graphics-cards

[heady turtle]

Yeah idk places in Australia that's why it's not listed

[toxic hamlet]

Mm

25 mill peopke just doesn't cut it

[vital pivot]

@lone pond sure it is. Buy a used laptop. Since that’s the only device that used that gpu

[heady turtle]

What no lol i just don't know of any shops their, i only wrote what i knew about in that guide

[toxic hamlet]

Okey

[heady turtle]

If you know of any shops, i will add it to the list

[toxic hamlet]

All i know is that techfast has good value prebuilts, but their only online, and apparently you can bring the price down a bit on jb hifi pcs, cept they only care about what has cpu and gpu on it

So other things are secondary in quality

[heady turtle]

Right

[molten sage]

i need a 3090

to give to my friend

only because it won't fit in his pc

[cerulean rover]

for overseas territories, it's probably better we leave it to them to know the local shops better than we do :p

if 3090 too big, you could just buy a bigger case

[sacred finch]

Anyone try order from this

Oh it's not allowed to send

[pallid coyote]

You have to level up, first

At level 3, you should be able to post pictures and links

[wicked hound]

You talking about US or CAN? If US did that too then that be sad

[brisk flame]

US did that too

i got two 3080s out of it so

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[wicked hound]

Oof, instore only super dumb most of the time tbf

[brisk flame]

yeah, esp with only 50 locations across the country

[wicked hound]

only like 21 locations for CAN

[brisk flame]

ooof

[wicked hound]

I can only buy from NE (sadly pretty high price in CAN) or AMD. All other CAN retailers be instore only

[brisk flame]

go camping

[wicked hound]

Also B&H I guess too, but they be waitlist

[pallid coyote]

Best Buy has made it instore only for GPUs a month or two ago.

People have been camping outside of their respective BB stores

[wicked hound]

Is a 1.5hr - 2hr drive per way for closest store that actually sells GPUs

[cerulean rover]

just happen to cross the border into New York ;)
||For legal reasons, this is a joke||

[brisk flame]

well same, but ive done it twice

i think its technically 1.33

1hr 20 mins

[wicked hound]

I know US BB went semi instore only while back, but thought they were still semi online

[brisk flame]

for the founders

rest of the cards still online

[wicked hound]

Ah, CAN BB is 100% instore

[brisk flame]

but i dont think they do the goofy "please wait for the yellow button that never turns yellow" scam

they just go up for sale

[wicked hound]

Who knew yellow would be such a special color

[pallid coyote]

They're all instores now. They killed off any online shopping with GPUs

[hot folio]

Is it just me or did the techie yellow become more yellowish

[heady turtle]

Think just you

[wary helm]

i might actually have a chance at getting one now

[spare relic]

👀

rip

[pallid coyote]

Try it out, I don't have time for that but if I did, I would

[dreamy dragon]

bhlizy#9990 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

[velvet nebula]

hey yall, so i hear theres a bestbuy restock tomorrow, but like how do we know which cards specifically are going to be restocked, or is it just guess and hope

[heady turtle]

From the in person drops they've done so far, there's usually some article on pcmag or something that has details

[wary helm]

what time is it

and what graphics card are they restocking

[gilded viper]

Would a GTX 1660 super be good for VR? i'll be using a link cable with the quest 2

[normal hawk]

What game

[gilded viper]

Blades and sorcery, beat saber

Mainly BnS

[normal hawk]

Blades and sorcery is iffy cause it's coding isn't the best. But beat saber should be fine

If you aren't modding it. I think it'll be okay/good but not great

[gilded viper]

Alright i'll probably save up for a 3070 or so

[lunar isle]

yo

[real gulch]

Can anyone give me advice for my build bc im kinda in a risky corner rn

[heady turtle]

Shoot your question

[real gulch]

Ok so rn im looking at a rx 580 sapphire nitro 8gb for 225 BUT its from ebay and im being told thats too much and idk what a better safer alt is if there is one

[spare relic]

gtx 980

[real gulch]

From where tho?

[spare relic]

ebay probably

[real gulch]

Its abt the same price with less performance

[cosmic bluff]

I used to have a regular 1660 and ran vr both quest 1 and 2 on both games with minimal issues just make sure you have 16gb of ram and run the headsets a little lower resolution through the steamvr settings a bit to smooth the experience out

[patent summit]

I’ve got a question about upgrading a GPU, I have a 760ti and I just need something better. Anyone have a suggestion?

[cerulean rover]

What's the budget

[runic crypt]

it arrived!

[patent summit]

I would like to be around 700 but 800 if it’s worth the money

[keen nacelle]

Ideally you'd get a 3070 or 3070 ti, but if you haven't seen, the market is screwed

[rustic pulsar]

Then go for a 2060

Used

[keen nacelle]

Thats a bit lower than the price of a lhr 3060 ti

[keen nacelle]

Wtf?

[rustic pulsar]

2060s are great 1080p card

[keen nacelle]

Also what cpu do you have?

[patent summit]

Ryzen 5 5600x

[keen nacelle]

Oh cool

I'd aim for a 2080s or lhr 3060 ti or better, if you're fine with waiting you could try for a 3070 or 3070 ti at msrp

[patent summit]

How would I go about getting a 3060 at a reasonable price rn

[keen nacelle]

Best buy drops, newegg shuffle, restock discords

[heady turtle]

3070/ti, or a 3080 fe if you're v lucky, rx 6800/6800xt if lucky also

[keen nacelle]

Isn't 3080 fe 800 before tax?

Or 700?

[heady turtle]

700

[keen nacelle]

Oh

I haven't paid much attention to msrps lately

I wonder why

[patent summit]

So I’ve heard Best Buy drops on Tuesdays is that true?

[brisk flame]

nope

[keen nacelle]

They do in person drops now for FE cards

If you're lucky enough to be near one that does them

You could also try micro center if you're near one, but you'd have to be pretty lucky

[patent summit]

Lucky to get a card or lucky to be near one

Or both

[keen nacelle]

Yes

Well

More so the card, if you're in a populated state/County/whatever you're probably within an hour of one

My nearest is 3 hours away

[patent summit]

I’m within 30 minutes of one apparently

[keen nacelle]

Im unsure when they restock

Anyone know?

[woven wagon]

What would be a good graphics card upgrade for up to $300.

[cloud pewter]

rn

is not the time to upgrade gpus

[cinder pebble]

Wait until the market resaturates

its happening, albeit slowly

[toxic hamlet]

if you want a gpu now, either you dont have one and your willing to shell out, or you just happen to have come by a large amount of money.

[tulip owl]

Bro, where the 3060ti be at??

I’m just a child wanting to play pc games, but my parents won’t shill out 800 bucks for a 3060 ti

[vital oriole]

800 for one is still a lot of moneh

[tulip owl]

Yeah

[keen nacelle]

I paid for my own pc... I'm 15

[cosmic bluff]

I paid for both of my pcs one worth 700 and other worth 3600 and yeah...

[analog badge]

is rtx 3060m good?

[vital oriole]

it's as good as 3060 desktop

if it ain't max-q

half the vram amount but whatever

the thing can't use 12 gigs

i've always wanted 2060/3060 laptop

well have ya updated bios?

f

asus pls fix

[inner spoke]

Good to know i'm not the only one having trouble making the pc stay in sleep mode lol

[spare relic]

rip

[toxic topaz]

skibidi

[brittle jasper]

eyo

[fallen eagle]

should i get 3060 or 3070 or 2080

[keen nacelle]

Depends on budget, how long you wanna wait to get one, what cpu you want and what psu you have

[fallen eagle]

dont have a max budget

[keen nacelle]

What cpu and psu do you have

[fallen eagle]

ryzen 9 and 1000w psu

[keen nacelle]

Also what games do you play, and what resolution monitor do you have, if you have one already

Ryzen 9 what

5900x, 5950x, 3900x,

[fallen eagle]

no ryzen 7 i meant

[keen nacelle]

Ryzen 7 what

3700, 5800x, 1700x, 2700x,

[fallen eagle]

3700

[keen nacelle]

You can go with a 3070

[fallen eagle]

and i play gta and minecraft

[keen nacelle]

Bruh

[fallen eagle]

oki

[keen nacelle]

Wtf do you need that strong of a gpu for then lmao

I could run both those on a gt 1030 lmao

[fallen eagle]

editing

[keen nacelle]

Ohh

Ok

Yeah 3070 then

[fallen eagle]

my screen is 240 hz 4k

[keen nacelle]

Well if you start playing more demanding games you'll probably have to turn settings down

[fallen eagle]

ok

[keen nacelle]

Since 3070 isn't great for 4k gaming

[fallen eagle]

oki

[keen nacelle]

If you want to be able to play games like cod and such at max settings you could prolly get a 3080 and be fine at 4k

[fallen eagle]

oki

[heady turtle]

For 4k you want 3080 at least, 3080 ti/3090 if possible

[fallen eagle]

oki

[keen nacelle]

Ye

[keen nacelle]

But they only play gta and mc currently

And edit

[heady turtle]

True

3070 would do probs

[fallen eagle]

have a good day and thanks for the help

[keen nacelle]

Happy to and you too

[vital oriole]

1030 for mc is meh tbh

esp new versions

mc has gotten pret heavy

[normal hawk]

240hz 4k???

[keen nacelle]

I got like 200fps with 20 render or so on hypixel, but I only really played 1.8.9

[normal hawk]

Y'all would cry if you saw how I transport my PC over here lol.

[keen nacelle]

Keep in mind mc is mostly cpu dependant

[vital oriole]

1.8.9 is light

[keen nacelle]

I use mostly lightly

But you get what I mean

[vital oriole]

since 1.12 perf drop is big

[keen nacelle]

Mc says min specs is intel hd 4000

Which is below 730 perf

[vital oriole]

it's still doable but

[keen nacelle]

So 1030 would do the job

[vital oriole]

not good now lol

[heady turtle]

Mc is fairly cpu bound soo

[normal hawk]

This is Temporary. Using it to help someone. But that's the bag I use.

[vital oriole]

i have 850m

[keen nacelle]

Oh god

[vital oriole]

and it's about 1030 perf

i get not that great perf on mc with new versions

[normal hawk]

Ugly case. But it works

[keen nacelle]

Yeah but what cpu

[vital oriole]

but to be fair, my cpu is only haswell kek

4710hq

[keen nacelle]

:p

[vital oriole]

it stutters here and there

[normal hawk]

I played Minecraft on a Pentium. Y'all will be fine

[vital oriole]

but 1030 wouldn't be ok even then

[normal hawk]

Minspecs are all lies.

[keen nacelle]

I ran mc almost at 60fps wirh a 4030u

And intel 4400

[vital oriole]

tho don't play 1.17

it has bad mem leak

[keen nacelle]

That was when my pc was being built

Oh ofc not

[heady turtle]

With my old r9 380, I'd easily get between 200-650, with my Ryzen 5 3600, upgraded to 3070, no difference

[keen nacelle]

That laptop can barely run 1.8.9

Yeah i was wondering why I only got 400fps on mc with 30 render

Then I found out it was cpu reliant

I use the word "only" lightly lmao

[vital oriole]

mc 1.17 starts at 7 gigs in ram consumption for my laptop lmao

then it slowly creeps up

until it takes all of 12 and crashes

[fallen eagle]

fck

[vital oriole]

takes an hour to do that

every single try

[keen nacelle]

My laptop had 6gb but I tore apart an old laptop for a second 4gb stick

[keen nacelle]

Wat

[normal hawk]

That's weird. Cause Minecraft java defaults to 2gbs @vital oriole

[vital oriole]

yeah

1.17 is p glitched

hope it's fixed in 1.18

[normal hawk]

Have you tried allocating less ram to it?

[vital oriole]

nah

less would kill it

i did allocate only 8 gigs max iirc

but i wonder how it goes over

[normal hawk]

Did you disable your integrated GPU in the Nvidia control panel?

[vital oriole]

my laptop doesn't have that

but i did make sure to use the dgpu

[normal hawk]

Ah okay

I'd try allocating 4gb's and see if that helps. Dedicating that much of your ram can sometimes cause issues. I think you should only allocate 8 if you have 16

[vital oriole]

hm ok

i'll try tmr

[teal widget]

when my gpu is in use, it hardly uses any of its memory

is there a reason for this?

[plucky pilot]

I know the 3080 is limited to 4 displays, even though the card has more video outs. Is that 4 display limit still the case even if I mirror multiple monitors? Or could I expand the 4 limit if I mirror some of the displays?

[timid narwhal]

4 is 4

mirrored or not, the GPU is still pushing the same amount of pixels

[plucky pilot]

And I assume that is also the case even if I use one of those DP adapters or hubs

Alright thank you, so it looks like my only option is 2 gpus. I can understand a limit with 4k displays, but not being able to run 5 1080 displays feels like a huge downgrade from previous generation cards.

found a better solution, a MST hub - the computer sees 1 monitor but I can essentially display more

[timid narwhal]

question: why do you need to connect more than 4 screens?

[plucky pilot]

3 monitors on my desk, a wacom cintiq and I run another dp (that is mirrored) over to a monitor I have mounted on my keyboard stand so I can work in my DAW while at the keyboard without having to keep getting up and going back to my desk

not a normal scenario at all, but it works for me

after working with a 3 monitor setup for almost two decades I don't see that changing any time soon.

[dreamy dragon]

DeathTried#9214 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

[timid narwhal]

wowsers. send pics, thats sounds cool

[teal widget]

^indeed it does

I would love to get some more monitors, but I don't know what ones to get. I would want one vertical

[plucky pilot]

hm, tried sending it a photo and it wont let me attach nor link imgur

[heady turtle]

You need to be level 3 to post images btw

Or post links that aren't pc part picker, Newegg, Amazon etc

[plucky pilot]

gotcha

well, I plan to put photos up on pc part picker once I pick out a case and finish the new build, so I can share them then

for now I just shot you a message with it

[heady turtle]

You're level 3 now, so you can send them now

[vital oriole]

in what game?

[timid narwhal]

looks cosy AF btw

[plucky pilot]

thank you!

[coarse gust]

That does look comfy

[real gulch]

Lol

Ill show my setup in build chat when i get home bc i want some advice for my setup when i start remaking it

[coarse gust]

Im currently rebuilding mine

[real gulch]

Nice

[coarse gust]

Need a couple monitors and the gpu ugrade still

[real gulch]

Bc i have an idea for my pc placement but im rethinking my monitors

[coarse gust]

Im completly rebuilding because my move

[real gulch]

Im getting just a gtx 1060 6gb lol

[coarse gust]

In waiting to get a 3090 for msrp

The 5800x cant really stretch its legs unless im streaming rn

[real gulch]

k

[timid narwhal]

nothing wrong with that. My wife used one till recently and didnt have any issues

[dreamy dragon]

lakshu vasan#2659 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

Zubairsapra#4103 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

[pallid coyote]

So many bots spamming to get kicked, smh

[solemn panther]

Smh

[normal hawk]

https://www.amazon.com/ASUS-Graphics-DisplayPort-Axial-tech-2-9-Slot/dp/B096YQ6WVW

[keen nacelle]

[normal hawk]

Course it sends to the wrong seller

Click on the "used" option. Even amazon warehouse deals is scalping used cards

They used to be a decent way to get a gpu.

1301 for a 3070 ti is ridiculous lmao

A used 3070 ti

[keen nacelle]

With the miner I use I can only pull out gift cards instead of $ (since I can't make a coinbase account) so I'm hoping that amazon is better for pc parts in a couple years

[normal hawk]

I don't think it will be. Too many bots

[keen nacelle]

Yeah prolly

I'll probably end up getting visas and transferring them to cash through PayPal

[vital oriole]

you can get prepaid visa

[keen nacelle]

Yeye

But the max is 200 with my miner

So I'll have to transfer them if I want anything over 200$

Which gpus would prolly cost more than that lmao

[normal hawk]

Yea

[vital oriole]

ya

[cerulean rover]

With salad, you can get visa gift cards that can be used for basically anything

[keen nacelle]

Is salad the only miner that gives gcs or smthn?

And the max is 200

[cerulean rover]

Salad is the only one I know

[keen nacelle]

I'm saving for around 2 years for my pc upgrade

[cerulean rover]

What you can also do is link it to your paypal

[keen nacelle]

Yeye that's what I said

[cerulean rover]

And PayPal has an option to use multiple cards for the same transaction

[keen nacelle]

Oh I didn't know that last part

[cerulean rover]

I think it might only do 2 in the same transaction, but still 2 cards, yaknow.

[keen nacelle]

Oof

There's still a way to transfer the money to your bank account I believe

[cerulean rover]

Yea there should be

[cosmic bluff]

Actually if im correct there is

[dreamy dragon]

BlueDemon0_3#6746 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

[clever pagoda]

Wow

I won the newegg shuffle but I was asleep so I didn't get to say if I wanted to buy it or not

They sent the email earlier than usual smh, that super sucks

[heady turtle]

Rip

[clever pagoda]

Last time I had till 7 to claim it

[brave violet]

check on newegg and see if is your cart

[clever pagoda]

Unfortunately it's not

Newegg did a poo poo move there

[brave violet]

😦

[steady eagle]

probably???

its a gpu shortage

you can always sell it if u dont want it

[radiant vine]

hello on rx 6800 xt can we have 3 screens in eyeinfinity and the 4 alone underneath ^ like nvidia surround and another screen alone

[livid idol]

It depends on which model exactly, some have a limit of 3 displays, others 4

[vital pivot]

@surreal vine you can always sell your old GPu and the new motherboard. But if it’s the only chance then yeah

Buy it

My buddy had a 3060 and swapped it out with a 3060ti. He was very surprised with the performance increase

[keen nacelle]

Can always sell the mobo

[keen nacelle]

Yeah its what, 30%? Almost

[vital pivot]

Yeah for a $100 price difference.

[keen nacelle]

How long is the buy window?

And sorry, I was at a volunteer thing otherwise I woulda responded earlier

Someone responded at 6:00

[keen nacelle]

.

[vital pivot]

Man go cry a freaking river if you can’t decided something without someone holding your hand.

I’m in the same boat with the tax

But yeah. Most of us knowing that you had a 3070 would have said no.

But going from a pny 3070 would have been a slight downgrade.

[dreamy dragon]

JohnnyFreshco#8996 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

[vital pivot]

Most of the pny 3070 are selling at $1k+

So you could have made $200 on profit.

[keen nacelle]

I dont have a glass panel 😎

Otherwise my gigabyte gaming oc pro would be so out of place

[vital pivot]

Yep.

[keen nacelle]

I entered the shuffle 38 times so if I won I could sell it to someone at cost, didn't win a single one

Entered for nearly every card under 1k

[vital pivot]

It will reduce your chance at winning

[keen nacelle]

Glad I didn't have to shuffle for my card

What's the appeal of console when you have a strong pc?

Ah

I knew some spoiled kid at school who built a 3090 5900x pc, had both new consoles, basically every old semi recent console, and more

I just don't get it

2 4k high refresh rate monitors too

Which also makes no sense

It's just disgusting honestly

Not as bad as a kid in my 9yh grade class... wouldn't use an iPhone 11 his parents got him since it was the wrong color

Left his MacBook on a counter if he had to leave a room

Personality over money

[cosmic bluff]

I just use what i buy for its intended purpose till its worth no more

Like im gonna tun this 3090 till its dead in several years in the future

[livid idol]

There's points involved in comparing to others... On hwbot

[keen nacelle]

Timespy?

Wait no

[livid idol]

3dmark probably

[keen nacelle]

Nvm

[livid idol]

Just not userbenchmark. That site is a biased joke.

[keen nacelle]

I only used ubm a little ago to stress test when I was having issues

[analog badge]

does a 3060m bottleneck with a 10300h?

[keen nacelle]

Found out it was a ram issue but it sucks for benching

[keen nacelle]

Not at all

[analog badge]

thats good

would 8gb of system ram bottleneck one?

[keen nacelle]

Yeah

16gb is basically required at this point

Maybe 1.5

[livid idol]

Nah just set it to low priority and have the page file run chrome on your mechanical drive, it's fine

It might take a few minutes to load per click but it's fiiiiine

[vital pivot]

Falcie for the win

I played a little today

[radiant vine]

Asus tuf with 4 screens. But the card what i bougjt last week had a DP hs and only 3 screen ´s working. Send card back to newegg. But still waitong to lnow if i can donjas my gtx1070

[analog badge]

i have like 30 tabs open on 8 :/

if i open a game or anything it just kind of wont

i wish i could get chrome/discord running on page files

because i dont care about performance for them

[odd solar]

Guess the game which can make the 3090 and 3700x get 1 fps(I have proof to support my answer)

[analog badge]

cat goes fishing

makes my 3060 lag

i dont know why

[vital oriole]

roblox

or minecraft with tnts

[odd solar]

tnt minecraft can take down ANY pc

but

what if u wanted

a continuous 1 or 2 fps

[normal hawk]

Superflat Minecraft TNT world?

[odd solar]

@vital oriole

lmao no

1 sec

shud i tell the answer

[normal hawk]

Ye

Ye

[odd solar]

?

[normal hawk]

Ye

Ye

[vital oriole]

lol

[normal hawk]

Ye

Ye

[odd solar]

?

@normal hawk

shud i or not?!?!?!

@normal hawk

shud i or not

oh

[odd solar]

The answer

i will dm

[analog badge]

what about dn?

[odd solar]

what is dn @analog badge

[analog badge]

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deez nuts

[odd solar]

?

bruh

[analog badge]

deez nuts

haha

[odd solar]

okok

so do u know the answer?

[analog badge]

what answer?

[cosmic bluff]

Hmm lets see how long till yall get banned for spam and trolling

[analog badge]

spam?

[normal hawk]

Ye

[cosmic bluff]

Yes spam pinging people in the server

[analog badge]

47 messages in 2 days

and i have not pinged anyone that wasnt for help

[normal hawk]

Oh how many times did i send ye? I sent it once but i see it like 6 times

[odd solar]

where lmao

[odd solar]

1ce

[odd solar]

i dm

[cosmic bluff]

Spam is not tolerated in server just a note for ya

[analog badge]

i am confused

[cosmic bluff]

And the image done in text is a pushing of the buttons but ill let mods handle this situation so enjoy your stay

[analog badge]

?

[odd solar]

wait i got kicked for spam? a spam of 3 mesages? im confused

[magic wing]

spam bad

[odd solar]

but WHERE??

[cosmic bluff]

I already provided proof and i wont repeat myself

[magic wing]

anywhere

[odd solar]

dude.. i'm sorry. i dont see the proof anywhere. i'm confused

[cosmic bluff]

I removed it to clear the channel from images that dont need to be here

[odd solar]

wait.. ohhh. Dude i am SO sorry about that.. My internet had got disconnected at that moment.. i thought none of the messages went which is why i was sending it repeatedly. So Sorry

[cosmic bluff]

No problem just note spam isnt tolerated and enjoy your stay

[odd solar]

thank you

[dreamy dragon]

abdelnour1902#6526 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

[odd solar]

I noticed that many ppl are keeping thier cpu and gpu in thier nicks.. cumpolsury?

and how do i change my nick?

[heady turtle]

Not compulsory

How to change nickname

[normal hawk]

https://www.newegg.com/sapphire-radeon-rx-6900-xt-11308-01-20g/p/N82E16814202395 6900 XT 1599. Cheapest I've seen for an AIB card

[heady turtle]

Not horrible

[fringe cradle]

Whats the difference between GTX and RTX

[keen nacelle]

Rtx is ray tracing, only one gtx card can raytrace and it really can't

It's just a meme

[heady turtle]

Rtx has ray tracing capabilities but that's it

[keen nacelle]

Gtx definitely has some powerful cards, but it doesn't have dlss or rtx

[heady turtle]

The model matters more

Rtx are the newer cards

[keen nacelle]

^^

Gtx 1080 ti over an rtx 2060 super any day

[fringe cradle]

A couple of people in another server said that the RTX3050 ti was terrible

[keen nacelle]

If it was me anyways

It is

Worse than a good few gtx cards

[fringe cradle]

So I shouldn’t get a computer with that built in?

[keen nacelle]

Well 3050 ti is a mobile gpu

As of now no pcs have them

[fringe cradle]

There’s an ASUS computer with it

Is it at least considerably better than intergraded graphics?

[keen nacelle]

What's the price?

[heady turtle]

The laptop 3050 ti? Yeah it's pretty meh

[fringe cradle]

On sale for 859.99 but it’s normally 999.99

[heady turtle]

There's no desktop 3050 ti

[fringe cradle]

USD

[keen nacelle]

Yeah thats what I thought lol

[heady turtle]

Can you link it?

[fringe cradle]

Here

[keen nacelle]

Yeah that's a laptop

My connection is awful rn I'm at school

[heady turtle]

It's fine

[keen nacelle]

My connection so bad it let me click the link before it got deleted lmao

[fringe cradle]

I just wanna know if it could run something like BFV

[keen nacelle]

I mean it'd run, but if you want a pc then that's not a pc, it's a laptop

And for like 100$ more you can get a laptop with a 3060

Which is a decent bit better

I'd find a link on best buy but as I said my connection is less than par

[fringe cradle]

Fair enough

[keen nacelle]

Just search "3060 laptop" on best buy and there's one somewhere on there for 1k

[fringe cradle]

Yeah there’s another ASUS one with that
Seems good

[keen nacelle]

And if you want a pc there's one on I believe adorama with a 1660 super for 850$

[keen nacelle]

Does it have the 3060?

[fringe cradle]

Yes

[keen nacelle]

Should be the one then

16gb of ram or 8?

[fringe cradle]

16

And i7

[keen nacelle]

Perfect

10750h right?

Anyways, any i7 it has would be fine

[fringe cradle]

Idk
It does seem good

[keen nacelle]

Depending on how much storage you need you could always get a 2tb external hdd for 50$ or so

[fringe cradle]

I don’t even use all of the 256GB on my current computer

[keen nacelle]

The cooling and battery life probably aren't the best, since it is cheap, but i believe it's one of the only laptops with a 3060 or similar for 1k

And you can always use a cooling pad

[odd solar]

thanks!'

how did this conv even start i wanna join lmao

ok

Ray tracing vs path tracing

[normal hawk]

The good nvenc is only on the 1600 series and rtx cards so I'd count that too.

And I think of the 1600 series cards it's not on all of them. I think one of (if not more) the several 1650 doesn't have it

[heady turtle]

True but 16 series are gtx

[normal hawk]

There's like 6 different versions of the 1650 though. If you include mobile.

1650, 1650 super, 1650 ti (mobile only iirc), 1650 gddr6 version, 1650 super max-Q (mobile only)

[normal hawk]

But i think we should stress the fact that it is a difference between GTX and RTX as GTX includes a lot of cards that don't have NVENC.

Oh and yeah, the 1650's Nvenc is based on Volta, which is the same as Pascal's.

[heady turtle]

fair

[normal hawk]

1650 super and up have it. So that's only 4 GTX cards. But it is the same NVENC on all of those that's on 2000 and 3000 series cards.

[toxic hamlet]

i can get a pc for 2k aud that seems pretty good

i5 10400 and 3060ti with 500 gig operating m.2, leaving space for my 4tb 2.5" hdd, and wifi 5

1'950 aud including shipping as a prebuilt

[keen nacelle]

I've seen worse

[timid narwhal]

decent price. have you got details about actual components?

[pastel gulch]

i paid 627 euro for 3060 12gb is that a good price?

it was the cheapest i could find

[heady turtle]

No, i mean I've seen worse but i wouldn't pay more than 500 max

[pastel gulch]

oh

oof

[deft wigeon]

Still can’t get a gpu 😑

[odd solar]

guys.. what do you think is better? ray tracing or path tracing

[coarse tundra]

theres a 3070ti

[odd solar]

my opinion path tracing

[coarse tundra]

for 450

[deft wigeon]

Really

[odd solar]

no

way

wow

[odd solar]

link

[coarse tundra]

restocks

everu

thursday

[deft wigeon]

On bestbuy

[odd solar]

then send it here tomorrow

[coarse tundra]

alr

[heady turtle]

Scam lmao

[odd solar]

anyone?

[heady turtle]

Anything under msrp is not legit lol

[deft wigeon]

What’s path tracing

[heady turtle]

Raster

I think that's what they mean

[odd solar]

seus. ptgi. shaders for minecraft

Ptgi= path traced global illumination

it works very similar to RTX

but there is some kind of difference

not sure what

[deft wigeon]

O

[odd solar]

also

i still cant figure out how to change my nick lmao

bcz there are sooo many ppl on this server

[vital oriole]

it's not rt lel

[odd solar]

on desktop

[odd solar]

?

[vital oriole]

it's just very heavy and bootiful path tracing

[odd solar]

hmm

yes

[vital oriole]

rt uses more than that

[odd solar]

what?

[vital oriole]

rt doesn't only do path tracing

[odd solar]

what else?

[vital oriole]

they obviously trace and cast the rays

[deft wigeon]

Why am I here

[odd solar]

whats the difference? wdym by cast

[coarse tundra]

newegg..

[odd solar]

ask urself that

[vital oriole]

well

nvidia should have vids explaining rt

[odd solar]

yea

does it?

idk lmao

can i dm u?

[deft wigeon]

You’re lying @coarse tundra just checked and they’re all over 1000

[coarse tundra]

prob cause i live in a country with no one buying those rtx cards

[deft wigeon]

Oh

[heady turtle]

3rd party seller

[deft wigeon]

So uh when will gpu prices and stocks go back to normal? I’ve given up on getting one

[heady turtle]

https://tenor.com/view/8ball-bart-simpson-shaking-shake-magic-ball-gif-17725278

Depends what your definition of back to normal is

But I'd guestimate at least a year

[deft wigeon]

Bruuhhhh “dies”

[heady turtle]

If you're buying now either prebuilt or Integrated graphics

[hot folio]

Or spend a ton on a gpu like me

[odd solar]

https://bingkart.com/computers/8179-geforce-rtx-3080.html?gclid=CjwKCAjwybyJBhBwEiwAvz4G70DiQZaXLtLEO6pBnlwr8aXawexAD5ycBxEJOF9wxRoEhm0q9qgzBxoCVqwQAvD_BwE

this has to be fake right?

they are selling 3080 for 850 usd

(approx)

[toxic sinew]

Most likely

[vital oriole]

bingkart looks fake

gpu sold in non tech retail lmao

[hot folio]

Remember that one gpu being sold in a clothes store website

[vital oriole]

lmao yeah

[keen nacelle]

I've never even heard of the site

[livid idol]

When in doubt, check public records and see when the site was made

Looks like bingkart.com was registered in October 2018, a little too new for me. It's also registered in Iceland to an individual, not a business.

[normal hawk]

https://wccftech.com/cryptocurrency-mining-hardware-retailer-receives-a-large-shipment-of-powercolor-sapphire-xfx-amd-radeon-gpus/

:(

[steady eagle]

protest

[grizzled slate]

when the shipments go to crypto mining instead of people who need systems for work/gaming :(

[steady eagle]

dw they will come back to you when they have burnt everything good the gpu had

maybe then you can buy it

second hand

[grizzled slate]

let me buy a 3090 running at .001MHz

[rustic pulsar]

yo this gpu is so pretty but 800 for a 3060 😡 https://www.newegg.com/p/1FT-00EG-00001?Item=9SIAUJ9FS43381&Description=3060&cm_re=3060-_-9SIAUJ9FS43381-_-Product&quicklink=true

[grizzled slate]

thats pretty cool

but personally i wouldnt put that in my case

but its still a 3060

so

[steady eagle]

i mean hey its an RTX 3090, show off atleast

[grizzled slate]

😳

[steady eagle]

consider yourself lucky to find one, its expensive what do you expect

its custom painted

[steady eagle]

are you mad? 800 is nothing for this bruh

its custom painted and its an RTX 3060

considering the gpu shortage

that is just normal in the un normal circumstances

[livid idol]

Mining doesn't really reduce the life of a gpu. They're kept at a lower power limit and temp than gaming ones.

[steady eagle]

now that an uncommon opinion

[grizzled slate]

not all of them are kept at a lower power limit

[steady eagle]

yeah

[grizzled slate]

you'll never know whats kept at a lower limit and not

[steady eagle]

some even overclock for faster mining

[grizzled slate]

i dont know if thats true but yes, that is possible^

does overclocking make mining faster

thats a new question for me

[steady eagle]

probably?

i mean i guess

why else would someone overclock

[grizzled slate]

so, i looked around real quick and people say that it depends. some mine slower but some mine faster. it just depends on the memory configurations and brands of cards

[rustic pulsar]

I got my 3060 for 800 with a $460 monitor

[grizzled slate]

so you got the monitor included?

[livid idol]

No it's fact https://youtu.be/hKqVvXTanzI

[steady eagle]

ofc, it has to be complicated

[rustic pulsar]

yeah

[grizzled slate]

thats just one source mate. just cause one miner does it doesnt mean the rest do it too

[rustic pulsar]

and its good, 27 inch, 1080p, 0.4 second responce time

[grizzled slate]

some people probably dont care about the cards. just the profit

[livid idol]

You'd have to be a pretty terrible miner if you're not turning down power. It cuts into your profit margin.

[grizzled slate]

yes. thats the thing. many people dont do their research. they just mine because they see people making profit

[grizzled slate]

nice

400 for the card and 400 for the monitor

pretty cool

[livid idol]

Those people aren't mining for years with a 100+% power limit, once they do the tiniest bit of comparing to others they see something is wrong

[grizzled slate]

that is a very valid point.

however, there are just too many variables to go through to say that buying a card for mining is safe/unsafe.

[steady eagle]

facts

[livid idol]

The same can be said about one that's from gaming

[grizzled slate]

yes, exactly

thats why if i dont need to i dont buy used lol

[livid idol]

Yeah used in general is risky, too many factors like you said. It's worth the risk for many, though.

[grizzled slate]

yup, sometimes you just have to take your chances and if it works out then nice👍

[dreamy dragon]

.Lemon#4703 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

[steady eagle]

if it has warranty sure buy it

[grizzled slate]

true

[steady eagle]

you will get it replaced

[steady eagle]

so bitcoin mining ruining ur hardware is just a bunch of bs?

[steady eagle]

thats p good bruh

[rustic pulsar]

yeah, shuffle is nice

[steady eagle]

agreed

[steady eagle]

basically u need to know what u r buying lol

[grizzled slate]

depends on the stupidity of the person who used it to mine lol

[green harness]

If the miner has any sense yeah

[steady eagle]

or the stupidity of the buyer to spot a scam

[cerulean rover]

Good miners will implement measures to lengthen it's lifetime

[steady eagle]

sounds logical

since you dont wanna damage your hardware

[cerulean rover]

But if your average Joe decided they want the GPU to make as much money as possible by dragging all the sliders in afterburner to the right

Probably won't be so great after a while of mining

[steady eagle]

makes sense lol

[livid idol]

Pretty much bs, yeah. Gaming is more wear than mining because more power and variable load, but mining is done constantly so it about evens out as far as wear.

[cerulean rover]

Any decent miner*

[hot folio]

I dont think thats custom painted, ive seen a bunch of those forgot what the brand is

[cerulean rover]

But second hand market is weird

[steady eagle]

oh

[livid idol]

The miners that do less research and leave everything on stock probably won't do that for long, maybe a power bill or two

[hot folio]

Wait yeah its zotac, its worth nowhere close to $800

[livid idol]

Zotac is scalping their own cards, that's why

[cerulean rover]

This is useful
https://youtu.be/J2VkkEHDG5E

There's just lots of things with used GPUs that can be wacky

Mined on or not

[livid idol]

Seriously, check zotac site and you'll see it's all almost scalper price

[keen nacelle]

I mine, keep my core temp around 50, so rven if I mine for years straight, unless the gpu is faulty, it'd be fine

[livid idol]

Same, my core stays around 48-52C and memory is 100C (rated for 110) so I expect the fans to fail before anything else, and they're easy to replace

[versed solar]

This is a bit of a dumb question, but does anyone know when GPU prices are gonna go down? I have a custom PC with AMD RYZEN 5 5600X, 32GB 3600 MHz RAM, Lian Li LANCOOL 215 Decked out with RGB fans, Gigabyte B550 Gaming X motherboard. I was going to get a RTX 3060 12 GB Gigabyte, But they're a bit over the budget.

[livid idol]

Sometime in 2023, maybe

[brave violet]

@versed solar Be patient, get into the EVGA queau, newegg or BB drop, or any other places that do drop. If not until late 2022 or 2023 to get prices down

[covert spruce]

only way you can even get a decent price for gpu is custom prebuilt or prebuilt

which sucks like alot since they dont over price the gpu

but they over price putting it all together

like is sad but i would wait till RX 6900 comes out maybe it will shake up the gpu pricing down by a 100 or less

[cosmic bluff]

That wont necessarily be the case if a new gpu drops because scalpers already have some bots and systems ready to snag em up and do the same thing

[steady eagle]

or buy the intel gpu

👁️ 👄 👁️

[heady turtle]

That comes out the same time as rtx 4000

[livid idol]

Intel is a bit of a wild card but it'll be scalped the same as the others

[steady eagle]

maybe try palit gpus?

they are cheaper than others

[cosmic bluff]

Hold up ima turn on my rtx for that

[steady eagle]

and this is why i never turn on ray tracing

[cosmic bluff]

Lol

[steady eagle]

totally not because i dont have a gpu

[cosmic bluff]

Here let me use dlss ultra performance as well lol

[steady eagle]

oh no i fear what is coming

[livid idol]

DLSS and RT on

[cosmic bluff]

Perfect

Wait... No... We neeed mooooorrrreeee DLSS and RT

[heady turtle]

Palit are regional i believe

[steady eagle]

._.

[steady eagle]

hah, wifi too slow to load it

[dreamy dragon]

28#2892 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

[heady turtle]

There's a buying guide in pins, obvs doesn't cover every country but covers the majority of this servers population

[steady eagle]

sowi the bot i blocked

well how is gpu shortage a thing when stores in my city are stacked with RTX 20 series and 30 series

and they are brand new

[livid idol]

They're probably selling at 2-3x price

[cosmic bluff]

I just walked into my best buy and paid for this card so ye

[steady eagle]

asus, msi, zotac, evga, gigabyte, palit, you name it

[steady eagle]

ofc bruh

[heady turtle]

Because noone wants to pay 1k for a 3060

[steady eagle]

why would they sell it at normal price when no one else does

[steady eagle]

you would be amused by how fast they are out of stock and refueled with stock in under a week

they were once selling DIY computer build, i rebuilt it with pc part picker

and there was like almost 200 dollars difference

like bruh are u kidding me?

[heady turtle]

I mean some ppl will but that's why not oos immediately

[steady eagle]

its just annoying dude

those scalpers are just ruining the fun

[lone pond]

first nvidia said most of 2021, now theyre saying most of 2022

next theyll say most of 2023, then most of the 21st century

[cerulean rover]

I'm still sitting on my 2024 prediction, as that's the only thing we have any evidence for

new fabs

[lone pond]

the supply problem and price hike will never stop

[cerulean rover]

there's like 4 different fabs finishing in 2024, a considerable increase in supply should be quite impactful

[livid idol]

Yep new fabs will be coming online starting 2023 into 2024 and it'll be a few months for them to catch up with demand

[cerulean rover]

Only one of the fabs was 2023 iirc

[livid idol]

RTX 4000 is already looking like a total loss as far as pricing

[cerulean rover]

tsmc and intel are both 2024 afaik, glofo should be 2024, I think it was Samsung that'll finish in late 2023

[livid idol]

Yes but one is better than none lol

[lone pond]

pricing is going to kill the casual market

[cerulean rover]

we'll see

[lone pond]

its already dead rn, really

[bold condor]

m m m

i cant talk tho

i have a rx 570 L:

[lone pond]

budget gaming dont exist now

[cerulean rover]

wouldn't really call it dead when the demand is still there

oh budget gaming is still there

It's just iGP

mid end is what suffers most

[lone pond]

ive been stuck without a PC for a year now, waiting til 2024 just wont do for me

demand is going to drop before 2024, becase im gonna give up demanding one by then

[delicate spear]

are u going to wait 3 years to build a computer?

[lone pond]

nope

my want for a computer is gonna be gone long before then...the gamer in me will be a corpse

if GPUs dont appear readily in stock at MSRP by 2022 ill move on to watching paint dry and grass die

[delicate spear]

dude same

been waiting to get a 1650s for like a year now, im tired of waiting ngl 😔

[lone pond]

my 8-9 year old PC fried last august, then GPU market roundhouse kicked my face

[versed solar]

thanks

[steady eagle]

solution is simple bruh

get a console

[delicate spear]

[cursive meteor]

Now that blows.

[lone pond]

bro I gtx 1650 is 500💀

*a

[brazen bay]

$491 for a 1660S here

[violet kestrel]

usd?

[humble walrus]

wow

im tryna find a rtx 2060 or 3060 for msrp

[livid idol]

Doesn't exist

Tariffs alone brought up the price of the 3060 to at least $450-500

[vital oriole]

good luck finding a console that's not scalped rn

[cursive meteor]

My local target has them in stock all the time.

Just gotta get there before noon and you’re pretty much guaranteed to get one.

[summer oriole]

https://media.giphy.com/media/un0YUR1fvl8LYapTnB/giphy.gif

[odd solar]

play a game like that and ull only need intel hd graphics XD

[queen snow]

can someone help me?

i wanna put action figures inside my pc but im afraid theyre gonna melt cuz of how hot my pc getd

[livid idol]

Don't worry about it. The parts may be hot but the air inside isn't.

[timid narwhal]

as long as you dont mount the figurines directly on your CPU or GPU, you should be fine

[queen snow]

okay i hope so

[mortal leaf]

should i get used gpu?

ok lol

[livid idol]

Used is usually fine if you know the warning signs to avoid

This is a good start https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J2VkkEHDG5E

[mortal leaf]

ok i guess i go for a new one

cause my place is sus lol

sus

ok lol

nice

[steady eagle]

ps2 wont get scalped

im obviously joking

but if u really want gaming and cant really afford a gaming computer

just go for a console

its the better budget option in some cases

a used ps4 can cost around 240 euros

used ps5 about 700 - 800 euros

digital edition can cost about 400 euros

. _ .

ps3 costs under 90 euros

ps2 under 50 euros

playstation classis costs under 70

those are used prices in a store that gives you warranty for atleast a year

[rain vale]

Would an RTX 2070 be able to do 4k resolution on games like Red Dead Redemption, Mafia: DE & FIFA 21/22?

With decent fps

Waiting for my 4k monitor to arrive

[odd solar]

it will be ablte to.. in red ded2 atleast if u keep it at like med settings 4k shub be fine.. if u keep it at high settings then it will drop

[keen nacelle]

If you're expecting max settings hell nah, I wouldn't even do 1440p with anything under a 3060 ti honestly.

[vital oriole]

2070 could do 1440p60+ in many cases

just don't max out in those games mentioned

it can max it out with dlss i guess

in terms of rdr2

[heady turtle]

Don't expect it to do cp277 anytime soon 1440p tho

[novel kestrel]

So what about a 6800xt aio 😂 any good

[rain vale]

I am thinking about making a new build with rtx 3080 ti or 3090. But prices are insane atm. Will it drop back to normal any time soon?

[vital oriole]

nope, sadly

[timid narwhal]

badnews on the horizon. not only is there still a shortage, but all the chip manufacturing plants have recently announced that they are increasing prices of chip manufacturing.

[rain vale]

That's bad

[timid narwhal]

yup. There is no incentive for ANYONE to reduce prices while people are still buying at these insane ones

[heady turtle]

Aio cards are fine yeah

[steady eagle]

5 minutes after never

[twin lance]

Well said

[timid narwhal]

one tiny glimmer of hope: well see what impact, if any, Intels new GPUs have on the market

[twin lance]

i hope the prices drop in a year

cuz i wanna get a PC after my high school

[steady eagle]

dont get your hopes too high lol

[heady turtle]

Except, intels GPUs not coming out til 40 series rtx

[heady turtle]

Prebuilts are decent options

[steady eagle]

go for used or prebuilts

[vital oriole]

go for prebuilts

ones from newegg, like abs systems

[twin lance]

ill check but i really wanna build my own

[vital oriole]

the price are fair

well if you wanna build yours, it's expensive sadly

[steady eagle]

orrrr contact dell support to help you buy something with your budget, they have really good support, saw it in secret buyers 💀

[twin lance]

but there is 1 year for it

[steady eagle]

you can modify your pre builds later

[twin lance]

good idea

[steady eagle]

just make sure you buy a one thats is modifiable

[heady turtle]

Huh?

Linus didn't buy anything from intel..

[steady eagle]

dell

sorry

meant dell

[heady turtle]

Dells service suckkkkked

[steady eagle]

it was the best wym

upsales left and right

[heady turtle]

No lol

Lol

[steady eagle]

im obv being sarcastic

[heady turtle]

Kinda hard to tell over text when you don't exaggerate it lol

[steady eagle]

true

[timid narwhal]

sarcasm level is over 9000 😆

[timid narwhal]

not the Dell ones! 😆

[steady eagle]

you wont need to! dell has the perfect gaming computers

[vital oriole]

perfect for heating your room up

also cook some chickens

[twin lance]

noice

[heady turtle]

That's the reason why kfc console failed, dell had them beat, ofc

[ruby charm]

Hello friends can u help me i want to upgrade my gpu my current is 1660s

[heady turtle]

How much you got to spend?

[ruby charm]

No limits

[heady turtle]

And how desperate you are to upgrade

Ohh

[ruby charm]

Cuz i will not buy now

[heady turtle]

Well when will you buy?

Can't give advice far in the future

[ruby charm]

Maybe Black Friday

[heady turtle]

Prices aren't gonna drop them btw

What resolution, games, frame rates you wanna play?

[ruby charm]

Cuz i will get some cash last of the year

[heady turtle]

Ohh just around November

[ruby charm]

Currently my monitor is 165. 1080p

[heady turtle]

Then I'd keep your 1660 super

Depending on the games you play

What games do you play?

[ruby charm]

Shooter games i play currently like apex

[heady turtle]

1660 super should do you fine at 1080p in apex

[steady eagle]

do you really need an upgrade then?

yeah

pato is right

[ruby charm]

Oh ok

So i stay like this

[steady eagle]

do you come across any problems?

does your gpu have any problems

[ruby charm]

No

[steady eagle]

then you should be fine

[ruby charm]

Only i think it gives my like 144

No more

[steady eagle]

idk i think thats enough for the time being

would suggest staying like this till you need an upgrade

[ruby charm]

When and why I upgrad?

[steady eagle]

when you need the upgrade, like when your gpu cant keep up with the games you play anymore

or when your gpu starts failing, gets slower, heats up alot and fast

basically when you have a problem with your gpu

[ruby charm]

Ok

Thank you

[steady eagle]

no problem

[keen nacelle]

Yeah im worried what card prices are going to be like even without the pandemic, they might be like this for msrp if they decide to. Well have to wait and see what happens

[heady turtle]

More demanding games, not esports, and/or 1440p

[ruby charm]

Ok

[dreamy dragon]

Spira23#6911 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

[dreamy dragon]

Oikos#6430 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

[verbal geyser]

how gut is rtx 3060 for video editing

[heady turtle]

Pretty good

[keen nacelle]

It's a pretty solid card, I dont know how video editing compares to gaming in terms of needs though

Pretty sure it also changes depending on the software you use

[safe onyx]

That's not really a useful question. Compared to what? It has a lot of VRAM, which is useful for crunching video, but it's clocked lower than other cards. a 3090 will demolish it, and a Quadro will go even further.

[keen nacelle]

Some softwares use cpu, some use a mix of cpu and gpu

[heady turtle]

Afaik video editing is like the one thing that can utilize the 3060s vram a bit

[safe onyx]

short answer, it's probably fine.

[keen nacelle]

Obviously, but quadros and 3090 are expensive as ****

[safe onyx]

yes, obviously.

[keen nacelle]

I'm guessing if they're asking about 3060 they're on a budget

[safe onyx]

And that's the real question: "What's your budget?"

[heady turtle]

Well obviously a card that's top of the line will be better xD

But 3090 isn't actually clocked higher than a 3060, they use different dies

[keen nacelle]

The titan rtx 3090 is just crazy overall

Wait

How do the line

[safe onyx]

two tildes, I think is what you're going for

[heady turtle]

~~

~~ like this ~~

With no space

[keen nacelle]

Eh whatever it's not working with editing it

[steady eagle]

~~lol~~

like that

[safe onyx]

and yes, the 3090 is clocked higher- not a ton on the GPU, but very significantly on the VRAM. Something something GDDR6X vs GDDR6

[steady eagle]

titan

[keen nacelle]

Oh my phone is on low brightness I couldn't see you guys were doing ~ instead of -

Cuz school and battery

[steady eagle]

~~titan~~

copy paste it XD

[keen nacelle]

There we go

Lol

[steady eagle]

clapssss

[safe onyx]

Anyway, I built a relatively modest rig for a friend of mine with a 2060 for primarily video rendering and Art Stuff, and they don't seem to have any complaints? They're coming off of intel IGP graphics though, so uh.

[verbal geyser]

thanks

[steady eagle]

how good is GT 730 now days

[keen nacelle]

No.

That's the entire answer.

[steady eagle]

not even for 25 euros

[keen nacelle]

Idk how bad the shortage is there

But to put it in perspective, you'll barely be able to run valorant

Which is a very non demanding game

[steady eagle]

bruh

thanks, now im totally not buying it

what could the best oldest gpu be

[hot folio]

Just get a cpu with an iGPU if you really need one now

[steady eagle]

like a budget somewhere below 100 .-.

[keen nacelle]

I mean even the 600 series is decent depending on what you wanna run

I've seen a couple 780 tis in your budget, which is similar to 970

[steady eagle]

the cpu has amd's integrated graphics

[keen nacelle]

What graphics

Well

If you dont know that

What cpu

[steady eagle]

amd athalon A8

[keen nacelle]

Alec know what graphics that has?

Is that vega 6?

Anyways, even vega 6 is better than the 730 lol

[hot folio]

On the website it’s saying Radeon R7

[steady eagle]

probs yh

[keen nacelle]

Ah