graphics-cards

[tepid zodiac]

Oh yea! Always forget about the king pin cards

[lone pond]

Can someone explain to me the whole Chinese tariff 25% increase thing?

[tepid zodiac]

Importing parts gets pricey er and harder = companies make price go up. I think...

[lone pond]

Yeah but like it hasnt been like that so why now

Was there a specific reason?

[tepid zodiac]

Lol I should know this, it was all in a tech news video from techlinked I think. Lol one of the linus tech tips branch channels

[lone pond]

oh ok thanks

[tepid zodiac]

Np, I think it was that a trading contract expired or something

[random walrus]

there was a tariff exemption made a while ago for various tech items, one of which was GPUs, and it recently expired.

[wicked hound]

@tepid zodiac ventus is basically worst card, avoid it

[tepid zodiac]

Thx for advice. May I ask whyM

Why?*

[wicked hound]

poor power limit, poor cooler, poor PCB, MSI as a company sucks, also bad warranty process

I dont know if there is a single good thing about it other then "it's a 3090"

[tepid zodiac]

Oof, ill use that advice thx! Never has an msi gpu. Only gigabyte and now pny. I do have two msi monitors, they are amazing. 240hz, 1ms, no complaints there

[lavish otter]

I dunno, I rather like my MSI laptop

Warranties from them do usually suck though

[random walrus]

msi has some... bad practices lets say

[wicked hound]

MSI monitors are quite nice for being cheap. Warranty is still, eh. Dislike that you need "x amount of clusters of dead pixels" to return it

MSI laptops are okay. Tho, I havent seen much in terms of them being actually great. Just okay

[tepid zodiac]

Yea, I mainly got them for the features and price. I've never heard bad things about msi until now tho. I'm sure there are plenty of bad things about any company lol. Not disagreeing, just stating my knowledge...

[lavish otter]

Better than my experiences with HP, it hasn't blown up on me yet

[wicked hound]

but yeah, I do have two UW-QHD MSI monitors for my PC. For the price, very good

[warm meteor]

Kind of off topic but not, does anyone know if nextwarehouse is legit? Seems they have stock/pre-order ability

[wicked hound]

HP is garbage for almost all consumer stuff apart from a few things. Tho professional stuff is good for them.

[random walrus]

https://www.bbb.org/us/ca/tustin/profile/computer-parts/nextwarehouse-inc-1126-100020780/customer-reviews

[brisk flame]

HPE makes me pog out of my mind

everything else HP is literal dog 💩

like actually

[wicked hound]

Only good HP thing I know is 920/950 (SSDs)

[lavish otter]

Yeah, I know now, but this was like, 7 years ago and back then "I was just in the mindset of eh, it is just a laptop, don' care"

[brisk flame]

yeah until the hinges fall apart

[warm meteor]

Appreciate that!

[random walrus]

yeah looks like a no go

[lavish otter]

I cared a year later when the hard drive literally exploded, somehow

[warm meteor]

It was to good to be true

[random walrus]

yeah lol

[wicked hound]

All companies have their issues. Tho MSI is a bit up there on not being nice. If ya want to see what I mean, look at GN's "MSI killshot" video

[tepid zodiac]

Ima need a laptop in a year, and this is off channel topic but... what's a good laptop brand?

[wicked hound]

for that

[brisk flame]

lenovo generally has the best super cheap stuff

but eventually if you pay enough, brand is irrelevant

[tepid zodiac]

1.5 to 2k price budget

[brisk flame]

yeah brand doesnt really matter at that point

[tepid zodiac]

Makes sense

[wicked hound]

G14 or G15, whatever it was, good 1.5k laptop

[brisk flame]

the newer asus rog laptops are pretty good

the zepherus lineup

[jaunty mango]

hey @tender mulch

hey @crisp ocean

[crisp ocean]

whats up

[jaunty mango]

so my driver crashes are gone

but in modern warfare

i get a directX error

but in other games

i get what i can only guess is a direct3D error

lemme go recreate the error real quick

[crisp ocean]

Alr

[jaunty mango]

another thing i can emulate wii u using vulkan and its runs at full speed most of the time

no problem

openGL kinda worked but didnt have great performance

[lone pond]

opengl kinda sucks imo
for emulation that is.

[jaunty mango]

yea i was just using it for comparison

[lone pond]

ah, yeah
you should awlays choose vulkan for emulation

also dolphin emulator?

[jaunty mango]

no cemu i was using wii u

[lone pond]

ah alright

[jaunty mango]

worked semi-flawlessly no crashes no errors

[lone pond]

nice

[jaunty mango]

ok here is the error

this also happens on csgo

[lone pond]

still waiting for my PC to play PS2 and gamecube games
along with AAA games aswell

[jaunty mango]

yep lol

i tried searching that error on google and got stuff related to image sharpening

for nvidea

[frank yoke]

I found a 1070 for 200 dollars is that a good idea?

[coarse spindle]

Hmm that is a pretty good deal

[frank yoke]

ok

[coarse spindle]

I would say go for it.

[jaunty mango]

yea my error seems to be related to direct3D just based on the title of the window

[thorn kestrel]

Whats a good graphics card below $400?

[lone pond]

with cards going out of stock
prices skyrising
and import tarrifs on GPUs

currently is none to be honest.

plus 3050 and 3060 gonna come soon and they might be a decent choice though

[coarse spindle]

That sounds about right, i would wait

But if u can find a used 1080ti for 400 maybe

I would at least think about it

[lone pond]

1080 ti for 400$ is alot tho

[coarse spindle]

Its about where a nice one is now

[lone pond]

used market might offer a good option though for cards

[coarse spindle]

I have to ask- r3 2100 or i3 2100?

@lone pond

[lone pond]

wdym? there is only one cpu with 2100 lol

that is the i3 2100

[coarse spindle]

Uuh

I am an idiot nvm

[lone pond]

ryzen 3 2xxx only goes for 2200g and 2300x

[coarse spindle]

There are a lot of names that line up lol

[lone pond]

ye

[coarse spindle]

Rx580 and gtx580 prob my favorite

[lone pond]

only the 3rd gen have "x100"

[coarse spindle]

Ooh

Ok so at least i am not that far off

[lone pond]

2nd and 1st gen is x200g and x300X

[coarse spindle]

Ok, good to know

[lone pond]

oh 1st gen also x200

non g

[thorn kestrel]

So the best thing to do is wait?

[icy cove]

is it bad to give in and spend $800 on a 3070 through ebay

[tender mulch]

yes

[icy cove]

yeah

[jaunty mango]

ok so i compiled my list of problems into one long post i put on reddit to get input

here it is for anyone who wants to help

So about a week or 2 ago I got my new Ryzen 5 3400G for my pc and i booted up a fresh copy of windows and installed all the appropriate drivers and my driver host application would at random particularly when playing games would crash and sometimes just shut off completely no error or bsod so at first I thought it was overheating due to the not so good stock cooler but after DDU and rolling back drivers the rebooting stopped but driver crashes continues so after the second and third driver rollback now I'm at this point where drivers don't crash but now in basically every game I get a DirectX or Direct3D error and game crashes so idk what to do or what's wrong
Specs
CPU: Ryzen 5 3400G
RAM: 16gb 3000Mhz Gskill Aegis CL16 2 * 8gb sticks
GPU: Integrated Radeon Vega 11
VRAM: I manually allocated 4gigs of ram for the vega 11 in the bios
PSU: EVGA W1 600W 80+
Cooler: Stock one Thats comes with the 3400G
Problems That i have faced although i will say which ones are solved
AMD Driver Host Application Crashing(Solved)
Random Shutting off (Solved)
DirectX Error While trying to load warzone(Not Solved): Here is the error
"DEV ERROR 6068
DirectX has encountered and unrecoverable error"
Direct3D Error when playing games like GTA V, CSGO, and others(Not Solved): Here is the error
"Failed Initialization. Please Reboot and Restart Game. Try Reinstalling the Game if this Persists"
Very Occasional BSOD With The Error code "THREAD_STUCK_IN_DRIVER"
Been at this for 3 Days now and do not know why all this is happening any input is appreciated
What ive Done so far
DDU and reinstall drivers
Rollback Drivers all the way back to the first driver release for my APU
Allocated 4gigs of VRAM instead of 2 this was to try to fix warzone

[thorn kestrel]

Should I just buy a 1080 ti? The way these prices are going up is insane and almost everything is out of stock.

[lean flicker]

my friends gigabyte rtx 2070 suddenly stopped working one day

the lights stay on but the fans dont spin

[hidden carbon]

power issue?

[lean flicker]

maybe

but it worked fine before

[hidden carbon]

well cards become more power hungryt the older they get

[lean flicker]

his 960 works

he has 650w

[hidden carbon]

he should be fine

might just be a connection problem

try removing and re installing it

[lean flicker]

he did that already

[hidden carbon]

if that doesnt work

reset bios

[lean flicker]

what if that doesnt work

[hidden carbon]

mihght be the motherboard

[lean flicker]

how

[hidden carbon]

or the cards just defectivbe

[lean flicker]

his 960 works on it so i dont think its motherboard

[hidden carbon]

just try a bios reset and then if it still doesnt work u can sya the cards broken

[lean flicker]

he contacted gigabyte

they said he has to mail the entire computer with the gpu isntalled

[hidden carbon]

pls dont do that

unless he cant do it

a reswet

[lean flicker]

he doesnt want to ship his whole pc lol

hes nothing without it

[hidden carbon]

wwdo the reset then

it takes likke 2 mins

[lean flicker]

ok

how tho

theres no display either

[hidden carbon]

doesnt matter

you can do it without the PC on

[lean flicker]

how

[hidden carbon]

you have to short 2 pins

or remove a battery

every mobo is different

look up how to do it to that model

[lean flicker]

can he do it with his other gpu in

he has a 8700k

[hidden carbon]

dude its really simple to just hold a screwdriver to 2 pins for 10 seconds

[lean flicker]

do u do the bios reset while the gpu is plugged in and stuff

the 2070

[hidden carbon]

unplug the PC

thats it

then

look up how to reset bios for tyhat motherboard specifivally

[lean flicker]

ok

so no gpu connected?

just to be clear

[hidden carbon]

no just leave it plugged in all normal

and unplug the PC

like the main power cabel

thats it

the

turn off power supply

[lean flicker]

unplug the cord to powersupply?

[hidden carbon]

and then follow the steps to reset bios FOR THAT MOTHERPORD MODEl

[hidden carbon]

thew one that goes from wall the powersupple

[lean flicker]

is that it

[hidden carbon]

is what it

[lean flicker]

no more stuff/

?

[hidden carbon]

well idk what mnobo he has

so

you have to do some reserach

[lean flicker]

ok

[lime mica]

why is a gtx 1660 super priced at 530$

[lone pond]

lol because its out of stock

[coarse spindle]

Like a 980 ti is better and half the price lol

[oak glen]

I am trying to decide FE or Asus Tuf for a 3000 series card. What are the main differences?

[round crown]

not much, go compare the two on pcpp

[tender mulch]

TUF has better cooling and will overclock more

TUF 3070 was the top overclocker over the EVGA

[opal anvil]

what 3080 would be best if your plan is to custom watercool it?

[tender mulch]

EK makes blocks for most of them

Pick one that overclocks well, probably EVGA or ASUS tuf

[opal anvil]

ok I was learning toward ASUS TUF mostly because I have never had a problem with ASUS but I have never owned anything made by EVGA

I hear a lot good about them

[tender mulch]

EVGA is the nVidia king IMO. Always good cards, after support is fantastic and so is the warranty

But get which you like. EK makes blocks for all of them looks like

https://www.ekwb.com/custom-loop/quantum-vector-geforce-rtx-30-series/

[opal anvil]

out of curiosity I saw a 3080 drop on newegg this morning that was by brand MANLI? Has anyone heard of them before?

[tender mulch]

Never heard of that

I would not if you're planning to waterblock it

Probably void their warranty

EVGA doesn't care

[opal anvil]

yeah me either, says ships from latvia - I won't buy a brand I don't know, was just curious. It says the card ships from Latvia

https://www.newegg.com/p/1FT-009H-00003

[tender mulch]

Ah, they're a mining card company

[lone pond]

they have alot of 16xx, 20xx and 30xx on their websites

along with LP 1650

[tender mulch]

Yeah, they specialize in GPU's for mining

If you're going to remove stock cooler and install a waterblock, I know EVGA doesn't care and will still warranty it. I'm not sure about the others

[opal anvil]

kind of funny their website takes like 40 seconds to load and the first thing you see is "This is what performance looks like"

I liked the ASUS because they used 6 of the good caps compared to others using 1 or 2

[tender mulch]

The cap debacle really wasn't a big issue once more info came out

[opal anvil]

not sure if that still matters or not - not like I am having any luck getting a card regardless

[tender mulch]

Yeah, it's rough right now

Newegg monday-thursday 7:30 PM EST

Best Buy the 19th, another big drop

[opal anvil]

that's what I hear

[tender mulch]

9AM-12PM

Most likely around 11 AM EST

[opal anvil]

appreciate the info.

[patent cradle]

.

[karmic crag]

why do different variants of graphics cards have drastically different prices?

one model of the 3060 $399 and another is $530

[tender mulch]

Because people will pay for a little extra clock instead of doing it themselves

Probably because of import taxes

FE is exempt I believe because made in Tawain

WHile others are made in China and subject to higher Tariffs

[karmic crag]

hm okay

thanks

[queen belfry]

anyone know if theres a water block for a 3070

i cant find one

only for 3080s and 3090s but i dont want to spend that much

[tender mulch]

https://www.ekwb.com/shop/quantum/gpu-cooling/gpu-water-blocks/geforce-rtx-30x0-series?p=2

late January 2021

[queen belfry]

dang. thats alright, i couldnt find one lol

thanks!!

[tender mulch]

YW

[jaunty mango]

Hey @tender mulch

[tender mulch]

?

[jaunty mango]

So because most of my problems are graphics related if I got say a rx580 down the line would that solve most of my problems if the rx580 works properly

[tender mulch]

I don't remember all your issues, drivers?

Integrated?

[jaunty mango]

Drivers were mostly fixed

[tender mulch]

Is this the iGPU that crashes in warzone?

[jaunty mango]

That and any game

Giving me either directX or Direct3D errors

[tender mulch]

Ah

[jaunty mango]

Or a new one that popped up in battlefield 3 also related to direct X

[tender mulch]

I mean, it seems like a software issue to me

Some installation got messed up somewhere or something is causing issues.

[jaunty mango]

Today I’ll run dxdiag and look through that

[tender mulch]

Probs won't find anything but hard to say. If it were me, I'd DDU everything and start over again. Uninstall any kind of "graphics booster" software and check the AMD Catalyst center for any kind of "game" or GPU "enhancement".

Actually

Just uninstall the Catalyst center and leave the driver

[jaunty mango]

There is no catalyst it’s just the Radeon software or “Adrenalin” which is installed along with the driver

[tender mulch]

Ah, they changed the name

I would uninstall that and just leave the driver

[jaunty mango]

Ok

Ok software is uninstalled

Restarting

Ok lemme try modern warfare then I’ll try GTA v

Modern warfare wigged put it didnt crash per say

Just became clear and I couldn’t tab out of it

Gonna try GTA v

Hey so you know how I manually allocated 4gigs of vram for modern warfare

[tender mulch]

Ye?

[jaunty mango]

GTA only shows 2gigs or vram

[tender mulch]

Probably all it's using

[jaunty mango]

Weird

[tender mulch]

Depends on resolution

as to how much it will allocate

[solar mist]

^ what does the in game settings say?

[jaunty mango]

its only showning it can use 2gigs of vram when i allocated in the bios 4 gigs

[lone pond]

rx 580 will be bottlenecked tho by your...2200g? 3200g?

[jaunty mango]

3400G

[lone pond]

ah

bottleneck because 1x8 pcie lane

[jaunty mango]

the 3400G would bottleneck the rx580?

[tender mulch]

Bottlenecking....you'd be surprised.

X16 vs X8 doesn't make much difference TBH

[lone pond]

ye but that wouldn't be a big issue lol

[jaunty mango]

i was just hoping that maybe if i just sucked it up and got a dGPU my problems would mostly go away

[lone pond]

you can awlays cranck up the graphics

[tender mulch]

They probably will go away

[jaunty mango]

k

[lone pond]

if you find a 580 for a good price tho

[jaunty mango]

also gtav crashed with same direct3D error as before

[lone pond]

like a used 580 for 80-110
should be worth

[jaunty mango]

i remember when i was originally looking at buying a pc and i made one on pcpartpicker for $700 and i found a XFX RX 580 for like $200 but if they are costing closer to $100 now getting a GPU would definitly be viable

[lone pond]

new 580? hell no

don't

look for a used

[jaunty mango]

thats what i was about to ask

[lone pond]

you might find a decent deal for a used 570/580 however

[jaunty mango]

any particular site i should use

[lone pond]

ebay, facebook marketplace

make sure to avoid the Rx 570 and 580 armor though

most of them are MK1 and armor mk1 have a bad VRM cooling

[jaunty mango]

bruh right as you said that i scrollled over this listing

[lone pond]

[tender mulch]

2 days left

It won't stay that low for long lol

[jaunty mango]

yep

[lone pond]

also ye, thats a bid tho

[tender mulch]

Highly doubt you'll find a reasonably priced Buy It Now

[jaunty mango]

what about this one

[lone pond]

nice

thats actually a really good card

sapphire nitro

[jaunty mango]

intersting

is it sketchy that seller doesnt accept returns

[lone pond]

generally sapphire nitro and red devil are the best for 5xx

also ye...is there any reviews?

[jaunty mango]

not that i can see

[lone pond]

is the seller atleast have some rep? i wouldn't trust it if the seller doesn't have reviews or don't accept returns

[jaunty mango]

where would i see "rep"

[lone pond]

is it on ebay?

[jaunty mango]

yes

[lone pond]

actually i only used ebay for mobile

idk how it is on desktop

[jaunty mango]

well he has no feedback ratings at all

and the graphics card is the first item hes sold on ebay

found another one from what i can tell has alot of "rep"

name is interesting though

seems to have alot of rep

[gaunt umbra]

yo i think i might need some help, i need a new video card and i think my eyes are set on an msi 1050ti 4gb, but i wanna see what yall think, considering i havent looked into hardware in about 4/5 years. im running an i5-4690k with 24gb ddr3 ram, the motherboard is an asrock z97 anniversary edition, n i have a evga gtx 960 ssc 2gb

[tender mulch]

Well, bad news

[gaunt umbra]

what is it

[tender mulch]

The 960 is faster than the 1050TI

[gaunt umbra]

yeah but my problem is that i dont have enough vram

thats the only thing im looking at lmao

[round crown]

then get a 1060

or a 1070

[tender mulch]

6GB 1060

Or better

[round crown]

mm

[tender mulch]

make the upgrade worth your while

[gaunt umbra]

how much do those go for usually

[tender mulch]

Right now? Silly money

[gaunt umbra]

like

dirt?\

[tender mulch]

Like, hundreds over MSRP

[gaunt umbra]

oh ic

[tender mulch]

new or used

[frank yoke]

Im trying to buy a 1070 founders for 200 rn

[gaunt umbra]

oh damn

[tender mulch]

Yeah, this is a bad time to be GPU shopping

[frank yoke]

yeah i checked offerup

[gaunt umbra]

true

[frank yoke]

yeah for sure

[tender mulch]

I'd honestly wait until after next week when new products are announced

[gaunt umbra]

oh wait hold on

[tender mulch]

Might be some juicy $200-$300 new cards announced

[gaunt umbra]

ok

heres an iffy thing

[tender mulch]

At CES

[gaunt umbra]

i still run win7

[frank yoke]

I was originally going for a 1650 super then they disappeared ☠️

[gaunt umbra]

is that

a problem

[jaunty mango]

lol windows 7

[gaunt umbra]

yeah

[jaunty mango]

damn

[tender mulch]

I don't know that card manus are making drivers for that anymore

I kinda doubt

[gaunt umbra]

i mean i still get driver updates for my card

[tender mulch]

Huh

1660 still has updates for 7

[gaunt umbra]

i just wouldnt be able to utilize the dx12 on the card

[tender mulch]

3000 series does too

Looks like you're in business

[gaunt umbra]

sick

[round crown]

you can upgrade to win 10 for free

[gaunt umbra]

yeah

but do i want to?

not really

[round crown]

well thats ur choice

[gaunt umbra]

yee

idk i just would rather not have spyware disguised as an os

even tho thats pretty like

dumb

[tender mulch]

Actually

The free upgrade period ended

a while ago

[gaunt umbra]

i still have it

[round crown]

well it did end

but it still works

[gaunt umbra]

theres a button on my control panel still

the anytime upgrade or whatever

[tender mulch]

I mean, it's no more spyware than Windows 7 was

[gaunt umbra]

i mean

[tender mulch]

🤷

[round crown]

it ended in 2018 but still works

or maybe it was 2016 idk

[gaunt umbra]

win7 never forced edge on your taskbar if you made any changes to windows

[tender mulch]

still works?

Interesting

[round crown]

mm

as long as you still have ur win 7 key

[tender mulch]

I don't have Edge forced on my task bar......

[dreamy dragon]

chef#7642 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

[gaunt umbra]

oops

[frank yoke]

lul

[gaunt umbra]

i have win10 on my laptop and that happens to me alot

[tender mulch]

Like, I removed the icon ages ago and it's perm gone

[gaunt umbra]

idk edge cant be uninstalled on my laptop

id rather not have my desktop be the same

thats jus me tho

[jaunty mango]

why not use linux?

[gaunt umbra]

honestly

im just too lazy to set up a bunch of vms for different things

[jaunty mango]

proton and wine can get you through most apps

[gaunt umbra]

i mean not a bunch

but

its literally just laziness

and the fact that most programs arent compatible with linux

atleast the things i use

so id just have to use a vm which isnt rlly a big deal, but im also too lazy to make a reliable setup to do all that with

like gaming, music, all that jazz

like i might someday, but for now im comfy where im at

[jaunty mango]

on ubuntu appstore ther is a app that allows you to instantly have a windows 10 kvm no setup

just works

[gaunt umbra]

thats whack

not sketchy???

[jaunty mango]

i mean i used

it

[gaunt umbra]

huh

[jaunty mango]

worked just fine

although

you wont get much performance which is what proton is for gaming

[gaunt umbra]

right

[jaunty mango]

unless you go edit the kvm specs your self

which is a little hassle

but for music and some other stuff its not a problem

[gaunt umbra]

for sure

again, im mainly just lazy

and honestly like im not too much of a software person, and setting up linux to do all the things i'd want it to do seems rlly time consuming, n i have little to no experience with linux so

[jaunty mango]

neither do i i got most of my experience because i got a raspberry Pi

[gaunt umbra]

ahhh

i see

[jaunty mango]

i wonder

if i just straight ddu and dont install anything amd

besides the motherboard chipset driver

what would happen

im gonna try that

[jaunty mango]

ok i can offically say its not the display driver causing the errors

[cloud juniper]

IM ALIVE ANd i zip tied a CPU cooler to my GPu!!!

Hol up Shi...

IT DIDNT WORK

[jaunty mango]

hmm i wonder why

[cloud juniper]

well i had a complete fan failure so

i had to do something

[jaunty mango]

HMMMM

[cloud juniper]

welp here we go again toodles guys

[jaunty mango]

bye lol good luck

[cloud juniper]

now im back and waiting for msi afterburner to start

AH SHI!! IT WORKS

IM IMPRESSED

AND PROUD OF MYSELF
'

:)))

YES

[candid kindle]

anyone able to help me find a 3070 in stock. I have money but this is a joke. ive been trying to get it since release

[tender mulch]

There aren't any right now

[cloud juniper]

have fun with that, that aint gonna happen

[tender mulch]

Best bets

Best Buy 19th, 9AM -12PM EST

Newegg restock

Monday -Thursday 7:30 PM EST

[cloud juniper]

the 4000 series will be out before anyone even gets to touch a 3000

[candid kindle]

yeah nevermind it aint gonna happen. forgot nvida sold to bitcoin miners PogU

[tender mulch]

I got mine Tuesday from BB

It can be done

No bot, be ready on the 19th at about 11 AM EST. They stockpile and do huge drops

[candid kindle]

thanks for the info

[cloud juniper]

wait what price does bestbuy sell 3000's for?

[tender mulch]

MSRP

Same as everyone else

[cloud juniper]

just straight MSRP with absolutly no markup?

[tender mulch]

I got mine before the Tariff took effect

The reason prices went up is due to the Import Tariff exemption expiring

Taxes went up

Therefor, manufacturers raise MSRP

They ain't gonna pay the higher tax, we are

Some, like the FE cards, are made in Taiwan, so not subject to the tax

https://www.pcmag.com/news/prices-for-graphics-cards-and-motherboards-go-up-as-us-tariffs-kick-back

[cloud juniper]

First gen jankyness failure

2nd gen jank success!

[lean flicker]

my friends gigabyte rtx 2070 doesnt work

no display

lights on

[cloud juniper]

i have a TITAN Z that does that

try throwing it into the oven or something

[tender mulch]

Tried all the ports?

[lean flicker]

stopped working after he left it on overnight

yea he tried everything

[cloud juniper]

was it under load?

[lean flicker]

forums

[tender mulch]

Is it EVGA brand?

[lean flicker]

i dont think so

[tender mulch]

3 year warranty

[lean flicker]

its gigabyte

[tender mulch]

3 year warranty

I would RMA if it died

It shouldn't die just because it was left on overnight though

My PC is 24/7/365 and just fine

[cloud juniper]

i treat all my cards like mining cards so there under 100% load like 95% of the time

[frigid crypt]

Alright boys, so Best Buy on the 12th?

[tender mulch]

19th

Bi-weekly

[frigid crypt]

Oh even better, more time to save up

[hallow palm]

Best buy drop on 19th you say?

[tender mulch]

Ye

[warm meteor]

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B08HR3Y5GQ/ref=ox_sc_act_title_1?smid=A33TB6JVOMNYYJ&psc=1

Dropping this one, prices are inflated direct from Amazon, but looks like you can place a pre-order

[tender mulch]

not really inflated, tariffs have taken their hold.

Therefor MSRP's have gone up

By up to 25%

😦

[warm meteor]

Ouch!! I just saw the post you shared. Good to know it's not a scalper price. I can at least justify the cost going to manufactures

[tender mulch]

Yep

All the MSRPs went up except Founders I think

Founders are made in Taiwan and I presume exempt

[warm meteor]

It's madness! Comes at like the worst possible time for most people

[jaunty mango]

hey whats best bang for buck used graphics cards that wont be bottlenekced by my ryzen 5 3400G right now so far the ones in my budget of max $275 are: RX580, RX570,RX 5500XT, GTX 1050TI, GTX 1060 6GB, and GTX 1650/1650 SUPER

[frank yoke]

I found 2 1070s for 200 dollars

one was founders for 225

on offerup

lul

[tender mulch]

Blower fan is oof tho

[novel palm]

was the best buy pickup location not available a bug on the rtx 3060
ti launch day?

and would i be able to buy a 3060 ti fe the next drop if i got that message on launch day

[tender mulch]

Don't wait for a message

Just be there for the drop with F5 handy and click through locations fast

And one you click Add to Cart and it changes to please wait, DON'T REFRESH. Just wait

[hybrid kettle]

Oh I didn’t know you weren’t supposed to refresh dang

I probably would of gotten one then

[coarse spindle]

i just booted windows 10 on a 1996 GPU somehow

2mb be popping

[forest quest]

idk go with the gtx 1650 super if you can, even if there is bottleneck you can always upgrade your cpu down the road. for future if you're going to go with discrete graphics dont purchase G processors grab a budget ryzen 3 3100 prob best bang for buck

[forest quest]

wouldnt trust pick up just get it delivered free shipping anyways and at least then you know the gpu has been set aside for you

[lavish otter]

You want a gig of ddr ram? I've got some kicking around

[lone pond]

rx 580/570 are excelent cards if you find it around 100$ or less
5500xt and 1650 super are ok cards but their price is kinda eh...
though they do have better power cosumption and they are new aswell.
do not buy a 1050 ti/1650
1060 6gb is also great card but only worth if you find for a good price
also 1660/1660 super is also a option for you budget(if you find it for 200-250$
you also have a option to wait till the 3050 release aswell or wait till the gpu market is stable

[lone pond]

nice.

[rocky geode]

wheres the damn GPUs 😡

[gritty notch]

https://tenor.com/view/thanos-gone-reduced-to-atoms-end-game-infinity-war-gif-15573921

[rocky geode]

literally i can only find 3070s for 700

and 3090s for 2100

nothing in between

[random walrus]

Thanks to tariffs and scalpers that's pretty much how the market is rn

[lone pond]

its ridiculous, ive been trying to get a 3080 for under 900 for almost 2 months, checking every day

[fallow vortex]

I feel you man

[ancient crystal]

i got an RX 5600 XT before the market went crazy

then i realized i had a 6GB card

[lone pond]

nvidia moment

5600 xt kinda had a bad launch tho

[flint sphinx]

Lucky we got a 3060ti for 500 with tax. Kinda glad. The stock just went up and got my hands on one. Still up there but I mean I guess if I pay for the msi one thats what im getting. They had the other one for 400 but I rather spend the extra 100 just for the cooling

[onyx drum]

Would anyone be able to tell me if my 750W PSU is handling the rtx 3070? - trying to figure out why game crashes and restarts pc

[buoyant wigeon]

what CPU do you have @onyx drum ?

[onyx drum]

5600x @buoyant wigeon

[hearty adder]

im planning on getting a 3070 with a 750 psu too

so i would like to know aswell

cpu i got is 3700x

[gritty notch]

it depends on the psu

is all i kmow

[onyx drum]

vintage said power wise I'm fine

[hearty adder]

corsair rmx 750

[buoyant wigeon]

which 3070 is it @onyx drum

[hearty adder]

is what i want to buy

[onyx drum]

I reinstalled windows last night, currently running haven to see if I'll crash

asus tuf gaming OC @buoyant wigeon

750w evga gold g3 80+

[buoyant wigeon]

don't buy something made by a company that doesn't do PSU's @hearty adder I recommend EVGA just because I have been rocking PSU's from them for awhile

[hearty adder]

@buoyant wigeon then any recommendations? on ones that will be good with a 3070 and a ryzen 7 3700x?

ik cpu aint that good for the 3070 but still

thats my build

[onyx drum]

i'm not sure if the 3070 drivers are still buggy, if it is you might even want to hold off on it

because it's annoying crashing in games (that's why I'm here)

[hearty adder]

fair enough XD

cause my new build is coming together

and

i want a gpu but cant find a gpu that has a fair price

better than 1060

[buoyant wigeon]

so @onyx drum when looking at it I think it might be either a driver instability or another issue unrelated to the PSU because PCpartpicker says those two parts minus anything else take 285W or something

@hearty adder your power supply should handle it like a champ, just watch out for if it is in eco mode as that has caused issues for me in the past

[tender mulch]

TOB is good, GPU-z reports no voltage sag or other issues

Heaven completes with no crashes, game time now

[hearty adder]

which one the corsair?

[buoyant wigeon]

your EVGA one

[tender mulch]

Corsair RM is great

run with it

[hearty adder]

is there an evga gold certified that has a range price of 100-130?

[buoyant wigeon]

:monkaHmm:

[hearty adder]

im very conflicted rn XD @buoyant wigeon says evga and @tender mulch says corsair

well

[dreamy dragon]

TOHRU IS BEST GIRL#0001 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

[hearty adder]

idk

with what to go

[tender mulch]

You have the RMX yeah?

[hearty adder]

nope

[tender mulch]

It also depends on the EVGA model

[hearty adder]

gonna buy

a new

psu

mine is dead

[tender mulch]

Eh, Corsair RMX is top notch

EVGA depends on the model

[buoyant wigeon]

EVGA is also up there of course depending on the generation and efficiency rating

[onyx drum]

currently running haven about 10 minutes in, I'll report back with results later

[tender mulch]

efficiency rating is not an indicator of quality

[buoyant wigeon]

over longer gaming sessions it has been a make or break for me in the past but it doesn't help I was using some old Antec PSU before my now EVGA one

[hearty adder]

So the verdict?

😂

[tender mulch]

Corsair RMX

The first one you picked

[onyx drum]

Maybe decide after my crashing results if you’re debating on the 3070

[tender mulch]

Or Phanteks AMP

Your issue does not indicate an issue overall with 3070's

[hearty adder]

No tob its about the psu itself

[tender mulch]

Corsair RMx, Phanteks AMP, Seasonic Focus Gold. Any of those three

[hearty adder]

@tender mulch well aight thx 👍 ill order it pretty soon

Ill get the

Rmx 750

Full modular

[buoyant wigeon]

honestly what I would say @onyx drum is if you crash out again check your drivers, I like to just reinstall them when they cause instability issues either using DDU and cleaning the slate or just going through NVIDIA geForce experience

[rapid moon]

i found a supplier on ebay selling gpus for msrp https://www.ebay.com/itm/3060ti-3070-3080-3090-Nvidia-GPU-30-Series-CPU-AMD/254831080862?hash=item3b551db59e:g:xSwAAOSwT0Vf-OqC

[buoyant wigeon]

🤔 kinda looks sketch NGL

[tender mulch]

Discord

mmmm......nah

[rapid moon]

well on ebay he said u could video call and he will show u the cards

and i think it has that ebay return

[tender mulch]

That's also not MSRP/. $850 for the 3070 Ventus?

[rapid moon]

tariff

[tender mulch]

Didn't go up that much

[rapid moon]

it was 800 msrp for that one wasnt

yea it was 800 for the ventus

probably tariff

[buoyant wigeon]

maybe the 3080

not the 3070 or 3060

[tender mulch]

Yeah, MSRP 3070 still around $600

instead of $500

[rapid moon]

oh i meant the 3080

[buoyant wigeon]

yeah no if the MSRP of the 3060 or 3070 went that high I would actually cry

[onyx drum]

@buoyant wigeon I tried using DDU and reinstalling windows through recovery (didn't use usb method)

[buoyant wigeon]

Wait, you blew up your windows install?

[tender mulch]

Not yet

but it may get to that point with all the driver issues

[onyx drum]

no I purposely reinstalled windows hoping a clean slate would help

[lone pond]

newegg has a 2060 going for like 440 rn

[tender mulch]

oof

[lone pond]

how long does it usually take for gpus to come back

i ideally want a 3060ti the gpus the last thing i need for my buid

[rapid moon]

a couple years

[onyx drum]

I see 3060s a lot on amazon @lone pond

[lone pond]

yeah but theyre like 800 bucks

[grave oar]

How can I buy the rtx 3060 tomorrow in newegg? I know from the 3080 launch it's not available in the search on launch

[tender mulch]

Have to be patient

Cards aren't guaranteed to restock

but 7:30 PM EST is the rough restock time

[remote cargo]

Is the ftw3 ultra 3060 ti that bad?

Reviews say it’s not that good

[round crown]

evga is good

[tender mulch]

I mean, I think it's overpriced for the clocks you get

But it's definitely not bad

[gritty notch]

yeah u pay for warranty

[tender mulch]

EVGA doesn't care if you overclock nor install a waterblock

Wanna mod your card? They literally don't care

[gritty notch]

yep

[rocky geode]

buying a 3070 today

guess how much

[remote cargo]

500?

likely not tho

[dense panther]

900

[zenith leaf]

do any of you have pics of their 3070 FE with awaterblock?

I got my 3070 for 675 🙂

[unreal elm]

How bad of a performance deficit will I experience if I slot my gpu in the bottom PCIe slot

[tender mulch]

None

x8 vs x16 is virtually no perofrmance difference

[unreal elm]

Ok cool thank you

[rocky geode]

700

Usd

[lone pond]

It bad if my gpu idling at 49-50 deg?

[zenith lagoon]

Well

[lone pond]

fans dont kick in until 51deg so its always sitting right below it

[zenith lagoon]

Whats ur fan speed?

right now

[lone pond]

0

no rpm

[tender mulch]

It's fine

[zenith lagoon]

Ok

Thats fine then

[tender mulch]

That's normal on some cards

[lone pond]

if i turn them on then it goes straight down to 41

but idk, should I change fan curve or something

[tender mulch]

nah, should be just fine

[lone pond]

kk thanks

[rocky geode]

I joined the 3070 club

[tender mulch]

Waiting for mine to be ready for pickup

[rocky geode]

How much was yours?

[tender mulch]

MSRP, $559

EVGA XC3 Ultra

[rocky geode]

Nicee

[dense panther]

what your spec @tender mulch

[tender mulch]

3700x/3070

[dense panther]

noice

[karmic crag]

the gigabyte 3060ti was 399 last week, now it's 480

tariffs are fun

[round crown]

yay

[karmic crag]

hopefully nvidia pulls through and drops the 3060 for purchase tomorrow

[dense panther]

on bestbuy ?

[tender mulch]

Best buy is the 19th

newegg drops every night

Though not everything and not a lot

[frank yoke]

Ive been left on delivered about the 1070s ☠️

[karmic crag]

i'm talking about the presentation at CES

[dense panther]

im dumb

i tough about that after

and the 3060 ultra

maybe?

[karmic crag]

eh

maybe

[inland raven]

so they are re stocking the 3060 ti tonight ?

[tender mulch]

Possibly

No way to tell for sure but keep an eye on Twitter

They usually announce there

[karmic crag]

with the price hikes i might have to go with the base rumored 3060 or a used 2070 super

[wispy crystal]

I have a 5700 XT, think I'll wait a year before upgrading again, see if the prices stabilize back to how they're supposed to be

[tender mulch]

With the import tax increase, the new prices are here to stay for a long while

[finite oak]

What's better a 1050 or a 1650?

Or a 1050 ti

[rose adder]

right now even low end cards are hard to find a good deal on

so it kinda depends what you can get them for

[finite oak]

161.99 dollars for a 1650

[rose adder]

what a time to be alive

gtx 1650 launched about 2.5 years ago for 150

1.5 years ago for gddr6 version

[finite oak]

Yep

[rose adder]

I'm lucky I got my 2070 super for 360 from evga b stock, presumably before everyone knew just how bad gpu supply would be

[floral relic]

ow

[karmic crag]

lucky

[fallow glade]

lmao a 2070 super for 360

sounds like a pipe dream rn

[fallen gull]

i'm just hoping i can find a good deal on a 2060 super

[fallow glade]

is that rumor about the 3060ti restock tonight true?

[dreamy dragon]

kronaz#9012 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

[fallen gull]

whoops

there's a 3060 founders at best buy for like 400

in stock too

[fallow glade]

the website?

[fallen gull]

wait nvm

scrolled down and it was out of stock

[fallow glade]

lol yea i went to the site so fast

[fallen gull]

i just don't wanna have my 1660 super anymore

[vivid sequoia]

anyone know good graphics card under 200

[thorny juniper]

i don't think any are under 200 at the moment thanks to scalpers

[fallen gull]

well theres the 16 series

that's ehh

decent i guess

[thorny juniper]

i mean, i'm still running a 1060 ...

[fallen gull]

yikes

[thorny juniper]

yeah was looking to upgrade but with the supply problems.....

[fallen gull]

yeah

[karmic crag]

used 580/1650/1650S

[fallen gull]

i'd say your best bet is 1650S

[karmic crag]

^ in terms of finding one, yes

[lone pond]

hello

Whats the best gpu for core i5 9th gen 5400?

[fallen gull]

you mean the 9400f?

or am i understanding that wrong

[thorny juniper]

if it's 9th gen, 9400 it's one, if it's 5th gen 5400, that's entirely a different beast

[lone pond]

No its a 9th gen 5400

[fallen gull]

that doesn't exist..

[novel palm]

^

[fallen gull]

the generation is the first number of the model

[lone pond]

let me check the box

[fallen gull]

except for 10th, that's the first 2 numbers

[karmic crag]

i don't even think the 5400 exists

pretty sure he means the 9400

[lone pond]

bruh I got the number wrong

9400

I mean

[fallen gull]

lol

[lone pond]

core i5 9th gen 9400 LGA1151

[thorny juniper]

Ahh then prolly 2060 or beter

[karmic crag]

to answer your gpu question probably a 1660 super or better

[lone pond]

its a 9th gen

[fallen gull]

well it can handle up to a 2060S

[lone pond]

Ih alright I will check

[thorny juniper]

Yep. To keep from being gpu bound i'd go 2060 but price wise, 1660

[lone pond]

So a rtx 2060 will handle it but what model?

[karmic crag]

?

[fallen gull]

any?

lol

[lone pond]

The price I'm not worried. Its my pc blowing up

[karmic crag]

lol what

[lone pond]

*price

[vivid sequoia]

@fallen gull @karmic crag thank you.

[fallen gull]

just get a couple of some good fans or even better, water cooling

[thorny juniper]

Then go 3090 :P

[vivid sequoia]

i think i will get the 1650 Super

[lone pond]

me?

[fallen gull]

ye

[lone pond]

I have 6 fans

[karmic crag]

water cooling for a 9400 @fallen gull

[lone pond]

so the only thing I need is a water cooler?

[fallen gull]

i mean true

[karmic crag]

no you don't @lone pond

[lone pond]

Oh ok

[karmic crag]

you're good with air cooling only

[fallen gull]

mine runs fine with the stock cooler

[lone pond]

Alright

Airgato

So I just need any 2060 model so it doesn't need to be a nidea

*nvidea

[karmic crag]

nvidia is the only company that makes the 2060 lol

[fallen gull]

well i mean theres other brands that use the chip

[karmic crag]

oh yes

true

but that doesn't matter

[lone pond]

Oh. All I find are ko and etc

and gigabytes

[karmic crag]

it has no effect on performance

[lone pond]

Oh ok

Once again thank you so much

[karmic crag]

check the used market. it's probably scarce but better than paying $500 new

no prob 👍

[fallen gull]

damn i didn't think of that

[lone pond]

used market?

[fallen gull]

used 2060s

i'd say like on ebay but the prices might be something like 800+

[lone pond]

heck no

[fallen gull]

for a card that launched for around 400

[lone pond]

Fr

[fallen gull]

idk dude, i'm looking too

[lone pond]

So I will find the best gpu I can find on amazon

[lone pond]

I can help you out

[fallen gull]

i think i found a well priced one

[upper sinew]

there is a 5500xt on amazon for 230 i belive

[lone pond]

what is that?

[fallen gull]

i'll send it in dms

[upper sinew]

it might be out of stock, when i checked it was only 3 left

[lone pond]

oh a ryzen gpu?

[upper sinew]

AMD radeon 5500xt yeah

[lone pond]

To what nvidea gpu is that compared to?

[fallen gull]

ehh, 5500xt isn't as good as the 2060

plus with amd there's no ray tracing

[upper sinew]

its good bang for the buck, its around the same as a 1060 6gb

[lone pond]

Oh the money I got

What I don't got is the energy to find one that isn't over priced

[upper sinew]

well your best bet is to get to microcenter really early when they recieve shipments

[fallen gull]

i'm gonna go back to looking and see if i can find a good one for you

[lone pond]

for a 2060?

[lone pond]

oh thank you but you go find a gpu for you mate

[fallen gull]

we'll see, worst case scenario you get a little bit of a worse gpu

[upper sinew]

i think they are going to stop selling them soon (thats what the associate told me) but they might have 3060ti's or 5700xt's

(5700xt is similar to 2060 super or 2070

[lone pond]

3060 will kill my computer

[fallen gull]

found the 2060 for 300

[lone pond]

Where?

it better not be ebay

[upper sinew]

where?

[fallen gull]

ISC storefront

[lone pond]

Is that safe?

[fallen gull]

never heard of it but ill check

[lone pond]

I only trust ebay and jeff bezos

[fallen gull]

oh, no it's not

i found another for 380

[upper sinew]

im trying to find a used card since prices are so inflated right now, and all i see are 580's, what is their obsession

[upper sinew]

you could wait until prices flatten out and get a 3060ti or if the leaks are true, a 3050 wich could replace the 2060 (i heard this from the microcenter employee dont quote me)

[fallen gull]

yeah i think i'm gonna wait for a better price

[karmic crag]

offerup and fb mrktplace are probably your best bet for used gpus

[fallen gull]

as for you @lone pond, try to find a good deal on a 1660 super

[karmic crag]

which employee said that?

[upper sinew]

lemmie find my boxes holdon

this guy named stephen fraser

[karmic crag]

hmm

[upper sinew]

its the duluth location

[karmic crag]

they said that the 3050 could replace the 2060?

[upper sinew]

he said it with skeptiscism, but yeah

possibly

[karmic crag]

interesting

fingers crossed for tomorrow's presentation

[upper sinew]

they have one tomorrow???

i havent heard a single word about it

[fallen gull]

16 hours

[karmic crag]

yes, tomorrow at ces, they're rumored to drop some cards

it's almost certain that they'll reveal some gpus, but no one is sure which ones

[fallen gull]

there's a countdown on their site i think

[karmic crag]

i've heard 3080ti, 3080 super, 3070 ti, 3060 ultra, 3050, 3060, etc

[upper sinew]

im hoping for a regular 3060,

[karmic crag]

same here

[upper sinew]

and maybe that could saturate the market enough that cards maybe could become aviable

[shy forge]

So as it stands right now is it going to be better and still try and snag a card on a drop or by from like Facebook marketplace?

[fallen gull]

i bet it'll be the ultra

[lone pond]

I will try to find a 1660

[karmic crag]

@shy forge you already have a 2060 super

[lone pond]

but how am I going to play my fortnite?

[upper sinew]

as of today, second hand is better, but if you want new parts then try and go to a brick and mortar store super early

[upper sinew]

mans lucky, i got a hd 5450 because microcenter was absolutely sold out

[fallen gull]

not just a normal 1660, try to find the "super" variant

[shy forge]

@karmic crag i know I have a 2060 super but I'm about to sell my pc and rebuild as it is a few years old

[fallen gull]

it's better

[karmic crag]

i'm using an igpu trying to get a 3060 ti

meanwhile there are people trying to upgrade their 2080tis to 3080s 😐

[upper sinew]

same, im hoping the regular 3060 or 3060 super is around 350

[karmic crag]

yep me too

350 seems reasonable

[fallen gull]

dude, i just wanna play modded beat saber smoothly

[shy forge]

@karmic crag when you try and play a fps competitively you need to push the fps

[karmic crag]

the 20 series cards are still good

[shy forge]

Yes its still a great card I just want to upgrade it

[upper sinew]

a 2080ti will probably engine cap the game like CSGO, besides, what commercial monitors offer 350+ fps

[fallen gull]

up until a month ago i thought 240 hz was the limit but i guess not?

[upper sinew]

same, i think somewhere in some engineering lab there are higher hz models

[solar mist]

CSGO wont engine cap at 240hz
and 360hz monitors are the current highest refresh monitors

[lone pond]

whats the difference between super?

Well a 3060ti kill my computer?

[upper sinew]

i was mistaken, left 4 dead 2 is capped at 300, but a quick google search says that csgo is uncapped

[solar mist]

its just a slightly better card
And no

[fallen gull]

no, it'll just be a gpu bottleneck

[upper sinew]

what watt powersupply you have

[lone pond]

AH 720M

let me check

CX 720M

[upper sinew]

720 watts?

[lone pond]

yes

[upper sinew]

you will be fine

[lone pond]

crosshair

what about my cpu?

will it handle it?

[fallen gull]

it'll be bottlenecked

[upper sinew]

anything above a 2600 should handle it

what cpu do you have?

[fallen gull]

he said i5 9400

[lone pond]

Core i5 9th gen 9400

[fallen gull]

i assume its the 9400f

[lone pond]

Mo

*no

Just the 9400

[fallen gull]

hmm

[lone pond]

I'm saving up for a core i7

[solar mist]

how much for the core i7?

[lone pond]

500

[solar mist]

dont

What are you using the computer for?

[lone pond]

Core i5 9th 9400 with a gpu 2060

[lone pond]

Pc

[solar mist]

Gaming, editing, 3d modeling, etc

[lone pond]

Yes

[upper sinew]

its a hexa core cpu similar to the 3600, and a quick google search suggests a less than 7% bottleneck

besides, you are going to have to reach bottom of the barrel cpus to actually bottleneck something

[solar mist]

i have a feeling never is trolling

[lone pond]

No I dont

[upper sinew]

could be a kid prolly 10-12 years old wanting to know more about computers

[lone pond]

have a hexa core cpu

No

[upper sinew]

6 cores and 6 threads

yes

[lone pond]

I don't have a hexa cpu

[upper sinew]

9400 has 6 cores which means hexa, therefore hexa core

it just means the number of cores

[solar mist]

maybe, but being able to create normal sentences but then saying yes to a question with given answers...

[lone pond]

nvm

[upper sinew]

yeah, get a 3700x, i got mine on sale at microcenter for 300$ if you plan on doing anything other than gaming

[lone pond]

amd?

[upper sinew]

microcenter also has frequent sales on i9's, i7',s and and such

[karmic crag]

and i5s

sometimes

[upper sinew]

you probably have a LGA (intel) motherboard so id say stick with intel for now

what motherboard do you have?

[lone pond]

Asus prime

[karmic crag]

what type

[upper sinew]

yeah, z490, z390, etc

[upper sinew]

the white and black one with a rgb vrm cover?

[lone pond]

Yes

no idk

Its a B460M-A

[upper sinew]

i would probably dont go higher than a i-7

and thats pushing it

[karmic crag]

yeah i7 really is pushing it

i'd say i5 max

[upper sinew]

it would work but the vrms would be stressed af

[karmic crag]

i'm running a 10400 + b460m-a and it's solid

[upper sinew]

you could possibly do it, if you dont overclock

[karmic crag]

it limits my ram to 2666 mhz but that's fine

[upper sinew]

https://youtu.be/6bI5IDAc8TY this guy is running a similar rig with a i-7

and it seems to work fine

[karmic crag]

i7 with a 1650 super

[lone pond]

ew

Lol

Nah Im not going to upgrade

maybe when Im 18

[upper sinew]

but i would still say upgrade to maybe a aorus z390 aorus pro, its under 200$ and should handle a i7 good and even a i9

[upper sinew]

pc parts advance fast, the i5 is not a bad pick tho