graphics-cards

[gritty notch]

still purring away in a system somewhere in my house

[shy umbra]

Nice

[spring surge]

guys i need tech support

whats a driver update

[shy umbra]

An update for your drivers

[spring surge]

is it bad

does my laptop have issues

is it a virus im scared sorry

nvidia geforce game ready driver update is available it says

[shy umbra]

You don't even have to download that if you don't want to. It is an update for the application that you don't need, especially if you don't have one of the rtx cards.

[spring surge]

my laptop is acer nitro 5 i7 10thgen gtx 1660ti (2020)

[shy umbra]

Then it is unnecessary. Only update it if you want to.

[spring surge]

its telling me to create a nvidia account

what will the update do

[shy umbra]

That program is just to help optimize game settings.

[spring surge]

so why is tellin me that an update is ready

what happens if i dont do it

i dont even have a nvidia account

[shy umbra]

Because it can be updated. Nothing happens if you don't update it.

[spring surge]

sorry for taking ur time but whats geforce experience

[shy umbra]

Just don't worry about the GeForce software.

[spring surge]

ok then

so i should forget about it all

i got scared cause there was a symbol on the logo

i want to show u screenshot but i cant

[crystal lark]

Guys who want to get a 6800xt over a 3080, please state your reasons and arguments

[shy umbra]

I want a 2060...

[lone pond]

i have bought a 5700xt but dont have the rest of my set up yet and can't do the verification , what can i do to claim?

for the free games with it

[lone pond]

can anybody please link me to an OP GPU apparently the one im looking at wont get higher than 170 FPS. i want higher than 250 FPS on average

i am a very competitive gamer

[shy umbra]

Get an rtx 3090

Bye

[hard wren]

no because they are all sold out at the moment you will need to watch for a release

[plain sage]

What's the problem?

[lone pond]

ok

[hard wren]

but yeah a 3090 is pretty OP

[lone pond]

my current gpu is very crappy and wont run higher than 170 FPS and i need one than runs 250-275 on average

[plain sage]

Ah ok

[shy umbra]

What is your current one?

[plain sage]

What games?

[lone pond]

i dont know i bought it pre built but its like 4GB

[lilac thorn]

170 fps is crap haha run microsoft flight sim

[plain sage]

Go into task manager

[lone pond]

yeah i need a better one pls link me

[lone pond]

i is on mac

[plain sage]

Oh

[lone pond]

i somehow hacked mac onto a desktop

[lilac thorn]

wth oh then you are screwed

why???

[lone pond]

i dont know i felt like it

[shy umbra]

I have a 6gb card. Can't run the newest games at high frames.

[plain sage]

How???

[lone pond]

i now regret that iddea

[plain sage]

I've been wanting to make a hackintosh

[lone pond]

something with using a linux as a server and running data between a mac laptop and that desktop

eventually it downloaded mac automatically

[plain sage]

Oh

[lone pond]

i dont know how that works

[plain sage]

Is it from your mac laptop?

[lone pond]

and now i think it was a VERY STUPID idea and i regret it very

[lone pond]

this is on my laptop yes

[plain sage]

Oh ok

Well you can still reinstall windows

[lone pond]

i am on laptop now my mac crashed the desktop so i replaced the drive

and i am getting windows soon but after i replace the CPU and GPU and case

i have a gud CPU but i need a pretty good GPU

[plain sage]

What cpu do you have?

[lone pond]

gimme a sec im getting the info my laptop is rlly slow its like 6 or 7 years old

its also a hand-me-down

[plain sage]

You're lucky you have a macbook

[lone pond]

Intel Core i9-9900KF Coffee Lake 8-Core, 16-Thread, 3.6 GHz (5.0 GHz Turbo) LGA 1151 (300 Series) 95W BX80684I99900KF Desktop Processor Without Graphics

its an: Intel Core i9-9900KF Coffee Lake 8-Core, 16-Thread, 3.6 GHz (5.0 GHz Turbo) LGA 1151 (300 Series) 95W BX80684I99900KF Desktop Processor Without Graphics

[plain sage]

Oh wow

Yeah get mac os off of that

[lone pond]

i did

i replaced the SSD

[plain sage]

Get a 3070 when they come in stock

[lone pond]

and upgraded it

[lone pond]

that will get 250-275 frames on average and preferably 10ms-20ms on average?

[lilac thorn]

did it come with windows

[plain sage]

Probably

The 3070 beats the 2080 ti

[lone pond]

ok

would a 3090 be overkill?

[plain sage]

Try to figure out what gpu you have rn

Probably

[lone pond]

its crappy thats all i know

[plain sage]

What games do you play?

[lone pond]

mc, roblox, fortnite, valorant, CB 2077, GTA 5

and unity wil 2TB of files

most of these are on my backup windows laptop that is also very crappy

so i am transfer data later

[plain sage]

Why do you need 250 fps?

Do you have a 244hz monitot?

[lone pond]

bc i am a very competitive gamer

[lone pond]

144

[plain sage]

Bruh

[lone pond]

i am upgrading to 200hz gsync

[brazen parrot]

I want to start streaming fortnite on twitch, then turn those streams into videos. I have an I7-10700k. What graphics card should I get? I have 2 1080p 144hz monitors btw. If you think I should I can get a 3080.

[plain sage]

You still dont jeed 250 fps then

[lone pond]

i do tho

if thats average then i will never lage again

i have had enough lag for a lifetime

my current laptop on average has 250ms and 50 FPS

[plain sage]

Probably a 3070 or maybe 3080. I think for 1080p streaming the 3070 would create less of a bottleneck

[plain sage]

But those aren't even competitive games

[lone pond]

i mean i download competitive games

i plan on downlaoding overwatch and joining fortnite tournaments soon

[plain sage]

Also roblox is capped at 60fps

[lone pond]

thats literally the only game that runs smoothly

[plain sage]

Lol

Don't be complaining

I have a 1050 non to and a dual core cpu

[lone pond]

the other games are literal censored

cool

im gonna get a 3070 or 3080

and upgrade to 3090 later

[plain sage]

Are you gonna stream?

[lone pond]

thanks for ur help

[plain sage]

Wait

[lone pond]

definetly

[plain sage]

Ok

Well 3090 is utter overkill

[lone pond]

exactly

[plain sage]

The only people who get it are tech youtubers

And people who spend their life savings on pcs

[lone pond]

i might hire someone to custom build GPU, CPU, motherboard, monitor, and alot of other stuff

i have about $200,000 dollars to blow

[plain sage]

I could build it

[lone pond]

nah

later i mean

[plain sage]

200k????

[lone pond]

in a couple of years

i mean 20k

oops

[plain sage]

When the budget goes over 2.5k the performance barely increases, especially for gaming

[lone pond]

ok

[plain sage]

So it would be more worth it to get 5950x and 3090

[lone pond]

ok

im just gonna get a 3070 probably

thanks!!!

[plain sage]

Np

Good luck finding one in stock btw

And don't pay scalpers your money

[dreamy dragon]

xtreme#5015 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

[pliant verge]

do you think i can play cyber punk at lowest settings on a 1050ti

[coarse spindle]

I belive I saw a video on that

[tender mulch]

Ye

1080p

Don't expect great FPS though

[pliant verge]

ok do you think i can get 30 fps

[gritty notch]

mid 20s

[tender mulch]

No

[gritty notch]

the thing is it also hits cpu hard

so whatever you have paired with that 1050ti is prolly also gonna bottleneck it

[thin relic]

yeah my cpu is bottlenecking the gpu 6%

1050ti

[tender mulch]

What CPU?

[thin relic]

i5 4440

[tender mulch]

You'll be 30-40 FPS on low @1080p

[thin relic]

i got a wqhd monitor

na im not sticking to low fps xd

ill wait till i upgraded my rig

[tender mulch]

Good idea

It brings my 2060 to it's knees at 1400p on Medium

[thin relic]

its singleplayer so i wont miss much

when i got my 3080 i7 10700k ill buy cyberpunk xd

but thats not going to happen the next months

like over 1000 for it???!

f this sht

1.999,00€ for rtx 3080

nice

[tender mulch]

Scalper prices

[thin relic]

yes they should burn

[abstract dome]

i have I7-7700 and cyberpunk bottlenecks me 100% cpu 10% gpu msi ventus 2060 super

[scenic jolt]

Hello I have a HP Envy 700-149 and I'm looking to upgrade I have figured out that I can increase the RAM to a max of 16 GB and the hard drive to at least 1 TB I would like to have the capabilities of 4 monitors but not sure what video card it will accept or what video card I need for, four monitors any help would be appreciated Thanks

[tender mulch]

That will be interesting

Assuming you want to game on it a little bit too?

NO scalping

No buying, no selling

See Rule #9

@scenic jolt Assuming you want to game a little bit too or just 4 outputs for everyday use?

Also, do your monitors have Dsiplayports on them?

[scenic jolt]

No I don't game want them for stock trading various charts and graphs thanks

[tender mulch]

Do any of your monitors have Displayport?

[scenic jolt]

Yes they all have both HDMI and the older pin connections

[tender mulch]

Oh, that's going to be an issue. You'll need at least 1 with display port. Most cards with Dual DVI connectors (the old pin ones) can only use one at a time

We can make this happen but you'll need a DisplayPort monitor (Not HDMI)

Something like this would work

https://www.amazon.com/Gigabyte-Geforce-Profile-Graphic-GV-N105TOC-4GL/dp/B06WWLWWJM

Or you'll need a cable with Displayport to HDMI adapter

That would work too

[scenic jolt]

I'm not sure what you mean by display port, each monitor has both imputs, and I have two sey up and working but the computer as is says two are the maximum it can run so I thought by getting a new graphics card I could increase that

sey is set

[tender mulch]

Displayport is almost like HDMI but not. You'll need an adapter cable to use that card. Dsiplayport to HDMI cable

The card I posted can do 4 monitors but you'll need a Displayport to HDMI adapter

So

You'll have one monitor DVI (old school pins), 2 HDMI, and One Displayport to HDMI

[scenic jolt]

Ok got it thank you for you assistance and help Ric

[tender mulch]

Welcome!

[severe basin]

Wish me luck, I'm about to update from 456.55 to 460.89

[wraith pasture]

?ban 419544469952659457 scalping gpu via dm

[old ember]

Banned LittleSaigonSavage#9296

[lone pond]

Lmao

I blocked the guy

Tried to scam me

[tender mulch]

Just tried me too

I warned him

He talked back

🤷

[wraith pasture]

https://tenor.com/view/eat-miss-kobayashi-dragon-maid-meidoragon-gif-7889888

[lone pond]

[tender mulch]

Theo, I took back my comment about you smelling

[wraith pasture]

wow

[tender mulch]

You didn't see that last night?

I made a Jingle Bells

[wraith pasture]

[tender mulch]

slinks away to CP2077

[spark pebble]

yall think a drops comin tn?👀

[mortal dagger]

hey there, i just purchased a rog strix 2070 oc and im experiencing artifacting on the stock clock

[tender mulch]

Used?

[mortal dagger]

i uninstalled all drivers with ddu while disconnected from internet and reinstalled drivers as such but still experiencing it

no its not used

what im noticing though is if i lower the memory clock then the card performs just fine in benchmarks

[tender mulch]

Power supply?

[mortal dagger]

i have a 750cm

i think its called idr

its a 750 though

[tender mulch]

Yeah, should be fine

How far down do you have turn the mem clock?

And what are the fan temps?

[mortal dagger]

im testing it now i lowered it all the way for the first benchmark

[tender mulch]

Sorry

GPU temps

[mortal dagger]

i have it right now at -1400

[tender mulch]

GPU temp?

[mortal dagger]

36c

[tender mulch]

under load?

[mortal dagger]

yeah

[tender mulch]

What's the BIOS switch set to on the card?

[mortal dagger]

p mode

[tender mulch]

Shut down and try it on the other mode

Just in case the switch was half way between or something

[mortal dagger]

i have im still getting artifacting

[tender mulch]

icky

[mortal dagger]

stock memory clock on gpu tweak says 14002

i had it set down -1400 so i'll do like 1k see what i get

[tender mulch]

That seems high

[mortal dagger]

its just the stock clock on the card idk

https://prnt.sc/w5ogcy

[tender mulch]

14GHZ

Ye, that's correct

[mortal dagger]

let me try 13

[dreamy dragon]

Lord Arcemus#3264 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

[mortal dagger]

zzz

either way if i have to set the clock speed down i should probably just rma anyways right

[tender mulch]

OH ye, definitely

[mortal dagger]

im never gonna get my card back though lol

i had to wait a month for it

when i bought it

im even raising the boost clock while the memory is still clocked at 13ghz and its performing optimal

[faint dune]

hello, I would like to ask When the RTX 3080 will be available in the website 😀 😊 😩 😩

[tender mulch]

no one knows

[faint dune]

so bad 😫

[hybrid kettle]

Just press f5 a lot

[steep dew]

or just look on ofer up 🙂

[tender mulch]

No. Scalpers are bad.

[faint dune]

will do

[crystal lark]

anyone w/ a 6800xt?

[lone pond]

i have a 1010

[crystal lark]

funny

[coarse spindle]

gt210 days

[lone pond]

i got a RX 5100 xt

[long raft]

Wtf, the cpu sold within a second of getting notification for availability

[lone pond]

5600x?

[long raft]

5900x

[lone pond]

oof

[long raft]

As soon as I got a notification dropwdown and I clicked with a second and the item was gone.

[faint dune]

[frozen seal]

[faint dune]

[spring surge]

guys is geforce experience good

[tender mulch]

I use it, I'm happy with it

nVIdia Shadowplay works well

Let's you record in the past, IE the last 5-20 minutes of game play, no need to remember to hit RECORD right away

[spring surge]

how about driver updates?

[tender mulch]

Yup

those too

[spring surge]

are driver updates important

[tender mulch]

FOr me that's just a bonus for the other features. Plus it makes it easy to stream

Oh yeah they are

[spring surge]

so u reckon i should make an account

and do the driver update

[tender mulch]

If you don't want it you can always get the latest drivers manually from nVidia.com

Just download and install

[spring surge]

i have a gaming laptop

just one question

someone told me to ignore it if i dont have rtx

[tender mulch]

Ignore what?

Driver updates?

[spring surge]

yeah

[tender mulch]

That's BS, 100%

[spring surge]

will driver updates give me better performance

[tender mulch]

Potentially

[spring surge]

do u do driver updates?

[tender mulch]

Depends on teh game and what's in the update

I always do

[spring surge]

aight thanks man il give it a try

[tender mulch]

It's good for ya!

[cobalt star]

is newegg dropping in 10 minutes?

[tender mulch]

Potentially

[cobalt star]

ok

I'll try to get it

[spring surge]

@tender mulch i dont think i need to do the driver update

cause its for a specific game

[tender mulch]

You should

It's not just for Cyberpunk

Always update drivers

[spring surge]

il dm u

[tender mulch]

No need to DM

Just keep your drivers up to date

ALl of them

Motherboard included

[vivid sequoia]

[spring surge]

@tender mulch have u done that update

[tender mulch]

If you go to https://www.nvidia.com/en-us/geforce/drivers/

and look up your 1660TI

That update applies to your card as well

[spark pebble]

was there a drop?

[small swallow]

Nope

I was expecting one too

[spring surge]

do i click custom installation or express installation

@tender mulch

[olive birch]

They might not have one until after Christmas imo

[shy forge]

They ought to let stock go up before they drop em so there are not as many scalpers

[small swallow]

Think tbis guy is willing to give me his 3060 on eBay though so I might be good

$550

Not a bad deal considering I’m desperate

[olive birch]

amazon screw me over with a evga 3080 ftw, I had it locked in and ready to ship, and they cancelled the order due to "technical glitch"

[small swallow]

Last part I need since mu original GPU order was cancelled and then went out of stock

Similar situation here but it was a 2060 super off adorama

[shy forge]

I considered dropping from a 3070 to 3080 but ik ill be pissed at myself if I do

[low niche]

i think i made a big mistake so i oc my gpu and it shot up to 115 degrees is that bad

i tried to add a extra 500mhz to it

and its in a laptop

[olive birch]

.... seems fine long as you can cook a steak on top

[low niche]

well looks like a got a new grill

[cobalt star]

Damn I don't have a bday gift today. I thought I could get a 3060ti to finally build a pc but no stock like always

[broken junco]

what’s a good 200-300$ graphic card?

[graceful quail]

am i going to have a bottleneck with a i7 7700k and rtx 2070 non super ?

[velvet nebula]

gtx 1660 is probably your best bet right now, 1660 ti if you are willing to spend a lil over 300 and if u can find a good deal

[broken junco]

could u send me a link to it?

@velvet nebula

[velvet nebula]

ope, cant send best buy links apparently :/

but if you just look up on best buy website a 1660 there in stock for about 300 rn, and weirdly the best deal rn is from staples for 270

unfortunately newegg has low stock rn, but if you look around you can find some good deals

[olive birch]

I don't think so

[lucid raven]

@twilit zealotbrady you can find some 2060s Bstock for around that if your lucky from EVGA

[cunning dust]

are all of the 20 series cards going to be restocked soon after christmas

[tender mulch]

They were discontinued in July

So

Probably not

Wut, they stopped production on the dies

IKR

We're gonna discontinue the old and make the new not available

So screw you

[simple pelican]

What are good websites to shop for parts other than like amazon, CanadaComputers, and newegg

That might actually have stock lmfao

NO

EBAY IS WURST

?

eBay prices are wack lol

Especially shipping

Phrog

Ye

Ik

$100 shipping all around

I honestly dunno wat goes through there heads

How

Would someone wanna spend $100 on shipping

For like a whole PC it’s understandable but

[finite citrus]

Ok I have a question

Do y’all think an i7 9700k can not limit frames if I get an rtx 3070

I have a 1660ti and I’m thinking abt upgrading

[clear frigate]

Things do be different when you didn't have one and can't get one though

It's a feels bad for those people including myself

I don't have any gpu or a cpu with dedicated graphics so it don't work

I know I was just tossing a coin for those who do need it and still can't

Wasn't targeting or anything sorry if it felt that way

No it didn't i was trying to make sure I didn't come off as attacking

Lol

My friend just offered to sell me his 1660ti since he's buying a 3060ti off a scalper

[dreamy dragon]

Rommy#7202 has been warned

Reason: Duplicated text

[velvet nebula]

lol

[clear frigate]

I mean he's desperate to get ray tracing and all that good stuff

So he just said f it scalpers take me money

Yeah but this guy isn't a big techie and just sees new features and wants if

It*

550

Hence him selling his 1660 to someone he knows to rush the sale and get money

That's a lot of frog emotes

[velvet nebula]

phrog

[clear frigate]

Nah it's funny just a lot of them it's impression

Impressive*

[urban remnant]

It’s satisfying to clear notifications for this server then see each get highlighted one by one again loll

[hidden imp]

I have a line on a 1070 founders edition 8gb for 250 is it worth?

[gritty notch]

maybe

[lone pond]

1070 ti it would be

1070 no

thats near 1660

super pric

[lone pond]

Can't even find a 5600xt in stock not to mention any new ryzen or GPUs. Late stage capitalism is fun

[gritty notch]

https://outline.com/PTNhYk

[eager timber]

damn

[gritty notch]

love this design

[eager timber]

nice box

[gritty notch]

blower 3090 time

[eager timber]

ye

ima get an rtx when they go down in price

all of them are still huge price

lowest price for a 2060 is 270 rn

[sonic ether]

Hey guys, I have the GTX 1650 (not super version) and have noticed that my VRAM (4 GB) is constantly pegged out at 100% in MSFS causing terrible frame rate spikes as it has to pull from normal RAM. What do you guys think would be a good upgrade that won’t break the bank? Anyone have experience with the GTX 1660 Ti?

[gritty notch]

depends what settings you want to run FS on

its a very heavy game

flight sims always are

[sonic ether]

@gritty notch I’m fine with medium settings honestly. I just know that VRAM is without a doubt my limiting factor here. Hard to tell how far over the 4 GB Mark I am

[gritty notch]

settings page should tell you?

[sonic ether]

I’ll check, which settings page?

I’ve only ever seen it as a percentage of available VRAM capped at 100%

[waxen notch]

I think he meant recommended specs page

For the game itself

[queen abyss]

ok should i get the RTX 3070 or a Ryzen GPU

my gpu/cpu rn is a 1660 Ventus MSI and Amd Ryzen 5 3600x

[ripe ivy]

It's not Ryzen, it's Radeon

[lone pond]

if you only gonna game
either GPUs gonna be fine

[narrow prism]

RX6800 or better is where my money would go

[queen abyss]

im gameing always so

[lone pond]

yeah, either GPUs gonna be fine

[queen abyss]

aight, cool

[lone pond]

now on features is where nvidia have better stuff

[queen abyss]

right

plus i have like alot of triple a games on epic and steam so

[tender mulch]

Unless you're playing 1440p, get a 3060TI or a new CPU

[lone pond]

well, for AAA games i kinda would recommend a rtx instead of rx

because DLSS

[gritty notch]

if you ONLY game then amd is okayish

and if you dont care about dlss or raytracing

otherwise amd is hot trash imo

[queen abyss]

lol

right and honestly i dont think changing the cpu won't do too much

[gritty notch]

if you want to stream, or want dlss or rtx

[queen abyss]

i might replace the cpu change with more RAM

[gritty notch]

nvidia

[lone pond]

the cpu is alright

[tender mulch]

Depends

[queen abyss]

cause like two 32 gb of ram costs only 199 or 200 dollars so i dont see a problem with it

[gritty notch]

you dont need 64gb

[queen abyss]

lol

i can go with atleast 32 or 48 gb

32 gb most likely

[gritty notch]

you prolly dont need 32gb either

[queen abyss]

oh

[gritty notch]

as someone with obscene amounts of ram

[tender mulch]

I have 32 and don't even use it all unless I'm running a server

[gritty notch]

most ppl dont need it

[queen abyss]

okay so in summary just 3070?

[gritty notch]

i was thinking of adding another 256 to my main server

[tender mulch]

For 1080p or 1440p?

[lone pond]

or 3060 ti if you gaming on 1080p

[queen abyss]

both @tender mulch

[gritty notch]

but i literally dont even use the 192ish i have in it rn

[queen abyss]

im gaming on 1440p most likely because my computer is obscenely good

[lone pond]

3070/3080 then

[queen abyss]

gotchu

now if we're talking about 3070/3080

which company.

[lone pond]

i would.go rtx for 1440p
due to dlss

[queen abyss]

im saying evga or msi imo

for the company of 3070/3080

because evga or msi has good graphic cards and they are pretty cheap or fair price atleast

[lone pond]

msi

[gritty notch]

evga only

imo

unless someone else is like over $100 less

[queen abyss]

ok so EVGA

EVGA 3070

gotcha

[gritty notch]

yea

are u in the US?

[queen abyss]

yes

HOLY SHIT

FTW3 FOR 610 DOLLARS

[gritty notch]

lul

if you bold things does the bot not get it

[queen abyss]

ooh i also get a shirt too with just gaming rtx 3070

now i like a tshirt when i see it

[crystal lark]

Anyone with a 6800xt plz DM me

[gritty notch]

hehe

[crystal lark]

Am still debating to keep or trade the 3080 with a 6800 xt

[queen abyss]

nah

bad trade

[gritty notch]

why get a amd card

[lone pond]

don't do that lol

[gritty notch]

u got the good card

[crystal lark]

Vram bruhhh

[gritty notch]

vram doesnt matter tbh

[queen abyss]

still debating if i should get FTW 3070 EVGA or something less

[crystal lark]

Sitting brand new and waiting

For a decision

[queen abyss]

how much watts do i need for 3070

[clear frigate]

750 recommended

[crystal lark]

It will on 2 years

[dreamy dragon]

Vent#0586 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

[lone pond]

you got dlss tho

[queen abyss]

ack

[gritty notch]

bad rt and no dlss and no hw encoder will matter more

[queen abyss]

oh no i dont know my power supply watts number

[gritty notch]

im fine with slightly worse textures if it means i can raytrace

[crystal lark]

I don't and won't use rt, I care less about the hw encoder and dlss is nice but I prefer vram headroom

[gritty notch]

if you wanna be dumb abt it then im not stopping you

[queen abyss]

i think i have 750 watts @clear frigate

[crystal lark]

There is a 60% performance hit on rt. That's not slightly

[gritty notch]

go make someones day and trade down

@crystal lark i meant im fine with less vram for textures

[tender mulch]

This again? KEK.

[gritty notch]

do whatever u feel like doing tbh

[queen abyss]

im gonna go for the ftw evga gaming 3070

[gritty notch]

you seem to have your mind made up already

[queen abyss]

Yes.

its only 610 dollars which is alot cheaper

[gritty notch]

no im talking to the person whos trading down

[queen abyss]

oh

[tender mulch]

1400p gaming won't use more than 7-8 GB of VRAM anyway which is what they're gaming at

*1440p

[crystal lark]

But it's kinda ironic. Ray tracing will require more vram, and ur defending a card that has less vram.

[gritty notch]

but muh vrams

[tender mulch]

Because we know that VRAM doesn't mean much

[crystal lark]

Today. In two years....

[clear frigate]

I mean lads allowed to consider amd it's not a sin

[crystal lark]

It's a different story

[tender mulch]

Not really

[gritty notch]

nah

[crystal lark]

It's like saying two years ago 6gb is plenty. Well today it's the opposite.

[tender mulch]

You just said you care not about RT, yet are using it

[gritty notch]

but 6gb is still fine

[tender mulch]

6 GB VRAM still fine

[hard wren]

4gb not so fine

[crystal lark]

Am not using rt

Never did

[gritty notch]

nice job proving yourself wrong though

[crystal lark]

6gb is fine? Lol Ur sleeping under a rock bro

[tender mulch]

Nope

[hard wren]

1080p sure it is

[crystal lark]

Doom eternal uses 8-9

[gritty notch]

nah u just have a boner for big numbers

[crystal lark]

Or at least allocated that much

[tender mulch]

You've been told the same thing by everyone you've talked to here

So trade it, or use it

[crystal lark]

I want to trade it

[gritty notch]

then do it

[tender mulch]

So freaking trade it

[gritty notch]

youre clearly believing you know everything here

[crystal lark]

Well am waiting

[hard wren]

or you could pour gasoline on it and light it on fire....?

[gritty notch]

so go get rid of it

[gritty notch]

i like this new option

[tender mulch]

You keep posting here because you want someone to tell you you're right

[crystal lark]

Why u guys are so cought up

[gritty notch]

we arent lmao

[tender mulch]

We're not. You keep asking the same thing every day.

[crystal lark]

Nope I want feedback from 6800 xt owners

[gritty notch]

6800xt owners are too busy regretting their life choices to help you

[crystal lark]

Yayaya

[hard wren]

lol its not that bad

[crystal lark]

U sound like a sore one

[lone pond]

[tender mulch]

Honestly, just trade the card

[gritty notch]

if you only game and dont do anything else with it then its passable yeah

[tender mulch]

It's what you want so just do it

[gritty notch]

i hate people who come in here with their minds already made up

just wastes everyones time

[crystal lark]

Im waiting for that actually

[hard wren]

its ok I still like you crazy fan boys

[crystal lark]

High fps, lots of vram. I really don't need rt, dlss, or encoding

[gritty notch]

then its passable if youre ok with trash drivers

[crystal lark]

I don't stream like a kid

[hard wren]

I used to think that but DLSS is actually like a small miracle

[gritty notch]

not even better just passable

[tender mulch]

3080 + 1440p + DLSS = amazeballs

[gritty notch]

in 2 years youre gonna see games with optimized rt and cry into your oversized vram

[crystal lark]

Dlss won't save u when a game needs 11gb ram in 3 years

[tender mulch]

1440p won't

[gritty notch]

@crystal lark which wont happen

its cute that you think that though

enjoy sitting on your vram i guess

[hard wren]

too be fair it actually might since it halfs the resolution lol

[spring oxide]

pojjere

[crystal lark]

U guys say it won't. Facts are different

[gritty notch]

please pull some up then

[hard wren]

oh there are facts now?

[crystal lark]

If we said three years ago that 8gb would be enough it would been a lie

[hard wren]

no it wouldnt.....

[gritty notch]

youre just talking out of your ass because you made your mind up about getting this worse card

its fine you dont need to defend it lmao

[hard wren]

8gb is enough....

[crystal lark]

K lemme pull u actual numbers then

[gritty notch]

and 8gb is still enough

[crystal lark]

Facts

[spring oxide]

8 gb is enough

maybe

[gritty notch]

youre literally just digging a hole right now

[crystal lark]

8gb is not enough today don't kid yourselves

[tender mulch]

Yes it is

[gritty notch]

it most definitely is

[hard wren]

unless you are gaming in 4k/8k 8gb is enough

[crystal lark]

Not it's not

[gritty notch]

[tender mulch]

Yes, it is

[spring oxide]

i use 128 gb

[queen abyss]

why do you need a 16+ gb gpu

what the heck

[gritty notch]

cause stupid

[hard wren]

and for higher resolutions

[queen abyss]

8gb is good enough for me i dont get this

[tender mulch]

inb4 he posts Doom screenshots using more than 8 GB

[gritty notch]

lmao

im waiting for it

[queen abyss]

realization that i have a 16 gb 1660

I'm dead as hell

[hard wren]

this is the person they made the 3090 and its 24gb of vram for lol

[gritty notch]

workstation gpu

it kicks ass at that btw

[tender mulch]

Doesn't the A6000 have 48 GB VRAM?

[gritty notch]

yes

[tender mulch]

The new workstation card?

[hard wren]

yeah but it costs a lot more

[tender mulch]

OH yeah, for sure

[spring oxide]

koko

[gritty notch]

just buy a rtx6000 from me

ez

[hard wren]

I wanted a 3090 to flex on people.... but my wife said no

[spring oxide]

sureee

[gritty notch]

lol nil

[tender mulch]

I just want a 3070. I'll suffer with low VRAM at 1440p

[gritty notch]

24gb vram

[hard wren]

just have 11gb of vram like a normal mortal

[gritty notch]

ill take 3100 for one

i have 2

if someone wants to do some sli action

[spring oxide]

i start the bid at $5

[hard wren]

$5.01

[gritty notch]

inb4 couldnt find anything

[spring oxide]

5.02

[gritty notch]

now will pull made up stats out of his ass

[torpid gyro]

SLI is ded

[gritty notch]

maybe for braindead gamers

these are workstation cards

[hard wren]

nvlink and sli are mistakenly interchanged but we let it slide 😉

[torpid gyro]

Lol

[queen abyss]

does rtx 3070 16+ gbs exist

[spring oxide]

no

[gritty notch]

i just say sli cause less letters

[round crown]

5.03

[gritty notch]

and also because i know no one here is actually going to buy anything from me

yall just play games

[torpid gyro]

Me here with my 2060ko able to run cyberpunk smoothly and an i7

[gritty notch]

theres maybe 3 homelabbers here

ok

[torpid gyro]

Comparatively do you guys know if a 2060ti is better than a KO ultra?

[spring oxide]

7 dollars and seventy two cents final offer

[hard wren]

really need that 12/15 nvidia update if on a 2080ti my 2077 game went all wonky until I updated drivers

[gritty notch]

2060ti doesnt exist so no

[ripe ivy]

There is no 2060 Ti

[dreamy dragon]

foilpaperIQ#2040 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

[gritty notch]

[torpid gyro]

Frick 2080

[hard wren]

there is a 2060super

[torpid gyro]

No yep 2060 super

I can't type bdisbkdbksbdw

[gritty notch]

depends

in like 2 tasks the KO crushes everything up to a 2080

[hard wren]

2060ko is better than super for some things like workstation tasks its like a 2080 die that didnt pass muster

[gritty notch]

for everything else nah not rlu

[crystal lark]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bLeComolWDE

[tender mulch]

If youbwant a 2060 for ray tracing, just dont. For everything else its fine.

[gritty notch]

yeah nil for like 2 modded programs you can get 2080 perf

[crystal lark]

Look at 1:40

[hard wren]

lol yep

[torpid gyro]

I mean, i use a ko for rtx and it works awesome

[gritty notch]

breaking news: ram usage expands to fill the space given to it

[tender mulch]

So what? Youre discounting the bandwidth advantages of gddr6x vs gddr6.

[gritty notch]

ever wondered why windows uses more ram on idle when you have 32gb vs 16gb?

stupid argument lmao

[tender mulch]

AMD provides more because they dont have the bandwidth and have to make up for it.

[crystal lark]

Bandwidth has absolutely nothing to do with ram space

[hard wren]

This is something that is really hard to explain to people but so true

[crystal lark]

Don't ever mix both

[tender mulch]

Lol!!!

Yes it does

[gritty notch]

zolder do you have like

a massive dent in your skull where the brain is supposed to go

[crystal lark]

Insulting instead of arguing I see

[gritty notch]

big number doesnt mean better perf always 100% of the time

[crystal lark]

So lemme ask Ur poor soul

Why u can to afford a 3080

[hard wren]

don't insult the person just their point of view 😉

[gritty notch]

i already blew a massive hole in your argument

[gritty notch]

what does this mean

[tender mulch]

Kid

[crystal lark]

Bandwidth and vram space are two completely different aspects

[tender mulch]

Lol

[crystal lark]

Lol at you

U got reading to do bro

[tender mulch]

XD

[gritty notch]

are you just ignoring me destroying the point it took you 20 mins to find

[tender mulch]

Keep going. Please.

[crystal lark]

Vram = how many cars a parking can hold. Actually hold. Bandwidth is how fast they can get in and out of that parking

[tender mulch]

Just trade your card so you feel better.

[gritty notch]

just trade your card and then cry when you cant run anything properly

enjoy the blackscreens uwu

[spring oxide]

uwu

[ripe ivy]

[crystal lark]

So bandwidth won't let u hold more cars

And at 1440p, the higher the texture quality is, the more space u need

[tender mulch]

Textures dont permanently sit in vram

[hard wren]

sort of true but you are missing some pieces

[tender mulch]

You want them in and out quickly, not parked

[gritty notch]

lmao

this person

[crystal lark]

They don't, but if u need a lot of space because of textures, u will need a lot of space

[hard wren]

how fast the cars go = speed of the ram

[tender mulch]

But im done. Youre here to purely argue. Good day.

[gritty notch]

they know just enough to be unteachable @tender mulch

[crystal lark]

That's it? U gave up?

[gritty notch]

[crystal lark]

If I need 10 cars to park, and my parking can only hold 8....does it matter how fast I can move them in and out?

I still need the space for 10!

[hard wren]

also unless you have a bunch of entrances and exits (more bandwidth) in your parking garage analogy the garage can only be so big since ram capacity is directly dependent on ram bandwidth and how many ram chips can be stacked

[crystal lark]

Not the speed of 8

[gritty notch]

im done lmao you pulled a shapiro

[crystal lark]

Ya sure Ur out of arguments

[spring oxide]

seggs

[gritty notch]

i just dont feel like wasting my time on someone like you

[crystal lark]

Sure go waste it elsewhere am not asking u to be here

[gritty notch]

im sure if you believe you're right for long enough it might just come true

just believe harder!!

[crystal lark]

K thx bye

[hard wren]

👋🏼

[crystal lark]

Am still here bruh

I said bye to the other person

[hard wren]

but....

[crystal lark]

To lili

Not myself lol

But am waiting for facts if anyone has

At least I provided a video

And some explanation

[hard wren]

you do both have valid points but they are correct in that you arent seeing the whole picture

many of the things you said are true but they are dependent on other factors

[crystal lark]

Am listening

U know what we really need to end all this argument???

[haughty crescent]

Is it possible to install drivers to a gpu if u can’t get a display signal after first boot with a new card, by putting an old gpu in to get the signal to install drivers?

[torpid gyro]

So being right for the wrong reasons

[crystal lark]

A program that can actually monitor vram usage, not allocation, per process

[hard wren]

for example bandwidth and capacity are directly tied. the more bandwidth you have the more ram chips you can stack ergo a higher capacity of ram on card. Cant have one with out the other

[crystal lark]

Or per game

[torpid gyro]

Ooh another analogy could be voltage and current

Can't have high of one without the other (to shock you)

[crystal lark]

They are indeed tied, but one does not replace the other. That's the whole point

If u have 1gb vram and the fastest speed ever, it's useless.

If u have the slowest vram on the planet but 100gb vram it's also useless

However if games need more vram as time goes, we'll then u actually need more vram

[hard wren]

see but their point is that you cant have the slowest vram at 100gb because then the card would be as big as a house

[crystal lark]

K fine say 20 Gb vram

And the slowest speed possible

It's as useless as the fastest vram with 1 Gb

[hard wren]

then it would be huge since the memory couldnt be stacked

[crystal lark]

What's huge?

We have cards with 20gb vram

Even more

[hard wren]

memory can only stack if its fast enough to communicate through the layers

I mean it would just be useless in your analogy the outer memory wouldnt even be used it would be a like a 1gb card where you paid for/ put 20-gb on there lol

[crystal lark]

K lemme put it this way for you. 1gb vram with gddr6x is as useless as 20gb vram with gddr2

Makes sense now?

[hard wren]

sure now we are talking about ram generation gaps but sure

[crystal lark]

Ya

[hard wren]

it is slower

[crystal lark]

So if textures require more and more vram

As they been doing

There is no way around it

[ripe ivy]

I'm more concerned about drive space than Vram use tbh

[hard wren]

a 20gb card with ddr2 would be worse than a 20gb card with gddr6 yes

[ripe ivy]

That's a different topic entirely though, these devs need to work out better file compression I think

[crystal lark]

Yep

I agree

But the facts are that games use more and more and more space

Not the opposite

6 years ago if I told u a game will allocate 12.5 Gb vram in 2020 (like MS flight Sim or some other games) u gonna laugh at me

Because at the time 6gb was the norm

[hard wren]

vram is certainly important and it becomes more and more so the higher resolution you want to use it for

[crystal lark]

Yep

Am, not worried today 10gb is actually enough. Three years later...

It's a different story

I don't wanna change cards every generation

[hard wren]

see the problem with that is the speed at witch we adapt new resolutions

[crystal lark]

Also games requires better textures and quality as they evolve. So more vram

[hard wren]

if we do all move to 8k screens and want to play in an 8k resolution than I agree with you but I think that wont be as soon as you think

[crystal lark]

People want better looking games

Rtx is a perfect example

Ppl want reflections, etc

And that comes at a gpu and vram cost

At 1440p games are allocating 11-12gb today

As in right now

[hard wren]

as many of the people on here have attempted to mention to you though many of these things textures, reflections, refractions, triangulation, etc... are not stored in the GPUs vram they come and go very fast

I can get confused sometimes too and basically consider all of things to be "shaders" but that is incorrect and even I have to be told that sometimes lol

From many tests conducted on the RTX cards we know that RTX uses very little vram at all

[crystal lark]

K whatever the game Devs are doing, they are allocating tons of vram, and time goes, and no one really knows what they are actually using. So until we know what they are actually using per game per resolution, on max settings it's a lost argument

And so I rather have more vram than less

It's as simple as that. The 6800xt is still a ver powerful card

And it's vram is actually slower

But not so slow to matter at 1440p

It's at 4k that it suffers

So if u have 4k, 3080 is better. But if u have 4k, vram is more important.

[hard wren]

thats true

[crystal lark]

Which means the 3080ti would be the best pick if Ur 4k

[hard wren]

but the 3080 can still be better at 1440p with dlss so there is that too

[crystal lark]

Yep

It's just no one actually measured actual vram

So till then, it's all assumptions and bs

To tell us how much vram u save when u e able dlss or whatever other features

[lone pond]

dlss, you gonna use less vram due to it just begin a upscaling

[crystal lark]

Yep

But not much less

It's 500mb to max 1gb vram less, but again, we need a tool that monitors and confirms actual v ram usage

[astral mist]

GTX 1070 vs RTX 3060ti
Processor is a Ryzen 7 5800X

ROG Strix 3080 OC on the way

[lone pond]

Hello

lol

rx570 8gb or 1050ti 4gb

with 1600af

[gritty notch]

570 but get it used

[pale path]

i second the 570, my 8gb 580 runs cyberpunk with most settings on ultra or high

its sad when you build a new rig and test the old one before getting ready to sell it and a game runs flawlessly

[kindred jewel]

I’ve got both rtx3080 and rx6800xt. Both unopened. What should I use?

[gritty notch]

3080

[lone pond]

3080

[kindred jewel]

My build is Intel i9 10th gen

[lone pond]

nice.

[kindred jewel]

Scored both gpus from Newegg

The rx6800xt is the Asus strix with liquid cooling

Aesthetically it’s nicer than the RTX3080

But I know performance is better on RTX. That’s why I’m kinda having a difficult time deciding which one to use

[ripe ivy]

Why did you buy both, and are now undecided for which to use?

[pale path]

i'd use the 6800xt unless every game I played had DLSS... then again i've gamed a total 2 hours on my 3060ti since picking it up 8 days ago. yay work

[kindred jewel]

I got the 3080 first, and while waiting for the other PC parts, I saw the 6800 available, fell in love with its aesthetics, and grabbed it

I wanted the rtx with liquid cooling, but only got the evga ftw ultra

[ripe ivy]

Eh, kinda falling for consumerism and marketing there bud. Decide which is best for you and send the other back. That's what I advise anyway.

[crystal lark]

It comes down to this: If you want RTX, DLSS, excellent drivers support, and dont mind upgrading to a diff card in 2-3 years go with 3080. If you want more VRAM, so 3-5 years of usage, better performance in 1440p, go with 6800xt

am in the same boat , and debating as well

historically Nvidia does have better driver support, I Dont think anyone would disagree on that

but AMD has been improving as well

[wet rune]

Also, if you live-stream go with the RTX for nvenc encoding. AMD's encoder is god aweful.

[crystal lark]

ya I forgot that part

[ripe ivy]

Eh H265 is what they're using now, I haven't really tested it myself yet

[gritty notch]

amd cards cant encode to save their lives lol

[wet rune]

agreed!

[crystal lark]

most gamers dont need encoders, lets face it

unless they "stream"

[wet rune]

Right.

[crystal lark]

which is a st*pid thing anyway

IMO

[kindred jewel]

Cool thanks for the feedback guys! Really appreciate it!

[crystal lark]

sometimes I lean to the 3080, sometimes for the 6800xt

[clear frigate]

I can agree with that zolder

[crystal lark]

am trying to find some reviews that show ACTUAL VRAM usage, not allocated (like most tools offer), and I have yet to find one

to all those YouTube "expert" reviews are almost irrelevant if I cannot see or know how much a game is using...

if Doom Eternal allocates 9 GB, but uses only 6... I need to know!

or say 7, or 8

This is on my GTX 1080:

and it shows the max allocated, not the actual used (on Doom Eternal, 1440p Nightmare settings)

[tidal flax]

Do you guys know any 1650 super links that are not overpriced

[astral mist]

Hey shut up I need encoders

[icy cove]

if nvidia can't supply enough 30 series cards and scalper bots are such a big problem why can't they just make it in store physical purchase only?

[gritty notch]

because nvidia doesnt care at all

they get money from scalpers and money from consumers

your money isnt any better than a scalper's

[lone pond]

yo im looking for a card i can get like 80-100 fps on medium settings on warzone for like 280-300 are there any recommendations?

cause i dont know where to look

[warped osprey]

is the 2080 ti getting cheaper?

the what

bruh

[dreamy dragon]

cyroVR#2245 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

cyroVR#2245 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

cyroVR#2245 has been kicked

Reason: Too many infractions

[lone pond]

bruh

yes it is

[royal copper]

Hmm

[spark pebble]

Drop tonight potentially or nah

[tender mulch]

Every night, 8 PM EST

[spark pebble]

Last few days been a no show tho

I’m still gonna be ready but I wanted to know what everyone else was thinkin

[warm meteor]

Availability aside, if making an AMD build, with a ryzen 7 5800x would an AMD 5900xt be better to pair with it than an Nvidia 3080?

[tender mulch]

No

The only consideration there should be resolution.

[warm meteor]

Aiming for strong 1440p over 4k

[tender mulch]

3070/3080/6800

If you want new

Oh, for CPU?

5800x is fine

I really hate the new naming scheme

Too similar to GPU's lol

[warm meteor]

Lol legit, let's name everything the same, not confusing at all.

[tender mulch]

Nah, 5800x is just fine

[warm meteor]

That helps a bunch Vintage. So looking at 3080 vs 6800 at this point, depending on budget and availability. I'm in no rush to try and buy one at inflated prices right now.

[tender mulch]

So, streaming?

[warm meteor]

Potentially, just want to keep that as a possibility.

[tender mulch]

nVidia then

NVENC for streaming

Plus DLSS

[warm meteor]

Appreciate the advice! Now it's just waiting for those restocks

[tender mulch]

Yo and me both

I want 5900/3070

So, next year maybe

[warm meteor]

Hey. If we've been able to wait this long right? Lol

[tender mulch]

Oh, I have no issue waiting and denying scalpers 😉

[odd grotto]

🤷🏻‍♂️ After getting Cyberpunk to run rather smoothly on my 2060, I feel no rush to upgrade my card. LOL

[tender mulch]

Eh

I have one, I'm upgrading anyway

1440p Medium settings 60 FPS doesn't cut it

It's probably great in 1080p

[odd grotto]

Yeah

I'm running 1080p

I plan on upgrading

[tender mulch]

perfect, should be great then!

[odd grotto]

But no rush

[tender mulch]

Ye, I'm not in a rush either

[odd grotto]

Just that... CP 2077 makes me wanna upgrade my CPU LOL

[tender mulch]

I'll wait until the stock comes back to normal

[odd grotto]

Yeah

[tender mulch]

My 3700x is more than enough CPU

[odd grotto]

I'm satisfied with what I got now.

[tender mulch]

But if I happen to snag a 5900x I won't complain 😉

[odd grotto]

I'm using an i7 9700K and it's still not good enough to max out the crowd density. LOL

[fallow tartan]

i need help telling witch one of graphics cards

is better

[blissful nest]

Out of which gpus

[pale path]

which of which? @fallow tartan

[fallow tartan]

?

o

um ATI radeon 5870 or sapphire 7970

[tender mulch]

whoa

[pale path]

whoa, 7970... very old question

[tender mulch]

indeed

[fallow tartan]

yes indeed

[pale path]

7970 was what i bought for xmas this time about 10yrs ago or 9?

(sapphire 7950 w/ the 7970 flashable bios)

[fallow tartan]

its my dads computer and these ae the cards he has

[pale path]

7970 is the newer out of the 2

[blissful nest]

I’d say 7970 would be the better bet

[fallow tartan]

ok

[pale path]

for $150 you could get a card infinitely better when you're ready

[fallow tartan]

im thinking about this

[blissful nest]

Why tho

[pale path]

not sure if thats better than a 7970 outside the directx 12.. aim for a 1050 or 60

[fallow tartan]

ok

this?

look at this

[pale path]

https://www.newegg.com/gigabyte-geforce-gtx-1060-3gb-windforce-oc/p/1FT-000A-00154?Description=gigabyte 1060&cm_re=gigabyte_1060-_-9SIADFRABG3996-_-Product

[fallow tartan]

well his computer has this mother board

[lone pond]

nice

also that image resolution...

[pale path]

i have to cook dinner now and cannot see what that is. I'm just suggesting a much cheaper better gpu over that 1050. there are cheaper ones on local used markets if you're okay

[upper mural]

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opinions on the msi 3070 gaming x trio vs suprim?

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Did that gpus price go up last I remember a 1050 ti was 150