#graphics-cards

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ripe ivy
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Cause if you are a CPU upgrade will not be much of a concern for now tbh

torn yarrow
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what is a good price for a 1080ti?

lone pond
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i mean the 3060ti and 1080ti are not much of a difference 5-10 fps difference in almost every game
@torn yarrow so i wouldn't buy one for over 400

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i would wait for stock and go from there

amber birch
torn yarrow
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ok

ripe ivy
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Okay, so yeah there will be quite the bottleneck for 1080p

lone pond
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r7 2700x is good enough for 4k

ripe ivy
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But honestly, it depends on the game

lone pond
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1080p I mean bottle neck wouldn't really be much

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won't tell a huge difference

ripe ivy
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Like if it's Esport type titles, eh I mean you're still getting hundreds of frames typically

lone pond
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facts

ripe ivy
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Like I dunno Siege for example

lone pond
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60fps+ easy

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later on you could possible upgrade but a r7 2700x is perfectly fine

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they even used a r3 3300x in a video for comparison it ain't that bad

amber birch
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I mean if it out performs my current card then I'm fine with it lol But I've been playing RPGs more so fps above 60 doesn't really matter.

warped osprey
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2600x with 1660 super is that okay or should i upgrade/downgrade?

lone pond
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for 1080p
it is alright

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also depends on the budget

warped osprey
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1,520CAD (canadian)

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both on x470 btw

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using 32gb (2x16) 3200mhz ram as well

coarse spindle
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@warped osprey budget?

warped osprey
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$1,520 CAD

coarse spindle
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ooh sorry

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and you are staying on the x470 platform or are you buying a new PC

warped osprey
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staying on x470

coarse spindle
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ooh ok

warped osprey
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its an msi x470 gaming plus max im pretty sure

coarse spindle
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well, If you find someone with a 3900x with buyers remorse and a 3080

warped osprey
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i wish msi could calll their gaming plus max boards gpm for short

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eh

coarse spindle
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that should work

warped osprey
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not really lookin for high end just yet

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might upgrade down the line tho

coarse spindle
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your build seems good enough for now anyway

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although maybe see if you can find an older RTX card

warped osprey
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so there is no issue with 2600x with 1660 super?

coarse spindle
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not really. they are a well matched pair

warped osprey
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is it enough for high and mid settings?

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and also vr?

coarse spindle
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well depends

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on the game

warped osprey
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like say 1080p 60hz

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and 1440p 90 for index

coarse spindle
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ok, but what kind of games

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like cyberpunk?

warped osprey
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r6, vrchat, eve online, minecraft, world of tanks and world of warships and gta 5

torn yarrow
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is it worth upgrading to a 1070 from a rx 570?

waxen iron
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That’s a downgrade

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Wait

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I read that wrong

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Aka go to sleep Jacek

torn yarrow
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?

waxen iron
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I can’t read

torn yarrow
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hehehheheeh

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so is it worth it?

waxen iron
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But to answer, there’s no point really

torn yarrow
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hmmmmmmmmmm

waxen iron
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Go 20/30 series

torn yarrow
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im poor

waxen iron
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Pascal is minimal gain

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You asked for an answer

torn yarrow
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ik and thank you

waxen iron
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Time to pass out

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Adieu

torn yarrow
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gn

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how about a 1080 is it worth to upgrade

teal frost
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Nope, save up for a 1660 super at least

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Now is a bad time to upgrade, things arent really in stock

warped osprey
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bruh a 1080 and 1080 ti is better than a 1660 super what are you saying?

teal frost
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??

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a 1660 super is better isnt it??

icy cove
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no

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not at all

warped osprey
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no

teal frost
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I must be stupid

warped osprey
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just cuz the number is bigger does not mean its better

teal frost
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Save up for a 3060 or 2070-2080 then

icy cove
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GTX 1080 is 44% better than a 1660 super

warped osprey
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if you cant then get a 2060

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also @torn yarrow what cpu u got?

tender mulch
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Please don't use UserBenchmarks

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Real world testing is maybe 10-20 FPS

warped osprey
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i swear if people use that bs

tender mulch
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Anytime you see X is xx% better than x you know

warped osprey
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uh-, yes

tender mulch
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1080 is better, yes, but not by a huge margin

warped osprey
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yep

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1080 ti is kinda like a 50%-ish better than 1660 super

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1660 super and ti basically have no difference

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a 2060 isnt worth it tbh

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i'd rather get a 3060/3070 or 2060 super/2070

quiet horizon
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I got a 1650 what should I upgrade to😭

clear pier
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I would say 3060 ti

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Because you probably don’t have the cpu to go with the 3070 or 3080 and the 60 ti is 400 bucks

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If you can get one of corse

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The 50 will come out soon too. That should be a pretty good pair

torn yarrow
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should i go with a 1070 and get a way better power supply or 1080 no power supply

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and the 1080 isnt guaranteed

tender mulch
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I think you should wait for GPU prices and stock to stabilize 🙂

torn yarrow
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hmmmmmmmmmmm

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how long would that be a couple of months or year

tender mulch
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1-2 months

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More GPU's releasing next month too

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3060 non-TI

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maybe a 3050

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Plus some from AMD also if rumors are true

torn yarrow
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true

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so i guess i might wait

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but you prob cant get those gpus

tender mulch
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Never say never

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100% serious. Any 1000 series you buy is honestly a waste of money RN

torn yarrow
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and how much would they cost

tender mulch
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3050 probs $300

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3060 non-ti probs $350

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If I had to guess

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Maybe 3050 $250?

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No prices yet

torn yarrow
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nope

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i just dont know what to do im desperate for a ''good'' gpu

tender mulch
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Mmmm

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I've been waiting since October for a 3070 so

torn yarrow
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wow

tender mulch
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Ye

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They released just before Halloween

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🤷

torn yarrow
tender mulch
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But I know what my time and money is worth

torn yarrow
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nope but if you know who lucid is he said you can always acquire money but time you cant

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( i just made that up tbh)

tender mulch
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That's how I think of it. I buy things with time, not money.

torn yarrow
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yes

sacred radish
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Guys is the 1660s a better card than the rx580 and if I can only get the worse of the two should I just wait or get the worse one

brisk flame
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1660s obliterates the 580

torn yarrow
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yes

brisk flame
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no competition

sacred radish
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Okay thanks

torn yarrow
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but i think you should wait

brisk flame
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1660s is worth 230

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you can get RX 580 for like 130 used

sacred radish
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Yeah it’s really expensive right now

torn yarrow
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yeah

brisk flame
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they are in way different price classes

torn yarrow
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my pc looks jank asf

icy cove
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dang, wouldn't expect the chosen one to have a jank PC

past egret
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Question for you guys! I just got a new case and I’m trying out vertical mounting for the first time. Is this even worth keeping and just monitoring temps like crazy or is it a definite problem?

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(Never mind I can’t attach a pic, but the gpu is literally touching the side panel)

icy cove
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just stress test it and watch temps

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but also get another opinion because idk anything about vertical mounting

proper bronze
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I have a 1660 super and ryzen 5 3600x. Should I upgrade my gpu?

lone pond
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no

amber stratus
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Hey

amber stratus
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What is the best one 3060ti or

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3070

green harness
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A 3070 is more powerful than a 3060Ti, which is best will depend on your budget and use case @amber stratus

amber stratus
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@green harness my friends budget is 1300

green harness
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I'm not the best person to help you figure out exactly what the best bang for the buck at that price is, but I think either gpu could fit at that budget IF the gpu is at msrp and if 1300 is just for the pc (not a monitor, keyboard, etc)

amber stratus
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Yeah with out monitor keyboard

green harness
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Ok, I'd recommend finding out what resolution and refresh rate your friend's monitor is and then looking at the performance of the two cards at that res/refresh. My impression is there isn't much need to go up to a 3070 for 1080p for example

craggy compass
iron tide
oblique spoke
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my 3070 won’t initialize anymore

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my motherboard beeps at me 5 times

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any help here?

night mica
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Is there a particular reason to go with nvidia over Radeon?

tender mulch
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Drivers and streaming

night mica
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Which is better? If either is better

tender mulch
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IMO, nVidia. Better for streaming and better software

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@oblique spoke 5 beeps = CPU, not GPU.

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Check CPU fan and CPU power

lone pond
copper mason
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@night mica Nvidia and AMD drivers are on almost equal footing right now, buy whatever is available that you can afford. If you're a real picky person for detail, get something with more than 8gb of VRAM as we've already seen a few games that will use more than 8gb. If you want ray tracing right now at playable frame-rates, go nvidia. If you don't care much about ray tracing or wouldn't mind using it at a later date, the AMD cards right now often have more VRAM than nvidia cards in the same price bracket - this will make them stay relevant longer for gaming at high details and high resolutions. If gaming at 4k with ray tracing on is your thing, definitely go for more than 8gb of VRAM.
TL-DR, get what is available to purchase in your price range.

night mica
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Oh, sick. The card I was looking at was the RX 5600XT

copper mason
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@oblique spoke You can google motherboard beep codes for your model of motherboard. Your motherboard model is usually silk-screened onto the board somewhere below the CPU socket or next to it. You may have to remove the GPU or the CPU cooler to see it.
You can sometimes forgot to re-plug your CPU power EPS12V 8-pin cable(s) when installing a GPU as sometimes it's impossible to route the EPS12V anywhere but over the video card due to cable length issues.

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@night mica Get whatever you can afford. Right now 8gb is nice for 1080p / 1440p, but if it gets slow, consider knocking down texture details one notch to get things playable again as there's a few games that came out this year that want more than 8gb. For what a 5600xt costs, it's not a bad option. If you get it at a discounted price, even better.

tender mulch
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1080p gaming doesn't need more than 8 GB VRAM

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Even 1440p is fine at 8 GB

copper mason
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Some folks were doing tricks with the 5600xt BIOS flashing to try turning it into a slightly-power-hungry 5700 series card. The GPU is quite similar, but I believe a lower yield (I do not own one, but I keep up to date on PC hardware news by inhaling all the info I can find constantly). I don't think you'll want to mess with that BIOS trick unless you're god-level with PC hardware, as otherwise it is a plenty good card and should give you a few years of gaming for a decent price.

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@tender mulch Some games can go over 8gb, more-so with ray tracing and other nvidia features which need some VRAM to do their magic. It's not required to have more than 8gb and it might not make a visible difference in most proper game engines (which will unload assets not in scene when it gets low).
I don't wish to again say how limiting it is trying to fit everything into 8gb of VRAM without resorting to mud textures or building-windows that are two dimensional stickers, ugh.
If it's what you can afford, no crime in that. I have 8gb here, I do hobbies of game design and such, it can easily be overwhelmed especially when modding newer games. That said, knocking texture details down to half resolution in any game that should go over is not often very noticeable and definitely won't detract from gameplay.

tender mulch
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Sigh.

copper mason
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I'm with you on the sigh, it's too early for that type of talk anywho.

tender mulch
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Game design =/= gaming

copper mason
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DO read some reviews of latest games though, they're slowly starting to want more VRAM now that there's cards out beyond the top 1% that have over 8gb. It's a bit of the chicken and the egg theory with PC hardware and gaming. Sometimes PCMR stuff isn't always fun and games.

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Honestly, I can't wait for games to make use of the new video card tech and specs. It's going to be so much more immersive in every way in a few years when the new consoles and cards have been out for a bit and have somewhat saturated the market.
Hopefully I can get something with more memory than this 2070 Thuper (said with sarcastic lisp) has.

tender mulch
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I have. If someone is looking at a 5600XT, they aren't going for 1440p gaming (or shouldn't be). 8 GB VRAM is fine.

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Also, with 30 series, everyone is quick to bash the QTY of ram without thinking about the bandwidth. It matters.

old narwhal
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Hey guys can i ask a question? I was planning to buy a mid range gpu, what gpu do u prefer? Rx 5500xt or gtx 1660s thanks!

copper mason
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Yes RAM bandwidth matters a lot depending on what you're doing. However, to charge 500+ $ for something that's only got the same amount of VRAM as an older card, only to turn around and make cards 'coming soon' next month / 6 weeks after the competition came out with 16gb (even if it's not all used yet, which it isn't), just seems a bit shady.
Some of the VRAM conservation on specs of 30 series by nvidia is due to GDDR6X shortage on the market.

waxen iron
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🍿

copper mason
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@old narwhal Look up hardware reviews on those cards or the games you intend to play, and pick whichever runs what you like best for the right price you're willing to pay.

old narwhal
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Ok thanks buddy! @copper mason

copper mason
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1660 series is pretty decent. If you go 2060S you can get very basic ray tracing IF it's in your budget, don't expect a world of difference though as it's not very powerful when it comes to ray tracing in general.

gritty notch
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sucks cause for what i do i need vram but also cant use amd keeeek

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im just boned

old narwhal
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I dont need ray tracing tbh.. i just want to play at 1080p haha

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And some steaming

copper mason
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If ray tracing does not matter, the 1660 Super or Ti or whatever the heck they named it is pretty close in performance for a bit less cost.
@gritty notch I keep running out of VRAM on an 8gb card here, but I refuse to spend 500$ plus after spending 572$ for this card a year ago (I couldn't wait on it, it was holding up production and my old card was acting up, it was what was available that didn't have disco lights).

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Nvidia's streaming implementation is purportedly better and less impactful on performance.

gritty notch
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nvenc*

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some of the AI stuff i do just munches ram

copper mason
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Yes, I've gleaned that from reviews. It's nice to have something built in for that. Another nice feature on nvidia cards with Ray Tracing is just how fast even a lower model Turing card can do ray tracing in 3d modeling and graphics design software (read: blink and it's done).

old narwhal
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Ohh ok buddy thanks!

gritty notch
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it makes me upset that they dare to sell workstation cards keeeek

copper mason
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A 2070 Super is much, much faster on ray tracing a scene than my 3950x is (stock settings with DOCP ram profile enabled). I believe the 2070 Super is about 3~5x faster than the CPU. Unbelievable.

gritty notch
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imo amd gpu vs nvidia gpu

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0 contest

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for any sort of productivity work

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amd just gets absolutely bodied

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no one in pro scene takes any of their gpus seriously

copper mason
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My Radeon RX 480 8gb kept crashing the snot out of everything. Was great on Windows 7 not a single issue. Put it on this Windows 10 machine and it wouldn't keep on it's stock clocks. Tried everything, finally DEC 2 2019 it scrambled the desktop, it went back to live in a box after that, couldn't stand it anymore.

gritty notch
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im telling you

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next gpu just use nvidia

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best choice ull make i promise keeeek

tender mulch
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2060 for ray tracing is poo. Too much of an FPS hit even in 1080p

gritty notch
tender mulch
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It is

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but not for gaming

gritty notch
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its stupid that it wasnt just marketed as a workstation card

tender mulch
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I bought one

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I regret

gritty notch
copper mason
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I have an old Radeon HD 7850 2gb that still purrs along just fine after 7.5 years, I got it in mid 2013 when it was 'on sale'. That one works great. This 2070 Super 8gb model works great. The RX 480 8gb card had the same issue that affected MANY polaris cards in that it mimicked 'a dying card'.
I was going to just get a Radeon VII open box 16gb model, but I lost my trust in AMD GPU's. On the flip side though, AMD CPU / Chipset is great, love my 3700x and 3950x here.

tender mulch
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Especially since a lot of my fave games are Unreal Engine. UE doesn't like GPU overclocks -_-

gritty notch
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source: used one for like a week

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was ass

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sold

tender mulch
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Radeon VII?

copper mason
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UE can be a huge pain in the rear even when NOT overclocking anything. I have lost count of how many different times that there was fourth-wall breaking knocks from the developers of the game over UE antics.

tender mulch
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OOF

gritty notch
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yep

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just brought it up cause bob was considering

tender mulch
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Hopefully now that AMD is caught up on the CPU market, they'll spend some time on their GPU drivers

gritty notch
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honestly either get a quadro from me or a 3080 and youll be set for years

tender mulch
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Cuz if they nail the GPU drivers as well as nVidia, they'd have a great product

copper mason
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Yeah I don't want to go back to AMD GPU's unless they're half-price and there's pro-line drivers available for that card model (even if I must flash bios to install them).

gritty notch
tender mulch
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Yeah but that's coming

gritty notch
tender mulch
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They're making OK headway

gritty notch
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theyll say they do

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but they never actually will be "pro grade"

tender mulch
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That's what Intel said

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And look now, Intel is the new budget king LOL

spice prawn
gritty notch
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or possibly the next

spice prawn
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as always, it comes and goes

gritty notch
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theyre struggling to get the cards perfect for normal people

copper mason
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AMD's getting better, but the polaris card was a black hole for productivity here, it sucked it all in and never spit anything good out except DISPLAY DRIVER HAS RECOVERED AFTER CRASHING, HOPE YOU SAVED YOUR WORK RECENTLY type messages. I'm just shocked there's not an RX 480 shaped hole in the wall thus far.

gritty notch
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and they know pros dont take them seriously at all

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so theyre working on getting the cards perfect for gamers first

spice prawn
tender mulch
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Can't deny the leap fro AMD 5000-6000 was decent though

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They're coming

copper mason
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I would love to have an all AMD machine, but I had to switch to Nvidia for stability.
Now I'm using the 'Studio Ready' drivers for Nvidia Turing series cards, they crash but not as much. It mostly just hates my window-skinning app that I got on discount because the Windows 10 default interface was backwards, awful, and just the mockery of productivity.

gritty notch
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i hope amd does well

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i dont like nvidia or their practices

copper mason
spice prawn
gritty notch
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theyre just the best option ight now and probably for the like

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foreseeable future

spice prawn
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because IF they can keep to a schedule like the ryzen line has had? the consumers will win

gritty notch
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id say maybe 2 gens from now we could have some serious competition thoygh

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and im hyped

night mica
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Well, I’m going with a 6 gig amd card and a ryzen 7 so once my parts arrive I’ll let you know how an all amd build runs

gritty notch
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because at the end of the day idc about brand i care abt how the stuff performs

tender mulch
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Oh, if they keep up with the 6000 series like they have, nVidia will have a handful

copper mason
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The run on hardware right now - besides console launches and factory mishaps etc, is so bad because of intel stagnating for years and AMD also not having top-tier GPUs for a long time. Now that PC hardware is advancing more than 2% annually, people have an actual reason to buy something - e.g. we have something to upgrade to, now!

dreamy dragonBOT
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Ginger-Breadsticks#8720 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

night mica
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Oop

gritty notch
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exactly

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its weird cause i feel like for a lot of people

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the 3090 is a great budget card

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if youre looking at HPC at home

night mica
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Scuse me what

gritty notch
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it beats my rtx 6000 stuff pretty handily in HPC

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and costs half as much

copper mason
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3090 only has one fault, the price. I love it, but 1500$ ~ 2600$ for various models from basic OEM models up to the expensive ASUS GUNDAM edition... that's INSANE unless your work is footing the note on it.

spice prawn
gritty notch
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3090 is literally a god tier budget card

copper mason
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3090 - yes IF you can find one. So rare, MSI had someone steal two pallets of them from the factory dock in China.

spice prawn
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its just 2 pallets

gritty notch
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even getting scalped for 3090 is cheaper than getting the quadro equivs

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i mean quadro beats it in some aspects but

copper mason
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I don't look forward to the days of having to go into a seedy back alley in a bad part of town to do a cash-only deal for a bag of GPUs. I mean, really, c'mon, it's almost 2021, not 1921 here.

gritty notch
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for half as much

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not bad

spice prawn
gritty notch
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but its like

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if youre a student

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and need HPC for some stuff youre learning

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3090 is really looking like a good budget card

spice prawn
copper mason
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I'd love a quadro, but I'm only a hobbyist doing this for fun - my current for-fun project is Los Injurus for BeamNG Drive, which is a city the size of GTA V's land mass roughly. Not an ounce of plagiarism, but it's more fun building a city in a driving simulator than a city builder game.
But darn if I can't get a nice 12~24gb card at a REASONABLE price. It doesn't need to be fast, it just needs to let me model and run the game engine live at the same time on high detail.

gritty notch
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i HATE being vendor locked for anything

tender mulch
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It already is great for the consumers

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AMD just needs to get decent on the software front (drivers)

spice prawn
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i mean, IF they keep it up, we might eventually get less "fanboy-ism" wars about GPU choice. Which would be nice :)

gritty notch
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i hope so lol

copper mason
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I am a fanboy - only of a good deal 🙂

gritty notch
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im tired of hearing ppl say amd is fine for video encode just cause theyre amd fans keeeek

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same lmao i simp for good deals

copper mason
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Yes, it'd be nice to not have to spend 40 hours a week LOOKING for a video card. You used to just be able to click a button and it'd be on it's way, whatever you wanted you could buy. Not anymore. This STINKS.

warped osprey
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ikr

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i gotta check my cart every day

gritty notch
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i miss the old days keeeek

spice prawn
gritty notch
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because cpu encode vs gpu still gets smacked

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no matter who does it

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amd or intel

copper mason
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I remember going to computer shows and picking out the Matrox Mystique/MGA and Millenium II cards I had (the G200 and G400 too). You could just go to the high-end vendors (that had anything better than a Cirrus-Logic 'Trident' branded model), and pick one out, slap down the cash or credit / debit card, and be off. Not anymore.

spice prawn
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@gritty notch point is. Context matters for statements :)

copper mason
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I was in highschool in the 90's and loved buying PC parts, now it's like a needle in a hay stack.

spice prawn
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no, no maybe about that

gritty notch
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honestly if i was building a machine for encode id prolly go intel still

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quicksync is nice

warped osprey
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remember when pc parts were dirt cheap?

copper mason
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Yeah, a top-tier Millenium 2 4mb AGP card was 200$ max in 1998.

spice prawn
gritty notch
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i still use matrox omegalul

spice prawn
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I have a Marvel board somewhere in storage still

copper mason
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That was a god-level cad card back then, and it even did well enough to run quake great if you had better than a Pentium 120 / Cyrix 6x86 PR166+

warped osprey
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man quake hit different now

spice prawn
warped osprey
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wasnt quake the first game that invented bunny hopping?

copper mason
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Quake VS Cyrix = death of Cyrix and eventual sale to VIA after a few different company hand-changes...
Quake was the rocket jumping birth-place.

warped osprey
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b hopping in quake got CRAZY

copper mason
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Everytime I tried rocket jumping, I would either turn to kitty kibbles or survive with 2 health left only to fall in a lava pit. Darn lava pits, they were EVERYWHERE.

spice prawn
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and grenade jumping Bob :)

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well, grenade "bouncing"

copper mason
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Yeah I dunno, I just know it was something to make sure to quick-save before trying to rocket jump.

spice prawn
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oh yes

copper mason
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BOOM splat or BOOM splash scream scream death

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I finally just beat Quake II a year ago, playing quake II RTX. Was totally worth a play through. Wish they had more old games with RT and path tracing rendering.

spice prawn
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i still have a very vivid memory of attending a lan party in the late 90's and running across the local quake champ and just being bounced all over the bloody place

copper mason
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I think I remember Tenabrae as the quake engine of choice, that and really enjoying Quake Racer a lot more than I should have - that was a blast multiplayer.

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Tenabrae came along to greatness when 3DFX got the voodoo 1 and 2 into circulation.

spice prawn
#

i had completely forgotten about Tenebrae

copper mason
#

If I didn't have satellite internet I think I'd still be down for some Quake Racer or just good old Doom deathmatching, I loved DOOM for everything it was worth. My first 486 came with a SB16 multimedia MPC-1 kit with a 2x Matsu-something CD-ROM drive and all that. It came with a shareware copy of doom, also, and shareware warcraft, descent, and heretic. I was in heaven when I bought Doom / Doom II / more levels CD's and the like. You couldn't pry me off the computer and the doom editor unless the power went out.

spice prawn
#

remember the logitech wingman stick?

#

the only "real" way to play descent?

copper mason
#

If it wasn't for the doom editor and constantly murdering the pc without trying, or just cleanly going way beyond it's capabilities, I wouldn't have learned a lick about PC hardware.

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Yes, descent just served to make me sick. It was a good 3~5 years before I could control the ship in descent to any amount of merit.

spice prawn
#

:)

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that stick was the first controller that i broke from plain use

copper mason
#

Well that was a refreshing trip down memory lane there...
I wore a few controllers out in my day, I think I wore through 3 different packard bell keyboards (I love their keyboards not the PC's) before the end of 2008. I literally wore THROUGH some of the keys.

spice prawn
#

hehe

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the Packard boards was not something that was "that" widespread here (at least outside of companies)

copper mason
#

I used to find them at the tech drop-off and they would give me the packard bell keyboards when I'd see them. I'd usually offload some more valuable stuff than those, and they'd give them to me. I can't find them anymore outside of ebay, and with USB allowing more than two key-presses at the same time, I must use those now.

drowsy kiln
#

I got a GTX 1660ti recently and it can play Rocket League and Minecraft fine but while trying to play Valorant and Fortnite the entire PC shuts off. How should I go about trying to fix this. (@ me or reply to this)

copper mason
gritty notch
#

prolly psu

drowsy kiln
tender mulch
#

Not a PSU issue.

gritty notch
#

drivers?

drowsy kiln
#

So CPU is 4-5 years old, GPU is brand new, and PSU is around 2-3 years I think (It's a friend so not totally sure and he got it used from someone)

tender mulch
#

Check PC temps, CPU specifically and drivers

drowsy kiln
tender mulch
#

Would be worth a DDU and install fresh drivers

#

brand new GPU?

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What was the old one?

drowsy kiln
#

No clue something 7-8 years old

tender mulch
#

Yeah

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highly recommend DDU

gritty notch
#

yep ddu and reinstall

tender mulch
#

It's a driver wipe program

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Download it, boot to safe mode, run DDU and uninstall ALL the nVidia boxes

gritty notch
#

crying i want faser ingests

drowsy kiln
#

Can you link one? Then the drivers needed for the system

tender mulch
#

Boot back to Windows, install fresh drivers

gritty notch
#

and yeah do that

tender mulch
gritty notch
#

and just go to nvidias site to download the drivers afterwards

tender mulch
#

Also, load up your CPU and check temps

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5 years, might need a repaste

drowsy kiln
#

Ok so should only need the GTX 166ti drivers not the CPU graphics drivers

tender mulch
#

Cinebench is good for a load

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HWINFO is good to check temps

drowsy kiln
#

Yea we ran Cinebench R15

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It ran around 105fps

tender mulch
#

Temps though?

copper mason
#

As vintage said, DO try to reinstall drivers. Also, make sure that's it's a genuine 1660Ti if you ordered from Ebay or similar. However, if that does not help your situation, it may be time to get a newer PSU with slightly more wattage. Haswell processor uses a LOT of wattage when overclocked, so make sure not to do that, leave it stock as it should still be fast enough at stock settings.

gritty notch
#

cinebench gpu benchmark keeeek

tender mulch
#

1660TI doesn't need more than 600 watts

drowsy kiln
#

Yes I realize I wanted something quick and easy to run

gritty notch
tender mulch
#

1660TI only needs 400-45W PSU

drowsy kiln
# tender mulch Temps though?

GPU - 40C
CPU - Not totally sure but don't have new thermal paste avaliable tho will tell him to order. I'll get friend to chcek CPU temps

tender mulch
#

Tell him to use HWINFO to check temps

copper mason
#

Drivers will cause display driver reset or BSOD at worst case. It should NEVER shut the PC cleanly off if the driver goes wacky.

tender mulch
#

Cinebench doesn't really test the GPU anyway

copper mason
#

Cinebench is more for CPU testing.

#

3D mark is free if you use the demo, it will show if there's instabilities for the most part.

#

you can get it on steam, even the demo

gritty notch
#

heaven or valley benchmark superior

drowsy kiln
#

Ok so current steps

  1. Get rid of drivers
  2. Reinstall drivers
  3. Install 3D Mark and use HWINFO to monitor temps on 2nd monitor
gritty notch
#

no needto mess with steam

tender mulch
#

No

#

Test CPU temps with Cinebench R20

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and HWINFO for temps

gritty notch
#

^^

#

cinebench is for cpu

drowsy kiln
#

No 3D mark for GPU stress

tender mulch
#

See if the CPU is thermal limiting

drowsy kiln
#

and then cinebench for CPU

gritty notch
#

run heaven or valley on loop

tender mulch
#

hard shut downs might be CPU thermal limit

gritty notch
#

for like

#

a few hours

gritty notch
#

might be cpu

tender mulch
#

Especially with 5 year old paste

drowsy kiln
#

But it can run Rocket League perfectly fine at over 100fps which is why I'm confused asf

tender mulch
#

and a most likely dirty CPU cooler

#

Rocket league isn't a big load lol

gritty notch
tender mulch
#

It's not demanding

gritty notch
#

esports games arel ght

drowsy kiln
#

Ok so that makes sense why Rocket League and Minecraft can run but Valorant and Fortnite cant

tender mulch
#

Ye

drowsy kiln
#

Ok so wipe drivers, reinsall graphics drivers, run 3D mark for GPU/Cinebench R15/R20 for CPU. Use HWINFO to monitor temps

tender mulch
#

But ya, DDU the drivers, install fresh. Test CPU temps with Cinebench R20 and HWINFO, then 3DMARK for GPU if CPU is fine

#

You got it

drowsy kiln
#

Right hope this all works thanks for your time. I'll come back ltr ofc it something comes up. Any specific thermal paste to order cause either way shuold be redone or just anything on amazon/MicroCenter

tender mulch
#

Arctic SIlver MX4 is my go to

drowsy kiln
#

Perfect and I'll look to see if that paste is in stock

#

tho it should be

gritty notch
#

mx4, nt-h1, kryonaut all good pastes

#

kryonaut is the BEST but pricing reflects that

tender mulch
#

At the very least, clean the CPU cooler. I'd imagine it's been neglected and is a fair bit dusty

gritty notch
#

also that yeah

#

get some canned air or smth

warped osprey
#

my friend bought U-DIMM ram even though he had an x470

gritty notch
#

just blow it out

tender mulch
#

For that matter, the GPU too

gritty notch
warped osprey
#

ikr

drowsy kiln
#

Most likley if his parents are fine with it an all might go to his house and just clean the entire thing. Then do the 4 steps myself.

tender mulch
#

Good idea

drowsy kiln
#

Cause 7 year old CPU its probs got a crap ton of dust

gritty notch
#

or just have him join this server keeeek

tender mulch
#

I'd imagine so

gritty notch
#

helping through someone else is always worse than helping directly

tender mulch
#

no, pls don't. Pics of nasty CPU coolers trigger my OCD XD

drowsy kiln
#

Oh wait don't send the pic of the computer and @ your later?

#

lol

tender mulch
#

LMAO

#

It's fine

warped osprey
#

really wish noctua's best cpu coolers werent brown and beige

gritty notch
#

make him scream

drowsy kiln
gritty notch
tender mulch
#

AIO's, hello

drowsy kiln
#

Yea or AIOs

#

Yea you can always get modded parts

warped osprey
#

i get triggered when i see an aio installed the wrong way

drowsy kiln
#

idk exactly where someone else might know better but there is somewhere to do it

tender mulch
#

Top mount best mount

#

Flood the pump

warped osprey
#

yep

drowsy kiln
tender mulch
#

Hoses at the top front mount makes me cringe

warped osprey
#

ikr

drowsy kiln
#

Top AIO, Front 3x120mm, Rear 1x120mm

cold spire
#

what is better 1660 super oc or 1080

tender mulch
#

1080

drowsy kiln
#

1080 all the way

cold spire
#

any reasons why

tender mulch
#

But with prices right now, neither

warped osprey
#

1080 definitely

tender mulch
#

Both are likely to be overpriced

cold spire
#

ya i can get the 1080 for 300

drowsy kiln
#

Or get a used 1070 for $200 on your local market

cold spire
#

from a friend

warped osprey
#

i found a 660super near msrp

tender mulch
#

I mean

warped osprey
#

1660*

gritty notch
tender mulch
#

you can wait a little bit and for your $300 get even more performance

drowsy kiln
#

I relize your joking or at least hope you are

cold spire
#

like eveything is soo overpriced

gritty notch
cold spire
#

a 1660 super for 500

gritty notch
tender mulch
#

Mmhmmm

torn yarrow
tender mulch
#

3060TI is $400 and 2080 level

drowsy kiln
#

Oh wait you actually have your AIO in the front. Nope thats worse than dusty systems ngl

tender mulch
#

so

warped osprey
#

i hate when people see canadian dollars and compare it as the same value as american then recommend a wack priced gpu

gritty notch
tender mulch
#

What's the exchange right, like, .125 right now?

#

Sorry

#

1.25

drowsy kiln
gritty notch
#

literally 0mm clearance

tender mulch
#

lili knows what she's doing

#

Just let her do her own thing

drowsy kiln
#

welp I'll come back ltr if it doesnt go as planned

tender mulch
#

Best way

drowsy kiln
#

tks for the help

tender mulch
#

YW

gritty notch
#

true i do some weird stuff sometimes keeeek

warped osprey
#

this channel just temporarily died lmao

tender mulch
#

happens all the time

#

Until someone has a question, it ded

vivid arch
#

if i have a 1070 any way to squeeze out 60 fps in cyberpunk 77 or is the game just unoptimized?

gritty notch
#

maybe turn down resolution scaler

vivid arch
#

i don't want to

#

lol jk, scaler was something that slipped my mind

gritty notch
#

but yeah 2077 is a pc melter

vivid arch
#

i honestly thought it was just unoptimized, but my gpu is a rust, but i love it

tender mulch
#

CP2077 is the new Crysis

vivid arch
#

i thought cyberpunk was gonna be like gta or fallout where it's cpu dependant

gritty notch
#

it also is cpu dependent

#

nextgen title requres nextgen specs keeeek

tender mulch
#

It hammers my 3700x and RTX2060

gritty notch
#

shocker of the century

tender mulch
#

But i'm also 1440p

#

I'm lucky to pull 60 FPS on medium settings

vivid arch
#

websites/youtubers be like: how to run the game on the lowest settings- my build is a 3080 ryzen 9 5950x 32 gb ram 3600mhz, nothing special

tender mulch
#

Even WITH DLSS

gritty notch
#

same i maxed the game out on my 2080 and get like

#

high forties dipping to the 20s

#

thats psycho rt tho

vivid arch
#

the side quests have been keeping me busy, fun game, but anything i do feel like it cracks the game lol

warped osprey
#

say goodbye to can it run crysis and say hello to can it it even cp77

drowsy kiln
#

It all seems to be working. Sure CPU thermals are horrible but again new thermal paste and cleaning should fix that right up.

#

It's not dangerously high. Running aroud the low 70s -> high 70s

gritty notch
#

how horrible

drowsy kiln
#

That's under load while running Cinebench

gritty notch
#

torture test the cpu and see if it turns off

drowsy kiln
#

Lets get through the GPU benchmark 1st lol

#

finishing up Cinebench soon

gritty notch
#

yea for sure

#

run both at the same time

drowsy kiln
#

oh god

vivid arch
#

cyberpunk, crysis and gta v

#

oh and minecraft

gritty notch
#

run gpu load and cpu load at the same time

#

see if it turns off

drowsy kiln
#

oh thought u meant the CPU stress and Cinebench

#

It's struggling with Cinebench as it is

#

About 1/2 way through Cinebench R23

tender mulch
#

Yeah, that processor will struggle

#

but it's good heat load

drowsy kiln
#

Exactly

#

But seems to be working just fine nothing is crashing or anything

tender mulch
#

If temps are in the 70's it's fine

#

Thermal limit is 100C

gritty notch
#

which is why im saying to test both at once

drowsy kiln
#

Exactly 70s are fine. Not good but fine

gritty notch
#

which is why it may be an issue with both components being under load SMH

tender mulch
#

Time for DDU graphics drivers, then 3DMARK with HWINFO open to GPU temps

gritty notch
#

and if not then ddu and everything will be nice and cute

coarse spindle
#

most wouldn't call computer stability "cute", but yes lol

gritty notch
#

what i want to call it gets me warned keeeek

drowsy kiln
#

Right everything works. Going to have him game on it for a bit check temps and then run the GPU stress test for around 1-2 hours at night

#

We ran the test for 10m apready and no issues temps stayed around high 60s and low 70s

tender mulch
#

Good

drowsy kiln
#

Welp thanks again i was trying for 3 days didnt even think about using a DDU or whatever. We uninstalled them ourselves but idk whatever

tender mulch
#

Yeah, nVidia uninstall doesn't remove everything

#

Any time you install a new GPU, always use DDU to remove the old drivers

drowsy kiln
#

Welp i leanred something as well so good for us both

tender mulch
#

Hope it's fixed!

gritty notch
#

learning new things is 90% of the fun

drowsy kiln
#

Yea all seems good. Stress test over night and were all good

tender mulch
#

I learn every day

#

and I been doing this for 20+ years lol

drowsy kiln
#

He just wants to play cause hes had this system for 5 days and couldnt do anything

clear pier
gritty notch
#

nice legs

clear pier
#

Lol

#

Can’t wait to get home and plop this in

jade ferry
#

@clear pier dayum where u brought it from ? 👀

clear pier
#

I was able to purchase a 3060ti on Monday and it was ready today at bestbuy

#

Stock stayed for a hole 5 min

clear pier
jade ferry
#

Huh? nope

clear pier
#

Do you want me to invite you it is the only way you will get one online

jade ferry
#

Yes plz

lone pond
#

yo I got a uestion

#

so I've been playing a lot of borderlands 2 and I've been noticing that even though my cap is set to 120 in some places it drops, but the gpu itself isn't going on max load and instead is just sitting in 60-70% load, does this have to do with anything cpu bound?

#

I can understand it happening on areas with a lot of bodies and stuff but in many cases just staring at some areas my framerate gets dropped to like 80 fps

zealous mist
#

got a 3080 and a 3090 on order now... end of jan delivery

#

need to decide which one to cancel

lone pond
#

what do you do?

#

if gaming a 3090 is just overkill but specifically for your wallet

#

but the vram might come in handy

#

for other areas

#

you're most likely never gonna need 24 GB even on 4k

#

Dose it matter what kind of mother board you will the graphic card still work I’m new at this

#

it will

#

depending on it the pcie lane might affect slightly the performance

#

but it'll work just fine

#

Okay thanks

#

the cpu is a bigger concer

#

n

zealous mist
#

10850k so I'm doing fine

lone pond
#

talking to silent kekw

zealous mist
#

yeet

lone pond
#

but yea those things are said are the only thing really worth spending for the 3090

#

the performance is negligible mostly

#

specially with how big the price gap is

zealous mist
#

my reason for the 10-15% better is mostly that I want to keep it a long while

#

1.8x price is a concern though yea

lone pond
#

yeah if you're gonna skip like 3 gens then sure

zealous mist
#

I've got a rtx 780 rn

#

haha

lone pond
#

lole that's 5 gens if I'm not wrong lmao

#

yea a 3090 will do

zealous mist
#

uhh I think it went 7xx>9xx>10xx>20xx>30xx

lone pond
#

sad thing is I can't tell you to get a 3080ti because getting one is uhh yeah

#

not possible

zealous mist
#

ehh supposed to be jan

lone pond
#

3080ti is the card that will actually have decent value

#

compared to 3090 at least

#

10 gb is too little but 24gb is too much for gaming

zealous mist
#

yea that's the issue I was thinking abouyt

#

and I didn't want to wait for the 3080 ti

#

but neither of my current orders comes until almost feb anyway

#

new date jan 19

#

🤔

#

do I hold out for 3080 ti

lone pond
#

probs best thing

zealous mist
#

and not get it until like...april

lone pond
#

it being shipped to you jan probably means they don't really have cards or there's delays because christmas

#

or bos

#

both*

zealous mist
#

either way blt already said they(my 3080) aren't coming in stock until jan 25 and I've heard they are notorious for pushing dates

#

so worst case I cancel later

gritty notch
#

and 3090 will be more futureproofed because vram

zealous mist
#

yea that's why I pretty much am thinking now it's either wait for 3080ti or get 3090 now

#

can always sli the 3090 later too if I need to overkill things even more in the future

#

haha

tender mulch
#

Games don't support SLI anymore TBH

zealous mist
#

hmmm

jaunty crypt
zealous mist
#

yea I'm expecting that

tender mulch
#

It should be priced between the 3080 and the 3090

zealous mist
#

was thinking probs $900 for 3080ti

jaunty crypt
#

Yeah, that sounds about right

tender mulch
#

Ye but wait for perf tests before buying

jaunty crypt
#

Depending on card partner models, I think a few will hit or tip 1k

zealous mist
#

probs

viscid dagger
#

When are one of the 30 series coming

#

They haven’t put one out in a while

sturdy oasis
#

anybody wanna help explain to me why I can't run mhw for more than an hour without a crash to desktop

coarse spindle
#

@sturdy oasis what system?

sacred crow
#

is a 5600x fine with a 3080? Pc will only really be used for gaming

sturdy oasis
#

ryzen 5 3600, rtx 2060 super, 32gb 3200mhz ram, 1.5tb m.2 nvme storage, sf600 gold plus corsair powersupply, gigabyte x570 pro wifi mobo

#

its my on the go system that i built that is itx

#

@coarse spindle

coarse spindle
#

hmm... check the drivers, heat and PSU

#

those are the normal culprits

sturdy oasis
#

drivers are up-to-date(used driver easy), max temps with cpu is 62.C, max temp with gpu is 72.C, and PSU?

coarse spindle
#

I have had problems with instability on PSUs before... but other than that IDK

sturdy oasis
#

how wold I check the psu @coarse spindle ?

coarse spindle
#

sorry I am not sure....

idle rover
#

can't help but think as I do my build ....... Black Flag - Black Coffee!!!!

sturdy oasis
#

ok well thanks @coarse spindle , will look into it👍

fiery hound
#

Looking at a Zotac 1080 mini for $250. Anyone have an opinion on that deal?

#

Feels kinda dirty buying a 4 year old card for that price

gritty notch
#

z omegalul tac

vivid arch
#

I always wondered, can you sli a 1070 3gb and a 6gb? Or does it have to be the same gddr

coarse spindle
#

@gritty notch nice DIY lol

fiery hound
#

I've seen others mention Zotac. What's the deal with them and the hate? I've Been out of the gpu game for almost a decade

#

My last gpu purchase was a msi geforce gtx 660 😆

cloud pendant
#

Almost had a 3060ti on Amazon. Bots beat me again

#

Fml

drowsy kiln
#

Unigine Valley Benchmark will just run infinitly correct?

#

Don't have to change a config file or anything

astral bay
#

Question for people who know more about stock than me, i know someone who is selling an evga hybrid cooled 2070 super for $500 should i go with that or wait until stock levels on 30 series, i currently have a msi 1650 super

opal trellis
quartz fiber
#

Ik

lone pond
#

bots are much less prevalent on amazon

timid willow
#

bots are absolutely all over amazon

spare ember
#

thoughts on the 3060ti compared to the 3070 and 3080s

lone pond
#

Carted and checked out first button press..

terse night
#

Is Newegg still empty?

fiery hound
#

regular 3060 is still rumored for January right?

rapid moon
#

They need to make more stock then gpu s tbh

fiery hound
#

Agreed. Although the regular 3060 is more the price point that I'm looking for. However, it won't matter if I can't find it.

fickle sequoia
#

I have been summoned

fiery hound
#

do you bring..cards of graphics?

fickle sequoia
#

no my precious stayed with me

fiery hound
#

then return to whence you came

#

😄

fickle sequoia
#

🧑‍💻

arctic coral
#

when are 3080s back on stock?

tender mulch
#

No one knows, keep tabs on the stores

arctic coral
#

do you think it would take up till like april?

prime niche
#

When are gtx 1660s cards back in stock

tender mulch
#

Discontinued

gritty notch
warped osprey
#

how much will a normal 3060 cost or is that still not out yet?

warped osprey
fiery hound
#

@warped osprey I don't think official pricing has been released, but estimates I've seen are around $300

#

Rumor is that there will be 6gb and 12gb models

warped osprey
#

you know me, cheap raw power, 6gb ftw

stark grove
#

i have a question, i’m looking to buy either a 3070 or 3060ti and i only have one 8 pin pcie cable available. if i use an 8 pin to dual 8 pin splitter would i still be able to use the card?

gritty notch
#

just upgradep su

#

unless u wanna risk popping your card/psu

clear pier
#

If you get the 3060 ti fe you only need 1 8 pin

thorny wagon
#

Thoughts on the 5500xt

timid willow
#

@lone pond oh nice they must have been aggressively banning the used addresses or something

rose mortar
#

I would surely get a 3070 before ever getting a 3060ti it is only a $50 difference and you get a lot more bang for the dollar

#

hmm 5500xt only has 128 bit but if you can go a little more of an investment and nab a 5600xt you then jump up to 6 gigs memory with a 192 bit data path

#

I myself am waiting for the restock on the 3070 and plan on buying one. at $480 it is a decent deal

#

or perhaps I will stick with ATIs line and get the 6800 instead..my current main cards are 1 5700XT and an Asrock Vega 56 neither of which I have installed yet he he

gritty notch
rose mortar
#

looking into the 6800 and 6900 series ATI has been shown to beat the 3080 and even the 3090 in many aspects and it is much less costly

gritty notch
#

nah

#

just in 1 or 2

#

mostly gaming

rose mortar
#

but I do want , at least, one nvidia card

gritty notch
#

and thats with no dlss

rose mortar
#

you tube has some great reviews on the ati vs invidia lines

#

or nvidia

gritty notch
#

What do u plan on doing on the card

rose mortar
#

gaming mostly

gritty notch
#

If u do anything related to video ignore amd entirely

#

And if you do anything related to 3d renders

rose mortar
#

I like to build ,min, 3 new gaming rigs every time some interesting new parts come to bare

gritty notch
#

Also ignore amd completely

#

On the gpu side

rose mortar
#

i just sure hope ati gets off their asses and will finally make a card that does not require massive tweaking.. hoping the 6800/6900 series is all set

gritty notch
#

Nah

#

Still bad for any kind of productivity

#

It sucks i want out of the nvidia ecosystem

rose mortar
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I been using , mainlt ati vid cards ever since the old 8500 series came out, way back when

winter dagger
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@rose mortar the 6800/6900 is better for gaming with 0 ray tracing than their Nvidia equivalents. But as soon as you factor in productivity and other features like ray tracing Nvidia offers better options

rose mortar
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i bet your right sincw nvidia has had a lot more experience in the ray tracing tech

winter dagger
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This is because AMD put a lot of focus on gaming and sort of forgot to improve productivity elements

winter dagger
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They have proper RT cores

gritty notch
winter dagger
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And AMD doesn’t

gritty notch
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And thats also

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With dlss off

winter dagger
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Yeah

gritty notch
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Dlss on is literally just curbstomping amd

winter dagger
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Yeah

gritty notch
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Its like intel vs amd back in bulldozer days

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Not even fair lol

rose mortar
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what do you all think of the i5 umm 10600k is it? i know it is the 600k but not sure of the 10 part.. anyway that i5 is /was considered the best gaming cpu in the intl lineup

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I am very impressed with the 3700X amd cpu it rocks

gritty notch
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10 means 10th gen

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Its alright

rose mortar
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right

winter dagger
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The 10600K is solid

rose mortar
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I mainly am gaming in the ARK world and this i5 7th gen laptop i am currently on only has the 1050ti gpu and it plays the game perfectly. i also have an acer aspire 7 with an 8th gen i7 and a 1060 that really looks good. also both laptops play pubG nicely

winter dagger
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You can’t compare laptop processors to desktop

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Desktop processors pummel laptop processors

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This is due to the amount of power they can draw versus the laptop

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Also laptop processor cores are fairly simple and weak in power

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Desktop processors are more complex and can sustain more instructions per clock

gritty notch
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Acer sucks btw

rose mortar
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newegg has a great deal on a gaming laptop that has an i7 10th gen cpu and a 1070 for $1199 that i keep almost buying. but once my gameroom is cleared out i will be able to go back to the desktops and once that is done i would have no use for the gaming laptops

gritty notch
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Thank me later

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Grab a clevo laptop and ull be s e t

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I could honestly make a clevo my only pc and be happy

rose mortar
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I have had nothing but great performance from the 2 acer laptops

gritty notch
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Cool

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As a sysadmin and laptop repair person

gritty notch
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Im telling you they make nothing but hot garbage

winter dagger
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But I would wait for a desktop

rose mortar
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and i game for as long as 12 hours plus and these 2 laptops keep chugging along

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the aspire7 is a hot HOT running laptop . i got lucky with the aspire 7 i ended up with as i have read so many horror stories about the laptop burning up for others

gritty notch
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Just dont buy acer anymore

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Clevo is the brand to buy

rose mortar
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so Phantom what rigs do you have and how do you like them??

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the other laptop i mentioned with the 10th gen i7 and the 3070 dedicated vid for $1199 is an asus

gritty notch
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3070 laptops currently do not exist keeeeek

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Inb4 2070mq

rose mortar
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sure they do go look em up at newegg

winter dagger
gritty notch
rose mortar
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sounds good PhantomCat

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my ols 8350 8 core rig has a 580 in it and i only planned on using it for my twitch broadcast

winter dagger
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Ah nice

rose mortar
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but i figured i would use my 1700 1st gen 8 core 16 thread amd rig with the vega 56 instead

winter dagger
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Yeah that’s nice

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Vega 56 is a dope card

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Not sure about gaming tho

gritty notch
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Vega 56 is cool

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Lots of headroom to oc

rose mortar
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sleeper card the vega 56 you just must know how to tweak for a week to get the cookie out of it

gritty notch
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Yep

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I had a 64

winter dagger
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Dam

gritty notch
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1050ti ended up slapping it across the room

rose mortar
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plus i nabbed it for $250 last year

gritty notch
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So i sold keeeeek

winter dagger
rose mortar
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see right now i am stuck gaming in bed hence the laptops but this nitro 5 acer with its 1050ti 4 gig ram has played all the games i play atm quite well

winter dagger
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Dang

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4 gigs of ram??!!

rose mortar
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something happened to steam program on my aspire 7 with the i7 and the 1060 6 gig mem so i been using this old nitro 5 until i have the patience to reinstall steam etc

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the 1050 series only offers 2 or 4 on the memory

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much prefer 8

winter dagger
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Oooohhhhh vram

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I thought you meant system ram

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Lmao

rose mortar
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all my rigs have min 16 but the aspire has 32gigs and the new desktop has 4xs 16 gig sticks in it . so 64 gigs in that new one i am still building

winter dagger
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Noice

drowsy kiln
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Yea going into 2021 anything below 8gb of vram will begin to feel slow as newer games that will "require" more vram come out.

rose mortar
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nice if i can actually finish building it lol..bought all the parts in 2019 november - december

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see i sold my business which was a pawn/computer shop and a lot of the inventory ended up in my game room . i planned on ebaying most of it but that did not work out so i have zero space at the desks to set up the new rigs and use em

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for sure WildGust

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figure on getting either the 16 gig ati 6800 or the nvidia 3070 asap

drowsy kiln
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Yea I'm chilling with a R5 2600x and RX 580 8gb for the time being. Next summer hopefully when the market is decently priced I'll begin to flip PCs again to get money for a new rig

rose mortar
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i am hoping the 675 watt gold rated power supply will handle the vega 56 but am not sure..anyone have input on whether or not it will handle it? i believe it is a thermaltake power supply

gritty notch
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Ew tt

rose mortar
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lol again i have had huge success with TT

gritty notch
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Theyre the trash brand

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Just like acer

rose mortar
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it is the rosewills that have been a nightmare..every customer that had a sytem failure and a rosewill power supply usually needed a new power supply

gritty notch
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Yes neither are good

rose mortar
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Acer was a brand i would never touch a good few years ago but they have come a long way since they sucked

gritty notch
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They still suck

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Because competition exists

rose mortar
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i have always been partial to viewsonic myself as they make some kick azz monitors

coarse spindle
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yeah

gritty notch
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Theyre alright yeah

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Imo never acer never tt

coarse spindle
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good to see another VS fan

gritty notch
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Dell exists and so does clevo and so does lenovo

coarse spindle
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dude I just bought an acer

gritty notch
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No reason to get trashtops keeeeek

rose mortar
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i will never buy any samsung screens since they screwed me on one that had a 3 year warranty and they made it impossible to get it replaced

gritty notch
coarse spindle
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wah

gritty notch
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How much

coarse spindle
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it is a 4k 144hz 27" predator

gritty notch
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Oh im talking laptops

coarse spindle
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for only 450$

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ooh

gritty notch
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Idc abt their displays cause they dont actually make the panels

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So theyre allowed to be good keeeeek

coarse spindle
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yay

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I get storage queen approval

gritty notch
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But their computers

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Okf

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Oof

coarse spindle
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yeah

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the old acer laptops were ok

gritty notch
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Ill be honest

rose mortar
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i would never buy an acer desktop as i have worked on every brand in my old shop but the laptops seem fine.. this nitro 5 i5 1050ti has endured thousands of hours in gaming for more than 2-3 years

coarse spindle
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have worked on them a lot

gritty notch
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If someone says they know abt computers and then dailies an acer laptop

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My opinion of them nosedives

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Trash brand

rose mortar
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lol

gritty notch
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Would rather HP

rose mortar
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and this nitro 5 was even a refurb when i bought it!

gritty notch
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Id rather use a pavilion keeeeek

coarse spindle
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yeah

rose mortar
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what do you all think about the MSI lineup of gaming laptops?

coarse spindle
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used to have a pavillion AIO but it went to crap

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@rose mortar hasda gf63 stealth

gritty notch
coarse spindle
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was a really good deal but it died

rose mortar
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i also have a 17" pavillion and it has amd tech and it has been great also

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i like to watch dvds when waiting in a vehicle

gritty notch
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Are u just trying to get all the worst brands honor bound

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Lol

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Look go to xoticpc

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Look at the clevo laptops they have there

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Fall in love

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Never go back

coarse spindle
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what about asus?

gritty notch
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Theyre ok

rose mortar
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i will thank you for the suggestion...btw does newegg offer the clevo lineup?

gritty notch
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Nope

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Just go to xotic

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Theyre an oem

coarse spindle
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had a asus netbook a long time ago

gritty notch
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Ppl rebrand them

rose mortar
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i suppose you hate my Asus motherboards too

gritty notch
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I like asus boards

coarse spindle
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yeah, they good

rose mortar
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all new rigs are asus except for one that is asrock

gritty notch
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Asrock is uh

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Less than good

rose mortar
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it is an X370 Killer SLI/ac board

coarse spindle
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have an asrock x399 board running rn

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came with an SLI bridge lol

gritty notch
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Lol

coarse spindle
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and a postcard

rose mortar
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i have the 1700 amd 8 core cpu in it

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ryzens and more ryzens

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is not the x399 a threadripper cpu mobo?

gritty notch
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Yep don and i are cpu twins keeeeek

rose mortar
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NICE which cpu did you get and how do you like it?

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donbot which generation

gritty notch
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One of my hosts is a 2950x

dreamy dragonBOT
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HonorBound777#1479 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

rose mortar
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poop then

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i was saying i been contemplating building a threadripper rig for poops and giggles

gritty notch
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Lame

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Buy an epyc from me keeeeek

rose mortar
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not sure of the gains are worth the large price tag when the newest ryzen cpus are coming so close to the same performance as the threadripper in the price range i could afford

gritty notch
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Threads

rose mortar
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i just bought sooo many components recently

gritty notch
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Get more >:))))

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Build a homelab

rose mortar
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i placed 4 darkflash rgb fans the realized they only had 11 cfm power so i bought new ones frrom apevia that offer 57 cfm so its back to re replacing these 4 fans

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i sure wish NewEgg would restock on gpus ..these scalper prices are insane

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i been buying from NewEgg since 2001 and i love them

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newegg used to have such great open box deals . they have since changed the price structure and it is surely not worth the meager savings

gritty notch
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Newegg got bought out and quality suffered tbh

rose mortar
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yes that was a sad day for me

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then adding the collection of sales tax also put a hurting on me

coarse spindle
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i plugged in a HDD into a 500 watt seasonic gold PSU that is more than enough for the system, and there was a big bang and the PC woulnt start up until I turned on and off the PSU switch

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happened to all the HDDs I have tried

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I think the PSU might be wonky

gritty notch
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Yeah

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Seasonic is uh

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Idk

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Ppl love them

rose mortar
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whoever said that they do not offer gaming laptops with the 3070 was right.. i was wrong they are 2070s oops

gritty notch
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Have had nothing but bad experiences with them

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It was me hehe

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You looked at xotic yet?

rose mortar
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that day i was looking at both gaming laptops and gaming desktops

gritty notch
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Youll lose it when u see some of their clevo stuff

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i9 desktop cpu in a laptop

rose mortar
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corsair and evga seem to be the best power supplies though i have had great success with thermaltake

gritty notch
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Thermaltake sucks

rose mortar
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lol

gritty notch
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It goes superflower, some evga, some corsair, most be quiet

rose mortar
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10 year warranty they can not be that bad.. i have old gaming rigs that still power up perfectly with their old thermaltakes

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yes superflower seems to have shown up as a great PS they say they were the ones that made many of the evga brand power supplies

gritty notch
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Yep

rose mortar
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and they have a great deal on a superflower 850 watt gold rated PS for less than $130 atm'

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i think i will go order that one now. that way i will be sure that it will power the vega 56 i have.. not sure the 675 watt one i currently have will do it since they say 750watt is best for the vega 56

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so suggestions should i buy this $1200 MSI GL75 Leopard 10SFK-029 - 17.3" 144 Hz - Intel Core i7-10750H - GeForce RTX 2070 - 16 GB DDR4 - 1 TB HDD + 512 GB SSD - Windows 10 or should i wait to get the $490 rx 3070 vid card hmm?
i mean $700 more i can get a complete laptop with good stats or a very nice vid card

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well off i go I hope you all had a nice Christmas and that 2021 changes our dire situation in all our lives...peace

rose mortar
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no on MSI laptop?

gritty notch
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Clevo or bust

rose mortar
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ok i am going to look up the Cleevo brand right now

brave lava
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Hello, I’m completing my build and just about to install my graphics card. I have a gt 710, I have to install it here right ?

gritty notch
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Xoticpc is the best clevo reseller

rose mortar
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ty again for the heads up on that brand

gritty notch
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No

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Np

rose mortar
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🙂

gritty notch
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You can get some crazy stuff lol

frozen raft
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anyone has any idea when are GPUs getting restocked

hybrid kettle
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@brave lava just search up how to install a gpu on YouTube

tight crater
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Yea I’m pretty sure that’s not where it goes

candid maple
spice prawn
cold spire
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the card i was gonna get went from 450 to 699

candid maple
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complete crap