graphics-cards

[halcyon basin]

...

[gritty notch]

fr though its just standard pricing

[halcyon basin]

okay

[lone pond]

Is there a set time for the 3060 release

Like AM or PM

[lone pond]

MSRP should be 4 dollars. Lili is undercutting you.

[halcyon basin]

oh

thanks for havin my back

[lone pond]

https://tenor.com/view/yes-wheeze-gif-14488819

OEM

[tender mulch]

Still a 2060

[lone pond]

3080 still isn't needed though

oh yeah guy left discord server

nvm

[inland hound]

He does that

He joins to ask a question then leaves so no one can ping him an tell him something useful

[lone pond]

i don't think he knows what DND is lol

[covert forge]

What sites should I have opened when I’m tryna get the 3060?

[haughty glacier]

that's ez

Newegg

[coarse spindle]

Best buy and bh photo video miles better than newegg for this

GPU shopping on neweggg is infuriating

@haughty glacier

[haughty glacier]

lol

[rigid crag]

https://youtu.be/XfIibTBaoMM

[velvet dawn]

I was all excited to get my last-gen card once the new ones came out... that didnt work out well for me 🤣

[rigid crag]

Puts things into perspective very well imo

[lone pond]

no

[rigid crag]

I said imo

[lone pond]

95% of the 💩 linus was spewing was bs

[velvet dawn]

Elaborate? Thats a high percentage

[rigid crag]

In what regard

[lone pond]

the only thing he was right about was the resale value of the card

nvidia cares far more about gamers than AMD

they were trying to make up for the lower profit margin compared to AMD

[rigid crag]

Still a company, their first priority is making money

[lone pond]

If those cards are actually priced well it will lower demand for the 30 series cards by alot

[lone pond]

Same for AMD?

"pretends to care"

Yet they have a lower p rofit margin compared to AMD?

idk man

[dim merlin]

if their profit margin is low

[rigid crag]

The pretend to care to the extent of making their customers like them

[dim merlin]

it's to stay competitive

also, their profit margin on the founders is lower than amd's

[lone pond]

Wrong

Everybody was bashing nvidia about AMD having "better prices"

[dim merlin]

their profit margin on distrib cards probably is just the same

[lone pond]

but they never actually looked at the profit margins

[lone pond]

LMAO

No

[dim merlin]

Okay

[lone pond]

i got my 3080 TUF OC for 50$ over FE

[dim merlin]

show data

and ? The cooler on the FE was better than the TUF, more than likely

and more expensive

[lone pond]

It isn't

[rigid crag]

Locking the bios on the 3060 won't stop miners from buying them, by the time these mining cards are out mining will of died off a decent bit imo, and mining cards are absolute e waste crap

[lone pond]

TUF is one of the best models other than kingpin

Was seeing problems with the thermal pads on FE

[dim merlin]

Thermal pads isn't what made the fe way more expensive than other cards

why do you think they made 10 of them in the whole world lol

[lone pond]

Its because it looks cool and it only has one supplier lmfao

[dim merlin]

Either way, if amd can get away with higher margins next gen, and outperform nvidia on growth/perf

good on them

[lone pond]

They won't

😛

[dim merlin]

I wouldn't be too sure, given their curve compared to nvidia

but we shall see

who knows what the future is made of

[rigid crag]

Obviously Intel is gonna be the king of gpus in the future

[dim merlin]

kek

got a whole lot of catching up to do

[haughty glacier]

5500 xt 8gb or just the 4gb one?

literally most reviews says it's bad and all but hey

1650S where

[surreal spindle]

should i sell my gpu 🧐 I saw prices went up and wondering if its worth it

[haughty glacier]

if u rly wanna upgrade maybe yes

u gonna need to clutch getting the midrange-highend ones tho

it's mostly OOS lol

[surreal spindle]

cool thanks

i dont really know that much about the used market of pc parts

[round crown]

what gpu do you have?

[surreal spindle]

I have a 1660 super that i paid around 250 for and theres a few going for 500-800 near me

[round crown]

oh 1660s?

[surreal spindle]

yeah

triple fan gigabyte OC

[round crown]

you could totally sell that for 600+ lol

[surreal spindle]

im wondering about getting a new one though 🤔

would that be like literally impossible

[round crown]

yea, try and sell it for 800 or above and buy a 3080

[dreamy dragon]

nuggie#4057 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

[surreal spindle]

oops

[blissful basin]

Hm you think I could sell a EVGA gtx 970

[surreal spindle]

fr?

[round crown]

no cursing

yea

[surreal spindle]

damn

[round crown]

best buy is your best bet

[surreal spindle]

im in europe 😔

[round crown]

yes lol

[blissful basin]

How much

[round crown]

hm

maybe around 300-400?

depending on how stupid people are in your area lmfao

[blissful basin]

Hmm

[haughty glacier]

u think 5500xt gaming x 8gb is a good deal? $268.75

1650S is just ugh

[ripe ivy]

Considering the insane prices right now, that sounds okay. Actually that isn't much higher than MSRP which is like 199 or so I think

[turbid stream]

when 1660 ti and super will be in stock 😦

[warm dune]

anybody have any good gpu deals for the uk?

[karmic crag]

no one knows

i don't think gpu stock will regulate until after the pandemic

[turbid stream]

rip

[hasty stag]

what area are you in? I've seen both avail at Best Buy; then again there's some right now on Newegg's website but for a ridiculous price

[turbid stream]

high price..

[spice mulch]

Im having problems identifying what graphics card I have when I run dxdiag it says I have the Radeon RX 570, when I look at the website where I bought my PC it says I have the NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1660 Ti 6GB. Which is it?

[tender mulch]

RX570

Builders change parts all the time

[drowsy kiln]

The card should say what brand it is so look up that brand with RX 570 and GTX 1660ti. But as vintage said its most likley an RX 570.

[spice mulch]

Where do I check that?

[tender mulch]

If DXDIA says it's an RX570, it's an RX570

It's reading driver data

[drowsy kiln]

Just on the card itself. Should say XFX, Gigabyte, MSI, etc. But from what you said pretty sure its an RX 570.

[spice mulch]

Why does it not show up in the part builder on newegg?

[round crown]

use pcpp

[spice mulch]

?

site?

oh nvm

pc part picker

What brand do I choose there is not just Radeon

[tender mulch]

What exactly are you looking for?

Replacement card?

[spice mulch]

no I want to build a new PC with that card

@tender mulch

[inner yoke]

Just botted like 50 3060 Tis to resell #LOL

[spice mulch]

PCPP does not have the AMD Radeon RX 570

[inner yoke]

Guys don't ban me I was just joshing

[tender mulch]

Probably not available

All decent cards are sold out

[spice mulch]

I own it now I want to reuse it

[tender mulch]

Ok, I'm not understanding the issue then?

[round crown]

its just out of stock

you can set a price manually

[spice mulch]

I want to build a new PC with that card but I dont know what is and what isnt compatable.

[round crown]

gpus are compatable with everything

pretty much

[tender mulch]

It's all compatible

[spice mulch]

im not a super PC builder espionage... elaborate

[tender mulch]

The card will work with any new PC

[round crown]

there's no compatability issues, as long as the mobo has a pcie 16x slot, it will work

[spice mulch]

mobo?

[round crown]

motherboard

thats pretty much every single modern motherboard btw

so you dont need to worry about your gpu not being compatable

[spice mulch]

the Asus PRIME Z390-A Motherboard
works it has 3 of those slots

thats what I wanted to use

[round crown]

what build are you making?

i would not recommend going with z390

9th gen intel leaves no upgrade path and its perf isnt great either

[tender mulch]

It'll be fine

[spice mulch]

upgrade path, is that what I can do to upgrade it in the future?

[tender mulch]

Why Z390 in a new build though?

yeah, what Ssenti said is that there's no upgrade path for that down the road

In other words, what you buy now is kinda it

If you wanted a new CPU in 2-3 years, there won't be any

[lone pond]

intel is not very futureproof

[tender mulch]

It's not but neither is AMD at this point

5000 series is the last of the AM4 CPU's

[lone pond]

ah

at least the am4 socket has lasted long enough

[tender mulch]

Next round will be AM5 with DDR5 potentially

[lone pond]

oo

ddr5

[spice mulch]

What should I use then

[tender mulch]

If building new, Z490,Z590, B560/B460 so you can upgrade down the road.

[coral yew]

560?

[tender mulch]

Yes

https://www.newegg.com/p/pl?d=B560

High ram speeds even on i5/i3. No restrictions unlike B460

[coral yew]

Alright

I never heard of 560 so was confused

[tender mulch]

It's brand new

For 11th gen intel

[coral yew]

Alright

[spice mulch]

These are my options

I guess

[tender mulch]

What CPU?

[spice mulch]

i9 9900k

[tender mulch]

Intel 9000?

Why 9th gen?

10th gen is here with 11th gen just around the corner

There is no upgrade path with a 9900K

without a new motherboard to go with it

[spice mulch]

Its way more expensive than what I wanted to spend

[rapid imp]

Focusing on the 9900k, I lean on the Z models.

Z390, if compatible with the chip, that will give you much to work on.

[tender mulch]

You already bought it?

[spice mulch]

no

[tender mulch]

Ah

[spice mulch]

the i9 10900F is the cheaest model on newegg and its $387

[rapid imp]

Focus on the Z model, regardless of which chip you buy.

[spice mulch]

i wanted like $365 or less

[rapid imp]

I'm sure the techies would agree with that, but I'm often wrong.

https://premiumbuilds.com/guides/best-motherboards-for-i9-9900k/

[tender mulch]

Yes, we disagree because there's no upgrade path

That's the end of the road

If you want anything better, you'll need a new motherboard AND cpu

[rapid imp]

I meant to agree on a intel motherboard being a Z--- model.

[spice mulch]

I have not bought anything yet...

[round crown]

you can get a 10600k or a 10700k for pretty cheap now

[tender mulch]

OH yeah, def Z model

B is for super budget builds

Except B560

[rapid imp]

There you go, we're on the right path.

[tender mulch]

Those are really good TBH

[round crown]

b560

[tender mulch]

No, we aren't

[round crown]

does it have oc?

does it have unlocked ram?

[tender mulch]

WIth 10th gen out and 11th gen coming very soon, shouldn't buy 9000 series

[rapid imp]

In terms of what motherboard to get, that is.

[tender mulch]

B560 has unlocked ram yes

[round crown]

oh thats good

[tender mulch]

hecking on OC

No CPU overclock on B560

But good ram support

[rapid imp]

If TnT wants a 9900k, at the very least, point at a proper board.

[ripe ivy]

It took them so long, but at least the RAM isn't arbitrarily limited anymore

[spice mulch]

I dont know what I want... Like I said im not a PC building espionage

[rapid imp]

You could always forge on AMD.

[tender mulch]

if you had to buy RIGHT NOW, 10700K with B560 or Z490. Newegg has some really good bundles for sale

With an upgrade path

[round crown]

wait b560 is out already?

[ripe ivy]

PC building Espionage? 🕵️

[rapid imp]

They meant connoisseur.

[tender mulch]

https://www.newegg.com/p/pl?d=B560

[rapid imp]

But word salad aside, TnT doesn't have to focus on Intel.

Backtrack a bit...

https://www.newegg.com/intel-core-i7-10700k-core-i7-10th-gen/p/N82E16819118123

https://www.newegg.com/intel-core-i9-9900k-core-i9-9th-gen/p/N82E16819118147?Item=N82E16819118147

So you'd be paying less if you go for the 10700k, which has the same base/thread count.

[stuck lynx]

bb restock tomorrow hopefully

[round crown]

oh thats actually really cool

[spice mulch]

https://newegg.io/a6531640 ?

[tender mulch]

Not the 212

Not for a 10850

[rapid imp]

You don't have to pay that much for that chipset.

[tender mulch]

The 10850K will pull up to 265 watts

[rapid imp]

Are there 10700k combos that are near $500?

[tender mulch]

You need a good cooler for that

[spice mulch]

https://newegg.io/a6531640 How is this so far I want to stay under $1050

[tender mulch]

You need a different CPU cooler

[rapid imp]

You're really sticking with the i9, huh?

[tender mulch]

The Hyuper 212 won't keep that 10850K cool

It's a 250 watt CPU

[rapid imp]

I'm guess you're using the future computer as workstation to require that premium model?

[spice mulch]

Like?

[tender mulch]

I'm looking, hold on

[rapid imp]

Why an i9, TnT?

[spice mulch]

To be honest I dont know...

it seemed like the right thing

[rapid imp]

You're willing to make an expense for something you don't know?

Going for an i7-10700k is also the right thing.

Especially if you wanted a 9900k in the first place, since both share similar specs.

Frankly, you're getting more value with the i7.

[tender mulch]

If you want an air cooler, this one or a Dark Rock Pro4 https://www.newegg.com/noctua-nh-d14/p/N82E16835608018?Description=cpu cooler LGA1200&cm_re=cpu_cooler LGA1200-_-35-608-018-_-Product

[rapid imp]

Noctua-D15, or a Scythe Fuma 2.

[spice mulch]

I wanted black...

[rapid imp]

https://www.newegg.com/noctua-nh-d15-chromax-black/p/13C-0005-001H5

[dawn plover]

nd-d15 is quite expensive in black

you can get the ek-aio basic 240 for like 90 bucks

[rapid imp]

https://www.amazon.com/Original-Design-Towers-Cooler-SCFM-2000/dp/B07QMK5R45

[dawn plover]

or the liquid freezer ii for 99 bucks

[rapid imp]

The i7s and i9s opt for a quality air cooler.

[spice mulch]

Rgb?

[dawn plover]

none

[rapid imp]

You want an RGB fan?

[spice mulch]

kinda...

[round crown]

get a 280mm liquid freezer or a nh-d15

[rapid imp]

TnT wants to showoff their case.

[dawn plover]

or if you don't want chonk get a nh-u12a

[rapid imp]

I could suggest a Hyper 212 RGB, but that works best for mainstream CPUs like the i5-10500k or Ryzen 5 5600x.

[dawn plover]

but ofc it's in the ugly noctua brown kinda style

[lone pond]

aio or dh15

[lone pond]

212 sucks

I have a 212 evo

[spice mulch]

Hey if im going to be staring at my case on my desk for the next 4 years I want it to look good

[lone pond]

garbage

[rapid imp]

Works fine for me, Dread.

I'm good with the 212.

[lone pond]

cause also depends what their doing with the cpu

[tender mulch]

212 on a 10850K? No

[dawn plover]

^

[rapid imp]

Of course not, vintage.

I never suggested that for premium chips.

[round crown]

why a 212 even

212 sucks

[lone pond]

^

Its a 10 year old design

[round crown]

it's worse than prism? i think

[rapid imp]

Heck, if I'm upgrading my CPU to 5800 or 5900, I go for a better fan.

[lone pond]

Yep

[tender mulch]

212 not at all. not while the SSE224, Gammax 400 and Ventroo V5 exists

[rapid imp]

My 212 is exception for what it is.

[lone pond]

my prism can run pbo slightly better

[round crown]

gammaxx 400 ftw

[lone pond]

Im swapping it out with an AIO

[rapid imp]

But I'm clearly the outlier here, so no use of addressing further.

[lone pond]

cause 212 evo gives me headaches.

[round crown]

for $20, the gammaxx 400 is really the best

[tender mulch]

You're simply overpaying with less cooling for the 212

[lone pond]

Prism does better for 212 for pbo

[rapid imp]

I got 38c idle, 54c average, 67c max.

It got the job done.

[spice mulch]

So if I choose that what cooler is RGB and Black?

[lone pond]

what cpu first of all

Need to scroll up maybe

[rapid imp]

I already gave my answer, Dread.

The cooler is fine for the chip I currently have.

Considering it uses 65w.

[tender mulch]

What chip?

[lone pond]

wait does SE224xt basic support intel?

[rapid imp]

5600x.

[tender mulch]

yes

[lone pond]

Cause thats decent

[rapid imp]

I could've sworn I said that already.

[tender mulch]

and no, the 5600x BASE TDP is 65W

TDP doesn't account for boost clocks

[lone pond]

Don't know how the hell your cooling that thing lol. Unless the curve is strong.

[tender mulch]

My 65W 3700x will pull down 120+ watts

[lone pond]

3700x has been recently starting to struggle like racer said

[spice mulch]

i7 10700k

[lone pond]

lol

[rapid imp]

Like I said, my 212 RGB got the job done.

[tender mulch]

Good for you but please don't recommend it to others.

[lone pond]

Can't believe there still selling the 212 smh

Its a 10 year old design

with "refinements"

[next leaf]

I'm being offered a 2060 bios flashed to a 2070 but idk if that's good or if anything bad will happen

[rapid imp]

That's a cruel thing to say.

[tender mulch]

Not really

[lone pond]

^

[spice mulch]

build page https://newegg.io/a6531640

[lone pond]

Intel also runs hot

Lol, a 120mm fan on a 212

and don't see much heatpipes

[rapid imp]

What was that $30 fan with the RGB y'all were recommending recently?

That Linus mentioned?

Y'all can just recommend that to TnT.

[lone pond]

SE-224xt?

Dark Rock 4 Pro?

Gammax?

[spice mulch]

Does not have RGB..

[lone pond]

You sure about that?

[spice mulch]

on newegg site

[dawn plover]

you can buy sum rgb fans and slap them onto the cooler

[lone pond]

^

Don't know why RGB is so important, but you do you

🤷‍♂️

[tender mulch]

Dark Rock Pro4 doesn't come with RGB fans

[rapid imp]

researches

Vetroo V5 CPU

[tender mulch]

Gotta add those extra

[round crown]

drp4 not as good as d15

[rapid imp]

That's what y'all were praise, and my mistake, it was JayzTwoCents.

Go for the Vetroo V5 CPU, TnT.

[tender mulch]

Eh, praise on AMD

[lone pond]

DH15 ofc is the best iirc

[tender mulch]

AMD 5900x only pulls 150W

[lone pond]

Best air cooler, close price to aio's

[tender mulch]

Intel runs higher wattages than AMD

[lone pond]

I'd assume that's why intel runs HOT

🔥

[rapid imp]

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B08F21X2VP?

[tender mulch]

Not sure I'd put that Vetroo on a 200+ W TDP CPU

[round crown]

intel i9 need beefy cooler

[tender mulch]

they pull 250W

AMD doesn't

[lone pond]

I'd assume so lol, i9-9900k lots of wattage

[spice mulch]

what about i7

[rapid imp]

I'm so sorry for these abuse of recommendations.

[lone pond]

still hotter most likely.

[tender mulch]

10700K pulls 150W

[round crown]

i7 need somewhat beefy cooler

[lone pond]

Because 3700x is equiv to about a high i7

[round crown]

you probably wont need an aio for i7

[lone pond]

so 3700x tdp, but pulls a bit more wattage.

Also 212 evo installation confusing

[rapid imp]

Confusing? How?

[lone pond]

had someone thread the motherboard with the wrong screws

Guess they didn't read the manual

[rapid imp]

Y'all are just rockin' throwin' ol' 212.

[lone pond]

Cause 212 Evo is an out dated design

[tender mulch]

No

[rapid imp]

Yes

[lone pond]

and modern CPU's pull way more.

[tender mulch]

There are better coolers for half the price of it

[lone pond]

^

Lol.

[spice mulch]

Wow im really good at starting arguements...

[rapid imp]

Which is why I opt for an alternative for TnT.

[lone pond]

212 evo

[rapid imp]

Keep on keepin' on, Dread.

[lone pond]

reviews from 2 years ago, outdated design.

Sigh

Dear god. Someone running FX on that. I give up.

[dawn plover]

smh

[spice mulch]

and all is silent...

[rapid imp]

I'll say this. You can replace a fan from a cooler with a RGB case fan if you want RGB. You have to read instructions, but that can be done.

[spice mulch]

hmm...

[rapid imp]

Play it safe with a Fuma 2, it offers a premium performance for the price it's asking.

[dawn plover]

it's not that hard tbh

it's quite expensive but not difficult

[tender mulch]

SIgh

The Fuma 2 is meh also. Watch the GN review on it. SLow fan speeds = higher temps

[spice mulch]

can i put this on the be quiet one? https://www.newegg.com/thermaltake-cl-f109-pl12bu-b-case-fan/p/N82E16835106633?Item=N82E16835106633

[lone pond]

At this point, if your willing, SE 224XT, Dark Rock 4 Pro, or even a AIO

Keyword: Willing

[rapid imp]

I actually haven't tried replacing a case fan for an air cooler before.

[chilly bison]

hey guys

[rapid imp]

I hear good things from Corsair's case fans.

[chilly bison]

so the regular 3060s are launching in 3 days

[tender mulch]

Yep

No details on when or where though

[chilly bison]

is it worth to uprade to that from a 1060??

[spice mulch]

https://www.newegg.com/corsair-co-9050071-ww-case-fan/p/N82E16835181132?Item=N82E16835181132 ?

[tender mulch]

Oh yeah

[lone pond]

My question

[tender mulch]

Absolutely

[lone pond]

is how do you cool a 5600x with a 212.

[chilly bison]

it is??

[lone pond]

Wouldn't that run hotter?

than a 3700x

[tender mulch]

no

[chilly bison]

ok i wasnt sure because ik the 3060 ti is a 180% increase in performance so i was sure if i should wait for a 3060 ti or a 3070

[rapid imp]

Yep. Costly, though.

[dawn plover]

if the 5600x can run with its stock cooler, it can def run with a 212

[lone pond]

Ah, maybe not taking into account boosts like racer said

lol

[spice mulch]

https://www.newegg.com/thermaltake-cl-f109-pl12bu-b-case-fan/p/N82E16835106633?Item=N82E16835106633 this one is less, but is it reliable and somewhat quiet?

[tender mulch]

Any of those will be good for 1080p and even 1440p

[chilly bison]

im mainly looking to up fps and to have bnetter performance while streaming?? getting a new gpu will help with streaming right?

[tender mulch]

Depends on what the issue you're having with streaming currently is

[lone pond]

3070 works fine for 1080p for me

but wouldn't recommend it

[tender mulch]

If your internet upload is only 10 mbps

New GPU won't help that

[lone pond]

^

[rapid imp]

Wait, I have to take it back.

CPU fans tend to max at 2000rpm, and the fans I linked go as far a 1500rpm.

[chilly bison]

like i cant even run apex smoothly while streaming

and thats when the graphics are set to like low

[rapid imp]

Gonna have to do a bit more research.

[tender mulch]

What are you using to stream and what settings?

If OBS< should be set to NVENC

To take the load off cpu

[chilly bison]

it is

but when i look in game bar still says both are being used 100%

[tender mulch]

This doesn't mean much. Fan blade shape and design affect it more than RPM

[tender mulch]

What CPU then

[rapid imp]

If that's the case, then there shouldn't be any performance qualms about going for either Corsair or Thermaltake fans.

[chilly bison]

i5 8600k

[tender mulch]

Oh

[rapid imp]

Either Newegg or Amazon have refund policies in place, in case the purchased fan don't work as expected.

[tender mulch]

Yeah, new GPU won't help with that much and streaming

[ripe ivy]

Is it only Apex you're having trouble streaming?

[lone pond]

i5 with what gpu?

[chilly bison]

any demanding game

[chilly bison]

1060

[lone pond]

...

[chilly bison]

its been 2 years since ive built my pc

[ripe ivy]

I think you're just lacking threads

[chilly bison]

thats what i thought too

will 8 threads make much of a diff?

[tender mulch]

Not threads

IPC and faster ram

[chilly bison]

IPC??

[tender mulch]

Instructions Per Clock

[ripe ivy]

Actually what speed is your RAM

[tender mulch]

How much work the CPU can do per cycle

[chilly bison]

oh

[tender mulch]

A new 10400F would even boost you up

[chilly bison]

i didnt know that existed

[lone pond]

[chilly bison]

i-

[tender mulch]

IPC is just a term for how much work the CPU can do per cycle

[chilly bison]

oh ok

[lone pond]

Overpriced

[tender mulch]

new cpu generations = more work per cycle

[severe isle]

Thread overhead ususally limits how much many threads can do. CPU cycles speed is usually more important

[lone pond]

unless tariffs affected, saw one for 1800

[chilly bison]

i was thinking maybe get a 10th gen i7 even tho that means i will have to get a new mobo

[tender mulch]

That'll definitely help

[chilly bison]

i still want a new gpu tho

aight guess that means i have to start waorking more to afford this

[dawn plover]

😳

[rapid imp]

checks newegg shuffle

An MSI non-RGB 3070 Ventus, an 3090 and a 6900. sigh Not today.

[round valve]

trying to get an ampere itx gpu, looks like my only options are an msi 3060 ti aero itx, a palit 3060 StormX, or a PNY 3060 ITX, which one should i aim for? it needs to b one of these bc my case can only fit a card that is specifically labeled as an ITX card with only one fan

[inland hound]

How long is the clearance in the case?

[stone wraith]

Omg evga 3060 ti coming soon

On best buy

[chilly bison]

wait it is

in all locations or just some?

[tender mulch]

They say that a good portion of the time

[stuck lynx]

they have a restock tomorrow

keep a lookout on the website

[chilly bison]

no way

[dreamy dragon]

msmash190#6808 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

[chilly bison]

i might need to stalk that

[stuck lynx]

yes

i have a scraper every min lol thats gonna text me

its been running for 2 weeks and not a single text 😦

[chilly bison]

damn

[chilly bison]

wait online restock or in store restock

[stuck lynx]

online only for FE, thats what im looking at

[chilly bison]

FE?

oh founders

[round valve]

i have like a 178mm clearance im p sure

[chilly bison]

actually about that

what is the diff between founders and a regualar

i never undertood that

[round valve]

like the gpu i have in it rn is a 2060 mini itx single fan and it barely fits

[stuck lynx]

founders is not OC'd, other cards are sometimes factory overclocked and have better cooling and design

[chilly bison]

so which ones better

founders or reg

[round valve]

founders is much better looking tho for the minimalist gamer

[tender mulch]

FOunders isn't OC'd but still boosts

[chilly bison]

how do u boost a card

[round valve]

eeg

eeg > egg

[twilit tide]

facts

[stuck lynx]

i wanna go founders for the price cause i have a sleeper build anyway lol

[chilly bison]

LMAO

[stuck lynx]

dell workstation case moment

[round valve]

id say go for it

it'll fit the aesthetic

[chilly bison]

thats whats on the first page of the website

[twilit tide]

should i go with rx 5600xt or rx 580?

[stuck lynx]

there are tools such as msi afterburner and evga precision that let u fiddle with clocks

[chilly bison]

oh ok

is that how i manually boost my cpu or is there something else for that

[stuck lynx]

thats different, usually cpu you have to go to the bios

[chilly bison]

well heres the thing

[stuck lynx]

ive never done that tho

[chilly bison]

my dumbass bios for some reason has only AI overclockiung

so ive never done it before

[tender mulch]

CPU will auto boost

[round valve]

honestly with the prices of all gpus spiked to the sky id wait for a current gen to get back in stock

6700xt is yet to be released too so

[twilit tide]

ok thanks

[round valve]

yeah you don't want to pay like 400-500 for a 5600xt just for a 6700xt to get released at around that price point

[stuck lynx]

@chilly bison hes right if you dont want to overclock your cpu will automatically maximize performance

[tender mulch]

If you want more, PBO is the setting you're looking for if AMD. Intel is SPeedstep but should already be on

[round valve]

sad times for builders

[chilly bison]

oh ok i mean oerclocking doesnt do much anyways

[stuck lynx]

yeah just depends on ur use case

[chilly bison]

yea fs

[stuck lynx]

honestly i could go for a quadro, i do a lot of ML

but theure f'ing expensive

[chilly bison]

ML?

[stuck lynx]

machine learning

[chilly bison]

oh

oh yea when i used to watch linus tech tips i used to see him use quardros and im like bruhhh what the hell are those things

[stuck lynx]

yeah haha theyre relatively unknown in the gaming community

[chilly bison]

i bet

oh wait i just remembered

titan cards are a thing

[stuck lynx]

c h o n k y

[chilly bison]

NEVER MIND

2500????

NAH

[inland hound]

For machine learning you might want a Tesla

[twilit tide]

I literally bought all of my parts in late 2020, build my whole system and found out that shipping had lost my gpu

I also build the whole system and it is just a brick on my table collecting dust

it was also at a fair price

i got a 5600xt for 300$

[inland hound]

Rip

That’s a good price for a 5600 XT right now too

[twilit tide]

yea

[tame swallow]

Does anybody know how to get a graphics card like a 3080? Anybody know when anything is getting restocked? I’m barely trying to build my pc and I’ve saved up my money for two years and everything’s out of stock. I’m also not falling for scalpers selling them at ridiculously high prices.

[round crown]

best buy

[dawn plover]

join the stock drops discord, enable push notifications to notify you that an item is available, wait for a good soul to tell us about a drop, participate in the newegg shuffle, etc

[tame swallow]

Ok sounds good. I’ll try that. Thank you

[drowsy mirage]

on one side im glad I got my 5700 xt when i did, but at the same time im sad that i got a very sad aib card

[burnt zodiac]

Whats the fps difference between EVGA FTW3 Ultra and the regular EVGA FTW3

[remote elbow]

I feel like a lotto winner now that I bought my 2070 on 9/17

back when best buy had them in stock

[ripe ivy]

Probably like 5%, as far as I know it's likely just higher binned and factory overclocked. Something you could likely achieve with the regular card. That's how it works out typically anyway

[rare hull]

I bought a low profile amd video card to finish my build , thx miners, scalpers and Nvidia 🙂

This GPU thing makes me want to RMA all my parts

[shadow forum]

Is the gigabyte vision OC

Good

[inland hound]

Which one?

3070, 3080, etc

@shadow forum

[shadow forum]

3090

[inland hound]

Oh

It should be good

Haven’t heard much about it

Check reviews on Newegg

[shadow forum]

Ok thanks

[candid marsh]

hey does anyone know when the radeon 5700xt any version will be back in stock?

[inland hound]

Why would you want one of those?

They aren’t made anymore btw

[candid marsh]

really?

[inland hound]

AFAIK

Yeah, cause new generation Radeon cards are out

[candid marsh]

got it how much do those cost

do u know?

[inland hound]

6800, 6800XT, 6900XT

[inland hound]

$429, $600, $1000 respectively

Iirc

[candid marsh]

ok thank u!

[elfin parrot]

wait

[inland hound]

6800 as powerful as 2080Ti

[elfin parrot]

so when new cards come out

[candid marsh]

got it

[elfin parrot]

others arent made anymore?

[inland hound]

Pretty much

Yeah

[elfin parrot]

thats so stupid

[inland hound]

Nah

[elfin parrot]

I mean it makes sense

[inland hound]

Not at all

[candid marsh]

what about the 3000 series do u know when those will be restocked

?

[inland hound]

Making old cards is just making a loss

Nothing more

Nothing less

[inland hound]

All the time

[elfin parrot]

sara

[inland hound]

Gotta be quick

[candid marsh]

ok

[elfin parrot]

you have 3070 right

[inland hound]

Yeah

[candid marsh]

how much is the 3070?

[elfin parrot]

you going to try for 3080?

[inland hound]

$500 MSRP

[inland hound]

Probably going to try and get 4080

[elfin parrot]

???

[inland hound]

3070 fine for now

[elfin parrot]

4080?

[inland hound]

Don’t need anything more

[candid marsh]

ok thanks u helped me a lot

[inland hound]

When it comes out in a year or two lol

[elfin parrot]

porb 2 years

because of chip shortage

[inland hound]

That’s not how that works but ok

[elfin parrot]

How do you know how it works

[inland hound]

Common sense

They are going to try and release the cards ASAP

So that they can make sales

On said cards

[elfin parrot]

No?

[inland hound]

Why spend the silicon on an old design when you can sell a better design that costs the same amount to make and sell

More marketing

More sales

Simple as that

Gotta make back all that R&D money somehow

[wicked hound]

lot of sales happen on a launch of new hardware

[inland hound]

Plus pre orders

If they are available

It’s in Nvidia’s best interest to make and sell a new design as soon as physically possible

[green harness]

You should check prices before quoting them Sara. 6800 msrp is 579, 6800xt is 650

Those are original amd-reference msrps too, not aib msrps or post-tariff msrps (reference AMD cards don't seem to be hit by tariff price increases anyway)

[inland hound]

Hence iirc

This phone is old and going out of discord and back in takes literally minutes

Thanks for correcting me though

@candid marsh

[green harness]

All good, definitely good advice to try to get a current gen card if possible over a 5700xt. Would be nice to have an AMD card in the 5700xt price bracket though

[inland hound]

Yeah

I very vividly remember the 6800 being announced for $429 tho

I musta been teleported to an alternate universe

Oh well

[green harness]

If only it was at that msrp and available

[lone pond]

Can confirm

she was in void

[hoary sleet]

So for the Newegg shuffle thing going on now. Are the cards sold at regular prices or are the costs still all jacked up?

[rapid imp]

The latter.

[hoary sleet]

Was eyeing putting in for the 3070, but the card is still $200 over msrp according to the details. Is that right?

[livid idol]

It's too late to enter today anyway

But yes prices are increased right now on retailers mostly due to tariffs, can't avoid that

There was some good stuff today too, 3090 Suprim and 6900XT

[hoary sleet]

Yeah I didnt see the notification till just now... 😦

[livid idol]

It's usually Mon-Thurs 10 AM to 1 PM (PST) for entry time, unless they don't do it for whatever reason one day

[hoary sleet]

Kinda surprised the tariffs are still standing. Figured such a mindless policy would have been wiped away quickly with the transition...

[livid idol]

I'm sure it's on the to-do list, but there's a lot that takes priority right now

[hoary sleet]

Ok will have to check back tomorrow. I have been trying to build my first rig in 15 years but because of the state of everything I want to start with the GPU if possible

[livid idol]

Smart move I think

CPU is easier to get right now

[hoary sleet]

Yeah, it is probably like 10th down on the list of priorities at least though seems like an easy one to get rid of for massive benefit.

Yup, I have seen 5000 chips about quite often

They are getting easier

to locate

[livid idol]

It's a bit more complicated than just a signature to do away with the tariffs, foreign relations are involved there and it needs to be approved by congess

[hoary sleet]

I believe they were implemented unilaterally without much thought. I know actually ridding of them would take time to work through, but it seems odd to not even have a statement on the state of them since many us industries (most moreso than the chip industry) are negatively impacted by the rising cost of materials

Ill stop on this rant though. This is the "GPU" channel and not the "American International Trade Policy" channel lol

[livid idol]

Yeah the ironic thing a lot of people don't understand is a country imposing the tariff is the only one hurt by the tariff, and the businesses and consumers pay the price.
The tariff war just seemed petty to me. No benefits on either side.

[hoary sleet]

Very petty. Not well thought out. and exceptionally irresponsible.

[lavish otter]

Eck, the output ports on my 1080 stopped working overnight

[elfin parrot]

prob just have to power cycle it

[livid idol]

Power drain the system (unplug and hold power button for a minute) and reseat the GPU just in case (remove from slot and reinsert)

[covert forge]

Dyk what companies are going to release the 3060 w Nvidia? Like MSI GIGABYTE AND ASUS

[tender mulch]

Not yet

Only no Founders Edition

[covert forge]

Ok is there any other sites I should have open for the release Ik alr newegg Best Buy and Nvidia

[tender mulch]

Popssibly the AIB's themselves

nVidia doesn't sell cards anymore

It's Best Buy only

And there are no Founders Eiditions for 3060

[covert forge]

K

[livid idol]

We can only speculate right now anyway, we'll know soon for sure

[covert forge]

K thx

[green harness]

A tariff rollback will quite likely have to be accompanied by negotiations with China, so it could take some time.

[green harness]

You could try for the evga 3060 notify queue. Might have to hit "notify" right when it opens though as many people are likely to hit notify within the first few minutes

[covert forge]

Ty will do

[lavish otter]

Nah, power cycling and reinserting and power draining the system did squat, the output is still borked

[livid idol]

All the ports stopped working? BIOS reset sometimes helps but something is weird here

Do you have another GPU to test?

[lavish otter]

Yes, both the hdmi's and dp don't work. I plugged in my 730 to check the cables and it works fine

[livid idol]

What about another power supply? It's ok if not just helps narrow down

[lavish otter]

I mean it worked yesterday on the power supply and there hasn't been any issues with it before on the psu

Plus I know it is on because the fans are spinning on the card

[livid idol]

That doesn't mean the card is getting enough power, it uses significantly more than a GT 730

PCIe slots give a certain amount of wattage that would be more than enough for a 730 but not even close to a 1070

[lavish otter]

Yeah, I know, that is why it shuts off when one of the pcie cords are unplughed

I'll try my other psu in a bit

[sullen sluice]

what yall think is better in price, performance and availability? 3060 or 6700xt?

[livid idol]

Nvidia has way more stock than AMD right now, AMD is focused on consoles

[sullen sluice]

ok thx

[ripe ivy]

The 6700XT isn't out yet, so we wouldn't know

[livid idol]

Rumors are still that it will have 'more than very limited' supply, which sounds like more than other AMD GPUs but still less than Nvidia

[lavish otter]

Yeah, it is a big nope on a different psu, the ports still don't work

Guess I'll just join in the hunt for a 3000 series gpu now

[stone wraith]

EVGA Nvidia 3060 ti better than its founder edition version?

[heady turtle]

They are all pretty similar not a big diff

[stone wraith]

ok

[inland hound]

Which EVGA card

[stone wraith]

this one is coming in stock tomorrow

[inland hound]

For half a second

But anyways

That one is better than FE

[stone wraith]

dont care im racing for this baby

i wont give up

[inland hound]

Better cooling, better factory overclock

Arguably looks nice

[stone wraith]

That explains the higher price

[inland hound]

But FE looks nice too

[stone wraith]

at what time do they drop?

ik its in morning

[inland hound]

Idk where you are even searching tbh

And idk where morning is for you because it’s always afternoon for me no matter the store

[stone wraith]

its afternoon for me aswell

im in central

time

[inland hound]

Oh

What store

Best Buy?

[stone wraith]

yes

cuz the gpu that i showed earlier is coming soon

so in the morning is when its most likely coming out

[inland hound]

No

BB drops around 7:30 usually

PM

Unless something changed

[stone wraith]

I see

[inland hound]

I would just keep your finger on the F5 key

[stone wraith]

indeed

[next leaf]

Finally gonna be getting a 2070 super

[green harness]

BB has dropped between 10:00 and noon est last I knew fwiw

[stone wraith]

God i swear if my bank declines my debit card when i finally managed to get the gpu in my cart

[faint hawk]

does anyone know a good rtx graphics card that isnt super expensive yet good at performance? I have recently tried to upgrade my old one but im not totally sure what I should buy, since my budget isn't over the roof.

[inland hound]

Any new RTX card

3000 series

[solar mist]

most GPUs are out of stock or overpriced, rn. What is your budget when you do buy?

[faint hawk]

anything ranging from under a thousand to 1200

[inland hound]

Huh

You could get a 3080

“Isn’t super expensive”

[solar mist]

you should get a 3080, but they are out of stock

[inland hound]

I thought you meant $300 or something lol

[inland hound]

Get one when they come out in stock

During the shuffle or a drop or whatever

[faint hawk]

I mean, If I could get something like that. then i can totally take that option

[inland hound]

What are you going to be playing?

[faint hawk]

Minecraft....... Not just minecraft, but cod, rocket league, games that are mostly graphics intense

[solar mist]

get a 3080 then, COD will utilize it.

[faint hawk]

3080 it is, if i can get hands on one

[inland hound]

COD utilizes CPU more

[solar mist]

...

[inland hound]

A better card won’t hurt

But still

[solar mist]

COD utilizes CPU more than GPU?

[inland hound]

A bit

It’s closer to Minecraft in terms of integrity of different parts apparently

[solar mist]

so get a 5950x, and a 1030 for best experience?

[inland hound]

Heh

It does take a bit of VRAM

But sure

Lol

Also 5900x 10% better than 5950x for gaming

[faint hawk]

but I think its funny how most people get an overkill graphics card just to run minecraft though

[inland hound]

Heh

Well

Minecraft RTX

[faint hawk]

it does look good. but Im sure there are some better shaders or something

[inland hound]

You have to pay for them

Seus is what they are called

Patreon money

[faint hawk]

yes, and thats why im mostly attracted towards free shaders. most of which are still good

[inland hound]

Optifine has some good shaders

[faint hawk]

I do have a shader installed. but my graphics card is chugging a bit more on fps lately. thats why i wanted to upgrade

[inland hound]

What card?

Also what size is your PSU

[jade notch]

Bruh 3080, 3070, 3060 it don’t matter, games gonna run subpar with no new drivers bruh

[inland hound]

Wdym

[jade notch]

I got a 3070 and it can’t even get past 140 on warzone

[inland hound]

What CPU do you have lol

And what settings

[jade notch]

I get 140 on my 1080ti

3700x

All low settings

1080p

[inland hound]

You see

The CPU does most of the work in Warzone

And even more work at 1080p

[jade notch]

Game is bad either way mane

[faint hawk]

A MSI GeForce GTX 1660. but i have been using it a lot though.

[jade notch]

Way too fat on storage and poorly optimized

[faint hawk]

and I bought it because on the low budget i had at the time

[inland hound]

1080Ti better than 3070 at 1080p, 3070 excels at 1440p and 4K

With that CPU on those settings

In that game

Which hasn’t even been confirmed

Also rule 9

[faint hawk]

what if you dont get it...?

[jade notch]

Nah we gotta hope

Hope is all we got

[inland hound]

Just gonna call @tender mulch rq

No need to speak

Just watch

How much did you sell your 3070 for

And why

[jade notch]

That’s not your right to know lmao

[faint hawk]

how do you even sell a 3070 for that low price though?

[tender mulch]

Dont

[dawn notch]

@jade notch ys it hurting u 2 know

[jade notch]

Idk scalpers flooded every corner

[dawn notch]

oh

[jade notch]

There’s no way to get anything good

[inland hound]

Ok but how does that hurt us to know if it’s already been sold

[jade notch]

I’m down bad

[inland hound]

Why did you sell your 3070 then lol

Still an amazing card

I would know

I have one

I get twice the FPS I did on my 5700 XT on some games

[faint hawk]

i need to get one, but they are out of stock....

[jade notch]

should wait till Thursday

New 3060 along with other cards

[faint hawk]

and getting one near black friday is impossible

[jade notch]

I’m gonna be chillin at micro center and checking Best Buy at the same time lol

[faint hawk]

either way. im going to get an rtx something.

[inland hound]

Why RTX specifically

[jade notch]

Probably for the features

I just got an RTX card for the broadcasting features tbh

[inland hound]

Doesn’t Warzone have Ray tracing now?

[faint hawk]

I like what it gives you. I like the ray tracing and I think it would be able to give a better gaming performance. although, gtx's are almost as good, I want the ray-tracing too

[inland hound]

Yeah that’s fair

And GTX is not almost as good

GTX is in the dust now

[jade notch]

1080 Ti is still better than a 3060

[inland hound]

That’s false but ok

[faint hawk]

well, i've never had a RTX to compare it to so, im probably wrong on everythin

[tender mulch]

Uh....maybe. Need benches to see

[faint hawk]

and plus my GTX cant run wallpaper engine and a game at the same time as well :/

[tender mulch]

Got nothing right now

[inland hound]

That’s fine. The only time anyone here is going to fault you for being wrong is if you are giving wrong advice to someone.

*coughs in @wanton edge *

[wanton edge]

BRUh

[inland hound]

You recommended someone an HD 7770 for 1080p gaming

That’s simply not OK

[wanton edge]

dude never asked for 1080p

[jade notch]

That’s f’ed up

[wanton edge]

smh

[jade notch]

Why would you do that

[inland hound]

You literally can’t buy a 720p monitor nowadays

It’s implied

[tender mulch]

Why recommend it period. Person actually bought it.

[livid idol]

I saw some 720p on the clearance aisle at walmart lol

They don't put the resolution on the box, only way to sell those

[covert forge]

Does Nvidia announce the companies that are going to sell the cards and if so when it’s my first GPU launch

[inland hound]

No

[covert forge]

Dam

[inland hound]

All their partners sell cards unless explicitly stated otherwise

[tender mulch]

Dunno where yet though

They been hush hush

[inland hound]

So Microcenter, Amazon, Newegg, Best Buy, and all the board partners that directly sell cards like Asus and EVGA, probably

[inland hound]

This is an assumption based on prior evidence

And common sense

So take it with a small grain of salt

A very small one

[covert forge]

Does asus make the best cards? Cause Ik they go with cooling

[inland hound]

‘Best’ is subject to a lot of opinions and specific workloads

[covert forge]

Gaming is what I’ll be doing

[inland hound]

EVGA has the best cooling and factory overclocks, and usually the best overclocking potential as well

But a lot of people shill for Asus because of their boards

[covert forge]

Ye

[velvet cloud]

So are these new 3060s that are about to drop worth it?

[lone pond]

I would say no

for a 70$ price diff i would take the 2080 super perf over something 2070 super perf or lower

Only for productivity really

[inland hound]

Yeah

Hey Mando

This is just a hypothetical question

I was looking at a coin earlier (either Raven or Doge, can’t remember, probably Raven) that only uses 3 gigs of VRAM to mine

Considering this fact, could I theoretically run 2 mining instances at once?

Or would it do it by itself?

Cause I know some coins need a lot of VRAM to run (like Cortex)

[runic beacon]

Is there any news on what time the 3060 will come out? And what I should do to get it?

[inland hound]

25th, camp your website of choice with the F5 button all day

[runic beacon]

f5?

[livid idol]

Do yourself a favor and don't mine doge

[runic beacon]

Im new to trying to get this stuff off drop.

[inland hound]

Wasn’t going to

I’m talking hypotheticals

[inland hound]

The key that refreshes a webpage

[runic beacon]

So its just at some random time they release?

[inland hound]

Probably around 10pm PST

But it could be random for all we know

[livid idol]

🤷‍♂️ Could be random to fight bots

Set times are good for bots

[stone wraith]

I hate botters. Ip trace them and send em to prison

[velvet cloud]

Should I invest in one of these for my gaming set up? I have no card right now lol

[stone wraith]

Yes

[inland hound]

You can try

Until you get that 3080

[velvet cloud]

Ok I didn't know if I should wait till I get a 3080 or better lol

[stone wraith]

3080's are extremely difficult to get

[velvet cloud]

Yup I know lol

Also what's people's opinions on the 6800x vs a 3080? If I'm able to get a radeon?

[stone wraith]

I would prob lose my sanity trying to get one on the process

[lone pond]

it will use 2 separate DAGs

so with 2 miners that take 4GB it will use 8GB

[inland hound]

Makes sense

[lone pond]

raven uses 4GB depending on the algorithm

[inland hound]

I guessed as much

[lone pond]

Gonna see if i can upgrade my internet

bandwidth is the only potential problem

for pool

[inland hound]

Speaking of

How is that pool coming along

[lone pond]

just need better internet then i'll do it

need to make software for it

pain in the ass

Otherwise i would need to manually payout

[inland hound]

You going to host it from your computer??

That’s risky

I would get something from that one German company

Can’t remember what they are called

Lili knows

[lone pond]

No

i have a server rack

[inland hound]

But from your internet, that’s kinda risky imo

[lone pond]

idc if i get DOSed

if i have better internet than the attacker i can eat it

DDOSing would cuck me though

[inland hound]

Yeah

[lone pond]

i'll just get a domain

for it

[inland hound]

I agree, that’s the best idea, along with something offsite

[lone pond]

puts more effort into trying to annoy me

[livid idol]

cough vpn cough

[inland hound]

For hosting a mining pool?

Idk man

[livid idol]

If you're worried about getting DDOS'd it's not a bad option, there's fast VPNs that offer static dedicated IP

[inland hound]

Static is the right word, no?

Either way, I would just get something offsite from Heitzner or whatever the name of that company way

[livid idol]

Static would mean it can be shared with other users, dedicated is yours and yours alone, good for servers

[covert forge]

This guy made a video saying that the 3060 prices were leaked they are CRAZY expensive I’ll send the link

https://youtu.be/ibvk_Nfyses

[livid idol]

Eh, leaks

[covert forge]

Just watch the video and see what u think I want a second opinion pls

[coarse spindle]

Obscure gpu of the day

The nvidia 8917

(Going through my GPU collection)

[covert forge]

Must be nice having one 🥲🥲🥲 I’m litterally missing the gpu in my build

[inland hound]

Lmao

[inland hound]

It probably doesn’t even work anymore

[coarse spindle]

What even is this