#graphics-cards

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solemn panther
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the battle continues for the rest of us

green harness
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FWIW the offer to buy came at 7:07pm edt, so I'd check every two hours after they first start sending at 5pm edt

empty jetty
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i kind of wanted a 30 series card but now i just want any decent card i can get 😭😭

spare relic
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gtx 970

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250 bucks ssadge

heady turtle
solemn panther
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hmmm

spare relic
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actually haven't checkedd recently

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is it still 250 or is it like 300 now

empty jetty
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doesnt the 970 suck buttcheeks?

heady turtle
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No bout the same as a 1060 6gb

empty jetty
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oh idk what im thinking of then

spare relic
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90% of the universe runs on something equivalent to a 1060 6gb

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that's why your vision looks okay when you're young and then you get older and it gets all blurry

empty jetty
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id ideally want anything from like a 1660 super to a 2070 but they’re all out of stock or too expensive

heady turtle
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That's because they've been discontinued for almost a year

spare relic
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yea

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and there's nothing lower than a 3060 new

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starting to look like they're not making 50s anymore bbnohappy

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and double trouble, intel doesn't look like it wants to make i3s anymore

heady turtle
spare relic
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they only made 10th gen refresh i3s

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no 11th gen

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which I guess is technically new i3s tbf but not on rocket lake

heady turtle
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Well 11th gen was 💩 anyway apart form i5s wouldn't worry unless there's no i3 12 gens

spare relic
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the top end was bad, a rocket lake i3 actually might've been pretty good

heady turtle
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probably terribly priced tbh

spare relic
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ofc

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nothing will ever be nicely priced until markets crash hard :)

heady turtle
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Well i just mean the i3 refreshes are probs around 10400 price knowing intel

spare relic
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just about I think so

karmic crag
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where have you been for the past 6 months kekw

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same

plush shale
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My advice is keep trying with the newegg shuffles bc that's how I got my 3070

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From what i've seen prices aren't too bad

fallen tulip
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I have obtained an Gigabyte Aorus Masters 3070 for $950

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Check r/HardwareSwap daily, some good souls are out there selling cards near MSRP once in a while, and better yet, could be local

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For context: MSRP for the card is $800, but the guy paid $48 in shipping and taxes

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So he only made a total of $103 by selling me the card for $950

odd scroll
fallen tulip
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I got lucky and bought a card off of someone on Reddit

torpid gust
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3300x rtx 2060 or 10400f rx 5600 xt?

eternal blade
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I would go with second option

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Intel isn’t bad but amd is better

coarse spindle
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I might be having a problem

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So i just bought a used 1050, and it immediately passed fur mark and I downloaded new drivers. Problem is it doesn’t work well in game.

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GTAv is a MESS, with the game being unplayable. If you stand still for long enough it’s normal but if not it is random colors and shapes everywhere

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And other games are missing textures ECT. What should I do?

little saffron
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lower game settings

plush shale
odd scroll
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lol

spare relic
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no way

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free gpu

odd scroll
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The average time a chip factory takes to make the first chips from breaking ground is 2 years

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I think given the demand and resources poured into ending this it will probably be a little faster. Maybe 1.5 years

magic wing
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What u on about

wicked ferry
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christ I just want a 1650 super, some budget level parts, but oh no, everyone needs to crash the entire stupid gpu market

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is it honestly that much to ask for?

magic wing
wicked ferry
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What makes me angry is when I see stuff on etsy or something and they have a massive mining rig with 7 3090s

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the scum of the earth

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underdeveloped cantaloupes if you will

dreamy dragonBOT
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LordJay#0001 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

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LordJay#0001 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

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LordJay#0001 has been kicked

Reason: Too many infractions

wicked ferry
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uh oh

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stop saying no no words jay

dreamy dragonBOT
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LordJay#0001 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

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LordJay#0001 has been kicked

Reason: Too many infractions

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LordJay#0001 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

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LordJay#0001 has been kicked

Reason: Too many infractions

wicked ferry
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chill

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bro it’s not that serious

young quarry
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Amd card vs Nvidia for games i understand that Nvidia has better ray tracing but how important will that be in future games?

wicked ferry
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that’s not the problem

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I know more about nvidia cards than I do amd

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I understand that amd is a very good company and they’re really good at what they do, but I don’t know enough about their gpus to actually say I’d buy one myself

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in all fairness amd is just now gaining momentum, whereas nvidia has been around for a long time and is rooted as a good gpu company in any good techie’s brain, and just a good company in general

young quarry
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Same reason I am hesitant I know Nvidia more but if amd just as good increase my chances at getting any gpu.

wicked ferry
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and the same level graphics on the gpu just at a lower price

magic wing
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like how far into the future

young quarry
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Let's just talk about games in development as can only speculate about games further in the future.

magic wing
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young quarry
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Granted I don't pay much attention to games in development.

magic wing
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Its a comparison byt he answers your question in parts

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watch the whole thing

wicked ferry
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always gotta grab an ltt video smh

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why’s linus gotta be so good at his job?

young quarry
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Guess I'll watch the whole video watched parts of it already today.

wicked ferry
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@magic wing has linus done a video on amd cards that you know of?

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I’m looking to actually learn more on those

wicked ferry
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what do you mean?

magic wing
wicked ferry
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like a review or something

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just an overall

magic wing
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I mean you can search it on yt

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LTT rx6000 review

wicked ferry
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I was just wondering

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thanks

magic wing
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Theres 3 vids about them

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so better to search on yt

wicked ferry
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ok

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hopefully I can get a better understanding of amd cards

young quarry
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Will Ray tracing replace rasterization for rendering in games or do you think will have both or rasterization in games for next 10 or so years?

wicked ferry
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Ight, I’m gonna go find some kind of caffeine because it’s way too early rn, and I really shouldn’t be awake, peace peace.

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thanks for the help and the good conversation

young quarry
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Ok morning to you.

magic wing
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again im not an expert tho

young quarry
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Ok thats what I was thinking but like you I am no expert.

heady turtle
magic wing
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Leenus explains well

heady turtle
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Yeah i watched it already

magic wing
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in the vid

heady turtle
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Ohh i can't remember watched it when it came out

magic wing
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Ray tracing is just way easier to implement in games than raster tho

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so as rt gpus become commonplace, devs might stop focusing as much on raster

heady turtle
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Hmm yeah i guess

limber flax
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Raster requires a lot of prebaking to make lighting look realistic

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Rtx enables developers to simply place the light source and focus on other aspects of the game

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So it saves a lot of time, and like crai said it will become more commonplace with time

heady turtle
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Hmmm fair

vital oriole
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I fully support RT

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It's advanced af, but ofc new tech sooo

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RT has been a thing, but no one bothered to step in as boldly as Nvidia did recently

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It's fair people sees it as gimmick atm, cause it hasn't matured yet

magic wing
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I mean ray tracing isnt always better than raster tbh

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Just easier to implement

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in 99% of cases you wont notice the difference between raster and rt

heady turtle
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Rtx Minecraft looks exactly the same to me tbh

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Idk if it was just a bad example map or what but

magic wing
drowsy kiln
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Must have been bad map

heady turtle
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Guess so

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Because it looked exactly the same bar a tiny bit of shadows but meh

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Also windows 10 app store Minecraft is just a janky interface tbh

drowsy kiln
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Yea, Windows 10 is a lot more janky

magic wing
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java doesnt

heady turtle
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Ik lol but still janky

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Clearly not made for desktop with the settings and stuff

vital oriole
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I like RT because well, easier for devs to implement

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Performance is bleh, because it is early

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I would totally live with rt if perf impact isn't so high

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So games will take less time to develop graphics wise

heady stratus
vital oriole
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At what res, may I ask?

heady turtle
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Props 1440p

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With a 3090

median sequoia
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Is there a shuffle today?

charred remnant
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I think while RT may not look appreciably better yet it's probably because the technology is still in it's infancy and because of current performance implications and cards with rt not being commonplace significant amounts of time need to go into raster anyways

normal hawk
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Probably

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Mon-sat i think @median sequoia

charred remnant
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Given a few years I'd be willing to bet it will be much more standard and probably have much higher visual fidelity

vital oriole
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Exactly

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RT is taking huge steps into the right way

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Especially how ambitious Nvidia is now

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rn it's hella useful for blender rendering or smth

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Optix is p gud

heady turtle
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Probs atm I don't think it's practical as unless you have a card that costs 1k+ you need to use dlss which is a crutch to make rt perf drops bearable but it's not really the same as you're rendering less pixels that's why it works better lol

vital oriole
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It isn't practical right now, I agree

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But in the next few years, possibly

heady turtle
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Until you can play rt on a xx60 card without dlss i won't really consider it practical lol

vital oriole
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Best to have it around rather than doing nothing and never letting it mature lel

heady turtle
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You won't even get 1650s at mc because they've been discontinued for almost a year at this point

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Only place is ebay pretty much

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If you're lucky at best buy /mc you can get a 3060 evga xc3 black or gigabyte eagle for 350ish

vital oriole
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I wish rona situation dies down at least somewhat

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GPU shortage is hitting so hard due to surge in demand

prime niche
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Gtx 1650 super for 225? Good or bad?

green harness
# heady turtle Props 1440p

Unlikely unless they're not using dlss. My 2080super can maintain a 60+ with rtx on and maxed out at 1440p

heady turtle
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They most likely aren't using dlss

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And tbh dlss bit of an unfair comparison

vital oriole
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225

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eef

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Well, dlss is a good enough substitute atm

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It helps with rt's perf weakness

heady turtle
normal hawk
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I'm correct in assuming this is a fake 1050 to right? Lol

vital oriole
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yes

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fake as heck

normal hawk
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It screams GTS 450 to me

vital oriole
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shouldn't even have hdmi

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i meant vga

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pascal dropped vga

normal hawk
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Yeah, my LP one has DVI and 2 HDMI ports i think

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Lol

lone pond
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I ordered it already to see what is it 😂

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and it processed looks like I'm getting something lol 😂

green harness
hybrid kettle
# lone pond

maybe they meant to puy 1434 dollars instead of 14.34

magic wing
vital oriole
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I meant the nvidia optix rendering engine

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It uses rt and it speeds up rendering speed up to insane levels

magic wing
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no 1650 has that cooling shroud iirc

prime niche
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Gotcha

magic wing
# vital oriole I meant the nvidia optix rendering engine

An application framework for achieving optimal ray tracing performance on the GPU. It provides a simple, recursive, and flexible pipeline for accelerating ray tracing algorithms. Bring the power of NVIDIA GPUs to your ray tracing applications with programmable intersection, ray generation, and shading.

lone pond
magic wing
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Thats what the nvidia page says

vital oriole
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Yes

charred remnant
vital oriole
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But it speeds up blender rendering sooo much

hybrid kettle
vital oriole
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Compared to other rendering engines in blender

magic wing
lone pond
heady turtle
magic wing
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The real fidelity improvement will be newer apis

magic wing
vital oriole
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You can uh, research on google?

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And I've seen many people who uses the stuff, showed the proof even

lone pond
heady turtle
flint vigil
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yesssss

charred remnant
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Oh and I just realized one thing complete adoption of rt could really help with is game size since you don't need a million shadow maps and stuff. You pretty much just need reflection mapping and rt does the rest.

magic wing
vital oriole
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yes

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It speeds up the rt

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Which is a nice feature

charred remnant
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I mean that's not unreasonable when one of the longest parts of a render is the rt passes

magic wing
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I mean only in edge cases where you need to render out a scene with a buch of light sources... Not universal speed increase

heady turtle
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Good afternoon ;-;

vital oriole
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ik

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But it's good to have

heady turtle
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Haoi

vital oriole
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Crap? wha

heady turtle
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Yes i am a deck

magic wing
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They comparing different generations of nvidia cards. Not the option on and the option off

vital oriole
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wut

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Lemme show you

magic wing
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it doesnt take more than 3 braincells to realise newer gen gonna be faster than old gen

vital oriole
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Look

heady turtle
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Dw my gf always types it as payo or auto corrected to that lol

magic wing
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that tells us jack about how helpfull the feature is

vital oriole
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There's literally the purple bar in addition to the cards that has optix

heady turtle
vital oriole
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^

vital oriole
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moar pics

magic wing
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any info about 3000 series tho?

vital oriole
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Nah, this benchmark is not new

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But 3000 series should be better

magic wing
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Interesting stuff tho

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They do be streamlining rt

vital oriole
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ye

magic wing
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I imagine amd should be coming up with a feature like this soon enough as well

vital oriole
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I doubt they will anytime soon, sadly

magic wing
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6000 series does have RT cores

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its very easily possible

vital oriole
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Yeah, but AMD doesn't seem to wanna work on that yet

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They focus more in games

magic wing
vital oriole
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I know

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Hence I said 'doesn't seem'

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And well, yeah.. even in normal stuff, cuda has it better than AMD's stuff

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As in rendering without optix

normal hawk
tender mulch
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Thats a fake 1050ti

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Dont buy it

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Report that to newegg.

median sequoia
normal hawk
heady turtle
median sequoia
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Text message notification link

heady turtle
tender mulch
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How? Its a 650 witj a different cooler on it

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Seaech google for 1050ti acam and compare coolers.......

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Youll know it when you see it.

heady turtle
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I thought it was a gts 450 no?

summer condor
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Thats not a great shuffle

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No 3070 or 3080

normal hawk
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No i mean how do I report it @tender mulch we already established it's fake

normal hawk
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Why are the amd cards so expensive

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1000$ for just a 6800? When that's supposed to be the price of the 6900xt.

tender mulch
heady turtle
normal hawk
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Nvidia cards aren't that much over i don't think.

6900xt is going for 2600$, 6800 XT are 1.4k+ lol.

The Nvidia cards are cheaper

heady turtle
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3070s go for 1.4k easily on ebay if that's what you're talking about

normal hawk
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I mean in the shuffles

heady turtle
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Ohh idk bout the shuffle pricing that much

heady turtle
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Yup

covert forge
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A lil over double for some 3070s

heady turtle
covert forge
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And arguably the best looking 3070 the ftw ultra is 680$

heady turtle
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They're also decent gaming cards too

normal hawk
covert forge
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Scalpers and botters are worse than trash

normal hawk
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And they don't perform as well in Unreal or Blender

heady turtle
normal hawk
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True

hot folio
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Only reason I went for the 3060s are the micro ATX boards lmao

heady turtle
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I'd assume they're looking to pay to a willing miner?

covert forge
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Bro I saw a group of 3060s getting sold for like 150,000

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The bidders kept on going higher and higher

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Insane

heady turtle
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Damm

covert forge
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But the ppl that are buying it are also to blame

hot folio
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Isnt ethereum going to disable mining soon?

heady turtle
# hot folio Isnt ethereum going to disable mining soon?

Technically yes, they're moving to proof of stake in like 2-4 years or so so you'll need to have like x amount of ether given to Ethereum to prove you're a trusted miner basically but still mine just not in the same way afaik

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Thought it wasn't til 2023 at earliest?

empty jetty
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i hope so

heady turtle
# empty jetty i hope so

Mining are like 5-10% off the demand and most miners are individuals just making money while not gaming with their pc so

empty jetty
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anything helps 🤷‍♂️

heady turtle
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Not really, just means instead of me for example paying back the money and basically getting a free 3070 from an r9 380, and then people not being able to afford the cards at the inflated prices

raw ingot
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can u guys help me finding a backplate for my Zotac Gaming RTX 2080 ti AMP! edition

fallen tulip
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so buying a 3070 for $950 and I registered its warranty is considered a good deal right?

fossil talon
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1 GPU mining gang for fun

supple socket
hybrid kettle
supple socket
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-400

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or -350

fallen tulip
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MSRP for my card was $799 at Best Buy

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So it’s more like -150

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The guy I bought it from gave me the original Best Buy receipt

heady turtle
fallen tulip
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Ok I would say I got a pretty good deal all things considered

vital pivot
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Yeah.

heady turtle
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Newegg shuffle is monday-sat most days

eternal blade
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What are good mobo for a 3700x with built in WiFi and Bluetooth

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Is*

heady turtle
eternal blade
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Ok

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Whats a good psu?

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750w

hardy pond
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you get a psu based on your power needs. Most systems will probably use under 750w. Depends on your build though. pcpartpicker will help you estimate the wattage you might need

eternal blade
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Ok

eternal blade
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What’s a good brand to buy a mobo from

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I’m trying to get on for 150 or 130

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And I’m getting the Corsair airflow 4000d case is that good?

heady turtle
heady turtle
hardy pond
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I assumed it was mostly understood that you're supposed to get some wattage overhead

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yeah obviously pcpartpicker isn't going to be the final watt value but it's a good baseline. Prevents you from buying a psu that's too low basically

heady turtle
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Some people take it too literally and will put a 3080 and 5900x on a 500w psu because it's enough according to the wattage calc

hardy pond
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I always go for several 100w overhead

heady turtle
hardy pond
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I didn't know people were buying psu's at the exact wattage pcpartpicker was calculating

heady turtle
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Some people would

vital oriole
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^

lyric plinth
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I got a psu at 500W because then it’s relatively future proof to my budget

vital oriole
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500w isn't future proof at all in most circumstances tbh

heady turtle
rigid urchin
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6900 xt gigabyte aorus worth $2300?

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Think I pass wuuut

vital oriole
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999

lone pond
rigid urchin
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@lone pond got the shuffle for the 6900xt aorus w/ aorus mb. Which I guess I can flip mb for a loss. Got 30 mins to decide

lone pond
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get it and sell it perhaps

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or keep it

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it aint a bad card especially with such a gpu shortage around

rigid urchin
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2720 with taxes. Mb about 400 which I don't want but it's basically a loot box

vital oriole
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3070 better than 6900xt in perf?

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Since when?

fossil talon
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^^^

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Rather replace with a 3080/3090

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But if you can get a card, go for it

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No regrets, full send

vital oriole
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ye

flat bridge
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uh wut

spare relic
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not high enough

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pump it

flat bridge
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LOL

rigid urchin
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Seems high

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Like they're cheaper on ebay

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Sure they don't have the fancy lighting, but honestly I don't care about the lighting

fossil talon
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I mean for a good price near MSRP, full send.

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Newegg tends to be pricier than BB in most cases

vital oriole
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This one is a bundle

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It has a mobo

rigid urchin
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that's what it is

vital oriole
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Just join shuffle

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Also outta stock

rigid urchin
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yeah i got selected for that on shuffle-- it runs in 20 mins. I think i pass

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too much for shiny lights

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I won't select all nxt time =p

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if there is a next time

vital oriole
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Ah

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Well, there's always next

lone pond
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you were right

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my bad

fossil talon
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Userbenchmark thinkies

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But yes 6900XT destroys 3070

vital oriole
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^

lone pond
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userbenchmark not reliable?

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damn i never knew

rigid urchin
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6900 < 3080 right?

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perf

vital oriole
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it's better than 3080

karmic crag
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3080's probably the better buy though

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but in terms of raw performance the 6900 surpasses it

rigid urchin
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Ha my computer is 5 minute slow on the clock 🙂 too late now anyway

livid idol
swift cliff
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anyone have recommendations for 3090 strix thermal pad replacements as far as amount and thickness goes? Can't find much on youtube

cedar flume
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Waiting for 40 series or whatever comes next (if something comes for that matter) lol

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😏

fossil talon
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Yee

spare relic
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nice

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yea

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I got a 970 oem

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it's above a 1650 and below a 1650 super

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decent 1080p card

vital oriole
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so basically an rx 570 perf

empty jetty
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where did you get it?

nocturne vault
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my graphic card is producing a weird image on my screen, damn

heady turtle
drowsy kiln
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Not a big deal if it cant be fixed; I've got a EVGA GTX 970 (1x 8 pin and 1x 6 pin) this is paired with an FX 8350 and AM3+ Motuerboard.

I can turn on the system all the fans spin but no display signal. Troubleshooting steps?

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Ofc I can test in personal system but anything prior to doing so.

drowsy kiln
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👍

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Still no display. Motherboard is a ASRock 970 extreme3 if thats helpful at all.

heady turtle
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Also try reseating ram

drowsy kiln
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Battery. I can do pins if needed.

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Nothing after reseating. Tried single-chanel with both sticks as well.

supple jay
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i wanna upgrade from a gtx 980 what card should i get that is like 250$ at MSRP

drowsy kiln
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MSRP isn't a thing anymore, do you have a $250 budget for a card?

magic wing
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I wold keep the 980 for a while longer

supple jay
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no but in my country they are still at MSRP

magic wing
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till u can add to ur budget

magic wing
supple jay
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morocco

spare relic
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with 250 you might be able to get an uhhhhh gtx 970 :^)

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upgrades :^)))

drowsy kiln
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GTX 970s are like $185; but yea no upgrade that's a downgrade

supple jay
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what about a gtx 1650s?

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its like 240$

drowsy kiln
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Where do you live that cards can be bought for MSRP?

spare relic
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that's also a worthless buy lmao

supple jay
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well its not at exact MSRP they add like 50$

drowsy kiln
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Yes, but where? Nowhere to my knowledge can you get cards for anywhere near MSRP

spare relic
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msrp should be 160

supple jay
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morocco i already said it

drowsy kiln
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Missed that

supple jay
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just a card pls

supple jay
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nice its 1% more imma get LOL

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what about a gtx 1660?

drowsy kiln
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MSRP of a 1660 Super is $230; but then again like only ~10% performance difference

supple jay
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any card that can run at 144fps with ryzen 3 3100

magic wing
drowsy kiln
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What games?

supple jay
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fortnite minecraft rocket league

drowsy kiln
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Yea, a GTX 980 can run 144fps in Roblox but that's not really hard to run kekw

spare relic
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minesweeper

magic wing
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even the 3060 struggles to hit that in a few games lul

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like cybrpunk

supple jay
magic wing
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problem solved

supple jay
#

it got like some old crappy intel graphics

drowsy kiln
#

Exactly. It's not demanding.

Fortnite on maxed settings with a GTX 1660 Super (shaders turned down) I got around 110 fps iirc

supple jay
#

no no i play competetive i dont need high settings

magic wing
#

not 1440

drowsy kiln
#

Playing 1080p ofc. When I benchmark stuff always 1080p since not a lot of people that I'm selling computers to will be using 1440p

supple jay
#

lets say i wanna play at like 900p low settings what card can do that with ryzen 3 3100

spare relic
#

if I had a 980 I would probably go for a 2060s or a 5700, if they existed

supple jay
#

and i also wanna do some game dev

magic wing
#

you can do game dev on any card

supple jay
#

no

magic wing
#

cpu and ram more important for dev coding

supple jay
#

i made a game i stopped cause it runs at like at 10 fps

#

i havent completed it yet

spare relic
#

damn

#

optimize lmfao

#

don't use million tri assets

magic wing
#

yep

drowsy kiln
#

Yea. Thats just optimization

magic wing
#

also what ram u have for that 3100

spare relic
#

yanderedev toothbrush

supple jay
#

16 gb

magic wing
#

and 1 16gb stick or 2 8gb sticks

supple jay
#

dual channel 3200mhz

magic wing
#

in slot 2 and 4?

supple jay
#

i just said dual channel so 2 8gb sticks

drowsy kiln
#

Yes but on the mobo

magic wing
#

in slot 2 and 4?

drowsy kiln
#

Are they next to each other

supple jay
#

oh ye in 2 and 4

#

there is a one empty slot between them

spare relic
#

then you're fine

#

just get good bbnohappy

supple jay
#

dont judge me ok im new

drowsy kiln
#

Yea. GTX 980 will easily hit 144fps in fortnite on low settings

supple jay
#

and idk how to optimize my game

magic wing
#

Then dont dev till you know how to imo

drowsy kiln
#

My old RX 580 used to get over 144 on med-high settings 1080p

magic wing
#

thats a bad 580

#

my 570 does that

supple jay
#

so imma spend that money on monitor and keyboard and mouse

spare relic
#

dw man you'll learn new things with time :)

#

I myself do not make games

magic wing
#

but then again my 570 does 1430 clock and 2200 mem

drowsy kiln
#

Yea I was doing base clocks didn't OC

magic wing
drowsy kiln
#

Way you worded it sounded like you OCed

supple jay
#

well im just at the first stage of game dev when i reach like a high level of game dev imma need RTX that stage i will propabally reach when the shortage is over

drowsy kiln
#

Unless your coding the next Cyberpunk don't really need an RTX card to be totally honest. Once RT becomes the standard then yea but a GTX 980 is a great card.

magic wing
supple jay
#

im only using unity for now when UE5 comes out imma need a better card

magic wing
supple jay
#

work hard on what?

magic wing
drowsy kiln
#

Coding; it's a lot of work to become a good game dev. I've always been interested in coding never got around to gave dev tho

supple jay
#

ik coding

magic wing
supple jay
#

but map design and graphics oh sure not

#

unity is easier

magic wing
#

Much better scripts are available

#

C++ is way better

supple jay
#

C++ is harder

magic wing
#

So then work on it

supple jay
#

C# is easy

drowsy kiln
#

Yes, but 99% of games will be coded using C++

magic wing
#

yee

drowsy kiln
#

Look up your favorite games bet they were coded in C++ since it's a lot more optimized iirc

supple jay
#

ye but those are huge companies there are like 20 programers im just an indie game dev

#

btw the reason why C# is easier than C++ is because C++ you have to manual take care of memory management, C# does that automaticaly

magic wing
#

also you might need more time than a studio

#

that doesnt mean its impossible

supple jay
#

and i need more people

magic wing
drowsy kiln
#

Yes it's easier sure. But manual control of stuff is so much better for game dev tbf

magic wing
#

not necessary

#

you can do just as good a job as 20 ppl

#

just takes more time

drowsy kiln
#

Probs a better one tbh. One person one idea vs 20 people one idea

magic wing
#

yee

drowsy kiln
#

Everyone would have their own way of doing things

supple jay
#

ik its possible but i dont have only game dev in my life i also have school and we are trying to move out

magic wing
#

So it will take more time...

#

still not impossible

supple jay
#

ik ik like more than a year to make a complete game

#

ik ik

#

well thx for help cya soon when i need help

drowsy kiln
heady turtle
#

Oof :/

drowsy kiln
#

Yea; bound to happen eventually tho. I've bought enough computer parts at this point that eventually it would have happened.

steady briar
#

Does anybody know good and semy cheap graphics cards and where to buy them?
I need one for my pc

spare relic
#

what are you looking for

#

settings/framerates

karmic crag
#

"cheap" depends on what you're looking for

steady briar
#

Whole pc setup 1000€

hybrid kettle
#

Preferably 3060ti

dense panther
#

or a 6700xt

steady briar
#

Oke thx🍞 👍

normal hawk
green harness
normal hawk
#

Ah

#

On Thursdays?

green harness
#

Usually. Iirc they have also dropped on a Friday once but I don't track it really

normal hawk
#

I bought a prebuilt to get a 3080 so I'm not looking for a 6700xt lol

heady turtle
# dense panther or a 6700xt

6700xt even if direct from amd is 480$ which is unlikely to fit in a 1000$ totoal budget tbh but you can get 3060s for about 80-100$ less or 3060 ti fe if you're lucky

dense panther
heady turtle
#

Yes it is in this market

heady turtle
dense panther
#

i mean its the price of a 3060ti and it has way more perf

tender mulch
#

6700XT??

heady turtle
#

480$

#

80 more

dense panther
#

no rtx 3060

heady turtle
#

And you realistically aint gonna get a 3060 ti for 400

dense panther
#

i got one

heady turtle
#

Unless you're very lucky at best buy

tender mulch
#

best Buy only FE drop

dense panther
#

and i also got a rtx 3060 at mrsp

heady turtle
#

Yeah but you can't account on everyone getting the few fe cards

dense panther
#

i got evga

#

not fe

heady turtle
#

Well lucky you but I'm being realistic over here

#

Majority aren't msrp

tender mulch
#

I got a 3070 for 559, doesn't mean you should count on it lol

dense panther
#

true

#

but evga queue is one of the best to get a card at msrp

karmic crag
dense panther
#

if you want the rumoured 3080ti or 3070ti at msrp evga will be the best way

#

you just need to register when it launch

tender mulch
#

The queue that never ends LOL....and I haven't received my buy email yet, got mine in a BB drop

heady turtle
dense panther
#

you need to register when it launch

heady turtle
#

And how are you supposed to expect people that are building now to travel back in time and sign up for that queue XD

dense panther
#

3070ti and 3080ti are expected to launch this month

heady turtle
dense panther
#

so you can get those with evga queue

heady turtle
heady turtle
dense panther
#

i know im saying for people trying to get like 3080 or 3090 3070ti or 3080ti will be a solid option

#

also evga will surely launch a card close to msrp

tender mulch
#

Maybe but we gotta wait until June to find out for 3080TI

heady turtle
#

And there's not even 3070 ti solid leaks yet

fierce shoal
#

Anyone has any idea about when graphics cards are going to get back in stocks?

heady turtle
#

At earliest q4 2022 most likely

#

According to?

fierce shoal
heady turtle
#

Yup

abstract marlin
#

It won’t be relative easy to get a graphics card until the chip shortage is over and q4 2022 is a rough estimate on when the shortage might get better

heady turtle
#

Pretty much

verbal basin
#

you won't get a gpu as long as mining is still this profitable guys lol

#

don't get your hopes up

hybrid kettle
#

Mining maybe is 5%-10% of the problem

#

90% is demand

regal quail
#

5-10% is still pretty big tho

dense panther
#

yes and the only store when they sell card at msrp is bestbuy and amd store

#

evga queue also

#

true

#

not in canada tho

#

😢

#

newegg is a joke now with rtx 3060 bundle at 1200$ cad

#

and also rtx 3090 at 4k

livid idol
#

Canada computers is the microcenter of the North

dense panther
#

they have almost no stock

#

they drop card 2 by 2

livid idol
#

Well yeah so does everyone else, no one has stock

dense panther
#

i least they are not only dropping bundle that no one wants

tender mulch
#

Shuffle has had a few non-bundled GPU's lately

#

They starting to listen

dense panther
#

newegg are selling bundle that are almost finish pc

#

case power supply cpu ram and the gpu

tender mulch
#

But the bundles may also be forced by the AIB since all the bundles are brand same

dense panther
#

no i heard they where force buy distributor

#

rosewill psu Cringe

heady turtle
#

Yeah seems like they're putting most of all of their gpu stock into prebuilts

livid idol
#

At least rosewill has power supplies that don't explode, unlike gigabyte

dense panther
#

true

heady turtle
#

Shhh

#

Potoato pot-a-toe

livid idol
#

Gp-pgm is the name lol

dense panther
#

850w psu for 100$ Cringe scary

livid idol
#

Who came up with that

dense panther
#

i wouldn't put that with my 3080

livid idol
#

The one that came with my gpu was DOA. I'll make them send me new ones until their stock is gone and they can't bundle.

dense panther
#

some lucky people where able to get a 3070 without anything cuz the bundle item was out stock

heady turtle
heady turtle
empty jetty
#

Whats the best way to get a graphics card nowadays do i just try to get lucky on ebay or can i do something else?

livid idol
#

Pure luck, or if you're in the US camp out at a microcenter

heady turtle
#

Ebay is only scalpers or scams btw

empty jetty
#

wdym by queues?

heady turtle
#

Evga waiting list

lone pond
covert forge
#

What would be good wattage for a 3080?

odd scroll
#

For a PSU?

covert forge
odd scroll
#

750W

#

Nvidia takes into account other components you may have that draw power so the recommendations have some wiggle room

covert forge
#

Alr thx

brisk flame
hybrid kettle
covert forge
#

Aight thx

vernal terrace
#

where do i find graphics cards with directx 11?

magic wing
heady turtle
#

Twas just incase they didn't know lol

heady turtle
heady turtle
hollow raft
#

Hi All

#

just got two "new" rx 590 8gb

#

but they don't work

#

soem dude soldered things of one of the cards, not sure why

#

and the other card should be new

#

got them for free

#

and if I can repair them it would be great

#

after installing the card, the bios doesn't recognize it and the fans don't turn on

heady turtle
#

Ehh anyone who was giving away working gpus for free atm must be crazy tbh

hollow raft
#

what could be the problem

hollow raft
heady turtle
#

Well a lot of modern cards fans don't turn on unless they get hot

hollow raft
#

looking if its posible to fix

#

or maybe my board isn't compatible?

#

I have a Biostar b75mu3+

hybrid kettle
#

Does it have pcie slot

#

And a uefi bios

hollow raft
#

yes

hybrid kettle
#

Then it should be compatible afaik

hollow raft
#

so why wouldn't bios recognize the card?

#

I have a 800w power supply

#

I tested the power with another card (my current card) and it works (So PCIE slot and power shouldn't be a problem)

#

could he have accidently burned something on the gpu or something else and can it be repaired?

hybrid kettle
#

Not Too familiar with gpu repair and troubleshooting sorry

hollow raft
#

thanks @hybrid kettle

#

anyone anything?

sullen panther
#

Is the gpu dirty? @hollow raft

#

Might got some dust with iron in it or something that's shorting it

heady turtle
#

Dust wouldn't cause it not to power on just poor thermals

coarse spindle
#

I could use some help

#

my GPU is not very happy

sullen panther
#

Ummm the only thing that I can think of is to lower the core clocks and memory clocks as low as possible

#

On msi afterburner

#

And if it still does that then oof

livid idol
# coarse spindle

Check video cable, power, reseating pci slot, undo overclock or underclock the core. If that still doesn't help, then I'll lead everyone in a moment of silence in respect for the dead. If it's artifacting that badly even hardware repair might fail to help.

elder sandal
#

is the 3060 unlocked driver outdated yet

livid idol
#

No

#

It's still beta compared to mainstream version

elder sandal
#

alright, and its fine to use for gaming as well right

livid idol
#

Yeah

elder sandal
#

kk thanks

#

want to get the most out of this 3060 but its also my pc so i dont want to mess it up

livid idol
#

The absolute worst thing that happens is you need to Uninstall and reinstall the driver, not a big deal

elder sandal
#

true

hollow raft
orchid mauve
#

what are 3090s retail ? 550?

sullen panther
#

i wish

orchid mauve
#

i cant remember what is it

sullen panther
#

i think the msrp was like 1500 dont remember

fossil talon
#

$1500 for FE

#

More for AIBs

split elm
#

Someone help pls.. my graphics card keeps cutting out when it’s under load.. everything is plugged in correctly, driver is update but I keep getting a black screen in and out while playing big games like RL and COD.. anyone else ever has a problem like this?

sullen panther
#

could be a psu issue, not supplying enough power

split elm
#

But it’s been working for weeks.. that’s what I thought too but why now

proper karma
#

random question but would a Sapphire HD6570 work well with a OEM 240 watt psu
I would only use it for light emulating

vital oriole
#

should be ok

livid idol
fossil swift
#

If i underclock the rtx 3090 way low how much will temp decrease?

#

not sure im happy with 90 to 100C

livid idol
#

Dropping power limit is the best way to cut down on heat, how much depends on your model

fossil swift
#

could you give me an estimate

livid idol
#

Too many variables, you just have to test it yourself

upper mural
#

90 and 100c is is crazy hot for the gpu chip itself. But if its the memory your talking about then they say that is in spec

livid idol
#

90 is perfectly within operating range, 100 is toasty but just on the edge of throttling.

outer blaze
#

ramp TF out of your GPU and case fans @fossil swift

#

Might help a bit

coarse spindle
#

@livid idol well press F to pay respects to our fallen brother

#

Because i cant find a fix

#

However, the artifacts shouldn’t affect mining, right?

ripe hazel
#

I feel that ^ I'm tryna trade my 580 for a 5500xt lmao

#

People are selling them for like 500$ tho on fb 😂😂

#

Also everyone around me is selling their aorus x570 mobos but no msi ones ;-; sad day

livid idol
marsh vapor
#

So is it even worth it to buy a graphics card right now?

#

Ok I haven’t been around here much so sorry for asking that annoying repetitive question lol

#

I’ve had my eyes on 3070s and I have the money for it. I’m just not gunna pay extra when ik what they are actually worth.

#

U good xD I totally understand

fossil talon
#

Rommy trying not to flex the 3070 that was won from LTT VAG drop

#

I was close but not that close XD

marsh vapor
#

Ltt wha

#

Lol

#

Cool

fossil talon
#

Last drop was a html jumping game to verify as a gamer

marsh vapor
#

So you got really lucky?

fossil talon
#

Other drops were questionnaires

#

Man the 3070 FTW3 ultra is godly

#

Gg

#

I was rank #676 at the end cryIgnore

#

Lol I did too at the end

#

I was eating when the drop occured and was frantic at the whole process

marsh vapor
#

So you do random games or questionnaires on their website to get a chance at it.

#

And the better your performance the better your chance or just random?

fossil talon
#

Basically the faster you go through the game or questionaire, the sooner you are to getting the card

#

Theres a limited amount of cards and a huge queue after the verification process

marsh vapor
#

Lol

#

I probably wouldn’t have good luck with it. I’m not a hard core gamer either

quartz nexus
#

can i get a gpu

heady turtle
#

Read the rules bruh

quartz nexus
#

ha ha

#

i meant on shuffle

spare relic
#

Speech 100

heady turtle
#

Doubt 100

karmic crag
#

but "will you?" is the real question

forest oxide
#

There a shot microcenter gets 3000 series in on a Monday?

karmic crag
#

how am i supposed to know kekw

#

i have no clue where your local MC is or what their restock schedule looks like

forest oxide
#

Just wondering if it’s even a thing. Sorry I asked.

karmic crag
#

no problem i'm just bustin your chops

karmic crag
raven thunder
#

honestly not sure how early you have to be for the ltt drops

green harness
forest oxide
#

Line to the side and back, maybe not today on the MC lineup lol

raven thunder
#

yea thats what i thought but you never know

raven thunder
tender mulch
#

@empty jetty not a chance. That listing will be removed in 1-2 hours

empty jetty
#

thats what i thought

raven thunder
twin forum
#

Does Newegg ever restock new GPU's (30X0 NVidia or 6X00 AMD's) that are not part of the shuffle? I was looking back through their Twitter and they used to announce restocks but I haven't seen anything in a while.

tender mulch
#

No, they do not

#

It's all shuffle

twin forum
#

The fact that they also force all those cards in bundles with other crap is also pretty crappy. It really alienates all the customers that are trying to upgrade their GPU but have a complete system otherwise.

tender mulch
#

Eh, it's probably not newegg forcing the bundles

twin forum
#

Who would it be then? The bundles are not always the same brands, so I doubt its the manufacturers.

green harness
#

Distributors could be forcing them

#

Either way I wish the bundle I got was a gpu plus a crappy psu rather than that monitor

hybrid kettle
green harness
#

I think what actually happens is distributors force companies to buy other parts (say shoddy PSUs) along with GPUs

tender mulch
#

GN did a video on it

green harness
#

Newegg may also create some bundles to move less attractive stock, but it makes a lot of sense for the bundle to originate when Newegg goes to buy the gpu

tender mulch
#

No 100% firm information but something like that

heady turtle
fluid vessel
#

Ordered a gpu off of Newegg and it's in china right? Yeah that was the 16th of last month that's not what I'm mad about I'm pissed that it hasn't moved an inch last update was on the 3rd and it hasn't moved facilities

heady turtle
#

Ehh sounds like you bought a scalped gpu from china or fake, pls let it not be a fake 1050 ti

fluid vessel
#

It was a 1030 and it had good reviews

#

I'm just trying to get into pcs

dreamy dragonBOT
#
SquidSacks#4500 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

fluid vessel
#

F

#

This crap with the graphics cards is stupid

drowsy kiln
#

Well a GT 1030 isn't gonna allow you to get into PCs sadly. Just slightly better if not the same as a modern iGPU

fluid vessel
#

It'll do its job it's my first pc man

#

And I'm broke as hell

tender mulch
#

If it's from China, it's not sold and shipped by Newegg

#

Third party seller

#

Kinda like Amazon has them

fluid vessel
#

I think it said it was milktea

tender mulch
#

Ye, try and find one a bit more local

fluid vessel
#

Lol if I got it thru Amazon I'd have it last month

tender mulch
#

Or sold and shipped by Amazon or Newegg

fluid vessel
#

Can I get a refund on it tho

heady turtle
#

Probs

tender mulch
#

IDK, DM NeweggService

#

They're Newegg EMployee and can help

fluid vessel
#

Cool thanks for the help guys

tender mulch
#

YW

spare relic
#

Maybe something like a GTX 950 would be a decent starter

#

eBay is where I look for older cards

fluid vessel
#

I'm gonna be honest I don't know a lot about specs for graphics cards

#

And a 1030 would run the games I wanted at a reasonable resolution

drowsy kiln
#

What games?

fluid vessel
#

mainly just tf2 and some indie games

#

Nothing like doom I have my ps4 for that

drowsy kiln
#

Fair. TF2 can be run on a toaster

fluid vessel
#

Yes

#

But it'll also run like all of my steam library I have a lot of old games

#

Well maybe not the modern tomb raiders lol

drowsy kiln
#

Yea tomb raider would be a no for a GT 1030. Think that needed a GTX 600 series or something but then again thats minimum not gonna be really playable on a 600 series

vital oriole
#

It can do tr.. at low settings

#

lel

#

Assuming the newest one

fluid vessel
#

Yeah but I also have all the tomb raiders on my ps4

drowsy kiln
#

Possible. Honestly thinking about it a GT 1030 might honestly be better than some 600 series

vital oriole
#

660 and 660ti are faster than 1030

#

650ti, nah, not really

fluid vessel
#

Yeah I'm just getting into this so I'm really not sure which are best but I do know my friend can still run AAA games on his 1050 ti

spare relic
#

1030 is an okay card

#

950 would put you in between for about the same price as a 1030 I think

drowsy kiln
#

Used to have a GT 1030 it worked just not a great experience over console to me.

vital oriole
#

tfw here with a 850m

spare relic
#

I have a 730 peepoSadSip

vital oriole
#

Possibly gonna have a 2060, but.. that's not gonna be my main

#

It's a miner lmao

spare relic
#

If my 730 can run some games nicely a 1030 can give more breathing room

vital oriole
#

Gonna farm some chia too

#

Right alongside eth or betterhash

spare relic
#

And a 970 can blow them all. Out of the water

vital pivot
#

Chia farming is a waste of thought

fluid vessel
#

My question is who thinks they can sell a 1030 for 300 dollars

#

Wtf

spare relic
#

950s are ~130 ebay

fluid vessel
#

Even I know if this card thing wasn't happening this card would be around maybe 100$

vital pivot
#

@vital oriole watch the last videos from derbaur

opal trellis
#

GPU Scalpers these days

#

Who do they think they area

vital pivot
#

He went into a deep dive on chia farming

vital oriole
#

it's called scarcity

#

also okie

#

imma watch him later

#

Also, I won't do chia on ssd ofc

#

It would kill em in no time

vital pivot
#

I suggest you watching the German version first. It’s always fun to feel like your getting cursed at by a guy with a mouth full of gravel

#

Yeah it would kill them in a week

vital oriole
#

I just don't think of chia as profitable atm, just wanna hold onto em for free

#

And Imma farm chia in pools, cause farming alone sucks

woven mural
#

I need an opinion from someone that knows about MSRP. I bought a XFX Speedster MERC319 6700 XT for $979 plus tax. Is that a good price? Opinions on the card?

magic wing
#

the 3060ti outperforms the 6700XT sometimes

karmic crag
#

shuffle's now open

karmic crag
flat bridge
#

zzzzz

#

tht shuffle

karmic crag
#

yeah

#

lame shuffle today

normal hawk
#

Shuffle kinda sucks today

calm crow
#

Bad shuffle

magic wing
#

There is a 3070 and a 3080 tbf

#

and 2 6900XTs

normal hawk
#

6900xt for 1800$ and 2400$? I'll pass

#

Literally a 999$ card at MSRP

#

It's ridiculous that the amd cards continuously cost more than the RTX cards

empty jetty
#

I would be happy with a 2060 as my main card at this point this graphics card stuff is hard

heady turtle
heady turtle
hot folio
#

DLSS is really the only reason why Nvidia cards have greater FPS in some games imo

normal hawk
#

Tbf, the rtx cards outperform them in everything else at this point

heady turtle
empty jetty
#

i would be perfectly happy with a 3060

heady turtle
hot folio
#

I wouldn’t really go for an original 20 series, in my experience a bunch of them had problems with stability and such

empty jetty
#

now the struggle is finding a 3060 thats anyway near msrp 🥲

normal hawk
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Dlss, nvenc, better drivers, Tensor cores, etc. Better rendering on both Unreal and Blender. Better for gaming, streaming, and they end up being cheaper online compared to the 6000 series cards.

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The 480$(msrp) 6700xt, literally is sold by stores for around twice that.

The 6900xt costing more or the same as a 3090 is sad too.

The reason I wanted one was cause for msrp it's performance isn't as bad.

hot folio
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I wanted an AMD card originally but I needed the good ray tracing for rendering

empty jetty
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whats the most likely way for me to get a 3060

normal hawk
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Or the gamergauntlet thing on LTT, or Evga's Queue

lyric plinth
empty jetty
heady turtle
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Random

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You can also try getting lucky at a best buy drop

heady turtle
hollow cargo
lyric plinth
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I have a 1030 rn but my 1650 super comes in next Wednesday

hollow cargo
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i got a 1650 super but i need a 6 pin and i have a 4 pin

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so i sent it back

winged pendant
calm crow
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There’s been 3080s in the last few ones irc

winged pendant
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Wayyyyyy more 3060s than 3080s, no doubt about it

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People are buying them as place holders though. More powers to the manufacture

calm crow
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Yeah. Also they had almost a 2 week period where there wasn’t any 3060s. Before hand

vital pivot
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Uh what

slim vessel
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nah, i want more RX cards and less RTX cards

vital pivot
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/quote @hollow cargo ??

lone pond
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i found a 6900 xt for $619

heady turtle
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Scam lol

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Msrp of that card is 1k

lone pond
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its on sale

brave violet
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wuttt @lone pond where?

heady turtle
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It's a scam

swift lava
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Why do you need a 6900 xt

heady turtle
flat bridge
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amd cards

swift lava
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Ok

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I prefer amd cards for one thing

heady turtle
flat bridge
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imagine

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i wouldnt want a 3080

swift lava
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I want to buy a Rx 5500 xt

heady turtle
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You probs don't it's worse than a 1650 super iirc

brave violet
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5500xt? you mean 6600XT?

swift lava
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I do do

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5500 xt

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I do want to

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I had a Rx 580

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But I killed it

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Now I have a 1050 ti

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So I want to get a Rx 5500 xt cuz it's a bit better than rx 580

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So I can have my rx 580 back in the form of a Rx 5500xt

swift lava
brave violet
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when it comes out or 6700

swift lava
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Ok

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Mby a 6700 xt whith my ryzen 2600

brave violet
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ya not bad

swift lava
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Ok

brave violet
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when you can get 5000 when the prices gets decent

swift lava
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I don't want 5000

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I want to play nier aumata definitive edition on high

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Thats it

brave violet
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k

swift lava
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Ok

brave violet
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🙂

heady turtle
swift lava
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I know

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But i like and software better

heady turtle
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Smart access memory

swift lava
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Ok