Yeah and 2080 ti beats 3070 at 4k

vital oriole
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1440p on 3060ti should be easy, with that aside

odd solar
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idk m8 truebacca wanted to know dat

livid idol
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Cyberpunk 2077 4k native max settings uses 11.8GB vram

cosmic bluff
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Ive yet to run cyberpunk but will surely test it

odd solar
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higher res also loads higher quality texture pax right?

livid idol
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It depends on the game

odd solar
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umm forza horizon 4?

livid idol
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Some games have textures that max at like 2048x2048

vital oriole
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higher res means more pixels to load

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so it's heavier

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but some games does do that i think

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most just stick with texture settings

odd solar
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hmm

cosmic bluff
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Yeah if you increase res on a limited texture you wont see much of a difference unless your monitor also supports it but still wont see better graphics

livid idol
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In cases like that where the texture size is smaller than the resolution it draws the lower res object in the higher res world

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Forza Horizon 4 has an optional 4k texture pack, so if you set to 8k it'll still be 4k textures

odd solar
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like kryssp.. sometimes when he runs 4k on his 1440p monitor.. he sez the road looks soo sharp(i can tell im on a 720p monitor XD)

livid idol
odd solar
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wow..

livid idol
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You just enable DSR and set smoothness where you want

odd solar
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hey can u head over to the gaming section once falcie?

livid idol
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Sure, why?

dreamy dragonBOT
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unborn frost
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can anyone give some adive on whether or not to get a power color hellhound 2x fans 6600XT or a gigabyte 3 fans windforce 3060, both are priced at 459.99$ ?

rustic pulsar
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6600xt has better overall performance but 3060 has better ray tracing, if you plan to lots play game’s that have ray tracing, get the 3060, or not, get the 6600xt

timid narwhal
unborn frost
timid narwhal
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6600xt and 3060 are not cards you play with raytracing on

unborn frost
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ok. is dlss widely supported ?

dark dragon
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Which is the best graphic cards you guys can suggest for playing FORTNITE

unborn frost
heady turtle
heady turtle
heady turtle
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Wether it's a good choice or not that's a completely different question lol

heady turtle
# dark dragon could u elaborate?

Well it depends how much you can spend on the graphics card, of course the most powerful gaming graphics card will be the best for gaming

dark dragon
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ya ok got ur point

cerulean rover
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FSR is the more accessible upscaling tech, but not widely adopted in usage

timid narwhal
dark dragon
pallid coyote
heady turtle
dark dragon
heady turtle
dark dragon
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yup

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indeed

heady turtle
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You live in the us or are you converting?

dark dragon
heady turtle
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You're in the us, okay, then yeah a 3080 ti or 3090

dark dragon
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n combine it with i9 11900k

heady turtle
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Nono

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If you want to go intel get a 10850k/10900k

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But 5900x/5950x is what you should be pairing it with

cerulean rover
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5900x neat

heady turtle
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5950x if you're an absolute power user

dark dragon
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what would u prefer
if u were in my place

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intel or amd

heady turtle
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I'd go 5900x

dark dragon
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i personally was planning to go with intel

heady turtle
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If you're going intel don't go 11900k anyway

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Go 10900k/10850k

dark dragon
heady turtle
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But 5900x is better unless you're really into overclocking

heady turtle
robust harbor
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Thats an overkill pc just for fortnite

heady turtle
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Only 8c still

heady turtle
dark dragon
dark dragon
pallid coyote
heady turtle
robust harbor
heady turtle
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But 5900x has 12 cores and they more powerful

pallid coyote
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And they're on sale right now as well

dark dragon
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n what abt 5950x

heady turtle
# dark dragon n what abt 5950x

16 cores but in gaming they're slightly slower than the 5900x, depends on the game tho, 16 cores is very overkill unless you do a crap tun of multi tasking

keen nacelle
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^^

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5900x much more worth it if you're just gaming

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And what resolution are you going to use?

pallid coyote
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Agreed, the most expensive and 'best' doesn't mean the best value and performance for gaming. The top end stuff are geared towards multitasking

heady turtle
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Unless you want to overclock as a hobby, get a 5900x, if you're an extreme multi tasker, get a 5950x but imo just get a 5900x

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And if you want to overclock as a hobby, get a 10850k or 10900k

dark dragon
keen nacelle
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5900x can still do multi tasking very well anyways

keen nacelle
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Especially for fortnite

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You could use the lowest 30 series and easily get max settings in fortnite

heady turtle
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Ehh well that's debatable

keen nacelle
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If all you do is fn you'll use maybe 50% of your pcs power

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If that

pallid coyote
# dark dragon so what you mean is that the best performance components required for gaming are...

The most expensive one doesn't mean the 'best', tbh. Since the best varies depending on what you want. Besides, most people buy the best just to flex and say that they have it. It's really good for multi tasking sure but so is the 5900x. Most people who get the 5950x are production workers like engineers or those that use it for video, music editing. For gaming, go with the 5900x like Pato recommends or if you want to OC, then the 10850K or 10900K

dark dragon
keen nacelle
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Getting better performance

pallid coyote
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Performance

keen nacelle
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You basically give it more voltage which let's it perform better (afaik)

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Don't quote me on that, I don't oc really

dark dragon
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is it really needed ?

keen nacelle
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No

dark dragon
keen nacelle
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Especially in your case

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Most people either do it to get a high score in benchmark comparisons or in lieu of upgrading cpu

heady turtle
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Well at least cpu overclocking

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If you go ryzen you'll want to turn on precision boost overdrive (pbo)

keen nacelle
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Gpu ocing is easier and more beneficial for gaming (for the most part)

dark dragon
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actually i am a little new to these things

heady turtle
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And graphics card overclocks are worth it

dark dragon
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i have just started doing some research

pallid coyote
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You OC for benchmarks or to see how much you can push your rig to its limits along with adding benefits to gaming

cerulean rover
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graphics overclocks depends

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ampere won't give you that much

keen nacelle
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With a 3090 you won't need to oc lol

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Or a 5900x

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Or an i9 10th gen lmao

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Basically any cpu you'll get

pallid coyote
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Graphic overclocks are def worth it especially with Turing and older

dark dragon
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so cpu overclocking is not necessary(just optional)
but gpu overclocking is required or u could say worth it

cerulean rover
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neither are required

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I say ampere gpu oc won't do too much unless you know what you're doing

pallid coyote
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Not required but def well worth it for the performance gains on the GPU

keen nacelle
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For your budget you'll have top of the line parts

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You won't see any benefit from ocing, not for a few years

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Bc you can run games at max settings easily without oxijg

dark dragon
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so the best combination would be a 5900x with 3090

heady turtle
dark dragon
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u guys have changed my mind from intel to amdšŸ˜‚šŸ˜‚

dark dragon
#

so how do u select the motherboard??

heady turtle
#

Why did i select the motherboard?

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What do you mean?

dark dragon
heady turtle
dark dragon
heady turtle
dark dragon
#

i think u didn't get my question

heady turtle
#

How did i choose that motherboard for example?

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Is it?

dark dragon
#

ya

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normally

heady turtle
#

It's a good motherboard with good power delivery

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And has wi-fi

umbral briar
#

oh wrong channel

dark dragon
#

what is the purpose of a threadripper cpu

umbral briar
#

whats the best waterblock for a 3090?

heady turtle
umbral briar
#

its a workstation

heady turtle
umbral briar
#

rog strix

heady turtle
#

I would leave on air but 1 sec

umbral briar
#

ek x rog came out months after i got my 3090 for retail

#

im just trying to see the viability of doing so

heady turtle
#

I would still leave it air cooled but if you wanna do a custom loop up to you

umbral briar
#

it does run hot at times but it doesnt throttle which is fine

heady turtle
#

This should do

#
#

Or this

umbral briar
#

hmmm

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i think im gonna stick with air cooling for now

heady turtle
umbral briar
#

ill just upgrade my mobo, case, and ram

heady turtle
#

Very nice card already

umbral briar
#

i mean its top tier in terms of cooling

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i dont think dropping my regular temps to just a few degrees for a few hundred bucks wont be economical

umbral briar
umbral briar
#

compared to top tier builds, it performs just as well

dark dragon
umbral briar
#

i mean not at the same time

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my day job is doing renders of buildings for clients

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i play video games during my spare time

dark dragon
#

ohh ok

umbral briar
#

although possible, i would blow up my pc if did both at the same time

dark dragon
#

can u share a pic of your pc if its okay with you

umbral briar
#

im actually travelling rn so i dont have pics of it

umbral briar
#

its running 24/7 since i access it from my laptop when im away

dark dragon
umbral briar
#

remote desktop connection

dark dragon
#

ohh ya ok

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is there any difference in brand of gpu
Like is there any difference in evga 3090 and rog strix 3090

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difference in performance?

umbral briar
#

cooling

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only difference is the cooling since both of them perform similarly

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i was comparing my 3090 to my coworkers evga 3090 and there wasnt any difference

dark dragon
#

coz there is a price difference of a 1000usd

dreamy dragonBOT
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heady turtle
dark dragon
#

ok

pallid coyote
dark dragon
#

ok so should i go with evga 3090

vital oriole
#

evga 3090 somehow has bad soldering problem, if you play new world, that amazon game it'll die

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but that's a problem of only one game

heady turtle
heady turtle
#

Ftw3 if not much more

dark dragon
#

ok

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i liked the build u sent me @heady turtle

heady turtle
#

Ty

dark dragon
#

why isn't it allowing me to replace it with intel cpu

vital oriole
#

hm?

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why you want intel exactly?

#

something like 5900x beats 11900k in value all day

timid narwhal
dark dragon
vital oriole
#

5900x has more cores even iirc

dark dragon
#

what is mt btw?

timid narwhal
vital oriole
#

multi thread

dark dragon
#

ok

umbral briar
#

price to performance, go for amd

timid narwhal
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vital oriole
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i9 11900k has 8c/16t, is hungry and hot

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5900x has 12c/24t

dark dragon
#

although i am comparing i9 10900k vs ryzen 9 5900x

vital oriole
#

well that's even sadder for single core

timid narwhal
vital oriole
#

^

umbral briar
#

amd zen 3 eats less power and runs smoother

vital oriole
#

5900x is hungry tho

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but not as bad as 11900k

#

or as hot

umbral briar
#

i mean yeah compared to 11th gen

heady turtle
umbral briar
#

chipset

dark dragon
#

ok so u'll would go with 5900x rather than 10th or 11th gen

dark dragon
heady turtle
vital oriole
#

5900x for sure

#

intel is outta question for i9

umbral briar
#

if possible, 5950x

vital oriole
#

eh

#

5950x loses in gaming

umbral briar
#

welp

keen nacelle
umbral briar
#

didnt know that

timid narwhal
vital oriole
#

5950x is crossing into workstation tier

heady turtle
umbral briar
#

im gonna order that wrx80 motherboard by asus

vital oriole
#

5950x is workstation cpu

#

so similar gaming to 5900x

heady turtle
vital oriole
#

but geared for workstation stuff

dark dragon
#

so in gaming 5900x is better, right?

heady turtle
#

Ye slightly better than 5950x

timid narwhal
#

5900x is best all rounder at the top of the CPU mountain

vital oriole
#

yeah, you don't need those many cores too

keen nacelle
vital oriole
#

5900x would be max id go for games

#

11600k isn't cheap lel

keen nacelle
#

I know

vital oriole
#

same price, or higher than 5600x atm

keen nacelle
#

Thought it was 270 on best buy?

vital oriole
#

5600x can be 250 sometimes

dark dragon
#

so i should go with 5900x combined with 3090

vital oriole
#

At what res do you want to game at?

#

Also even if it's 4k, 3080ti is better spent on

keen nacelle
#

They have a 5k budget

#

So

vital oriole
#

hmm

timid narwhal
vital oriole
#

fine then

#

3090 it is

keen nacelle
#

Lel

vital oriole
#

1000w psu required kek

#

but easy cause 5k

keen nacelle
#

Pato made a parts list

vital oriole
#

ye

umbral briar
#

a friend of mine is doing well with 850w

vital oriole
#

850w

#

yikes

#

3090 has spikes as high as 400-500w

#

it could pop eventually

timid narwhal
heady turtle
umbral briar
#

its a corsair psu not a gigabyte one

keen nacelle
#

Interesting

vital oriole
#

still

#

850w isn't safe for 3090

keen nacelle
#

And I meant 15% over 11400

heady turtle
vital oriole
#

it has a risk to pop if it spikes enough

#

any 850w units will pop with 3090

#

it's a matter of time

dark dragon
heady turtle
vital oriole
#

^

keen nacelle
#

I mean supposedly 3090super is coming out soon

vital oriole
#

like

umbral briar
#

thats what i told him

keen nacelle
#

I wonder if they'll make 3080 super

vital oriole
#

if you already have money for 3090

#

why would you forget on psu

umbral briar
#

but hes been using it for close to a year now

heady turtle
vital oriole
#

damn

keen nacelle
dark dragon
heady turtle
keen nacelle
#

I've mostly been seeing amd cpus currently

vital oriole
dark dragon
#

its 1000w

vital oriole
#

lel

dark dragon
#

sry

umbral briar
#

so my total budget for my pc upgrade is around $1500 which includes case, mobo, storage

heady turtle
umbral briar
#

i might be getting the corsair 5000d, a 980 pro for case and storage

dark dragon
#

evga 3090 ?

timid narwhal
heady turtle
timid narwhal
dark dragon
dark dragon
vital oriole
#

ye

umbral briar
#

try going for the rog or evga 3090

heady turtle
dark dragon
#

currently the build costs 4666 acc to the site

heady turtle
heady turtle
umbral briar
#

i might also get noctua fans

dark dragon
heady turtle
vital oriole
#

5000d needs fans to be good stock

#

but seems you're getting em anyway

#

it doesn't matter

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5000d airflow that is

heady turtle
vital oriole
#

the normal 5000d is eh

umbral briar
#

the airflow one is at the top of my list

timid narwhal
dark dragon
umbral briar
#

the next one is the lancool or the 011d

heady turtle
timid narwhal
#

011 D is for custom water blocks, imho

heady turtle
umbral briar
heady turtle
dark dragon
heady turtle
umbral briar
#

cheaper and comes in a 3pack

timid narwhal
heady turtle
#

@dark dragon there is no point for you getting a 3090 tho tbh

#

Cuz for gaming 3080 ti is just as good tbh

dark dragon
#

but thats just what the site is saying

heady turtle
dark dragon
#

yeah

#

what abt water cooling

#

is it preferred?

keen nacelle
#

P12 pwm

#

Wait

#

Nvm

timid narwhal
umbral briar
#

i was thinking of getting an aio but i dont if it would be supported

keen nacelle
#

Ignore that in stupid

#

My memory sucks lol

umbral briar
#

like some aios claim that they fit threadrippers

keen nacelle
#

I also replace my heatsibk which is what lowered my Temps that much lmao

heady turtle
heady turtle
umbral briar
#

most of the aios compatible for the tr doesnt cover the ihs but covers the die

dark dragon
heady turtle
vital oriole
#

covering the die is fine

#

but it would look naked i guess

umbral briar
#

its just weird for me that the ihs wont be covered

dusty nova
#

3060 Ti.

keen nacelle
dusty nova
keen nacelle
#

Yes?

cerulean rover
#

U14s tr4

keen nacelle
#

We're in a shortage

#

It's to be expected

cerulean rover
#

There's also AIOs with coldplate for TR

#

Pretty sure there's a liqtech 3 now

dreamy dragonBOT
#
Marvelxus#6650 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

keen nacelle
#

L bot

#

I dont understand why people send bots to swear and stuff

#

It makes no sense

#

What do you gain?

vital oriole
#

Which I never get

pallid coyote
livid idol
#

They try to flood the server with spam messages pinging everyone but they get blocked pretty quick

keen nacelle
#

Ah

violet axle
#

last question about the cables actually..i have some type 3 cables from another manufacturer. does that matter? pinout should be the same?

livid idol
#

No it has to be corsair cables, because they have resistors in line and most other brands don't

violet axle
#

got it. thanks so much again!

livid idol
#

np

dreamy dragonBOT
#
Robb#5806 has been warned

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fair arrow
#

@livid idol what would be a good price for 3060ti

livid idol
#

About $500-600

heady turtle
#

400-650 imo

#

400 ideally xD

#

Look at 3070s too

livid idol
#

400 if you can get FE

fair arrow
#

whats FE

heady turtle
#

That would be Chef_Kiss

#

Founders edition

livid idol
#

Founders edition

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Best buy only

heady turtle
#

Depends on country but yeah us and ca bb only

livid idol
#

They have a contract with nvidia to charge exactly $400 and no more

fair arrow
#

ohhh thats nice

#

how hard is it to get one

heady turtle
#

3060 ti's

#

Rare

livid idol
#

It can take a month or two

#

Check out the buying guide in the pins for tips

fair arrow
#

ok thank you

#

this?

heady turtle
#

Nope it's called "founders edition"

livid idol
#

No that's the lower model 3060, you want 3060 ti

heady turtle
#

Also that lol

fair arrow
#

hmm

heady turtle
#

But any 3060 ti/3070 if lucky

#

Technically you could get 3070 ti too(if they actually exist)

livid idol
fair arrow
#

so is the 100$ difference from 3060 ti/3070 worth it

heady turtle
#

You get what you can

livid idol
#

It depends what resolution you play at also

#

1080p? probably not

#

1440 or higher? yes

heady turtle
#

There's about a 10% perf diff from 3060 ti to 3070

fair arrow
#

hmm

#

currently im on 1080p but i would also like vr ability, would 3070 worth it then

livid idol
#

Both will be good for VR but 3070 will get higher fps

fair arrow
#

is there any video or link that could show this

livid idol
fair arrow
#

thank you very much

#

thats crazy how some gpu's are 1200$+

livid idol
#

Yeah that's the resale market mostly. Scalpers buying them and selling for 2-3x purchase price

#

They're the scum of the earth and they need to go back to Jordans

fair arrow
#

lol

#

so the market is going like that cuz covid stuff?

livid idol
#

Covid is only one part of this perfect storm that hit

#

We were already reaching manufacturing limits

fair arrow
#

when would it go back to normal tho?

livid idol
#

New production facilities come online starting 2023-2024

fair arrow
#

aw heck nah

#

im not waiting that long lol

fair arrow
livid idol
#

Samsung's facility comes online late 2023 and TSMC is saying 2024

#

They make a lot of the chips in the world

fair arrow
#

ah ur quite informed

#

very cool thanks

livid idol
#

It's my job to be informed, I work in tech lol

fair arrow
#

that would make sense

#

so i have my cpu and ram, next is gonna be gpu and then psu/motherboard?

livid idol
#

You might end up with a motherboard that was bundled with a GPU. If it's something like the Aorus Elite those ones aren't bad.

fair arrow
#

yea ive seen those sometimes

heady turtle
keen nacelle
acoustic rain
#

^

dreamy dragonBOT
#
Brushn1k Sells#7043 has been warned

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bold condor
#

imagine

livid idol
#

That's a fairly good model too

normal hawk
#

Never had an MSI GPU i think

solemn panther
#

i would do it since i got my 3080ti around the same price

#

ftw3 ultra

#

not a big jump from MSRP

normal hawk
#

Asus, powercolor, gigabyte, ASRock, ZOTAC, are the only ones I've had i think.

normal hawk
normal hawk
solemn panther
normal hawk
#

True

heady turtle
solemn panther
#

its still bad but what can you do....its not as bad as EBay

heady turtle
#

It's around scalper price for 80 ti

solemn panther
#

welp....your money your choice

normal hawk
#

Im holding out still. šŸ¤·ā€ā™‚ļø I have a 3080 and 3090 so if i get another it's gotta be a good deal. I'm on my way home soon so that opens more options besides Newegg

solemn panther
#

you could check out OG10K

#

great family based business with cards at basically MSRP

#

thats how i got my card

hot folio
#

What the MSRP of an Aorus master 6800xt

hallow shore
runic crypt
#

From what I saw above, we're confirmed not to escape the shortage until 2023-24, correct?

heady turtle
#

Ehh well there's no telling but probs

#

Mb late 2022 but ĀÆ_(惄)_/ĀÆ

livid idol
#

That's when the new facilities come online but if demand lets up before then it might help

#

Not likely that demand will fall enough to make a difference but we can hope

normal hawk
#

So there are several 3080 ti bundles.

MSI Venus, gaming, gigabyte gaming, vision, aorus, aorus Waterforce, Asus rog strix.

hot folio
#

Eww ventus

livid idol
#

Eww Aorus

hot folio
#

Aorus can be nice tho

#

Once you swap thermal pads

livid idol
#

My dual 8 pin 3090 disagrees

hot folio
#

What’s so bad about it?

livid idol
#

350W power limit

#

390W max OC limit

#

Plus if you flash a vbios with a higher limit it won't matter because it only has 2 of the usual 3 connectors

hot folio
#

Ok yeah that’s pretty bad

keen nacelle
livid idol
#

Not in this case

keen nacelle
#

Idk if it was this server but I saw someone modding a 710 with an 8pin

#

Ah

#

730 maybe?

livid idol
#

It is physically missing the third 8 pin solder point

keen nacelle
#

Ohh

#

And is that just your card or just it being an awful aib

livid idol
#

For me to increase my power budget I need to do some hard modding

#

It's just Gigabyte being Gigabyte

keen nacelle
#

Oof

livid idol
#

Shunt modding here I come...

keen nacelle
#

Question falcie

#

How would a 3600 and 3080 do at 1440p?

#

I could oc the 3600

livid idol
#

Obvious answer is it depends on the game

keen nacelle
#

Warzone ig? Most demanding game I currently play

livid idol
#

In general, you'd probably have a cpu bottleneck more than gpu

keen nacelle
#

Yeah I figured

#

My bday is Monday and I'm thinking about trading to a 3080, since Mines non lhr and the founders card is going for 1300$ pretty often on ebay

#

And lhr 3080s go for like 1500 easily

#

Often*

#

So I'm debating trading up and just using my 1440p 75hz monitor

lone pond
#

Thank you Newegg

livid idol
#

That price hurts, but at least you have a chance at a gpu

vital oriole
#

ye

barren junco
#

While I'm rooting for team red, is it even worth getting a Radeon card?

#

I've heard bad things about them but their performance looks great

keen nacelle
#

Their newer cards are pretty solid

#

While it's not for me a lot of people say their 6000 series is worth it

mortal leaf
#

did you win

livid idol
lone pond
mortal leaf
#

congrat man

lone pond
#

At least mine I own and has the product as well as a 3 year warranty

barren junco
cosmic bluff
crisp moth
#

are all gpu's still really hard to get?

dark dragon
#

How do you determine the power supply u need to attach
like people use an 850W power supply for an 5900x+3090 pc

#

but some people were telling me to go for a 1000W power supply

keen nacelle
#

I think up to 500w

#

You always want to go with more than you'd think

#

Just to keep the pc safe

#

Psu is the last thing you want to cheap out on

keen nacelle
crisp moth
keen nacelle
#

There's ways

#

But consistently and quickly its difficult

crisp moth
#

I'm not looking to buy in bulk

#

I just want to upgrade my gpu

keen nacelle
#

Yeah I know

#

What gpu do you have, what do you want, and what's the budget?

crisp moth
#

2060 super 800 3080/6800

keen nacelle
#

Yeah currently that won't happen

#

I'd wait it out

crisp moth
#

figured

keen nacelle
#

With any luck you could find a lhr 3080 for around 1200

crisp moth
#

ain't happening

keen nacelle
#

But anything below that would have to be from an original retailer

crisp moth
#

how are scalpers getting gpu's?

keen nacelle
#

Bots, having no life

#

Pre orders

crisp moth
#

was about to say scripts

keen nacelle
#

Bulk buying

crisp moth
#

WAIT theres preorders?

keen nacelle
#

Evga queue, Antonline I think can preorder

#

Or whatever it's called

crisp moth
#

looking at evga now

keen nacelle
#

I'm not sure if evga queue is open 100% of the time

crisp moth
#

they have auto notify

keen nacelle
#

For some queues I think they open at certain times for sign ups

#

Zotac might do it that way but they're scalping anyways

crisp moth
#

you would think people using bots to scalp gpu's would get in some sort of trouble

#

if detected

keen nacelle
#

I wish

#

Best buy is doing in person drops now

#

So you could keep an eye on those

crisp moth
#

in person drops?

#

oh

keen nacelle
#

Only FE though, and FE cards (other than 3080 ti and 3070 ti) are non lhr, so miners love those too

#

And scalpers

crisp moth
#

bruh

keen nacelle
#

Most people wait for hours in line for a chance at getting one

crisp moth
#

alright so that's a lost cause

keen nacelle
#

Well

#

Maybe not, just depends on your dedication and schedule

crisp moth
#

also did they discontinue the 2060 super?

#

yea

keen nacelle
#

Yeah they don't produce gpus other than the current series afaik

#

They might for rmas

crisp moth
#

huh

#

and they are still super behind

keen nacelle
#

But idt they make more, there might be some still in stock but

#

Wdym?

crisp moth
#

they are still selling out like crazy

keen nacelle
#

The ones being sold aren't new

#

Well yeah ofc

crisp moth
#

yea

keen nacelle
#

But 20 series isn't new

#

It's not old

crisp moth
#

yes

keen nacelle
#

But it isn't the newest series

crisp moth
#

are the 20 series getting scalped as well?

keen nacelle
#

So they discontinue it from new manufacturing

crisp moth
#

like are people reselling them for a astonishing price because everything else is sold out

keen nacelle
#

Yeah

#

2060supers prolly going for up to 600 on ebay, maybe 550

crisp moth
#

I'm seeing 850 on newegg currently haven't checked ebay

keen nacelle
#

Dony check newegg or Amazon

#

No new retailers are good for that

crisp moth
#

oh

#

gotcha

keen nacelle
#

Sold listing on eBay is the most accurate

#

Stockx sometimes too

covert token
#

are people even able to buy gpus at msrp?

crisp moth
#

oh my 3080 prices on ebay are very interesting

normal hawk
covert token
keen nacelle
mortal leaf
normal hawk
#

What's your budget? @covert token there are plenty of 3080 ti's close to MSRP (although you do have to buy them in bundles)

dark dragon
#

what is msrp?

crisp moth
#

manufactuers suggested retail price

normal hawk
#

MSRP is the price set by the manufacturer

crisp moth
#

^

dark dragon
#

ohh ok

mortal leaf
dark dragon
#

šŸ˜‚šŸ˜‚

crisp moth
#

how is microcenter btw? never been

viral agate
#

I just got a new GPU, there’s a white LED light near the power cable connectors on the GPU. Does that light mean anything?

vital oriole
#

Mine has that too

#

If it doesn't the light is off

viral agate
dark dragon
#

my cousin just bought a 3090 for 1500usd

#

🤯🤯

keen nacelle
dark dragon
#

ik

#

i told him to find one for me toošŸ˜‚šŸ˜‚

keen nacelle
#

I've seen a couple recently (last few days) for 1700-1900

neat trellis
#

where

#

ive been campin outside micro center for the past week

#

and still see empty racks

#

im losing my marbles

heady turtle
#

Call the mc and ask them when they restock

#

If you live near a best buy, hope they do the in person drops too

dark dragon
lone pond
#

i bought a gtx 1080ti hybrid yesterday and it was super hot

#

im talking around 90 celsius

#

any idea of what is going on?

#

because i think hybrid shouldnt be this hot