Are you part of the stockdroups discord
#graphics-cards
spark pebble
nah lol can you dm me an invite?
clear pier
Yep
spark pebble
appreciate it
clear pier
Set it up so you get pinged for the cards of your choice
zealous mist
Could you also send that to me please?:)
uncut cipher
same please
patent cradle
wooden eagle
wait
@tender mulch do i need 2 8pin connectors connected to psu?
cause i got 2 cables plugged in the 3070 running to my psu
night abyss
two 8-pin connectors running to a single 8-pin connected to your PSU?
distant verge
TONIGHT, I HAVE WON
sullen nest
Wow. Congratulations 🍾🎉
I’m thinking I’m going to have to wait a few months for demand to go down
atomic tangle
distant verge
Listen y'all, I lost like 99% of my hope because I had gotten to like 3 other add to cart pages tn
But like I still went on Zotac at the right moment IG
Basically it's only worth it if you think you're not gonna break down if you fail, otherwise yeah just wait
distant verge
hey all I needed to see was that 1695 MHz boost clock to decide it was decent enough for insta buy 🤷♂️
wooden eagle
is it normal to not have gpu in task manager
distant verge
Hmmm should be under performance tab when you scroll down
dreamy dragonBOT
Z-A-C#4243 has been warned
wooden eagle
any idea how to control the rgb on a 3070 ftw
tender mulch
Probably evga precision x1 software
neat sorrel
any idea how to get maximum performance out of a NVIDIA G103M?
blissful roost
What's a reasonable price to sell a Evga Gtx 1660 that's only been used for 8 months ?
craggy compass
What was its actual price?
rapid moon
What's a reasonable price to sell a Evga Gtx 1660 that's only been used for 8 mo...
200 or 210 if it was a super or ti and if it’s a regular one I’d think 180 or 190
blissful roost
What was its actual price?
Bought it for $224
blissful roost
200 or 210 if it was a super or ti and if it’s a regular one I’d think 180 or 19...
Thanks, appreciate it! : D
rocky cobalt
should i buy 3060ti
vale cedar
one that is available
I have a 1650 super from EVGA. Its good but isn't the best on the market. It's a good starter card because it's available, decent price and warranty is good.
or just full send and get a 3090
zealous kernel
Which type of extension cable do I need to mount my GPU vertically?
plain harness
depends what gou
gpu*
idk if they do 4.0 gen extensions even though you probs wont need it
but any type of pcie gen 3/4 extension cable should be fine
upper mural
You will likely need to change the x16 slot to gen 3 in bios if you have something thats not gen 4
fluid star
any news abouth 3080ti ?
tropic swift
It’s coming.......
Only the chosen ones will be able to buy them......
Oh actual news? no clue bro.
lone pond
I was looking for a water block for a dual fan XFX vega 56
lone pond
any news abouth 3080ti ?
no, just rumors and few leaks
whole solstice
is there a graphics card that anyone recommends?
gtx 1650 or 1660/ti
great starter cards, and i currently have one of my own on my pc
gritty notch
TONIGHT, I HAVE WON
u have lost by getting zotac
lone pond
gtx 1650 or 1660/ti
great starter cards, and i currently have one of my own on ...
1650 is a bad card though
for a non-sff desktop
gritty notch
1650 cute
gritty notch
yea
lone pond
570 doggo card is better
fiery hound
my new build going to be stuck using my ancient GTX 660 until supply improves
distant verge
u have lost by getting zotac
why every1 hate on Zotac 😔😔
gritty notch
because they actually suck ass
distant verge
howww they're just graphics cards like any1 else, all that matters is clock speeds and if it runs or not 😣
distant verge
Yupp and they got a 3+ year warranty on 30 series cards 🙂
I think y'all underestimating Zotac this year...it's possible they stepped it up considering they are usually cheaper than competition, and I paid $100 over MSRP this time around 🥲
waxen iron
Lmao
Their support sucks
Plus the coolers on their cards are subpar
And they’re known to get QA failure chips onto their cards
distant verge
That I have heard
waxen iron
Come back to me when your card dies and you’re crying
distant verge
Will do if it does, I think it's up to luck. I think as more and more people trust in Zotac, the more money will go to them to improve their facilities.
lone pond
howww they're just graphics cards like any1 else, all that matters is clock spee...
not really
what matters is vrm cooling/general cooling
PCB
and other things
gritty notch
Will do if it does, I think it's up to luck. I think as more and more people tru...
someone has to be the worst brand
and the awful dies have to go somewhere
tender mulch
MMMM
gritty notch
zotac is that place
tender mulch
Zotac or PNY I can't decided
gray osprey
Does anyone know how much a gtx 980 goes for ???
gritty notch
so no one considers them
tender mulch
I like some of their products but not their GPU's
gray osprey
Thank you @gritty notch
gritty notch
nice what team u on?
gritty notch
oh gronse lul
i used to fold back when i cared
4x 1080
for a little bit i did 12 470s
when i had 30 of them
strange crescent
wow 4x1080 thats like space heater
round crown
30?!
round crown
Oh lol
gritty notch
got a bunch of 470s for like sub $30 each
round crown
Hm not bad
gritty notch
and other sysadmin friend upgraded their whole work's desktops
strange crescent
was it worth it though
gritty notch
and lets say the uh
plush mauve
gtx 1650 or 1660/ti
great starter cards, and i currently have one of my own on ...
thank you!
strange crescent
i thought those consume a lot of power
gritty notch
@strange crescent idgaf abt power cause i made like 29 optiplex gaming rigs
and sold each for 400
strange crescent
🙂
rustic pulsar
is 2060 good?
gritty notch
the rest of them were like
gritty notch
is 2060 good?
for?
round crown
2060 is meh at best
gritty notch
i just kinda gave some away
rustic pulsar
gaming 1080 p and vr
round crown
Get a 5600xt
round crown
i just kinda gave some away
Gave away 2060’s?
gritty notch
Gave away 2060’s?
470s
round crown
Oh can i have one lol
gritty notch
sorry im on my last one
rustic pulsar
i have a 1060 now so its a big upgrade right?
round crown
Ah lol
gritty notch
its alright
round crown
Oh well
gritty notch
how much is the 2060 tho
if someone really needs smth i just cut them a good deal nowadays
and all my deals are already s tier
round crown
Sell me a 1080
tender mulch
mmmm
round crown
$150 1080?
tender mulch
RTX 2060 is fine for 1080p with no Ray Tracing
round crown
Maybe?
round crown
Scam
round crown
Lol
gritty notch
but i sell laptops and server stuff
static rock
cheapest 2060 is like $400 on newegg iirc
plush mauve
damn cards be expensive af rn
tender mulch
Yup
astral bay
bro so i have a msi 1650 super, bought it msrp for about $180 ITS $500 ON NEW EGG RN
lone pond
lol actually its couse its out of stock at newegg and its 3th part seller prices
astral bay
ahhhhh, bro just checked evga b stock and its still at a solid !60-180 price point
i was gonna say if that was the actual price rn, anybody tryin to buy a 1650 super lol
weak belfry
Never thought I'd see the day a 2060 would reach above 500 bucks again hehe
jaunty nimbus
Ii was going to buy an evga 2080 ti ftw3 used on craigslist for 700. But I think i'll be waiting until stock levels out. I'll be either getting a 3070 or 3080.
Right now I've got an evga gtx 1070 ti
quasi moss
I have a 1070 non ti and upgraded my monitor and its struggle bus!!! Lol I bought the monitor knowing I would be building a new rig though. I have my 6900xt and can't wait to get everything I need to build
warped osprey
is a 3090 worth it or should i get a 6900xt or 6800xt (making an overkill pc for a friend as a christmas gift so i wanna surprise them with the best performing pc)
zealous mist
3090 is proven better than anything amd right now
gritty notch
is a 3090 worth it or should i get a 6900xt or 6800xt (making an overkill pc for...
amd cards suck ass
also can i be ur friend 
wooden eagle
did everything i possibly could and my 3070 can only run 40fps 🙂
tender mulch
EHm, that's interesting
Have you checked CPU load vs GPU load?
If CPU is high, and GPU is low, that means you need to upgrade your CPU
Can you have Task Manager open in one window and game in another?
sullen panther
@gritty notch do you sale server psus? I'm not gonna buy any but just curious xD
tender mulch
No buying or selling here. 😉
zealous mist
Hmmmm is 1k #closeenough for a 3080...
gritty notch
<@730975292755279933> do you sale server psus? I'm not gonna buy any but just cu...
no
sullen panther
Oh alright
zealous mist
$250 because it’s a gigabyte one
gritty notch
cpus onlu
lone pond
@wooden eagle which gpu and cpu
wooden eagle
zen7 3600 , 3070
tender mulch
Ye, that CPU needs a boost
lone pond
Thats should be a fair pairing
gritty notch
cp hits the cpu hard
lone pond
Playing 1080p?
gritty notch
even then yeah
wooden eagle
1080p
lone pond
Well yeah more cpu intensive at 1080
wooden eagle
max 40fps
gritty notch
iirc it hates ryzen
lone pond
There have been a few things put out to assist ryzen cpus on cp77
What bike you ride @tender mulch
gritty notch
There have been a few things put out to assist ryzen cpus on cp77
mostly for the bad ones if i recall
tender mulch
Which have all been hogwash, for the most part
in the pic? Ninja 250 Race bike
Daily ride, KTM 1290 SDR
lone pond
Oh fun my buddy has the superduke
gritty notch
oh nice!
tender mulch
So does my wife
gritty notch
i uh
lone pond
I had the 1100cc hypermotard was a blast
gritty notch
i got out of bed this morning
tender mulch
She's just as fast as I am TBH
I taught her some things and she really caught on fast
Ducati
The Italian Mistress
tender mulch
Husky supermoto? 701? 401?
coarse spindle
i have an actual husky lol
lone pond
FC450
tender mulch
Ye, dirtbike.
lone pond
Building a sumo out of it
tender mulch
Tracks, Western Washington
lone pond
I did the ridge in like 2014?
tender mulch
Should probably take this to DM's or general lol
lone pond
General then lol
jaunty nimbus
huh, now I wonder if my i7 8700k will hold back a 3080 on an extreme level
ripe ivy
The only extreme would be 1080p Medium or Low, actually 1080p in general
jaunty nimbus
Well then maybe consider upgrading to 1440p with my gpu upgrade. I know 8700k clock speeds are relatively high
4.7 ghz single core.
the gpu upgrade won't happen until mid next year or something. Whenever stock levels out
hybrid portal
tender mulch
Yes
gritty notch
u can talk abt amazon all u want here lol
to the person who just deleted their stuff
warm meteor
Lol that was me! It wasn't being sold by Amazon so technically not what I'd deem a restock since the price was inflated.
gritty notch
yep just scalpers being scalpers
warm meteor
Unfortunately, at least till supply can sustain the demand.
spark pebble
tbh when do you guys think that will even be lol
jade ferry
Im praying the 3060 comes back in stock soon
tender mulch
Bets on Saturday restock, day after Christmas?
dense panther
they restock like every 3 day
jade ferry
I have my eye on the website 24/7 starting from today 😤😤
ashen leaf
Sexy
warm meteor
Serious question, is it really worth the bigger spend to grab a 3090 over a 3080 when restocks drop?
tender mulch
No
gritty notch
for gaming hell no
for workstation hell yes
3090 is a killer workstation gpu
best value ever
shy forge
any ideas as to when the 3080s might hit a good stock
tender mulch
February
warm meteor
I do a fair amount of video editing so I'm debating it. But I'm sure the 3080 is plenty.
clear frigate
February would be god tier
gritty notch
I do a fair amount of video editing so I'm debating it. But I'm sure the 3080 is...
more like ai work
this is where the 3090 becomes a fantastic value mid-high end gpu
tranquil belfry
Dual 3080s > 3090 aight, imma head out
gritty notch
nah
gray narwhal
Hey so if I can’t manage to get a 3070 I’m thinking about a 2080, anyone know a fair price for one?
tender mulch
About half of what they're listed for right now
gray narwhal
Lol yea that sounds right like 400 bucks
Don’t pay scalper prices 😂
Gotcha
Yea feel ya
tender mulch
Get a CC from a Credit Union rather than a bank. Way better interest rates. Some are fixed instead of 22% variable
Right now ours is offering 7.74%. 🙂
For a CC?
I get offers in the mail all the time from Chase, etc, offering like, 20+% variable APR. I laugh and burn them.
Ye
NEVER a bank for CC, always a CU
We use ours and pay it off every month. keeps the score up and no interest
We use that instead of a Debit Card so there's no direct access to our bank account
That way they can charge all they want on the card but our bank account is fine. Steal the card, see if I care. I'll shut if off and back charge everything
tender mulch
Where did you see that?
lone pond
what 3090 should i get i was thinking about evga cause the price
torn yarrow
like since i was looking for a 1080-1080ti and they are way out of my price so i decided to look at for parts and to see if i could possible fix it?
tender mulch
OH
You're not replacing a GPU die
nor the VRAM
It's hard soldered on like a laptop
tender mulch
Can't be fixed. not coming off
torn yarrow
lol
tender mulch
I mean, maybe if you're a high end computer repair shop that had the tools to reball the chips and the oven to solder them back on, MAYBE
tender mulch
Even if you HAD the tools, you'd need two cards. One donor for the GPU, and the dead one to put the GPU die on
tender mulch
Probs not
torn yarrow
oof i got my hopes up
tender mulch
Yeah, you aren't fixing a GPU without specialized tooling and donor cards
Unless it's just a bad fan
torn yarrow
it doesent display thats all
gritty notch
I mean, maybe if you're a high end computer repair shop that had the tools to re...
not even then
tender mulch
I've seen it done lol
gritty notch
not for less than a new card
gritty notch
at least
tender mulch
Louis ROssman does it all the time with dead Macbooks and donor boards
He ain't the best but he gets the job done
gritty notch
at least 350 labor
yea hes alr
but unless u know what ur doing
not worth to try
torn yarrow
but i also found one that powers on fans spin but no display
torn yarrow
oof
tender mulch
maybe some bad VRM's but if those are bad, GPU die bad too
torn yarrow
yeah
tender mulch
Fan spin does NOT equal GPU die power up
torn yarrow
ok
tender mulch
Only means the onboard controller received a power on signal and the fan spun up
gritty notch
u get a good deal on waterblocked 1080ti, but dont want custom loop
gritty notch
114 for the cooler sounds like an alr deal if u dont want aftermarket
tender mulch
I mean, I know waiting for a GPU sucks but don't spend your hard earned dollars on either scalpers or garbge
Your time is 100% worth getting what you want
gritty notch
ignoring $65 accelero
tender mulch
Exactly
gritty notch
didnt know they were so cheap actually
torn yarrow
dang
naive sky
Hey is there an ideal price range you guys found in shopping for the 3070-3090? And any major differences compared to each one?
tender mulch
Yes, MSRP
naive sky
:/
tender mulch
That's the only price range
If you pay scalpers, they'll keep doing what they're doing
If you don't pay them, they'll stop
tender mulch
Lemme ask you something, are you using YOUR money to buy this GPU?
naive sky
yeah
tender mulch
K
Hypothetical here
bear with me
3080
Costs 700
At $15 an hour, that's 46 HOURS OF YOUR LIFE for a card
At scalper prices, say, $1000
That's 66 hours
Is it really worth an extra 20 hours of your life to pay for it?
Just asking
😉
LMAO
I think of things in terms of my time, not my $
It helps
But to answer your other question, EVGA is good, FE is good, Gigabyte is good
I'd stay away from Zotac and PNY
Else get what you can
I don't think the extra 100-200 mhz core clock is worth the premium the board partners charge but that's me
naive sky
Well, like honestly I feel bad. I have a background in nursing here so know nothing about computers. I got the G7 monitor and my recently custom built computer from microcenter for 2g and I feel like adding liquid cooling to it but I put a gigabyte graphics card and I am thinking of swapping it for a 3070 or 3090. Looking to get into programming and software development at a community college, obv graphics cards have nothing to do with that but coming from a imac haha....
high moat
My pc is a very crappy 1660
tender mulch
What card you have right now?
naive sky
I'll take pics, let me look at the shiny box
high moat
My pc is so bad doesn’t even have a ssd
tender mulch
Just because you can't run Cyberpunk at a million FPS doesn't mean it's bad
So? Does it do what you want? It's fine
naive sky
derp its on newegg
torn yarrow
@high moat my boy i have a rx 570
torn yarrow
ik
high moat
I really would like a great pc tho
naive sky
Well the problem I thought of was that the nvdia g sync isn't compatible with my g7 no?
torn yarrow
@high moat dont we all
tender mulch
GSync is only useful below 60 hz anyway
naive sky
GIGABYTE Radeon RX 5700 XT DirectX 12 GV-R57XTGAMING OC-8GD (rev. 2.0) 8GB 256-Bit GDDR6 PCI Express 4.0 x16 ATX Video ...
tender mulch
G7 is 240hz 1440p
And has Freesync
Your AMD has Freesync
I mean
Sounds to me like you have a nice setup there
naive sky
hmm... is high cpu use bad?
torn yarrow
honestly ima get a 144hz mobitor and call it a day
naive sky
I'm not sure if maybe I haven't calibrated it, messed with the wiring...
tender mulch
What CPU is it though?
naive sky
can i post pics here?
tender mulch
yes
naive sky
I can send you guys the recepit too
torn yarrow
since i cant get any gpus ima just get a 144hz monitor
tender mulch
If I were you, I'd look at how to turn on Freesync for your 5700XT and Monitor
and CPU
torn yarrow
whats free-sync
torn yarrow
like what does it do
naive sky
thanks
tender mulch
performance tab
lists CPU
Freesync is GSync for AMD
It's basically Open Source Gsync
Syncs FPS with monitor refresh rate
torn yarrow
does it lock at 60fps?
tender mulch
But if your monitors refresh rate is 240hz, you don't need it
naive sky
intel i9 10850k cpu @ 3.60 GHz, AMD Radeon RX 5700 XT
torn yarrow
dang
naive sky
fr?
torn yarrow
no upgrades
tender mulch
10850 with a 5700XT?
naive sky
Dude my friend literally told me to fix my computer and I was like fck
tender mulch
Sure, it's not gonna get a million FPS at 1440p but
Literally nothing wrong with it lol
torn yarrow
nope
tender mulch
Srsly, that's a nice machine
naive sky
I tried buying everything on black friday, and like everyone kept telling me to return the gigabyte during neweggs black friday sale and they have a 2 month return window. So I was thinking of swapping out the graphics card
tender mulch
and a REALLY NICE monitor
torn yarrow
yeah
tender mulch
No
naive sky
hmmm Imma send the wiring
torn yarrow
yeah
naive sky
Ill grab the recepit and show it
tender mulch
Only thing I can recommend is to use Displayport instead of HDMI
high moat
My specs are nvidia gtx 1660, Ryzen 5 and I don’t remember what the motherboard is I think it’s a repub of gamers or something 🤷♂️
Don’t even have a ssd
torn yarrow
you really dont need a ssd
high moat
Yeah you kinda do
tender mulch
SSD's are nice but not a must have
high moat
My computer is so slow
torn yarrow
2100 dollars wow thats like 2 1/2 times my whole setup
naive sky
:l
tender mulch
Ye
naive sky
k
tender mulch
In all seriousness, there is nothing wrong with that build at all
torn yarrow
nope lol
tender mulch
no reason it shouldn't do good FPS in anything modern
And no reason you can't wait until the GPU prices normalize
torn yarrow
tender mulch
That really is a nice machine, don't listen to your "friend"
naive sky
yeah, just just keep it dust free for three years? Gigabyte 3 year warranty for drive
tender mulch
Only advice I can give is to use Displayport instead of HDMI cables, that might be limiting your performance
torn yarrow
wow!!!!!!!!!!!!!
tender mulch
WAIT WAIT WAIT
torn yarrow
thats clean
naive sky
what
tender mulch
Lots of pins?
torn yarrow
i use dvi 😦
naive sky
what what
torn yarrow
no i dont think so
tender mulch
big old chonker?
Oh yeah, there's one there
I see it
might not be DVI but it sure looks like it, that's a chonky cable
torn yarrow
big chonk
tender mulch
Anyway, make sure the cable going from your Monitor to the Computer is DVI
torn yarrow
i use a 1650x1050 monitor 😦
naive sky
tender mulch
USB and HDMI?
naive sky
Well heres the thing they provide this one cable
from the samsung monitor that I cant figure why they provided it
tender mulch
Wait, do you have 2 cables going from your GPU to your monitor? Or two monitors?
tender mulch
Ye
tender mulch
Are you running two monitors or one?
It looks like they have an HDMI and DP cable going from the GPU to the monitor
Should only have one
tender mulch
Ok, back up
naive sky
O>O
tender mulch
From the video card to the monitor
naive sky
yeah
tender mulch
2 cables, 1 monitor?
naive sky
yes sir
naive sky
ones hdmi and other display
tender mulch
Do you have one of those?
tender mulch
Remove the HDMI LOL
Only need the Display cable
I'm sure that's affecting performance
tender mulch
having two cables?
tender mulch
Confusing GPU as to what settings to use
naive sky
ahh
tender mulch
Also, with Displayport
You can use Freesync
and the 240hz protion of that fancy monitor you have
So turn that on in the GPU software and monitor
And probably watch your FPS increase
XD
naive sky
why did they provide the hdmi cable to the monitor?
naive sky
torn yarrow
dang
naive sky
I read on reviews gsync sometimes is turned off because of flickering
torn yarrow
so its free smoothness
tender mulch
Smoothness, yes
torn yarrow
yes
tender mulch
Anyway, that PC is pretty good
torn yarrow
well feature
tender mulch
Should be fine now?
naive sky
rommy thats an additional usb. unless the usb goes in the montior but that other end, like I have to show you guys something..
tender mulch
They already have USB from PC to monitor though
tender mulch
No
naive sky
lol
tender mulch
Red spot is Audio Optical cable lol
naive sky
right
tender mulch
Rommy
Right below that
Is the USB connection from PC
it's the printer style connector
USB-A
Sorry, Type B
naive sky
oh yeah sorry i had gotten a fujitsu for scanning recepits
tender mulch
S'all good, we all here to learn
naive sky
that white cable
naive sky
dont yell at me 😦
naive sky
lol
tender mulch
It's a standard abbreviation
naive sky
oh yeah
tender mulch
Universal Serial Bus
naive sky
XD
tender mulch
I'm one of the few people that uses proper punctuation and capitalization on the internet.
XD
Anyway, the white cable, yes?
What's the question?
naive sky
sorry so with that black cable, forget the white cable
naive sky
so usb into montor?
naive sky
hmm
naive sky
:l
tender mulch
You said "liquid cooling"
You already have that for your CPU
Were you talking GPU also?
naive sky
Difference between gpu and cpu
tender mulch
CPU = the intel part, on the motherboard
GPU = where you plug your monitor in
CPU = Central Processing Unit
GPU = Graphics Processing Unit
naive sky
yeah that makes sense
tender mulch
CPU is the thing under the hoses that go to the top of your computer case
naive sky
no its the fujitisu 1500
dreamy dragonBOT
Rommy#7202 has been warned
tender mulch
XD
Anwyay, is there anything else you need help with?
I mean, you could
It has USB pass through
naive sky
should i?
tender mulch
You can
naive sky
good to know
tender mulch
if it's convenient to your work area
naive sky
I can't find the locations where the b end goes with the black wire
like the black wire thats already connected is a SS and it's in the SS10?
ill take pics
i was also wondering what that silver slot is for
and that black cable plugs into the monitor
for office devices?
tender mulch
Phones mostly
naive sky
so do i need this?
cause it came with the g7 but i cant seem to find any slot for it
yeah so the usb end but then that other end
ok
I noticed that but like I literally had the assumption that all the cables need to go into this monitor
tender mulch
YW
naive sky
Well back to Cyberpunk I go.
lol
No fr, thank you guys againb
corp
Yeah I almost picked nomad aswell
I felt that the corp connections is what was best
Regardless, the game is sadly buggy
I felt that they should of just waited before releasing it but yeah ur right
Do you know how to use the console command in the game?
naive sky
apparently two of my missions of glitched as I found on reddit and like they said you need to input a command code to have the remaining enemies show up
tender mulch
Ye, they took it out
"Removed debug console to prevent functions that could lead to crashes or blocked quests. This doesn't mean we don't want to support the modding community. Stay tuned for more info on that."
naive sky
yeah :/ like idk, Im playing on hard difficulty and at the part of the game where Tak kills the snipers and meets the Asaka
naive sky
but like honestly I'm not catching the vibe of the game, I feel like its borderland style
naive sky
not thats it bad, just like enemies are extremely difficult with the damage they do. Like if I encounter a high level enemy like its I get one shotted, then the enemies I can and usually kill, even the mini boss drones and stuff, lug gernades at them and use the copper 5 assault rifle
idk, i played red dead 2 before cyberpunk, so thats prob a huge comparison, red dead 2 was really good
I stopped playing when arthur dies tho and havent continued it lol
I was so pissed
cause like literally nothing killed me in the game but tb
I would kill everything. Like I saw chapt 4 and he starts coughing and like im thinking, no point in being good anymore :l
omfg ill get it right now
see heres the thing, when you get on the iphone, then get the macbook pro, then the imac
its like a cancer to the mind, ur limited in what you can do or what you thought you can do
idk, I know apple is gonna make its own chips and cars, but like fck them
yeah
hows it good for programming and what did you study?
Dope, trying to switch to that major now
I heard being a network manager is a good living?
If that's something you maybe thought about
Yeah, honestly the major thing I liked about cyberpunk was the introduction of bio implants
btw is cyberpunk ever going multiplayer or?
What kind of apple products do you use? Do you swap them for newer models?
I had noticed that on youtube
clear frigate
Wait I'm curious how apple is good fro programming?
naive sky
unix
clear frigate
Also just saying windows has a linux subsystem you can install
naive sky
good point
clear frigate
Yeah but at that point I'd argue just go with a dual boot over apple personally
naive sky
Random question but any opinion on coding bootcamps?
like flatiron
well some have income sharing agreements
finds link
for sure but keeping that kind of job
getting
clear frigate
I just graduated and I'll say software engineers are pretty in demand
clear frigate
Yeah I'm and ift major currently trying to get into networking but have had more luck getting offers in software engineering
^^^
Facts
naive sky
I know but I feel like I always need the right teacher
I did try udemy
yeah i hear that and im like where do i begin
javascript, C++..
Well, as long as you keep trying at it I think it's defintely doable. I really think coding is just going to be common in the future(Play Cyberpunk Music).
Ever try or consider Cyber security or hacking?
white, grey hat hacking
clear frigate
Yo cyber security is where I was taught about the cia triad
torn yarrow
well gn merry Christmas hope you get what you asked for 🙂
wooden eagle
does vertical mounting by pcie cable affect gpu performance?
wraith pasture
does vertical mounting by pcie cable affect gpu performance?
no as long as the riser is shielded
fluid star
lone pond
hello
plain sage
Hi
The easiest thing you can do is set a custom fan curve in msi afterburner
You can make it so when temps go above 60 the fans rev up
plain sage
Or if you have some spare thermal paste and a few minutes you could try repasting your card
plain sage
Rx 570 isnt old
plain sage
It is pretty toasty though
lone pond
it would probably cool better right
plain sage
Depends on the model
lone pond
i have 2 front fans and 1 back fan
hoary hill
Rx 570 isn't a bad card from what I hear
plain sage
I personally prefer the 1650 or 1650 super at that price
If you plan on upgrading maybe wait for ampere and big navi cards to come back in stock
plain sage
Yeah
lone pond
you think 2 front fans 1 back fan is good ? @hoary hill
plain sage
Or maybe even a 3050
plain sage
you think 2 front fans 1 back fan is good ? <@!440613367959388161>
I have no case fans and get good temps
hoary hill
I had that in mine for quite awhile and didn't have any problems
That is with a 2700x and 2080 s
gritty notch
best fan curve is 100% all the time
lone pond
i tested it
i cracked up laughing
it sounded like an airplane
abouta take off
@gritty notch is that good though?
gritty notch
i tested it
its what a lot of my cards used to run at
spice prawn
yes, but you are also deaf
OR
you have your machines placed where you cannot hear the hellish racket they make
hoary pine
got a i9 9900K and 3060 ti for christmas. I dont know if there will be any bottlenecking or not. if someone could tell me that would be great. thanks
tender mulch
it's fine
spice prawn
nothing to worry about @hoary pine, go and enjoy some games :)
hoary pine
thanks @tender mulch @spice prawn : ) merry christmas
spice prawn
likewise :)
tender mulch
You too!
jade ferry
Is there gonna be restock soon ?
jade ferry
Ah alright
vital urchin
when does bestbuy restock their graphics cards?
echo linden
rx 580 vs 1650 super ?
torn yarrow
they are very similar in performance
echo linden
oh ok
torn yarrow
lone pond
1650 pulls ahead in a couple games
580 is cheaper tho
Personal preference really
They both will run any current games at 1080p max or near max
torn yarrow
true
cobalt walrus
20 MSI 3090 and 4 Strix 3090 in stock at Columbus Microcenter
torn yarrow
cool
gritty notch
you have your machines placed where you cannot hear the hellish racket they make
colocation is nice
spice prawn
only because you are deaf :P
gritty notch
lmao
naed do u have crazy ears or smth
i cant hear servers in an LA daracenter from my house in SF
hollow zephyr
gritty notch
or a card for a ~800 dollar build
$600 gpu and a pentium 4
round crown
$600 gpu and a pentium 4 <:keeeek:591379457017774090>
...
gritty notch
fr now is the worst time to get a gpu in recent memory
round crown
Yep
distant verge
AMD GPUs not a bad idea
copper mason
Can't go wrong with either brand. Keep in mind that some games are starting to want over 8gb of VRAM when purchasing. So don't overpay if you can help it for 8gb and smaller VRAM cards. @distant verge
AMD has good rasterization performance, Nvidia has better Ray Tracing and dynamic resolution scaling. AMD dynamic resolution scaling isn't ready for mass market yet on the software side, updates will come later. So unless you must have ray tracing right now, either brand is fine, get what you can afford / is available
distant verge
guys whats a good 300 dollar graphics card
https://www.newegg.com/asus-radeon-rx-580-dual-rx580-o8g/p/N82E16814126199?Item=N82E16814126199 @sacred radish best bang for your buck IG, newegg doesn't have anything faster for less than $300
copper mason
Speaking of cards: Safe for work link follows, though comments can get a bit spicy at the bottom of the page and aren't always timely moderated https://wccftech.com/asus-geforce-rtx-3080-ti-20-gb-geforce-rtx-3060-12-gb-rog-strix-custom-graphics-cards-leak/
distant verge
Why do we go backwards for needing MORE VRAM 😔
copper mason
RX580/590 series has 8gb of VRAM, which is important if you want those texture details, though if you can only afford a 4gb or 6gb graphics card of similar performance for 1080p, then that is always just dandy yet and will still provide modest details at playable frame rates. I had an rx 480 8gb card up to about a year ago, it was still fast enough but it wasn't 'high end' at all anymore by the end of 2019.
distant verge
My knowledge mostly comes from the fact Crysis 3 and Skyrim with modded 4K textures (which is higher than 99% of stock textures in games) only pushed 4Gb VRAM to the limit, but never to the point I would crash.
I think it's terrible that instead of optimizing software, companies push more into hardware.
copper mason
An 8gb RX 470/570 model can be had for quite a bargain used, and will still be enough to push good quality textures. DO make sure to get the 8gb models as the 4gb models are a little slower and they're going to be outdated considerably faster.
@distant verge There's A LOT of newer games that go over 4gb and many yet that approach 8gb. I am creating Los Injurus in BeamNG Drive, trust me, 8gb is 'barely a start' when it comes to realizing a city in a video game if you don't like MUD textures. It's a lot of work to fit everything into 8gb in a whole scene, let alone a whole city environment.
distant verge
No need to @ me my 3060 Ti is still shipping (:
copper mason
It's not just textures that go into VRAM. It's models, too. There's a small portion used for frame buffering, AND there's also stuff like Ray Tracing and other on-card features that eat into VRAM to do their calculations and other work. So yes, it's more than just texture space.
dreamy dragonBOT
Z-A-C#4243 has been warned
distant verge
Ahhh yess of course
I totally ignored that Ray Tracing would factor into it; those (and new processing techniques) seem like valid reasons, considering models have also been high poly and in high amount historically.
copper mason
When you start to get into detailing models with lots of smoothed edges (such as curb faces or building corners), realistic plants with many surfaces, roads that are not flat but tapered and have many holes, details like guide-rails and industrial gangways that show even the bolt heads and pipe supports modeled in full 3d, it starts to get 'expensive' fast.
distant verge
That definitely explains a lot
https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/8655 This and a lot of other high quality Skyrim mods has really set a standard for what I personally believe a standard for rendering should look like.
Coupled with texture mods, it's a level of quality you can't reach in most stock games
copper mason
I have a single tunnel model that's 1/8th of a mile long, JUST the model itself is about 0.5GB. The textures are another 200~300MB, plus you have to factor in another 50mb or so for the LOD models (distant models), and so-forth. Now, we need to have a WHOLE CITY or whatever's in view all fit into VRAM. You can see where 4, 6, or 8gb even, can be very, very limited.
distant verge
It's definitely scary to think about
That's the price to pay for non-repeating models and textures
copper mason
Well there's two things limiting the immediate visual immersion of PC games, not including VR or anything like that. Those two things are:
1.) DRAW CALLS. DX11 and below are single-threaded feeding rendering duties from a single CPU core to the GPU. Every separate surface on a model, unless they're like-textured and the textures are joined or 'sewn' together, is a single draw call (plus additional draw calls for specular / reflective mapping, normal-mapping which is like bump-mapping but a little better, and then any illumination and so-forth). While you can have limited success attempting to multi-thread rendering duties in DX11, it's more of a patch than a solution and isn't as thorough as newer DirectX 12.
DX12 / Vulkan both have possibilities for multi-threaded rendering and it's often used.
2.) VRAM, all the models and textures must go here, with enough room left over for the frame buffering needed and the ray tracing / DLSS routines to work their magic.
MS Flight Simulator 2020, Fallout 4's downtown area, and some other titles suffer from DX11's single-threaded draw call issues, which is why some folks will see they're almost always CPU limited (and reviewers on youtube have absolutely zero clue why).
MS Flight Sim will get a DX12 patch one day.
So yes, for the love of game developers, get a card with as much VRAM as is affordable. I have an 8gb 2070 Super (as that was what was available when I needed it), and 8gb IS NOT ENOUGH.
More models of video cards with more than 8gb of VRAM will make their way onto the market in the coming 12 months as the GDDR6 / GDDR6X supply opens up a bit (consoles are really munching this up, 16gb per console though it is shared with system processor usage duties too as RAM).
I hope this wall of text is helpful to someone (but I will go back into hiding for a bit). If anyone has comments or corrections, or just something to add, feel free.
sullen panther
1070 is a lot better
Just look up rx 570 vs 1070 benchmarks on youtube if you want to know the fps and stuff
vernal tangle
What should one be paying for a 1660 Ti. Also is it going to be a decent option for one waiting for a 3070
plain sage
<@!546789282086649856>
When I get home I'll show you my fan curve
It keeps it under 60 and is fairly quiet
lone pond
What is better in price an benefit: RTX 3060 ti or RTX 3070?
glossy adder
Good card for a sub 600 budget?
zealous mist
Any 3070 is going to be similar
glossy adder
Okay thanks
zealous mist
And a good choice for sub 600
glossy adder
okay
zealous mist
From what I’ve heard asus tuf and msi are best and zotac is worst
glossy adder
Oh ok
the reviews for this card look good
and it seems to have a little more stock because of it not being as popular as like asus and FE cards
gritty notch
From what I’ve heard asus tuf and msi are best and zotac is worst
evga best msi ok asus ok z 
tac is worst
pny is like
they dont do anything special
glossy adder
what is wrong with the zotac cards
gritty notch
so no one cares abt them
gritty notch
what is wrong with the zotac cards
someone has to get all the worst dies
theres always gonna be the worst brand
unavoidable
glossy adder
i also do prefer evga, just i feel like they never are in stock
gritty notch
and thats just what zotac is
gritty notch
i also do prefer evga, just i feel like they never are in stock
you tried their site?
glossy adder
yes
gritty notch
lets u get a ticket to wait
evga is in demand because theyre worth the demand
tbh
now pny is alright
but
they do nothing special
its basically like 2% worse FE
gritty notch
for evga u pay for the support
my 980 broke and evga sent me a 1080 as a replacement
glossy adder
well the FTW3 is also in the budget
zealous mist
Benches for 3070 don’t support the fact that zotac is worse tbh
glossy adder
also i hope my cpu is fine with the card and isnt too big of a bottleneck 
gritty notch
Benches for 3070 don’t support the fact that zotac is worse tbh
zotac uses worse components
they got in trouble for using caps that literally popped
zealous mist
Oof
glossy adder
i heard abt that
gritty notch
gritty notch
Sadly, users are reporting a few seemingly recurring problems :
Performance of the card is < than FE cards
RGB seems to F after 30-60 min of utilization
Overclocking seems to be a bit challenging as the card runs into a "power limit" kinda wall
this from their reddit also
zealous mist
I only have fe 780 rn so literally anything is an upgrade haha
gritty notch
yes
gritty notch
I only have fe 780 rn so literally anything is an upgrade haha
lol feel that
i hada 780 for a bit and wew
zealous mist
It’s been good to me
glossy adder
Im also buying a psu for this gpu
zealous mist
Was considering moving it to my new rig until 3090 comes in
zealous mist
Gold 750 should be like 95
glossy adder
also 650w is enough
zealous mist
What CPU/ ram?
zealous mist
Ehh could probably get away with 650
glossy adder
also is the cpu a bottleneck
zealous mist
Might be a bit low
glossy adder
im using a 500w rn with my 2060
gritty notch
glossy adder
its a bit low but i dont put much load on the gpu
zealous mist
What is your use case then
zealous mist
No I mean what are you yusing this pc for
zealous mist
How are you not using your gpu if you’re doing gaming just wondering
glossy adder
lighter gaming
i was planning on getting some more demanding games with a 3070
im probably gonna have to wait until like mid january to buy it tho
zealous mist
Ye fair so I would definitely get at least 750 then
glossy adder
ok
zealous mist
Probably 750 bronze is fine and will get you there
You can also use this https://outervision.com/power-supply-calculator
glossy adder
it suggested me a 500w psu.....
i dont think thats right
or maybe i did something wrong
gritty notch
You can also use this https://outervision.com/power-supply-calculator
those kinda suck, not too accurate
zealous mist
That would explain it
I got a 1000 gold for my rig so I’m trying to translate that to helping other with more budget rig hehe
zealous mist
Haha
glossy adder
Did you input all your fans and peripherals
yes and still got 500w
zealous mist
Yea that doesn’t seem right but I could be wrong about total power usage
zealous mist
Fe is fine you’re just going to get the base version
glossy adder
ok
zealous mist
Could be like technically 2-5% worse than one of the others
But also probs like $50 cheaper
glossy adder
so the pny one is fine if i can get stock
zealous mist
Yea
glossy adder
okay thanks for the help
amber birch
Need help deciding if I should get a 3080. It would be paired with a 2700x but I'm a bit afraid that will bottleneck it a lot, as I've seen people say it would. But not sure if I should believe them. I would upgrade the cpu and mobo in 5-6 months. So should I grab one if I get an opportunity or try to grab a lower 30 series?
ripe ivy
What resolution are you at?
amber birch
1080p and 4k
ripe ivy
Are you gonna be playing games at 4k though?
torn yarrow
what is a good price for a 1080ti?