Racer maybe a windows install media usb will help
#graphics-cards
magic wing
tender mulch
So the second you see the Windows logo on your screen, hold the power button
Do that until you get a screen like this
nova marlin
Can this hurt my system in any way?
nova marlin
😂
tender mulch
Just being honest
nova marlin
I will try rn thanks
tender mulch
XD
tender mulch
Racer maybe a windows install media usb will help
unfortunately you can't repair install from those :/
magic wing
unfortunately you can't repair install from those :/
Worst case might have to reset PC
tender mulch
Trying to avoid that but
nova marlin
Uhm
tender mulch
This is pretty well borked
tender mulch
That's something, let it work
livid idol
Windows will do that if it fails to boot too many times, if it fails to do the auto repairs the recovery screen comes up next
tiny halo
Hi - I have a "quick question". I'm assembling my first PC (I know, sorry. If there's a better forum, please direct me). When I power on the system, I don't get a boot screen and I can't interrupt the boot to get to the bios. My monitor is connected to the video port on my motherboard. The monitor goes into power save mode shortly after I power on the system. I've heard that some CPUs require a graphics card. How can I tell if that's the case for mine? That is, does the fact that I've got video ports on my motherboard indicate that I don't need a GPU (at least to boot)?
tender mulch
What CPU is it
nova marlin
Automatic
tiny halo
i9-10850K LGA1200
nova marlin
Okay it says restart or like advanced options
tender mulch
i9-10850K LGA1200
That does not require a Graphics card, no. What motherboard is it in?
tender mulch
Okay it says restart or like advanced options
Advanced options
tiny halo
ASUS Prime B460 Plus
nova marlin
tender mulch
middle option
nova marlin
tender mulch
Bottom option
nova marlin
nova marlin
Restart settings
tender mulch
yes, that one
tender mulch
Startup settings
nova marlin
It says i need to restart now?
tender mulch
yes
nova marlin
Okay
tender mulch
When it restarts select Option 5
tender mulch
4 or 5 is fine
nova marlin
Okay
tender mulch
Once you get to safe mode undo everything you did with CRU and set display back to factory settings
tiny halo
That does not require a Graphics card, no. What motherboard is it in?
ASUS Prime B460 Plus (sorry I didn't reply - also new to discord)
nova marlin
Once you get to safe mode undo everything you did with CRU and set display back ...
I’m in
nova marlin
Once you get to safe mode undo everything you did with CRU and set display back ...
There is a option with cru that resets all the options, is that good?
tender mulch
ASUS Prime B460 Plus (sorry I didn't reply - also new to discord)
IDK anything about CRU so I need you to undo everything it did
tiny halo
IDK anything about CRU so I need you to undo everything it did
crossed messages
tender mulch
Indeed! Sorry XD
nova marlin
I did undo everything, what’s the next step
tender mulch
Restart and cross your fingers it worked
nova marlin
Restart via pc or via the case button
tender mulch
Restart from Windows menu
tender mulch
ASUS Prime B460 Plus (sorry I didn't reply - also new to discord)
Ok so, that motherboard doesn't have diagnostic LED's. What slots is your ram in? Is the CPU 8 pin power supply plugged in?
nova marlin
Thank you so so much!!
tender mulch
Thank you so so much!!
cappy gave you the instructions. I just pounded them into your head. XD
inland wyvern
Just got a new Alienware r12 with no gpu. Need any suggestions for a gpu that is affordable that will do decent without gamjng
nova marlin
Tank you @last hatch too!
tender mulch
Now quit mucking about with CRU so you don't break it again. XD
nova marlin
Now quit mucking about with CRU so you don't break it again. XD
Yeah lmao, thank you man. Such a good guy 😂
tender mulch
Yeah lmao, thank you man. Such a good guy 😂
If it happens again at least you know what to do. I know how popular stretched res is for some games
nova marlin
If it happens again at least you know what to do. I know how popular stretched ...
Yeah well so be it, no stretches res for my ig 😂
tiny halo
Ok so, that motherboard doesn't have diagnostic LED's. What slots is your ram i...
RAM is in slots 1 and 3 as you move away from the edge of the board. "the CPU 8 pin power supply" ? There's a power header on the edge of the mother board to which I've connected a more-than-eight pin connector from the PSU.
heady turtle
When you say move away from edge of board you mean right to left?
tender mulch
Ok, at the top of the board on the upper left corner is another 8 PIN power connector. That is specifically for the CPU.
That's a pic of your specific board. Without that power connector it won't boot
For clarity on the ram, it should be slots A2 and B2 rather than counting them
tiny halo
Fantastic: it's not connected. I'm sure that I missed that "step" in all the many directions. That would be the source of all my woe. I will try this. Thank you abundantly. As mentioned before, you are a hero to many. I kinda knew that the RAM slots had designations, but I didn't want to name them incorrectly and I wasn't sure what they were called. Thanks for your patience on that. It's also cool that you retrieved a graphic of my particular board.
tiny halo
Yeah, from where did you grab? ASUS?
tiny halo
Wow. Thanks! I'm learning my way around.
tender mulch
haws all the drivers, manuals etc
tiny halo
Ah, very good. Very good. Thank you again. I will try again to boot this PC.
tiny halo
That did it. PC booted. Thank you so much. I'm into the BiOS setup - on the road. Much happiness. Much joy.
tender mulch
That did it. PC booted. Thank you so much. I'm into the BiOS setup - on the r...
Fantastic!
Glad this one was easy XD
nova marlin
Glad this one was easy XD
Fantastic XD
mellow glen
Is bestbuy gonna sell the 3080ti? If anyone knows
Where should I be looking for them when they drop
livid idol
No solid info on any of that but I assume they will sell them on Best Buy
mellow glen
Damn I wonder how fast they’re gonna sel out
livid idol
Possibly a FE model but again, no solid info
mellow glen
I rlly wanna get my hands on one but feel like bots are gonna beat me💀
livid idol
Give it .35 seconds
karmic crag
^
mellow glen
What do you guys think the most realistic way to get. Is
Like what site will I have best luck
livid idol
Besides Newegg shuffle? Best Buy is probably second best chance
tender mulch
We don't even know where they're being sold yet XD
livid idol
Yeah true, all we can do is speculate.
tender mulch
If we had answers, you'd be getting them
tender mulch
There's no info, only speculation at this point
mellow glen
I see, thanks for the help tho
livid idol
THERE IS NO DATA, ONLY ZUUL
novel edge
The hash rate is supposedly supposed to be capped on the 3080ti so hopefully that deters miners so we just have to go against scalpers
they're making miner specific cards but cant limit the hash on the ones THEY are targeting to gamers?
I'm going to try and get one anyways for my friend, so far I'm liking the 6900xt for myself
livid idol
They can completely limit the hash rate on the FE cards, they're simply choosing not to and only enforcing that restriction on the AIBs
winged stag
My Gigabyte rtx 3080 doesn’t run hot. I might be one of the lucky ones. But I just play valorant etc cod haven’t edited video with it yet. But as a precaution I want the best thermal pads & paste. Am I right?
.
heady turtle
Ehh the thermal paste on gigabytes cards is perfectly fine it's just the thermal pads that aren't there on the back making the memory hot
winged stag
Ehh the thermal paste on gigabytes cards is perfectly fine it's just the thermal...
Yeah but I’ll see. I do wanna add some to the back plate. So to replace them all. I recently took apart my old card to replace some things as practice for this task. I’m scared.
uncut barn
what is the difference between rtx and gtx?
heady turtle
what is the difference between rtx and gtx?
Rtx is this gen and last gen and can do ray tracing
uncut barn
if looking at trying to get a 3080 or something, what brand would you recommend? like what's the difference between the EVGA 3080, gigabyte 3080, ventus 3080, etc...
just the stuff in it and the cooling or what?
winged stag
I just went from a gtx 650 ti boost to a rtx 3080. I’m still speechless. 60hz to 162hz ish it’s to smooth go my eyes 🤣
clever pagoda
I hope 3070ti is gonna be gud
heady turtle
if looking at trying to get a 3080 or something, what brand would you recommend?...
Whatever you can get for closest to msrp
clever pagoda
And explode if it's listed online above msrp
uncut barn
does each brand have its own msrp? or is it a general rtx 3080 msrp is X price?
heady turtle
does each brand have its own msrp? or is it a general rtx 3080 msrp is X price?
Whatever you can get for the cheapest basically
mild trench
does each brand have its own msrp? or is it a general rtx 3080 msrp is X price?
Each card type has it's own MSRP. They are all above the baseline Nvidia msrp. Like EVGA has multiple options for cards with different options (ie: different overclocks or rgb) each has it's own msrp.
clever pagoda
Ye but if it's above 200$ msrp the cards should be set to fry lol to combat scalpers
mild trench
you know, is there a way to get myself pinged whenever there is a shuffle?
I'm not sure if it'll ping you here on Discord but if you go to the shuffle webpage there should be an option to subscribe to alerts. Otherwise it seems to start most weekdays at 11am EST
uncut barn
welp, it isn't sending me a verification code >.>
topaz osprey
Anyone know why my rx 580x 4gb shoots to high temps and goes black screen and fans go full speed?
vital pivot
You probably need to repaste it and possible new thermal pads
tiny gyro
hey i need some help picking some parts for a pc
mellow glen
When getting a 3080 do you need to get different thermal@pads or ?
mild trench
hey i need some help picking some parts for a pc
Shoot. Can't say I'll be able to help but put it out there and maybe someone will know which way to go.
tiny gyro
OK
solemn panther
When will it end!?
green harness
Ehh the thermal paste on gigabytes cards is perfectly fine it's just the thermal...
I think the pads they use are garbage too (as in it's not just the lack of pads, it's the quality as well). I just re-pasted and re-padded my Gigabyte Gaming OC today
wicked ferry
hey i need some help picking some parts for a pc
I’m somewhat new to the server, don’t have too much credit here, but I believe I may be able to help you if you’re still looking for someone to help
blissful path
should i sell my rtx 2080 for a 3070
green harness
should i sell my rtx 2080 for a 3070
Only if you can actually get a 3070
green harness
Sure, for context the 3070 is probably about 10% faster than a 2080 super from what I understand
hybrid kettle
eternal blade
O ok
craggy tundra
Im on the brink of painting the black on the msi gaming x 2070 to white
Would it look good
craggy tundra
What if i put some clear tape over it and when i sell it i just take it off
lone pond
don't paint your graphics card
why not
it's a doable thing
but you need the right paint
inland cave
gross
inland cave
don't paint da gpu
lone pond
don't paint da gpu
inland cave
heady turtle
I think the pads they use are garbage too (as in it's not just the lack of pads,...
For gaming the pads are fine as the video mem doesn't get that hot but for mining they definitely need to be replaced
novel edge
sounds like it was built properly then 😅
heady turtle
No lol people use gpus in memory intensive workloads that aren't mining
novel edge
I know, but anything that upsets miners makes me happy
heady turtle
I know, but anything that upsets miners makes me happy
You realise majority or miners are gamers just making money while not gaming
novel edge
they're not the ones buying dozens of cards at a time though. It's not mining in general, it's the "miners"
heady turtle
they're not the ones buying dozens of cards at a time though. It's not mining in...
A miner is someone that mines .... No matter the scale lol
novel edge
y'all are missing the point, I'm talking about someone that dedicates computers to solely mine or who has farms
heady turtle
Yeah but that still makes 5 or less card miners feel the same lol and other peoples
green harness
For gaming the pads are fine as the video mem doesn't get that hot but for minin...
I had my memory temps hit 110 in a game. In most games the temperatures were below that, but a couple have caused it to spike big time
heady turtle
Yikes
vital oriole
oof
green harness
Well it doesn't do it anymore thankfully
Was a bit stressful to do my first GPU teardown, but die and memory temperatures are both better 🙂
heady turtle
Nice
fiery pasture
So uh
glacial kelp
This crypto drama lowered a bit the prices on the websites I am following, but they still are 2 folds.
Which is better than 3 and 4 as they were 2 weeks ago 😄
mellow glen
What’s like a decent price to resell a 3070
Not selling; just asking a price range that’s decent
glacial kelp
MSRP 😄
mellow glen
Fair
What are the differences between the 3070 FE and any of the aftermarket more expensive versions
As far as performance
vital oriole
Not much, but the other, especially the asus tuf is a lot ahead in cooling
Has nice pads for the vram too
brave violet
clocks, backplate or RGB
mellow glen
For the most part is it worth the extra 200 ? Or at that point just go for 3080 FE
(MSRP)
glacial kelp
Usually the price reflects a palpable difference. Sometimes it matters, sometimes it might not be such a big deal, but the difference is there.
heady turtle
What are the differences between the 3070 FE and any of the aftermarket more exp...
3rd party can oc a lot better
clever pagoda
Apparently a 3080ti is gonna be 2k
heady stratus
And yet it still will be throttled by that 13GB in 4k
eternal plaza
I wish I could cop a 3080/90 I just can’t find them anywhere or if I do not overpriced
hot folio
Or SharkSRP
SharkSRP
heady turtle
Apparently a 3080ti is gonna be 2k
That would be dumb because that's 500 over 3090 msrp
brave violet
Apparently a 3080ti is gonna be 2k
MSRP? Or scalper price?
green harness
I'm sure Nvidia MSRP will not be more than the 3090 MSRP. My guess is $999 to $1199
brave pasture
How can I get a graphics card from Newegg I have notifications on but it never seems to say in stock
boreal heron
if its an rtx card then it make sense
green harness
How can I get a graphics card from Newegg I have notifications on but it never s...
Newegg shuffle. See pins
spark gust
Ay bois! Im pretty new to building computers, i built my most recent one, and it has lasted me a while. But im in desperate need of a decent graphics card. i recently got a new job, and i finally have some money to spend on one, i just dont know which one to go for.
Currently, i have been looking at the geforce rtx 3070, i was originally told it wasnt to expensive, seeing seeing listing for it at about 800-900 dollars. While being really good. But i guess somthings up with it recently? With the prices ranging more around 1k-3k? i dont really know tbh.
Eitherway, does anyone have any suggestions on a decent graphics card i can go for, that isnt 2-3k lol. Any advice/ knowledge is appreciated, thanks!
drowsy kiln
Currently not really with the shortages and everything, or at least anything near power of a 3070
errant thicket
@spark gust if you live near micro center you can try to walk in at random times or camp
I got mine for 800 with tax for 3070 after a couple random walk in’s
glacial kelp
Anyone tried to email some shop they regularly get PC components, more or less regularly, to ask to be added to a waiting list?
I am curious if it works.
fossil talon
Ah yes but I'm in Canada
mellow glen
idk why i chickened out
i was really telling myself
i was gonna wait till i get a 3080
but i coulda bought and resold
im monkey
lol
runic crypt
hey i think i raised almost enough funds for the gpu i need
spare relic
nice
naive ermine
Those damn miners
spare arch
hot folio
AMD truly let me down with the 6700xt
vital oriole
meh
spare relic
dunno what you expected
vital oriole
^
spare relic
they returned it lol
timid narwhal
is the performance that bad? reviewers didnt mention that it was disastrous (between 3060/3070)?
spare relic
no not really
it's roughly equivalent to a 3060Ti or a 3070 not accounting for RT
which...they have the 3070
timid narwhal
ah
verbal cedar
is it worth it to try to get a 3070 ti?
timid narwhal
is it worth it to try to get a 3070 ti?
depends on what you have now and the price of the 3070ti
verbal cedar
I have a RX 570 4gb
latent tiger
server silent af
verbal cedar
I want to build a new pc
timid narwhal
I have a RX 570 4gb
oh yeah, then it will be worth it for sure. huge increase in performance
timid narwhal
no idea. if youre not super desperate, it might be smarter to wait till next year though
New Intel chips are coming at the end of the year, and that will affect pricing of curent gen chips as well as performance standings
verbal cedar
Yeah I would really like it soon but I want to be able to get it for a real price
magic wing
I have a RX 570 4gb
Very nice card
verbal cedar
Are you making fun of it?
verbal cedar
Ok
verbal cedar
In what way?
verbal cedar
Do you have a 8gb or 4gb
magic wing
4gb
timid narwhal
I also have a 1400
never heard of that
spare relic
ryzen
timid narwhal
I am so excited for you man. your new rig is gonna blow your current one out of the water
magic wing
Just upgrade to zen 2 or 3 and call it a day honestly
verbal cedar
Yeah I want a 3070 ti and a 5800x or maybe 5600x
spare relic
depending on what motherboard you have, it might not be practical
magic wing
depending on what motherboard you have, it might not be practical
It definitely wont
verbal cedar
?
spare relic
1400 is pretty early, don't think earlier boards can even support 5000 sries
timid narwhal
what motherboard do you currenlty have?
verbal cedar
I am going to need a new one I know
spare relic
yea
verbal cedar
I need a brand new everything
timid narwhal
whats your current budget?
spare relic
the most powerful low profile gpu is a 1650
timid narwhal
I want a small form factor pc
you mean ITX?
verbal cedar
Itx or micro ATX
timid narwhal
itx looks great no doubt, but it will cost more and maintenance is a PITA
verbal cedar
Yeah I think micro ATX is good cause it will let me make a custom loop if I wanted to later
timid narwhal
indeed
verbal cedar
But that will take a long time before I want to do that
Is a 5600x a little low power for a 3070 ti
Or is a 5800x better?
timid narwhal
nah, the difference is negligable. what resolution do you play at? 1080p?
magic wing
nah, the difference is negligable. what resolution do you play at? 1080p?
up to 5% difference
I would get an intel chip instead of a 5600x tho
like an 11500
or 11600k
timid narwhal
up to 5% difference
UP to 5%. thats if youre pairing it with a 3090 at 1080p. Its not a noticeable difference, and not worth it for the price difference.
magic wing
lmao
timid narwhal
i didnt say you were wrong
I know, I was just expanding
magic wing
theres no way the 5600x is under 250
timid narwhal
giving more context
spare relic
exact number is not something you can give :^)
timid narwhal
theres no way the 5600x is under 250
earlier in the conversation I mentioned the new Itel chips coming end of the year. That should shake things up a bit>
magic wing
exact number is not something you can give :^)
eh close enough according to benchmarks
magic wing
earlier in the conversation I mentioned the new Itel chips coming end of the yea...
next year right
magic wing
IDK i dont think it will e this year tbh
semiconductor shortages are affecting launches
alder lake already got pushed back once
timid narwhal
dammit... dont bring your logic and facts into my fantasy world... 🤣
clever pagoda
Why does the keynote have to be at 10pm pdt
heady turtle
Cuz
vital oriole
^
ionic delta
bruh onl
vital pivot
The key note is at 10PDT is because nVidia thinks all the miners are sleeping.
green harness
well it's that time because Computex is on Taiwan time
clever pagoda
timezone are a myth created by time wizards
fossil talon
well it's that time because Computex is on Taiwan time
You're from AB right?
green harness
You're from AB right?
AB?
green harness
I'm in the EDT/EST timezone. I just have coordinated with folks in other timezones quite a bit
fossil talon
EDT and MST for me (depends on the summer/rest of the year when I move around)
solemn panther
craggy tundra
anyone know any good graphics card support brackets
worthy bough
It's funny I got crap for buying a 2060 Super to hold me over for a 3080 (before they launched) and it's been such a blessing. I still haven't been able to get a 3080.
worthy bough
I paid $400 for it last summer.
spare relic
that's not so bad 
worthy bough
It actually plays CP2077 at 60 FPS on high with ray tracing off.
spare relic
yeah it's more than decent performance
clever pagoda
3080ti boutta be on eBay for a million
vital pivot
So. Some guy on YouTube with 38,000 followers posted this today.
Bleh
Err does anyone think it’s real.
tender mulch
Thats from tomshardware
clever pagoda
I mean 3080 ti could be better than 3090
cerulean rover
Ya
@vital pivot the photo is literally stolen from here lol
https://www.tomshardware.com/news/multiple-geforce-rtx-3080-ti-models-listed-for-more-than-dollar2000
cerulean rover
So 3080ti loans will be a thing then.
MSRP is supposed to be 1100usd (rumor)
They're just being listed overseas at higher prices
vital pivot
For instance, a custom GeForce RTX 3080 graphics card starts at $2,600 in the U.S. market.
Yeah no.
cerulean rover
Stock left over on Amazon and such 2000$ easily
They don't say MSRP
Read the end of that paragraph
cerulean rover
Of course, but Newegg doesnt really have it in stock
verbal cedar
when do you think the 3070 ti will release?
vital pivot
The article like Tom’s is junk
cerulean rover
I assume they went off "what is the price if we look it up on amazon right now"
Smh
cerulean rover
Lol
cerulean rover
What did I say
vital pivot
I think your giving Tom’s hardware a pass
cerulean rover
I never said MSRP, or sold directly by the retailers
Probably, they have very good SSD testing, but I don't see anything wrong with the estimate
vital pivot
Yeah. If it’s that high then the AIBs will have plenty of stock
green harness
I mean 3080 ti could be better than 3090
not likely no
vital pivot
I can afford one but am I going to pay for one that high. No
plush bane
has anyone had any experience with the asus 2080 ti turbo?
cerulean rover
I literally look up 3080 on amazon and first cards are 2500 and 2600
vital pivot
I would say lazy reporting for clicks is the answer
cerulean rover
Oh well, toms hardware has a bunch of different writers
vital pivot
Let’s revisit this Thursday when the 3080ti hit the market and see how close Tom’s is.
solemn panther
vital pivot
So you support Tom’s article on the projected pricing they posted or not?
cerulean rover
So you support Tom’s article on the projected pricing they posted or not?
Not projected, the pricing already happened overseas, for the chart
The chart isn't their projected pricing
It's pricing that showed up on retailers
vital pivot
The article lists one retailer and indicated that they didn’t know if it was a placeholder price
cerulean rover
"LambaTek has listed prices starting at $2,000"...
"LambdaTek is a foreign shop"
Indeed
cerulean rover
So you support Tom’s article on the projected pricing they posted or not?
So they listed no projected price, it's just commenting on what already happened
vital pivot
The whole article is click bait.
cerulean rover
No matter what toms hardware does, just take it at face value
clever pagoda
Well like I said 3080ti gonna be a million $
cerulean rover
Its reporting on pricing that showed up on foreign retailers, that's what it is.
clever pagoda
Cuz peeps are gonna buy it anyway
dry ivy
Do we have any listings up on newegg for the 3080Ti?
cerulean rover
Nah
clever pagoda
It hasn't even been announced yet lol
cerulean rover
No listings
dry ivy
Well we already spotted them locally last month for USD3500. So Newegg is our only saviour
cerulean rover
Think what you want about toms hardware, I'd just take the chart they give at face value for what it is :p
vital pivot
Worthless value
dry ivy
It hasn't even been announced yet lol
I know... but leaks happen. The cards are already in retailer hands for sure.
novel edge
they're saying that it's very similar specs and benchmarks to the 3090 so why not price 🤷♂️
green harness
Because my wallet
novel edge
I think it's been established that they want to empty it
green harness
Sadly true
spark gust
So is it just impossible to get a graphics card for less than 1k
Like, is there a way to preorder the rtx 3070 or somthing so when it’s back in stock? Everywhere I have looked it’s out of stock or 1k+
heady turtle
Like, is there a way to preorder the rtx 3070 or somthing so when it’s back in s...
You gotta wait for drops /enter the newegg shuffle
And evga queue i suppose
But if you join that you'll probs end up getting a card by 2022 in the queue about everybody and their mum is in that queue
mellow glen
do we have an idea if amazon will have any stock for prime day this year?
like would it be a good assumption to make that they would, or is it hit or miss w amazon
heady turtle
narrow osprey
There has to be an Asian site where cards live
fading briar
Sorry. It was a joke!
I didn't even know they made graphics cards with that low of level!
I thought I made it up
Number not level.
clever pagoda
Is it worth staying up for the keynote
Or do you think pre-order isn't going to be available right away?
hot folio
What’s the best way to try to get a 3070ti drop?
dreamy dragonBOT
crazycrash115#7944 has been warned
tender kite
What’s the best way to try to get a 3070ti drop?
bot
hot folio
Ain’t stooping that low
elfin parrot
yo so I have two gpu's in my system atm
and Im setting up mining profiles on msi afterburner
for the coreclock i had it set to curve at 1100mhz
when I try to set it the same to my other gpu it doesnt work
it resets
do I just have to put the core clock manually?
verbal cedar
What does everyone think about the $1200 3080 ti?
wraith pasture
wraith pasture
sage hill
sage hill
What does everyone think about the $1200 3080 ti?
It's so industry lol
verbal cedar
Is there anything I can do to have a chance of getting a 3070 ti on release?
timid narwhal
I guess just be ready ? Have all the major websites open
you know that scene in Mad Max Fury road when the guy gives the peasants some water?
mellow glen
No LOL
timid narwhal
oh.. well then now my metaphor is ruined. But you should watch that movie. its amazing.
🤣
mellow glen
Where was the metaphor headed😂
timid narwhal
well theres a dude that controls all the water. and then he lets out a little from a huge pipe that sits above a crowd of peasants, and they all scramble to get a little of the water and fight each other for like a teaspoon of water. Basically the GPU market right now
heady turtle
What’s the best way to try to get a 3070ti drop?
Best buy at launch time maybe /shuffle
heady turtle
3070 ti less wattage than 3070???
wraith pasture
heady turtle
Wack
surreal crown
timid narwhal
tasty
heady turtle
Probs best buy, Newegg shuffle, and most aib card sites that usually sell like evga zotac etc
mellow glen
Ahh do they already have pages linked to the card or not yet ? The aib sites
limber flax
you know that scene in Mad Max Fury road when the guy gives the peasants some wa...
I get it
heady turtle
Ahh do they already have pages linked to the card or not yet ? The aib sites
Just refresh the 3000 series product page i guess
mellow glen
Ooo okay good to know. Thank you
mellow glen
how does the EVGA elite notification thing work? Say i wanna be in the queue for the 3070ti, how do i get the 24 hour notice if anyone knows
halcyon plover
So 3070ti is using ddr6x
timid narwhal
So 3070ti is using ddr6x <:thinkies:807875039100928010>
want to see what actual real world imrpovements the changes yeild
halcyon plover
I hope it will be more , im just guessing ...
heady turtle
It's supposed to be same % jump from 3060 ti to 3070 so probs about 10%
heady turtle
Haven't gotten a chance to watch computex yet but probs in the next week or 2
Nvm june 3rd apparently
granite smelt
Guys am I dumb for holding off on buying a 3090 to get the 3080ti instead thinking it would be a way better deal?
Cause I feel dumb
weak cape
Well what are you using it for
Cause 3090 is overkill for anything other than serious productivity @granite smelt
Would go 3080ti if you are just looking for a beast of a GPU for gaming
granite smelt
It’s taking me hours to render ~200 frames on some simple renders in blender. Even using cycles x
Like some super basic stuff
weak cape
Okay for basic stuff 3080ti will do fine
It’s a watered down version of the 3090
Just way less VRAM
granite smelt
I feel like I’d utilize double the vram
magic wing
3070 good enough for light rendering tbh
weak cape
Yeah
timid narwhal
It’s taking me hours to render ~200 frames on some simple renders in blender. Ev...
my brother uses a 3090 for blender, and it has changed his life
weak cape
3090 might be overkill if you’re doing basic stuff though
granite smelt
I’m using a 2070s and it got me thinking my computer is hot garbage
timid narwhal
for a professional, there really is no substitute.
weak cape
Well rendering takes time, even on a 3090
magic wing
How complex are the scenes that you are rendering and also what cpu u got?
granite smelt
I’m no professional but I’ve had the money put away ever since I built my current rig
magic wing
for a professional, there really is no substitute.
Quadros
What CPU u have with that 2070S?
weak cape
You might benefit better in getting a 5900x
timid narwhal
And double my ram so I have 8gb
OOF! yes, get more ram first!
magic wing
nope. not even close to the 3090 when using blender
A6000 quadro beats it iirc
granite smelt
Nah I’m being facetious. I’ve got a humble 16
magic wing
Honestly pick up a 3080 and a 5900x
hot folio
Any form of CAD will benefit well from a good cpu with solid single core performance as well as 32Gb of ram
Most cad programs in my experience only use one core
Or at least a lot of them
magic wing
Blender isnt really cad and is most definately multicore capable
lone pond
CAD taking advantage of single core performance but ofc it needs multicore performance as well
10700k feels very well on CAD working to me
heady turtle
Yeah 10700 would be my budget cad recommendation
dry ivy
Any idea when we'll get links for Newegg listing. Want to know the prices for the 3080ti
heady turtle
Newegg doesn't have any listings outside the newegg shuffle btw but apparently 3rd june is when they go on sale
dry ivy
Newegg doesn't have any listings outside the newegg shuffle btw but apparently 3...
I'm not in the US. We don't get the shuffle here. We get random 1-2 pieces via the normal listings.
spare relic
West coast even xd
dry ivy
Majority of people who ask are from us
I understand. Our cards are usually connected to the shuffle. So like today there is the 3070 Aorus and 3070 Zotac. We will get maybe 2 pieces of each. Obviously got to fight them bots but there is a 0.01% chance I might get one
heady turtle
Lmao
Amd fsr(dlss competitor) coming out 22nd june 
Fsr works on geforce gpus too :o
timid narwhal
so its a software solution?
tender mulch
Amd fsr(dlss competitor) coming out 22nd june <a:hera:720639786213310515>
Has to be hard coded into games tho
heady turtle
Well so is dlss
heady turtle
Has to be hard coded into games tho
Ohh :/
tender mulch
So will be like DLSS
tender mulch
Maybe
spare relic
Out here enabling FSR on my GT 730
tender mulch
Need to see actual implementation to decide
heady turtle
Out here enabling FSR on my GT 730
Well they did a demo on the 1060 so mb it'll work for you too
tender mulch
Lol, 10 series or higher
green harness
Lol, 10 series or higher
RIP my GT710 😆
heady turtle
RIP my GT710 😆
Ahh yes cant wait to play 1440p on my 710
green harness
Ahh yes cant wait to play 1440p on my 710
I technically could if I wanted I'm sure. It'd just be games from like 20 years ago
heady turtle
I technically could if I wanted I'm sure. It'd just be games from like 20 years ...
Think launching a game at 1440p on that would be impressive
heady turtle
Ngl ppl who major in IT no nothing about specs and price/perf etc
They mainly just learn about servers if at all
🙄
F
last hatch
Get what you want and can afford, don't worry about naysayers
heady turtle
Good brother lol :)
verbal cedar
the neg egg shuffle right now has 3 3070s
Ok
How different is it?
Why is the Tuf one $900? That seems like a lot
vital oriole
tuf 3070 is one of the best 3070s around tbh
it can mine without needing thermal pad replacement
cerulean rover
Meh
heady turtle
Bruh beggers cant be choosers
heady turtle
it can mine without needing thermal pad replacement
All the 3070s can tbf it's the will be 70 ti/80 /80 ti/90 that need the repadding cuz g6x
glacial kelp
Newegg should definitely open up a shop in Romania 😄 They are missing out on a gigantic market! And we are missing out on msrp shuffles :/ I wish I could pick "the right" 3060 ti model :))
vital oriole
romania is much smaller than the us tho
glacial kelp
romania is much smaller than the us tho
Shush, nobody knows that.
vital oriole
newegg is fine with living in the us and canada only atm
or will be forever, who knows
mellow glen
On June 3rd does the 3080ti only drop or is it the 3070ti as well
cerulean rover
3070ti is the 10th
mellow glen
Ty
verbal cedar
If you want a GPU you kinda are a "beggar"
verbal cedar
On June 3rd does the 3080ti only drop or is it the 3070ti as well
3080 ti
3070 ti is on the tenth
verbal cedar
Which
mellow glen
3080ti😂
cerulean rover
Most cards won't be at msrp anyways
verbal cedar
I want a 3070 ti
mellow glen
That is true, I’d wanna snag an FE card but even then 1199 is a bit too much
vital oriole
won't be 1199
mellow glen
No?
vital oriole
it'll be over that
mellow glen
Even the FE card??
cerulean rover
FE prob will
mellow glen
Ye that’s what I’m referring to
cerulean rover
Dunno why it's so high this time, wonder if they took into account tariffs at all
heady turtle
If you're looking for a gpu in this market you're a begger Xd
green harness
I'm most interested in seeing how much above Nvidia msrp the AIB prices go
heady turtle
it's tariffs
The distributors cough cough
vital oriole
msi, more like MeScalpIn
green harness
Gigabyte isn't exactly cheap either 😦
EVGA is the mvp of keeping prices closer to MSRP
heady turtle
Cheaper than others
green harness
yeah, cheaper than some others
heady turtle
Got my 3070 gigabyte for only 200 over msrp of 3070
green harness
MSI is a lot worse than meh imo
They've got a bit of a history of anti-consumer behavior and tactics
heady turtle
msi is overall a meh company at best
Afterburner tho 
Yeah but you got ltt gpu
Can you smell the linus?
vital oriole
my everything laptop and desktop related is ironically asus
heady turtle
Lol
vital oriole
i daily asus laptop, and mine on asus machine
heady turtle
Nice
vital oriole
i one moment almost got to buy an asus phone
heady turtle
I have gigabyte mobo and gpu rest uwu
vital oriole
they have a lot of non rog phones for a long time
zenfone
oh yeah the m1 is zenfone loo
they also had some intel x86 phones too, runs on android
the atom z series
heady turtle
they also had some intel x86 phones too, runs on android
I remember that yeah don't think it did great lol
vital oriole
it.. flopped
basically
cause android has huge support for arm only
almost none for x86
my prebuilt sometimes makes this weird noise from the psu
probably the fan's fins slightly hitting the cable inside
heady turtle
What psu is it?
vital oriole
it's an oem psu
ofc a prebuilt lol
when it makes that noise i made sure there's no burning smell
so im sure it's just the fan
the noise is basically it possibly hitting its own cable here and there
mellow glen
o yeah just try hitting it
sometimes when mine makes noises ill give it a love tap and itll get better
normal hawk
3080 Ti paper launch in two days
slim vessel
Percussive maintenance is a real thing.
heady turtle
sometimes when mine makes noises ill give it a love tap and itll get better
A gentle shake will actually fix stuff like that sometimes lol
mellow glen
🙂
normal hawk
E3 is next weekend right? Not this upcoming one the one after
heady turtle
Doubt it matters tbh not many exciting things happen at e3 anymore
solemn panther
3080ti bad
heady stratus
Maybe if they gave it 16 GB of GDDR6x , 12 is inexcusable
Throttling vram at the first sign of 4k textures
normal hawk
What game uses a whole 12 in 4k?
normal hawk
Unoptimized games, got it 😤
heady stratus
once you start modding games, it will be
normal hawk
I'm upset the 3070 ti is 8 gb though for sure
cerulean rover
There's also vram allocated doesn't mean vram used, anyways
normal hawk
Like, the 3060 has 12, why can't the 3070 ti 😡
normal hawk
3060 runs 4k better than the 3070 and 3060 ti
normal hawk
On resident evil 8
cerulean rover
Source?
Unless you're doing something really dumb like 16k textures, that should NOT happen
heady stratus
It's still a mind boggler
supple socket
uhh
cerulean rover
Ye, waiting for source
heady stratus
I don't feel like looking over Benchmarks to validate
brisk flame
still waiting for source
cerulean rover
Lol
brisk flame
then no one here believes such a ridiculous statement lol
heady stratus
Will be waiting to see the first wave of Benchmarks, I don't think these will be as popular with reselling
brisk flame
its not a matter of popularity, its a matter of availability
quick sierra
^
brisk flame
they all gonna be scalped, even if the performance is dog
heady stratus
Probably.
cerulean rover
At least it'll make people stop saying mining is the issue hehe
green harness
At least it'll make people stop saying mining is the issue hehe
Not possible 😐
normal hawk
I'm looking for it. Hold on a moment.
It was a specific benchmark done. Might have been altered
cerulean rover
3080ti supposed to be all LHR, and the number they gave was 43mh/s, which is fun
quick sierra
What are you guys getting out of a 3060ti mining?
cerulean rover
Something like 50-60 sounds about right
quick sierra
Mine is currently running around 45~
green harness
The 4K benchmarks I've seen show the 3060 to be unsuitable for 4K except in the least demanding games. For example: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3C-RoDtqdJ8&t=551s
cerulean rover
Dunno
green harness
Sub 60fps in a bunch of titles
cerulean rover
Check with actual 3060ti owners
quick sierra
I have one
green harness
3080ti supposed to be all LHR, and the number they gave was 43mh/s, which is fun
wow, that's lower than I would have thought
cerulean rover
LHR means halved so
green harness
yeah I guess that makes sense
cerulean rover
Iirc 3080 does like 70, 3070 does like high 50s, 3060ti a bit below
Don't remeber
green harness
Iirc 3080 does like 70, 3070 does like high 50s, 3060ti a bit below
at LHR or do you mean stock?
cerulean rover
3080 3070 3060ti doesn't have lhr versions yet afaik
green harness
ah, well 3080 is like 85-95 mh/s
cerulean rover
I know they say they're doing it, but I don't think any are on the market yet
Eh, bleach has a 3080, could ask him
Lmao
I mean sips bleach
The guy
heady turtle
3080ti supposed to be all LHR, and the number they gave was 43mh/s, which is fun
Video cards.net or something got 65mhs on 3080 ti iirc
heady turtle
Mine is currently running around 45~
Have you overclocked your memory and taken down your core clock and power?
Clorox gpus 
cerulean rover
Video cards.net or something got 65mhs on 3080 ti iirc
Ah I misread
Note: GeForce RTX 3080 graphics cards with LHR (lite hash rate) ship May 2021. Check manufacturer listing for LHR products. GeForce RTX 3080 GPUs with LHR deliver 43 MH/s ETH hash rate (est.).
quick sierra
Have you overclocked your memory and taken down your core clock and power?
Nope, have adjusted any values yet. Been running it for maybe 3-4 days
Haven’t adjusted*
heady turtle
Ah I misread
> Note: GeForce RTX 3080 graphics cards with LHR (lite hash rate) s...
Makes more sense yeah
heady turtle
Nope, have adjusted any values yet. Been running it for maybe 3-4 days
That's why
green harness
Nope, have adjusted any values yet. Been running it for maybe 3-4 days
You should drop your power limit and oc the memory a bit assuming temps are acceptable
heady turtle
Lol
green harness
also drop core clock a bit
dry pecan
curious, sorta new to things - when nV puts out a new GPU, I'm guessing that would be the base version. Then the other manufacturers like Asus, Gigabyte, EVGA, etc later put out different styles of the same GPU? Or do they all come out around the same time?
quick sierra
That's why
Well yeah like I said I haven’t adjusted anything. I know why lol...
green harness
curious, sorta new to things - when nV puts out a new GPU, I'm guessing that wou...
They're all coming out at once as far as I understand
dry pecan
so say the 3080ti, when that one appears, will Asus and the others have a version out as well, or later
ah, cool.
not getting my hopes up but I'd love to snag one lol.
heady turtle
Well yeah like I said I haven’t adjusted anything. I know why lol...
Why not you get more money and less hest
quick sierra
I don’t use my gpus to mine really. Just wanted to see what the 3060 is capable of lol
I have a helium miner
heady turtle
so say the 3080ti, when that one appears, will Asus and the others have a versio...
Yeah they put their own cooling solution on it
heady turtle
I don’t use my gpus to mine really. Just wanted to see what the 3060 is capable ...
3060 or 3060 ti big diff
heady stratus
oof, ETH gas so low
heady turtle
Just wait it'll go 
quick sierra
3060 or 3060 ti big diff
Sorry my bad lol 3060ti**
heady turtle
I see
quick sierra
Ahhh
Anyways I use bobcat helium miner. I don’t use my PCs to mine lol
They can be really profitable depending on your location
Cheaper than a 3000 series gpu as well
cerulean rover
Wat
quick sierra
Wat?
cerulean rover
Cheaper than a 3000 series gpu as well
?
cerulean rover
Eh, would still be above msrp pricing
quick sierra
Takes a while to ship atm, seems everyone is wanting them
quick sierra
Eh, would still be above msrp pricing
Well it’s a dedicated miner so
cerulean rover
Ye, above like msrp 3060ti
heady turtle
Why not mine on gpu as well tho
quick sierra
I have them running
But I have 4 helium miners that do much better
I’m in a hotspot for them
Do some research on it, may find you like them more 👍🏼
cerulean rover
Dedicated miners will be in an interesting position in a few months when eth goes 2.0, we'll see
quick sierra
Hmm interesting
normal hawk
They did mess up however. This had just stuck in my head for some reason
@brisk flame cause you wanted to see
green harness
What did they mess up? Run the 3060 with DLSS on and everything else with it off or something?
brisk flame
this looks, normal?
normal hawk
The 3060 outperforming the 3070 and 3060 Ti at 4k?
brisk flame
thats not what the chart says tho...
normal hawk
That is what the chart says
brisk flame
this?
normal hawk
Those aren't minimums. Look at the 2nd one and then the legend
brisk flame
ahh i see it now
normal hawk
UHD - RTX 3060 = 52
UHD - 3060 ti = 39
UHD - 3070 = 43
heady turtle
Nani?
brisk flame
but yeah, thats obviously a mistake
heady turtle
Wack
normal hawk
I think they used the 8gb textures instead of the 4gb textures as according to comments you can pick which ones you use..?
hot folio
I’m honestly tempted to buy the NZXT Streamer PC
3090/ Ryzen 5 5600x for 3k
Or an HP Omen with a 10700k/3090 for 3.2k
Anyone got any opinions on those 2?
I’m mostly buying them to scrap for parts or throw the full build into a Lian Li Lancool II Mesh
raven thunder
I’m honestly tempted to buy the NZXT Streamer PC
If you got the money to get them, then go for it, from what i know, both are fine, I would go NZXT because of its off the shelf components
the logic is just that, a bad system with a gpu is still better than a good one without one
so if you need the pc right now then go for it
lethal pawn
same
green harness
Responding to something from 2019??
livid idol
Besides that, there's no such thing as zero bottlenecks. There is always something holding back something else. It can even be limitations of the cpu socket or cache speed.
hot folio
That’s the exact message after the one he replied to pretty much
green harness
The best way to have zero bottlenecks is to not have a PC. Change my mind
hot folio
Hate LTT for that
brisk flame
most people dont realize that even the software you run can be the "bottleneck"
yeah, just because minecraft is only using 10% of your cpu and 24% of your GPU doesnt mean theres some "issue"
livid idol
Yep, poorly written game engines (looking at you Bethesda) are frequently problems
brisk flame
any game with a framerate lock
heady turtle
I’m honestly tempted to buy the NZXT Streamer PC
tender mulch
any game with a framerate lock
Genshin unlock FPS when
livid idol
Unlock the fps on skyrim and the whole engine freaks out
hot folio
<:worryFire:418417608816328704>
I’d be throwing it in a Lian Li Lancool II Mesh
So nice and chilly hehe
livid idol
For 3k that's not a bad deal, even if you do have to mod the case or get a new one
Considering a lot of 3090s are retailing over 2k
hot folio
I already have the Lian Li just lying around
heady turtle
I’d be throwing it in a Lian Li Lancool II Mesh
Yeah i saw that afterwards
hot folio
I would replace the mobo with my Crosshair VIII
livid idol
Well sh... What are you waiting for lol
hot folio
And maybe PSU to the HX750 I have
livid idol
750 is not enough for a 3090
hot folio
Well sh... What are you waiting for lol
...paycheck
livid idol
Fair
hot folio
The stock PSU is 750 I think
livid idol
Hell 850 is still going to get protections tripped
hot folio
heady turtle
Really?
hot folio
The HX750 is Platinum rated if that changes anything
heady turtle
Ohh i forgot it was 3090 and mot 3080 nvm
livid idol
That's only efficiency rating
heady turtle
The HX750 is Platinum rated if that changes anything
Nope that's just energy efficiency
hot folio
Ahh ok
dry pecan
1000w should be enough for a 3080 on an i9 11900k right?
livid idol
I have a top of the top tier RM850x and a lower power model 3090
I still manage to trip protections
1000W yeah that's plenty
hot folio
I wonder why NZXT is using a 750 watt then
livid idol
Because that's the nvidia "recommended" spec
hot folio
True, saves them money
livid idol
That doesn't account for massive transient loads
hot folio
I miss my old 1000watt 🥺
heady turtle
1000w should be enough for a 3080 on an i9 11900k right?
Plenty, i would just get a good 850w like enermax revolution df or something as 1000w psus are overpriced atm
livid idol
Depends how far you push the 11900k, I've seen that thing pull 300W
magic wing
11900k is a disappointment...
livid idol
It should never have existed, not in its current form
hot folio
My 1000watt was able to power a 9900k and a dual quadro RTX 5000 setup so I think it’ll be fine
livid idol
RTX 5000? You living in the future?
dry pecan
I'm not looking to do a lot of OCing or anything. This is my first computer build since 2008, THAT'S all I'm looking at right now. It was a case of I'm going big or I'm not going at all lol.
livid idol
These names are too similar I know lol
livid idol
Ah forgot about those
hot folio
When building that build I was debating the dual 8000s
magic wing
Ah forgot about those
They do be kinda forgettable
hot folio
All quadros have their own space in my heart
heady turtle
They are neglected tbh
hot folio
Definitely
Also more and more people are coming to GeForce to do what the quadros are made for
Because they are cheaper and they don’t really need the optimization and ECC on the Quadros
heady turtle
Yeah
dreamy dragonBOT
Exotic#0058 has been warned
quasi flicker
Any have any idea why an RX 550 is suddenly running at 92C under load? It goes to about 33C idle, so I'm not entirely sure what the issue is.
It's an HP version that came in a pre-built from late-2018
heady stratus
Check your fan speeds
heady turtle
Any have any idea why an RX 550 is suddenly running at 92C under load? It goes t...
What's your fan curve
Also idle temps mean zilch
heady stratus
Also idle temps mean zilch
I got my 3090 idle temps down to 25 C, kinda proud of that
heady turtle
I got my 3090 idle temps down to 25 C, kinda proud of that
How lol
quasi flicker
Also idle temps mean zilch
Yes, but no
heady stratus
Drop your room temperature to 70F or less
heady turtle
No they do mean zilch
quasi flicker
Not if it's at 70C idle
heady turtle
You said 33c
quasi flicker
I'm using that as an example
heady turtle
There's no way it would be 70c idle lol
quasi flicker
The 70
quasi flicker
There's no way it would be 70c idle lol
I've seen people with cards that do that
heady turtle
You'd have to live in the Sahara and have just cpu cooler no other fans in case lol
tender mulch
Are the fans actually 0 RPM though or just not reporting?
Also, it's normal for GPU fans to not spin until a certain temp. If they're not spinning at 92C though, might be some software interfering with them. Reboot and see if they spin during the boot process
spare relic
I was playing with speedfan on my gma's old pc, seeing how low rpm and noise I could get the two fans that were controllable
quasi flicker
Are the fans actually 0 RPM though or just not reporting?
Sensors are working
My GPU fans don't spin unless it's above 60C
tender mulch
Below 60C?
quasi flicker
So I know there are some that won't run at certain speeds
spare relic
the case fan stopped reporting rpm at 20% but still spun, stopped spinning at 15%
quasi flicker
But the fan in this always runs on this one
tender mulch
My GPU fans don't spin unless it's above 60C
This is somewhat normal on modern GPU's
quasi flicker
Yeah
tender mulch
GPU software can over ride that though
hot folio
What’s up with all the etsy gpu scam listings?
quasi flicker
The one we're talking about is still an RX 550
heady stratus
What’s up with all the etsy gpu scam listings?
Because it's... etsy?
hot folio
Like who are they fooling posting a 3080/90 for 100-200
quasi flicker
Like who are they fooling posting a 3080/90 for 100-200
People who don't know what they're doing
hot folio
Etsy normally is a decent marketplace
quasi flicker
Like people who buy Chromebooks for gaming
heady stratus
Not really known for being tight on admin takedowns for spam listings
spare relic
don't buy gpus on etsy guys lmao
hot folio
^
heady stratus
I haven't bought pants since 2018, thanks COVID-19
quasi flicker
W i n e
slim vessel
slap braclets
heady turtle
My GPU fans don't spin unless it's above 60C
Usually it's 30 or 50c but you can always change the fan curve manually in msi afterburner or something
