Works just as well
#graphics-cards
tender mulch
sage cypress
Between 5700xt and 3060, which one is better?
Specs include r7 3700x, 16gb 3200 mhz, b550 tomahawk
I mostly play at 1080p for now, but soon will upgrade to 1440p
raven thunder
Lol at this point any gpu is better than none is either one should be fine
spare relic
yes, but one performs better than the other
so, if you want higher performance, get the higher perf one
raven thunder
Exactly but the 3060 has more features doesn’t it?
spare relic
perhaps
raven thunder
Curious tho how the 3060 = 2060 super
It’s one generation ahead and I keep getting the sense that it’s a huge jump
spare relic
3060 isn't very far ahead of its predecessor
raven thunder
But 2060 super was like 1200 st launch wasn’t it
raven thunder
Oh
raven thunder
I got the impression (from nvidias ads) that the 3060 was like a huge jump but I guess not
Oh
spare relic
both amd and nvidia will market their cards as prettily as they can but that doesn't make their products as good as they profess them to be
a 2060 is about the same perf as a 1080
which is really good, the newer 60 sku as good as the previous 80 sku, pretty nice leap
hybrid kettle
oh no, i forgot to buy it while on sale 
tight olive
Hello guys would i expect some RTX 3060ti RTX 3060 drops
limber flax
karmic crag
Works just as well
congrats on getting mod
heady turtle
Yeah congrats vintage
karmic crag
red looks good on you 👍
drowsy kiln
Hello guys would i expect some RTX 3060ti RTX 3060 drops
Best buy should be on the week of May 24th (likely the 27th following their every other week theme)
Newegg Shuffle happens during weekdays 3060/ti are in there quite often
lusty vector
What the difference between ti and normal?
karmic crag
What the difference between ti and normal?
performance
3060ti is a decent bit more powerful than the standard 3060
lusty vector
Is the cost much different as well?
lusty vector
3060ti is a decent bit more powerful than the standard 3060
How so?
drowsy kiln
At MSRP $70
karmic crag
How so?
i think the 3060 ti is about 25% more powerful than the 3060, but don't quote me on that
drowsy kiln
Just look at benchmarks; generally the RTX 3060ti will perform 20-25% better in 1080p and about 10% in 1440p
karmic crag
no problem
spare relic
the performance difference between the 3060 and the 3060 ti is greater than from the 3060 ti to the 3070
so the 3060 ti is a pretty good choice
heady turtle
3060 ti is also rarer than 3060/3070 seems like tho lol
lusty vector
Yeah I saw the benchmarks, it keeps up with those around it
Prolly cause 100 buck difference
No?
heady turtle
I think 3060 ti rarer because perf close to 3070 for 100 less
And mines the same as a 3070 too
spare relic
for an availability standpoint it could be a better option to go for the 3060 if you're not willing to stick to waiting until you get the chance at a ti and you don't want to spend as much as a 3070, or vice versa, a 3070 if you want better perf. than a 3060
¯_(ツ)_/¯
drowsy kiln
The main issue is scalping prices, if you can get either near MSRP doesn't really much matter which one you go for. But I wouldn't spend near $1000 currently if you already have a GTX 970.
raven thunder
Best buy should be on the week of May 24th (likely the 27th following their ever...
dropped quite a bit yesterday in the US i believe
drowsy kiln
970 is a perfectly capable card until prices hopefully drop around Nvidia announces their RTX 4000 series or whatever they call it.
raven thunder
And mines the same as a 3070 too
exactly, it's much easier to get the 3070 cause it's the same as 3070 in terms of mining
drowsy kiln
dropped quite a bit yesterday in the US i believe
Correct; will likely be the 27th cause BestBuy does their drops every other week tho the day may be different.
spare relic
970 is good
lusty vector
How much would the 4000 series cards be?
heady turtle
I think also even just retailer prices, 200$ on top of a 3070 msrp is more of an ehh i guess but 200$ on top of 3060 msrp is a lot more, almost 2x price
heady turtle
How much would the 4000 series cards be?
Noone knows
spare relic
I hope I can enjoy my 970 for a while
heady turtle
Gonna be another 1.5-2 years before they come out anyway
lusty vector
Ooh ok
drowsy kiln
Mhm. Likely similar to RTX 3000 series prices; we will know more in Q2/Q3 of next year
heady turtle
Looks like the 3050 /ti is coming soon tho
Since the laptop varient is out
So that could also be an option especially if at msrp
If you get one at launch 🥵
spare relic
I will watch it not be available for the duration of its lifetime
I wonder what its msrp will be
heady turtle
Imma guess 250 for ti
200 for non ti
Because Nvidia likes making too many products too close together price wise
drowsy kiln
Thought the 3050/ti was gonna be laptop only, maybe I heard wrong
spare relic
probably
heady turtle
Thought the 3050/ti was gonna be laptop only, maybe I heard wrong
Doubt
lusty vector
Because Nvidia likes making too many products too close together price wise
It gives you options tho
Graphic card buying has cycles
spare relic
they set the 1650 super to 200 at retailers on its last leg of relevance
heady turtle
It gives you options tho
Nvidia has 3060 at 330, 3060 ti, 400, 3070 500
They're too crammed
lusty vector
🤷🏼♂️ I don’t mind it
heady turtle
They need to focus on so many diff cards imo
drowsy kiln
Yea. Better to focus on what they already have
heady turtle
🤷🏼♂️ I don’t mind it
The thing is if they only had 4 or 5 they would most likely be better optimized etc
spare relic
those prices aren't that close together
drowsy kiln
$200, $250, $330, $400, $500 is pretty close together
heady turtle
Yea. Better to focus on what they already have
Also the supply constraints atm, if it comes out its gonna have like 1000 units and then never be in stock til next year or something
heady turtle
$200, $250, $330, $400, $500 is pretty close together
Way too close imo, every 100 or 150 is plenty
drowsy kiln
Exactly. RTX 2000 series did that perfectly IMO
spare relic
it's close together for big bucks people 
heady turtle
those prices aren't that close together
If they had the 200 250 etc price stack it would be 50, 80, 70, 100 price jumps
spare relic
they should make the 3050 150 bucks
lusty vector
Total?
spare relic
they won't, and it won't make a difference to the retail price, but it should be
spare relic
😳
heady turtle
Intel gonna come in with the saviour in about 6-8 months for the 200$ cards, that's my hot take
drowsy kiln
True. I keep forgetting about intel being the 3rd contender we always wanted
At least for budget cards
lusty vector
Are they gonna be better than companies we have now?
Cause 200$ cards sound nice but quality might go out the window with that price
drowsy kiln
For the $200 GPU budget price range they are expected to be decent cards; Intel will likely not compete for the higher end where AMD and Nvidia already are.
Granted might be leaks I've missed
heady turtle
Looks like they're punching low to mid range
raven thunder
Looks like the 3050 /ti is coming soon tho
also 3080ti prob
but idk if a 3050ti is gonna cut iit
drowsy kiln
Cause 200$ cards sound nice but quality might go out the window with that price
$230 was the MSRP of a GTX 1660 Super no quality was lost there
lusty vector
True but that’s also nvidia
drowsy kiln
Intel knows what they are doing, they wouldn't release something in the low/mid tier that will not sell
raven thunder
cough cough
heady turtle
also 3080ti prob
Possibly yeah but since 3050 /ti acc showed up in laptops already
heady turtle
but idk if a 3050ti is gonna cut iit
Will for a lot of ppl
raven thunder
ye and might be easy to get on drop day if they finally get it figured out
heady turtle
Funny
raven thunder
LOL
💀
but then again, it's their 100th time of dropping a card so you never know
maybe they have enough defective 3060s to stock the 3050ti
drowsy kiln
Very true; thats a big reason they are going for the 3050tis I would assume.
But before we know it we will have an RTX 3000ti that costs $50
raven thunder
lol
yea, hopefully they drop a significant amount that doesn't make the in stock time in terms of seconds but minutes
although who knows how good they gonnna be
acoustic ginkgo
I have a 3060, but that was because I finally got lucky. It's still gonna be a major jump from the mobile 1060 I've been using since 2016
acoustic ginkgo
People saying it performs like a 2060 Super and I shrug my shoulders. I was gonna buy a 2060 Super last year, before I listened to the advice to wait.]
keen nacelle
Looking to be a nice shuffle today, for anyone looking for a card
tender mulch
keen nacelle
I always enter for the low priced cards, just so if I win I can sell it at the price i get it to someone who'll use it for gaming instead of mining or scalping
unreal seal
I always enter for the low priced cards, just so if I win I can sell it at the p...
Best thing you can do if you already have one. Great cause.
dreamy dragonBOT
TheTrueBacca#2995 has been warned
keen nacelle
I always forget about that
lone pond
You can’t say bad words in this server????
tender mulch
No
split prism
@tender mulch grats on full mod
lone pond
I ain’t read rules
lusty vector
Indeed! https://www.newegg.com/product-shuffle
So you get the chance first to buy the card, yes? If you win?
static palm
keen nacelle
ive entered 30 smthn times now i think
one sec ima count
27
tho i dont enter for everything
mostly 3060s that are under 750, 3060 tis under 850, and 3070s under 1k
solemn panther
not one win?
static zinc
i gave up after 0/10 but i have seen a few winners here
abstract marlin
I was really lucky I got a 3070 for msrp before the shortage became as bad as it is, the price is just so high now
livid idol
I only won after I said screw the budget and entered for everything. I wanted a3080 but ended up with the gigabyte 3090 no one wants. I'm mining the difference in price.
abstract marlin
I have mined with my one 3070 and I have made a good sum of the money back ~300$
livid idol
Yeah it can be pretty profitable like that, more people should try it.
abstract marlin
Yeah but the problem becomes when some people buy like 10000 graphics cards and no one else can get even one
solemn panther
3070 is the it card this time around if you cant get what you want
abstract marlin
Yeah but even they are hard to get
livid idol
Yeah but the problem becomes when some people buy like 10000 graphics cards and ...
Mining farms are a very small part of the larger problem
abstract marlin
Mining farms are a very small part of the larger problem
True but currently miners do take a share of the scarce gaming GPUs
the chip shortage is mainly to blame
livid idol
Yes but a small share. Some reports say as high as 5% of new stock shipped to mining farms, for a total of between 5-10% including small time buyers.
solemn panther
feels more than that sometimes
abstract marlin
Yeah
livid idol
Jay covers the topic well here
https://youtu.be/NOdxB0jvkkQ
winged pendant
I know exactly what the problem is, but I can’t tell you because it breaks rule #5.
livid idol
It goes beyond politics
It's a perfect storm of demand exceeding the possible amount of supply. Even car manufacturers are having to shut down plants and leave things half assembled because they don't have computers to put in them.
winged pendant
Yeah, because politics.... lol
livid idol
No, because the chip manufacturing plants can't make the chips fast enough. The politics of things certainly isn't helping, though.
livid idol
We'll just leave it there for that reason, but it's definitely more than any single factor.
limpid latch
i guess not picked for shuffle this time
green harness
i guess not picked for shuffle this time
Notifications don't start going out for another 5 minutes, and I got my "You've won" email midway through the notification window
So no need to collect the L just yet
ornate dock
Finally got all my other parts, now i just need to go through the roller coaster ride of getting a new GPU in 2022
2021*
limpid latch
oh well prob wont be picked its ok lots n lots of ppl doing it im sure lol
newegg sends an add email though fkers! lol
solemn panther
@limpid latch please no bypassing the filter
lyric plinth
My 1650 super arrived early 
next finch
can an 850w psu run a 3060 and a 3090 at the same time for a few min? not gaming or mining or anything, just testing a card to see if its working (and kinda lazy so i dont wanna take out my 3090)
lyric plinth
No clue dude
olive stratus
m,ust b ruff owning a 3090 and not wanting to take it out due to "laziness"
lyric plinth
My mbd can barely hold one card
next finch
m,ust b ruff owning a 3090 and not wanting to take it out due to "laziness"
its a real struggle
heady turtle
can an 850w psu run a 3060 and a 3090 at the same time for a few min? not gaming...
No 3090 has huge power spikes
lyric plinth
Why would you get a 3060 if you’ve got a 3090 is my question lol
olive stratus
ive put my 39th 3090 to use today thats right 39th!
lyric plinth
You mining or something?
olive stratus
nope
queen moat
I have 2x 3060 and 1x 1080Ti on a 750 watt PSU and it's running fine (for video editing i dont believe in currencies beyond the UNITED STAETS DOLLAR)
lyric plinth
Why u got 39 of them then lmao
heady turtle
Why would you get a 3060 if you’ve got a 3090 is my question lol
Mine i guess
next finch
You mining or something?
nah the 3060 is for a friend in canada. I just wanted to test it prior to sending it to her and make sure all is in order
olive stratus
why would i waste electricity and resources on somthing a EMP can take out one sun burst.... lol
no way
lyric plinth
nah the 3060 is for a friend in canada. I just wanted to test it prior to sendin...
I would pay you double msrp for a 3060 
queen moat
exactly no one should mine in fact i will take your gpus off you for a mild premium if you are scared
next finch
she paid $750 usd for it
olive stratus
no way
queen moat
that's a pretty good deal
heady turtle
nah the 3060 is for a friend in canada. I just wanted to test it prior to sendin...
If it's just a test to see if it shows display that's fine but don't stress them both
lyric plinth
That’s just barely more than what I paid for my 1650 super
queen moat
i grabbed a brand new 5700XT for $650 a couple weeks ago off FB Marketplace
olive stratus
I like the new egg shuffle
next finch
If it's just a test to see if it shows display that's fine but don't stress them...
not even gonna stress test em. I just wanna make sure it powers on and puts out
blissful basin
I like the new egg shuffle
It was designed that way
heady turtle
not even gonna stress test em. I just wanna make sure it powers on and puts out
If you're gonna take it right out again i wouldn't worry 850w will be plenty
next finch
no way
welcome to my life. I spend a lot of time selling and buying tech and sometimes u run across a nice person who is willing to be a bit more reasonable than most
lyric plinth
4gb VRAM gonna be so nice as an upgrade from 2gb
next finch
If you're gonna take it right out again i wouldn't worry 850w will be plenty
great thank u
olive stratus
New egg Shuffle - Gives you HOPE! We need hope in this world
lyric plinth
Now I need to upgrade RAM and storage and my pc is gonna be godly
next finch
i won the shuffle the other day but ti was a waste. MSI 6800 for $1300
and then another $100 of tax and shipping fees and bundled ram on top of that
lyric plinth
Damn
next finch
ya
solemn panther
at least youre proof it works
next finch
yes lol
last hatch
I won the 3060 today also bundled with RAM
solemn panther
congrats (:
lyric plinth
I’m in Canada and can’t take part in shuffle
olive stratus
use a vpn
limpid latch
<@!348618528204652547> please no bypassing the filter
ok
honest halo
Didn’t think they ship to Canada
They don't you gotta ship to a friend
green harness
wierd my cases come from Ontario.... lost of new egg ones do.
Are you thinking Ontario, California by any chance? That's where I have seen stuff from Newegg shipping from at times
next finch
And back to the norm
olive stratus
Need more cow bell
next finch
lol
olive stratus
cant post pics hmm
vital pivot
pliant rover
anyone know where to get a 3070 without having to sell both testicles?
turbid mantle
Well for only ONE KIDNEY this perfectly used 3070 can be YOURS
charred remnant
Hey out of curiosity does anyone know why even without hashrate changing the BTC payout on nicehash seems to vary wildly?
turbid mantle
id be so happy to find another 3090 to complete my SLI build. only have 3 of my 6 monitors working rn 😦
@charred remnant in my limited experience using nicehash, there are few factors that can play into it but the pricing can be affected by a few factors such as the miner being used, the coin your mining and its current price (as your basically renting out your computational power) and then the current price of BTC of a given market. Its worth noting that there isnt no single "fixed" price for BTC
tender mulch
Nicehash is kinda meh for mining. High fees.
turbid mantle
Didnt even think of the fees, thank you!
turbid mantle
Agreed. Ive switched to mining XMR/ETH in my downtime. Im a pretty small scale miner though. Really just looking to offset the hardware costs for my main work machine
tender mulch
I mine on a single 3070 when its not gaming.
next finch
i mine on my 3090 whenever im not actively using my pc
turbid mantle
I mine on my single 3090 and a 5950x. my ideal build will have 2x 3090s for the older titles i play but also for work i love having all 6 monitors running
for multiplle SSH/RDP sessions, my own monitoring system and then Azure stuff, i just need ALL the monitors lol
Id straight up pay 3K CAD for a ASUS TUF 3090 rn
next finch
i got mine for MSRP luckily. paid $1700 for my gigabyte gaming oc
turbid mantle
damn thats awesome, congrats lol
next finch
yea lol. got lucky w newegg back in like octover
turbid mantle
i picked up one ASUS TUF 3090 so far. just looking to complete my build with a super niche SLI build xD
vital pivot
lol
keen cave
solemn panther
@sterile parcel same card i have. gg
vital pivot
I am happy to say I have not won a shuffle in 3 weeks.
Course I have only entered when they had EVGA products.
lusty vector
I mine on my single 3090 and a 5950x. my ideal build will have 2x 3090s for the ...
My dude. You are loaded
mild topaz
Just got chosen for the shuffle but it's the worst combo ever. $2900 for a gigabyte 6900 xt oc and z490 Mobo with a cooler. This is scalped pricing :/
lusty vector
……Yeah…..
heady turtle
Oof
livid idol
Yeah gigabyte is very clearly taking advantage of desperate people. Mine came with a bomb in the box. At least it was a dud. They're sending me replacements until they run out and can't force people to buy any more. That's a promise.
heady turtle
Lmao
sonic zenith
Lmaoo I got chosen for a 3070 yesterday 😂
acoustic basalt
everyone talking about how they are getting 3070s/wanting a 3080 ti or a sli 3090, while im still rocking a 1050ti
charred remnant
Yeah gigabyte is very clearly taking advantage of desperate people. Mine came wi...
Would be great if I could do that to Patriot right now😂, instead they're stonewalling me and saying ryzen is why their ram is garbage
charred remnant
*everyone talking about how they are getting 3070s/wanting a 3080 ti or a sli 30...
I mean I upgraded from a 650 to a 3070 I won off shuffle a month or so ago
tender mulch
Are you on a Beta BIOS by chance?
acoustic basalt
my old choir teacher talked about how he upgraded from a 760 to a 3070
charred remnant
Are you on a Beta BIOS by chance?
I could be? Ik I was on the Msi bios that had a patch for the USB issues
Let me check
livid idol
*everyone talking about how they are getting 3070s/wanting a 3080 ti or a sli 30...
Well I wanted a 3080 but ended up with a crappy 3090
tender mulch
I still think Patriot is blowing smoke
acoustic basalt
lol
charred remnant
Yup beta bios, I'm out of town for the weekend so I'll have to try it Monday but how would I go about a bios rollback? I've never done one before and I went from factory bios to this bios when I needed to update it to use my 5600x
tender mulch
Just put the version of the BIOS you want on there and update it like you normally would through the BIOS menu
what bnoard is it?
livid idol
You'll need to redo your settings too 🥲
charred remnant
You'll need to redo your settings too 🥲
Nearly all my settings were to get the garbage ram to run above base ddr4 speeds so I'm not too concerned
tender mulch
yeah I'd throw this one in there and see what happens 7C91v15
charred remnant
Alright, I'll try that out Monday.
novel mural
where can i get a 3060
quaint lynx
Bro how do I get 3080
heady turtle
Shuffle /lucky best buy drop
Or evga/zotac(i think) queue but gonna be waiting a while
Or ltt verified actual gamers
thin musk
do u think a 1660 super is worth 600 bucks brand new
sacred lotus
hell no
sacred lotus
400 is the most i'd pay for a 1660
thin musk
k
sacred lotus
idk just wait till a 1660 pops back in stock if you really want something right now, if not I'd personally wait
heady turtle
3060 if you're lucky
sacred lotus
your lucky if you get a 3060 for 600 bucks
thin musk
yep
heady turtle
It's doable for 400 or under
thin musk
its sad that everything is like jacked up to twice the price
heady turtle
Just unlikely
sacred lotus
very unlikley
heady turtle
its sad that everything is like jacked up to twice the price
It's just basic economics
heady turtle
It'll do for the moment lol
Keep an eye out on ebay for not scam rx 580 8gbs or 1650 super+ for 250ish 2060 if you're lucky
heady turtle
720? You sure that's real?
livid idol
Says $950 when I click it
heady turtle
Yeah it said like 850€ or something and i was like ehh
tardy pebble
ik prebuilts suck most of the time but i found a prebuilt with a 1650 super and a r5 3500 for 599 should i go for it
tender mulch
Not bad tbh
tardy pebble
8gb of memory and 256 m.2 i can always get another 8gb stick and throw a 2tb hdd
limpid latch
i missed out microcenter randomly had 3070s today.. 2nd time my friend went there to get something and ends up leaving with a gpu..
but was 3070 ventus x3.. very long cards and probably run hotter n louder.. the coolers are not that good on them
charred remnant
Yea weren't the ventus cards very dissapointing? or at least I feel like I read that the 3070's were
solemn panther
I could only add 100 mem on my 3070
Horrible
No no
Typo
Yeah
150 to the clock tho
Could be
I might have done something wrong
Yep
charred remnant
Yea if I recall correctly it had really low power limits and the worst vrm's
on my 3070 ftw3 I think I hit +1400ish on mem? I'm out of town for the weekend so I can't check
Ah yea, and from the piece I looked at evidently even the gaming x trio has the same bad vrm's that are worse than every other brand's card
fossil talon
FE average gang XD
charred remnant
Msi smelled shortage and went "well why not cut corners? they'll buy it anyways"
livid idol
Gaming X was so disappointing after the 2000 series gaming Z was so good
charred remnant
Oh yea wait also was it msi or was it someone else that like made a super subtle tweak to one of their cards and cancelled all preorders because of it?
charred remnant
not evga let me see if i can find the article ik they liked just barely changed one letter in product name with the change
It was MSI🙃
fossil talon
Who ever mines, when are GWEI prices the lowest
charred remnant
To me the whole thing sounded like an excuse to cancel everyone's backorder/preorders
Yes but I think they consolidated once shortage hit hard
ik there is ftw3 and ftw3 ultra, they aren't selling ftw3 non ultra and there was a whole thing with the xc3 where 1 had a metal backplate and another didn't I think idk what they're doing there
same here, what did yours set you back? I got mine through shuffle at $700 I think?
That sounds close to what mine cost with shipping and tax and that's fair, I'm happy my friend ended up buying the $570 3060 TUF I had gotten earlier from me because that was exceedingly overpriced but I needed something when I bought it
also shuffle. but $520 for a 3060 is super steep,
gotta love Asus' pricing
yea like that's not even a markup where they could go "oh the tariff" like that was over half msrp
livid idol
That tuf 3060 is crazy, no way that card needs 3 fans
charred remnant
That tuf 3060 is crazy, no way that card needs 3 fans
They used the same cooler for all 30 series tuf cards, the dimensions on the 3060 are the same as the 3090 if I remember right
it was probably cheaper than needing to set up assembly lines for different coolers
livid idol
Yeah my fully overclocked tuf 3060 never needs more than 55% fan lol
With garbage airflow
charred remnant
clearly thats a sign you need to see how crazy you can get on air cooling with shunt mods and such lol
who needs warranties anyways
livid idol
Mmm, no its power limit is already one of the highest and I do plan to resell it
And sell it local to make sure it goes to someone that genuinely needs it
charred remnant
that's fair, if I didn't feel so morally wrong doing it I probably could have paid for the rest of my pc selling the 3060 I had instead of selling it to a friend for what I paid
Unfortunately I had a conscience
livid idol
Yeah curse our consciences, getting in the way of profit
charred remnant
Part of me is still considering trying to sell me 3070 box to a bot online which while much easier on my conscience feels a lot riskier
keen nacelle
Part of me is still considering trying to sell me 3070 box to a bot online which...
Honestly, botters deserve it, most of them are miners or scalpers and are part of the reason the market sucks
Wait
How didn't i get warned
That didn't happen
charred remnant
That was kinda my thoughts I just don't know if I really want to deal with any of the fallout that could occur or getting my paypal suspended temporarily.
keen nacelle
Fair enough
charred remnant
lol yea no clue I mean I didn't see anything
keen nacelle
With the way ebay works now it links to your bank account
So yeah it might be a little messy
But also with the way bots work as long as you say whay it is in the description you'd be fine I think
charred remnant
Yea I think so I just don't know what all hoops ebay will make me jump through
keen nacelle
Yeah
Lowkey just put it at like an 800 buy now, a bot will grab it before ebay takes it down
charred remnant
Oh I'm not concerned about that end, I'm more worried about dealing with ebay when whoever's bot it is inevitably files a claim
anyways enough talking about the mess of a gpu market time to go watch Rango
livid idol
The old way of ebay with just a PayPal account still works
They don't require you to link your bank account, it just opens more options
lone pond
it is probably
a REAL bad idea
for someone whos never modded to paint a 3060 ti fe
but like
white builddddd 
livid idol
Just remove the shroud and backplate and paint those. Easy.
lone pond
Just remove the shroud and backplate and paint those. Easy.
what do i even paint em with? spray? acrylic?
livid idol
charred remnant
Yea I was gonna say j think Linus hydro dipped a gpu but I can't remember if it went well or not😂
lone pond
Yea I was gonna say j think Linus hydro dipped a gpu but I can't remember if it ...
i do not trust myself AT ALL to dunk ANY part of a gpu in paint
charred remnant
Oh don't get me wrong that was very much not a suggestion
Just that I had seen them do it😂
Should have been a lot more clear about that my bad
lone pond
lmao ur fine
yea im still not completley sure about possibly recoloring a very shiny and nice gpu
silver shouldnt clash that hard
but like
s n o w
charred remnant
In fact of Linus is the only one who's done something that's probably a better indicator it shouldn't be done lol. I mean one thing you could do is put it in as is leave it for a day or two and see what you think
tender mulch
It's not that it shouldn't be done
It's just hydro dipping
It's the fact that it's expensive compared to a can of spray paint
vital pivot
You can hydro dip with spray paint
Fill a 5 gallon bucket with water and spray the color paint you want into it and then slowly put your item into the water slowly.
hollow zephyr
hellp
i think my gpu just died
but i also dont think so
i was just gaming and then it seems to have crashed so i restarted the system
it turned back on
but is no longer reading the second monitor or the current monitors correct refresh rate
i have a 5600xt and just updated its drivers today
now it wont let me open the radeon software because its not reading the card
magic wing
if it turned back on and showing display its alive
magic wing
DDU driver and install the last WHQL one
magic wing
uninstall display drivers
hollow zephyr
this?
magic wing
https://www.guru3d.com/files-details/display-driver-uninstaller-download.html
yes
dont run it in regular
run in safe mode
magic wing
uninstall display drivers
then after this go back to normal mode and install the latese WHQL driver from the amd support page for your card
magic wing
do i install the newest one?
DDU or amd graphics?
ddu yes
amd no
amd you want the WHQL release
hollow zephyr
ddu
magic wing
now boot to safe mode
hollow zephyr
yes
magic wing
ok now boot into safe mode
hollow zephyr
Bruh I'm trying
And it's not wanting to do it
I don't have actual function keys so I have to press fn+f4 and it's not reading my presses for whatever reason @magic wing
magic wing
turn off fast boot
hollow zephyr
Okay
It's not reading it it'll turn off my keyboard in this setting for whatever reason @magic wing
And I don't have another on hand
magic wing
did you turn off fast boot in the bios?
hollow zephyr
I turned it off in the power settings
Lemme try that
I clean and restart? @magic wing
magic wing
I clean and restart? <@!499525349109923844>
yes
hollow zephyr
Now what
magic wing
Stick to WHQL
hollow zephyr
OK thanks
magic wing
dont update to optional updates
hollow zephyr
It said it couldn't install it cause windows had an update
magic wing
update windows then
magic wing
then install the WHQL driver
hollow zephyr
Wait I tried installing them again and it's working now
normal hawk
Shuffle sucks
normal hawk
They won't even do MSRP on the 5950x lol
tender mulch
Mmmmmm
supple socket
can a 2070 super run all modern games at 1080p or 1440p
and minecraft with shaders
vital oriole
yes
supple socket
k
vital oriole
it absolutely could with ease
supple socket
ok good
solemn panther
and minecraft with shaders
Had one. 100%
solemn panther
Highest settings yes
But.....frames will go below 60 at times
Like with SEUS
Depends on what's on screen
supple socket
k
normal hawk
I play Skyrim at 4k 60fps with mods with my 2070 super
Only time i had issues was when i built an army of the undead but that was more due to all the effects on screen lol
supple socket
mmm
flat bridge
manic aspen
which one?
livid idol
At least the one sapphire 6700XT doesn't have a bundle attached and is actually a good price on shuffle
calm magnet
My son and i are attempting to build.his first gaming pc.
We have a ASRock B550 Phantom Gaming 4 ATX AM4 Motherboard
What video is compatible with it that newegg.com currently have?
tender mulch
You mean graphics card?
None are available right now
Nothing good or worth buying anyway
hot folio
Yeah I’d suggest trying your luck with Newegg shuffle, or stalking Best Buy/microcenter drops
calm magnet
Yep. This is the build we've using
https://pcpartpicker.com/guide/TcLrxr/great-amd-gaming-build
hot folio
Also congrats on mod @tender mulch
tender mulch
Thx
hot folio
I’d honestly go for a better PSU, not too sure about Antec ones
tender mulch
Yep. This is the build we've using
https://pcpartpicker.com/guide/TcLrxr/grea...
The build at the bottom?
hot folio
And you don’t really need a 1Tb SSD
tender mulch
the 850 is no good anyway
calm magnet
@tender mulch yes
tender mulch
Bad drive
Mushkin pilot E if you want a good drive
Also, that system is outperformed by a cheaper INtel based system
DO you already have the motherboard?
hot folio
Or go for like a 256 m.2 for windows then a 1-2Tb HDD for everything else
calm magnet
Unfortunately we have everything already except the video graphics card
tender mulch
oh
Well, that's going to be the most difficult patience testing part
because they're all sold out everywhere
Or being scalped at high prices
hot folio
All I can say is good luck
vital pivot
If your in Texas @calm magnet you can always camp out at one of the 2 micro centers there.
calm magnet
Ok thats what i have noticed. I called build engines lol. This is my first attempt and learning process for buidling a gaming pc
Where are the mico centers located in texas
tender mulch
Did you buy that Samsung 850 drive?
vital pivot
Houston and Dallas
calm magnet
Ok. Whats the name of the one in Houston
tender mulch
Ok thats what i have noticed. I called build engines lol. This is my first att...
Did you buy that Samsung 850? If so, return it
It's so slowwwwww
hot folio
And unreliable in some cases
Go for a mushkin pilot E then a decent HDD
Not too sure about the PSU, vintage do you know if it’s any good?
tender mulch
PSU is good
calm magnet
Vintageracer79 no i didn't. We got the Team Group EX2 2.5" 1TB SATA III 3D NAND Internal Solid State Drive (SSD)
vital pivot
@calm magnet it’s called Microcenter
tender mulch
Vintageracer79 no i didn't. We got the Team Group EX2 2.5" 1TB SATA III 3D NAND...
I'd return that one too TBH
calm magnet
Ok thanks Daarken
tender mulch
and get as Crucial MX500 or something
The EX2 gets beaten by regular HDD's in writes
calm magnet
Ok so like the Crucial MX500 1TB 3D NAND SATA 2.5 Inch Internal SSD, up to 560 MB/s
calm magnet
Ok thanks
tender mulch
YW
calm magnet
I'll check out the microcenter in Houston later this week and see what they have
vital pivot
@calm magnet if you are lucky, they might have something in stock
hot folio
Lmao, so i replaced the thermal pads in my artifacting RTX 2070, and its artifacting even more
hot folio
not a big deal, it was already artifacting in the first place
stark breach
Anyone know when gpu prices will go down?
reef kettle
never
spare relic
Maybe you need to lower vram clock or sonething
hybrid kettle
not a big deal, it was already artifacting in the first place
time for mining instead
hybrid kettle
mining rig doesnt need case
hot folio
True
stark breach
How much can you earn from mining?
hybrid kettle
exactly lol
tender mulch
How much can you earn from mining?
Depends on the GPU 5-$15 per day
stark breach
Woah nice
hybrid kettle
Depends on the GPU 5-$15 per day
didnt 3090s make like 30 - 40 at some point
hot folio
Yeah they did
hot folio
How much do you think I could do with my rtx 2070?
livid idol
45 MH/s easy
hybrid kettle
How much do you think I could do with my rtx 2070?
5 bucks
at least in this market
tender mulch
nope
hybrid kettle
nope
livid idol
You can mine monero with your cpu at the same time as gpu lol
hot folio
Monero?
hybrid kettle
https://www.nicehash.com/profitability-calculator/nvidia-rtx-2070/nvidia-rtx-3060-ti looks like about 45 mhs since 3060ti is 60
livid idol
https://www.nicehash.com/profitability-calculator/nvidia-rtx-2070/nvidia-rtx-306...
That's what I said already lol
livid idol
For gpu mining you could have a dual core pentium
hot folio
I mean for monero
livid idol
I think 8000 is the oldest that's still profitable
As a rule of thumb, generally anything from the last 5 years
livid idol
For a beginner, nicehash will automate just about everything
If you're willing to type the scripts yourself, find pools, manage your own wallet, overclock manually, etc, you can get a little more profit
heady turtle
Nicehash and coinbase is v easy ngl
hot folio
Without using the case what should I put the parts into?
tender mulch
Milk crate XD
hot folio
XD
livid idol
Technically you don't need a case, you can just set the motherboard on the box it came in and build it there
hot folio
Thing is the only spare CPU cooler I have right now is a 120mm AIO
Wait nvm I have my broken wriath prism that I’m taking out tomorrow
Nevermind that ain’t compatible
livid idol
A 120mm would work at stock settings
livid idol
Just leave it on its side, don't worry. You've basically got an open air bench at that point.
livid idol
Well it needs to be attached if that's what you mean
heady turtle
There no fan on your rad?
hot folio
I just installed that
heady turtle
Ahh fair
hot folio
Oh I also need some storage lmaoo
hot folio
Ahh yes windows on 8Gb of ram
livid idol
Zip ties
And nicehash has a bootable mining OS, just needs your wallet address programmed in, which you can find in your online dashboard
You can load that from USB and call it good. No HDD required.
heady turtle
Yeah lol it's pretty cool
hot folio
Do I need windows?
flint vigil
no nicehash IS the OS
hot folio
OHH
flint vigil
yh they have the windows program
or a you can download the dedicated OS
which I suppose would be much more efficient and utilise 100% of your resources
hot folio
Dedicated OS will be easier since I can barely see the screen because of the artifacts
hot folio
I know
flint vigil
Unless you mean your actual monitor is cracked?
hot folio
Everything on it works except the vram is finicky
flint vigil
I wanted to say that's the most important part
but all parts are important....
does your pc actually recognise the card?
and if benched...does it show?
hot folio
Yeah it does
It went through unigine heaven perfectly running at about 150-200 fps
Other than the white lines on the screen
flint vigil
hmmm okay then 🤷
if I were you I'd try user benchmark too. not because it's better or anything like that
it usually tells you the gpu as well with some stats. usually we say gpu not found despite the tests going through
hot folio
User benchmark worked but I forgot what it said
Now where do I plug the pump into?
Would it go to CPU fan?
hybrid kettle
Now where do I plug the pump into?
Depending on mobo some have pump header
If not then just plug into pwm header and set speed to 3000 rpm
hot folio
It’s a gigabyte Z170 Gaming K3
There is no PWM header
There is only 3 sys fan headers and 1 cpu fan header
And CPU-OPT
hot folio
I plugged it into the CPU_fan and it worked
livid idol
The fan is supposed to go there...
hybrid kettle
I plugged it into the CPU_fan and it worked
I would plug fan into cpu fan and pump into cpu optional
And set pump to like 2500-3000 rpm or whatever
livid idol
The pump can go on any other header really, as long as it's set to 100%
hot folio
oh ok
idle idol
is Bestbuy gonna drop Graphics Cards tomorrow?
fossil talon
Didn't they drop on thursday
karmic crag
is Bestbuy gonna drop Graphics Cards tomorrow?
very unlikely
they dropped a few days ago
fossil talon
Yea there was a large drop on thursday May 13th
expect next drop to be much later
Biweekly
idle idol
well, my father has like 600$ just to spend onto a Graphics Card.
hopefully I get a RTX 3060 or a 3060 ti
late haven
i recently got two gtx 970’s for sli. I have a micro atx motherboard with two slots for graphics cards. The only problem is that the front panel connectors wont fit if i put the 2nd gpu in. Is there some sort of adapter i could buy to make it slimmer?
spare relic
Why are you using sli
hot folio
@livid idol So I flashed the OS to a USB, what now?
It’s plugged in but nothing is happened
Other than the PC turning on and off
heady turtle
It’s plugged in but nothing is happened
Did you set the boot order in bios
hot folio
I can’t even access the bios
tender mulch
what cpu is in it
hot folio
i7 6700k
tender mulch
Monitor plugged into motherboard or GPU?
hot folio
Nope
tender mulch
Probs why
hot folio
Only one is the USB
hot folio
Rip
tender mulch
how did you make the USB?
tender mulch
But burn an ISO, media creation tool or?
hot folio
I used the tool NiceHash provided
hot folio
Yeah
tender mulch
I think it should still work without a drive although a boot device is one of the requirements
try a different USB port maybe?
hot folio
I tried all of them
hot folio
It’s a used one but I know it worked since it was my old MOBO
I switched the ram slots
The ram layout on this one is weird
tender mulch
That's single channel mode
hot folio
Putting it in 2 and 4 is single channel?
tender mulch
Different colored slots, yes
hot folio
On this mobo the colors are aesthetic
tender mulch
Nope
I checked the manual
Ram should be paired in the same colored slots
IE 2/1 and 4/3
SO ram in the red slots or ram in the black slots
hot folio
Oh ok
Still doesn’t turn on
I mean it turns on but no output
I’ll try the ssd idea
Nevermind, thanks for the help, the system finally recognized the USB
tender mulch
Nice!!!
hot folio
Now if only nice hash would let me start it
tender mulch
-_-
hot folio
I keep getting some local error
tender mulch
That I know absolutely nothing about. I mine with Trex and my own wallet :/
Is your GPU plugged back in and stuff?
tender mulch
If it boots I don't think that's the issue
hot folio
YOU KNOW WHAT MY DUMBASS DID
There was a really old tiny spec of thermal paste under the cpu
Blocking 2 of the pins
hot folio
I found a flow chart in the support page of nice hash and one of the things was if there is no display try reseating the CPU
tender mulch
Good enough
celest dagger
i need help with my wifi card someone pls lol
charred remnant
I just found out my friend has been playing valorant on integrated graphics from a 4th gen intel cpu and says it "runs great, why do you ask if it runs well?"
They were looking to upgrade and asked if they could reuse their graphics card when I noticed they were using intel Uhd graphics (I'm helping them over text so I didn't just pop it open to look)
sharp wadi
i need help with my wifi card someone pls lol
what u need help with
sharp wadi
▶️ 9. No sweepstakes/giveaways, e-begging, trading or selling on this server.
celest dagger
what u need help with
okay so i have a intel ac 9560 wifi card whenever i connect to any wifi the ping spikes up like alot it cannot also connect properly to my 5ghz i have 400mbps internet my family members dont have any problems and solutions?
celest dagger
let me check that out thanks
fervent apex
Stupid question but since Bitcoin is down will the prices of Graphics card finally come down too??
lavish otter
No
magic wing
Stupid question but since Bitcoin is down will the prices of Graphics card final...
Nope
Miners = 5% stock shortage
Not more than that
lavish otter
Bitcoin isn't the biggest driver for buying gpus to mine right now, miners don't play a very big roll in current shortages and car companies gonna smack you if they don't get their car computers. And OEMs will screech if they don't put out enough prebuilts on the markets
fervent apex
Miners = 5% stock shortage
Good to know. Well I hope they come down
Thanks for the info?
lavish otter
Thanks for the info?
I was trying to inject a bit of humor into the fact that everyone is currently fighting over the same silicon chips. Obviously I failed
fervent apex
I was trying to inject a bit of humor into the fact that everyone is currently f...
OK. It is cool.
tame spire
Is it possible to fix a bios bricked gpu?
magic wing
Is it possible to fix a bios bricked gpu?
You need another gpu to output video and then reflash it
You could use integrated if ur on intel
tame spire
You need another gpu to output video and then reflash it
I guess this radeon rx 5700 is worth it then for $130
cerulean sinew
Will nvidia graphics card be available till summer?
late haven
is the 780 ti still good?
karmic crag
no
karmic crag
is the 780 ti still good?
i wouldn't recommend it, you're probably not getting it for a good price
late haven
alr
heady turtle
Don't buy anything under gtx 960 really
normal hawk
Gt 1030 (. ❛ ᴗ ❛.)
fallow vortex
i have a gt 1030 and i can say that its pretty good, i mean i get like 80 frames on mc so pretty worth it
halcyon plover
sonic vigil
anyone have any advice on how best to be on top of a 3080ti launch?
lone pond
tender mulch
Wait until it's actually announced for the drop and who will be carrying them and where it will be sold XD
sonic vigil
It's likely to drop in the next few days, and I don't want to miss it, but I've never, ever, bought a card near launch and don't know how to be on top of that
sonic vigil
ugh so many push backs... and it seems in general there are less cards selling -- or they're effectively cutting off scalpers -- the last two months
ebay sales have gone down significantly -- which is one of the few things I can actually see data for
I just want a video card... I've not had one now for 10 months
green harness
People keep asking about cards that haven't even been officially announced yet smh
sonic vigil
Again, I'm trying to make sure I know HOW to get on top of announcements and launches, not that anyone gave any advice on that. I don't want to miss out but I've never done this before.
tender mulch
It will be posted here, trust
Right now there's no date
no announcement
No word on who will sell it or where
sonic vigil
Do they like announce that there will be an announcement?
green harness
Sometimes sure
tender mulch
I mean, we'll be talking about it here
green harness
First you can expect Nvidia to announce any new GPUs
tender mulch
a lot lol
sonic vigil
I've never had reason to care before because I've always had a video card, but I have none, and it's frustrating
green harness
Once Nvidia announces a new line of GPUs you can check out any information from AIBs (EVGA, Asus, Gigabyte, etc) and retailers re: new models and how they'll be selling them
sonic vigil
ok
tender mulch
Trust me, we'll be talking about it here and probably pinning links
green harness
I just find it funny. Someone on another server was asking if a specific waterblock would fit on a 3080Ti 😆
sonic vigil
I had hoped that AMD's releases would lower the pressure on the 3000 cards -- and I'm sure it did, but not nearly enough
...... that's dumb
tender mulch
The issue is that all of AMD's stock is going into consoles
They are even worse stock levels than nVidia
sonic vigil
Ah, okay, so not nearly as many cards as there could have been
tender mulch
Nope
green harness
...... that's dumb
Yep. Your question is pretty reasonable. Theirs was nutty
sonic vigil
I mean if the layout is similar to the 3080 or 3090 then the block for that likely will, but if not, then a new block needs to be designed
and are blocks even compatible between companies? I assume most make the cards off-reference
tender mulch
SOmetimes they are, sometimes they aren't
the 3000 series is especially messy because most didn't follow reference
Not even the FE cards are reference design
late haven
The front panel connectors are blocking my gpu from being put in. Is there some sort of solution to this?
tender mulch
Not really, this is the downside of mATX boards. Does the GPU hit the pins without the wires on them?
late haven
no
its fine without the wires
but the problem is that i wont be able to turn on my pc
tender mulch
Are you mining with this GPU or?
late haven
no
tender mulch
Why do you need a second one then?
late haven
sli
tender mulch
Oh
normal hawk
Sli is dead
tender mulch
I don't know of any right angle front panel connectors
Might have to do something custom
late haven
Sli is dead
im using two strix gtx 970’s which i got for dirt cheap. They’re supposed to perform equivalent to the 1070
tender mulch
Mmmmm
normal hawk
Most modern games don't support SLI, I'd check to see if the ones you play do
late haven
dang
well the 980 ti’s are above $400 during the shortage and i got the 970’s for $360 total
i still think i got a good deal
alr
tender mulch
Ya, I just don't know of any front panel right angle connectors
late haven
i’ll just get a new motherboard
tender mulch
Might be able to use the connector and bend the wires down?
Or bend the pins a bit?
sonic vigil
lol because of the shortage and not having a card to game I have gotten back into minecraft. Joined the discord today only to discover they do not even allow people to talk about multiplayer. That seems so silly.
Who, vintage?
he be very angry and red now
Hopefully he doesn't explode 😄
Wait.... what just happened to them? Now it looks like I'm talking to myself 😄
normal hawk
Lol
static flower
Is the 1660 super discontinued?
drowsy kiln
Yes
drowsy kiln
Everything is out of production other than 30 series
tender mulch
IDK, manus are still shipping PC's with those cards
nVidia restarted production for those and 2060's but only for builders like Dell and HP
Or released more old stock or something
static flower
Will they ever go back into production after the shortage or is it dead now
tender mulch
There was an article about it but I can't remember where. Tomshardware maybe?
drowsy kiln
They likely will not
static flower
Im buliding my first pc right now and im trying to stay disciplined to my budget, but nothing is dropping here in canada so i will probably have to go with a 3060(ti)
drowsy kiln
Yea you have to look used for older cards
hybrid kettle
Im buliding my first pc right now and im trying to stay disciplined to my budget...
3060ti founders in Canada is prob what you should for
tender mulch
~10% difference
reef kettle
What is a good price to performance gpu for a $700 build?
tender mulch
I mean, even the most basic GPU's are going for $300-400 now
runic crypt
I'm aiming to find a 3060 Ti for the retail price. Is this going to be difficult?
tender mulch
Anything 700-800
if I were you I'd grab this prebuilt before the sale is over https://www.hp.com/us-en/shop/pdp/hp-pavilion-gaming-desktop-tg01-1070m-3g825av-1?jumpid=ma_hp-gaming_product-tile_desktops_14_3g825av-1_hp-pavilion-gaming-d
runic crypt
It's $400 with the shortage, right?
reef kettle
if I were you I'd grab this prebuilt before the sale is over https://www.hp.com/...
ty
tender mulch
Best Buy only Founders Edition
tender mulch
It's $400 with the shortage, right?
Your only choice is Best Buy Founders Edition
ALl the rest are $500+
runic crypt
I'm asking a friend to help me with this, because he's trying to buy a few and resell them for their current value.
Also, I only have cash.
But to invest in that, I mostly work on art, whether physical or digital.
Mostly with people I know personally.
sharp wadi
if I were you I'd grab this prebuilt before the sale is over https://www.hp.com/...
does that have a 2060 super or 1660 super
runic crypt
Sorry for the tangent, though.
sharp wadi
it says 2 different graphics
heady turtle
does that have a 2060 super or 1660 super
1660 super
sharp wadi
why does it say 2060 super then
heady turtle
I assume its an upgrade
lethal pawn
300$ budget
spice violet
is it good?
gray laurel
hello there! anyone got an idea on when the gpu prices are going to be going down?
lethal pawn
hello there! anyone got an idea on when the gpu prices are going to be going dow...
as long as scalpers and cryptocurrencies exist, no time soon
but we do have a bit of hope ig
silent ibex
HP has the cheapest 3060 prebuilt at about $1200 US
