#graphics-cards

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astral mist
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What model?

sonic vigil
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yeah, 200$ over isn't as bad as me looking to pay... like 1k$ over

heady turtle
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Even these are barely worth it if your desperate bro

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And they're overpriced

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Bro you paid 2x msrp for the card

astral mist
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I could walk into my local MemX and pay $730 US for a 6700xt

heady turtle
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^

slim vessel
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XFX SPEEDSTER MERC319 AMD Radeon RX 6700 XT BLACK 12GB GDDR6

heady turtle
sonic vigil
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lol fair

heady turtle
astral mist
sonic vigil
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anyone up on what a 3080 TI :"should" be costing, if there was no shortage?

astral mist
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^$913 USD

slim vessel
astral mist
slim vessel
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so then ~$90

astral mist
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MSRP is $750 CAD

heady turtle
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I give up this guy is being stubborn and not listening lol

sonic vigil
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I'd love not to pay more than 1600$ 😄

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I'm going to do Shuffles til July 10

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hope to get lucky

slim vessel
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the RXs stopped getting into the shuffles

heady turtle
sonic vigil
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on July 8-10 a draw I'm in for one of 200 3080TI for 1450 will be done

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if I don't get that, or a shuffle, I'm just going to ge tthe best deal I can get now

heady turtle
sonic vigil
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well now being then

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I'm just done waiting

slim vessel
heady turtle
sonic vigil
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For software reasons I just couldn't justify buying an AMD card -- I'm glad they're getting so much better, but it still makes no sense to me with their current software

astral mist
heady turtle
sonic vigil
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haha I wasn't even considering for development, just for gaming.

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I honestly have not looked into how the two stack up in game dev land

heady turtle
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In gaming they even in dev work Nvidia wins

sonic vigil
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Well, that is good to know 😄

halcyon plover
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Yeah , I mean the performance drop on 3000 series is still big and most people dont use it so with amd cards its not to be considered as a feature

heady turtle
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Ye

sonic vigil
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most people don't use RT?

heady turtle
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Ye

halcyon plover
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I dont for most games

sonic vigil
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I'll use it absolutely anywhere that it's implemented okay

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I'm not a frame junky, I'm all about them visuals

heady turtle
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Rt a gimmick till it gets almost equal to raster

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And not everyone plays triple A games which have rt

astral mist
heady turtle
sonic vigil
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indeed, I believe there's what, less than 200 AAA mainstream games with some level of RT

heady turtle
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Also low and Ultra usually look almost the same to me

sonic vigil
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yeah, for esports don't use RT 😄

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that's all about the frames

astral mist
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Even for video editing Nvidia is better because CUDA rendering

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I was gonna build a 100% AMD machine, but the 6900XT didn't come air cooled and I wanted a machine full of ROG Strix parts. Then I got into video editing and Nvidia just ended up as the default option

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The liquid cooled ROG 6900XT also costs more than the ROG 3090

heady turtle
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All amd no point on purpose as SAM doesn't even fo much

sonic vigil
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Oh really? I'm only aware of SAM from Linus, but haven't seen anything specific about it's actual value

astral mist
sonic vigil
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haha well if they have their way, that's something both intel and nvidia are planning to do, but not holding my breath that if they do it they'll do it well

heady turtle
sonic vigil
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gotcha

heady turtle
astral mist
sonic vigil
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So... 2024?

heady turtle
sonic vigil
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haha 2024... I'm being overly optimistic again, aren't I?

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This feels like when I was saying "So, May?"

halcyon plover
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A year or 2 maybe

heady turtle
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2023 most likely q

astral mist
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Prices are dropping rn so maybe the scalpers will move on after a while

sonic vigil
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so just in time to get a 4080TI? 😄

astral mist
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It's weird how AMD biggest advantage on the CPU front is their biggest disadvantage on the GPU front

sonic vigil
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Are they actually dropping? A couple months ago I spent all my video card money, so I stopped paying attention

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What's that advantage/disadvantage?

astral mist
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Productivity

heady turtle
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Yeah lol blender loves Nvidia

astral mist
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AMD has all the advantage in professional level software on the CPU front, but Nvidia has CUDA, NvEnc and that other thing I know nothing about

heady turtle
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Yee

sonic vigil
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so you would recommend an amd cpu with a nvidia card?

astral mist
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Yep

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5900X is best price/performance

sonic vigil
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oh did you hear the bull...stuff that intel might be trying to lock their discreet video cards to intel CPUs?

heady turtle
astral mist
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That's only shooting themselves in the foot

sonic vigil
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I agree

sonic vigil
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wiat... 5900x is a processor?

astral mist
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5950X is better at productivity and slightly worse at gaming than the 5900X

astral mist
sonic vigil
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lol I wish AMD would use very different labelling fro CPU and GPU -- as someone who hasn't bought an AMD product since 2014, it's all very confusingly similar

heady turtle
sonic vigil
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ah, gotcha

astral mist
sonic vigil
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I bought my CPU before that came out, and because I had no GFX I was forced intel whether I wanted to or not

astral mist
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Current gen CPU, last gen GPU

heady turtle
astral mist
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IM SORRY BUT THE RADEON HD WAS THE PINNACLE OF AMD NAMING CONVENTIONS

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it was horrible from there on out

sonic vigil
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lol I ended up getting the 10850K

astral mist
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The whole R series of cards got really annoying

sonic vigil
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It was my first time I was totally interested in going AMD

astral mist
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I had two R7 260Xs (I think?) After upgrading from the HD 6870

sonic vigil
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but I needed on die video due to card shortage and money shortage

clever pagoda
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I mean nobody gonna buy their discreet gpu that matches an igpu

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you can just get an amd APU for a better value

heady turtle
sonic vigil
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right, but don't they have no igpu?"

astral mist
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I was so happy that AMD started kicking the [REDACTED] out of intel

hot folio
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Can’t wait for the day where i can say I’m running a 6800xt/6800xt

heady turtle
astral mist
heady turtle
sonic vigil
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right, so because I couldn't get a card, I HAD to go intel

astral mist
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There are plenty of GT 1030s kicking around 🤣 🤣

hot folio
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You most likely could’ve gotten like a used gt710 for dirt cheap

heady turtle
clever pagoda
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Yeah but the 5600G is basically a 1030 and a cpu for like 250$

heady turtle
hot folio
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Unless they decide to change up their naming

heady turtle
hot folio
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True true

sonic vigil
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I didn't want to spend even 50$ (I was super tight budget then) on a card that I'd not want in 3 months. I believed I was getting a card on APR02

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I really believed it 😄

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so I bought my cpu, ram, and case thinking that in april I'd kick in a 3080 because they'd be available then, and I'd be good to go

astral mist
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I was told Feb/March for my 3080 when I ordered early December

sonic vigil
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Apr02 was the date I had projected to have the money (and I had it)

hot folio
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I’m so looking forward to the day GPUs are available again

clever pagoda
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I granted you maybe sacrifice 10fps on avg but I mean i'd still say it's better than paying for a gt 1030

astral mist
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Do you really think Nvidia will continue with the naming convention they have rn? Or will they do another weird jump?

sonic vigil
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lol what are fps? that thing I get 5 or less of in blender?

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I think Nvidia will keep up with it til the 9k

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they'll skip the 8k

astral mist
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What if the next series is the 8000 series because 8k gaming

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Kek

sonic vigil
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nah they seem to hate using 800/8000

astral mist
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Was there no 800 series?

sonic vigil
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I'm assuming because the 8k series was so big before maybe?

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nope

heady turtle
heady turtle
sonic vigil
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lol intel was like "who cares if 10k is stupid? Keep going!"

astral mist
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I feel like going from 1000 to 2000 but also having 1600 was stupid

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But the 1000 to 2000 jump makes sense because brand new tech

sonic vigil
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lol the 1600 was just confusing

astral mist
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1600 was 20 series with no RT cores, yeah?

heady turtle
heady turtle
astral mist
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I feel like 4060/70/80/90 is wack too tho

heady turtle
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Nah think fine

sonic vigil
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aha fair enough, 00 as a spacer is weird

astral mist
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Imagine if instead of 2000 they went with 100

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The RTX 180Ti

sonic vigil
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I mean they did that originally did they not?

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9800 > 100

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then 100 > 700, 900, 1000

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then 2000 and 3000

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I honestly had expected the 2080 to be the 1180

astral mist
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But there was an 8800 gt somewhere along that line

sonic vigil
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8800 was before 9800

astral mist
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I only remember because I read about it being the only thing that could really handle crysis (barely)

sonic vigil
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I feel like 8800 was "the one that blew up" long long ago

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I had two 8800

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lol

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those were the day

astral mist
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Ah yes

sonic vigil
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single loud as anything blower fan

astral mist
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SLI

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CrossfireX

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Ancient technology

sonic vigil
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SLI really languished for a long time

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it saw no improvements forever

astral mist
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I remember wanting CrossfireX/SLI cards and by the time I had two cards it was basically obsolete

sonic vigil
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the faster the cards got, the slower that bridge was

hot folio
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I remember buying an RX480 in my very first build thinking if I ever need extra performance I’ll just add another one

astral mist
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I still remember going from a Radeon HD 6870 to an R7 260X and being amazed at 2GB of VRAM

hot folio
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By the time I needed extra performance SLI was gone

astral mist
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"WOW THIS IS DOUBLE THE VRAM AND PERFORMANCE FOR ⅓ THE PRICE I GOT MY 6870"

sonic vigil
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haha my first build, was... I don't even remember... pre 8800

astral mist
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Then my upgrade from twin 260Xs to a 1070 made me poop myself

hot folio
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Lmfao

sonic vigil
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I had a P2, and a P3, both off the shelf, then a custom built AMD, then a Q6600 with the 8800s

astral mist
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And now I'm grumbling over having a 3060ti instead of a 3080 or 3090

sonic vigil
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I worked in a tech center when I got the Q6600 and people were calling me an idiot for going quad core

hot folio
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Jokes on them lol

sonic vigil
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"You don't need 4 cores, you'll never use them all"

astral mist
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I kinda went "That's it, I'm done with having mid range PCs"

astral mist
hot folio
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But to be fair back then many programs didn’t take advantage of 4 cores

astral mist
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-Everyone when I bought a bulldozer

sonic vigil
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oh indeed, but I run lots of programs at once

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always have

astral mist
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And now 4 core is on the low end 🤣🤣

sonic vigil
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haha indeed, that seems quaint now

hot folio
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I’m finally glad almost all of my programs I use now for work finally started using more than one core/thread

astral mist
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10 years from now: ew, you only have 8 cores?

sonic vigil
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lol

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10 years from now I'll probably be running like 200 cores 😄

hot folio
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I still remember my Cyrix 6x86

astral mist
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"Ew you have cores? I use a spongiform quantum matrix CPU"

sonic vigil
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LOL

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I would like to see CPUs as we see them now get replaced

astral mist
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Probably some day in the next 15 there'll be a major architectural change

hot folio
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Robobrains

astral mist
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My CPU is made of meat

hot folio
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Best CPU

sonic vigil
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it is actually possible we could move to bio computing

lone pond
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Hehe

sonic vigil
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makes me think of Voyager's "Gel packs" instead of isolinear chips 😄

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ohhhhh.... when I get my new GPU I'll finally experience the failure that is Cyberpunk! 😄

clever pagoda
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why wouldn't you need 8 cores tho

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how else would you open 8 tabs in chrome

sonic vigil
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I'm sure it should be better now than it was, but I hear it's still a buggy mess

astral mist
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I can't wait to have to worry about getting my PC quality food

sonic vigil
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lol

astral mist
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"Sorry, I need a new computer, mine has a prion disease. Probably the poor quality nutrient paste"

sonic vigil
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I just honestly look forward to full dive

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though I am excited to (after I move) get my first VR setup

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I haven't tried VR since the occulus first developer version

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and THAT made me so very sick

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Ideally I want a full dive rig that can work out my body while I play 😄

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I love thinking about augmentations for technology that doesn't even exist 😄

dreamy dragonBOT
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dweam#9641 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

astral mist
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Only high end card in stock because no one asked for a liquid cooled GPU.

looking at you ASUS

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GPU costs more than my car

sonic vigil
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I'd do AIO cooled 3090

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actually the one is really pretty

tall tendon
sonic vigil
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Return where? What did you pay for it?

tall tendon
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MC

sonic vigil
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Why returning it?

spiral jewel
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So I got an XFX Speedster 6700 XT yesterday during the Best Buy drop, paid $999. Is it worth keeping at all or should I cancel my order. Feel like I’m getting gouged

lone pond
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F

sonic vigil
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lol anyone come across this "FPSMaxi" scam site claiming to be selling MSI GEFORCE RTX 3080 SUPRIM X's for 799$?

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Do people fall for that?

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It's literally the first thing google pushes me to when I search 3080

heady turtle
sonic vigil
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that's... sad. I suppose though you only need one sucker to have made whatever they paid for setting up worth it

heady turtle
sonic vigil
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I work in data, so seeing something like that really throws up alarm bells

heady turtle
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Ohh yeah but i guess if you dk why the prices are so high/not thinking 💰🤑

late haven
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Titan RTX or 3070 ti

leaden topaz
cerulean rover
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Depends on what you're doing, gaming, 3070ti, workstation tasks, that 24gb of vram on the Titan RTX might help

chrome sigil
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Is the 1650 super good for games like COD:Warzone, Rust, Apex Legends, Overwatch etc?

cerulean rover
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Well, at 1080p, if you're expecting 60fps, it'll be okay at lower settings

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Might not have fun with rust or warzone tho

heady turtle
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In overwatch

cerulean rover
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Overwatch is overwatch, but rust and warzone are probably the hardest to run, apex is a bit hard.

heady turtle
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Yeah true

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I ran warzone before on that too but that was before the state of the game today I'm sure they made it harder to run

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With all those updates

grim frost
heady turtle
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then titan

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comp on the gaming perf a bit

sonic vigil
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I feel you... I ideally don't want to spend over 2k so 3090s seem to be floating out of my hands

keen nacelle
fair tapir
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Can someone explain to me why a evga 3070 is like 1200 dollars

keen nacelle
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scalping

fair tapir
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Well sure but like

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Werent they like 700 on fb marketplace a couple months ago

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Like why did they go even higher

livid idol
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Shortage is still REALLY bad

keen nacelle
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were*

fair tapir
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Well tht sucks

keen nacelle
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its getting better

fair tapir
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I wanted to drop some money on t

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But not 1200 lol

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Id rather buy more tools :)

keen nacelle
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nick if you have reddit you could pretty easily find a 3070 for 100

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1000* sorry

livid idol
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If you can afford to wait you should do so, nvidia 4000 and amd 7000 should be out within a year or so

fair tapir
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Dont need it THAT badly

cosmic bluff
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So is a EVGA 1660 ti sx ultra for 250 a good price brand new

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A friend wants to sell it and im thinking of buying it for a friend

keen nacelle
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in this market yeah

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i think

cosmic bluff
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Hmm okay

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Cause when i bought my 1660 i got it in 2019 when it came out and got a major deal because i had elite bb membership and got it for like less than 200

clever pagoda
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Are dell laptops trash?

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It's got a rtx 2060 for 900$

split parrot
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No they are fine

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I have a Dell 2 in 1 and I love it

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Love my msi too

vagrant sleet
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how come when i increase my gpu fan speed it gets hotter

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help

tawdry kindle
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Does your PC case have good air flow all the way through?

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@vagrant sleet

vagrant sleet
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it does

tawdry kindle
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Because if it doesn't you could just be circulating hot air

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Hmmmm

sonic vigil
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Could be bad thermal contact

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I had a video card that the cooler was not mounted correctly

tawdry kindle
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Ope

sonic vigil
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in that case it will hardly matter how fast the fan goes

vagrant sleet
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maybe

sonic vigil
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it's more common in CPU than GPU because we mount our own CPU, but it happens\

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How old is the card, and has it been through any physical trauma that you're aware of (including moving systems etc)

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also new or used?

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Ah, okay, so it's certainly possible then, guessing it was bought used?

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Well, if it's not new/under warranty, and the cooler is clean, I'd personally try re-pasting-padding the cooler

vagrant sleet
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and green dots are appearing on the screen and going away

sonic vigil
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make sure all the chipsets have pads and the main chip has... I'm assuming thermal paste? It's been so many years now since I've done it

vagrant sleet
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ok

sonic vigil
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that sounds like a hot chipset to me

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ofcourse if you have any kind of warranty, go that route first

vagrant sleet
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i do not

sonic vigil
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okay -- lots of youtube videos out there on replacing the cooler, essentially follow them

vagrant sleet
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wait i just figured out what it was

sonic vigil
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just replacing with the same cooler

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oh?

vagrant sleet
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mining

sonic vigil
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a lot of used GPUs were used for mining these days, they should still function

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though mining is a lot of continuous strain

vagrant sleet
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yeah

sonic vigil
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I wish (and I don't know for a fact they don't) that video cards had something like HDDs SMART features

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I'd want to see power on time, and load time for instance

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fun fact though, silicone bedroom lube makes surprisingly good fan oil. Not one, but both of my fans on my 1080 started getting annoyingly loud, somehow they were running dry, and I had no fan oil -- one has been running silent now for like 3 years, and the other for 2

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haha not something I will go much into detail though, but far better than water based for most things, especially for fans -- don't use water based for electronics!

vagrant sleet
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lol

sonic vigil
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I think the last time we had a major launch in les than two years was the 780 > 980 series transition

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They've been almost rock solid on a 2 year track since then, so I'd expect the release in fall 2022

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Unless you're aware of something I'm not

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"...in a slide showing Nvidia’s revamped data center chip stack, the next-gen “Ampere Next” graphics architecture was listed as coming in 2022, with “Ampere Next Next” scheduled for 2024. "

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So it appears they're committed to the 2 year pattern for the foreseeable future

snow crystal
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damn... haven't success for months now with Newegg Shuffle

sonic vigil
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I mean odds aren't good

snow crystal
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I am gonna quit

sonic vigil
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I don't blame you

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but that's raffles for you

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I'm guessing your odds are gnereally less than .01%

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I've not seen any data, but I can't imagine less than 1000 people entering for a product for a day

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I wish they shared the data -- how many entries there were, what the volume available were

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I'm guessing volume numbers are low though... less than 10

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but lets say 10 -- if 1000 people enter and there are 10, that's still not a 1% chance

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assuming no duplicated winning allowed, thats a 1:1000, then a 1:999, then a 1:998 each chance is essentially still a 1:1000 chance

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same reason that each time you flip a coin it's always a 50% chance (ruling out any anomalies in the coin or any rigging by the tosser)

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so even if you had 14 heads in a row, it's a 50% chance the next flip is heads, because it always is

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heck, I just did a live raffle where the odds were like 1:360, and my wife and mother-in-law were both in it as well, and the odds are still super stacked against us

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and there were 5 draws

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I think people use lottery-logic to think they're due anytime, but even if let's say it's an even .01% chance each time (it's probably a LOT lower) -- that's a .01% each draw, being in a million draws doesn't ever increase your odds of winning any one draw

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The best thing is just to enter, because hey, why not? but ASSUME you're going to lose

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entering is free afterall

cerulean rover
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there's 2 missing pieces of data, how many GPUs, and how many people signing up, therefore, we can't make any real assertions on probability,

sonic vigil
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I already said that

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I'm just addressing the fact that entering a lot of raffles doesn't make you "due"

cerulean rover
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I'm just making clear the numbers aren't the ballpark we're talking about

sonic vigil
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oh ofcourse not, the odds are probably insanely lower

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but if they don't share the data we can't know

cerulean rover
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it's likely not in the single digit percent range, that was the point I was trying to get across, we just have no real idea, saw a report of hundreds of thousands signing up for shuffle a while back though.

sonic vigil
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that doesn't surprise me, but also depressing to know 😄

cerulean rover
sonic vigil
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and as I said I'd be surprised if the inventory on any drop is double digit, but again we don't know

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it could be 1, it could be 1000 (unlikely) they don't tell us

cerulean rover
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btw, not their speculation, they said Newegg stated the number,

Since then, we’ve wondered what kind of demand Newegg is seeing for the raffle system. On Wednesday, the retailer gave us the 100,000 number.

sonic vigil
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I'm sure the odds are better on big ticket items like a 3090

cerulean rover
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mhm

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not everyone signs up for the same thing

sonic vigil
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simply because most can't afford the price tag

cerulean rover
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there's also always just the bad deals

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the usual 1200$ 6700xt aib model, yaknow

sonic vigil
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oh ofcourse -- buy this 300$ thing you can't use too!

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I'm probably breaking down and buying from a scalper next month

cerulean rover
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Well, a chance is a chance

sonic vigil
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indeed, until I do I will enter every chance that's given

cerulean rover
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r/hws might also be good to look for the scalped-but-not-that-scalped cards

sonic vigil
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I had no money for the last 2 months, but now I have about 2k-2500k available to get a card

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indeed, even if someone isn't a "scalper" the ecosystem is what it is, and people aren't likely to sell for "good" prices

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but better supporting someone who isn't a scalper than someone who is part of the problem

cerulean rover
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there'll always be people that take advantage of the market and always people that get taken advantage of imo

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it's a sad thing but it is what it is

sonic vigil
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oh indeed, and a market like this is as ripe for scammers as it is scalpers

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haha I saw a "3090" being listed for 270$ on some art selling site (not etsy) and it's like... what idiot would ever buy this?

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and sure enough there was a review for the seller from someone who tried and got nothing

vague vine
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Guys has anyone got a MSI LHR GPU recently ?

heady turtle
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Why msi specifically lol

haughty hare
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Is there rules on trading ?

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Selling?

heady turtle
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No trading selling buying begging or giveaways

haughty hare
heady turtle
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I would recommend looking at r/hwswap if you're from NA

haughty hare
heady turtle
haughty hare
heady turtle
haughty hare
heady turtle
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:)

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Happy to help

haughty hare
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Jesus I need a 100 comment karma

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Lol

drowsy kiln
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Or a 50 day old account

grim frost
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I have that because I made an account and never used it

fiery sky
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good gpu for the current prices?

tall tendon
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3080 ti FTW3 for $1399. That's a decent price for retail. Right?

halcyon plover
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Yes

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Good price

tall tendon
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Imma risk the 30minute drive

green harness
heady turtle
cosmic bluff
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So i did purchase EVGA 1660 ti sx ultra for 250 and i come to find that msrp was 299 and it was unused and never opened but does it perform better or worse than Msi 1660 Ventus XS OC

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I want to know so i can send the better one to a friend that needs one instead of running UHD 630

lone pond
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do you have both rn?

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If so you can do a benchmark

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on your pc

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3dmark demo

cosmic bluff
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i dont have the second card as will arrive in 3 weeks

tall tendon
green harness
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Yeah, MSI, Asus, and Zotac 3080Tis have really high msrps

heady turtle
cosmic bluff
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alright well a friend is about to get a big surprise here soon then thanks again pato to coming to the rescue

heady turtle
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np :)

lone pond
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Hope your friend likes their new card!

untold ocean
#

yo whats the best price for an rtx 3090

gusty token
ancient delta
gusty token
#

@untold ocean look the pinned messages

tall tendon
#

MC has A 3080 reserved for me and I can return my over priced 3090Strix.

keen nacelle
#

Nicee

tall tendon
halcyon plover
#

👍

#

Best gpu for gaming tbh

#

Better then the fe 3090

dreamy dragonBOT
#
UltimateGrabber#3351 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

tall tendon
magic wing
#

3080 isnt as good as a 3090

#

3080ti is comparable to a 3090 in terms of gaming only

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I still wouldnt call it necessarily better

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its equal

heady turtle
#

Hi rommy aworryWave

magic wing
#

hello vram

#

i mean rommy

#

my bad

#

am sleepy

heady turtle
#

I mean if your looking for a 90 for only gaming because you just want the best 80 ti is gonna be easier to get without selling a kidney

magic wing
#

IM SORRY ROMMY ILY

magic wing
#

its at par at gaming perf

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not for other uses

#

its just the best gpu for purely gaming rn

heady turtle
magic wing
#

I mean its cheaper than the 3090 and gives the same gamin perf

heady turtle
#

Yeah but if just for gaming, it will be someone in the 0.05% that just wants the absolute best, no compromises

magic wing
#

yes but how much vram do you need for gamin

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then the 3080ti isnt a card thats made for you tbf

#

its a gamin only card

#

can do productivity very well as well tho tbf

heady turtle
#

Well fe is myth at this point

#

The thing is you can find 80 tis around 1200

#

Hehe

#

Stonks stonks1

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That was nice of dad

#

Ahj fair lol

halcyon plover
heady turtle
#

Probs just ocs better

magic wing
#

not all

#

even resolution plays a big role

halcyon plover
#

Yeah I guess, but if you just game and want the best gpu you can save some money and get a 3080ti instead of a 3090.

fossil crow
#

What’s the difference between express installation and custom installation of nvidia graphics update?

livid idol
#

Express uses default settings and is fine for most people
Custom allows you to select what things to install and where to install them

fossil crow
#

Gotcha thank you

#

Do I have to update chipset drivers too?

#

I have a amd chipset I believe for Radeon?

livid idol
#

Unless your chipset drivers are missing or you're having problems a new version fixes there's not much reason to update those

fossil crow
#

Okay I wasn’t sure if that’s something that will tell me I need an update or need to look up on my own

#

Thank you.

quartz gull
#

This makes me so sad

#

That people fall for these

#

Someone just paid $173 for a scam gpu

lone pond
#

Hey, realized you never got back to us with your issue. your computer working fine?

late haven
#

planning to switch to amd whats a good cpu for the 3060 ti

cosmic bluff
# quartz gull

i bought one as a joke for like $15 and i have it as my pfp

hot folio
#

Pick whatever is the best you can get in your budget

fossil crow
lone pond
#

Ah

#

Good luck with your surgery

fossil crow
lone pond
#

No problem! i'm fine but i was worried if you were still having issues

fossil crow
lone pond
#

👍

fossil crow
#

Hope to talk soon. Have a good night

quartz gull
thick cliff
quartz gull
#

I know

#

Last one I saw got up to $160 which is

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The biggest sad

#

I just bought a 2gb 1050 for $100

thick cliff
vital oriole
#

wait

#

that looks like a fake 1050

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1050ti i meant but still fake

thick cliff
#

Obvious fake. Easy way to tell: You can see right through the second fan

thick cliff
# vital oriole wait

It looks like someone took a GTS 850 or whatever and slapped a 1050Ti fan on it and is passing it off as a 1050 4GB

tender mulch
#

Most of em aren't even 800 series

#

They're 400-600 series XD

drowsy kiln
#

Yea thats one of the fake 1050 or whatever PCBS

tender mulch
#

Maybe a GTS250 if you're really lucky

vital oriole
#

It could at best be a GTX 550Ti

#

But generally GTS 200-400 series

thick cliff
#

Like I said, the roulette wheel that is buying something from Ebay.

tender mulch
#

Eh, fakes are ez to identify

vital oriole
#

ye

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They generally use ugly generic coolers

#

Or has obvious stuff telling that they're fake, like VGA port on a pascal card

thick cliff
#

In this case, it was obvious the fan was bigger than the entire card

crisp ocean
#

can i have an AMD and nvidia gpu in my sys running independantly

quartz gull
normal hawk
#

Nice

tender mulch
#

1080p it'll struggle a bit

quartz gull
#

2gb 1050 gets 40-60 fps at 1080p medium in a lot of games

#

She plays Minecraft at 18ish fps rn

#

She has a j1900 Celeron and 4gb of ram in her current computer

limber drift
#

Has any brought a graphic card from StockX ?

tender mulch
#

Scam

#

Don't do it

#

Reports are mixed

limber drift
#

@tender mulch ty

normal hawk
#

@quartz gull if you ever feel like giving her a slight upgrade. Buy an old dell optiplex with a 3rd or 4th gen I5/I7. They can get fairly cheap.

quartz gull
#

I'm giving her that

normal hawk
#

Oh right. Lol

#

Those cheap pre-owned dells coming in clutch.

#

I probably would have bought it too at that price just for server hosting for my brother lol.

twin berry
#

3070 ti 🥵 😍

lone pond
#

ok

midnight solar
#

Should I get a 2060-$500 or a 3060 ti -$700/$800

#

I’m not sure on what to decide myself so I’m just asking you all

green harness
#

Both of those prices are high for those cards

midnight solar
#

Yeah I’m not sure what I should do

#

I was thinking about waiting still but I’m honestly getting impatient

heady turtle
#

That's way too much for a 2060 as well

normal hawk
#

Any good deal will likely be a scam tbh. Might as well wait for it to be available readily online, get lucky with a shuffle, or buy a prebuit to get one

midnight solar
#

Alright I’ll wait and have Patience

heady turtle
normal hawk
#

True. I dunno why someone would trade down though

heady turtle
vital oriole
#

Like drivers interfering

crisp ocean
#

I’m asking cause I lowkey wanna try team red cards

#

But I don’t wanna spend a lot and then not like it

#

I know I could always sell it lmao

vital oriole
#

fair

normal hawk
#

If the market was good I'd just say get a 580 for cheap but those don't exist anymore

heady turtle
crisp ocean
#

But nvidia is also better for content creation in a few aspects + good FPS for others

heady turtle
crisp ocean
#

my 3070 gets 60

heady turtle
#

That's not right

#

They must be running different settings or something

hot folio
#

Yeah that ain’t right

crisp ocean
#

Nope it is right

#

ACV is heavily AMD optimized

#

It runs 70 realistically on all max

#

And the 6700 csn get like 12

heady turtle
#

Optimizations are only 20% max over the other options counter part

crisp ocean
#

120

hot folio
#

Are you sure you were using the same resolution and settings?

heady turtle
#

There's no way they were exact same settings

crisp ocean
#

I think it was on high instead of max

#

But still lmao

hot folio
#

That makes sense then

crisp ocean
#

I would go for a 6800 or 6800xt anyways

heady turtle
# crisp ocean

Details can make a big diff and cpu/ran can sometimes make a diff too also remember benchmarks are clean installs of windows with nothing else running

crisp ocean
#

And this is a pretty big diff

hot folio
#

And that’s why I returned my 6700xt lmfaooo

heady turtle
#

Not that big of doff between 3080 and 6800xt

crisp ocean
#

At 4k my 3070 will not be as good as an AMD card

heady turtle
#

Fallen check what detail settings they are running

#

That's gonna make a big diff

crisp ocean
#

Doesn’t say lol

#

Only says resolution

#

Doesn’t even say cpu tbh wtf

heady turtle
#

Find a diff benchmark then

crisp ocean
#

I’m not comparing it between thst

#

I’m comparing it between the 3070 benchmark and 6800xt

#

Because I know at least the 3070 given isn’t too big of a diff from my actual 3070

heady turtle
crisp ocean
#

What

#

3090 doesn’t barely run 4k

white brook
#

Anyone down to give me a 3090? I’ll trade my 3070 for it…. Lmao I’m jk btw

heady turtle
crisp ocean
#

Also 3090s are very.... Meh

#

For which game

#

ACV?

heady turtle
#

Yeah but at 4k the extra vram is a big diff

white brook
#

The only thing that makes a 3090 way better then a 3080 is that it has more VRAM

heady turtle
#

I just don't think 4k is visble

heady turtle
crisp ocean
#

It’s got a better binned die

#

They’re the same actual die

white brook
#

Ight lol

vital oriole
#

Better bin, better vram too not just extra of it

heady turtle
crisp ocean
#

I was gonna say lmao

#

3080 gets above 40

#

I need to run a 8192x MC texture pack I need a 3090

green harness
#

The 3090 is really only for people who need to vram for work, or for people with more money than sense

heady turtle
green harness
#

oh, you meant 8k?

#

No card is really suitable for 8k 😆

heady turtle
#

But still don't think there's a point of 4k display unless you're using a tv on your desk lol

green harness
#

1440p is the sweet spot right now imo

#

I don't see the point of 4k for me atm with how demanding it is and with how expensive monitors are

keen nacelle
#

But for people who play competitively or can't spend 700$+ on a monitor and the money on a high end gpu 1440p/1080p is much more sensible

#

@sterile parcel nah I prefer 8k with a gt 1030

#

Cause it can definitely output 8l

#

8k*

#

Maybe

#

I ran bo4 at around 40-50fps on 1050p

#

It was also an i5-3470 so idk if that counts

#

I didn't even know that 10 series could output 8k

green harness
#

Smooth gameplay feels better even outside of competitive games

green harness
normal hawk
#

I want to get more into level design. It's more of a hobby than anything right now.

green harness
#

Yeah I'd still count that as "work" even if you aren't being paid. Might be more economical not to get that much vram but you'd actually use it. Unlike people gaming with it

normal hawk
#

Yeah lol.

#

I have a 3080 waiting for me at home. but i always have a dual PC set up to split work from fun.

tender cedar
#

I have no graphics card

karmic crag
#

join the club

heady turtle
karmic crag
#

^^^

#

4k isn't that commercially viable right now

#

it's nice, and you get a couple brownie points for owning a 4k monitor, but it's not worth it in my opinion

normal hawk
#

How much would you pay for a 6800?

hot folio
#

1.1k max personally

normal hawk
#

I see an open box for 939$

#

At a fairly reputable store

#

Would be a replacement for my 5700 XT in my racing sim. 🤔 Not sure if i need it though

#

Would make FH5 look really good though 🤤

hot folio
#

Not a bad price

#

6700xts go for the price

#

What model is it?

normal hawk
#

GIGABYTE - AMD Radeon RX 6800 GAMING OC

hot folio
#

Not terrible

normal hawk
#

I get paid in 4 days. So i might as well 🤷‍♂️

hot folio
#

Hell yeah, go for it

#

If it doesn’t work out you can always sell it

normal hawk
#

Is this like the 5700 and 5700xt where you can flash bios to the one above or nah?

tender mulch
#

No lol

#

AMD learned from that mistake

hot folio
#

Definitely not

#

It might be possible with a 6800xt and 6900xt but I don’t want to test it out

#

Because I’m pretty sure the 6800xt is just a 6900xt with some cores disabled

tender mulch
#

Most likely physically disabled or cut from the die

hot folio
#

Most likely

normal hawk
#

Why are they making it difficult e.e

keen nacelle
lone pond
#

If i buy a 3060 ti eventually what version should i try to buy?

#

does it matter

#

like founders edition, gigabyte gaming, msi ventus etc

keen nacelle
#

Only real difference is dealing with the company itself if you have to warranty and cooling I believe

#

Evga and asus are best for warranty and tend to have good cooling

lone pond
#

Okay thanks

mellow glen
#

You guys think trading a 3070ti + 500 for a 3080ti is a good deal?

halcyon plover
#

Depends on the model

#

And if you need the upgrade

mellow glen
#

Hmm ideally was trying to trade for 3080 but some guy offered 3080ti

halcyon plover
#

Which model do you have and what you get

#

Seems fair trading tbh
1200-700=500

mellow glen
#

I have EVGA FTW3, he has FE

#

I’ll offer the guy 400 let’s see what happens

kindred stone
#

Guys i need a help I installed amd system monitor so in it its showing gpu clock 100mhz and memory speed 150 mhz but gpu load 0%so is my gpu working?
Amd Radeon 7400m series

vital oriole
#

That's normal

#

If it's unused it'll be like that

#

Besides it's a laptop gpu, so it's only used when it's a game or smth you assign to use it

#

It uses the igpu in the cpu to display stuff

kindred stone
#

Oh thanks I was literally worried whether my gpu was dead or alive

vital oriole
#

You should be worried if it doesn't get used in game, haha

heady turtle
green harness
heady turtle
lone pond
#

Yea idk when i'll have enough to buy one tho

#

in a year and a half maybe

#

when i get a job

heady turtle
lone pond
#

true

#

oops caps

kindred stone
vital oriole
#

It could depend on the game

kindred stone
#

Ohk

#

But in graphics settings when I go and add any games it shows in options under graphics preferences in power saving intel hd 3000 and in high performance also intel hd 3000
But its not showing my gpu amd 7400m series in high performance

mellow glen
#

Make sure your drivers are up to date

#

You can prolly disable the onboard graphics if you have the gpu

kindred stone
#

I disabled it then it choose the Microsoft display adapter but when I was going to enable hd 7400m series then its showing There is a problem with this

#

Instead my gpu is actually amd radeon 6490m but windows 10 installed 7400m series . I downloaded from amd official center but they also downloaded hd 7400m series

mellow glen
#

So you have your amd 7400m installed and it’s the only@one installed correct?

#

Managed to get a 3080ti for my card + 400, not too bad tbh

kindred stone
karmic crag
late haven
#

whats the gpu with the most performance i need for a 1080p 144hz monitor

tender mulch
#

3060/3060TI/6700

late haven
#

k

#

isnt that a bit overkill?

tender mulch
#

Considering most of the others have been discontinued and you'll probably keep it for 3-5 years, leaves room to grow

cerulean rover
#

You asked for most performance sooo

tender mulch
#

Upgrade to 1440p etc

heady turtle
#

1660 super will do for light gaming at 1080p 144hz

#

Actually will do more than light lol

cerulean rover
#

But there's also just more and more graphically intensive games coming along

tender mulch
#

If you can find one that's not $400 XD

late haven
#

alr

#

ill upgrade to 1440p

mellow glen
karmic crag
#

interesting choice

mellow glen
#

Now im probably gonna downgrade to 3080 and get some cash back lol we’ll see though

mellow glen
mellow glen
heady turtle
#

3070 ti to 3080 downgrade uh

karmic crag
#

strange decisions all around in my opinion, but in 2021, a card's a card

heady turtle
karmic crag
#

they traded it for a 3080 ti plus cash

heady turtle
#

Ahhhhh

mellow glen
#

Yes sorry for confusion lol

#

3070ti -> 3080ti -> 3080

#

May end up keeping it though I’m not sure yet LOL

heady turtle
#

Fair lol

late haven
#

how much should i sell my 2070 founders edition for

#

i wanna scalp some cash

mellow glen
#

Could prolly get like 400-500ish

#

Maybe more depending on. Buyer

heady turtle
mellow glen
#

Really? Doesn’t it get similar performance to 1080?

heady turtle
mellow glen
#

Ahhh gotcha that makes sense

mellow glen
heady turtle
#

Sorry forgot how much better the 2070 super was xd

#

They going for 800ish

mellow glen
#

Prices have been going down so probably a good time to sell before prices completely

#

Damn 800 for a 2070 super that’s crazy

#

Definitely try to get that while you can

livid idol
keen nacelle
kindred stone
kindred stone
late haven
#

just wanna test something real quick

#

lol

tender mulch
split parrot
#

There are work arounds for TPM

kindred stone
#

Oh...

tender mulch
#

On the current version floating around, who knows with the final release

vital pivot
#

My neighbor brought over his old school Alienware for me to look at

#

I didn’t feel like setting it up so I pulled out my screen I’ll be using for system monitoring

#

7 inch touch screen for the win

#

Turns out the PSU has a circuit breaker that had tripped

mellow glen
#

this would work for my evga 1000w p2 correct?

#

3080ti fe

verbal cedar
#

you got a 3080ti how

mellow glen
#

trading my 3070ti + $$$ 😛

livid idol
#

X2, X6, and XR

mellow glen
#

uhhh

livid idol
#

It'll say the exact model on the box and on the sticker on the unit

mellow glen
#

ok ill have to check the unit, dont have box lol

livid idol
#

If you have an invoice or order confirmation email you can usually tell from those too

mellow glen
#

220-P2-1000-XR

#

Ok so should be good then

livid idol
#

Yep that'll work

#

Nice that they have the 12 pin cable so you don't need the adapter but still sucks you have to buy it.

mellow glen
#

True that :/ I can always use adapter in meantime but yeah that does suck

verbal cedar
#

what is a good gpu overclocking tool for 3000 series (3070)

mellow glen
#

i think generally people use afterburner

magic wing
#

MSI afterburner

#

Works for almost any gpu

#

Even non msi gpus

verbal cedar
#

ok thanks

magic wing
#

GPU-Z or hwinfo to monitor if the oc took effect or no

halcyon plover
#

And 3d mark timespy to benchmark

verbal cedar
#

how does this oc look?

mellow glen
#

did you test?

magic wing
#

use heaven benchmark to test it

#

Personally I wouldnt increase the voltage for a daily OC

halcyon plover
#

Thats hot for a 3070

#

It shouldnt go above 70c

#

And do a fan curve not a static 70%

keen nacelle
halcyon plover
#

Yeah i guess

#

Most dont go over 70 tho

fallen kettle
#

I'm getting a used R9 270X for 80 USD (6k INR) is it a good deal?

verbal cedar
#

I accidentally changed a setting in my bios and now my cpu wont go above base do you know how to fix it or can I reset my bios and keep my data on my ssd

magic wing
verbal cedar
magic wing
verbal cedar
#

ok if it isn't that I will see if I can find a youtube video

fallen kettle
magic wing
#

it is f5 for most asus mobos

magic wing
#

see if you can get an rx570 for 8-10k inr

fallen kettle
fallen kettle
magic wing
#

II got mine new for 12 k so second hand 8-10k seems possible

verbal cedar
magic wing
#

remember to enable DOCP btw

verbal cedar
magic wing
#

Glad I could help 🙂

verbal cedar
#

me too I was worried

verbal cedar
magic wing
#

lotta factors influence boost behaviour

heady turtle
verbal cedar
heady turtle
#

And i don't trust a website lol

verbal cedar
#

I do use 3dmark that was just fast to see if what I did worked

#

I'm running it right now

magic wing
#

use cinebench single core

verbal cedar
#

Is it free?

magic wing
#

on the microsoft store

#

its free

verbal cedar
#

Ok

#

this is annoying earlier with the same gpu oc i have now I got lie 13020

magic wing
#

thats fine

verbal cedar
#

I just don't get why it is so much lower?

heady turtle
verbal cedar
#

8105

magic wing
#

that score is fine

verbal cedar
#

and gpu is 13846

verbal cedar
magic wing
#

oh 8105 is low for a 5600x

magic wing
magic wing
#

so its fine

obtuse sierra
#

I found a guy selling a 2070 super fe for less than $400, said he won it in a giveaway, doesn’t need it, and wants some cash. States that it is still sealed in the box. Too good to be true?

heady turtle
magic wing
#

but yeah

#

my 3600x is a gold sample tbf tho

heady turtle
#

A average for timespy with 5600x is 8163

magic wing
#

its average within margin of error

#

so its fine

heady turtle
heady turtle
magic wing
#

Nah pbo on

heady turtle
#

Really?

magic wing
#

pbo off will do like 7000 something

verbal cedar
magic wing
#

since itll be locked to 3.8ghz

heady turtle
#

It should have the stock boosting algorithm just pbo better

magic wing
verbal cedar
#

Is there anything you see I need to change?

heady turtle
#

Go into advanced

verbal cedar
#

There

#

What do I need to/check?

#

@heady turtle

heady turtle
#

There should be an overclocking section or something

verbal cedar
heady turtle
#

Try ai tweaker

verbal cedar
#

Ok

heady turtle
#

Can you scroll down

verbal cedar
heady turtle
#

Precision boost overdrive

verbal cedar
heady turtle
#

Precision boost overdrive again

verbal cedar
#

Auto disabled enabled or manual?

heady turtle
#

Enabled

#

You could do manual but I'd just do enabled

verbal cedar
#

Ok done anything else?

heady turtle
#

What's it show now? Anything different?

verbal cedar
#

Does what show?

heady turtle
#

What does it show now

verbal cedar
heady turtle
#

What do the other drop downs say ?

#

I'm not v familiar with asus bios

verbal cedar
#

Pbo has auto, disabled, or enabled

#

Max cpu boost clock override has auto or fill it on

#

Platform themal throttle limit is auto or manual

heady turtle
#

Okay just leave the rest for the moment then

verbal cedar
#

Leave bios and test?

heady turtle
#

Yeah save and exit and retest

verbal cedar
#

Should I test single or multiple cores?

#

It is boosting to 4.51

#

While in single core test

magic wing
#

yeah try enabling PBO

verbal cedar
#

where in the bios is that?

heady turtle
#

I just enabled it sith them rawr

magic wing
vital pivot
#

Woo hoo. The shuffle is starting soon.

normal hawk
#

No gpu's

vital pivot
#

Yeah. I noticed. Like wtf

normal hawk
#

Just cpu's I've had plenty of chances to buy at msrp and below msrp 🤷‍♂️

#

Newegg gods, please let me win the XSX today

glacial narwhal
#

I don’t use AMD graphics cards so the numbers confuse me. But an RX 580 is like lower on the hierarchy, like lower performance?

worn gazelle
#

6700xts, 6800 and 6900xts are live on newegg sold buy newegg if anyones has been looking for them

dreamy dragonBOT
#
Big Daddy Dubbs#7886 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

normal hawk
#

Oh a 6900xt for 1800$? That's the lowest I've seen in a while.

#

Tempted. Ngl

#

Not sure if I'd actually need it for just racing games though.

magic wing
#

it still keeps up tho

#

great budgt card imo

#

but yee 5000 series and 6000 series way better

grim frost
magic wing
#

other cards cant be found at msrp either

#

its still a budget card

#

just that the budget has shot up

#

for all cards

grim frost
#

I sold my 580 and got a 1070 ti with it's money, it's insane

vital oriole
#

bruh

#

damm

dreamy dragonBOT
#
sageweeb#1133 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

upper imp
#

yo wanna play cod

keen nacelle
keen nacelle
#

Wow, whatd you sell it for? I've seen around 450

glacial kelp
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I don't want to mine, so was I moved to an identical product with less mining capabilities?

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So LHR is Light Hash Rate, problem solved.

mellow glen
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It put you@into a queue bar should move faster bc there will be less liners trying to go for it

glacial kelp
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But instead of halving the mining capabs they should have trashed the mining part to the ground 😄

mellow glen
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That’s the theory

glacial kelp
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We shall see.

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I have a 5900 cpu paired with a 1060 😄

halcyon plover
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Its doesnt matter

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You can mine ither coins lol

mellow glen
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Wasnt it targeted at Etherium

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?

halcyon plover
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Its like 20% less proftable then eth rn but still

halcyon plover
keen nacelle
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3070 ti that is, sorry

halcyon plover
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Its not same algorithm

keen nacelle
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Having three conversations at once

halcyon plover
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You cant compare hashrates

keen nacelle
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Yeah ig

halcyon plover
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I mine raven on my 3070ti , get around 3.5-4 a day not bad

keen nacelle
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I mine eth wirh my non lhr 3060 ti, dropped from like 5-6 a day to 3 a day

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If that

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Debating trying to trade it for a better 30 series lhr card and mining raven

halcyon plover
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The good days when a 3070 did 8$ ssadge

cold spire
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Is 350 a good price for a 5500 XT 8gb?

keen nacelle
cold spire
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K

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Thx

heady turtle
halcyon plover
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Yeah i made 70$ in one day i remember

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2 3070 3060 5500xt and 2 1060

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Not all of them mine but me and my brother on same nicehash account

heady turtle
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Damm

crisp ocean
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When’s the next BB drop

green harness
winged grotto
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6800 sapphire pulse still in stock for 1050

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X trio, aorus master, and red dragon is 1220,1250, and 1160 in perspective

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If anyone interested, here’s a link

keen nacelle
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how much of a difference is there between 6800 and 6800xt? i dont know much about amd cards

keen nacelle
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ty

heady turtle
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Np

hot folio
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6800 is a tad bit better than a 3070, 6800xt is on par with a 3080