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tender mulch
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Ehhhhh

green harness
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Taking off a cooler shouldn't void the warranty but you should check Nvidia's terms

tender mulch
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BB is just as expensive as everyone else except FE cards

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FE cards are Tariff exempt

limpid latch
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lol oh i know evga doesnt care i traded cards with a friend and hes killed 2x 3090 ftw3

green harness
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BB seems a touch cheaper than Newegg, plus no bundles

limpid latch
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and have rma for another in works

tender mulch
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IDK, the cards today are the same price as BB

limpid latch
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bb has decent prices.. fe still msrp

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asus and other aib cards went up.. evga is 2nd lowest prices

elfin moth
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I am cool with bundles if its actually something I need in the bundle lol

limpid latch
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well initially you could return other item, but of course they changed that

green harness
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Like a $300 motherboard or $400+ monitor

elfin moth
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I mean I'm building from scratch so like the one 3060 with a 650W PSU

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I am alright with that one

limpid latch
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your building a new build

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go to microcenter then

elfin moth
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None near me

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closest one like 4 hours

limpid latch
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well id take a day trip.. they hold gpus for in house quick builds

elfin moth
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hmm

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Thank you

limpid latch
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atleast ones by me do it in illinois

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just talk to a person in byo department say your doing a build in store its like 150 fee(if air 250 for aio i believe) for putting together, u need psu, cpu, cooler, ram, motherboard, u can bring your own storage and case if wanted

elfin moth
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Dang

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That is certainly worth a day trip

limpid latch
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they held cpu's for that too hah

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sucks u cant call to ask whats there for builds.. plus they have prebuilts they makeup as well

elfin moth
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Smart move by them lol free 150 just for holding them for byo

limpid latch
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of course, greedy of them

green harness
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Well they do have to put in the labor to assemble the builds

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It's not really free. I'm sure they profit off of it ofc

limpid latch
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yes, plus sales ppl get commission

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they only get like 4 bucks an hour

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warranty and % of sale they get

elfin moth
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Oh wow

limpid latch
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well if they get pc builds it helps alot

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cause your dropping alot of money at once soo

elfin moth
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True true

limpid latch
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that shuffle is meh tho.. only 3070 and amd cards

heady turtle
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3070 is great card lol

limpid latch
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not those brands tho

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ventus terrible cooler, eagle is bottom of stack- zotac worst of course

vital oriole
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Can't choose otherwise

limpid latch
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yea i know

heady turtle
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Better than no card lol

limpid latch
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true

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imagine the ppl with new amd cpu's cant use their pc unless they got a cheap gpu

heady turtle
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Yep

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Another great reason to choose 11400 over 5600x lol

limpid latch
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the 11400 is pretty good vs it

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i went 10900k 1.32v 5.1ghz rather 10 cores than 11900k 8 cores

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those online games make a huge difference with cores.. like division and such

heady turtle
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Yeah the 11900k is too expensive for 8c anyway

limpid latch
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i can do 5.2 1.355 but i dont like my temps over 60c gaming

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benchmarking but gaming not worth the extra temps.. i may see what 5ghz lowest voltage i can get

heady turtle
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Those temps seem fine to me tbh

limpid latch
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cyberpunk max settings 55-low 60s cpu, gpu is like 49-53c

heady turtle
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Those are perfectly low tempe lol

vital oriole
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Some people just likes hella low temps, which is good but hinders the best potential sometimes

green harness
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60c is really not bad at all under load

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It's pretty great actually

limpid latch
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i know im just snooty on temps lol

tender mulch
normal hawk
limpid latch
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3070 gaming oc is the best one on that list

normal hawk
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I gotta remember my roots

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My first GeForce Card

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Still have it somewhere probably.

limpid latch
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7900gtx sli 8800gtx sli evga 470, 780ti, 980ti sli, 1080ti, 3090

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voodoo 2 3000

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there was a amd gpu too id have to look on 3dmark

normal hawk
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Dunno what i had on the Compaq my parents bought us. But GTX 560, GTX 1050 4gb(laptop), RTX 2060, RTX 2070 Super, And i have a 580 8gb and a 5700xt but those aren't in any of my PC's currently.

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Oh i also have a 1050 ti that my friend gave me when they were upgrading, a gt 710 from a prebuilt and a 1660 super that my brother is using

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And then cough cough i bought a prebuilt with a 3080 and it's one of the Zotac ones. Trinity Black OC i think.

green harness
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I think my first gpu was like a gt 6600 or 6800

limpid latch
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amd hd 2900xt i used that on a 2nd pc while back

rigid urchin
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Hmm best bet to get gpu in US BB you think?

limpid latch
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or microcenter

rigid urchin
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In store though yes? For micro

limpid latch
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yea

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as weather gets nicer more ppl will camp outside

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and esp 3080ti launch

rigid urchin
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Not camping for a gpu :)

limpid latch
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i mean maybe 4 to 6 hrs before they open

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that newegg shuffle w/ a motherboard hah.. 955.98 idk hmm

vital oriole
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Microcenter wouldn't have it better rn tbh

limpid latch
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its random at microcenter yesterday morning there was 3070 and 3060 supposidly at westmont

rigid urchin
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For bb just putting items on your saved list? That the only strat?

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Quasi regretting not pulling trigger on 6900xt for 2500$

tender mulch
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Wait for drop, get signed in. Click the Add to cart button the first time. DO NOT REFRESH OR DO ANYTHING AFTER YOU CLICK! Then wait for it to turn yellow again and check out as fast as you can

rigid urchin
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Any strategy for when the drop happens or totally random

tender mulch
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Toptally random now

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It used to be regular then they changed it up

zenith lagoon
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@tender mulch Can you help me out rq

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Just updated my GPU drivers.

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5700xt

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Aorus

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The GPU won't output any signal now..

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Tried to delete drivers.

tender mulch
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Not even in the BIOS?

zenith lagoon
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I didn't check the BIOS.

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Il check that.

tender mulch
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No, does the GPU display output in the BIOS?

zenith lagoon
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When I plug the HDMI into the GPU.

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Nothing shows up

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Not even starting logo

tender mulch
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Do you have a VR headset

zenith lagoon
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Nope

tender mulch
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onboard video from the CPU?

zenith lagoon
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Yes

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9900k so yes.

tender mulch
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P;lug into that and see if you get an image

zenith lagoon
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I do

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I'm using it now.

tender mulch
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If so, set PCI-E to default video device

zenith lagoon
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Works normally.

zenith lagoon
hot folio
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If I replaced the thermal pads on an eagle OC 3070 would it help with the cooling?

tender mulch
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With cooling what, the GPU core?

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That's paste, what's getting hot?

hot folio
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The VRAM

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I don’t have the card yet but from a bit of research it seems as if the thermal pads on gigabyte cards suck

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Also is 900 overpriced for a 6700xt?

green harness
tender mulch
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I mean

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BB, Newegg and Microcenter are all priced at that

green harness
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They are for AIB models, but that's a lot imo for what you're getting.

tender mulch
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Oh I agree 100%

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It's just the going rate now :/

green harness
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Unless you can luck out with amd direct buy ofc

hot folio
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My local microcenter has a bunch going for that price

drowsy kiln
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I've got two cards EVGA GTX 970 SSC and SC.

Question, is it normal that the SC would work when paired with an FX-8350 and AM3+ motherboard, and in the exact same hardware config the SSC does not. But when I pair the SSC with a Ryzen 5 1600-AF and B450 board it works perfectly fine.

spare relic
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¯\_(ツ)_/¯

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If something works then it works

zenith lagoon
tender mulch
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Leave GPU in

zenith lagoon
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Ok

tender mulch
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just change bios setting

zenith lagoon
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Alright

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I took it out before

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Il put it in now.

drowsy kiln
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Not even just CPUs motherboards as well. Tried two different motherboards and three different cpus.

spare relic
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My Asus OEM 970 works in an MSI AM3 board

drowsy kiln
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Yea. Tried it with an AsRock 970 Extreme 3 and GIGABYTE GA-990FXA with FX-4300/6350/8350.

zenith lagoon
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Its plugged straight into mobo

drowsy kiln
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Whatever. Card is at least functional compared to having some electrical issue that I'm not about to try and fix.

zenith lagoon
tender mulch
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With the GPU in

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Plug the HDMI into the GPU

zenith lagoon
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Gpu lights are on.

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Ok and now it woks..

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Works

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I didnt even change anything

tender mulch
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PC be funny that way

zenith lagoon
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Yeap

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I wont install latest drivers again...

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Or should I try it again

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Lol

vast saddle
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Is it worth to $350 to step up from 3060 xc gaming to 3070 ftw3 ultra gaming?

vital oriole
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meh, nope

tender mulch
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I mean

hot folio
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Personally, I would

tender mulch
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50% performance increase for $350

hot folio
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If you want solid 1440p performance then go for it

tender mulch
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I'd do it, 3060 is a meh card especially if you're going for 1440p

vast saddle
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Im already struggling at 1440p with 3060 so i think it would be worth

tender mulch
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for 1080p I wouldn't

vital oriole
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ah

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1440p

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yeah, go on ahead

vast saddle
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Alright

tender mulch
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No buying or selling here

vast saddle
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??

tender mulch
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Not you, they'll know who they are. 😉

heady turtle
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https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/124693286790 this should be a criminal offence, a 780 for like 200€

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Wth

static zinc
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I just saw a used 1080 non-ti for $1500 locally

heady turtle
drowsy kiln
heady turtle
winged pendant
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Lmao

drowsy kiln
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$1000

winged pendant
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Even come with a mouse key board and RGB fans. Shut up and take my money 😂

supple socket
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no...thats not that good

heady turtle
drowsy kiln
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He's clearly joking thats a horrible deal. iGPU for $100 idc what iGPU

supple socket
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ok good

heady turtle
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A520 board too

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Utter 💩

drowsy kiln
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Yea. Not even B series

dreamy dragonBOT
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Floki#4548 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

heady turtle
supple socket
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he sweared at me

drowsy kiln
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Exactly. Literally the cheapest parts he could find and charges a $600 build fee or something

heady turtle
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Bet it's a sata m.2 even tho they say nvme

vital pivot
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@vast saddle do you have the option to step up to a 3080?

spare relic
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Blue 3d

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What a waste of blue 3ds they should all be 2.5" 😩

vast saddle
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And the evga tax is pretty big

idle cliff
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Does anyone know a vertical gpu mount that wont sag with a 3090 fe and will work with a O11-D

heady turtle
idle cliff
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wait nvm

sonic vigil
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Another day, another no video card 😄

hollow dawn
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Yo lmao

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A couple weeks ago

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I sold a new pc with a rx radeon 570 4gb

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1 week later the dude was selling the pc without the 570 4gb NotLikeThis

sonic vigil
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what's that, half a decade old?

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lol what?

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Crazy 😄

hollow dawn
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He scalped the freaking graphics card

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And was selling the pc without it for a cheap price

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What a dummy

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Way cheaper

sonic vigil
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This is why I tell people this isn't about new video cards, there's a shortage on all of em

tepid cliff
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I have the rx 570 4gb and it runs most games perfectly fine

sonic vigil
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Video card prices have gone over MSRP for most used cards going back to like atleast 2013

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that's CRAZY

hollow dawn
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I was going to buy it back again and resell my own build for the double of price

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But nah he will learn his leason on it’s own

sonic vigil
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I just want a 3080.... but right now I'll settle for a freaking 3060

hollow dawn
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I just want my 2060 super in my hands

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It’s still in Texas

sonic vigil
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I hope it's really coming

loud flame
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i have a 2060 im fine with it

sonic vigil
hollow dawn
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It is coming

sonic vigil
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I have an intel iGPU

hollow dawn
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I called them

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And it’s confirmed

sonic vigil
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I can play minecraft

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just not with shaders

hollow dawn
sonic vigil
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30 2080 ti cyberpunk?

hollow dawn
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If I sell my body

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Ye

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LMAO

sonic vigil
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lol

hollow dawn
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I don’t have a soul to sell anymore

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Nah

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Is not

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Not my body but

sonic vigil
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Someone elses body?

hollow dawn
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Someone else body

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Yeah

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HAHAHHAHA

sonic vigil
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lol

hollow dawn
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What about my neighbors cat

sonic vigil
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you might get two 3090 for a jeff bezos ransom.... assuming you can get 100 mil

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I know... I know.... hoping to get 2 3090s for less than 100 mil might be overly optimistic

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lucky me has no car anymore

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I spent 3 years travelling, so sold my car

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Yeah... consumers are idiots

hot folio
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Reminds me a lot of when sandy happened

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At least gas wise

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I completely forgot that happened

sonic vigil
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lol right? It's not like they were going to shut down grocery stores

hot folio
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And out of all things, toilet paper?!

supple socket
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like why

hot folio
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People are stupid

sonic vigil
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Toilet paper wasn't going anywhere, until people started buying it all

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if you run out of TP.... wash it

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Your ass, not the used TP

supple socket
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ok

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ok

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ok

hot folio
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Jk

sonic vigil
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Indeed, TP doesn't do a particularly good job

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LOL

hot folio
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I wish bidets were standard in all homes

sonic vigil
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last year you could have made a fortune selling laundred TP

hot folio
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I should’ve taken advantage of it

sonic vigil
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They are in a lot of countries... just not NA

hot folio
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Yeah I know, I’m from Poland and been to almost everywhere in Europe and bidets are really popular in homes there

sonic vigil
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crazy jappanese toilets should be standard 😄

hot folio
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Who needs an ass? Amiright?

sonic vigil
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My wife

hot folio
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Those things have crazy water pressure

sonic vigil
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lol

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that's when you insure it and burn it 😮

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I got a good lul outta that

vital pivot
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I didn’t experience a 🧻 shortage. The wife stocked up the day before people went stupid.

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As for gas. I live were we got hit by 2 hurricanes last year. So I rotate through 100 gallons of gas all year long.

livid idol
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TP wasn't an issue for me either. I bought a pack before people went crazy and it lasted until I was able to buy another pack by going to the store early.

grand pivot
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you guys amped for ampere?

hollow dawn
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750 ti 2gb still good for budget

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Over 60fps

heady turtle
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Ehhh

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Not 1080p lol

drowsy kiln
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Depends what your getting it for, it's a decent card for 720p tho

charred remnant
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Hey I'll have you know csgo ran at a nice 24-30 fps on my GTX 650 at 900p do you mean to tell me that is not the ideal gaming experience?

drowsy kiln
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No. No that is usually not considered ideal lol

heady turtle
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Ran better on my 8 year old i3 laptop

hollow dawn
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LOL

drowsy kiln
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Yea. Likely could get my i3 5010U laptop to do better than that

hollow dawn
charred remnant
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I'll have you know I probably overpaid when I bought that gpu for $50 new like 4 years after it launched

heady turtle
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Igpu best temporary gpu lol

heady turtle
charred remnant
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Now I'm just playing the can my 3600mhz ram actually run at 3600mhz game with my new pc lol. Patriot support was like "Just run 1.45V through it"

hollow dawn
heady turtle
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Lol

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Doubt patriot is running b die ram

drowsy kiln
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But Minecraft and League can both be ran off of iGPU

heady turtle
hollow dawn
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And I get 60fps with high quality on RL

charred remnant
hollow dawn
heady turtle
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3600cl18 is def not b die

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C die mb

charred remnant
# heady turtle Oof

I think it's C but it only registers as Samsung in Thaiphoon and people have speculated it's C but I can't find confirmation

heady turtle
charred remnant
drowsy kiln
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Just took a look around; GTX 750tis usually go for about $80, not horrible performance but then again when I easily found some R9 280x cards listed for $50 I'd go for the R9 280x any day of the week should be at least 50% better of a card iirc.

heady turtle
charred remnant
heady turtle
drowsy kiln
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Yea. GTX 750ti is just more well known than an R9 280x would be

charred remnant
# heady turtle Good luck

Yea surprisingly it seems to be working it's just very odd that it seems to be liking the 1.45v. I emailed back to the support rep I've been talking to and asked if 1.45V is in fact safe but I would imagine if the rep directly told me to do it, it would be. Or patriot support is dumb🤷‍♂️ that's easily possible too

heady turtle
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to make sure you dont crash under load

charred remnant
heady turtle
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good luck

charred remnant
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Thanks

jagged sequoia
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There’s also memtest86

charred remnant
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Yea my next few hours are all probably going to be watching tv while I run memory tests

raven thunder
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is this Radeon RX 6900 XT Gaming OC 16GB PCI-E w/ Dual HDMI, Dual DP worth 2000 cad

drowsy kiln
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MSRP was about C$1200 so... is it worth the extra C$800 to you?

raven thunder
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prob not....

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it's in stock at memory express rn if anyone wants it

jagged sequoia
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When I oc’d my memory I did it right before bed and ran memtest overnight lol

drowsy kiln
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Yea. To some people it would be worth the extra C$800, but for that price might as well pick up a scalped RTX 3080. Gives you similar performance to the 6900-XT with added benefits like RT and Nvenc encoders.

raven thunder
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they actually sold a couple of those today

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dropped three times

drowsy kiln
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Yea. If you have the money for the card go for it not gonna judge.

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But I could justify spending near double MSRP on a RX 6900-XT, granted my system costed me US$550 so bit of a price gap there.

raven thunder
drowsy kiln
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Yea. Prices should drop mid-late next year hopefully just around the time Nvidia announces 4000 series I'd expect.

stiff moss
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Hey uh guys

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I have an issue

heady turtle
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What's up?

stiff moss
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My gpu light is on

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I have a 1080

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And I don’t think it’s working

static zinc
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gpu light on what

limpid latch
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so anyone get a gpu today with shuffle then

winged pendant
stiff moss
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fixed it lol

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My gpu wasnt working

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but it wasnt connected to the psu lol

hollow dawn
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Lol

charred remnant
heady turtle
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Wait 3333cl16?

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That's a weird interval I've never heard of

charred remnant
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CL18 I think

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And it's me manually going down the list of frequencies and manually changing them

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Just incrementally went down the list I had in my bios to chose from until something didn't crash

heady turtle
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Fair enough

charred remnant
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Annoyed I can't get it to run at 3600mhz though. But the way patriot support is acting doesn't sound like they want to replace the kit so my only other option is to sell the kit (hopefully to someone with an Intel system that it might actually work for) and then go buy Crucial ballistix and be out the difference

heady turtle
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I'd just do 3200 or 3333 tbh if you can get cl16 stable

charred remnant
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That's the goal, I'm also just real tired of running memory tests😂

heady turtle
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I'd say so

charred remnant
bitter totem
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im selling a 2070super for $300

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let me know if any of you are interested

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o shi my bad

gray shard
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Hey can someone point me in the right direction for purchasing the correct hardware. I recently purchased 3 - 3060's and now I need everything else👀

tender mulch
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Right now it's more like if you see GPU at MSRP from not a store it's a scam L/

gray shard
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yea

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bad?

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well i bought two, supposed to buy 1 more in a few hours

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so you can't stack them?

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well that's not very encouraging...

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thnx

gray shard
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Hey Rommy. No, i'm not trolling i'm actually just a complete noob. I found a few videos on youtube that seem to be helpful but now i'm concerned about the limiter and thinking that's obviously why I was able to get 3 of these GPU's. My question is will I be able to use the driver that hacks the limiter since the new limiter that is supposed to be "unhackable" is going to be on the 3060's shipped mid may and after.

tender mulch
frigid jacinth
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I just found an alright deal for a 3070 on ebay

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Its a PNY so I don't know if its bad because of that

tender mulch
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PNY is ok, cooler is mediocre and they don't overclock well is all

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But they work

lone pond
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is my gpu still brand new if i only used it like twice ?

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and pulled it out and put it back in the box

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like i only used it for two days i mean

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can i still call it "brand new"

spare relic
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Nah it's parts only at this point

heady stratus
lone pond
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eh

weak cape
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How much could I sell a 2gb EVGA 1050 and a 8GB XFX 850 for considering the high demand?

tender mulch
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Not with a GPU on Ebay XD

heady stratus
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Meh

tender mulch
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My GPU sold for $150 over mSRP and it was 2 years old

lone pond
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should i jus sell my 1650 for 420 cad ?

spare relic
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I wonder if I could sell my 970 for 250 probably

lone pond
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someones tryna buy it

weak cape
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So what like around 250 for the 1050 and 450-500 for the 580?

tender mulch
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Check Ebay for sold listings

weak cape
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Probably less for the 1050 tbh

tender mulch
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Or just put it as an auction

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And let it rip

weak cape
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Yeah I was assuming auctioning it would just be best but I wanted to see how much others thought I could throw it out at

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Might just sell the 1050 and hunt for a 3080 till I get one, then sell the 580 to cover the rest of the cost

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3080 at MSRP*

lone pond
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what kind of 580 you got

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4gb or 8gb

weak cape
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XFX 8GB

lone pond
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how much do u think i can get away with for a 580 4gb

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if i sold it in canada

tender mulch
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Check Ebay sold listings

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Easiest way

lone pond
weak cape
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Uh not sure, cause the 4GB is probably worse than a 1650s cause of the equal VRAM

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so most people will go 1650s > 580 4GB

lone pond
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does it matter if the ram is ddr5 or ddr6

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vram*

tender mulch
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mo fasta mo betta

lone pond
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ic ic

tender mulch
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GDDR6 is only in newer cards tho

weak cape
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Aren’t all the 580s GDDR5

tender mulch
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Ye

weak cape
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Cause 580 is like 2017 lol

deft scroll
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Okay yall. is there a 3080 that I SHOULDNT try to get? Or are pretty much any of them worth it?

spare relic
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Corn Electronics

deft scroll
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.. thats a thing? XD

spare relic
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Idk

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I feel like the GPUs under that brand name were only ever fake 1050s/750s/1060s

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Maybe I'm remembering wrong

tender mulch
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Corn is an overpriced newegg third party seller

fierce valve
spare relic
clever light
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debating on grabbing a 6700 xt for 800 brainlet

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specifically an xfx circ model and im unsure if its worth

elfin parrot
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can I have a crytpo wallet if Im 17? if so which one?

rose wasp
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When will Newegg rtx 3080 be back in stock?(ship to India) haven't gotten my hands on 1 since the release.

magic wing
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a few shops still have it where I live

livid idol
# elfin parrot can I have a crytpo wallet if Im 17? if so which one?

You used to be able to get a coinbase account at 13, but they changed that to 18.
There's not really any "technically legal" way for minors to trade crypto right now, but there's a few with lax verification methods you could lie your way into. I don't suggest doing that for obvious reasons.

heady turtle
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You could always ask to use a parents/sibling of legal ages account

elfin parrot
rose wasp
livid idol
# elfin parrot So I can’t get the money I made deposited I to my account with atomic?

Technically, no. Most countries are restricting this due to the value of crypto currency. A single bitcoin is what, $58k right now?
There are a few places that don't ask for verification unless you're doing a transfer that needs to be reported to the government.
I won't suggest breaking the rules like this for legal reasons, but you can always do what patokav said or figure out another way around the rules.

elfin parrot
drowsy kiln
livid idol
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Permission doesn't work any more. It's being regulated like stock. You can own it, just not trade it as a minor.

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Mining it is fine, they can't prove you're the one using the computer.

heady turtle
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Yeah you can mine to a cold wallet to your hearts content even if you're 7 XD

halcyon plover
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You just cant sell it to your bank account

heady turtle
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A lot of places don't support that yet afaik but guess it's worth a shot yeah

hot folio
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One of those bundles in the shuffle today is just weird, not bad, just weird

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An RTX 3070 going with a 1080p monitor

heady turtle
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Ehh i mean if it's 24" 1080p is still good

hot folio
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Yeah but with a 3070 ideally id want a 1440p

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4K even

lone pond
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anyone have rtx?

heady turtle
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What lol 4k is too expensive

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Yes I've a 3070

lone pond
heady turtle
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Do i have what

lone pond
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dain app, its used to increase the fps of a video, need it for an amv

livid idol
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That sounds very niche

heady turtle
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What even is an amv lol

lone pond
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OMG any weebs here?

hot folio
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I think it’s an anime music video

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May be wrong tho

lone pond
heady turtle
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Oh why would you need to increase the fps of it lol?

lone pond
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if you got the app anyone @here pls dm me 🙂

heady turtle
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Don't tag ppl

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Especially here

lone pond
heady turtle
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Because i needed an upgrade from my r9 380

lone pond
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does it bother you if the game run at less than 10 fps?

heady turtle
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I wouldn't even bother playing a game under 60fps

drowsy kiln
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That just sounds like a horribly optimized game, how would an RTX card physically run anything less than 60

lone pond
heady turtle
drowsy kiln
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Maybe

heady turtle
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High details too idk

drowsy kiln
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Did they say 4k? Missed it if they did

lone pond
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dude i need to increase the fps of a video to make it look nice in the amv. if you got the app it would be grateful tnks

heady turtle
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I think they're doing a horrible job at advertising this app or something

drowsy kiln
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Wait are you trying to increase the FPS in a recorded video? I'm confused what FPS we're trying to increase cause dain and amv we're mentioned.

livid idol
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If I need a video to be at a higher fps for whatever reason, I'd just record it at that fps.

drowsy kiln
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Yea, no application can make a video go from 10-60 fps or whatever, it's recorded you can't just make frames appear out of nowhere

livid idol
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You can with AI

heady turtle
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I'm guessing it uses an ai

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It's not to hard for an ai to do but it's not gonna be ideal

drowsy kiln
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Looking into it that's what DAIN is. "Free Open Source Ai That Increase Frame Rates Of Videos"

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It's a github project

heady turtle
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There ya go lol

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Ai is pretty cool tbf

drowsy kiln
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Yea I'm confused but whatever, they mentioned DAIN so idk why you wouldn't just use it but whatever.

heady turtle
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Idk where they are getting 10fps vids anyway

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Minimum is 24 for cinematic stuff so

livid idol
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If it's computer generated maybe they're just being lazy trying to fill in frames instead of animating it properly?

heady turtle
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I mean maybe but ¯_(ツ)_/¯

livid idol
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In the end, cool concept but limited, niche use cases

heady turtle
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Very niche yeah

magic wing
summer coral
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Asus rog strix 3090 oc white edition

heady turtle
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Yes

rose wasp
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How

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Tf

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Give me shop address in dms

tender mulch
karmic crag
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wow

lone pond
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another eh shuffleuh

magic wing
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pretty nice deal

lone pond
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stay sharp for possibly amd and bestbuy drop today AMD

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yeah 3070s are pretty good but no any 3080 or 3090 about a week uh

tender mulch
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Its amd Thursday ya

lone pond
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yeah my journey ended with amd so I got 6900xt till I can get any white 3080 or 3090 ✅

green harness
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The funny part about this shuffle is some of the 6800XT bundles are cheaper than the 6800 bundles

lone pond
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lol yeah

heady stratus
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DId You Know - White cards give more FPS

lone pond
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and theres 6800xt for 1320$ on roguecast its pretty same price as shuffle if anyone interested

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nevermind its oos already lol

lone pond
heady stratus
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Muy mas 💰

karmic crag
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can you preload a payment method into amd direct

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or do you just have to be really quick with checkout

heady turtle
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I'm not sure tbh

karmic crag
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hm

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i guess i'll find out

heady turtle
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Ik there's chrome plugins for best buy etc

karmic crag
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i'm on firefox ):

heady turtle
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Idk i feel if you get it in your basket in amd they'll probs give 10-15 mins to checkout

lone pond
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paypal is better

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amd dont have any account login

tender mulch
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Paypal or Apple Pay orSamsung pay ya?

lone pond
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I only seen paypal lol

tender mulch
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Ah

lone pond
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use your browser autofill just in case

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once paypal didn't worked and my credit card wasnt close to me so I missed it lol

tender mulch
hybrid kettle
tight olive
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hello guys did anybody know when will be droping some rtx 3060 ti card

tender mulch
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Nope, shuffle is different every day

tender mulch
main crane
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best buy isnt loading for me

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is it from all of the traffic?

tender mulch
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YEs

heady turtle
# hybrid kettle There are??

Yep i follow someone who made one, idk if I'd be able to post it, think it would be okay lemme find it first anyway

karmic crag
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the site and app are down

heady turtle
hybrid kettle
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Best Buy dropping rn

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Website end app down tho

heady turtle
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Oof

sharp wadi
hybrid kettle
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I give up

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It’s just not happening

heady turtle
hybrid kettle
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App not loading

heady turtle
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F

winged stag
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im always in a valo match while theres a drop.........

heady turtle
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Screw it, 2 losses worth of negative mmr for a gpu

unreal seal
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BestBuy droped some grafics cards

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Is BestBuy trolling me?

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It says please wait

tender mulch
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Yep

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that's a queue system

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so wait until it turns yellow again

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don't refresh

unreal seal
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But if I enter on my phone it says out of stock

tender mulch
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Keep the window open that says please wait

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You're in the queue

unreal seal
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Ok I can sit here for a long time

weak cape
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Yeah do not refresh

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Just let it sit

tender mulch
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I sat in the queue for 40 minutes for mine

undone sinew
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any in stock now?

unreal seal
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Is there a problem if im not singed in?

weak cape
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I almost got my 5900x that way then it said it couldn’t ship it to me thinkies

unreal seal
tender mulch
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If you're in the queue stay there

young quarry
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How does best buy work for the graphics cards?

unreal seal
weak cape
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You just click on the add to cart button

unreal seal
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I almost droped the towel

weak cape
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And get placed in a queue

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And wait

unreal seal
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Im in queue for a founders 3060 ti and for an evga 3060

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Same price

young quarry
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What site?

unreal seal
drowsy kiln
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BestBuy

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They are actively dropping

young quarry
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Oh I get ti now nvm

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But 3080's say find store for some reason.

drowsy kiln
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My laptop crashed when I was in queue for RTX 3060ti, 3070, and 3080 rip whatever can't change the past

tender mulch
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BB doesn't ship, gotta pick up in store

vital oriole
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^

tender mulch
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Had to get mine from a store 1.5 hours from me

fading ivy
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Bruh theres gonna be 60 series cards by the time i get a 30 series

weak cape
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Legit BB said it couldn’t ship to me and didn’t even give an option to pick up in stores

unreal seal
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It say add to cart

weak cape
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And there’s a BB like 20 mins away for me

unreal seal
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But it wont let me

fading ivy
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I got it in cart but no store

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then it went out

tender mulch
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If it won't let you then it's out of stock

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:/

karmic crag
fading ivy
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Dying inside rn

weak cape
karmic crag
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great card

hybrid kettle
young quarry
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It looks like they have 3080s just not near me

unreal seal
tender mulch
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Huh, got mine in January and they wouldn't ship

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Local pickup only

weak cape
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For something from 2017, absolutely still a good card

tender mulch
weak cape
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Not high-tier but before the great shortage the 580 8gb was around 190$

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For a new one*

unreal seal
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3060 did the same

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I didnt get it

vital pivot
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I am hating Best Buy myself.

fossil talon
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Nice, any card is good rn especially in this market

fading ivy
fossil talon
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Ok besides that XD

fading ivy
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Better than 3090

young quarry
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I got the old 750 ti 2gb (still newer than 256) wanting to upgrade but have issues winning a card.

flat bridge
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3 times i had it in my cart

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no cigar

vital pivot
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Same here. Not sold at store within 250 miles.

static palm
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Same

green harness
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same 😦

maiden mural
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Been having my father enter the shuffle for me for GPUs, won the 6800 yesterday

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Sadly had to pay over $1000 because of the bundle, I hate how they force those.

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I haven't been able to enter myself because I'm always busy when they come up, I've been funneling any money from christmas and my birthday since last year into this build, also got a Ryzen 7 5700x CPU.

tender mulch
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5700x?

maiden mural
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sorry, 5800x

tender mulch
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Ah, k

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I was like, what did I miss?

maiden mural
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I brainfarted, got the box on top of my desk until we put the new rig together

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Got a b550 gaming carbon wifi motherboard

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using corsair vengeance RAM, good stuff, no RGB

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Got a Seasonic Focus GM-850 PSU

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Gold rating

hot folio
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Wait there’s no 5700x? That explains why I never heard anyone talking about it

tender mulch
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ye

maiden mural
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Lol.

hot folio
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Haven’t really been looking at CPUs recently

maiden mural
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I'll be slapping it all in a Antec DP501 case when we have all the parts.

tender mulch
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Not interested in upgrading my 3700x until the next gen

hot folio
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Same here

maiden mural
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I wanted one of the new CPUs, I had an old Intel i7-3770

drowsy kiln
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Think they are planning to release a 5700x tho in the future maybe not

hot folio
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If I get a good deal I might go for a 5950x or 5900x

maiden mural
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Didn't want the Ryzen 5 CPU of this gen, but cant afford the Ryzen 9 ones

tender mulch
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Only new AMD cpu's I've heard of before AM5 will be XT versions

maiden mural
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So we went with teh Ryzen 7 5800x

drowsy kiln
hot folio
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I’ll probably buy an XT just so I can stick with my crosshair VIII as long as possible

maiden mural
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Hm. I wanted the 6800xt, 6700xt was cheaper by a good bit but everyone I watched just said it wasn't worth it.

drowsy kiln
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Well that would be the next time you upgrade, this is the last gen supporting AM4

maiden mural
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But I'll definitely settle for a normal 6800 that we won, new GPU is a new GPU at this point

hot folio
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Yeah

livid idol
hot folio
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I’m looking for another RTX card because I need the ray tracing

drowsy kiln
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Yea. So then I did hear something about it but that sounds like what AMD would do. No real need for a 5800x and 5700x tbh

maiden mural
hot folio
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Might end up just going for an A6000 tho

maiden mural
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In literally every shuffle

drowsy kiln
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Likely two weeks from now BestBuy will do another drop

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Easiest way to them them tbh, at least they involve some "skill" instead of a random dice roll

hot folio
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I’m pretty sure the A6000 has ray tracing right?

drowsy kiln
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For the cost of an A6000 you might as well get a scalped RTX 3090 if your looking to game at all

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Don't think the A6000 is great for gaming, might be thinking of a different quadro card

hot folio
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This ain’t a gaming rig

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I’m building another rig for myself just so I have a seperate pc for work and gaming

drowsy kiln
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Gotcha. So yea the A6000 has RT support

hot folio
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Because currently I have one PC that is mainly for work and a side of gaming

whole robin
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would a 5600x and a GTX 1650 go well together (at a time like this)

drowsy kiln
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How much you getting the GTX 1650 for?

heady turtle
whole robin
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$400 @drowsy kiln @heady turtle

drowsy kiln
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Oh god no

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You can get GTX 1650 Supers for $300 or less

whole robin
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where at

drowsy kiln
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eBay, OfferUp and Facebook Marketplace

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Don't look new for a GTX 1650 they haven't been in production for time time iirc

heady turtle
drowsy kiln
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Mhm. For $300 either a GTX 1650 Super or 1060-6gb would be a good bit better.

whole robin
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I see one for $300 but it is used

drowsy kiln
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As long as you buy and test locally or buy on eBay used is perfectly fine. Just use your better judgement, don't go spending $100 for a GTX 1070ti

vital pivot
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The last 1660ti I sold on eBay web by for $510.

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Went

drowsy kiln
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Yea. 1660 ti/super are about $550

vital pivot
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I have another one now and it hit 450 with 4 days left.

heady turtle
whole robin
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oh ok

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there’s websites selling it for like $250 but I’ve never seen them before

drowsy kiln
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What site?

whole robin
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am I able to send links?

drowsy kiln
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Yea

whole robin
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idk what it is 🤷‍♂️

drowsy kiln
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Well that looks a bit sketchy

whole robin
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yeah

heady turtle
drowsy kiln
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Yea just looking at it

whole robin
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what about this

heady turtle
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just buy on ebay

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youre not gonna find a legit one new

livid idol
heady turtle
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unless its like 800$

drowsy kiln
livid idol
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Maybe not a true "scam" site but garbage nonetheless

drowsy kiln
whole robin
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I’m just sick of trying to get a 3060

drowsy kiln
#

same thing

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Assume you tried at the BestBuy drop today?

livid idol
whole robin
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oops

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not that

livid idol
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That one's a scam

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I looked them up before

drowsy kiln
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^^^

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Honestly. If your really just looking for a temp GPU a GTX 970 is still a great buy for gaming. You can usually find them for $170-200

lavish otter
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Decent for gaming and scalpers don't bother with the 970 Nice

drowsy kiln
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You can't scalp a 7 year old card lol

lavish otter
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You wanna bet?

karmic crag
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^^

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wait 970s are 7 years old?

drowsy kiln
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Yea 2014

karmic crag
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thought they were younger than that

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huh

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time flies i guess

drowsy kiln
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Yea I said 5 but that was 10 series

static zinc
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shopblt can take months to ship if its back ordered

drowsy kiln
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Yes "months" cause they never ship. It's a scam look at reviews

static zinc
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i had to wait almost 6 months for some server parts

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nah shopblt is legit, they have been around forever

drowsy kiln
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Maybe for server parts but not for $150 GTX 1650 Supers, highly doubt that will ever ship

static zinc
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you have to understand how pc parts are sold

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they dont leave the factory and go straight to you

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there are many middle men involved

drowsy kiln
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Even if they ship, your still waiting another 6 months for a card

livid idol
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I saw that they were pre-selling inventory they never received and people canceled orders after 3+ months

whole robin
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is there any telling when graphics cards will be accessible without overpaying so much again

drowsy kiln
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Mid-late next year

static zinc
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atleast a year id say

livid idol
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Late 2022 at best

whole robin
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errrrrr

drowsy kiln
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Yea. Just around Nvidia 4000 series announcement hopefully things should die down; but then again who knows

livid idol
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The new tsmc fab in New Mexico should be running by then

drowsy kiln
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But a GTX 970 for about $170 is a great card, it is an older card don't get me wrong but can handle a lot more than an iGPU will.

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Considering a 5600x doesn't have an iGPU might not be a bad card to look out for.

whole robin
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it’s just frustrating how long I’ve been waiting to get a pc

livid idol
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Tons of people are in that place right now

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Ford had to shut down production on trucks due to lack of chips

dreamy dragonBOT
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astro#9425 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

whole robin
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bruh

drowsy kiln
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Not even just ford a lot of car companys did

livid idol
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Yeah ford is just the one that shut down 3 whole factories

drowsy kiln
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True. They we're impacted the most iirc

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But looking around I'm seeing GTX 980s for about $250-300 and GTX 970s for $170-200. A 980 would perform pretty equal to a 1650 super. The 970 closest card would be a RX 570 4gb iirc.

woeful perch
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does the re-sizeable bar feature in my bios do anything?

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I have a gtx gpu

tender mulch
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Not really

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Minimal performance increase in only a few games

heady turtle
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Only think it's on rtx 3000 gpus

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And also most of time it is worse than non rebar

woeful perch
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rly

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hmm

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It isn't via nvidia

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it is via my bios

heady turtle
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Yeah but it needs to be support in your gpus bios

tender mulch
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Well yeah

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But you need the VBIOS update form nVidia

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as well as motherboard BIOS update

static zinc
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@woeful perch it added around 3% for me but thats within error range

heady turtle
static zinc
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damn really? havnt heard about that

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it got me upto almost 60fps in cp77

heady turtle
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Yeah hw unboxed did a test of like 20 games

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See cp77 is an Nvidia sponsored title, pretty sure any titles sponsored by them has the integration but amd titles or sponsored by either and older games just tank

woeful perch
heady turtle
heady turtle
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opaque wedge
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Hey guys can I use case screws to mount the ek vardar fans

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Or do you need special screws

heady turtle
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Usually fans come with screws or you get case fan screws

opaque wedge
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Wait so can I use case fans screw

tender mulch
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no, don't use case fan screws. AIO's have metal threads, not plastic ones

heady turtle
tender mulch
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If top mount, you need the metal aio screws

opaque wedge
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No I am talking about only fans

woeful perch
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rly

opaque wedge
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No aio

heady turtle
woeful perch
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but that would be like 100+ fps right?

opaque wedge
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@heady turtle so I can use case fans screws#

heady turtle
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If it comes with fan screws i don't see why not

heady turtle
opaque wedge
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What if I only have the fans

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With no screws

woeful perch
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nice

opaque wedge
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Than can I use case fan screws

heady turtle
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Yes that's what i meant

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Not through a radiator tho like vintage said

opaque wedge
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Ok thx

magic wing
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Theres 1 good bundle

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The 3070 and ram combo nice

heady turtle
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yeah its a fairly decent bundle

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bit weird tho considering diff brands

past breach
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I am hoping to upgrade from my GTX 1060 6GB to a GTX 980TI. I know it is not a huge upgrade, but I am finding some cheap deals so I may be able to sell my 1060 for more than I am buying this 980TI and have some extra cash

tender mulch
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Bigger upgrade than you think

past breach
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Awesome!

tender mulch
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30-40% maybe depending on the game and resolution

past breach
#

Also, I may be able to get my hands on an FE so thats cool. I like the old style of the windblower.

tender mulch
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mmmmm, that old style ran hot

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I'd recommend not if you can avoid it

drowsy kiln
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Yea. People undermine the GTX 980tis cause they are "900 series" but 980tis are so much more powerful than you would think

tender mulch
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Or at least taking it apart, cleaning it and repasting it when you get it

supple socket
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is the 3060 better than the 2070 super in any respect?

livid idol
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No

wanton coral
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I'm officially depressed... I won the shuffle today for the 3070 and monitor but didn't order because yesterday I bought a 3070 from amazon. Lo and behold, it was a scam so I cancelled the order but didn't have time to place my newegg order 😦 back to the grind it is

supple socket
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i thought 3060 had better rt or sumn

livid idol
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Sort of but not worth buying it just for that

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It's only slightly better than a 2060S

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It's good for high memory tasks I guess but that's a minority of people doing that

supple socket
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maybe ill just look for a 2080 for a good price

heady turtle
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Funny

fading briar
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What is a good price for a GTX 970?

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And is there any other card that is better for equally or for a slightly higher price?

vital pivot
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Go to eBay. Sort 970 by sold. Average the price.

bitter totem
vital pivot
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Currently I have running at my home.

fading briar
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Why are you running at home?

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Treadmill?

vital pivot
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Msi 3070. Msi 3060, evga 2080ti and a 1080ti.

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My family all game 🙂

bitter totem
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i just got the 3070

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its so good

vital pivot
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Only card I want is a evga 3080 or 3080ti.

bitter totem
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my brother is selling his 3080 for $600

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he no longer uses his pc

vital pivot
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My box has the 2080ti. My wife has the 3070

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Your brother is stoopid

bitter totem
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lmao nah! he does not care if he looses money he no longer uses the card or pc

fading briar
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Question. Is that a pup in your pfp?

vital pivot
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Then sell your 3070 and buy your brothers 3080

bitter totem
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nah maybe if it was the ti but other then that i like the 3070

vital pivot
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Your both stooopid then

tender mulch
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No buying and selling here.

spare relic
fading briar
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Thank you. Didn't know how to sort by sold on eBay.

spare relic
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Left sidebar near the bottom I think

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On desktop browser

celest locust
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Just curious but how much would a 2070 be around?

plush comet
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Hey everyone not advertising just giving out recommendations. If you want to build a Gaming PC but cant find anything in stock yu an go do NZXT BLD where they have good gpus and cpus in stock however they are a it overpriced

hollow raft
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Hi anyone know if and how I can add one more GPU to the ALI463 (ABS Gladiator prebuilt)

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I know I should probably use a riser, but which one, should I change the PSU etc etc

tender mulch
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I'd be more concerned with the power supply to be honest

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It also looks like an MATX board with no other x16 slots available

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Thjis one yeah?

hollow raft
tender mulch
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Yeah, can't add another card because it's an MATX board with no extra x16 slots

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Or if there is one the GPU is covering it, can't tell from the pics nor description

hollow raft
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the motherboard is AMD B450M

tender mulch
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Right but it doesn't give a brand :/

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B450M just means B450 chipset in MATX format. It seems most of the B450M boards do have two slots but fitting another GPU in there would be tight. You mining or something?

hollow raft
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gigabyte

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no I want to try something

tender mulch
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Ohhhh, OK. You'll likely need a bigger power supply also then if you want to run the GPU at 100% load

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Riser cable if there's room, bigger power supply and leave the side panel off

hollow raft
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this is the board, I checked using system information

tender mulch
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B550 then

drowsy kiln
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Wait are you trying to use SLI?

tender mulch
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Nah, you can use two separate GPU's for Machine Learning

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They don't need SLI

drowsy kiln
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For machine learning makes sense

tender mulch
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Still, other parts besides GPU need purchased. Need to know what other GPU they plan to get and add to the machine

hollow raft
# drowsy kiln For machine learning makes sense

I believe you mean Scalable Link Interface here. SLI is actually kind of irrelevant here since this not a graphics processing task such as games or other such forms of image rendering. What we need in deep learning is multi-GPU processing. Here, in Tensorflow, for example, we can decide how to distribute computing across multiple GPU devices. We can use Tensorflow to see how many GPU devices we have.

hollow raft
tender mulch
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Well right, but is it a 3060 or a 3090 you plan to get? Vastly different power draw there

hollow raft
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so which riser cable and how much PSU capacity

hollow raft
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probably a 3060

tender mulch
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so another 200W, what size psu is in there now

hollow raft
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but I need to figure out if I need exact same 2 gpu's or not, still reading about it

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according to newegg 650W 80 Plus Gold, as I don't want to open it up yet to see it

tender mulch
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Yeah, that's pushing what you have already.

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If it's a 3060 could do an enermax revo DF 850W PSU

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Even a 3060TI or 3070

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with that

hollow raft
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so with a 850 I could do a 3070 along with a 3060?

hollow raft
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would a 750 be sufficient? I just noticed I have a smart 750 thermaltake lying around

tender mulch
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Mmm, thermaltake smarts aren't the greatest at quality

tender mulch
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Plus power spikes

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AKA transients

hollow raft
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so the board is able to add the GPU, given I use a riser cable

tender mulch
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Also, whichever slot the Riser cable goes to you'll need to manually set it to Gen 3 speed since the riser cables are gen 3

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Gen 3 cables with gen 4 slots and GPU's don't play nice

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Shouldn't affect speed or anything though, GPU's don't currently use Gen 4 speeds anyway

hollow raft
tender mulch
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Nope

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That's why the bracket and cable

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So it can be mounted outside the case

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owait

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that's a scalper price

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Find that bracket but somewhere else

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Should be around 50-60$

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$40 actually

plain kiln
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Is Newegg ever selling graphics cards at MSRP with drops or only scalpers?

tender mulch
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Newegg Shuffle

plain kiln
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Outside of the shuffle I mean

tender mulch
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Not outside of the shuffle, no

plain kiln
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Think I’m 0/10 so far for shuffle

hollow raft
# tender mulch Newegg Shuffle

Been busting my hours almost daily to win. Today I won!!! But didn't see the mail in time. They were very early with the mail.

tender mulch
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OOOFFFFFF

hollow raft
plain kiln
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Ouch - they don’t send a text to inform you that you won?

tender mulch
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snap lol

plain kiln
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That combo isn’t actually terrible - can atleast use the monitor

hollow raft
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Usually I get the rejection mail around 11pm, this came in at 2:30pm

tender mulch
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Winner emails go out first

hollow raft
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I had option to buy up untill 5pm and I logged in at 5:15pm and was already to late

tender mulch
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Usually around 2 PM PST for the record

hollow raft
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I had to bang my head a few times to get back to work

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damn those scalpers

plain kiln
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How many Newegg shuffles did you enter prior to today?

hollow raft
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except 3 or four I missed

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one on a saturday, which isn't a normal shuffle day

tender mulch
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Not a fan of EVGA PSU's, they don't hold up well under full load all the time. They also don't handle transients well

hollow raft
tender mulch
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YW

sullen panther
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Wait I meant to reply to the one about you going on 5:15

tender mulch
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No buying or selling here, sorry.

slender flume
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oh sorry about that

last thunder
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can tweaking my afterburner settings help me get better performance?

tender mulch
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Yes

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overlocking can give you more performance

last thunder
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how might I accomplish this

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I have an RTX 2060

lavish otter
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Even tweaking the fan curve can improve performance

tender mulch
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Get 3DMark Timespy and start turning things up and testing it until it breaks, then back it down a notch and leave it.

last thunder
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would you mind providing me the link to the correct download

tender mulch
last thunder
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for 3dmark not afterburner

tender mulch
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Oh

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last thunder
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ahh

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I mean my PC works fine now idk if I need to drop 20 dollars on that

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just wondering if any minor tweaks might make a difference

tender mulch
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There should be a free Demo version