Our only hope rn is the intel gpu
#graphics-cards
hot folio
vital oriole
I doubt it'll be that good yet
hot folio
I know but a man can hope
livid idol
Our only hope rn is the intel gpu
They're at least 3 years away from competitive products
hot folio
It most likely won’t even be focused for gaming
vital oriole
But I do hope Intel doesn't decide to drop it so soon
pls give it time
Another competitor is always welcome
unlike some that condems this idea so badly
hot folio
I wonder if Nvidia will decide to start making CPUs now that intel is starting on a GPU
vital oriole
I doubt they're interested in x86
But arm, surely
Literally on the process of acquiring the arm company too
livid idol
Well, that got stalled by the EU anti-trust laws, but they already have a partnership with ARM
cerulean rover
Intel going for sifive for fun
livid idol
Here's the latest I could find on it https://www.cnbc.com/2021/06/08/nvidias-acquisition-of-arm-set-to-be-delayed-by-chinese-regulators.html
livid idol
Didn’t they offer like 2 billion for it?
$40 billion
hot folio
I was talking about Intel and Sifive
livid idol
Oh that
Yeah they offered 2 bil but no word on current status of a deal
Risc-v is making for a risk-y investment
supple otter
is a gtx 570 better than a rx 460 idk what one to use
livid idol
is a gtx 570 better than a rx 460 idk what one to use
RX 460 due to it having 2GB of memory instead of 1.2GB
supple otter
ok thank you
stark raptor
i have a question, is the 3070 TIE better than the 2080 Ti ?
does it worth to upgrade to ?
livid idol
Probably not worth upgrading, especially for the price. Maybe 5-10% better depending on what you play.
Back to you Steve
halcyon plover
Yeah and 2080ti is good for 1440p gaming so you dont need the upgrade tbh
livid idol
Yeah, hopefully AMD catching up like they did is the sign Nvidia needs to kick their dev teams into high gear
stark raptor
Actually i don't trust AMD anymore because i had many issues with their HW component especially the GPU
livid idol
If you're talking about the 5700XT or earlier, they fixed most of the problems when Lisa Su took over as CEO. They invested a lot more into the drivers and hardware teams.
magic wing
i have a question, is the 3070 TIE better than the 2080 Ti ?
Whats a 3070 tie
livid idol
Whats a 3070 tie
One of the Nvidia spokespersons said "TIE" instead of "T-I" so now GN is using it as a meme, right alongside "Back to you, Steve" and "Thanks, Steve"
magic wing
One of the Nvidia spokespersons said "TIE" instead of "T-I" so now GN is using i...
Ahhh I see
Its memememememememe now
stark raptor
If you're talking about the 5700XT or earlier, they fixed most of the problems w...
but as a consumer i don't wait for someone to take a place to solve issues because of internal management issues
while with NVIDIA they are more reliable when solving issues
livid idol
There's no more waiting, the problems are solved right now. All the issues that plagued the 5700XT are nonexistent in the 6000 series.
stark raptor
but still AMD is below NVIDIA when comes to performance
livid idol
Not really
magic wing
I havent faced any issues on my 570 either
magic wing
I havent faced any issues on my 570 either
And I have bios flashed it multiple times
livid idol
Yeah, and AMD has 6900XT and 6900
magic wing
6900XT exists
also AMD has funny number haha advantage
so automatically better
/s
livid idol
they are the top
stark raptor
i don't think that 6900XT can beat the 3090
livid idol
Yeah it can't beat it (in everything) but...
magic wing
i don't think that 6900XT can beat the 3090
what you think is irrelevant if benchmarks say otherwise
magic wing
https://www.tomshardware.com/features/geforce-rtx-3090-vs-radeon-rx-6900-xt
SHEESH Nvidia gets SHREDDED in valhalla
livid idol
AC has always been AMD favored
stark raptor
i think NVIDIA is smart to let AMD to give all they have and then kaboom NVIDIA's lethal GPU
will come next year
livid idol
Ok fanboy
magic wing
features and technology will also go to tie soon maybe
magic wing
i'm not a fanboy at all
And im not a human
stark raptor
i'm just sick of these two companies i want to see a real competition in the GPU world
magic wing
i'm just sick of these two companies i want to see a real competition in the GPU...
So competition between 2 companies isnt competition
smart
stark raptor
no they are sharing the cake
magic wing
also Intel is coming up with gpus too
livid idol
The days of "Nvidia is superior in every way" are gone, now we have to nitpick differences between GPUs including how Nvidia has a bunch of features only a small number of people use
stark raptor
not really a competition
magic wing
no they are sharing the cake
I mean they have products that are directly aimed against each other lmao
stark raptor
intel !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
livid idol
no they are sharing the cake
This is the definition of competition lmao
Each side wants more cake
magic wing
https://tenor.com/view/elon-musk-smoke-smoking-well-maybe-gif-12516944
bowreygoblin be like
livid idol
That's fair, market sucks right now anyway, hopefully next gen is a little better price and stock
stark raptor
yes i hope it too
cosmic bluff
Sorry buddy but i hate to bring up rule #9
magic wing
Rule 9 loll
novel edge
I was traveling and didn't get to see, did anybody get in the EVGA queue for the 3070ti and already get one ordered?
clever pagoda
a few people did
currently it's up to the people that got in the queue at 6:18 a.m
dreamy dragonBOT
topsen#7664 has been warned
novel edge
Nice, I hope the link helped
real meteor
Do any companies that make AMD graphics cards have a queue system like EVGA does?
vital oriole
Nope
Not any that I know of
But you can fish the AMD cards from amd.com
Reference design but good enough
vital oriole
Better than no gpu
hot folio
Temps also arent that good on AMD ref
acoustic ginkgo
Right now, if you need a graphics card... the card you can buy is the good card.
magic wing
Temps also arent that good on AMD ref
They are good enough tbh
A little bit of messing with curves and they get a lot better
acoustic ginkgo
... I should really buckle down today and finish putting my tower together so I can finally let this laptop rest.
magic wing
... I should really buckle down today and finish putting my tower together so I ...
Havent you been at it for over a month now?
acoustic ginkgo
...yes. I've had a lot of distractions/chores/etc going on.
karmic crag
the 2021 gpu market has me considering buying a 3060 for almost 500 bucks
halcyon plover
Its not so bad tbh@karmic crag
karmic crag
the market or the price
halcyon plover
The price
People are paying 500 for much worst cards
Also you can mine the money back
karmic crag
true
halcyon plover
3060 is not so bad mining with the driver
You can get like 2.5$ a day at today rates
novel edge
Do any companies that make AMD graphics cards have a queue system like EVGA does...
if you have a Micro Center near you then you can probably just head in and get one, everyone wants Nvidia so there's not as much competition
clever pagoda
I wish there was micro center near me 😦
normal hawk
if you have a Micro Center near you then you can probably just head in and get o...
They are severely overpriced
late haven
lol i bought a gtx 1070 that was supposed to be broken but ended up working just fine
tender mulch
GO buy a lotto ticket XD
vital oriole
the gpu?
late haven
yes
late haven
will it be fine with a 650w?
clever pagoda
Do you have to get a voucher for microcenter?
or can you just call them and see if they have a card
vital oriole
lol calling em wouldn't work anyway
you gotta camp at one of their stores
people are gonna snatch it in no time
clever pagoda
How do peeps know they got em tho
vital oriole
news
clever pagoda
Like a stock notification?
vital pivot
@TEAMEVGA: Calling EVGA ELITE Members!
Tomorrow (Tuesday 6/15) at 9AM PT we will have the following SKU's activating for the EVGA Queue system: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 KINGPIN HYDRO COPPER, 3080 Ti XC3 ULTRA HYDRO COPPER, 3070 Ti XC3 ULTRA. Learn more about ELITE at http://www.evga.com/elite
brave violet
green harness
How do peeps know they got em tho
The simple answer is they don't. Camping is a roll if the dice outside of a launch day
vital pivot
I was at the microcenter in Houston saturday.
They had 6800, 6800xt and 6900xts in stock.
And a few 1650super OC
novel edge
I got the 1800 6900xt as an open box for like 1620
vital pivot
I picked up the 1650 as a spare
livid idol
A lot of the stores seem to since they're so expensive, but still better than scalped
heady turtle
Ntb
novel edge
I mean I got a evga 3080ti hybrid for less but that's for my friend, but I'm happy with my 6900xt. I'm excited to have my first all AMD build
ashen minnow
btw through the rumors of rtx 4000s and rx 7000 which do you think is going to come on top in (gaming, video encoder, gpu compute loads, and benchmarks)
tender mulch
btw through the rumors of rtx 4000s and rx 7000 which do you think is going to c...
Yes
ashen minnow
Lmao nice
tender mulch
There is literally zero info lol. Dont trust leaks.
tender mulch
No way to tell
ashen minnow
Rip
echo glade
when do they send out emails?
ashen minnow
Who?
echo glade
new egg for the shuffle
ashen minnow
Great question I saddly have no idea 💡
You can try to dm (think) the guy who got a 3070ti
Since he won the shuffle
heady turtle
when do they send out emails?
AFAIK up to 3-4 hours after shuffle ends
echo glade
if you dont get an email after the first hours is it even worth waiting?
tender mulch
Not really
green harness
It depends
I got my email a few hours in. I suspect they send emails every two hours
heady turtle
You could always just enable email notifications on mobile
clever pagoda
I'm now the proud owner of a 3070ti
which 3070ti?
I'd think that AMD could possibly be coming out on top with the next generation of cards considering they're going to start having two GPUs dies per card
slate bronze
Gigabyte AORUS
halcyon plover
Thats heavy gpu
clever pagoda
Probably gonna be a trillion $
lone pond
quick advice here guys and you can do an upvote or down vote on my comment but would anyone trade a Asus TUF 3070 and a 2060 FE for an asrock 6900xt +200 dollars. Does this sound like a good deal?
karmic crag
uh
karmic crag
quick advice here guys and you can do an upvote or down vote on my comment but w...
are you the one giving the 3070 + 2060?
stuck pebble
ive been at it for almost 3 months now and still nothing
Same. I entered every shuffle I could and never once got picked, and in the event I ever do get picked I'll most likely be spending more money than I ever intended because of all the stupid bundles - all I want is a GPU. Not a GPU + PSU combo, Not a GPU + Mobo, not a GPU + Monitor. Just the GPU.
lone pond
are you the one giving the 3070 + 2060?
no, was just asking
heady turtle
quick advice here guys and you can do an upvote or down vote on my comment but w...
No that would not be worth it
3070 +2060 maybeeeee if it was just those cards for 6900xt but that also has no nvenc, dlss or rtx voice
But imo terrible deal, well the 2060 if you don't want it, you'll get great value for it
lone pond
Just asking really. What if you put aside rtx, dlss, rtx voice? maybe even 1080p gaming and workstation stuff
heady turtle
1080p gaming will depend entirely on your cpu
If you don't have a fast enough cpu, at 1080p you probs wont notice between 3070 and 6900xt
Literally all eSports titles
overwatch does that too
lone pond
Just throw a fast cpu in there
intel or amd doesnt matter
just assume that all is good
heady turtle
Not that i know of
heady turtle
just assume that all is good
I mean it all depends but at 1080p with something like a 5900x, and a 3070 vs 6900xt, depending on game and resolution, still cpu bound
lone pond
Hmm, sounding more and more like a bad trade no matter where you slice it
heady turtle
Oof :/
heady turtle
Hmm, sounding more and more like a bad trade no matter where you slice it
Terrible trade imo
I would possibly consider if they paid you 200 for the 3070 +2060 for the 6900xt but that's 1 GPU instead of 2
lone pond
Yeah, that's what it's sounding like. Thanks for the insight
heady turtle
But imo the 2 gpus is way superior
Nvenc and rtx voice for me
My friends love they don't gotta hear my clickity clacks keyboard
Well i has razer blackwidow
Noo swappie
Ive had for like 7 years?
Fancy
As long as it works
Also membrane can be okay
lone pond
AH! I had the question backwards its 6900xt for 3070 and 2060 +200
200
Gotcha, I havent been keeping up much with cards cause I've been busy and I thought about it but never knew what the performance was like
rich wraith
Just bought this for $200 more MSRP https://www.newegg.com/asus-radeon-rx-6800-xt-rog-strix-lc-rx6800xt-o16g-gaming/p/N82E16814126475?Item=N82E16814126475
I've never owned a watercooled anything, what should I know about this?
hot folio
Radiator on top=higher gpu temps, lower everything else
Radiator on Front= lower gpu temps, higher everything else
And try to keep the top of the radiator (where the tubes come out of it) above the pump (gpu)
hot folio
Just bought this for $200 more MSRP https://www.newegg.com/asus-radeon-rx-6800-x...
By MSRP do you mean the price on the listing or MSRP of the actual card?
rich wraith
By MSRP do you mean the price on the listing or MSRP of the actual card?
The actual card I believe. Asus themselves is selling it for 1,300
guessing thats 2021 msrp prices rn
reviews are putting it at 1k back in 2020
I think my 6700k will be a bottleneck
Plus I only have 1080p monitors 
hot folio
How much did you pay?
hot folio
Not bad that’s about the same for what I paid for my 6800xt
hot folio
You’re going to want to upgrade that PSU
Minimum recommended is 650watt but ideally you’d want 750
hot folio
PSU could fail killing the system
rich wraith
Breaking every component?
hot folio
But that’s after a bit of time
But there most likely would be crashes
Yeah if the PSU fails it often will take some components with it usually hard drives and occasionally gpu
And you’re most likely going to want to upgrade that 6700k because out of personal experience it will bottleneck it a bit at 1080p ultra settings but games will still be playable
At fairly good frames
Honestly tho I wouldn’t really worry about bottlenecks that much since no matter what there will be a bottleneck somewhere in the system
If you’re on a budget to upgrade the cpu I’d recommend an intel 11400 and a B560 board
Of course wait for other people’s opinions before you buy anything because I’m no where close to as knowledgeable with this stuff as other people in the channel @rich wraith
keen nacelle
Of course wait for other people’s opinions before you buy anything because I’m n...
Id say definitely upgrade that cpu, 3600=8700k for gaming and even that'd be a bottleneck. 11400k or 11600k are both pretty well priced
hot folio
If pairing with a B560 go for a non K cpu since you can’t overclock
But yeah for like 3-400 he can upgrade the CPU to something really good
keen nacelle
^^ I dont know intel mobos well
hot folio
11400 and a B560 is his best bet imo
keen nacelle
Yeah that'd be pretty well paired with the gpu
Google is saying 11400+6800xt will need atleast 600w psu
Yeah 11400 is basically the perfect cpu to pair with the 6800xt, showing barely any bottleneck on 1080p high refresh rate ultra together. Bottleneck is a relative term anyways, but its better value than buying a 10th gen i5
hot folio
Google is saying 11400+6800xt will need atleast 600w psu
Recommended spec for 6800xt is 650 watts
Mine draws around 300-350 watts
subtle cove
does anyone know any ways to find a GPU at a reasonable price? I have a ASUS TUF 3080 planned, and there out of stock everywhere (duh)
hot folio
Best Buy, microcenter(if you’re lucky)
Newegg shuffle if you sell the other things in the bundle
EVGA queue but good luck waiting for your name to come up
subtle cove
i was originally planning to go to Mass to get to MC, but i realized how lucky i would have to be
cause isnt there still incredible lines?
hot folio
That and also like AMD cards are being sold for retail scalped prices
and Nvidia cards except for Gt710s are sold out 24/7
In order to get a chance you’d have to be at the microcenter 3-4 hours before opening with no guarantee there will be the card you want
I would definitely drive there before hand to try to ask employees on what days the delivery truck arrives
hot folio
The one in Cambridge seems to have a 6800xt in stock for 1.3k
Oh damn
Where are you?
subtle cove
The one in Cambridge seems to have a 6800xt in stock for 1.3k
where i could be going
central maine
aka canada
hot folio
Why Massachusetts?
subtle cove
closest
hot folio
Definitely not
subtle cove
rlly?
hot folio
There are 4 in New York
keen nacelle
Recommended spec for 6800xt is 650 watts
Id definitely go for atleast 650w with this combination, just saying what Google was showing
hot folio
Wait I’m stupid
subtle cove
in what reality? lol
hot folio
Lmao I forget Massachusetts is above New York haha
subtle cove
lmaoo
hot folio
It’s 11 pm where I am, and it’s final exam night, my brain is fried
subtle cove
suggestions for a body guard if i go down there and get one? imma be a main target 😳
night, gl on your exams
hot folio
Give me a few I’ll try to find some places in Canada
subtle cove
its only in the US
hot folio
There’s Canada computers which seems to sell 6000 and 30 series gpus
retail scalped prices but that’s the only way you’ll get a gpu really
Unless you get lucky with a BB drop
subtle cove
yeah
hot folio
If you’re willing to, there are bots on github to add to cart and check out for Best Buy and stuff like that
hot folio
Fair
subtle cove
i could try to get a voucher for MC
hot folio
If you’re willing to spend a bit more you could buy a prebuilt to scavenge
hot folio
Not really
500-1k for like a 3070
Vouchers only are really good for maybe like 20-30 minutes after it being issued by the store’s manager or associate
subtle cove
and i cant even find it on BB
hot folio
BB you have to stalk the drops if it’s online only
But if it’s online only you’re competing against Bots
hot folio
What GPU?
hot folio
Forget about MSRP, it ain’t happening
And also if you’re looking at thermals the difference between the tuf, FTW3 ultra and the other higher end 3080s is barely any
hot folio
And these days you can’t really be picky with what model you get
keen nacelle
Honestly gigabyte is under rated, the thermals on it are pretty good for my 3060 ti
keen nacelle
I have 2 artic p12 pwm and 2 stock fans in a coolermaster n400 and it sits at under 70 at full load
subtle cove
And these days you can’t really be picky with what model you get
true
keen nacelle
Sorry yeah
subtle cove
well yea its aorus
subtle cove
there never fail to disapoint
keen nacelle
I have the oc pro
subtle cove
some mobos arent horrible
keen nacelle
I freaking love the look of 10 series and 20 series fe
They look amazing compared to 30 series, tho they do still look clean
hot folio
I got the Aorus master 6800xt the highest temp this thing gets in 4K benchmarks is 64 Celsius
keen nacelle
I got the Aorus master 6800xt the highest temp this thing gets in 4K benchmarks ...
Well it also depends on your case and what cooling you have
hot folio
Maybe a 10% difference
subtle cove
i have a P500A, so i shoudl eb all good
hot folio
In unigine superposition it’s very similar to a non oced 3090
I’m running a Lian Li Lancool II Mesh
keen nacelle
Honestly I just don't trust amd cards, even if AMD pulls ahead of nvidia with their fidelity fx im gonna be sticking with nvidia
hot folio
Why don’t you trust them?
keen nacelle
My dad went full amd build a while ago, gpu decided to crap itself
keen nacelle
And a lot of people I know who are into pcs have had atleast one bad experience with them
I like my 3600 and I'm probably sticking with ryzen cpus over intel
hot folio
Ehh I had 3 2070s fail on me
keen nacelle
But not making the switch from nvidia to amd
The people I've talked to have had more amd cards doa
hot folio
OG 20 series had horrible stability issues
keen nacelle
Not really die over the years
hot folio
I had 6 20 series cards
keen nacelle
I've had a 1030 and 3060 ti :p
hot folio
5 out of 6 started artifacting within the first 2 months
6th one died on me after the 6th month
subtle cove
anyways, you suggest this, Alec? https://www.bestbuy.com/site/evga-geforce-rtx-3080-xc3-ultra-gaming-10gb-gddr6-pci-express-4-0-graphics-card/6432400.p?skuId=6432400
keen nacelle
So ima be sticking with nvidia
hot folio
The only AMD card that started artifacting was my RX 480
And that was after having it since release
keen nacelle
anyways, you suggest this, Alec? https://www.bestbuy.com/site/evga-geforce-rtx-3...
Honestly just go with whatever card you can get in stock lmao
hot folio
Started artifacting 2 months ago
subtle cove
Honestly just go with whatever card you can get in stock lmao
right lmao
hot folio
Then fixed it with new thermal paste and pads, good as new
hot folio
anyways, you suggest this, Alec? https://www.bestbuy.com/site/evga-geforce-rtx-3...
That’s really good, this also is https://www.evga.com/products/product.aspx?pn=10G-P5-3897-KR
But yeah go with whatever you can get your hands on
subtle cove
what are ones that i should aviod then? i understand most are great, but ik some arent
keen nacelle
Well the evga 3060 for 330$ is well priced
All others suck
6700xt trades blows with 3060 ti at 3070 price
subtle cove
ive had a horrible experience with EVGA
keen nacelle
Zotac just in general sucks
They've been scalping almost market price on their own website, not to mention just awful customer service
hot folio
EVGA and ASUS are easily the 2 best
subtle cove
they hide there marketing on there cards 
keen nacelle
Gigabyte is middle of the pack, same with msi
hot folio
Gigabyte has terrible stock thermal pads and customer support
keen nacelle
Gigabyte has terrible stock thermal pads and customer support
Eh
hot folio
MSI is good just bad business practice
subtle cove
i cant flex my EVGA card
keen nacelle
For a two fan card, that is
subtle cove
so i should avoid Eagle?
keen nacelle
For a two fan card it's pretty average
subtle cove
if so bet i dont liek them
keen nacelle
so i should avoid Eagle?
Unless you're sff
keen nacelle
Not really, in most games it trades blows if you're including dlss/rtx
With 3060 ti*
keen nacelle
Definitely avoid the eagle both 2 and 3 fan
Didn't know eagle had 3 fans
hot folio
Thermals are a bit high from what I’ve seen on the 3080 eagle
cerulean rover
I would not call it bad
https://youtu.be/4ivWfdJs4BU
hot folio
It ain’t bad but ain’t amazing
cerulean rover
msi evga asus?
hot folio
The holy trinity
cerulean rover
asus amd cards used to suck, it might still be the case with this generation
hot folio
How are the PNY 30 series?
keen nacelle
Awful
hot folio
I know PNY makes good quadros
cerulean rover
pny is pny
keen nacelle
Pny is one of the worst I've heard
cerulean rover
lemme check if anyone did testing
keen nacelle
Pny and zotac are the two to avoid imo
cerulean rover
PNY is technically the biggest aib partner iirc
hot folio
Ok so I’m sticking to PNY for quadros avoiding it for anything else
subtle cove
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/gkG2sX GPU might as well be a placeholder
hot folio
That list brings tears of happiness to my eyes
cerulean rover
From TPU testing,
In our apples-to-apples heatsink testing, we found out that the PNY RTX 3070 XLR8 heatsink is a very good design that can easily outperform coolers from Gigabyte, Palit, Zotac, and even the RTX 3070 Founders Edition.
keen nacelle
Bc skytech screwed me over so hard I've spent over 1800$ on a 3060 ti 3600 build and I hate everything to do with my pc now
cerulean rover
I wouldn't say they're the worst at all
keen nacelle
From TPU testing,
> In our apples-to-apples heatsink testing, we found out that ...
Oh I guess I was wrong
subtle cove
That list brings tears of happiness to my eyes
go to bed for testing 😋
hot folio
No Corsair AIO, no Samsung m.2, no Seagram HDD
cerulean rover
hot folio
Beautiful 🥲
keen nacelle
How does their performance other than cooling perform?
cerulean rover
it's a 3070
keen nacelle
How does their performance other than cooling perform?
Well pretend like this made sense
hot folio
Pretty sure they have lower power limits than others
cerulean rover
not much else to expect other than thermals
subtle cove
i like corsair but i swear there cooling is horrible (compared to the top dogs)
cerulean rover
ye, slightly lower pl but yea
keen nacelle
Yeah but don't different 3070s perform slightly different?
cerulean rover
everything corsair makes is either overpriced or bad
hot folio
1-2% difference
cerulean rover
:P
keen nacelle
Eh I've seen some decent corsair ram
cerulean rover
Yeah but don't different 3070s perform slightly different?
that 1% isn't worth mentioning
hot folio
everything corsair makes is either overpriced or bad
Cases not really
keen nacelle
Other than that tho
cerulean rover
Eh I've seen some decent corsair ram
price
keen nacelle
One sec lemme find the link i have it in my cart lmak
hot folio
Really? The 4000d airflow is decently priced
cerulean rover
but td500 mesh at the normal 102$ mark slaps it imo (Assuming the 95$ 4000d)
hot folio
Good point
cerulean rover
5000d price is too high
keen nacelle
Oh the ram is on my pc
green harness
Yeah there's basically no difference in performance unless you're either looking to OC quite a bit or a GPU has such a bad cooler design that it thermal throttles
keen nacelle
But it's 2x8gb 3600mhz for 92$ I believe
subtle cove
anyways, @hot folio is there anyting that should be changed/not great value?
keen nacelle
Cl18
hot folio
anyways, <@!480883524203839508> is there anyting that should be changed/not grea...
It’s pretty much a perfect build imo
subtle cove
is it as perfect as you 😋 (im not gay i swear)
cerulean rover
list is good
keen nacelle
I'm debating tryna trade my 3060 ti for a lhr 3070/3070 ti
cerulean rover
prob not happening
cerulean rover
I don't believe there's still many new miners at this point
keen nacelle
I've got the psu for it anyways
hot folio
The AIO is really good, my 5900x barely exceeds 60 with mine
subtle cove
i dont think miners want a 3060 ti there prob not great
keen nacelle
I don't believe there's still many new miners at this point
I've seen a decent amount on r/hardwareswao
Swap*
subtle cove
what you hve? that exact one?
hot folio
Miners don’t really want 3070tis/3080tis
green harness
i dont think miners want a 3060 ti there prob not great
You're basing this on??
keen nacelle
i dont think miners want a 3060 ti there prob not great
3060 tis are one of the best gpus for mining
subtle cove
You're basing this on??
great question
cerulean rover
I've seen a decent amount on r/hardwareswao
I'm talking about new people buying the lhr GPUs
green harness
The 3060Ti is the most desireable mining card rn I thought
keen nacelle
They get 60mh/s easily at i think 130w
subtle cove
i feel like it wouldnt be great tho
hot folio
what you hve? that exact one?
Arctic Freezer II 360 RGB
keen nacelle
The 3060Ti is the most desireable mining card rn I thought
Other than the 5700xt
hot folio
The 3060Ti is the most desireable mining card rn I thought
Most desirable mining card is the Radeon VII
green harness
i feel like it wouldnt be great tho
You should probably not just pull stuff out of nothing like that
keen nacelle
Yeah 3060 ti is I think 3rd in the mining hierarchy
subtle cove
Arctic Freezer II 360 RGB
ah, is the RGB worth it 
green harness
Ok, so most desireable 30-series for mining/a very desireable mining card
Thanks for filling me in
keen nacelle
3080 is also great for mining
hot folio
ah, is the RGB worth it <a:sheep_rgb:750957340408283247>
I really like mine, look in build pics, the fans on the front of the case are the AIO fans
green harness
Radeon VII is EoL isn't it?
cerulean rover
3080 needs pads
keen nacelle
3080, vega 64, 5700xt, and 3060 ti are all sought after by miners a lot
green harness
Yeah, 3080 needs pads and runs hot regardless
cerulean rover
dunno about vega 64
subtle cove
oo
keen nacelle
Yeah, 3080 needs pads and runs hot regardless
Depends on model
keen nacelle
My friends runs at 53 celsius while mining on the side
green harness
Depends on model
Gddr6x runs hot pretty much no matter what
keen nacelle
I forget which model he has
cerulean rover
uh, are you talking about core or vram
g6x gets hot, the die doesn't get that hot
green harness
53c memory temp? because that doesn't sound right at all
hot folio
Radeon VII is EoL isn't it?
It is but it is still is an insanely sought after card for mining
keen nacelle
Msi shows 53 idk which it shows
cerulean rover
that's core
cerulean rover
very few cards have a dedicated sensor for vram
green harness
Yeah, core isn't high it's vram you have to worry about
cerulean rover
but you know vram is throttling when your hash rate just drops
hot folio
This kinda summarizes it
green harness
I though gddr6x had sensors on the memory and that showed in GPU-z etc
subtle cove
ouch
cerulean rover
lol
hot folio
keen nacelle
I mine on the side, get 63mh/s with my 3060 ti at 61 celsius 65% power limit +1500mem -350 core
hot folio
These prices are insane
keen nacelle
Go to sold listings instead
cerulean rover
lock dat voltage
subtle cove
oh alec what mobo you got?
hot folio
VII’s hashrsre is almost 80
keen nacelle
Wait really?
hot folio
oh alec what mobo you got?
Crosshair VIII Hero
keen nacelle
Wow
cerulean rover
that sounds kinda wrong
keen nacelle
That's nearly 3080 hashrate at a much lower power draw
cerulean rover
pretty sure 3080 hash rate is closer to like 70-some
cerulean rover
meh, I don't pay enough attention to it
keen nacelle
Idk I only know how his and mine mine
green harness
3080 hash rate is 90-95
tender mulch
3080 should be 100 yeah
keen nacelle
He doesn't oc his too much
green harness
It might be 70-85 stock, but it should easily get into the 90s
tender mulch
Shouldn't mine stock, that's bad
tender mulch
97 sounds right
subtle cove
Crosshair VIII Hero
looks great, but what caused you to get that? i feel like its to much for a Mobo
green harness
Shouldn't mine stock, that's bad
Oh I know but people do and a lot of articles quote stock numbers
subtle cove
but it is going with some powerful things
cerulean rover
first thing you generally should do is like +1000 vram, lower PL, lock to lower votlage
but stock nicest comparison
keen nacelle
Idk I can't find it in our dms
tender mulch
and underclock core
hot folio
Go to sold listings instead
keen nacelle
He uses power limit I know that much
tender mulch
at least -200 on the core, if not more
hot folio
looks great, but what caused you to get that? i feel like its to much for a Mobo
I got it in a bundle with a 3700x. 400$ for both of them and the insane OC potential
subtle cove
bro
dreamy dragonBOT
AntiGrated#7965 has been warned
subtle cove
that is a damn steal
keen nacelle
I lowkey was gonna upgrade to a 3700x bc I see them for 220$ used almost daily, bc I thought my 3600 lost the silicon lottery
hot folio
Recently had to RMA it because I bios bricked it. But instead of fixing it
keen nacelle
Turns out my ram was running at 2666mhz and my cooler was awful
hot folio
They sent me a brand new one
cerulean rover
just hope that 3700x is good silicon
hot folio
I scored with my 3700x
keen nacelle
My 3600 is slightly below average in cinebench now with 3600mhx and good Temps
subtle cove
so ive always been confused on what the Silicon Lottery is. is it the quality of the silicon within the CPU?
keen nacelle
My 3600 is slightly below average in cinebench now with 3600mhx and good Temps
3600mhz on the ram*
cerulean rover
if you can hit 4ghz at 1.25v stable, congrats, you have a better chip than my 3800x :P
keen nacelle
I'm thinking about ocing my 3600 to test it out
cerulean rover
last time I did ocing it took 1.4v to get 4.3ghz to be cinebench stable
hot folio
I remember hitting 4.5 at 1.35
knotty jungle
I want a rtx 3090
hot folio
I think I tried pushing it to 4.7 but I think I backed off
hot folio
I want a rtx 3090
If for gaming, forget about it waste of money
knotty jungle
Oh
hot folio
Cant say that stuff here
keen nacelle
I want an rtx 3090
Honestly if I had the option I'd go with a 3080. 3090 is so overkill for what I do lmao
tender mulch
Not nice
cerulean rover
I need to do more subs, but yea
https://hwbot.org/submission/4391913_mr1111_cinebench___r20_with_benchmate_ryzen_7_3800x_4951_pts
knotty jungle
But it has 24 gigs of vram
cerulean rover
vram doesn't mean that much
subtle cove
welp imma go to bed soon, night 
tender mulch
Vram Shmeram
cerulean rover
3060 with 12gb of vram gets slapped by 3080 with 10gb of vram in games
tender mulch
Only useful for CAD or other things
hot folio
But it has 24 gigs of vram
Useless in anything other than rendering and CAS
knotty jungle
Oooof
hot folio
That’s why I have mine
knotty jungle
My life is a lie
cerulean rover
is has been
tender mulch
People forget that VRAM isn't just about quantity it's also about speed
knotty jungle
I wanted a 2060 and a ryzen 5 3600
cerulean rover
and bus size
hot folio
10Gb 320bit Will be faster than 16Gb 256 bit
knotty jungle
I got my 3600
But I’m waiting for gpu
Cuz prices way to high
Is 3070 a good option with the ryzen 5 3600
cerulean rover
It's why 3080ti has faster vram than 3070ti, even though it's both gddr6x at 1188mhz stock, 3080ti has 384bit bus, 3070ti has 256bit bus
hot folio
Perfectly fine
cerulean rover
well, not exactly faster vram, but more throughput/bandwidth
tender mulch
For 1080p, the CPU will be the limiting factor
hot folio
Only game I’ve found that uses more than 8Gb is Control where for some reason it was using almost 12-13 Gb
On 4K high raytracing
knotty jungle
For 1080p, the CPU will be the limiting factor
Sadly I can’t do anything because I already bought the r5 3600
cerulean rover
I could try and see what control does if I force it to render at 4k on my 2070
tender mulch
Yes
hot folio
Don’t worry about bottlenecks, you’ll always have them somewhere
tender mulch
3060TI or 3070
hot folio
Could even be the software
keen nacelle
3600 with 3060ti is fine for 1080p
knotty jungle
3060TI or 3070
Depends on the price if I find 3070 then imma buy it
keen nacelle
Not ideal but if you alr have a high refresh rate 1080p monitor just stick with it, no reason to spend 250-300 for a slight boost in quality
keen nacelle
True
knotty jungle
I have 144hz monitor
hot folio
Also do you care about ray tracing and DLSS?
knotty jungle
1440p
keen nacelle
Oh
hot folio
AMD 6800 and above might be worth taking a look at
keen nacelle
Then yeah 3600 is fine for for 3060ti /3070/6800
hot folio
It’s a lot easier to find them in micro centers
tender mulch
so expensive though
knotty jungle
But the thing is I don’t live in the US
knotty jungle
I live in Dubai
hot folio
From what I’ve heard it’s even harder in Dubai than in most places in the US
hot folio
You ain’t getting anything for MSRP until maybe 2022-2023
knotty jungle
I found a gt1030
dreamy dragonBOT
sheeeeeeeeeeesh#9999 has been warned
cerulean rover
@hot folio side note, forced control to render at 4k with RTX for me, my GPU itself being weak is the bottleneck here (15fps), but I'm hitting just around 7.5gb vram usage
hot folio
<@!480883524203839508> side note, forced control to render at 4k with RTX for me...
Ahh ok thanks, next time I got to check if I left any programs running in the back
knotty jungle
I should have just gotten an i7 with integrated graphics so I could wait it out till prices come down
cerulean rover
I'm guessing afterburner+rtss should be pretty accurate
hot folio
RTSS?
cerulean rover
rivatuner statistics server or whatever
knotty jungle
Ray tracing super sampling
knotty jungle
Yes
hot folio
Oh I think I unchecked that because I didn’t know what it was
knotty jungle
You have to click on install both in the installer
cerulean rover
playing this game at 15fps is fun
hot folio
And I’m not a huge fan of the overlay
cerulean rover
True but Radeon software does the same if you Alt+R
afterburner+rtss just gets you a lot of options for a lot of stats
hot folio
Just over lays in general
cerulean rover
and you can edit the overlay however you want
knotty jungle
playing this game at 15fps is fun
That’s my whole life
hot folio
Ooooh
knotty jungle
The struggles
cerulean rover
I have per core cpu usage graphs and framtime graphs atm
hot folio
My 6800xt is averaging about 50-60fps on 4K high ray tracing so I’m happy with it
cerulean rover
but there's a fair amount of things you can do
hot folio
I’ll definitely install it tomorrow to mess around with
For pure gaming the 6800xt is so nice
keen nacelle
My 6800xt is averaging about 50-60fps on 4K high ray tracing so I’m happy with i...
I've got a 4k monitor only 60hz, I'm debating testing out my 3060 ti on it just to see what 4k looks like and for the fun of it
I gave it to my dad for work (won it in a giveaway for free) so I'd have to move it
keen nacelle
Idk if I'm weird, I only notice a different between 40hz and 60hz
Anything else doesn't seem like much of a difference to me, noticeably anyways
hot folio
You mean FPS?
tender mulch
144/165 is soooo smoooooth
hot folio
Never used a 144hz soooo
keen nacelle
I've got 75hz 1440p and 165hz 1080p and I don't notice too much of a difference
But I'm told I'm weird
hot folio
Only time I’ll upgrade is once GPUs can run at 4K 165 fps
keen nacelle
I wonder if anyone's bought a dual 3090 rig for gaming
If they did they're either crazy, rich, stupid, or all of the above
hot folio
I love the microcenter warranty, basically even if there’s nothing wrong with my gpu and a new gpu comes out within the next 2 years I can trade it in for store credit
hot folio
So I’d have 1400 store credit for it
You need to buy the extra warranty tho
It’s like 150-200 usd I think
keen nacelle
I'm over here with my 3060 ti without a warranty because it came in a pre build and idt gigabyte let's me register a pre build gpu under them
vital oriole
dual 3090 rig for gaming only is stupid
hot folio
Ehh even if you did register gigabyte would just send it back to you without fixing it
vital oriole
workstation? that's understandable
keen nacelle
Ehh even if you did register gigabyte would just send it back to you without fix...
Fair enough
hot folio
They did it to me 6 times on one GPU
keen nacelle
I'm planning on building a new pc when ryzen 7000 series comes out
Since that'll be the second gen of ddr5
cerulean rover
it might not even be called ryzen
keen nacelle
Fair
cerulean rover
so who knows
hot folio
Ryzen 2
knotty jungle
There are dual 3090 prebuilts
cerulean rover
Ryazen
hot folio
Ryzen 2 9 7900x
cerulean rover
if any dual 3090 prebuilts are geared towards gaming
knotty jungle
Ryzen 69 4200x
hot folio
Ryzen 18 7900x
cerulean rover
that'll be just dumb
hot folio
Ryzen 14 7700x
knotty jungle
Ikr
cerulean rover
puget systems might even offer 4 way nvlink 3090 prebuilt now that I think about it
vital oriole
ye
knotty jungle
Ryzen 24 6900x
hot folio
puget systems might even offer 4 way nvlink 3090 prebuilt now that I think about...
I think they might
knotty jungle
2000w power supply
vital oriole
nope
hot folio
Nope
cerulean rover
aw they don't offer 4 way
hot folio
It’d have to be at least 3-4K watts
vital oriole
2000w can power like what, 3 of em?
cerulean rover
they do offer dual 3090, and quad rtx 5000, but not quad rtx 5000
hot folio
Those 500 watt transients are killer
cerulean rover
they did test them tho
https://www.pugetsystems.com/labs/articles/Quad-GeForce-RTX-3090-in-a-desktop---Does-it-work-1935/
vital oriole
dang
keen nacelle
Oh back to the earlier conversation, my friend is currently getting 95mh/s with his ocd 3080
cerulean rover
Overall, what we found was that while Quad RTX 3090s was able to run on a single 1600W power supply, it is cutting is extremely close. Remember that this is power draw from the wall, and going by the rated 92% efficiency of the EVGA unit we are using, our peak power draw of 1,717 watts should only translate to 1,580 watts of power internally. That leaves a whole 20 watts to spare!
keen nacelle
Oh back to the earlier conversation, my friend is currently getting 95mh/s with ...
-300 core +1200 mem 70% power limit is what hes using
mellow glen
i plan on selling my current gpus, i dont have their boxes tho what do you guys recommend i use to i guess sell them in?
clever pagoda
A shoebox with tons of styrofoam and something to hold it in place
mellow glen
Is there like any ESD film@I should use when transporting/shipping
mellow glen
Ye was probably gonna do that regardless, what would be good to store it in i guess?
like say I meet up with them what should I have it in lol
dense osprey
bruhhh i cant find a 3080 ti or 3070 ti on newegg ever
and in my stores they force u to buy a powersupply with it
mellow glen
bruhhh i cant find a 3080 ti or 3070 ti on newegg ever
newegg shuffle
dense osprey
newegg shuffle
canadian
mellow glen
o
halcyon plover
Something like a shoebox probably
mellow glen
wait youre getting a chance to buy it with a powersupply?
dense osprey
yea
dense osprey
ik but
mellow glen
and sell power supplies
dense osprey
they said 1 per person
dense osprey
im gonna sell my 3070 if i get a 3080 ti
mellow glen
different glasses
mellow glen
Something like a shoebox probably
Ah okay. anything in the shoebox or literally just the gpu
LOL
dense osprey
might have to do a crypto miner warehouse heist
halcyon plover
I mean if its in person it shouldnt matter
dense osprey
lmao
halcyon plover
If the buyer damage it somehow it his problem
wheat wharf
hey remember me the guy who told you about the 48 fps thing on minecraft rtx and lower fps on other games
well I found the fix so if anybody else has the same issue
i found a reddit
here it is
it can not only fix mc rtx but possibly other games
pine rapids
hey remember me the guy who told you about the 48 fps thing on minecraft rtx and...
is this only for windows 10 edition ?
im getting lowkey garbage fps on optifine + shaders
heady turtle
im getting lowkey garbage fps on optifine + shaders
Most likely the shader pack, i had shaders that didn't even increase fps when i went from r9 380 to 3070
pine rapids
Most likely the shader pack, i had shaders that didn't even increase fps when i ...
how many fps are you getting ?
i got a 3070 too and i get 80ish with 8 chunk render distance
heady turtle
how many fps are you getting ?
In the same area was still getting 45ish
But it was 45ish with my r9 380 too
pine rapids
the weird pat is that if i bump up my render distance to like 20, i still get the same fps
heady turtle
Yeah same, it's the pack being weird or being cpu bound is what i found out
Well what i assume
Cuz no other options
magic wing
https://www.reddit.com/r/MCPE/comments/k9qqgz/possible_fix_for_input_lag_in_1162...
This doesnt fix low fps
heady turtle
Well there was increase in all other games by significant amount so has to be cpu bound packs or something
magic wing
im getting lowkey garbage fps on optifine + shaders
Its not to increase fps... its input lag
Read the title guys
magic wing
Try slapping down anti aliasing in the shader pack options
heady turtle
I think i didn't have anti aliasing enabled ¯_(ツ)_/¯ weird pack/cpu bound somehow or something most likely
pine rapids
its off lol
heady turtle
Java itself is CPU bound
Yeah but hundreds of fps without shaders, like 45 with shaders
Like 600+fps without shaders
magic wing
I go from 600+ to 60 lol
heady turtle
I go from 600+ to 60 lol
But also 0 improvement with shaders going to a gpu like 3x/4x better or something lol
magic wing
Did you ddu between gpus?
pine rapids
its weird bc i see like 0 fps change between 8 and 20 chunk render distance
heady turtle
Did you ddu between gpus?
Ofc
magic wing
I did see a difference going from java 8 to java 15 btw
incase yall wanna do that
I can help you switch
pine rapids
installing msi afterburner to see if its reading fps wrong
heady turtle
I did see a difference going from java 8 to java 15 btw
Afaik i have jdk 15 or something
So that should cover
magic wing
Afaik i have jdk 15 or something
You have to specify that path to each instance of the game
just installing it does nothing
heady turtle
But it allows me to allocate more ram than 2gb :/
Ehh i don't play mc that much anymore anyway
magic wing
But it allows me to allocate more ram than 2gb :/
That you can do even on java 8
heady turtle
Idk ¯_(ツ)_/¯
magic wing
what shaders are thos
pine rapids
kappa i think
dreamy dragonBOT
Syly#6998 has been warned
clever pagoda
Ups sux they want to charge you money for them not having to send a delivery driver to your house and you just going to pick it up
heady turtle
late haven
gtx 1070 or 1660 super
heady turtle
Same price?
Well 1070 is a small bit better than 1660 super but 1660 super has better nvenc so if you wanna stream get 1660 super if they same price
keen nacelle
Well 1070 is a small bit better than 1660 super but 1660 super has better nvenc ...
Yeah 1070 beats 1660 ti I believe, barely loses to 2060 not including ray tracing
heady turtle
Ray tracing is never what we talking about unless specified
Also, those cards cant even do ray tracing
keen nacelle
I was saying how the 1070 compared, and since the 2060 is nearby performance I mentioned it
heady turtle
Will be unplayable in any other games in rt
keen nacelle
Honestly I'd never buy 2060 in this market, I'd go for the 1080 any day
Go for the same price, if not cheaper
heady turtle
Well 2060 does have better nvenc and dlss but yeah
magic wing
dlss 1 was bad either way
heady turtle
Can 2060 not use dlss 2.0 now tho?
clever pagoda
10 series should be able to use dlss
magic wing
Dlss 1.0
clever pagoda
yes
heady turtle
Dlss 1.0 is bleh
clever pagoda
give me the frames
normal jasper
normal hawk
Thought you had one already?
At home i currently have a GTX 1050 Ti, 5700 XT, RTX 3080 And then with me is an RTX 2070 Super.
When i get back I'm going to have 2 PC's (one workstation and one gaming) and then put a 3rd PC in the living room for VR.
I could do this now. But i like fast things 🤣
hot folio
I'm tempted for that 6900 XT 🤔
Do it if you have the money
heady turtle
At home i currently have a GTX 1050 Ti, 5700 XT, RTX 3080 And then with me is an...
Ahh i seee
normal hawk
I've heard that radeons 6000 series performs better in ue5, but i don't think I've heard anything about them fixing issues with blender
clever pagoda
is the notify for the evga xc3 up?
clever pagoda
Supposedly the auto-notify for XC3 3070ti
mellow glen
Oooo yeah it did
clever pagoda
but it ain't showing up for me
clever pagoda
Website kinda loaded for me just here slow
can you link the card with the notify?
mellow glen
clever pagoda
rip nothing works just like the last launch
wheat wharf
is this only for windows 10 edition ?
no not rlly it can fix a lot of game fps
wheat wharf
This doesnt fix low fps
i did it for mc rtx and i got 40 more fps
i had a problem and it fixed it
magic wing
in that case it was something else that happened at the same time
because thats not it
wheat wharf
one second ill put it back to the old settings and ill see
mellow glen
Managed to get In Queue.. wonder how that compares to others
wheat wharf
in that case it was something else that happened at the same time
huh weird i was sure it fixed it cause ive been having this problem for 3 months now
winged pendant
Yup….
honest dagger
does newegg scalp gpus? i cant remember
winged pendant
No they make you buy unnecessary combos.(usually)
honest dagger
oh yeah they do that dont they
heady turtle
No they make you buy unnecessary combos.(usually)
Tbf it's usually the distributors fault
leaden birch
@echo glade same here had an email at 3 from them advertising stuff and was more let down then the usual “you weren’t selected emails” lol
clever pagoda
I mean most companies are scalping except for maybe best buy
clever pagoda
Newegg should stop the combos for LHC GPUs bc miners aren't as likely to try for them imo
queen snow
@mellow glen u helped me a while ago, I got the pc
Its a pre-built but its a rtx 3070 i9 water cooling 800w psu
If u don't remember me, search up my name on this channel lol
.
normal hawk
Nice, enjoy the PC!
queen snow
Thank you :)
mellow glen
<@198650738979766272> u helped me a while ago, I got the pc
Nice!😄
how much did you end up paying
queen snow
how much did you end up paying
3029.99
Made a huge gap in my wallet but it was definitely worth it
fossil talon
Last GPU was delivered today. Thus officially ending my service
green harness
vital oriole
i believe combos exists cause well
they want to clear the stock lmao
people only getting gpus is bad for the business in a way
wanton verge
is it worth to buy a gtx 1650 super for 459$
im debating whether or not to get this one or a regular 1650
for 350$
nvm
dreamy dragonBOT
Boi_LingLing#2927 has been warned
wanton verge
why doesn't newegg ship to hawaii bruh
heady turtle
is it worth to buy a gtx 1650 super for 459$
Dear god no
Neither
Both incredible rip offs even in this time
lone pond
https://www.newegg.com/asus-geforce-gtx-1650-ph-gtx1650-o4gd6/p/N82E16814126446?nm_mc=AFC-RAN-COM&cm_mmc=AFC-RAN-COM&utm_medium=affiliates&utm_source=afc-NowInStock&AFFID=1709054&AFFNAME=NowInStock&ACRID=1&ASUBID=nismain&ASID=android-app%253A%252F%252Forg.telegram.messenger%252F&ranMID=44583&ranEAID=1709054&ranSiteID=AKGBlS8SPlM-4lufMKYOfkelUVHEiL0dWA heres regular 1650 for sale on newegg lmao 🇫
heady turtle
Could be worse
lone pond
Yeah but I just remember I bought 1660super for 230 years ago lol 
normal hawk
Ye
I got a 5700xt for free before crypto currency boomed again after the original dip. Lol
heady turtle
Danm lucky