graphics-cards

[grim frost]

Auction went to $750 I don't know how it why

[keen nacelle]

thats insane

[grim frost]

It is

They also tried to return it but I won the case because they sent a different card

[keen nacelle]

lmao

[dusty nova]

Man I want a 3060 GPU rn it would be a massive upgrade considering I dont even have a GPU rn

[hexed sparrow]

Is pny a good brand for graphics cards?

[green harness]

PNY is fine

[tepid isle]

Whats the diff between FE and a reference card

[cerulean rover]

uh?

usually fe is reference card

[tepid isle]

Wait

Am confused with this vid

[cerulean rover]

you mean founders versus aib cards?

[tepid isle]

https://youtu.be/rsjhBVAGAXM

Skip to 2:58

Or its just me

[cerulean rover]

ampere is slightly different with the reference not having the scissor looking pcb

but usually reference is founders

[tepid isle]

Yeah i kno

am i missing something

[cerulean rover]

Reference design is what NVidia provides all the AIBs as a reference

so it can be different from the FE

[tepid isle]

Oh I see

[cerulean rover]

but usually afaik, with pascal, turing, etc, FE is the reference design.

[tepid isle]

whats AIB again?

B is board

[cerulean rover]

add-in-board partners

[tepid isle]

Noice

Tyty

[cerulean rover]

NVidia gives the chip, they make a pcb, cooler, and shroud for it

or just use reference pcb

[lone pond]

Which graphics card is best atm?

[analog wolf]

Finally got one at msrp

[rich wraith]

Hey all, when I put my pc to sleep and wake it back up, my monitors plugged into my 6800xt won't turn on. I have to switch off my psu, wait about 10 seconds and then turn my psu switch on and then press my power button for my monitors to turn on. (forcibly powering off my pc via the power button doesn't work, when pc boots back up screens plugged into gpu are still off) Anyone know anything about this?

The monitor plugged into my motherboard directly works fine

Shutting my pc down fully instead of putting it to sleep seems to make it work normally, monitors turn back on

But I'd prefer to put my pc to sleep instead of shut down each night

[fossil talon]

3090 for consumer

[inland hound]

ROMMY!!!!

[inland hound]

Not much, you?

And lies

We talk

[oak willow]

we mine

mine

[covert forge]

we mine

[hot folio]

I wouldn’t really say consumer, more for professional, for the average consumer the 3080 or 3080ti is probably the best consumer

[inland hound]

3080Ti is if you want to throw away your money

3090 is if you are a chad who somewhat values your cash

[hot folio]

3090 is only really worth it if you absolutely need the VRAM

If not the 3080ti is the better buy imo

[inland hound]

False

[hot folio]

I’m talking here at MSRP prices

$1000 for 3090 performance without the unnecessary VRAM for most gamers

I’d say it’s not a bad deal

Compared to a 1500 for a 3090

WAIT ITS 1200

I could’ve sworn it was only 1000

[inland hound]

Nah lol

[hot folio]

1200 yeah no that ain’t a good deal at all

My life has been a lie

[hot folio]

Love the PFP btw

[inland hound]

yeah 1k is a much better deal lol

thanks

got a whole thing going on

[hot folio]

Evangelion is such a good show

Goddamnit now I have that song stuck in my head

[inland hound]

nah shhh

fly me to the moon

and let me play

among the stars

[hot folio]

Isn’t it All of the time?

Not all the time?

[inland hound]

huh?

Fly Me To The Moon, Komm, susser Tod, A Cruel Angel's Thesis...

[inland hound]

what song is that from

[hot folio]

Lmao little things like that bug me

Welcome To the Internet

Bo Burnham

[inland hound]

ooooh

you were talking about that

you put like

[hot folio]

Haha

[inland hound]

3 words on the screen

I couldnt see

have a look around

anything that brain of yours can think of can be found

we've got mountains of content

[hot folio]

It’s almost 2 am here lol my mind ain’t working right

[inland hound]

some better

some worse

If not of it is of interest to you, you'd be the first

[hot folio]

The song is actually really catchy

[inland hound]

Yeah

Like the entirety of the internet is designed to be

[hot folio]

Almost too catchy lol

[rich wraith]

Is this normal for battlefront?

Seems really weird

Getting 80-90 fps on high settings

[hot folio]

What resolution?

[rich wraith]

1080p

[hot folio]

One sec let me test it out

I’ll get back to you in 5 or so minutes but it doesn’t look right

[rich wraith]

Thanks, I realize that I'm using a single pcie power cable from my 850w psu, maybe I should use 2 instead

[hot folio]

That would definitely help out but I doubt that’s the reason of low FPS

Yeah I’m getting around 180-200 on 1080p ultra with my 6800xt

Are drivers up to date?

[rich wraith]

you probably have a better processor though

yeah, latest drivers, win 10 and 21.6.1 drivers

[hot folio]

Also there’s a big chance it’s the processor

I could test it out tomorrow since I have a 6700k lying around

[rich wraith]

whats your processor?

[hot folio]

Currently it’s a 5900x

[rich wraith]

I've never overclocked a gpu before, why is the clock speed so low?

[hot folio]

I’m looking at some benchmarks between a a 10900k and a 6700k and the difference is about 33% FPS wise at 1080p but it shouldn’t be 90 FPS low

[rich wraith]

I'm getting more usage in the menu

This is in the freaking menu

[hot folio]

Is it only battlefront or is it the same in other games?

[rich wraith]

Horizon zero dawn I'm getting 80-90 fps solid on ultra

[hot folio]

What does the GPU usage look like on other games?

Is it hitting 100%?

[rich wraith]

No, never

figured it was the bottleneck

cpu usage at 100%

[hot folio]

Try setting the render resolution to like 4K and see what happens

[rich wraith]

it gets pretty bad

[hot folio]

I’m not talking performance wise but like gpu usage and clock speed

What do they look like?

[rich wraith]

its not letting me see the amd window at the same time

[hot folio]

Try bringing it down to 1440p and trying again

[rich wraith]

4k

1080p reliant more on cpu I guess

getting about 90 fps on ultra at 1440p

dx12 isn't enabled

[hot folio]

That’s still low

You should be getting around 140

Try enabling DX12

[rich wraith]

Just froze and crashed

I very much regret buying amd

Was disappointed from the moment I opened a game and it was worse performance than my 980 ti

[distant bramble]

Aaaaaa I managed to land a 3070 TI in the zotac event earlier tonight. Pretty happy with that because I've been trying for months to get a card

[inland hound]

What’s the deal with Zotac 3070s amiright?

No, seriously, what’s their deal

This is some of the first I’m hearing of the 3070Ti

I’ve been ootl

[distant bramble]

https://www.zotac.com/us/product/graphics_card/zotac-gaming-geforce-rtx-3070-ti-amp-holo

That's the one I managed to grab.

It wasn't exactly what I was looking for but beggars can't be choosers and I got it at MSRP

[rich wraith]

DX12 was better except for it loading for like 20 minutes in the loading screen and before going into a mission. Hope it doesn't do that each time. About 113-140 fps in felucia, 1440p. But there's this weird white tint to everything, not super horrible, but still. Very disappointed in this whole process

I feel like if I win the shuffle again I'm going to buy an nvidia card and sell this hunk of junk

[inland hound]

DX12 does not work on NVidia cards

30-40FPS on 3070 in Battlefront II

[inland hound]

I mean this for Battlefront II btw, nothing else afaik

1440p, max settings

[night abyss]

hjönk

[magic wing]

hjonk hjonk am goose

[rich wraith]

I decided to pull up a clip of me playing r6s on vulkan with my 980ti vs me playing now (same exact settings) getting less FPS now than I was before.

160 with 6800xt and 190-220 with 980ti

dx11 also getting less fps than before

I don't understand this, it's impossible for a 5 year old card to perform better than a 6800xt

Pretty pissed honestly

[cerulean rover]

Keep in mind r6 is very CPU bound at 1080p or 1440p, and Vulcan affects different architectures differently.

[normal hawk]

Were you playing ultra low settings or something? At 1080p minimum on medium a 980 to gets just over 100fps

[cerulean rover]

Uh

That sounds CPU bound

[normal hawk]

Oh 980

[cerulean rover]

980ti is basically 2060, and 2060 in gn testing got like 200 fps on 1080p ultra iirc

[normal hawk]

He's talking about a specific game.

[cerulean rover]

Yes

And I'm talking about the same specific game

[cerulean rover]

2060ko with 240fps at 1080p basically ultra, timestamp 13:00 because doesn't work on mobile.
https://youtu.be/3C-RoDtqdJ8

Anyways I feel like it's just a really CPU bound situation

[normal hawk]

I play that game and I don't even get that kind of performance when i had a 2060. Definitely would be CPU then.

[cerulean rover]

I play that game too, but again, CPU bound.

[storm ginkgo]

hi everyone
so i needed some advice
i found a couple of gpus on sale near me, specifically an evga ftw3 rtx 3080 for 600$, a 2080ti liquid cooled msi for 300$, an rx 6800xt for 550$, and a 6800 for 400
which one offers the best value?
i currently have an r5 3600 so i dont think the 3080 would necessarily be a good option lol

[halcyon plover]

Buy all of them tbh

[storm ginkgo]

haha

[halcyon plover]

Save the 308p

3080

And sell the rest

[storm ginkgo]

i can only buy one as of now sadly

[halcyon plover]

But it sounds like a scum

3080 ftw3 for 600?

[storm ginkgo]

theyre used i believe

i shoulda mentioned that sorry

[halcyon plover]

Still worth it if they are working

[storm ginkgo]

yeah

[halcyon plover]

Is it from facebook marketplace or something?

[storm ginkgo]

which one tho

no its from a website called olx

basically the ebay of india

[halcyon plover]

Best value is the 2080ti

[storm ginkgo]

where would i put the radiator tho

[halcyon plover]

3070 performance for 300 $ sounds not real

Mount it on the case-_-

[storm ginkgo]

i have a phanteks p360a and the front is used by a 240mm rad lol

ig ill just have to use the rear 120mm slot

as exhaust

[halcyon plover]

If you dont want a aio cooled gpu get the 3080 ftw3

[storm ginkgo]

there wont be any bottlenecks with that and a 3600 at 1440p yeah?

[halcyon plover]

Just care from scums because it is probably

[storm ginkgo]

mhm

[halcyon plover]

No

[storm ginkgo]

alright

time to make my dad see sense in this because 600 here is pretty damn expensive 🙂

i showed him the price tag and he was like

nope

[halcyon plover]

Check reviews on the site first and make sure you can get your money back if you get scumed

[storm ginkgo]

ok so

the guy selling the 6800 responded

none of the others did tho

[normal hawk]

Do any of you think the price of the 6000 series GPU's will fall or will it remain higher than what was established as MSRP at places other than Amd.com

[storm ginkgo]

@halcyon plover the 3080 guy said this

what do you think

scam or not

[heady turtle]

If someone says this is our 100% sure deal that's sketchy af

[magic wing]

scam

3080 for 45k is a scam

are they asking you to send the money via online transfer

@storm ginkgo

[storm ginkgo]

they havent said anything about payment yet

[magic wing]

Yep theres no way ur gonna get a 3080 here for 45k considering the 2070 goes for more

[heady turtle]

That's like 900$ right?

[magic wing]

600

[heady turtle]

Still what "documents and company documents" would they have??

[heady turtle]

Jeezus lol that's 100 under msrp lmaooooo

[magic wing]

exactly

the 2070 goes for 50k here

[storm ginkgo]

yeah true

[magic wing]

yeah thats 100% a scam

[storm ginkgo]

it also just listed

today

[magic wing]

its a scam no matter when it listed

[storm ginkgo]

aight

how about the 6800 then?

@magic wing

[magic wing]

what is it priced at

[storm ginkgo]

30k

[heady turtle]

Lmao scam

Bruh

Anything below msrp is a scam

[magic wing]

thats a 1660 super

[storm ginkgo]

yeah

okay im beginning to think this actually is a scam

[heady turtle]

Duh

[heady turtle]

Read this @storm ginkgo

If you find something at msrp there's a slim chance it could be a legit person that's being nice but anything under msrp is 1000000% scam

[storm ginkgo]

mhm

ok i aint doing anything with this guy anymore

[heady turtle]

Lol

[magic wing]

yep payment first

exactly what I thought

[storm ginkgo]

he said that i can go pick it up locally

which honestly is a bigger risk

i live in the same city that he said he was in

[magic wing]

if you want you can go check it out

and pay on the spot

make sure the card is legit first

[storm ginkgo]

he said something that i couldnt understand

[storm ginkgo]

how should i make sure?

[magic wing]

look at it in the box

make sure its a genuine card

like its what it says it is

[heady turtle]

You're welcome -evga

:o illegal

But why not get extra money lol? It's still money like 100/month or so

Fair

Ehh idc my name is a famous irish poets so it's impossible to find me lol

What name

[magic wing]

WHAT DID I MISS

@heady turtle

[heady turtle]

Posted email with my name lol

[magic wing]

i missed it 😦

[heady turtle]

Ye lol idc if ppl know my name but decided incase anyone malicious came along they wouldn't know my name although impossible to find me as same name as irish poet lol 😎

[shy forge]

is gpu stock starting to go up finally?

[magic wing]

Wait ur an irish poet?

[heady turtle]

Very hard to tell but don't think so

[magic wing]

not really

[heady turtle]

Yes ofc definitely me and not same name, thet may or may not be deaded

[magic wing]

Wait ur deaded?!

Pato answer honestly

are you a zombie

or a vampire

[heady turtle]

A ghost duhh

[magic wing]

ghosts dont have fingers to type more than I do on here

smh

[heady turtle]

how would you know??

[magic wing]

Some of my best friends are ghosts

my mum says they arent real

but they are

ull see

They are

they said so

[heady turtle]

Can't argue with that tbf

[rich wraith]

My cpu hasn’t changed, I’ve only gotten a better gpu. This is still frustratingly disappointing spending 1400$ on a card and I have to drop another chunk of money on a cpu, motherboard, new ram, an m.2 ssd (because it’d be foolish not to take advantage of gen 4) and there’s still no guarantee that things will get any better. From my point of view, amd is complete garbage and gets beaten by a 6 year old card on cpu bound games.

[supple socket]

No it's foolish to take advantage of gen 4

[magic wing]

gen 4 does nothing for ya

nothing can really saturate a gen 3 slot in the consumer space tbh

[karmic crag]

tasty newegg souffle today:
https://www.newegg.com/product-shuffle

[normal hawk]

Ye

[normal hawk]

Doesn't it depend on what you're doing with it?

Gaming? Yea it's pointless. But in professional use cases with larger file sizes it's nice to have.

[magic wing]

not really

[rich wraith]

Exactly. Gen 4 is still developing tech, it hasn’t reached its peak operating capacity yet. I’m only using sata SSDs, moving to gen 4 will be a crazy difference either ways

[normal hawk]

If you're only gaming save money

or get capacity instead. You could probably get a 2TB gen 3 for the price of a 1TB gen 4

[magic wing]

p31 is a gen 3 drive thats beats most gen 4 drives lol

You can get it

[normal hawk]

Yeah sorry the article said "17 hours ago" on google, but was written at the beginning of the year

[heady turtle]

You would be foolish to get a gen 4 because a sk hynix p31 will be your best option and is gen 3

[heady turtle]

Also amd makes some really good products lol, of you're playing a cpu bound game then you're not really gonna see an increase unless you were coming from a good bit of an older card

[heady turtle]

Tbf 980 pro can be useful in workstation type situations

[rich wraith]

The cpu, game, graphics settings, and vulkan engine haven’t changed. The only thing that’s changed is the gpu, supposedly an upgraded one at that. If a 6 year old nvidia card runs better on the engine that was designed BY AMD FOR AMD CARDS, there’s a problem in my mind with the AMD card I just bought.

[magic wing]

yee I said said for consumers

[hot folio]

Lmao if you got a 3080 it will still perform VERY similarly with your current CPU

Your current CPU is holding you back by a substantial margin

[normal hawk]

Yeah, a 4c/8t CPU is like, low tier now. Don't 10th and 11th gen i3's beat it out at stock settings?

[hot folio]

Yeah they do

and why did you buy the 6800xt for 1.4K?

[mellow glen]

Hmm should I trade my 3080ti for a 3080 and cash🤣

[normal hawk]

How much cash

[mellow glen]

He offered 300 but I’m asking for more lmao

[normal hawk]

How much did you pay for it?

People still make blower cards?

[hot folio]

Isn’t that the AIO version?

[normal hawk]

Yeah, actually.

I'm just dumb

[hot folio]

Lmao

But I think there are a couple blower 3070s

[normal hawk]

Open box is more than what new would be lol.

New of course is out of stock though

[hot folio]

Damn I just realized I could’ve gotten that model for 1.6k at microcenter the day when I bought my 6800xt

Open box tho

[normal hawk]

Anyone want 473 GPUs? 🤣

[heady turtle]

Ehhh did you install amd drivers, uninstall nvidia drivers, if not use ddu then reinstall the drivers, did your perf drop or stay the same? Because if it stayed the same then its a cpu bound game you're playing

[keen nacelle]

Yeah maybe then I can run cyberpunk with all of them in a single pc

[magic wing]

nope

cyberpunk doesnt support sli

[keen nacelle]

It was a joke '-'

Most games don't now

Just wondering what cards they are

[rich wraith]

I used DDU in safe mode, uninstalled everything nvidia. Installed AMD drivers. Running the latest versions. Performance is worse in some games. Rainbow Six Siege & Minecraft are much worse. Horizon zero dawn & battlefront 2 are better at higher settings, but still getting lower than average performance while overclocked.

[magic wing]

latest or WHQL?

[normal hawk]

The manifest says they are all about 20$ cards.

[keen nacelle]

That wouldn't even be a 710 then

Maybe gtx 200 series? Off brand gpus?

[rich wraith]

Latest. I was told whql was like a development version

[magic wing]

whoever told u that is wrong

whql means Windows Hardware Quality Labs Testing

[rich wraith]

Oh are we talking groundbreaking performance improvements or something

[magic wing]

which means its been widely tested

we are talking better stability

[rich wraith]

Hmm. Well I’ll try it when I get home

[normal hawk]

These would probably be ones you can recognize

They aren't really "20$" GPU's, just listed as such

[heady turtle]

That's weird, although rainbow and Minecraft are cpu bound games

[supple socket]

#rules

[gusty tiger]

https://tenor.com/view/what-what-up-hey-baby-sup-gif-15082816

[heady turtle]

Hi tank

https://tenor.com/view/tank-gif-10952763

[vital pivot]

I just check my evga queue. Apparently my only hope for a evga 3080 is the glorious shuffle.

[split parrot]

yep

same with me

i've been in the shuffle everyday they have it and win nothing

[rich wraith]

I won the shuffle twice and didn’t buy anything because I was expecting my 6800xt.

[grim zodiac]

Says newegg has 1050 TIs in stock for msrp?

Legit?

[heady turtle]

Link? It sounds like a scam 3rd party seller

[grim zodiac]

https://www.newegg.com/msi-geforce-gtx-1050-ti-gtx-1050-ti-4gt-oc/p/N82E16814137055

[heady turtle]

That is not msrp, 300$ yikes

[grim zodiac]

Right thought so

But I don't have a card at all so I can't use my pc. Don't want to settle for a gt 730

Worth a buy?

[heady turtle]

Hell no, you'd be way better getting a 1070 or 1060 6gb ish for that price

[grim zodiac]

Ok so like how am I supposed to do that

Lol

[heady turtle]

eBay, hardware swap on Reddit etc

[grim zodiac]

Well I have no hardware to swap so ebay it is I guess

[cerulean rover]

r/hws isn't for swapping

it's where people sell and buy things

[grim zodiac]

Either way

[heady turtle]

You swap money for parts kek

[grim zodiac]

I tried going on there and just got confused lol

[cerulean rover]

just read rules and it'll make more sense

[heady turtle]

Nono, skip rules and beg for free pc

[grim zodiac]

Y'all wonder why people call pc people toxic

[heady turtle]

Lol i was being sarcastic cus people come in here and do it all the time lol

[grim zodiac]

I just don't know a lot about gpus

1660 super for $300 sounds like a better deal tho

[heady turtle]

Deff

Bit too high for one imo but desperate times

[grim zodiac]

Imma buy it why not

[heady turtle]

If you were going to get that, someone just posted a 1660 super on newegg in #tech-deals

For 300

I would look to see what else you can find too

[grim zodiac]

I saw that when they posted it here a minute ago

[grim zodiac]

Honestly I've seen nothing that good in that price range

[heady turtle]

Keep an eye out for 980(ti), 1070/1080(ti) as well

[grim zodiac]

I'm just gonna get the 1660 I think, I don't really care about high end cards rn and just wanna use my pc lol

[heady turtle]

Okay but i would buy the one on newegg then, also they are old high end cards but on par/better than fhe 1660 super but could be better value

[grim zodiac]

Yeah

Everything about the listing seem legit to you?

Never bought on there

[heady turtle]

Idk haven't looked on hws for the listing but as i said earlier someone posted a 1660 super in #tech-deals for 300 as well

[grim zodiac]

Imma trust it, hope I don't get ripped off lol

[astral mist]

Newegg is by far the most reputable online store for tech

[vital pivot]

So the surprise tech news for today. Evga is coming out with a AMD motherboard.

I’ve had an account with Newegg for 20 years. What you say @astral mist is true.

[rich wraith]

Minus the part about refunds

[livid idol]

If it's sold and shipped by wegg it'll be fine but the marketplace has plenty of shady dealers

[astral mist]

Was about to say that

[rich wraith]

Didn’t know your gpu didn’t fit your case? Whoops, since you opened the box you only get a replacement

[grim zodiac]

Card sold out, dunno what I expected 💀

[astral mist]

As long as the product you're buying has "Sold by Newegg" on it you're good. You can check ratings of other sellers if you're curious as well.

[grim zodiac]

Why does it still say in stock if it's not bruh

[livid idol]

ctrl+F5

[grim zodiac]

I'm assuming that means refresh

[livid idol]

It's a cache clearing refresh

[grim zodiac]

I've refreshed 7 times it still says in stock lol

I'm on my phone

[livid idol]

You can clear cache from app settings

It's non-destructive, all your data will be fine

[keen cave]

I actually got one

[heady turtle]

[vital pivot]

The wait is over.

My buddy who won the shuffle last week is selling his win to me.

[green harness]

Wow, congrats!

What are you getting?

[vital pivot]

3080ti

He has a 3060 in step up for a 3080. He’s not in a hurry to upgrade his pc.

So. My pc will be almost 100% evga.

The only non evga products would be storage and ram.

[green harness]

Nice

[brave violet]

Nice, congratulations @vital pivot

[humble oak]

anyone know in pre built PCs what card will come up?
NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3070 8GB (Brand May Vary)

This is for ADS computers sold by newegg

[green harness]

Presumably whatever they can get their hands on

[humble oak]

im surprised they can get anything honestly

[cerulean rover]

keep in mind ABS is a newegg in-house brand, they can just take some of Newegg's stock

[wispy drift]

won a shuffle for the 1st time after like 60 tries, already have a 3070ti so im gonna sell this bundle to my friend who doesn't mine the extra psu

[hot folio]

EVGA makes CPUs? 😆

[vital pivot]

Ok. My bad I forgot the i9-10900k

I’ll take a sharpie to it.

[hot folio]

haha

[green harness]

Just write "EVGA" on it in thermal paste

[hot folio]

Slap a EVGA heat sink on it as a cooler

[hot folio]

Lmao I just realized I’ve been on a crusade against Gigabyte yet one of my favorite cards rn is Gigabyte

[green harness]

Which one?

[rich wraith]

I hate intels practices but my uncle works at Intel so it’s hard to resist 50% off processors

[hot folio]

My Aorus Master 6800xt

Loud AF at max fan speed but everything else if so nice about it

[green harness]

Ah, my Gaming OC 3080 is pretty good. I just wish I hadn't had to re-pad it

[solemn panther]

https://tenor.com/view/thanos-impossible-marvel-shocked-gif-15104180

one does not simply win a shuffle

[hot folio]

If you have 50% processors why do you still have the 6700k?

[rich wraith]

Waiting for better architecture. Rocket lake was a joke

However with the new chip layout, my dark rock pro 4 probably won't be compatible

[livid idol]

10nm Intel is looking pretty hot next gen

Even so I'd wait until second gen of boards because DDR5 will take some time to work the bugs out and max out the speed

[hot folio]

Next gen I might switch over to intel depending on how the multicore is

[livid idol]

They shouldn't complain about not being able to fit everything on the chip with a smaller process size (hopefully) so we might see something that competes with the 5950X finally.

[fossil talon]

BB

Will be taking this down in a hour

[livid idol]

Great now I only need to drive for the better part of a day to get to Vancouver sometime tomorrow afternoon in order to get a GPU

[glacial kelp]

I will drive from Romania to USA anytime! if I get a MSRP 3060ti. I will even drive on the bottom of the ocean!

My 5900 CPU screams for a decent GPU, I can hear it cry in the nights

I am lieing.

I would even swim to USA for my MSRP GPU 😄

[heady turtle]

Lol

[languid plank]

I just finished my first build, all white really clean setup, really hoping to get my hands on a vision 3060 or 3060ti. Right now however i am running a gigabyte rx570 that i bought off of my brothers friend for $25. My CPU (R7 3700x) needs something better 😂 I can only run titles at 1080p on very low settings and even then still get frame drops, can't argue for $25 tho 🤷

[heady turtle]

Steal of a rx570 damm

Try overclocking your 570 btw

Should help a bit

[halcyon plover]

25$

[magic wing]

RX570 isnt as bad as you are describing it

Mine does very well

[languid plank]

I did overclock it, but for warzone and planet coaster, it doesn't really do too well

[analog wolf]

Rx480

New

[edgy egret]

My rx 580 works really good and gpu are to expensive right now so I’ll just stick to my card

[magic wing]

that ram isnt gonna fit in that mobo

[heady turtle]

That's laptop ram yea

[magic wing]

also if that is a 5800x cpu

the mobo isnt gonna run it either

[hot folio]

Yeah it’s a good mobo but it ain’t compatible

[magic wing]

it WAS a good mobo

much better parts at similar prices exist now

[hot folio]

Yeah that’s what I meant

[fossil talon]

Did you get a 3090FE ticket lol

Still banned from Lithium, but noice

[astral mist]

Yeah lmao

[fossil talon]

Gg

My friend's family are there

3070 securing and stuff

[magic wing]

@analog wolf

[heady turtle]

A 5800x would melt a b350 lel

[hot folio]

Lmao yeah

[magic wing]

pato

u want my modded copy of win 10

for oc testing?

and ocing?

@heady turtle

[heady turtle]

Uuhhhh sure , what did you do to it lol?

[magic wing]

all telemetry and poop removed

like no extra apps

[heady turtle]

Noice

[magic wing]

ill dm it to u when its done uploading

[heady turtle]

Thank

[astral mist]

Swag

[halcyon plover]

Give

Its looks like an ebay picture lol

The people that just bought from best buy and sell for 3k

[astral mist]

Kek

I might see if I can't trade for a 3080 strix + cash

[fossil talon]

Gg

[analog wolf]

I know I just got it for free with my purchase all of that came with my purchase

[magic wing]

yeah well its not gonna work

[analog wolf]

Bru I know

[magic wing]

then why flex it lmao

[half sapphire]

Boys

3070 or 3080?

I want it to last me a good 5 years

[magic wing]

3080ti

best card for gaming imo

[half sapphire]

a bit over budget

[magic wing]

then the 3080

lol

[half sapphire]

indeed

I've got an 11700k running and hoping to pair it with a new card to last me some time yea

[magic wing]

11700k lol

[half sapphire]

yep lol

Hmmm

doesn't look like any RTX cards are in stock for me

what would be the AMD equivalent

[hot folio]

6800xt on par with 3080

6800 is a bit better than a 3070 in pure raster

[vital oriole]

hard to find tho

[hot folio]

Easier than Nvidia cards tho

[vital oriole]

in what i could see it's harder than nvidia

but rn whatever you could get is best xD

[hot folio]

I always see AMD cards in microcenters

[fossil talon]

Cause no one buys AMD AIBs, way too overpriced

[heady turtle]

Yeah but lot of people don't live near microcenters lol

[mellow glen]

3080ti ?

😂

[dry pecan]

I almost had my hands on a TUF 3080 this morning on Amazon. 3 times. Nope.....

even made it to Checkout with one of them. just can't hit that Place order button fast enough I guess.

[dire hollow]

do you guys think i have a better chance to get a 3070 or 3070 ti from best buy drop?

[foggy grotto]

what is good gpu and good price right now

[clever pagoda]

The one you can buy

[rustic pulsar]

go for 2060, they go for around 500 USD on ebay, although thats a lot for a 2060, its like the most bang for buck right now

[heady turtle]

Lol

[heady turtle]

But seriously find the one that's closest to msrp and fits your budget

[wispy drift]

from Newegg shuffle yesterday

[rustic pulsar]

arrived in 1 day?

[wispy drift]

yep

still missing the psu lol

[rustic pulsar]

tf, it took me like a week to get my 3060 I won

[wispy drift]

im in cali so ig thats why

[solemn panther]

GG

[wispy drift]

yep its a beautiful card that will go to my friend who's been running a 1650 non super

[rustic pulsar]

what do u have now

[solemn panther]

awesome

[wispy drift]

3070ti

[solemn panther]

sick

have a 3070 for now

[rustic pulsar]

nice

[solemn panther]

3080ti soon

[rustic pulsar]

how much did u pay for it

[wispy drift]

paid around 600 for my 3070ti xc3 ultra

[rustic pulsar]

thats a good deal

[solemn panther]

wow thats pretty good

[wispy drift]

yep 20% discount code came in clutch

[rich wraith]

Do gpus need bios updates

[hot folio]

Nope

Mobos don’t really even need bios updates

[thick cliff]

Also depends on the mobo and why. B450 mobos, for example, need a BIOS update to run the Ryzen 3000-series GPUs

[rich wraith]

Thx

Still out of luck with my gpu

I would trade for a used air cooled 3080 at this point

[thick cliff]

Wait. Hold up. What happened?

[split parrot]

@hot folio you are kidding right?

[hot folio]

When there’s nothing wrong with the bios you really shouldn’t touch it

Only reason to update is like to support a new series of CPUs or something like that

But for the fun of it you shouldn’t touch it

[split parrot]

I beg to differ but what I believe doesn't matter

[thick cliff]

You do realize that there are BIOS-resident viruses and malware re-emerging, right? BIOS updates provide better security against that stuff.

[hot folio]

They’re coming back?

[dreamy dragon]

AlecFencer#2894 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

[thick cliff]

They have been coming back. Hackers figured out how to bypass the security that UEFI provides, by using the BIOS.

They directly bypassed SecureBoot by directly targeting the BIOS with malware.

[split parrot]

Yep it's pretty sad

[hot folio]

Yeah I take back what I said , wasn’t on top of that recently

[thick cliff]

And it has been made known that now they are making ransomware BIOS-resident

And this is probably the most sinister way of using ransomware because it survives even a hard drive reformat

[hot folio]

He thinks that his 6800xt is bad because of a bottleneck with the 6700k

[magic wing]

sometimes

[split parrot]

Gpu bios updates are rare

[magic wing]

you had to flash 30 series cards a while back to get resizable bar

[hot folio]

Don’t think I ever had to update the GPU’s bios

[thick cliff]

The 6800XT isn't the problem.

[hot folio]

Yeah I know

[split parrot]

Some of the evga cards in the past needed a bios update

[thick cliff]

The problem is he is using an EOL'd Intel CPU

[hot folio]

I know, i even tried the same combo as him 6700k/6800xt on battlefront 2 at 1080p exact same FPS he got

It aint the GPU

[thick cliff]

What FPS is he getting?

[hot folio]

about 90

hes saying his 980ti is performing better than it

[thick cliff]

He needs to get a better processor

[rich wraith]

Good to know that. Thanks for trying it for me. I think I’m going to wait for comet lake

[rich wraith]

I just really want to know why it's performing worse with the same specs, justa better gpu

[winged grotto]

6800 tuf in stock

1000 total, cheaper than other aib cards.

[gentle jay]

i've got a mostly dead rx 460, only signs of life are the pci-e power light and a slight fan spin when shutting the pc off

is there anything i can do?

[hollow raptor]

Have any gpus dropped on BBuy since the drop last week

[mellow glen]

no, check next week

its every other week for BBH

[rich wraith]

Describe more symptoms.. Does it display?

[magic wing]

is only one display port dead of have you tried em all

@gentle jay

[gentle jay]

no video, no fan spin, doesn't even show up in the bios

[gentle jay]

yeah, no video from any

[magic wing]

then nothing you can do really

[astral mist]

3090 FE is so huge

I actually can't get over this thing

[magic wing]

Keep it on the floor and jump over it

Hehe

[astral mist]

[sonic vigil]

DISASTER!

I've got a EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 XC3 ULTRA HYBRID en route

it won't fit vertically in my case, without replacing my CPU cooler

the thing is ridiculously... is wide the correct dimension? Mounted vertically it would be tall... so tall

and then while it would just clear my CPU cooler...... it has two hoses right where the cooler is

[green harness]

Solution: mount it horizontally

Solution 2: Buy a new case

[sonic vigil]

that's an ugly solution -- but one I will have to do in the short term certainly

[green harness]

I don't find horizontally mounted GPUs ugly at all

[sonic vigil]

I've been looking at a few solutions, the simplest is probably just get an AIO for CPU

[green harness]

And a lot of the time it is better to mount them horizontally particularly with all the issues with risers currently

[sonic vigil]

issues with risers? I investigated pretty heavily and saw a negligible impact

[green harness]

A lot of risers aren't actually able to run pci-e 4.0 which can lead to weird issues. This is fixed by switching them to 3.0

[sonic vigil]

including 3090 benchmarks with and without

I have intel 10 gen

so not an issue

[green harness]

A lot of cases still choke air to vertically mounted GPUs. Not necessarily an issue in yours, but another consideration in general

[sonic vigil]

hybrid cooler, and I've got an air channel specifically to bring air in front of the card, because yes, the gap between the glass and the card will be smaller than I'd like -- as only dual slot though it's better than it would be with most other cards

[magic wing]

ehhh

look into something like a 5000d airflow

[sonic vigil]

that looks almost identical internally to my case

the biggest difference is venting at the top rear of the case

oh nevermind though, looks are deceiving

that is a big longer and a lot taller than mine

[magic wing]

What case you got rn?

@sonic vigil

[sonic vigil]

Thermaltake Commander C31 TG Snow ARGB ATX Mid Tower Case

[magic wing]

Not great for vertical mounting

[sonic vigil]

why is that?

[magic wing]

Small amount of space

[sonic vigil]

I really don't get that -- I have a super oversized air cooler on cpu, and there would be plenty of room for almost any other video card

my cooler is about 135mm wide

[magic wing]

5000d airflow has lower gpu vertical mounting

Hence the cooler wont interfere

[sonic vigil]

I'm not saying that one isn't better for that, just that in MOST scenarios this one would be fine

I had to hit a pretty extreme oversized parts to have an issue

I'm not defending them or anything, other than owning one I have no skin in the game

[magic wing]

Why concern yourself with scenarios that dont apply to you

[sonic vigil]

and if I'd known about that case I may not have bought this one

[magic wing]

See how much lower the gpu is in that pic

As compared to your case?

[sonic vigil]

I'm just saying, as you said as a generalized statement that it's not great for vertical mounting, that in most scenarios it's perfectly fine --

doesn't really look any lower to me -- not saying it's not, that case is a lot taller afterall, but it doesn't LOOK it from that image to me

[magic wing]

I made that statement after looking at the gap between the glass and the card lol. Nothing else

[sonic vigil]

indeed, the case could certainly be wider, and I always wished it had been wider

as it is I had to take a hacksaw to the case to fit one of my mods

part of the reason I hate the idea of switching to a new case

[magic wing]

Thats your case

See the difference?

Another angle of your case

[sonic vigil]

again not really, two different angles, I'm looking for something to clearly judge height compared to the MB and failing to see it -- I'm again not claiming you're wrong, just that I can't judge the vertical height of the cards very well

[magic wing]

What mod would this be?

[sonic vigil]

a 14.9" vertical stat panel

[magic wing]

Pull product sheets from both sites i cant as im on mobile. Ill get on pc in an hour to help more

[sonic vigil]

which honestly might fit in the 5000d without modding the case

[magic wing]

Very likely

[sonic vigil]

it seems to have a few cm between the shroud and the glass where mine had nothing

I don't know that you could have fit a bare thin laptop LCD between my glass, nevermind something with a more substansial thickness

the one issue I would have with the 5000D (that I can fix with a dremel) is no place for my 5" stat panel

I currently use the PSU viewport in the shroud to mount that

but, again, that's something I can solve -- what I can't solve, in the short term, is the lack of funds to buy a new case 😄

I just shelled out 2400$ for the 3090

but that's a short term issue

I will say though that that looks like a far smarter designed case overall than mine, and that side rad mount is lovely

[magic wing]

The corsair X000D airflow series cases make other cases look like chimps

[normal hawk]

I wish I had a 3090

[tall tendon]

Had them on the shelf at my local Microcenter yesterday

[uneven bolt]

for how much?

[drowsy kiln]

My cousin texted me a picture of his sons computer last night... I was appauled to see two SLI 3090s in the system.

[green harness]

I really hope they're doing more than gaming, but based on that I assume they're just playing CSGO and Fortnite or something

[drowsy kiln]

Yea... its worse than that

Currently he plays Minecraft and Roblox...

[green harness]

Wow

[uneven bolt]

...

[sonic vigil]

............

Just... why?

[drowsy kiln]

Yeah. Thats what I said

[sonic vigil]

See, I'm an indie game dev, so I can use the extra vram if nothing else -- though honestly it might be more card than I need

[drowsy kiln]

Yeah, but SLI is so pointless like 105% - 115% performance at most really sometimes not even that

[green harness]

I mean they probably aren't even getting anything from SLI when gaming right?

Games don't even really support it anymore do they?

[drowsy kiln]

It gives you a bit more, but minimal

[sonic vigil]

I thought NVLINK which replaced SLI made it a bit more relavent and better again

not GOOD, not something I'd recommend outside of niche needs, but better

for gaming, the only reason I could see at all would be like 8k... but then just wait for better cards

[heady turtle]

I mean who realistically has a 8k display and can even take advantage of it, instead of it just being a flex lol

[normal hawk]

Why though

[drowsy kiln]

Yeah asked myself many times last night

[normal hawk]

Honestly, i hate the pcmr subreddit for that exact reason.

They get those and it's such a waste but it keeps people who'd actually use them from getting them :(

[drowsy kiln]

It really is like around 5k spent on GPUs alone

[normal hawk]

Your cousin bought it for their son? Insanity

[drowsy kiln]

Then another $1000 on CPU, they have 256gb of ram so yeah another idk $500 something, plus fully custom looped with dual 480mm rads and a 240mm

[normal hawk]

Tf

They bought a threadripper huh?

[drowsy kiln]

I thought it was a 5950x but yeah didnt think of 256gb of ram on B550 or even X590

Gotta be a threadripper

[normal hawk]

Talk some sense into your cousin.

[drowsy kiln]

Tried. Offered to take 128gb of ram and a 3090 😂

[normal hawk]

Such a waste

[drowsy kiln]

My server only had 96gb and I've got what 10 or so Linux VMs running 24/7 without any issues

Who needs 256

[normal hawk]

Pixar and other animation studios.

[drowsy kiln]

Yeah but hes playing Minecraft and Roblox and to my knowledge not even streaming

Build is going to look clean, but also why

[normal hawk]

I'll build a PC that looks like it, we'll swap em like Indiana jones

[drowsy kiln]

Gets the useless sticks of just the RGB ram

Gets some GTS 450s and throws AROUS 3090 shrouds on them

[sonic vigil]

I was ALMOST dumb enough to go 128... but I don't NEED 128 for my uses

I got 64GB with the option to upgrade later, but honestly, by the time I'm likely to need 128+ I'll have a new new PC

I was just BARELY, sometimes, capping out my 32GB in my old system

for whatever reason though, with 64GB, it seems I use more ram

28GB in use and I'm not even really doing anything -- all dev apps are not installed yet as I only recently reinstalled windows and have no card

[normal hawk]

The more ram you have, the more it'll use

[sonic vigil]

MoUsoCoreWorker.exe is using 10GB >_>

[heady turtle]

Max for Ryzen is 128gb lol

[sonic vigil]

aren't there boards with 8 slots? or just CPU mem limit?

[normal hawk]

They probably got a threadripper, but the cheap 16 core one 🤮

[sonic vigil]

If you're going to go TR, go all the way TR... or else just why? 😄

[drowsy kiln]

Yea realized that now

[sonic vigil]

If I'm spending that much on a processor I'm getting the high end 😄

[normal hawk]

Well getting 2 3090's and that much ram tells me they wouldn't know much about pc's

[sonic vigil]

hahaha fair

that seems like something a 12 year old that's heard of the parts, but has no concepts of needs, bottlenecks, or functionality would build 😄

[normal hawk]

Yea lol

[sonic vigil]

I just bought my 5th monitor >_>

[normal hawk]

I knew a lot of people who got the first gen threadripper and thought they had a great gaming PC, not realizing that core clocks matter more than core count.

[sonic vigil]

that's all I can support, I believe, without a usb dongle (which I have) or a second video card

oh indeed, few games use that much multicore, if any. 8 cores is as far as I know PLENTY for almost all current gaming

[drowsy kiln]

Yeah I was going to buy first gen when it went on sale for $150 would have been an upgrade for my VM server but then realized mobo prices and yeah

[sonic vigil]

I was also looking at first gen, then I saw the core speeds and quickly dropped that idea

[normal hawk]

At that point just get a refurbished workstation PC with a dual CPU.

[drowsy kiln]

Oh yeah was hoping I could find some used board for like $100 or something but they were all $300+

[sonic vigil]

oh got... I almost bought a dual CPU board back in like... 2007

I wanted to run dual-quad cores

[drowsy kiln]

I've got a dual CPU board in my server now just the processors need to be upgraded

[sonic vigil]

back when people were calling me crazy for getting a quad core

I mean don't get me wrong, I am a little crazy. I battle that when buying... I always want the best even when I don't need it

I almost certainly didn't need a 3090... but with the pricing of 3080 and 3080ti, and the price I got the 3090, it just made sense to me

[normal hawk]

If i was home I'd have a better time getting GPUs

[sonic vigil]

where is home?

[normal hawk]

Minnesota. I'm still in the Middle East though.

2 more months 😤

[sonic vigil]

My friends in Canada seemed to have a relatively easy time

Oh, yeah, I can't imagine the middle east is a haven of computer parts 😮

[normal hawk]

Well i can't leave base. So online orders are my only option, but the internet is too slow to compete with bots

[sonic vigil]

I'm in Miami area, so I too must only purchase online, because... FLorIda

Sometimes I wonder why I live in Florida.... then I jump in the Ocean in October and remember

[normal hawk]

The microcenter near where i live has 6000 series GPU's but those make more sense to try to get from AMD for half the price lol

So i rely on Newegg shuffles

[sonic vigil]

I was doing shuffles, but I just had to give up

I just needed a card, and was willing to swallow the extra cost

and I mean honestly a shuffle would have had me paying as much, or more, but it might have included a monitor

I just shelled out another 275$ to get a 5th monitor and a dual monitor arm

[drowsy kiln]

Yeah my MC has has 3070s and 3080s coming in most weekends debating taking off work on Friday and camping out at some point

[sonic vigil]

You guys are lucky to even have MC >_>

[normal hawk]

Not like i can go to mine :p

[sonic vigil]

well true

[drowsy kiln]

I know. mine is so close too its a 25 minute drive without traffic

[sonic vigil]

but couldn't you send family?

[normal hawk]

My sister went there to get me the 5950x though

RTX cards never stay in stock. So not reliably no

[drowsy kiln]

They dont sadly, but if your first in line on a Saturday morning your getting one pretty much

[sonic vigil]

My closest is a 10hr drive with no traffic

and I sold my car a few years ago, so it's like a 57 hour bike ride 😄

[drowsy kiln]

Yeah currently its a 27 minute drive, not bad at all

[sonic vigil]

Though... if there was a safe route, honestly a 650 mile bike ride, and back, could be a real wild ride!

The farthest I've gone is 70 miles

and frankly that was supposed to be 70 miles and then back, but I had to call for a pickup 😄

[drowsy kiln]

I've been debating that for some time now. I've got friends about 300 miles from me and honestly a bike ride that goes through 5 different states sounds like a fun time

[sonic vigil]

the biggest worry for me is safe biking routes

[normal hawk]

Minnesota has some nice routes

You could bike from the twin cities all the way up to Duluth. There are hotels/inns/motels along the way.

[sonic vigil]

I used to live just north of Duluth actually

\most of my Family is there

[drowsy kiln]

Yeah. I'd have to get to NYC and then I could bike a canal the rest of the way

[sonic vigil]

just across the border in a city called Thunder Bay

[fossil talon]

Yea we Canadians just had a BB drop yesterday

Alot of 3070s/3060s/3090s

Still short on 3080s

[normal hawk]

Nice

[sonic vigil]

Nice. I think my friend got a pc through memex, and he had to wait a bit for a gpu, but it was only a few weeks

That's was in december

Meanwhile I managed to backorder a 3080 on April 02, and I canceled the backorder yesterday

They projected 2 weeks, but then said it might take up to 2 months

Yeah.... they shouldn't make promises they can keep :0

[dreamy dragon]

WheeledBuckle3#4200 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

[fossil talon]

3080s are unicorns

[heady turtle]

What's the point in that unless you needed ecc ram lol

[heady turtle]

Not consumer level boards thats the threadripper and up

[supple socket]

3080 super doesn't exist lol /s

[fossil talon]

Ahhhh facts

[green harness]

I mean they also put two 3090s in SLI for Minecraft. The point was just to spend money

[fossil talon]

Ive only been abled to get a 3080 Vision/Suprim X in January and then a 3080 XC3 Ultra in may

Those 3080 are friend's or friend's friend order

I just want 3080FE for myself

[sonic vigil]

Neither do Unicorns! Fact!

[supple socket]

Yes

[sonic vigil]

lol I always wonder what people said when they get warned... it happened to me, and what I said was so mild it could probably go on daytime broadcast television.

[mellow glen]

Should I trade a 3080 for a 6900xt 🤔

[sonic vigil]

lol

honestly no

unless you WANT amd specifically I see no performance reason to do it

[heady turtle]

[heady turtle]

I wouldn't trade the upgrade in pure fps for the features like dlss, nvenc encoder and better rt performance if you care about that

[spiral nova]

what card is best for new miner?

[green harness]

A non-LHR 3060Ti probably

Or maybe like a Radeon 7

[cerulean rover]

radeon 7 hard asf to get tho

[green harness]

Non-LHR 3060Ti probably too

[drowsy kiln]

Mining will be dead in a few months though with ETH 2.0

[green harness]

Not as hard since it's not EoL though

Well eth mining might be, I'm sure mining won't die though

[drowsy kiln]

Will become very small profit margins, as a gamer passive mining sure but guilding full rigs will make less sense

[split parrot]

Blonde bangs? People still play Minecraft?

[clever pagoda]

Nobody wants to buy my 3070ti strix 😦

[lone pond]

cries cuz I can’t get a 3060 at least

[halcyon plover]

Eth isnt everything there are alot of coins to mine

[split parrot]

true

it will rebound a bit

[drowsy kiln]

Still not great to go out and buy a $1000+ GPU to hope to make it back in a few months only to have mining take a turn

[halcyon plover]

yeah but if people allready have them for gaming its worth it

And big farms will still be profitable

If elec cost is low

[heady turtle]

3060 ti's are rarer than unicorns lel

[heady turtle]

Probs cuz strix overpriced, if it's the white one and a decent price for strix would already be gone lol

[clever pagoda]

Ur not wrong, it's got 2 fan headers for a case fan thoughlol

[heady turtle]

So lol?

[green harness]

I probably wouldn't run a case fan off the gpu

I like the idea of tying the fan near the GPU to GPU temps, but I also don't want to take any power from the GPU for that fan (even if it's negligible)

[heady turtle]

It's fine to do just why bother, will look messy and ehhh you can just do a better curve in bios

Also that's such an "ohh nice i guess" feature

Noone gonna pay more for it lel

[green harness]

Yeah exactly

There isn't an easy way to do it otherwise is there?

[clever pagoda]

I mean I thought it was kinda cool but who buys a GPU for an extra fan header lol

[green harness]

Somebody probably does.

[clever pagoda]

fan hubs are way less doh, just lower the price of the gpu and take out fan headers pls asus

[glacial kelp]

2 things I follow for months. A 3060ti, and my favorite pair of shorts to get more of them. None of them ever get on stock, or with a decent price.

Me lose hope.

Me sad.

[heady turtle]

That header costs them a solid 50c to put on that's not where the price comes from lol

Probs less

Probs like 5c

[green harness]

The Strix name is where most of the increase comes from tbh

[sonic vigil]

I read there's a lot of expected card sell off from of cards from. Chinese miners

I'll be mildly annoyed if the prices crashed right after I just paid so much over

But happy for everyone who can finally get a card

[coral pebble]

I got scalped 20% over msrp

So not feeling too bad about it

[sonic vigil]

75% for me

[coral pebble]

oooph

[sonic vigil]

Paid 2.4k for a 1.8k card

[coral pebble]

paid 2.9k for a 2.35k card, but I count being tqaxed so 2.5 if from retail

[sonic vigil]

Which card?

[coral pebble]

kingpin hydro

[sonic vigil]

Nice

[coral pebble]

actually competived price on them on ebay compared to other cards

don't get why

[sonic vigil]

The higher the base price I bet

Ebay makes me nervous

[coral pebble]

still strix and xtreme's selling $200 more while kingpins float around $3000 or less

[sonic vigil]

I've had so many scam sellers

Yeah, no idea... maybe because the need for a custom loop?

[coral pebble]

I suppose so, retailers see it as a markup oppurtunity while resellers see it as a negative

still guarrenteed best pcp and internals and I don't need to put a block on it, sold

I rma'd a 2080ti twice, that scared me off of custom waterblocking for good

[dreamy dragon]

Latestage#0001 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

[coral pebble]

gddr6 failure both times, I assume this gen's gddr6x might have the same problems

[green harness]

Gddr6x runs really hot

That imo is not great, but I haven't heard of it failing often

[heady turtle]

Pretty much ye lol

[heady turtle]

A lot of them 1 aren't gonna effect anywhere but asia if they are lol and 2 a lot of them are just relocating to neighbouring countries

[cosmic bluff]

on top of all of what pato said they were also you for mining 24/7 with improper cooling which most certainly means that it either damaged the card or destroyed them to where they are just paper weights

[sonic vigil]

Right, I'm not saying to buy them. But some people will, which can help alleviate demand and loosen supply

Probably no big impact, and as he said many may just move the rig to a different country

[heady turtle]

Nah miners take great care of their cards

They usually repad if it's not a good enough stock one

And running 24/7 at a constant temp might actually be better for the card than heating up and cooling down every day

[cosmic bluff]

i just know "some" dont really have the care after thy make enough money but i can kinda understand the constant warmth of the card can be good but even if some can still snag some, i dont know what they see in their mining card's value to the extent that if its still worth it

[green harness]

A cared for mining card should be a perfectly fine buy if the price is right

I would be wary about buying from miners who don't seem to know what they're doing though as they may have damaged cards with extra high temps

[heady turtle]

Mining doesn't degrade the card in any way tho, they are worth the value of any other used card tbh

[green harness]

If they're running really hot (say 110 or higher on gddr6x I think) for extended periods they could be damaging the card

If they know what they're doing they won't run cards that hot

[heady turtle]

The thing is the vram throttles at 100 or 110 anyway so

Also the only thing i would worry about is possibly replacing the fans sooner but thats it

[green harness]

At least on my card gddr6x will let itself sit at 110

And yeah fans shouldn't be too bad to replace

[heady turtle]

Yeah it will throttle at 110 for 6x

I would try get that down tho, 100 is really the comfortable max according to micron iirc

[green harness]

Yeah I re-padded. That was stock

It even hit 110 in a game

It won't pass 100 under any workload now

[heady turtle]

Ahh nice

[astral mist]

Would adding new thermal pads to my 3090 FE void the warranty?

[heady turtle]

Depends on the county and manufacturer

Idk bout Canadas laws on that

[split parrot]

Do they run that hot?

[heady turtle]

3090 vram does while mining

[green harness]

Any gddr6x runs hot, especially mining

[oak echo]

doesn't any body win something in a shuffle, I'm trying like 2 months agooo 😢

[green harness]

I won once

[oak echo]

it gaves me some of hope jeje

[split parrot]

I have no hope

I've been trying for a while

[oak echo]

[split parrot]

Every night I get home from chemotherapy to an email that states I wasn't chosen

It's routine

[oak echo]

then there is no hope jejeje

[astral mist]

the founders edition

[dreamy dragon]

Loco Coco#4971 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

[oak echo]

I wanted to upgrade my GTX 710 before of the pandemic only I could found was 1060 GB, until when it can be upgraded?

[devout berry]

GL

i went from integrated 750ti to 2070S

[split parrot]

I'm using the 11900k on board graphics

No point firing the gaming rig up. Just use my laptop

[keen nacelle]

What's your price range

[twin niche]

I’m not even greedy. I just want a damn 1660S for MSRP

I’m not mining, I’m not a scalper. I just want to have a low-end card to hold me over til next year

[split parrot]

Do you believe it will take that long?

[oak echo]

as that friend says MSRP 🙂 I'm not mining neither scalper I just wanna play hehe

[split parrot]

I want to play as well

I have a gaming laptop but it just doesn't cut it

[native fjord]

Is a 1030 Good or ?

[split parrot]

I don't think you should settle

That's a downgrade of all downgrades

Just need a vid card in time for battlefield, halo and age of empire

Have to wait it out

[keen nacelle]

Not really. I ran bo4 on it at around 50fps 1050p, its a low profile card so not powerful at all

[whole robin]

what should I get with my 5600x rn

[keen nacelle]

Anything for msrp. On the end of best gpus to pair with it, 1440p 3080/6800xt is pretty good

1080p 3070/3080, but whatever you can find for msrp really

[whole robin]

yeah I’m using 1080p

I just can’t get my hands on anything 😭

[keen nacelle]

I think a 3080 would still be fine for 1080p with a 5600x, but it'd be a little limited

Didn't say otherwise

Was just saying that with that cpu at 1080p a 3080 would be a little less utilized

[whole robin]

what about a 5600x with a 3060/ti

[keen nacelle]

3600/10400 is the perfect cpu for the 3060 ti, so you'd definitely have an overkill cpu but that's not necessarily a bad thing

[whole robin]

yeah true

I mean it would still be good

[keen nacelle]

I'm gonna be tryna trade my 3060 ti to a miner for a 2080 ti/lhr 3070

And I have a 3600, which is still decent with a 3070

Well the 9700k is pretty good with the 3070

3600=8700k

So 9700k should be fine

Cool

How's the 9900k single core performance compare?

Smthn around 10700k?

[whole robin]

is there like a certain day that 3000 series get restocked anywhere or no

if that makes sense

[keen nacelle]

Tuesday on best buy I believe

Other than that idk

[whole robin]

don’t they sell founders editions?

for msrp

[keen nacelle]

Depending on your budget, on r/hardwareswap 3070s are going for 900

[keen nacelle]

They sell every card for msrp

[whole robin]

3070 for 900?

[keen nacelle]

Better than ebay

[whole robin]

I mean