#graphics-cards
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what is a good price for a 1080ti?
i mean the 3060ti and 1080ti are not much of a difference 5-10 fps difference in almost every game
@torn yarrow so i wouldn't buy one for over 400
i would wait for stock and go from there
Yeah I plan on playing some RPGs on 4k. Shooters for my 1080p monitor.
ok
Okay, so yeah there will be quite the bottleneck for 1080p
r7 2700x is good enough for 4k
But honestly, it depends on the game
Like if it's Esport type titles, eh I mean you're still getting hundreds of frames typically
facts
Like I dunno Siege for example
60fps+ easy
later on you could possible upgrade but a r7 2700x is perfectly fine
they even used a r3 3300x in a video for comparison it ain't that bad
I mean if it out performs my current card then I'm fine with it lol But I've been playing RPGs more so fps above 60 doesn't really matter.
2600x with 1660 super is that okay or should i upgrade/downgrade?
@warped osprey budget?
$1,520 CAD
staying on x470
ooh ok
its an msi x470 gaming plus max im pretty sure
well, If you find someone with a 3900x with buyers remorse and a 3080
that should work
your build seems good enough for now anyway
although maybe see if you can find an older RTX card
so there is no issue with 2600x with 1660 super?
not really. they are a well matched pair
r6, vrchat, eve online, minecraft, world of tanks and world of warships and gta 5
is it worth upgrading to a 1070 from a rx 570?
?
I can’t read
But to answer, there’s no point really
hmmmmmmmmmm
Go 20/30 series
im poor
ik and thank you
Nope, save up for a 1660 super at least
Now is a bad time to upgrade, things arent really in stock
bruh a 1080 and 1080 ti is better than a 1660 super what are you saying?
no
I must be stupid
just cuz the number is bigger does not mean its better
Save up for a 3060 or 2070-2080 then
GTX 1080 is 44% better than a 1660 super
i swear if people use that bs
Anytime you see X is xx% better than x you know
uh-, yes
1080 is better, yes, but not by a huge margin
yep
1080 ti is kinda like a 50%-ish better than 1660 super
1660 super and ti basically have no difference
a 2060 isnt worth it tbh
i'd rather get a 3060/3070 or 2060 super/2070
I got a 1650 what should I upgrade to😭
I would say 3060 ti
Because you probably don’t have the cpu to go with the 3070 or 3080 and the 60 ti is 400 bucks
If you can get one of corse
The 50 will come out soon too. That should be a pretty good pair
should i go with a 1070 and get a way better power supply or 1080 no power supply
and the 1080 isnt guaranteed
I think you should wait for GPU prices and stock to stabilize 🙂
1-2 months
More GPU's releasing next month too
3060 non-TI
maybe a 3050
Plus some from AMD also if rumors are true
Never say never
100% serious. Any 1000 series you buy is honestly a waste of money RN
and how much would they cost
3050 probs $300
3060 non-ti probs $350
If I had to guess
Maybe 3050 $250?
No prices yet
wow

But I know what my time and money is worth
nope but if you know who lucid is he said you can always acquire money but time you cant
( i just made that up tbh)
That's how I think of it. I buy things with time, not money.
yes
Guys is the 1660s a better card than the rx580 and if I can only get the worse of the two should I just wait or get the worse one
1660s obliterates the 580
yes
no competition
Okay thanks
but i think you should wait
Yeah it’s really expensive right now
yeah
they are in way different price classes
my pc looks jank asf
dang, wouldn't expect the chosen one to have a jank PC
Question for you guys! I just got a new case and I’m trying out vertical mounting for the first time. Is this even worth keeping and just monitoring temps like crazy or is it a definite problem?
(Never mind I can’t attach a pic, but the gpu is literally touching the side panel)
just stress test it and watch temps
but also get another opinion because idk anything about vertical mounting
I have a 1660 super and ryzen 5 3600x. Should I upgrade my gpu?
no
Hey
nice gpu
A 3070 is more powerful than a 3060Ti, which is best will depend on your budget and use case @amber stratus
@green harness my friends budget is 1300
I'm not the best person to help you figure out exactly what the best bang for the buck at that price is, but I think either gpu could fit at that budget IF the gpu is at msrp and if 1300 is just for the pc (not a monitor, keyboard, etc)
Yeah with out monitor keyboard
Ok, I'd recommend finding out what resolution and refresh rate your friend's monitor is and then looking at the performance of the two cards at that res/refresh. My impression is there isn't much need to go up to a 3070 for 1080p for example
Will 2K resolution monitor needs the RTX 30 series then?
What is the refresh rate of the monitor?
my 3070 won’t initialize anymore
my motherboard beeps at me 5 times
any help here?
Is there a particular reason to go with nvidia over Radeon?
Drivers and streaming
Which is better? If either is better
IMO, nVidia. Better for streaming and better software
@oblique spoke 5 beeps = CPU, not GPU.
Check CPU fan and CPU power
you can go for 30xx or 60xx
both cards are fine for 1440p
but imo the 30xx is better due to RTSS so you can get some extra frames.
@night mica Nvidia and AMD drivers are on almost equal footing right now, buy whatever is available that you can afford. If you're a real picky person for detail, get something with more than 8gb of VRAM as we've already seen a few games that will use more than 8gb. If you want ray tracing right now at playable frame-rates, go nvidia. If you don't care much about ray tracing or wouldn't mind using it at a later date, the AMD cards right now often have more VRAM than nvidia cards in the same price bracket - this will make them stay relevant longer for gaming at high details and high resolutions. If gaming at 4k with ray tracing on is your thing, definitely go for more than 8gb of VRAM.
TL-DR, get what is available to purchase in your price range.
Oh, sick. The card I was looking at was the RX 5600XT
@oblique spoke You can google motherboard beep codes for your model of motherboard. Your motherboard model is usually silk-screened onto the board somewhere below the CPU socket or next to it. You may have to remove the GPU or the CPU cooler to see it.
You can sometimes forgot to re-plug your CPU power EPS12V 8-pin cable(s) when installing a GPU as sometimes it's impossible to route the EPS12V anywhere but over the video card due to cable length issues.
@night mica Get whatever you can afford. Right now 8gb is nice for 1080p / 1440p, but if it gets slow, consider knocking down texture details one notch to get things playable again as there's a few games that came out this year that want more than 8gb. For what a 5600xt costs, it's not a bad option. If you get it at a discounted price, even better.
Some folks were doing tricks with the 5600xt BIOS flashing to try turning it into a slightly-power-hungry 5700 series card. The GPU is quite similar, but I believe a lower yield (I do not own one, but I keep up to date on PC hardware news by inhaling all the info I can find constantly). I don't think you'll want to mess with that BIOS trick unless you're god-level with PC hardware, as otherwise it is a plenty good card and should give you a few years of gaming for a decent price.
@tender mulch Some games can go over 8gb, more-so with ray tracing and other nvidia features which need some VRAM to do their magic. It's not required to have more than 8gb and it might not make a visible difference in most proper game engines (which will unload assets not in scene when it gets low).
I don't wish to again say how limiting it is trying to fit everything into 8gb of VRAM without resorting to mud textures or building-windows that are two dimensional stickers, ugh.
If it's what you can afford, no crime in that. I have 8gb here, I do hobbies of game design and such, it can easily be overwhelmed especially when modding newer games. That said, knocking texture details down to half resolution in any game that should go over is not often very noticeable and definitely won't detract from gameplay.
Sigh.
I'm with you on the sigh, it's too early for that type of talk anywho.
Game design =/= gaming
DO read some reviews of latest games though, they're slowly starting to want more VRAM now that there's cards out beyond the top 1% that have over 8gb. It's a bit of the chicken and the egg theory with PC hardware and gaming. Sometimes PCMR stuff isn't always fun and games.
Honestly, I can't wait for games to make use of the new video card tech and specs. It's going to be so much more immersive in every way in a few years when the new consoles and cards have been out for a bit and have somewhat saturated the market.
Hopefully I can get something with more memory than this 2070 Thuper (said with sarcastic lisp) has.
I have. If someone is looking at a 5600XT, they aren't going for 1440p gaming (or shouldn't be). 8 GB VRAM is fine.
Also, with 30 series, everyone is quick to bash the QTY of ram without thinking about the bandwidth. It matters.
Hey guys can i ask a question? I was planning to buy a mid range gpu, what gpu do u prefer? Rx 5500xt or gtx 1660s thanks!
Yes RAM bandwidth matters a lot depending on what you're doing. However, to charge 500+ $ for something that's only got the same amount of VRAM as an older card, only to turn around and make cards 'coming soon' next month / 6 weeks after the competition came out with 16gb (even if it's not all used yet, which it isn't), just seems a bit shady.
Some of the VRAM conservation on specs of 30 series by nvidia is due to GDDR6X shortage on the market.
🍿
@old narwhal Look up hardware reviews on those cards or the games you intend to play, and pick whichever runs what you like best for the right price you're willing to pay.
Ok thanks buddy! @copper mason
1660 series is pretty decent. If you go 2060S you can get very basic ray tracing IF it's in your budget, don't expect a world of difference though as it's not very powerful when it comes to ray tracing in general.
If ray tracing does not matter, the 1660 Super or Ti or whatever the heck they named it is pretty close in performance for a bit less cost.
@gritty notch I keep running out of VRAM on an 8gb card here, but I refuse to spend 500$ plus after spending 572$ for this card a year ago (I couldn't wait on it, it was holding up production and my old card was acting up, it was what was available that didn't have disco lights).
Nvidia's streaming implementation is purportedly better and less impactful on performance.
nvenv crushes anything else on the market rn
nvenc*
some of the AI stuff i do just munches ram
Yes, I've gleaned that from reviews. It's nice to have something built in for that. Another nice feature on nvidia cards with Ray Tracing is just how fast even a lower model Turing card can do ray tracing in 3d modeling and graphics design software (read: blink and it's done).
Ohh ok buddy thanks!
amd is just complete garbo for productivity tbh
it makes me upset that they dare to sell workstation cards 
A 2070 Super is much, much faster on ray tracing a scene than my 3950x is (stock settings with DOCP ram profile enabled). I believe the 2070 Super is about 3~5x faster than the CPU. Unbelievable.
yep thats what dedicated hw will get ya
imo amd gpu vs nvidia gpu
0 contest
for any sort of productivity work
amd just gets absolutely bodied
no one in pro scene takes any of their gpus seriously
My Radeon RX 480 8gb kept crashing the snot out of everything. Was great on Windows 7 not a single issue. Put it on this Windows 10 machine and it wouldn't keep on it's stock clocks. Tried everything, finally DEC 2 2019 it scrambled the desktop, it went back to live in a box after that, couldn't stand it anymore.
lmao yeah
im telling you
next gpu just use nvidia
best choice ull make i promise 
2060 for ray tracing is poo. Too much of an FPS hit even in 1080p
2060 for accelerating rt in projects is fantastic
its stupid that it wasnt just marketed as a workstation card

I have an old Radeon HD 7850 2gb that still purrs along just fine after 7.5 years, I got it in mid 2013 when it was 'on sale'. That one works great. This 2070 Super 8gb model works great. The RX 480 8gb card had the same issue that affected MANY polaris cards in that it mimicked 'a dying card'.
I was going to just get a Radeon VII open box 16gb model, but I lost my trust in AMD GPU's. On the flip side though, AMD CPU / Chipset is great, love my 3700x and 3950x here.
Especially since a lot of my fave games are Unreal Engine. UE doesn't like GPU overclocks -_-
VII is kinda poop
source: used one for like a week
was ass
sold
Radeon VII?
UE can be a huge pain in the rear even when NOT overclocking anything. I have lost count of how many different times that there was fourth-wall breaking knocks from the developers of the game over UE antics.
OOF
Hopefully now that AMD is caught up on the CPU market, they'll spend some time on their GPU drivers
honestly either get a quadro from me or a 3080 and youll be set for years
Cuz if they nail the GPU drivers as well as nVidia, they'd have a great product
Yeah I don't want to go back to AMD GPU's unless they're half-price and there's pro-line drivers available for that card model (even if I must flash bios to install them).
still missing hw to do a lot of stugg though
Yeah but that's coming
amd will never have pro line drivers
They're making OK headway
that is a very bold assumption there
at least not in this gen
or possibly the next
as always, it comes and goes
theyre struggling to get the cards perfect for normal people
AMD's getting better, but the polaris card was a black hole for productivity here, it sucked it all in and never spit anything good out except DISPLAY DRIVER HAS RECOVERED AFTER CRASHING, HOPE YOU SAVED YOUR WORK RECENTLY type messages. I'm just shocked there's not an RX 480 shaped hole in the wall thus far.
and they know pros dont take them seriously at all
so theyre working on getting the cards perfect for gamers first
i dont know what segment you are confined in, but i really dont see that at all
encode 
theyre a joke
I would love to have an all AMD machine, but I had to switch to Nvidia for stability.
Now I'm using the 'Studio Ready' drivers for Nvidia Turing series cards, they crash but not as much. It mostly just hates my window-skinning app that I got on discount because the Windows 10 default interface was backwards, awful, and just the mockery of productivity.
I hope so too, we NEED competition.
the interesting thing, from my pov, is "are they able to do ryzen-like rollouts/improvements"
because IF they can keep to a schedule like the ryzen line has had? the consumers will win
id say maybe 2 gens from now we could have some serious competition thoygh
and im hyped
Well, I’m going with a 6 gig amd card and a ryzen 7 so once my parts arrive I’ll let you know how an all amd build runs
because at the end of the day idc about brand i care abt how the stuff performs
Oh, if they keep up with the 6000 series like they have, nVidia will have a handful
The run on hardware right now - besides console launches and factory mishaps etc, is so bad because of intel stagnating for years and AMD also not having top-tier GPUs for a long time. Now that PC hardware is advancing more than 2% annually, people have an actual reason to buy something - e.g. we have something to upgrade to, now!
Reason: Bad word usage
Oop
exactly
its weird cause i feel like for a lot of people
the 3090 is a great budget card
if youre looking at HPC at home
Scuse me what
3090 only has one fault, the price. I love it, but 1500$ ~ 2600$ for various models from basic OEM models up to the expensive ASUS GUNDAM edition... that's INSANE unless your work is footing the note on it.
except, its "only" the manufacturing arm, the R&D arm(s) have been chugging along just fine.
true but my quadros START at 3.2-3.5
3090 is literally a god tier budget card
3090 - yes IF you can find one. So rare, MSI had someone steal two pallets of them from the factory dock in China.
its just 2 pallets

even getting scalped for 3090 is cheaper than getting the quadro equivs
i mean quadro beats it in some aspects but
I don't look forward to the days of having to go into a seedy back alley in a bad part of town to do a cash-only deal for a bag of GPUs. I mean, really, c'mon, it's almost 2021, not 1921 here.
and those aspects are where the quadros belong. as they always have.
exactly
but its like
if youre a student
and need HPC for some stuff youre learning
3090 is really looking like a good budget card
(gotta love slow discord updates), this would be LOVELY for the consumers at large.
i hope this happens
I'd love a quadro, but I'm only a hobbyist doing this for fun - my current for-fun project is Los Injurus for BeamNG Drive, which is a city the size of GTA V's land mass roughly. Not an ounce of plagiarism, but it's more fun building a city in a driving simulator than a city builder game.
But darn if I can't get a nice 12~24gb card at a REASONABLE price. It doesn't need to be fast, it just needs to let me model and run the game engine live at the same time on high detail.
i HATE being vendor locked for anything
It already is great for the consumers
AMD just needs to get decent on the software front (drivers)
i mean, IF they keep it up, we might eventually get less "fanboy-ism" wars about GPU choice. Which would be nice :)
i hope so lol
I am a fanboy - only of a good deal 🙂
im tired of hearing ppl say amd is fine for video encode just cause theyre amd fans 
same lmao i simp for good deals
Yes, it'd be nice to not have to spend 40 hours a week LOOKING for a video card. You used to just be able to click a button and it'd be on it's way, whatever you wanted you could buy. Not anymore. This STINKS.
i miss the old days 
well, taken at face value, those words are not wrong. "amd makes a product that is good for video encode" <- this is true. BUT, its in their CPU line.
id say maybe to that
because cpu encode vs gpu still gets smacked
no matter who does it
amd or intel
I remember going to computer shows and picking out the Matrox Mystique/MGA and Millenium II cards I had (the G200 and G400 too). You could just go to the high-end vendors (that had anything better than a Cirrus-Logic 'Trident' branded model), and pick one out, slap down the cash or credit / debit card, and be off. Not anymore.
@gritty notch point is. Context matters for statements :)
I was in highschool in the 90's and loved buying PC parts, now it's like a needle in a hay stack.
hehe maybe
no, no maybe about that
honestly if i was building a machine for encode id prolly go intel still
quicksync is nice
remember when pc parts were dirt cheap?
Yeah, a top-tier Millenium 2 4mb AGP card was 200$ max in 1998.
the time when there was a massive difference between the different cards 2d quality :)
i still use matrox 
I have a Marvel board somewhere in storage still
That was a god-level cad card back then, and it even did well enough to run quake great if you had better than a Pentium 120 / Cyrix 6x86 PR166+
man quake hit different now
to be fair, for the performance? parts are cheap now
wasnt quake the first game that invented bunny hopping?
Quake VS Cyrix = death of Cyrix and eventual sale to VIA after a few different company hand-changes...
Quake was the rocket jumping birth-place.
b hopping in quake got CRAZY
Everytime I tried rocket jumping, I would either turn to kitty kibbles or survive with 2 health left only to fall in a lava pit. Darn lava pits, they were EVERYWHERE.
Yeah I dunno, I just know it was something to make sure to quick-save before trying to rocket jump.
oh yes
BOOM splat or BOOM splash scream scream death
I finally just beat Quake II a year ago, playing quake II RTX. Was totally worth a play through. Wish they had more old games with RT and path tracing rendering.
i still have a very vivid memory of attending a lan party in the late 90's and running across the local quake champ and just being bounced all over the bloody place
it will come :)
I think I remember Tenabrae as the quake engine of choice, that and really enjoying Quake Racer a lot more than I should have - that was a blast multiplayer.
Tenabrae came along to greatness when 3DFX got the voodoo 1 and 2 into circulation.
i had completely forgotten about Tenebrae
If I didn't have satellite internet I think I'd still be down for some Quake Racer or just good old Doom deathmatching, I loved DOOM for everything it was worth. My first 486 came with a SB16 multimedia MPC-1 kit with a 2x Matsu-something CD-ROM drive and all that. It came with a shareware copy of doom, also, and shareware warcraft, descent, and heretic. I was in heaven when I bought Doom / Doom II / more levels CD's and the like. You couldn't pry me off the computer and the doom editor unless the power went out.
If it wasn't for the doom editor and constantly murdering the pc without trying, or just cleanly going way beyond it's capabilities, I wouldn't have learned a lick about PC hardware.
Yes, descent just served to make me sick. It was a good 3~5 years before I could control the ship in descent to any amount of merit.
Well that was a refreshing trip down memory lane there...
I wore a few controllers out in my day, I think I wore through 3 different packard bell keyboards (I love their keyboards not the PC's) before the end of 2008. I literally wore THROUGH some of the keys.
hehe
the Packard boards was not something that was "that" widespread here (at least outside of companies)
I used to find them at the tech drop-off and they would give me the packard bell keyboards when I'd see them. I'd usually offload some more valuable stuff than those, and they'd give them to me. I can't find them anymore outside of ebay, and with USB allowing more than two key-presses at the same time, I must use those now.
I got a GTX 1660ti recently and it can play Rocket League and Minecraft fine but while trying to play Valorant and Fortnite the entire PC shuts off. How should I go about trying to fix this. (@ me or reply to this)
Check your power supply if it's good enough. It might not be able to run more demanding games. What power supply do you have, and how old is it?
prolly psu
Specs:
i7 4770k
16gb DDR3
GTX 1660ti
Corsair CX600M
Not a PSU issue.
drivers?
So CPU is 4-5 years old, GPU is brand new, and PSU is around 2-3 years I think (It's a friend so not totally sure and he got it used from someone)
Check PC temps, CPU specifically and drivers
Downloed off of nvidia's site directly
Would be worth a DDU and install fresh drivers
brand new GPU?
What was the old one?
No clue something 7-8 years old
yep ddu and reinstall
It's a driver wipe program
Download it, boot to safe mode, run DDU and uninstall ALL the nVidia boxes
crying i want faser ingests
Can you link one? Then the drivers needed for the system
Boot back to Windows, install fresh drivers
and yeah do that
google ddu
Here you can Download Display Driver Uninstaller, this Display Driver Uninstaller is a driver removal utility that can help you completely uninstall AMD/NVIDIA graphics card drivers and packages from your system, with...
and just go to nvidias site to download the drivers afterwards
Ok so should only need the GTX 166ti drivers not the CPU graphics drivers
Temps though?
As vintage said, DO try to reinstall drivers. Also, make sure that's it's a genuine 1660Ti if you ordered from Ebay or similar. However, if that does not help your situation, it may be time to get a newer PSU with slightly more wattage. Haswell processor uses a LOT of wattage when overclocked, so make sure not to do that, leave it stock as it should still be fast enough at stock settings.
cinebench gpu benchmark 
1660TI doesn't need more than 600 watts
Yes I realize I wanted something quick and easy to run
if it has a vga port u got scammed 
1660TI only needs 400-45W PSU
GPU - 40C
CPU - Not totally sure but don't have new thermal paste avaliable tho will tell him to order. I'll get friend to chcek CPU temps
Tell him to use HWINFO to check temps
Drivers will cause display driver reset or BSOD at worst case. It should NEVER shut the PC cleanly off if the driver goes wacky.
Cinebench doesn't really test the GPU anyway
Cinebench is more for CPU testing.
3D mark is free if you use the demo, it will show if there's instabilities for the most part.
you can get it on steam, even the demo
heaven or valley benchmark superior
Ok so current steps
- Get rid of drivers
- Reinstall drivers
- Install 3D Mark and use HWINFO to monitor temps on 2nd monitor
no needto mess with steam
No 3D mark for GPU stress
See if the CPU is thermal limiting
and then cinebench for CPU
run heaven or valley on loop
hard shut downs might be CPU thermal limit
Especially with 5 year old paste
But it can run Rocket League perfectly fine at over 100fps which is why I'm confused asf
rocket league gives no cares abt cpu perf most of the time
It's not demanding
esports games arel ght
Ok so that makes sense why Rocket League and Minecraft can run but Valorant and Fortnite cant
Ye
Ok so wipe drivers, reinsall graphics drivers, run 3D mark for GPU/Cinebench R15/R20 for CPU. Use HWINFO to monitor temps
But ya, DDU the drivers, install fresh. Test CPU temps with Cinebench R20 and HWINFO, then 3DMARK for GPU if CPU is fine
You got it
Right hope this all works thanks for your time. I'll come back ltr ofc it something comes up. Any specific thermal paste to order cause either way shuold be redone or just anything on amazon/MicroCenter
Arctic SIlver MX4 is my go to
mx4, nt-h1, kryonaut all good pastes
kryonaut is the BEST but pricing reflects that
At the very least, clean the CPU cooler. I'd imagine it's been neglected and is a fair bit dusty
my friend bought U-DIMM ram even though he had an x470
just blow it out
For that matter, the GPU too
your friend is beyond saving
ikr
Most likley if his parents are fine with it an all might go to his house and just clean the entire thing. Then do the 4 steps myself.
Good idea
Cause 7 year old CPU its probs got a crap ton of dust
or just have him join this server 
I'd imagine so
helping through someone else is always worse than helping directly
no, pls don't. Pics of nasty CPU coolers trigger my OCD XD
really wish noctua's best cpu coolers werent brown and beige
make him scream
They have black ones
dark rock 4: helo
AIO's, hello
i get triggered when i see an aio installed the wrong way
idk exactly where someone else might know better but there is somewhere to do it
yep
Exactly
Hoses at the top front mount makes me cringe
ikr
Top AIO, Front 3x120mm, Rear 1x120mm
what is better 1660 super oc or 1080
1080
1080 all the way
any reasons why
But with prices right now, neither
1080 definitely
Both are likely to be overpriced
ya i can get the 1080 for 300
Or get a used 1070 for $200 on your local market
from a friend
i found a 660super near msrp
I mean
1660*
tfw thats how my threadripper system is cooled

you can wait a little bit and for your $300 get even more performance
I relize your joking or at least hope you are
like eveything is soo overpriced
me? no
a 1660 super for 500

Mmhmmm

3060TI is $400 and 2080 level
Oh wait you actually have your AIO in the front. Nope thats worse than dusty systems ngl
so
i hate when people see canadian dollars and compare it as the same value as american then recommend a wack priced gpu
case im using doesnt let it be mounted any other way sadly
Oh ok so that's fine I guess...
literally 0mm clearance
welp I'll come back ltr if it doesnt go as planned
Best way
tks for the help
YW
true i do some weird stuff sometimes 
this channel just temporarily died lmao
if i have a 1070 any way to squeeze out 60 fps in cyberpunk 77 or is the game just unoptimized?
hard to run doesnt mean unoptimized
maybe turn down resolution scaler
but yeah 2077 is a pc melter
i honestly thought it was just unoptimized, but my gpu is a rust, but i love it
CP2077 is the new Crysis
i thought cyberpunk was gonna be like gta or fallout where it's cpu dependant
It hammers my 3700x and RTX2060
shocker of the century
websites/youtubers be like: how to run the game on the lowest settings- my build is a 3080 ryzen 9 5950x 32 gb ram 3600mhz, nothing special
Even WITH DLSS
same i maxed the game out on my 2080 and get like
high forties dipping to the 20s

thats psycho rt tho
the side quests have been keeping me busy, fun game, but anything i do feel like it cracks the game lol
say goodbye to can it run crysis and say hello to can it it even cp77
It all seems to be working. Sure CPU thermals are horrible but again new thermal paste and cleaning should fix that right up.
It's not dangerously high. Running aroud the low 70s -> high 70s
how horrible
That's under load while running Cinebench
Download Prime95, For overclockers, Prime95 has a feature called "Torture Test" that allows maximum stress testing on the CPU and RAM. There are several options allowing the stress test ...
torture test the cpu and see if it turns off
oh god
im not kidding
run gpu load and cpu load at the same time
see if it turns off
oh thought u meant the CPU stress and Cinebench
It's struggling with Cinebench as it is
About 1/2 way through Cinebench R23
Exactly 70s are fine. Not good but fine
which is why it may be an issue with both components being under load 
Time for DDU graphics drivers, then 3DMARK with HWINFO open to GPU temps
and if not then ddu and everything will be nice and cute
most wouldn't call computer stability "cute", but yes lol
what i want to call it gets me warned 
Right everything works. Going to have him game on it for a bit check temps and then run the GPU stress test for around 1-2 hours at night
We ran the test for 10m apready and no issues temps stayed around high 60s and low 70s
Good
Welp thanks again i was trying for 3 days didnt even think about using a DDU or whatever. We uninstalled them ourselves but idk whatever
Yeah, nVidia uninstall doesn't remove everything
Any time you install a new GPU, always use DDU to remove the old drivers
Welp i leanred something as well so good for us both
Hope it's fixed!
learning new things is 90% of the fun
Yea all seems good. Stress test over night and were all good
He just wants to play cause hes had this system for 5 days and couldnt do anything
:p
nice legs
@clear pier dayum where u brought it from ? 👀
I was able to purchase a 3060ti on Monday and it was ready today at bestbuy
Stock stayed for a hole 5 min
Are you part of stock drops
Huh? nope
Do you want me to invite you it is the only way you will get one online
Yes plz
yo I got a uestion
so I've been playing a lot of borderlands 2 and I've been noticing that even though my cap is set to 120 in some places it drops, but the gpu itself isn't going on max load and instead is just sitting in 60-70% load, does this have to do with anything cpu bound?
I can understand it happening on areas with a lot of bodies and stuff but in many cases just staring at some areas my framerate gets dropped to like 80 fps
got a 3080 and a 3090 on order now... end of jan delivery
need to decide which one to cancel
what do you do?
if gaming a 3090 is just overkill but specifically for your wallet
but the vram might come in handy
for other areas
you're most likely never gonna need 24 GB even on 4k
Dose it matter what kind of mother board you will the graphic card still work I’m new at this
it will
depending on it the pcie lane might affect slightly the performance
but it'll work just fine
Okay thanks
the cpu is a bigger concer
n
10850k so I'm doing fine
talking to silent kekw
yeet
but yea those things are said are the only thing really worth spending for the 3090
the performance is negligible mostly
specially with how big the price gap is
my reason for the 10-15% better is mostly that I want to keep it a long while
1.8x price is a concern though yea
yeah if you're gonna skip like 3 gens then sure
uhh I think it went 7xx>9xx>10xx>20xx>30xx
sad thing is I can't tell you to get a 3080ti because getting one is uhh yeah
not possible
ehh supposed to be jan
3080ti is the card that will actually have decent value
compared to 3090 at least
10 gb is too little but 24gb is too much for gaming
yea that's the issue I was thinking abouyt
and I didn't want to wait for the 3080 ti
but neither of my current orders comes until almost feb anyway
new date jan 19
🤔
do I hold out for 3080 ti
probs best thing
and not get it until like...april
it being shipped to you jan probably means they don't really have cards or there's delays because christmas
or bos
both*
either way blt already said they(my 3080) aren't coming in stock until jan 25 and I've heard they are notorious for pushing dates
so worst case I cancel later
yep
and 3090 will be more futureproofed because vram
yea that's why I pretty much am thinking now it's either wait for 3080ti or get 3090 now
can always sli the 3090 later too if I need to overkill things even more in the future
haha
Games don't support SLI anymore TBH
hmmm
With them knowing the absolute demand on these GPUs, I suspect the msrp on the ti series will be at least $150-200 over the non ti models.
yea I'm expecting that
It should be priced between the 3080 and the 3090
was thinking probs $900 for 3080ti
Yeah, that sounds about right
Ye but wait for perf tests before buying
Depending on card partner models, I think a few will hit or tip 1k
probs
anybody wanna help explain to me why I can't run mhw for more than an hour without a crash to desktop
@sturdy oasis what system?
is a 5600x fine with a 3080? Pc will only really be used for gaming
ryzen 5 3600, rtx 2060 super, 32gb 3200mhz ram, 1.5tb m.2 nvme storage, sf600 gold plus corsair powersupply, gigabyte x570 pro wifi mobo
its my on the go system that i built that is itx
@coarse spindle
drivers are up-to-date(used driver easy), max temps with cpu is 62.C, max temp with gpu is 72.C, and PSU?
I have had problems with instability on PSUs before... but other than that IDK
how wold I check the psu @coarse spindle ?
sorry I am not sure....
can't help but think as I do my build ....... Black Flag - Black Coffee!!!!
ok well thanks @coarse spindle , will look into it👍
Looking at a Zotac 1080 mini for $250. Anyone have an opinion on that deal?
Feels kinda dirty buying a 4 year old card for that price
z
tac
I always wondered, can you sli a 1070 3gb and a 6gb? Or does it have to be the same gddr
I've seen others mention Zotac. What's the deal with them and the hate? I've Been out of the gpu game for almost a decade
My last gpu purchase was a msi geforce gtx 660 😆
Unigine Valley Benchmark will just run infinitly correct?
Don't have to change a config file or anything
Question for people who know more about stock than me, i know someone who is selling an evga hybrid cooled 2070 super for $500 should i go with that or wait until stock levels on 30 series, i currently have a msi 1650 super
Those scalpers
Ik
same card iirc
bots are absolutely all over amazon
thoughts on the 3060ti compared to the 3070 and 3080s
they aren't
Carted and checked out first button press..
Is Newegg still empty?
regular 3060 is still rumored for January right?
They need to make more stock then gpu s tbh
Agreed. Although the regular 3060 is more the price point that I'm looking for. However, it won't matter if I can't find it.
I have been summoned
do you bring..cards of graphics?
no my precious stayed with me
🧑💻
when are 3080s back on stock?
No one knows, keep tabs on the stores
do you think it would take up till like april?
When are gtx 1660s cards back in stock
Discontinued

how much will a normal 3060 cost or is that still not out yet?
wait 1660 supers are discontinued?
@warped osprey I don't think official pricing has been released, but estimates I've seen are around $300
Rumor is that there will be 6gb and 12gb models
you know me, cheap raw power, 6gb ftw
i have a question, i’m looking to buy either a 3070 or 3060ti and i only have one 8 pin pcie cable available. if i use an 8 pin to dual 8 pin splitter would i still be able to use the card?
If you get the 3060 ti fe you only need 1 8 pin
Thoughts on the 5500xt
@lone pond oh nice they must have been aggressively banning the used addresses or something
I would surely get a 3070 before ever getting a 3060ti it is only a $50 difference and you get a lot more bang for the dollar
hmm 5500xt only has 128 bit but if you can go a little more of an investment and nab a 5600xt you then jump up to 6 gigs memory with a 192 bit data path
I myself am waiting for the restock on the 3070 and plan on buying one. at $480 it is a decent deal
or perhaps I will stick with ATIs line and get the 6800 instead..my current main cards are 1 5700XT and an Asrock Vega 56 neither of which I have installed yet he he
depends on what u do but generally for anything that isnt gaming amd gets whipped by nvidia
looking into the 6800 and 6900 series ATI has been shown to beat the 3080 and even the 3090 in many aspects and it is much less costly
but I do want , at least, one nvidia card
and thats with no dlss
What do u plan on doing on the card
gaming mostly
If u do anything related to video ignore amd entirely
And if you do anything related to 3d renders
I like to build ,min, 3 new gaming rigs every time some interesting new parts come to bare
i just sure hope ati gets off their asses and will finally make a card that does not require massive tweaking.. hoping the 6800/6900 series is all set
Nah
Still bad for any kind of productivity
It sucks i want out of the nvidia ecosystem
I been using , mainlt ati vid cards ever since the old 8500 series came out, way back when
@rose mortar the 6800/6900 is better for gaming with 0 ray tracing than their Nvidia equivalents. But as soon as you factor in productivity and other features like ray tracing Nvidia offers better options
i bet your right sincw nvidia has had a lot more experience in the ray tracing tech
This is because AMD put a lot of focus on gaming and sort of forgot to improve productivity elements
Yes they are a year ahead
They have proper RT cores
As soon as you factor in rt or prod nvidia kills them
And AMD doesn’t
Yeah
Yeah
what do you all think of the i5 umm 10600k is it? i know it is the 600k but not sure of the 10 part.. anyway that i5 is /was considered the best gaming cpu in the intl lineup
I am very impressed with the 3700X amd cpu it rocks
right
The 10600K is solid
I mainly am gaming in the ARK world and this i5 7th gen laptop i am currently on only has the 1050ti gpu and it plays the game perfectly. i also have an acer aspire 7 with an 8th gen i7 and a 1060 that really looks good. also both laptops play pubG nicely
You can’t compare laptop processors to desktop
Desktop processors pummel laptop processors
This is due to the amount of power they can draw versus the laptop
Also laptop processor cores are fairly simple and weak in power
Desktop processors are more complex and can sustain more instructions per clock
Acer sucks btw
newegg has a great deal on a gaming laptop that has an i7 10th gen cpu and a 1070 for $1199 that i keep almost buying. but once my gameroom is cleared out i will be able to go back to the desktops and once that is done i would have no use for the gaming laptops
Xoticpc
Thank me later
Grab a clevo laptop and ull be s e t
I could honestly make a clevo my only pc and be happy
I have had nothing but great performance from the 2 acer laptops
That’s not a bad deal
But I would wait for a desktop
and i game for as long as 12 hours plus and these 2 laptops keep chugging along
the aspire7 is a hot HOT running laptop . i got lucky with the aspire 7 i ended up with as i have read so many horror stories about the laptop burning up for others
so Phantom what rigs do you have and how do you like them??
the other laptop i mentioned with the 10th gen i7 and the 3070 dedicated vid for $1199 is an asus
sure they do go look em up at newegg
I have a gaming PC with a Ryzen 5 2600 and an RX 590 which I love. Games run smooth at 1080p ultra.
And then I have a Lenovo Yoga C640 laptop with an i5-10210U which is also a great little laptop
No they dont, double check yourself
sounds good PhantomCat
my ols 8350 8 core rig has a 580 in it and i only planned on using it for my twitch broadcast
Ah nice
but i figured i would use my 1700 1st gen 8 core 16 thread amd rig with the vega 56 instead
sleeper card the vega 56 you just must know how to tweak for a week to get the cookie out of it
Dam
1050ti ended up slapping it across the room
plus i nabbed it for $250 last year
So i sold 
Nice
see right now i am stuck gaming in bed hence the laptops but this nitro 5 acer with its 1050ti 4 gig ram has played all the games i play atm quite well
something happened to steam program on my aspire 7 with the i7 and the 1060 6 gig mem so i been using this old nitro 5 until i have the patience to reinstall steam etc
the 1050 series only offers 2 or 4 on the memory
much prefer 8
all my rigs have min 16 but the aspire has 32gigs and the new desktop has 4xs 16 gig sticks in it . so 64 gigs in that new one i am still building
Noice
Yea going into 2021 anything below 8gb of vram will begin to feel slow as newer games that will "require" more vram come out.
nice if i can actually finish building it lol..bought all the parts in 2019 november - december
see i sold my business which was a pawn/computer shop and a lot of the inventory ended up in my game room . i planned on ebaying most of it but that did not work out so i have zero space at the desks to set up the new rigs and use em
for sure WildGust
figure on getting either the 16 gig ati 6800 or the nvidia 3070 asap
Yea I'm chilling with a R5 2600x and RX 580 8gb for the time being. Next summer hopefully when the market is decently priced I'll begin to flip PCs again to get money for a new rig
i am hoping the 675 watt gold rated power supply will handle the vega 56 but am not sure..anyone have input on whether or not it will handle it? i believe it is a thermaltake power supply
Ew tt
lol again i have had huge success with TT
it is the rosewills that have been a nightmare..every customer that had a sytem failure and a rosewill power supply usually needed a new power supply
Yes neither are good
Acer was a brand i would never touch a good few years ago but they have come a long way since they sucked
i have always been partial to viewsonic myself as they make some kick azz monitors
yeah
good to see another VS fan
Dell exists and so does clevo and so does lenovo
dude I just bought an acer
No reason to get trashtops 
i will never buy any samsung screens since they screwed me on one that had a 3 year warranty and they made it impossible to get it replaced
That is very unfortunate for you
wah
How much
it is a 4k 144hz 27" predator
Oh im talking laptops
Idc abt their displays cause they dont actually make the panels
So theyre allowed to be good 
Ill be honest
i would never buy an acer desktop as i have worked on every brand in my old shop but the laptops seem fine.. this nitro 5 i5 1050ti has endured thousands of hours in gaming for more than 2-3 years
have worked on them a lot
If someone says they know abt computers and then dailies an acer laptop
My opinion of them nosedives

Trash brand
lol
Would rather HP
and this nitro 5 was even a refurb when i bought it!
Id rather use a pavilion 
yeah
what do you all think about the MSI lineup of gaming laptops?
I had to threaten to cancel an enterprise contract to get one repaired
was a really good deal but it died
i also have a 17" pavillion and it has amd tech and it has been great also
i like to watch dvds when waiting in a vehicle
Are u just trying to get all the worst brands honor bound
Lol
Look go to xoticpc
Look at the clevo laptops they have there
Fall in love
Never go back
what about asus?
Theyre ok
i will thank you for the suggestion...btw does newegg offer the clevo lineup?
had a asus netbook a long time ago
Ppl rebrand them
i suppose you hate my Asus motherboards too
I like asus boards
yeah, they good
all new rigs are asus except for one that is asrock
it is an X370 Killer SLI/ac board
Lol
and a postcard
i have the 1700 amd 8 core cpu in it
ryzens and more ryzens
is not the x399 a threadripper cpu mobo?
Yep don and i are cpu twins 
One of my hosts is a 2950x
Reason: Bad word usage
poop then
i was saying i been contemplating building a threadripper rig for poops and giggles
not sure of the gains are worth the large price tag when the newest ryzen cpus are coming so close to the same performance as the threadripper in the price range i could afford
Threads
i just bought sooo many components recently
i placed 4 darkflash rgb fans the realized they only had 11 cfm power so i bought new ones frrom apevia that offer 57 cfm so its back to re replacing these 4 fans
i sure wish NewEgg would restock on gpus ..these scalper prices are insane
i been buying from NewEgg since 2001 and i love them
newegg used to have such great open box deals . they have since changed the price structure and it is surely not worth the meager savings
Newegg got bought out and quality suffered tbh
yes that was a sad day for me
then adding the collection of sales tax also put a hurting on me
i plugged in a HDD into a 500 watt seasonic gold PSU that is more than enough for the system, and there was a big bang and the PC woulnt start up until I turned on and off the PSU switch
happened to all the HDDs I have tried
I think the PSU might be wonky
whoever said that they do not offer gaming laptops with the 3070 was right.. i was wrong they are 2070s oops
Have had nothing but bad experiences with them
It was me hehe
You looked at xotic yet?
that day i was looking at both gaming laptops and gaming desktops
corsair and evga seem to be the best power supplies though i have had great success with thermaltake
Thermaltake sucks
lol
It goes superflower, some evga, some corsair, most be quiet
10 year warranty they can not be that bad.. i have old gaming rigs that still power up perfectly with their old thermaltakes
yes superflower seems to have shown up as a great PS they say they were the ones that made many of the evga brand power supplies
Yep
and they have a great deal on a superflower 850 watt gold rated PS for less than $130 atm'
i think i will go order that one now. that way i will be sure that it will power the vega 56 i have.. not sure the 675 watt one i currently have will do it since they say 750watt is best for the vega 56
so suggestions should i buy this $1200 MSI GL75 Leopard 10SFK-029 - 17.3" 144 Hz - Intel Core i7-10750H - GeForce RTX 2070 - 16 GB DDR4 - 1 TB HDD + 512 GB SSD - Windows 10 or should i wait to get the $490 rx 3070 vid card hmm?
i mean $700 more i can get a complete laptop with good stats or a very nice vid card
well off i go I hope you all had a nice Christmas and that 2021 changes our dire situation in all our lives...peace
No
no on MSI laptop?
Clevo or bust
ok i am going to look up the Cleevo brand right now
Hello, I’m completing my build and just about to install my graphics card. I have a gt 710, I have to install it here right ?
Xoticpc is the best clevo reseller
ty again for the heads up on that brand
🙂
You can get some crazy stuff lol
anyone has any idea when are GPUs getting restocked
@brave lava just search up how to install a gpu on YouTube
Yea I’m pretty sure that’s not where it goes
https://www.newegg.com/msi-radeon-rx-5600-xt-rx-5600-xt-gaming-mx/p/N82E16814137571 i was looking at this graphics card for my pc until the price tripled and everyone is out of stock. What is a comparable card to this
it should technically work in any of the slots

the card i was gonna get went from 450 to 699
complete crap
