graphics-cards

[hot folio]

I’m the same way, just make sure the clothes have the correct waist size and are tall

Like it’s an actual measurement

There’s normal then there’s tall

[heady turtle]

Ever heard of online shopping lol 3 years is a while without new clothes

[slim vessel]

as a 6ft 4.25 in person, i understand tall

[heady stratus]

It's a stigma from working at home, no reason to buy new pants when you just wear gym shorts and an undershirt every day

[spare relic]

I'm 6'3"

[heady turtle]

Yeah but stuff will get worn after 3 years lol

[spare relic]

Rommy small

[heady turtle]

Smol*

[spare relic]

lol

[quasi flicker]

Yeah, it isn't spinning

Rip card

[heady turtle]

When, what's happening

[hot folio]

I have no clue what I am in American terms but I’m 188 cm

[quasi flicker]

RX 550

Now to find a GPU st MSRP

[heady turtle]

What? No, they're not spinning while doing what?

[quasi flicker]

Anything

The fan is broken

[heady turtle]

You tried using afterburner?

[quasi flicker]

And it always spins

There's nothing there to stop it from spinning

[heady turtle]

Btw you can replace the fans yourself if you feel capable

[quasi flicker]

It's honestly not really worth it

[heady turtle]

Just adjust the fan curve

[quasi flicker]

Well

[hot folio]

Water block is always an option

[heady turtle]

In this market

[quasi flicker]

It might be, yeah

[heady turtle]

Custom loop an rx 550.....

[quasi flicker]

But who knows how much is costs

[hot folio]

Oh I thought he was talking about his 2070s

[heady turtle]

Bout 200-400$

For a custom loop

So really not worth

[quasi flicker]

No, a replacement fan

[spare relic]

abou 6'1" or something

[hot folio]

Is it a single fan card?

[heady turtle]

Ohh like 10$

[tender mulch]

take the old fan out and get the part number off the back

[quasi flicker]

Yeah, the VRAM isn't even covered by the heat sink lol

[tender mulch]

Google will do the rest

[spare relic]

abou 😳

[hot folio]

https://www.arctic.de/en/products/cooling/gpu-cooler/

[heady turtle]

6'2 but yeah

[hot folio]

Maybe try taking a look at the 2 single fan coolers?

[spare relic]

https://tenor.com/view/back-to-the-future-back-to-the-past-flying-car-gif-14179778

[hot folio]

Also possible slap a noctua fan onto it

Most likely

[quasi flicker]

None of those are compatible with an RX 550

[hot folio]

Ahh ok

Wasn’t sure about them

[quasi flicker]

Is there any way you can get a 2060 or 3060 at a normal price?

Or a 1660

[novel edge]

define normal

[quasi flicker]

MSRP

Or even like $75 more

[novel edge]

like pre-2021 msrp or current msrps?

[quasi flicker]

Kinda sad

[novel edge]

if you're near a Micro Center they get shipments fairly regularly of the 30 series but you have to wait in line, possibly overnight. I got lucky with my 6900xt because everyone wanted a 30 series, even got it below msrp

[quasi flicker]

Okay

[novel edge]

you can join the fixitfixitfixit discord or look at their youtube channel, they do in stock notifications but you're competing against the bots

[quasi flicker]

I'm not at home right now, and it died while my brother and mom were the only ones there, so

[tender mulch]

All of the 2000 series nVidia have been discontinued since last July. Prices are through the roof on the used market due to that and the shortage of course.

[quasi flicker]

My dad wants to just get a new one because we've been discussing getting a new one for a while

[tender mulch]

My used 2060 went for $500 when I sold it, $200 over original MSRP :/

[novel edge]

what'd you get to replace it?

[tender mulch]

i was lucky enough to get a 3070 January 5th from Best Buy.

[novel edge]

nice, I went through my first Best Buy drop last week and lost all hope

I'm going to try and get a 3080ti FE for my friend but I feel like that one's going to go the fastest

[tender mulch]

I spent almost 2 months trying to get mine

[novel edge]

not too bad

[tender mulch]

Not terrible but not what I'd call fun

[novel edge]

why does no one want AMD?

[tender mulch]

Because price

[cerulean rover]

feature set mainly

[tender mulch]

and nVidia has better performance in RT and DLSS

[cerulean rover]

you want any fancy new tech? NVidia got them, AMD doesn't

[tender mulch]

AMD is countering DLSS soon but it has to be hard baked into games, which aren't out yet

[cerulean rover]

FidelityFX may be interesting, but it's still not out

[novel edge]

yeah, but the fancy stuff is still more of a gimmick, still another gen or 2 before it's fully optimized

[tender mulch]

It looks interesting but has to be hard baked into games like DLSS

Which means it won't work on current or older titles unless the Devs rewrite them

[novel edge]

I paired my 5950x with a 6900xt and so far so good. I guess I just need the frames and not all of the fancy stuff

[hot folio]

I pulled the trigger on the NZXT Streamer PC

3k for a 5600x and a 3090

Not bad

[flat bridge]

https://community.microcenter.com/discussion/8642/rtx-3080-ti-rtx-3070-ti-discussion-and-faq

for you micro center nerds like me

get ur tents ready

[hot folio]

I’m bringing my camping grill with me

[flat bridge]

yesir

[hot folio]

Gotta buy off the crowd with food

Sure keep your spot but you don’t get my famous campfire grill, and s’mores

Which microcenter you heading to?

[flat bridge]

the one closest to me in PA

[hot folio]

I’m either the one in Flushing NY or Westbury NY

I got 4 microcenters within an hour or two of me

[flat bridge]

nice nice

[hot folio]

Last time I went to a microcenter overnight some guy brought his generator

[dry pecan]

this is beyond ridiculous.

something seriously needs to change lol.

[lyric wren]

I just got a 1650 because hey, I'm not in a big hurry to play in 4K/1440P

[dry pecan]

I'm looking to play in VR :/

[spare relic]

yeah so weird

[quartz gull]

They bring a "DLSS" competitor and bring it to AMD AND Nvidia gpus

[spare relic]

they make products and money

sso weird

[quartz gull]

Why develop it for gtx cards?

They put good R&D money into making it work for their competitor's gpu

[cerulean rover]

main bit that makes sense is putting it on pascal

[green harness]

Could be a way to pull customers away from nvidia

A 1060/1070/1080 owner tries out AMD's DLSS equivalent, likes it, considers an RX card for their next upgrade

[cerulean rover]

Aka. Highest steam market share cards

[green harness]

Yep, and with AMD having less market share than nvidia it's in their interest to try to pull customers away from nvidia

[cerulean rover]

Basically, it's dual purpose, it would keep pascal owners on pascal, limiting ampere sales, and pulling those customers towards AMD.

If it works, it should give AMD a slight advantage in ampere vs rdna2

[quartz gull]

Problem is

It also looks terrible

[cerulean rover]

also looks good for them to be giving everyone the ability to play, no matter the platform

[quartz gull]

I thought the showcase was on the low setting until 5 minutes ago

[cerulean rover]

making Nvidia the 'bad guy'

[quartz gull]

When they showed off the 1060

The only thing I can see this helping is people with 2gb cards like the 1050

It drastically lowers vram usage

[grim frost]

Excited to get this in

[pure carbon]

hey uhhhhhh, my 980Ti FE can't install any drivers newer than 365.19. I don't think it's a fake card, because in the games it CAN play, the performance seems to be on par. So, if there's anyone who's experienced in VBIOS's, could you please take a look at my vbios and tell me if there's anything wrong or if there's a newer one I should be on? https://www.mediafire.com/file/9h9nl75rdw3w1wd/GM200.rom/file

Or is this not the right channel for this kind of thing?

[slim vessel]

so, i'm pre-emptivly building a list of parts for my soon to be server. I will need a graphics card in it, but not really for display graphics. It will be manely used for rendering/transcoding video, and running heavily physics based games. would a workstation card be ok for this use, or will it need one of the illusive normal cards?

[wary anvil]

If you're using it in a server/workstation, then the server/workstation cards will be ideal

[dry ivy]

Has Newegg released their 3080Ti prices/listings?

[livid idol]

You can, in theory, install vbios that belong to partner cards as long as the physical specs match (same memory size and power inputs). You can probably get better performance doing this too. I checked the techpowerup vbios collection and there's a lot of versions that it lists as probably compatible. Some of them even have a base clock of +190 compared to yours.
If you want to check if your vbios is correct, run the gpu-z validation tool and try to upload the vbios. It'll tell you if there's an exact match already listed.

[pure carbon]

Ight. Which vbios should I do, asus?

[livid idol]

Personally I'd do this one. Same power plug configuration (6+8) but it'll boost your max power limit to 280W (300W OC). Just remember: with great power comes great heat.
https://www.techpowerup.com/vgabios/173803/inno3d-gtx980ti-6144-150610

[pure carbon]

Thx

I'm hoping this works, because the others don't

[livid idol]

You'll also get +152 base core clock and +47 memory with this bios

If it fails for some reason let me know, you might need to run a write protect disable script

[pure carbon]

I just turned protection off, time to c if dis works

It did not.

Idk, for some reason, no other vbios works, and ai can only install drivers up to 365.19

But it's still a GM200 chip

[livid idol]

Run that validation tool I mentioned

[pure carbon]

Gotcha

There were no duplicates found......

I'll send u a link to the bios.

Weird, it says 0mb bios...... in gouz it says 6gb

Gpu-z*

https://www.techpowerup.com/vgabios/234193/234193

Wtf?

And my gpu isn't working with the default 980Ti bios...

[livid idol]

All the numbers line up where they're supposed to be, and it's incredibly unlikely that you have a bios version never seen before. Sounds like something is corrupt or dying internally.

[pure carbon]

I figured as much, idk where the hell ima get a new card. I'm not even old enough to get a job where I live.

[livid idol]

Sorry to break the bad news, but at least it works a little for now

[pure carbon]

Yeah, at least I can play minecraft with shaders.

Also, I hear that gaming laptops die quickly, is this true? I've been looking into laptops to get in the future since I go back and forth a lot

[livid idol]

That's more a factor of heat, if it has a good cooling system then it'll last a while

[pure carbon]

I see

[livid idol]

Wait for laptops that are rated under AMDs new standards, they have a decent minimum cooling and performance spec set.

6500 and such should be pretty affordable

[pure carbon]

Yeah, although I plan on spending a lot, I want a laptop that can still pack a punch and play some decently intense vr, maybe add some supersampling.

[livid idol]

Then you're looking at at least a 6700XT laptop probably, maybe 6800.

[pure carbon]

Yeah. Either that or go with a ge66 with a 3070, the gpu temps r fine, but on all of the nvidia laptops, the cpus commit thermal suicide.

[livid idol]

The issue with that is also you never know for sure what the cpu tdp is limited at, especially with Intel. I saw one recent review where they tested 2 11th gen intel systems, and the i7 with a better tdp beat the i9.

Hang on I'll find the video

[pure carbon]

Same with the gpus, except now they're disclosing the tdp for them. Like a 3070 was beating a 3080. Ridiculous.

[livid idol]

https://youtu.be/MW3_VUgRafE

[vital oriole]

am jelly of that 1070ti

[rich wraith]

Am thinking about visiting my local Best Buy location today to try and get a 3070 ti.. Am I dreaming that I have a chance to get one?

[timid narwhal]

yup.. considering the card launches in a week, it would be a miracle if you found one

[heady turtle]

Best buy only drop gpus online so yes

Also it hasn't launched yet

[rich wraith]

ohhh >.< I assumed it launched the same time as the 3080 ti

why did I waste sleep on this

[heady turtle]

They also don't drop in person only online lol

[vital summit]

when is the next newegg shuffle

[karmic crag]

no one knows

there'll likely be one today, though

[cerulean rover]

In 2 hours

Single 3070 and a bunch of Radeon cards

[karmic crag]

oh nice

thanks for the heads up

[cerulean rover]

Yeye

[green harness]

Ooof looks like they had some leftover Zotacs from yesterday. Can't blame people at that price

[steady briar]

when will rtx 3080ti start selling ?

[green harness]

In about 24 hours

This is easy to google

[steady briar]

I mean in newegg

[green harness]

Check for a shuffle tomorrow....

[steady briar]

oh god it will be a shuffle that I never win

[steady acorn]

the 3080ti is stupid

please don't buy it

[magic wing]

Reason?

especially without any performance numbers to base what you are saying off of?

@steady acorn

[heady turtle]

Basically a 12gb 3090

[steady acorn]

reviews are up now

its a less expensive 3090 with half the vram that still has less value compared to a 6900xt

[magic wing]

Not from reviewers

[steady acorn]

they are

look

@magic wing

i can't post link

gamers nexus call its a waste of money

[green harness]

wait nvm was thinking of something else my bad

[tender mulch]

3080TI reviews are out

[magic wing]

I just checked

[tender mulch]

3070TI will be a week from today

[magic wing]

But yeah it seems like the 3080ti seems kinda between the 3080 and the 3090

100$ too expensive tho

minimum

[steep wind]

That's because it is...

The 3090 is the true 3080Ti

The 3080Ti should have been called the 3080 Super

[green harness]

I don't think the name is what matters here

It's price and performance

[magic wing]

Well the 6700XT was supposed to be an answer to the 3070

It really isnt tho is it?

just because it was supposed to be doesnt mean that it is

[tender mulch]

It kind of is, raster wise

Not price wise tho

[magic wing]

Even in raster it gets beaten by a 3060ti in some cases

[tender mulch]

in some cases, in some cases it doesn't

[magic wing]

The ti manages to land between the 3080 and 3090 in all cases tho so its atleast doing what it says it does which was my point

[tender mulch]

It's closer to the 3090 than the 3080

3080TI FTW3 from EVGA beats the 3090 FE in some cases or equals it.

[halcyon plover]

How much will it cost tho

[tender mulch]

Too much

[halcyon plover]

1500 atleast

[green harness]

oh wow, where did you see that?

[tender mulch]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9p5w_vY6SW8

[green harness]

Still no word on AIB pricing for the 80Tis right? Other than that they'll cost too much ofc

[tender mulch]

IDK, not done watching videos yet

[glacial kelp]

I like the title 😄

[dry ivy]

Which is why I'm waiting on newegg to list them. Would get an idea on pricing then. Locally we've been quoted USD2400 for a Palit 3080ti 💩

[glacial kelp]

And instead of releasing new GPUs, these mofos should first make sure there are GPUs on sale for the regular people that can't cough out 3000 USD on a GPU

Let's make more models. Who cares there aren't enough GPUs on the market.

We need some real competitors for GPUs, the way the mobile phones went.

[prime niche]

$329 for Evga 1080 FTW? good or bad

[karmic crag]

if you can assure that it's real then it's good

[prime niche]

ok

[tender mulch]

And working....

Seems pretty cheap

[steep wind]

For 2021 pricing, that is pretty damn cheap

[vocal anvil]

Somebody is selling a 3080 for 835, is that a good deal?

[green harness]

assuming the card works yeah

[heady turtle]

Super was the refreshed 2080s so that wouldn't make much sense

[fossil talon]

Ti makes sense due to its extra vram/hardware

[heady turtle]

Most likely a scam

[fossil talon]

Super was more of an overclock

[vocal anvil]

Is Facebook market place a scam

[fossil talon]

Sometimes

If it seems to good to be true, its likely a scam or a really nice guy

[tender mulch]

A good portion of things on there are now, yes, so be extra careful.

[glacial kelp]

In the current market it's not a really nice guy, why sell something cheap when everybody doesn't? To a total stranger?

[vocal anvil]

Ah, gotcha @tender mulch @heady turtle

[heady turtle]

And if buying from ebay make sure it's user taken photos, check description etc

Np :)

[vital pivot]

@robeytech: So these don’t appear to be right. The prices we are seeing now (embargo lifted this morning) are actually closer to $1339.99 USD MSRP for partner cards like the EVGA 3080Ti FTW3 (that price I got direct from EVGA). https://twitter.com/techdeals_16/status/1398702660027625473

Tech Deals (@TechDeals_16)

RTX 3080 Ti Pricing...

Those of you who watch our TNN videos or live streams know we called this weeks ago.

#cryptocurrency #Bitcoin #CryptoNews

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Twitter · May 29, 2021, 6:07 PM

So. I was correct and Tom’s was wrong.

https://tenor.com/view/rosycheeks-mochi-cat-mochi-peach-cat-peach-cat-nah-gif-16992959

And yeah. The 3080ti is a discounted 3090 lol

[cerulean rover]

I suggest you read the article again

[vital pivot]

Nah

[cerulean rover]

I won't bother then

[vital pivot]

Good

But I will add this. Evgas pricing is lower then I expected.

[green harness]

Also this: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/146460144576888832/849676669006643210/unknown.png

[vital pivot]

The 3080fe is $700 and the evga 3080 Xc ultra is $849. $150 difference. However the 3080ti FE is $1200 and the Ftw3 is $1339. $130 difference.

[green harness]

Still needs to be officially confirmed ofc

[vital pivot]

If it’s coming from robytech who works for Newegg and jayz2pennies then yes you can take it to the bank.

[green harness]

I'm very confident it's accurate, but I'm not going to say it's 100% until it's official

[tender mulch]

Robytech doesn't work for Wegg, he's just sponsored by them.

[dreamy laurel]

@hallow sun dm me

@hallow sun

[tender mulch]

they aren't here, no servers in common

Huh, maybe there are XD Discord being stupid

[dreamy laurel]

yeah

[solemn panther]

Mmmm

[hot folio]

Anyone knows how long NZXT takes to ship a prebuilt?

[heady turtle]

depends ive heard between 1 week and 3 or 4 weeks tho

[hot folio]

Ahh ok

That ain’t bad

Also do you know what AIB NZXT uses?

I know it’s Gigabyte but like what model of 3090?

[lone pond]

NZXT builder shows the brand. Giga 3070, Evga 3060 only ones available to see right now. We’re they the ones that shipped with FE cards ever?

[hot folio]

It’s the NZXT Streaming PC

The builder doesn’t show any 3090s

[cerulean rover]

Nzxt prebuilt is uh

Interesting

[hot folio]

I just bought it for the 5600x and 3090

I’m throwing it into a Lian Li Lancool II Mesh

And using a Crosshair VIII Hero as a mobo

[normal hawk]

Anyone camping outside tonight for the 3080 ti tomorrow?

[hot folio]

I might

Actually i definitely will

[normal hawk]

Good luck!

[hot folio]

What location you at?

[normal hawk]

I'm out of country so i can't :l

[hot folio]

Riiiip

[normal hawk]

4 more months until I can get home

Might see if my sister can stop by best buy for one 🤔 she lives near the best buy. Just on the off chance they have one

Is there a list of best buys that'll have them in stock at the location? I know it's select ones

[cerulean rover]

Stock drops made a best buy store checker if you want to know which stores get one
https://my.stockdrops.net/best-buy-checker

[normal hawk]

Ty!

[cerulean rover]

Nothing near me carried one :(

[hot folio]

I’m just trying to get one for a friend

[normal hawk]

Well that makes it simple, none near my sister either

[hot folio]

...why are kiosks in JFK airport getting them and not any of the big box stores by me

IN 3 TERMINALS?!

[cerulean rover]

Lol

[normal hawk]

Maybe microcenter?

That's. Bit farther out of the way for
My sister so I'm not too worried myself

Oh the vending machine they have at air ports with PC parts in them now? Crazy

[hot folio]

I have 4 of them within an hour of me so that’s my best bet

[cerulean rover]

Yea, MC would carry more aib cards

Bb is just only way to get FE

[normal hawk]

Maybe I'll ask her to check at lunch.

[hot folio]

Lmao imagine people find out an airport has 3080tis, booking flights just to get a GPU

[normal hawk]

Lol

[vital pivot]

Heh.

[novel edge]

wait, best buy isn't going to make it available on their website as well?

[vital pivot]

Bestbuy will have the 3080ti at limited locations.

https://corporate.bestbuy.com/what-to-know-about-nvidias-geforce-rtx-3080-ti-founders-edition-graphics-card/

Some people have indicate the stocks drop app is not correct.

Besides. The direct link doesn’t require an account.

[novel edge]

welp

[solemn panther]

dont get the 3080ti ppl

[tender mulch]

LMAO

Like people aren't going to buy it

[normal hawk]

Why

[solemn panther]

the value is BAD

71 percent more dollars for 8-11 percent over the 3080

[polar blade]

I mean even the 3090 is only like a 15% gain over the 3080 IIRC

kinda overkill for gaming but maybe useful in production environments?

[queen prairie]

wtf did I just saw

[solemn panther]

both bad cards for gaming

[polar blade]

bruh

[solemn panther]

the price is the ONLY problem

[polar blade]

I mean, good cards for gaming, just not for the price

[queen prairie]

1100

on walmart

damn

[polar blade]

bro what

[solemn panther]

3080ti preorder cancelled

[queen prairie]

a PS5

the price on walmart right now

went up to that

[polar blade]

i know that's just insane

[polar blade]

literally more than double the price

[solemn panther]

ik but its not a smart buy thats all

[queen prairie]

what the actual f**k

[tender mulch]

I mean, 3090 performance for less than 3090

Even beats the 3090 in some games

[solemn panther]

[timid narwhal]

4% faster than 3080 for 70% more price. BAD

the 3090 is also bad

for gaming

[tender mulch]

70% more price?

Where are you getting that?

[timid narwhal]

yes, MSRP

[tender mulch]

3080TI FTW3 is $1339

So

no

[timid narwhal]

what is 3080 msrp

[solemn panther]

3080 fe vs 3080ti fe

CHEAPEST model

[tender mulch]

Yeah, cherry pick one

[timid narwhal]

so go by msrp

[tender mulch]

EVGA 3080FTW3 MSRP 900

3080TI FTW 1339

30 something percentmore

not 70

[timid narwhal]

3080 is 700, ti is 1200, 500 difference, thats 500/700, which is is 70%

[solemn panther]

idk...

did the math

[timid narwhal]

simple maths

[solemn panther]

quick math

but hey if u can afford it go for it right?

[timid narwhal]

sure, waste money

why not

[tender mulch]

50% of 900 is 450. 900+450 = 1350. 50% increase/more.

It's actually 48%

[timid narwhal]

btw, got a bridge I can sell you

[tender mulch]

so

[timid narwhal]

😆

[solemn panther]

[tender mulch]

whatevs

Never said it wasn't a bad value

I said

3090 performance for less than 3090

[timid narwhal]

but we are saying bad value

and the 3090 is ALSO bad value for gaming

[tender mulch]

I dislike straw men.

[timid narwhal]

show me a straw man?

my opening argument was about value

literally

[tender mulch]

I'm not going to sit here and argue about opinions. XD

Buy it or don't. It will still sell out.

[timid narwhal]

good, cos not a single argument here is about opinion, its about hard numbers

[tender mulch]

Yes, 3090 performance for less money than a 3090.

Whether that's of value to you or not is up to you.

[timid narwhal]

70% increase in price for 4% increase in performance

[cerulean rover]

Performance also just doesn't really scale linearly with price normally

[timid narwhal]

gg wp

[cerulean rover]

Excuse me what

[tender mulch]

XD

[cerulean rover]

Source

[tender mulch]

We just covered the price increase but it got ignored so I'm out

[timid narwhal]

FE 3080 MSRP is 700, FE 3080ti MSRP is 1200

[tender mulch]

For the Founders Edition. AIB's are a different realm

[cerulean rover]

You know what, we'll go by msrp. Where's the source for performance?

[timid narwhal]

gamers nexus

[solemn panther]

welp my math skills sucks. 48 percent increase

[tender mulch]

Steve doesn't do the best GPU testing but I digress.

[timid narwhal]

yes, so you compare like to like.

[cerulean rover]

From GN testing, every game is around 5-15% advantage for 3080ti @timid narwhal

Not 4%

[tender mulch]

Just about every bench here was 10%, if not a little more with a huge selection of games and synthetics. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9p5w_vY6SW8

[timid narwhal]

and the FEs are the best way to standardize performance increase test

[tender mulch]

Of course there were some that were lower but most are 10% or more

[timid narwhal]

that was for the EVGA

[tender mulch]

WATCH IT AGAIN

[cerulean rover]

Ignoring when siege at 1080p was CPU bound

[timid narwhal]

calm down

[solemn panther]

REEEEE

this is what i hear in this chat

[tender mulch]

XD

3080TI FE

😉

[timid narwhal]

and I trust Steve over Jay any day

[tender mulch]

You shouldn't trust one source

[solemn panther]

same

[cerulean rover]

Meh, Steve didn't have enough benches this time around

There was like 4 games lel

[tender mulch]

Exactly

[solemn panther]

hes right just sum it all up by watching multiple channels

everyone gets dif results

[cerulean rover]

Literally 4, total war, siege, sotr, rdr2

But the takeaway I would get is NOT 4%

[halcyon plover]

Around 7-8% better

[timid narwhal]

Hardware Unboxed : 1080p 6% average, 1440p 7%

[cerulean rover]

Tbh I'm waiting for TPU review with the slew of games

[tender mulch]

Ya

More information, more better

[cerulean rover]

1080p will be cpu bound, that's basically given tbh

[tender mulch]

3080TI for 1080p, they tested that?

XD

[timid narwhal]

so you think 7% increase in performance is worth 70% increase in price?

[tender mulch]

That's CPU bound, not GPU

[halcyon plover]

No one is going to use 1080p on a 3080ti

Lol

[glacial kelp]

3060ti. That's what I want for 1080p

[solemn panther]

for FE NO

[tender mulch]

That's what you should get

[solemn panther]

i would just stick to trying to get a 3080 imo

[timid narwhal]

this

[tender mulch]

I'm far more interested in the 3070TI tests with GDDR6X

[timid narwhal]

this too

[cerulean rover]

Yes, but we can establish 3080ti is closer to 10% better than 3080 now, which is nice

[tender mulch]

Cuz I'll queue one of those up in a heartbeat

[timid narwhal]

I will agree to that, 100%

[cerulean rover]

Dunno how aib pricing will go for 3070ti tho

[halcyon plover]

Starting at 800

[timid narwhal]

oh good, thats cheaper than what I paid for my 3070

[halcyon plover]

After taxes tho?

[cerulean rover]

Who knows how aib pricing will go in general tho, we'll have to see

[halcyon plover]

Yes

[solemn panther]

either way the prices are extreme

[tender mulch]

Never really cared about pricing. If it's what I want, I just buy it. XD

[solemn panther]

nvidia know it will sell out so they dont care about gamers or people who care about how much they spent

[timid narwhal]

must be nice 😆

[tender mulch]

It is. I've busted my hump for that privilege.

[solemn panther]

FE 80 to TI: 71.67 percent

this time i checked vintage lol

[cerulean rover]

Nice

[solemn panther]

ftw3 80 to ti: 48.88

[tender mulch]

For the FE cards, yes. EVGA is less

haven't checked other AIB's

Still less than 3090 FE MSRP as well

Which is $1500

[solemn panther]

yeah only 25 percent increase

[tender mulch]

Compared to a 3090, good price. Compared to a 3080, bad price. All depends which side of the fence you're viewing it from.

[solemn panther]

but thats what they want you to think so u can reason that pitching in more money for a 3090 isnt that bad

[glacial kelp]

With the current bonanza they don't give a shite about what people think :)) Anything sells

[tender mulch]

Pretty much

[solemn panther]

Yeah

Greedy

when eventually get a 3080 im going to sell my 3070 for a good price then sell the 3080 for a 3080ti kek

[glacial kelp]

Why greedy? It's a big shortage.

If I would have 10 3090 I'd sell them to the max price I could.

If I wouldn't, I'd say I was stupid.

[solemn panther]

i keep forgetting we dont live in a fair market

ur right

[glacial kelp]

I don't see GPUs as a necessity 😛 You can use fair with medicine, health, education, etc. Gaming, drinking, smoking, etc, not really

I don't like the prices, don't get me wrong. I want a 3060ti, can't find one under 3,4 folds the MSRP.

But I understand that the prices are as they are because of various reasons.

[halcyon plover]

Im looking for a 3080 rn

And i will sell my 3070 or just keep mining on it

[vital pivot]

So to add a little fuel to this hot conversation.

I bought in 2019 for Xmas a evga 2080ti ftw3. It retailed for $1500

[heady turtle]

3070 might be a bit easier to get so keep an eye out for that too

[glacial kelp]

That would be perfectly fine for me too 😄 Thanks

Even better.

[vital pivot]

So keep that in mind when your blowing your gaskets about the 3080ti costs

[heady turtle]

3060 tis are quite rare so 3070 might be easier to find actually haha

[halcyon plover]

3060tis are super rare

[tender mulch]

It's not the cost itself

It's the price/performance ratio

[glacial kelp]

Damn, and I monitored only the tis :)) Going to add 3070

Me moron

[vital pivot]

They said the same thing about the 2080ti as well.

[tender mulch]

Yep

[vital pivot]

Exactly the same. This card is not for gamers.

Btw. Got this beautiful EVGA product today.

[halcyon plover]

Which one

[halcyon plover]

[glacial kelp]

I am not complaining, it seems fair to me.

[vital pivot]

At first I was not happy. Then I remembered what I paid for my 2080

[glacial kelp]

And you guys are definitely right, I can find more 3070. Which is pretty much the same with 3060ti

Thank you very much.

[willow tartan]

Anyone in line at the BB in Wichita?

[mellow glen]

Question? Does amazon have any sort of bot protection or do bots kill Amazon’s cards lol

[vital oriole]

nope

no bot protection

[vestal crown]

honestly with how rare it is to get a good gpu i might just get a 2080 ti

[dreamy dragon]

Aceuツ#5555 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

[vestal crown]

Oh?

[mellow glen]

Kinda rare, 2080ti prices are also very inflated rn though

[vestal crown]

I just want a gpu man

[vital oriole]

basically everyone

[vestal crown]

That I can play games on at high with stable 60

[vestal crown]

[dry pecan]

At this point, if I can get a 3080ti I'm gonna get it, price extreme or not. I don't care anymore. I wanted a 3080, I can't get a 3080, screw it.

not that I feel I'll have any better luck getting the ti, but if I can, I will.

[normal hawk]

Ye

[halcyon plover]

I mean if you get it for msrp it is worth it

But i think it will be way more

[normal hawk]

I bought a prebuilt with a 3080, but i usually have a dual PC setup so i don't play where I work anyway. So I'm still trying

[mellow glen]

I wonder how much the 3080ti is gonna be resold for

Bestbuy is doing in store only

[vital oriole]

these talks makes me keep reminding myself of that 3070 prebuilt I missed

[mellow glen]

ProbBly your best chance

[vital oriole]

dem mining profits

ree

[mellow glen]

If you go to Best Buy

[vital oriole]

would literally make the cash back in months

[normal hawk]

Abs has 3070's and 3060's often in prebuits on Newegg.

[vital oriole]

so here lies, me with 1660s

lmao

[dry pecan]

I would go with a prebuilt if I wanted to deal with reselling all the extras I wouldn't use from it.... so everything except the GPU.

[vital oriole]

i might game on it just to test it out

this machine is pretty much bare bones

everything important

nothing more

[normal hawk]

The prebuilt is basically an upgrade for my brother. If he decides he doesn't want it, it'll be a new server host.

[vital oriole]

normal for oem prebuilt

wish i got one from the SIs

[normal hawk]

10700k is a bit overkill for hosting servers though 🤣

Unless i host an Atlas server 🤔

[vital oriole]

kinda wish this one i have had 10400f or smth

3600x do idle high consumption wise

intel woulda idled way less

but tbh it doesn't impact electricity bills at all

[dry pecan]

honestly, anything made in the last 4 years would be an upgrade for me.

[vital oriole]

that's also my view rn lmao

[dry pecan]

MSI GT72 laptop with an i7 4710HQ and GTX870M .... Can't do anything. LOL

[vital oriole]

better than mine at least

[dry pecan]

ouch.

[vital oriole]

yeh

[hot folio]

Only upgrade is really want rn is an RTX 8000 or A6000

[vital oriole]

same cpu but 850m as gpu

[magic wing]

10W for me

[vital oriole]

oh

stock?

[normal hawk]

What do you do? :O

[hot folio]

Heavy rendering, CAD, as well as occasional data sets

[dry ivy]

Any idea what Newegg is gonna release their prices. We have leaked links to listing usually by now

[drowsy kiln]

For what 3070-Ti and 3080-Ti?

Newegg will put them into shuffles, they will not be up for purchase separate iirc.

[hot folio]

I’d assume tomorrow the shuffle will be only 3080tis

And maybe 6700xts

[drowsy kiln]

Something like that, but very unlikely that Newegg will list them on their own.

[hot folio]

Unless it’s teapots again

What time do you think EVGA auto notify will be?

[dry ivy]

3080Ti. And I'm not in the US. We don't get the shuffle. We get to purchase them separate. Like today my friend managed to snag a 3080 FTW3 off newegg.

[dry pecan]

But how?

[dry ivy]

The stock drops usually at a fixed time for us. So you got to hope and pray while hitting that F5 button as fast as you can. Then checkout faster than the bots

[dry pecan]

Ah... Y'all have different in-stocks the US doesn't see.

[dry ivy]

Yeah. Global stock

We get like 2 - 3 pieces per drop. So it's not much. But it's something. It cost US1,150 with shipping. If we had to buy the same locally. It would be USD3000+

[dry pecan]

Crazy.

[dry ivy]

Yeah. Miners around the region come shopping here it seems

[clever pagoda]

Scalp the 3080ti so no one buys it

[dry pecan]

So. Comparatively. I'm an Asus guy for most things, but how do their GPUs measure up to, say, the EVGA or Gigabyte versions? I have my eye on the ROG Strix but I'm open to options lol

For a 3080

[dry ivy]

I have the 2080Ti Strix. I'm aiming for the EVGA 3080Ti FTW3 cause the Strix won't fit in my case. Though I'd not skip a beat if I can get a white Strix. Then I'm changing my case. LOL
Anyway the EVGA FTW3 and Strix are at the same level from what I know. In fact some people say the FTW3 is better as it runs cooler/quieter.

[dry pecan]

I do like that white one lol. Case won't be an issue for me.

[dry ivy]

I've got a Meshify C. Might have to move to the newer one for the Strix

if i ever manage to get one that is. HAHA

[hot folio]

One of my family members in Poland managed to snag me a 3090 for MSRP only for it to get stolen while being shipped to the US

Got the money back at least

[lone pond]

Ugh that coil whine is too loud and making me wonder

[solemn panther]

Did you OC it?

[dry ivy]

oof. That's rough. At least they got a refund.

[lone pond]

Nope 🤔 But working under load

Not mining tho lol

[magic wing]

what card?

[lone pond]

Rx 6900xt reference model

[magic wing]

Yep it has horrible input output filtering

thats what makes coil whine in the card

not really coils

[lone pond]

Is it something to worry about ? 🤔

[magic wing]

Nah

not unless you into overclocking

[lone pond]

No really 🤔 I know coil whine is not harmful but it's too loud that I can hear it even when Cad systems working lol

I wonder something going wrong with it 🤔

[magic wing]

Nope

its very normal

[heady turtle]

its like the inductors or something iirc

just up your fan speed so you cant hear it

[magic wing]

input output filtering

[tender mulch]

Normally caused by rough power from your power supply

[solemn panther]

Oh

[tender mulch]

Poorly filtered/poorly regulated

[heady turtle]

ahh i see

[mellow glen]

Lmao how do you compete with a bot when you try to get a card from Amazon

[hot folio]

Make a better bot

You ain’t winning on Amazon

[mellow glen]

Valid

[dry pecan]

from my perspective I ain't winning anywhere 😆

wonder if I could run VR off the 11900K iGPU...

[heady turtle]

No

[glacial kelp]

Anyone from EU tried to use the backlog feature for GPUs on EVGA successfully?

[dry pecan]

My new computer's gonna be a beautiful paperweight then lol.

[heady turtle]

lol well you can use it for day to day stuff and light gaming still

[magic wing]

You can if you are fond of throwing up from terrible fps and freezes

[dry pecan]

I have my laptop for that... GTX870M kicks the iGPU's butt even.

[dry pecan]

haha. Somehow I doubt I'd even get the Oculus software to accept it.

[swift swan]

Got a noob question as I have been out of the build scene for about 20 years. Building a gaming computer for my daughter and looking for a good mid-range (if you call it) GPU around the $400 mark. Not sure what all games she's looking to play, but she did mention Resident Evil 8. CPU is an AMD Ryzen 5 3600X, 32G DDR4 RAM. Have been looking at the 1050TI's

[solemn panther]

3060ti FE would do nicely for $400

[livid idol]

IF you can get one

[magic wing]

I would get a good kit of 16gb over some 32gb ram with bad timings

Ryzen loves 3600mhz ram

32 is overkill for gaming as well

get a decent kit of 16gb 3600Cl16 ram

[upper grove]

RTX 3060Ti?

how much does it cost

[livid idol]

The Founders Edition (only sold by Best Buy) is $400

[swift swan]

I got 288-Pin DDR4 SDRAM DDR4 3200, so pretty much bad choice on that

[mellow glen]

400$ msrp I think? But they are rare

[swift swan]

I did some searching and so far nobody has the 3060ti

[magic wing]

link the kit

[solemn panther]

Yeah IF is the question

[livid idol]

Other models will run upwards of $500-600 retail (before tariff, VAT, other applicable fees)

[solemn panther]

NO Is the answer

Mostly

[mellow glen]

Yeah..,, really@tough to get any gpu for a decent price at the moment unless you’re lucky

Previous gen gpu@prices are also very inflated so it probably would not be in your best interest to resort to getting one of those

[livid idol]

3060ti is like a unicorn made of solid gold right now, EVERY crypto miner wants that card specifically and it's a decent value for gamers

[mellow glen]

Why the 3060ti specifically ? Just because of the price/performance you get with it ?

[mellow glen]

Your best bet is getting an FE model from Best Buy. They restock consistently every 2 weeks iirc

[tender mulch]

Yes, 3060 TI is best price/performance

30% faster than 3060

~10% slower than 3070

[mellow glen]

Ahhh I see thank you

[solemn panther]

Wow can't delete my messages

[pine rapids]

is the 3080ti launch gonna be the same as every other launch?

6am pst

[dry ivy]

Yeah

[livid idol]

General consensus is the 3080ti is not even worth trying to get, it's an obvious cash grab by nvidia. "Pay us 70% more money for 10%* more performance!"

[tender mulch]

Eh

So was the 3090

Even worse though

[pine rapids]

im jus gonna try on launch and if i dont secure one then back to hunting for a 3080

[livid idol]

3080 ti is a cut down 3090, so it's nearly as expensive even though it has half the memory

Might as well just buy a 3090 for $2500 at that point, it'll be scalped for over that anyway

[pine rapids]

really jus aiming for fe

dont plan on spending too much on aibs and not too crazy for the 3080ti

[livid idol]

Even FE is going to be $1200 if you manage to buy if straight from Best Buy.

[hot folio]

Main gear Vybe Stage 3 has a 3060ti for about 1.7k

https://maingear.com/product/vybe-stage-3-dec2020/?utm_source=google&utm_medium=cpc&utm_campaign=6451511884&utm_adgroup=76620256065&utm_term=&gclid=EAIaIQobChMIpY7-nPv58AIV8xoGAB25AwP2EAAYASAAEgKyCPD_BwE

[livid idol]

For a whole PC? I mean if it's a 5900X or something that wouldn't be bad

Nope not a good deal at all

[hot folio]

Really?

[livid idol]

5600X is around $300, often less lately, 3060 ti I'll say generously is $550 retail, cheap memory kit $75 (4x4, really?), $40 SSD, $20 HDD, $50 PSU

They're charging an extra $400+ on top of all that

(didn't include mobo because it's usually garbage and costs them nothing)

[hot folio]

Mobo is an MSI B550M Pro

Doesn’t change much but it ain’t some no name thing

[livid idol]

So it's a $75 board then

[heady turtle]

And that case is aweful

[hot folio]

Yeah the case is pretty bad

But that’s the case for most prebuilts

I didn’t even mean to make than pun

[heady turtle]

Look at the abs prebuilts usually decent enough

[hot folio]

Oh yeah I always forget those exist

[livid idol]

I think buildredux lowered their gpu prices back to almost normal

[hot folio]

I’m not buying a prebuilt rn since I ordered the NZXT streaming PC but I just put it out there because I heard it was a decent deal but I guess the Vybe isn’t

I’ve never heard of buildredux

[heady turtle]

It's owned by digital storm

[hot folio]

Looks like what NZXT BLD originally started out to be

[livid idol]

They proudly display "only $75 build fee" in every ad and their site

[hot folio]

Lmfao it’s part of the link

[heady turtle]

Was true ish until they yeeted their gpu prices out of this world

[heady turtle]

Lol

[green harness]

They're charging $1,199 for a 3080 right now, which unfortunately is not too much higher than what some of the AIBs are charging

[hot folio]

Still too much imo

[heady turtle]

Ehh it's ntb

But yeah not great

[livid idol]

It's honestly not much over retail considering tariffs and such

[green harness]

Right, I'm not saying it's good, or affordable compared to the market, but like 50 or 100 dollars over what some AIBs are charging isn't a HUGE difference

[heady turtle]

It's quite difficult to actually tell what the aibs msrps for the cards are cuz they are selling at different prices

[hot folio]

I love how EVGA didn’t crank their prices up

[solemn panther]

Evga is our friend

[livid idol]

2k gets you a pretty nice PC on build redux

That's even a downright usable case

[heady turtle]

Yeah, i wish it was the td500 mesh instead tho

[livid idol]

It looks like it is

[heady turtle]

Says they using td500

There's 2 versions

But mb it is mesh im on mobile so cant see great also compression

[livid idol]

The front looks like the mesh version

[green harness]

BB and Microcenter are decent benchmarks imo, as well as direct sales from the AIBs that do that

[heady turtle]

Idk I heard of 2.4k msi 3090s from micro, at the start in like January when prices where timid

[livid idol]

My Gigabyte 3090 was $2600

But they're the most obviously cash hungry AIB

[green harness]

MSI prices have been higher than most other AIBs for ages

[heady turtle]

I thought msi where worse, my gigabyte 3070 was only 720€(including tax) compared to msi 3060 ti that was listed for 650 (not in stock)

[river siren]

is newegg gonna have any 3080ti's for the launch?

[tender mulch]

Hope so, we will see in the shuffle tomorrow

[hot folio]

I’m just going to enter the EVGA queue as early as possible tomorrow

Easier than camping out a microcenter

[jaunty mango]

hey is vintageracer feeling well again?

[hot folio]

EVGA is seriously making it easier for people who already have a gpu to get a 3080ti

Lmao what a joke

[remote sequoia]

[hot folio]

At this point I’m starting to think ASUS is the least scummy AIB

[livid idol]

Asus and evga I feel

[dry pecan]

I've always liked Asus.

[livid idol]

For the most part evga is good for the gamers with their partnership with LTT and queue system

[hot folio]

I’ve lost respect for their queue because of the 24 early access for Elite members

Like what’s the point of giving people who already have GPUs early access to the 3080ti/3070ti

[livid idol]

It doesn't need to be a GPU purchase to qualify for the program though, right? That's what I heard at least

[hot folio]

True but still its a bit scummy

[green harness]

There are more ways to get elite than just buying EVGA products

[hot folio]

Only other way is to have over 100 posts on the forums

[green harness]

Also channel points

[hybrid ocean]

Hey anyone know a gpu thats good enough for gta5 five m

below $900

@wary anvil

[wary anvil]

GTA5 will run on pretty much any recent GPU

[hybrid ocean]

what about Sapphire Radeon RX 580 4 GB NITRO+

[wary anvil]

How much would you pay for it?

[hybrid ocean]

$405

[spare relic]

too much

[wary anvil]

Def more than it'd be worth in a normal market

[hybrid ocean]

ok any sug

[wary anvil]

I'd try for the 8GB version, maybe closer to 300

[hybrid ocean]

this is what im going to build

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/mLFngt

[wary anvil]

The big issues with GPUs right now is that it's basically impossible to find a new one, and the used ones are very overpriced 😦

[hybrid ocean]

ok well how dose my list look thought

[wary anvil]

Checking it out rn

AIO for looks?

@hybrid ocean https://pcpartpicker.com/list/J883p2
Here's with everything but a GPU. Finding a decently priced GPU is not gonna be easy right now. How do you feel about buying used?

[keen nacelle]

This 3080 ti is disappointing

Not even a consistent 300fps on apex legends on low settings 1080p

Seeing a low of 265 which don't get me wrong is still high, but for that msrp?

Should easily be a consistent 300fps

[jaunty mango]

dang bro ill take that off your hands if your dissapointment lol

im rocking a gt710

[keen nacelle]

On robeytechs stream

I dont have one lmao

[jaunty mango]

oh lmao well it was a joke anyway

[keen nacelle]

Yeah ik

[jaunty mango]

i dont got that kinda money to buy one anyway

[keen nacelle]

Isn't vega 11 better than the gt710?

710=1030 I think

Vega 11=1050

[hybrid ocean]

thanks

[jaunty mango]

amd seems to have broken the vega drivers since i have constant problems with mine

[keen nacelle]

Rip

[dry pecan]

@hybrid ocean I run GTAV on my GTX870M ... no I'm not maxing out graphics or anything as it only runs about 30-40 fps at 1080p, but it's well playable at least.

[keen nacelle]

I'll never go with an amd card. Drivers are annoying as hell

[wary anvil]

NP. If you end up getting a 580, aim for the 8GB version and aim for paying less than $300

[hybrid ocean]

ok i want to play five m

[jaunty mango]

i just got a gt710 to test wether it was my mother board or the drivers that were broken

[keen nacelle]

I ran gta5 on a 1030 at 80fps low settings 1050p

[dry pecan]

I don't know what five m is

lol

[keen nacelle]

Ah kk

[jaunty mango]

its a mod

[livid idol]

3080 ti is an obvious cash grab, I heard some tech 'tubers say they had sources saying the msrp was supposed to be $1000 but they raised it.
So now it's "pay us 70% more money for 10% more performance!"

[jaunty mango]

its mostly for rp servers from what ive heard

[keen nacelle]

If it was 16gb the msrp would be a slight bit better

But 12gb is too little for that strong of a card

[tender mulch]

I mean, 1080p low is cpu bound not gpu.

12 gb isnt needed until 4k

[keen nacelle]

It's with a 5900x

[jaunty mango]

actually speaking of my gpu

[livid idol]

It's only going to matter at extreme resolution like 8k

[hybrid ocean]

Gta 5 rp

[keen nacelle]

Currently yeah, but when games advance the vram is gonna be the issue

[tender mulch]

Still cpu bound

[jaunty mango]

@tender mulch my mother board isnt broken i just bought a gt710 to test my graphics and its amd drivers not any hard ware problem

[dry pecan]

So what I see here is that given the choice between the 3080 and the ti, at current MSRP you'd choose the 3080 base anyway?

[tender mulch]

Anything over 240 fps in 1080p is reliant on the cpu. 3080 shouldnt be used for 1080p if we being honest.

[livid idol]

It'll be a few years before that happens, and by then we'll have newer models of GPU and the 3070 will be laughably bad like the 970 is now

[keen nacelle]

Fair enough

Idk if he's benching 1440p too

[tender mulch]

Might be cpu. Graphics is in the cpu. If you added a card and bo issues, could be drivers or igpu.

[jaunty mango]

maybe

[livid idol]

Yeah anything higher than a 3070/6700XT you want to be running 1440p-4k

[jaunty mango]

but anyways im gonna be returning the gt710 and saving up for something like a rx580 or 2060

[keen nacelle]

Ima be trying to trade my full hashrste 3060 ti for a lhr 3070/ti. Hopefully I can find a local miner

Also it hits slightly above average for a 3060 ti mining, 62mh/s with a 65% power limit

[lone pond]

Did i miss the 3080ti chat

[keen nacelle]

A bit

[livid idol]

If you've got more to add no reason not to say it still

[hybrid ocean]

can i ask why are gpu so much im just getting into pc gamming ive played on consle since wii

[lone pond]

Ah i was going to point out how, posturing aside, nvidia and amd dont care about diy/gamers

They never had and we are here to catch scraps

[dry pecan]

if any manufacturer of anything says they do, they're lying.

[lone pond]

They make more money off the opm and buisness sectors

[livid idol]

They're usually not this bad, it's this generation being more expensive than previous ones combined with the global silicon shortage affecting every industry

Sprinkle in tariffs and VAT according to your country and it's a recipe for disaster

[lone pond]

I mean screw the local repair and build shops if they dont bulk order right tech manufacturers.

I have three customers i have had to turn away just this week due to lack of anything to aquire if i dont order a pallet.

[livid idol]

Yeah in the end AMD/Nvidia are just businesses that care most about their bottom line. They can pretend otherwise, but that's the underlying truth.

[lone pond]

Hell i cant even source lesser parts really for people wanting larger scale builds for video

[livid idol]

The part I find MOST ridiculous about the new ti models is the LHR limit. Before you could buy a GPU above your budget and just mine on the side to get some money back. You can't even do that any more, so I can't possibly see people justifying a $1200+ GPU.

[dry pecan]

desperation.

[lone pond]

Its a facade

[livid idol]

If you're that desperate I feel sorry for you, because these companies are absolutely taking advantage of you

[lone pond]

That limit will be broken by incompetence or "incompetence"

[livid idol]

It's supposed to be a hardware level limit this time, unlike the 3060

[lone pond]

Buddy of mine ordered a prebuilt to basically waste just to get a 3070. Im buying his 1080 at a decent price whenever it arrives. Decent is 450 this market is killing me.

They tried this hardware limitation before and it caused problems

[livid idol]

Yeah time will tell if it falsely detects rendering workloads as mining or something

[lone pond]

it might even be why the 3080ti is only 2%ish more powerful than the 3080 in games

that will be a conclusion with the 3070ti i think.

[livid idol]

Well a better GPU won't make a difference in many 1080p tests, and even some 1440p ones, if the GPU isn't the most limiting factor for the title.

[lone pond]

im talking the 4k results mostly but the 1440p ones without dlss and rtx on would be exacting.

[livid idol]

The game engine itself can be the throttle point

[tender mulch]

2%? Where'd you see those results? Please don't say GN, he only used 4 games

[halcyon plover]

All the new 3080s and 70s are lhr now too?

Or they will still have both lhr and normal ones

Was planning to get a 3080

[livid idol]

All the ones that are made starting this month, it'll be a while before they hit market

They'll also all be clearly marked as LHR on the box

[halcyon plover]

👍 i hope i will get one soon then

[wet forum]

yo is a zotac 3060 for 775$ worth

[livid idol]

That's double the retail cost so I'd say no

[mellow glen]

I got a 20% off code fromEVGA when doing the elite member thing... basically I can get 20% off if I land a GPU from them ??

Boutta wake up early tomorrow to get in queue ASAP lol

[livid idol]

Check the terms on that code

[mellow glen]

It said ANYthing from EVGA store , lemme see again

[livid idol]

Even if it does let you use it for a GPU it's probably limited to an upper $ amount

"Max $50 savings" or something

[green harness]

Those codes do work for GPUs

[mellow glen]

damn

[livid idol]

That's not the full terms

[green harness]

I have heard of people using the rare 40% off code on a GPU purchase and saving a bunch

[mellow glen]

full terms says their store but is talking about like shirts

i mean if i land it then no harm in trying

[green harness]

I didn't see an invoice, but I'd definitely try using it

[mellow glen]

^^6

[green harness]

Also worth using an associates code

[mellow glen]

lets hope i snag one 🙂

whats that

[green harness]

3.5% off

[mellow glen]

ooo who's to use

[green harness]

Not sure if it stacks with the coupon or not

[mellow glen]

doubt

The EVGA ELITE Spin to Save for New Members is open only to new EVGA ELITE members that reside in the Continental US, Alaska, Hawaii, Puerto Rico, and Canada and join the EVGA ELITE program on or after February 12, 2021. Existing ELITE Members are not eligible to participate in this promotion, nor may existing members cancel their EVGA ELITE Membership to rejoin and participate.

Eligible members are permitted one spin at the Spin to Save wheel, and the random prize selection is final. Members are not permitted additional spins, nor will EVGA provide additional spins at the member's request. Coupons for discounts on the EVGA store are permitted for one purchase of a single product available on the EVGA store, and will expire if the coupon remains unused after 90 days. Rainchecks are not permitted if a product is out of stock. Coupons cannot be used on other promotions, such as the EVGA Step-Up. Orders containing a Discount coupon and multiple products may be cancelled at EVGA's discretion as a violation of these terms.

Prizes for physical products, such as T-Shirts, will be shipped by EVGA's choice of carrier and speed. Members are required to keep an up-to-date shipping address on their EVGA profile to ensure the product will be shipped to the correct address; EVGA will not be responsible for any packages shipped to the wrong address due to an ELITE Member's failure to maintain a current shipping address, nor will EVGA assist with redirecting or cancelling a shipment in progress. ELITE Members are expected to maintain the correct Shirt Size on their EVGA profile; EVGA will not be responsible for shipping the wrong size T-Shirt due to an ELITE Member's failure to maintain their current shirt size on their EVGA profile.

full terms, kinda broad though

[livid idol]

Wow no upper limit, surprising. I've also seen on Reddit that the code DOES stack with associate codes.

[mellow glen]

oh wow that sounds kind of nice

well mine expires in 90 days, if i dont get a spot in that time i will probably give code away to someone who does get a spot

[dry pecan]

So. Serious question. As much as I'd love to jump in and throw money at a 3080ti first thing tomorrow just because it's all I might have a chance at in the near future... Should I just wait a while and see if things start picking back up in the GPU world? Because I really just don't have the desire to be sitting on the computer all day refreshing pages in the hopes that something will finally be in stock. I'm too impatient and restless for that.

[livid idol]

Honestly, the 3080ti sucks for the price but if you're desperate enough just go for it

[dry pecan]

lol. Luck does not run in my blood.

I don't think I've ever won something in my life lol.

[livid idol]

That just means you're due

Can't win if you don't play the game

[dry pecan]

Oh I play plenty, as long as there's no pay-to-play involved.

cuz that imo is just a waste.

odds are too low.

[livid idol]

And sometimes you pay with your personal data...

Or you have to watch an ad...

[dry pecan]

mmm... no I don't do that either lol.

I could be down with that. lol

depending on the game.

[livid idol]

That's what the gamer gauntlet is, you just watch the LTT videos and decode the link, then do whatever task they choose for that specific drop, could be a gamer quiz or a browser platform game, then you're in line.

[mellow glen]

tomorrow, you should spam refresh the page for like EVGA correct?

or does that mess with bot detection

not sure how that works tbh

[livid idol]

Bots refresh at inhuman rates, like every .1 second

[dry pecan]

my internet connection wouldn't work for that lol.

[mellow glen]

i just heard people saying not to like spam it otherwise you could be. just wanted a confirmation or suggestion

[livid idol]

Bandwidth isn't a factor, just ping

[mellow glen]

basically refresh as quick as your computer/internet can handle

?

[livid idol]

Yeah just go for it, refresh to your heart's content

Just don't rapid press the button 10 times a second lol

[dry pecan]

6am PT? was that the number I saw earlier

[mellow glen]

yes

[dry pecan]

I mean for my browser to refresh at .1s lol. I use cellular data tethering... It works when it wants to, and sometimes very slowly.

[livid idol]

Keep in mind bots don't load the whole page, they're quite happy to run on 500 Kb/s as long as ping is under 120ms

[mellow glen]

does evga have bot protection? 😅

[livid idol]

Yes, for whatever that's worth these days

[autumn flame]

Does anyone have a 6800+3060ti pc?

My 6800 keeps crashing

[livid idol]

Mixing GPU brands will have unexpected results like that due to kernel level conflicts

[lone pond]

wow

gpus you cant get

lol

[verbal cedar]

what time do you think the 3080 ti will drop?

[mellow glen]

6am

Pst

[mellow glen]

At least for EVGA. Best Buy is doing in store only so you’d have to check if your local Best Buy will have them

[verbal cedar]

I am gonna look on b&h, newegg, and gamestop

oh and adorama

I can't drive so I'm not gonna be able to go to best buy

[mellow glen]

Newegg will be doing shuffle

GameStop I’m not sure

I would check starting around 9am EST

[lone pond]

dont forget office depot

[livid idol]

Office max and staples too

[lone pond]

i think office max and depot are the same now

same site at least

[livid idol]

Oh yeah forgot they merged

Partially at least

[mellow glen]

do they do in person stock or online only

[dry ivy]

Newegg prices are up for the 3080Ti. And they are terrible for most of the model.

[lone pond]

man what the hell microcenter

[mellow glen]

mbn to have a microcenter

[lone pond]

they got 6900s as well for ... lets see... 2.8k

how is this different than scalper prices. i miss frys

[dry ivy]

3080Ti Newegg UK prices. Sigh

[mellow glen]

rip frys electronics

actually had onme

ended up being a ghost town XD

[lone pond]

refine by "sold by newegg"

those listings are pre-emptive

[dry pecan]

no Asus?

[dry ivy]

All shipped by UK

[heady turtle]

That's pretty decent tbf you didn't think aib cards are gonna be msrp

[heady turtle]

They said uk, shuffle is US only

[dry pecan]

well I mean if the MSRP is supposedly $1200 anyway, the first 5 aren't that far off...

[lone pond]

my heart would go out to you if i ever received an email about the time i won the shuffle

[dry ivy]

Some AIB's are way too expensive. EVGA FTW3 is 1414. MSI Gaming X is 1799 which is madness

[heady turtle]

Msi are just money hungry at this stage, but there are multiple at msrp soo

[mellow glen]

EVGA is gonna be the cheapest i think right?

typically

[heady turtle]

Or at least not to far from msrp

[dry ivy]

These are not in USD. Prices are in pounds.

[dry pecan]

ooooooh I just noticed that.

[dry ivy]

USD vs £ ....

[heady turtle]

Usually the pound msrp isnt too much less than usd amount tho

Like 50£ less usually

[dry ivy]

That is true. But still. £1445 for a 3080Ti Eagle. LOL

Even Gigabyte has gone mad

[dry pecan]

1213 pounds at the current exchange rate according to google is ~1720 USD.. That's insanity.

[dry ivy]

Don't see any

[heady turtle]

The eagle is 1213 look top right

[dry pecan]

I mean I don't have to have Asus.... But they are my faves lol.

[dry ivy]

non-OC. They never make those. I've only seen overpriced factory OC models on sale

[heady turtle]

They're basically the same tbh

The non oc models you can oc yourself in 5 minutes

[dry ivy]

Yeah. I'd rather get a non-OC and OC it myself. But nope. They won't sell any

[dry pecan]

well if that's reflective of how the US prices are going to scale, I'm out.

[dry ivy]

Most probably they are. I'm going XC3 ultra or nothing

Not going to bother touching anything else

Maybe the FTW3. But nothing above that

[dry pecan]

hmm. Apparently Asus is going with a hybrid cooling setup on one of theirs.

https://rog.asus.com/articles/gaming-graphics-cards/geforce-rtx-3080-ti-asus-rog-strix-tuf-gaming/

[heady turtle]

Tbh the 3080 ti fe is barely worth it imo only like 5% more than 3080, and you can actually get those under 1200

[dry pecan]

if you can at all.

[lone pond]

the 3080ti was noted to run hot

at least a few reviews i saw showed that]

[dry ivy]

We don't get the FE

[lone pond]

nvidia isnt even listing the FE

[dry pecan]

I just love the look of the ROG Strix 3080s. Looks like they have a similar design for the tis.

[dry ivy]

White one. I'd love on of those

[dry pecan]

yeah that's the one I've been eyeballing all week haha

"dreaming, I'm always dreaming..."