graphics-cards

[ripe ivy]

It wasn't too long ago, like they started with the RX 590 I think

[jovial goblet]

The asrock taichis look pretty good

Same perf as other gpus as well

[lone pond]

want to send me the link? 😄

[ripe ivy]

I think the 5700 Taichi looks way better than the 6800s

But that's my opinion so whatever

I like the golden cog motif they have going with that one, goes well with the motherboards

[jovial goblet]

Havent seen the 6800 taichis

[ripe ivy]

https://www.asrock.com/Graphics-Card/AMD/Radeon RX 6800 XT Taichi X 16G OC/index.asp

[jovial goblet]

The all black and the blue middle is nice

I quite like it but its nothing compared to the gold 5700 xt

[ripe ivy]

It's ARGB, it's similar to what they usually do but yeah it's not as interesting as what they did before

[rustic pulsar]

How much better is a RTX 2060 super then an RTX 2060

[ripe ivy]

Um, probably like 10 - 15% faster on average, and it has a wider memory bus and 2gb more Vram

I'm estimating for the speed improvement mind you

[rustic pulsar]

Okay, and what about the regular 2060 6gb vs 8gb

[ripe ivy]

There's a 2060 with 8gb?

[static rock]

super is 8gb instead of 6gb

[ripe ivy]

I know the Super has 8

But he's saying there's a regular 2060 with 8

[static rock]

no, they were just referring to the regular 2060

then vs the 8gb one, which is super

[ripe ivy]

Well I answered that question with my first statement then

[rustic pulsar]

Okay, thanls for the help

Im new to the whole pc thing

What do yall think of this one

https://www.newegg.com/abs-computer-technologies-ali416/p/N82E16883102994?Item=N82E16883102994&quicklink=true

[static rock]

no

ketchup and mustard cables

[humble hemlock]

just picked a 6800 by accident thinking it was XT... w.e idc at this point

[steel smelt]

anyone get one of those MSI 5600's that are on sale foe $259.99? They were in stock then out of stock. Flashbacks to trying to get a 3070 lol\

[keen drum]

i found a 2080ti ROG strix OC for 472 us

[humble hemlock]

thats a deal

[oblique aspen]

SKEET

[rustic pulsar]

If my pc supports 2060, it will also support the 30 series right?

[eternal locust]

Lol yes what's your power supply and motherboard tho out of curiosity

[stiff delta]

lmao i use a 500w

[eternal cobalt]

anyone else notice all the listings for rx 6000 cards are gone from newegg?

[eternal locust]

I wonder why

[eternal cobalt]

maybe they are prepping for more stock or reworking the links to prevent bots?

[spice prawn]

@eternal locust because AIB cards launch shortly

[eternal cobalt]

makes sense

[eternal locust]

Oooh 👀

[hushed cliff]

anyone know when we are getting 6800's back out or NVDIA stuff? i literally just need a card to finish this build and are contemplating going last gen :/

[wild quest]

What have I done?

[eternal locust]

Lmao wtf

[ripe ivy]

AIB cards launch on the 25th, look out for Sapphire, Powercolor and XFX

[clear frigate]

are those the better options for amd cards?

[hushed cliff]

i love you @ripe ivy

you think its gonna be all bots again?

a second paper launch lol?

[ripe ivy]

Well better is kind of subjective in this case, but this is where the rest of the silicon is actually launching AMD primarily allocated their chips to their primary partners

The three I mentioned actually

[clear frigate]

those those are primaries gotcha

[spice prawn]

@wild quest bought something that has no display out iirc

[clear frigate]

i was told that sapphire nitro is typically something to look at on the amd side and never new why tyty @ripe ivy

[ripe ivy]

Nitro is their premium model, Pulse is their entry level. Great quality either way

[clear frigate]

still good to know why sapphire was recommended by that friend

since i never really heard of them before looking into amd

[ripe ivy]

Sapphire is essentially like the EVGA for Radeon

[spice prawn]

they are the manufacturer of the "reference" cards on the amd side (or have been at least)

[ripe ivy]

They make the reference PCBs I believe

[hushed cliff]

do we know what time those cards are out on the 25th @ripe ivy

[ripe ivy]

I don't know anyway, I've just heard 25th

[spice prawn]

most likely same as the reference card launch

[ripe ivy]

All these launches have been 9am eastern so probably then

I believe that's 2pm GMT?

[marble moth]

Anyone know how i could pick up a 3080 for at most 150ish over msrp? Id prefer to pay msrp but cant find any

[lone pond]

after christmas the market should die down a little

[marble moth]

No cap?

[lone pond]

most of the time they are over 400+ over msrp

not sure when stocks will come in and how often but hype should die down by then, at most by april

[winter dagger]

Yeah

[spice prawn]

have patience

[winter dagger]

Stocks will probably be flowing by next summer

[marble moth]

Ik... really tired of the scalpers

[lone pond]

i was really lucky to pick up a 3070 on launch day but trying to get a 3090

[winter dagger]

Wow

3070 still a very capable card

[marble moth]

I plan on selling my 1070ti to my friend for about $150

But i need to get a 3080 before i get rid of my 1070ti so me getting held up is also him getting held up lol

[winter dagger]

Why do you need a 3080 if you have a 3070?

[marble moth]

Me?

[winter dagger]

Yeah

[stiff delta]

1070

[winter dagger]

Oh wait

Lmao

Wrong person

@marble moth Ooo[ps

[marble moth]

All good lol

[modern rampart]

Why dont u get ur friend to help find u one

And give him a discount if he does

[lone pond]

So all the benchmarks im seeing on YT show the 6800xt performing just a tad bit better than the 3080, but most ppl are saying the 3080 is a better card...they just factoring in possible driver issues? Or is there something else? Im specifically looking at 1440 144

[sly blade]

anyone know if coolermaster elv8 is compatible with asus x570 tuf gaming mobo?

any help appreciated

[steel smelt]

the 3080 beats the 6800xt in everything once you turn on raytracing, DLSS.

[winter dagger]

YEP

3080 stronk

[lone pond]

Thought dlss was just for 4k? Upscaling to 4k right? But yeah true with the raytracing

[winter dagger]

Yeah

But raytracing

It's garbage on Radeon

only 15 fps

Because it's sooo new

[burnt parcel]

on mc that is

[winter dagger]

On a lot of games

exactlly

its their first year

This is Nvidias second

[burnt parcel]

if you dont care about ray tracing or 4k youre good with a 6800xt tho

[winter dagger]

Eh

[winter dagger]

Thats not true

[burnt parcel]

cause of streaming

[winter dagger]

Many applications are optimized for nvidia

So overall you are better off spending what? 30 more dollars and get the 3080

[burnt parcel]

50 or more to be exact

but yeah id rather get the 3080

almost got a zotac one today but the site kept crashing

it was balls

[winter dagger]

@sterile parcel ZOTAC is ok

[burnt parcel]

if i can get it

imma get it

it isss what it issss

[winter dagger]

LMAO

Yes

LMAO

I am dying

[burnt parcel]

their website is garb tho

[spare relic]

zotac is zotac

[burnt parcel]

was broken for so long

[spare relic]

basically msi but zotac

and also evga but it's zotac

[burnt parcel]

waiting is lame

need now

[winter dagger]

@sterile parcel Tru tru

But ZOTAC is still ok

[ripe ivy]

It's not like Asus and MSI has a track record of the best GPUs on every front

[burnt parcel]

new pc build is just sitting in my corner with no gpu

its so sad

[lone pond]

Im in the same boat, even bought a new desk

[burnt parcel]

same

i just want one before christmas

[ripe ivy]

I can't speak for how they handle Nvidia GPUs, but with Radeon they drop the ball constantly

MSI and Asus both didn't know how the hell to cool memory apparently, the Mech OC, and the TUF models were plagued with 105C memory chips that's a fun time

[burnt parcel]

should i just get a 6800xt and get a 3080 ti later?

[ripe ivy]

Then with the Strix model, they don't know what mounting pressure is apparently

It's a foreign concept, they botched that and gaslit AMD like if it was their fault

But anyway, Zotac's probably fine just buy a higher end model if it's available

[frozen seal]

I just don’t like their mini cards

Zotac mini bad

[ripe ivy]

A lot of those small formfactor coolers are pretty bad

[burnt parcel]

you guys think any 3080s will come out tomorrow to throw off amd?

[ripe ivy]

Possibly

[burnt parcel]

the only 3080s today were zotac

[ripe ivy]

I've heard they've only been restocking 3070s and 3090s largely

[burnt parcel]

yes

so many of them

i had so many chances to get a 3070 and 3090

but i cant afford 3090, and i dont want 3070

[frozen seal]

I was placed 8th in queue for a gigabyte eagle 3070 2 weeeks ago, still no email

Hopefully more come in soon

[burnt parcel]

this made me so angry

i had the order processing

but the site kept crashing until it was out of stock

quit with the froge

no froge

[ripe ivy]

[burnt parcel]

im just gonna go for whatever card i can get i guess

whether it be 3080 for 6800xt

im gaming at 1080p so i think ill be fine with 6800xt

i would like raytracing tho

and the streaming features

[merry radish]

I have about 500-550 dollars to spend what should I get I plan ON mostly gaming and streaming

[ripe ivy]

Honestly for 1080p I don't think it's necessary to get a card that expensive

[merry radish]

not really anything else

[merry radish]

1440p

[frozen seal]

Yikes, 550 to stream

[ripe ivy]

I wasn't responding to you, but I get ya

[merry radish]

Oh sorry

[frozen seal]

That’s tight

[ripe ivy]

I think they mean just on the graphics card?

[merry radish]

Yes

[ripe ivy]

Not the entire system, at least I hope not

[merry radish]

just the gpu

[frozen seal]

Ok ok good lmao

[merry radish]

its gonna be paired with a 3600

[ripe ivy]

Yeah 500 bucks for an entire system to stream from, uh get a console

[frozen seal]

Sounds like 3070

[merry radish]

yessir

[ripe ivy]

If you can somehow manage it, the 3070 fits the bill then

[merry radish]

I cant

[frozen seal]

Try to get the TUFmaybe

[ripe ivy]

Everyone and their mother wants one though

[merry radish]

yEAH

[frozen seal]

There isn’t really any other option

[merry radish]

5700xt

?

[frozen seal]

No

[merry radish]

My freind said "card bad"

[frozen seal]

Compared to a 3070?

Braeh

Yes

Well

[hollow zephyr]

?

[frozen seal]

Good

[hollow zephyr]

no

[ripe ivy]

I mean it's not bad

[hollow zephyr]

good

[frozen seal]

Before

[hollow zephyr]

before 30 series

[frozen seal]

But compared to a 3070

[hollow zephyr]

but good card

[burnt parcel]

actually amd raytracing at 1080p doesnt look bad?

anyone know anything about that

[merry radish]

"raytracing"

[burnt parcel]

shut

[ripe ivy]

No I don't care about it tbh

[frozen seal]

Yea, but they don’t have dlss

[burnt parcel]

idc about dlss

its 1080p

[frozen seal]

And I find it really dumb when reviewers don’t use dlss for 4K benchmarks because it’s “not fair”

Like, it’s a Feature of that card, it’s fukin fair

[merry radish]

But really what should I get besides a 3070, I plan on buying it in a week or 2

not 5 years

[frozen seal]

What, you’re just gonna remove a fan from the cooler on one card because the other one only has 2? Like no

It’s fair

[ripe ivy]

It won't be a 5 year wait

[frozen seal]

Also, there isn’t really any other option

You could get a 6800 but not worth at all

Also, same stock issues

[merry radish]

hmmm

[jovial goblet]

if only asus would do the taichi series on nvidia cards

[ripe ivy]

Stock is tight this holiday season, things won't lighten up until next quarter probably

Asrock*

[jovial goblet]

ik

[merry radish]

coca cola espuma

[jovial goblet]

its still asus

[ripe ivy]

Is it?

[jovial goblet]

oh god

[frozen seal]

Is asrock owned by Asus?

[ripe ivy]

All I can find is they "spun off" from Asus

[frozen seal]

Yea, I don’t think they’re owned by them tho

[ripe ivy]

In 2002, I'm not sure if that qualifies as being part of them

[jovial goblet]

basically, they came from asus

[frozen seal]

But the Taichi wasn’t made in 2002...

So how is it Asus...

[ripe ivy]

It's their parent company

[frozen seal]

Sure, but 18 years ago

[ripe ivy]

I'm not sure it's right to credit Asus for the products Asrock make though

Even if that's still the case, just hypothetically cause i'm not entirely sure

[frozen seal]

I feel like 18 years is plenty enough to develop an identity of their own

[merry radish]

ok

[ripe ivy]

Anyway they only make Radeon GPUs don't they?

[frozen seal]

I didn’t even know they made GPU’s

[ripe ivy]

Oh so I found here that they were subsidiary to Asus up until 2010

[frozen seal]

And also, I think the initial point was that they wish they made NVIDIA cards

Ahhh ok

[ripe ivy]

That's right

I mean the Taichi card is pretty nice, the uh 5700XT is pretty cool. Has that gold motif with the cogs

[tall socket]

Could someone help me I have a issue with my gpu

[eternal locust]

What's up with it @tall socket

[tall socket]

@eternal locust could you come into a general vc so I could explain

Hard to type as I can keep my hands still lol

[eternal locust]

Uhhh I can't really vc rn not tryna wake my 4 month old

[tall socket]

Ok pal my gpu keeps sending power supply into protection

[lone pond]

is the evga 2060 sc ultra a good gpu?

[eternal locust]

@tall socket wait so it keeps causing it to shut off?

[tall socket]

Yep it’s only just started doing it

[eternal locust]

You have a smart fan option on it?

[tall socket]

Not sure as amd drivers are ass and crash

[eternal locust]

On the psu I mean

[tall socket]

No

[eternal locust]

What card is it?

[tall socket]

R9 390x

[eternal locust]

It occurs when the card is under load?

[tall socket]

No load on it and still crashes

[ripe ivy]

So how do you know this is a graphics card issue, and not a power supply issue?

[eternal locust]

That whack have you been able to trouble shoot without that card or with a different one? To see if it is def the gpu and maybe not the psu

[tall socket]

I’m using a quadro right now and hasn’t crashed at all

[cursive canopy]

Curious if anyone knows any new information about those 3060ti cards that seemed to have leaked some information

[ripe ivy]

So what do you think, drivers or is it merely a dying card? Not much can be done if it's the latter

[tall socket]

Not sure as my mate who had it before had no problems at all with it

[ripe ivy]

How long have you had it?

[tall socket]

3 days

[cursive canopy]

when the graphics card is going, sometimes get weird graphical issues, symbols, not looking right

oh 3 days??? if having issues.. i'd return and get new one

[tall socket]

Everything is normal

[ripe ivy]

Um and you're using a quadro now, did you ddu the drivers?

[tall socket]

Yep

[ripe ivy]

Then I dunno I guess you got unlucky

[cursive canopy]

what is the rest of the system??

[tall socket]

Any chance you could come in vc so I can explain more of what’s happend

There’s a lot more to the system having issues but I have troubles typing as I can keep my hands still

[agile bronze]

Hey @tall socket this is off topic, but is your profile picture James May?

[tall socket]

Yea lol

[agile bronze]

Ayy nice I thought it was but couldn't tell 100%

[tall socket]

Lol

Meddy could you help at all

[spice prawn]

that does not really tell you anything

unless it has the same PSU demand as the radeon card

[tall socket]

@spice prawn seems like it was bad drivers as it now back up working doing stress test right now

[spice prawn]

best of luck :)

[tall socket]

Thanks pal

@spice prawn I will take that back

Just shut off

@spice prawn can you help at all?

[spice prawn]

well, i cant magic up a new psu for you :)

[tall socket]

Could you go into vc so I can explain?

[spice prawn]

give me 2 minutes, and i can join.

[tall socket]

Thanks

@spice prawn I’m in general 2 just to let you know 😀

[paper depot]

So how about them gpus

[shut rampart]

Literally wtf is going on with gpus rn

[dreamy dragon]

DESTROYER55k#1557 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

[bright minnow]

Should I buy one of the new 3070 with overclocked from factory or a non-oc version?

Which whould be best

the price difference is not much

[livid summit]

2060 or 5700xt

[hollow zephyr]

5700xt

[viral elbow]

That’s one expensive spare

[hollow zephyr]

for the moment lmao

[lone pond]

i dunno eh feel like all these sites lie

I got a vega 64 and a 2080 super.. says the super is supposed to smack harder

yet i get more frames with the vega and it runs smoother and looks better

[lone pond]

5600xt with 3 3200g lmao

[steel smelt]

Anyone know which 2060 has the best cooling?

[winter dagger]

@steel smelt Maybe consider a Gigabyte Windforce 2060?

Or the Gaming OC?

[lone pond]

Msi Gaming X one has good cooling but they are inflated in price right now

Also 2060 is poop just get a 5600XT

Unless you really care about RT

[cold spire]

what is better 1050 ti or a 1650 super OC

[wild quest]

1650. hands down

[eager timber]

1650 super oc is better. dont 1660s have a new process?

[dusk oasis]

someone knows when a new gen gpu amd or nvidia will be available ?? like not out of stock

[jovial goblet]

at weird random times, no one can predict when it comes in stock

[ripe ivy]

No one truly knows, but if I had to take a educated guess it might be next quarter

So anywhere from January to April

[teal cairn]

Is there anywhere to actually get a 3070?

[safe current]

Amazon has them for ~1k but if u want msrp no where

[teal cairn]

Dang I tried to get one on release also...

I don’t know what to upgrade my gpu to

[safe current]

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B08L8KC1J7?tag=nisdis-20&linkCode=ogi&th=1&psc=1

[teal cairn]

Bc I can’t even buy a better one

[safe current]

Yea most of us r in the same boat

I’m running a 970 in my 3900x build

[teal cairn]

I have a 2060 with a i7 7900k

[safe current]

Cause I can’t get one

[teal cairn]

Dang

Would it be worth it for u to get a 2060 super?

Prob not still

[dusk hedge]

i have a radeon rx 580

[eager timber]

not yet prolly

[safe current]

It would be a good jump but it’s not worth the cost

[teal cairn]

Yea

If u upgrade I would go all in also with a cpu like that

[safe current]

I’ve got my eye on the evga water block series when they come in if they come in

[teal cairn]

I don’t need to upgrade yet anyway it does what I want but it would run so much smoother if I had a 3070

[marble swift]

Can anyone recommend a gpu for my new 3440x1440 display? It supports freesync up to 144hz but I definitely don't need it maxed out there. I play dumb games like just cause 4 but I have the attention span of a goldfish so that could change at any moment

[daring cradle]

1080 Ti or higher

Ongokg lmfao

Cant type today

@marble swift i would recommend a used 2070 super or higher

[marble swift]

@daring cradle I'm not in a hurry so I'm currently planning to get either a 6800XT (for future proofing) or a 3060Ti when it comenout

Hello @astral nexus

Is that over-overkill or vaguely justifiable

[eager timber]

oo mr beast

new to discord with no pfp

ok donate 1m to me

or 2 bobux

[marble swift]

@eager timber he said tomorrow genius

@daring cradle did fake mr beast scare you away? :(

[lone pond]

So any word about the AIB 6800 cards? Midnight release or 9am kinds thing as the other ones?

[jovial goblet]

All new amd and nvidia cards are dropping at random times, no news on when stock normalizes

[daring cradle]

Future proofing doesnt exist

[marble swift]

It surely does. I've been running a GTX 770 for 6 years with no problems until now

[daring cradle]

Yeah but the 6800XT has 16GB of vram.. what games years from now sill be designed to utilize all of it?

Future proofing is stupid especially when people believe in it

If youre just gaming whats the point its just overkill

[marble swift]

I don't need 25 years... An extra few hundred bucks to stave off an upgrade every other year seems worth it?

[daring cradle]

Well hf waiting a long time until games utilize 16GB of memory

[heavy creek]

anyone know the best gpu for 200$

[marble swift]

All right so 6800XT is out. Have you seen enough of the 3060Ti to weigh in on that option?

[daring cradle]

200 USD could get you a used 1080

[heavy creek]

brand new

[daring cradle]

3060 ti idk

Ive seen some leaks that were photoshopped

[heavy creek]

its never exist cuz my dad tells me that he is owner of nvidia

jk

[marble swift]

Well idk what it looks like... Priced at $400 could be pretty good value I think

[daring cradle]

My dad owns NCIX bro jo

It is

Faster than a 2080 super at $400

[heavy creek]

wat ut us

[daring cradle]

?

[marble swift]

Probably wouldn't be able to get ahold of one until mid next year anyway...

[daring cradle]

Products are coming out too fast

Its like every 2 years what you have become outdated to most people

[marble swift]

@heavy creek sorry that wasn't meant as an answer for you... I don't know what I'm talking about either

[dreamy dragon]

Trena Vidorra#4452 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

[daring cradle]

Lmfao

[marble swift]

@daring cradle that may be true but I don't need/can't afford to be cutting edge all the time. If rather be cutting edge now and not later than always be barely scraping along...

Although the cheaper gpu does free up some budget for other things

[daring cradle]

Yea

Thing is in CAD its almost impossible to get good deals on computer hardwar

[marble swift]

For reference I am planning this build to have a 5900X

[daring cradle]

Dayum

[marble swift]

In the long run I would like to try out some experimental cooling things I've been thinking about but that's for later on.

[daring cradle]

Ah alr

[marble swift]

So yeah idk really

[daring cradle]

Im stuck in school so i cant build a pc if i wanted

[autumn pike]

Ok, need some guidance. My Radeon 5700 is basically dying and keeps black screening on me. I know it's the GPU. I want to get a replacement. Should I get a NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2070 Super or a 2080. Thoughts?

[marble swift]

@autumn pike based on my limited research, either would be an upgrade

I'd say the 2070S if you're set on one of those

[autumn pike]

Thanks appreciate it

[lone pond]

3060ti in a couple weeks?

[ripe ivy]

Since you say it's blackscreening, the card likely isn't dying. It just might be some kind of driver issue or conflict. If you haven't already try using DDU to wipe driver files and reinstall to the latest drivers. It's at least worth a try, if it doesn't work it is what it is.

[marble swift]

@lone pond Dec 8 I believe

Although we'll see how many months after that it will take to actually be able to buy it

[autumn pike]

Thanks, I haven't tried that, but I'll give it a go.

[ripe ivy]

Out of curiosity is it a reference model?

Initial launch 5700/XT cards did have some kind of underlying hardware issue to a certain extent, at least from what I understand. Something to do with the display ports I think?

[autumn pike]

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07TLZXWYB/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o04_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1 this is what i bought

[lone pond]

3060ti is December 2nd I think

Around $400 give or take

[topaz furnace]

Aib 6800xt come out tommorow?

[ripe ivy]

Yeah that's a reference model

[sly blade]

Hey new to pc gaming and am upgrading from a 2070 to 3080 do I need to delete old GPU drivers? Or can I just swap and than update since they are both Nvidia cards?

[ripe ivy]

I think it's possible for black screens to happen because of high temperatures too, check the junction temps and especially the memory temps

[autumn pike]

I'll check those as well. I know the HDMI is fairly warm when I reach for it and the black screen is fixed after I remove the HDMI and plug it back in. Which I thought was odd.

[ripe ivy]

Hmm, maybe try one of the display ports if possible see if it results in the same thing

It would be nice if you could leverage this issue on MSI to replace it with one of their custom models, but I don't think that's an option

[autumn pike]

Begs to MSI due to faulty hardware

MSI: Nah.... but you can buy this new model card for X$

[ripe ivy]

Well their Mech model probably isn't much better

[autumn pike]

I may get back to a NVIDIA card. It's the first Radeon gpu I have gotten and it's been a pain.

[ripe ivy]

Actually maybe it's fine, it was the MechOC on the 5700XT that's thermally bad

[autumn pike]

So Hardware on mine is prob ok, just it is a dumpster fire?

😄

[ripe ivy]

The only other thing I can think of that could help, at least thermal wise if that is the issue is the washer mod. It involves placing washers under the bracket where the GPU die is on each screw point

Oh and replacing the thermal pad with thermal paste

I think it was mostly a problem with the XT though

Since that was pushing voltages for it's higher clock speeds

So you most likely wouldn't need to go that far

[topaz furnace]

Tommorow do the partners aib models for the 6800xt come out?

[ripe ivy]

Yes

[topaz furnace]

Epic, where?

Newegg for sure

But is super hard to get on newegg

[ripe ivy]

Sure, look everywhere for the best chance

[topaz furnace]

Last launch gone in seconds on newegg

[ripe ivy]

I only saw a 404 page on Newegg

[topaz furnace]

I think it gives you a 404 page for refreshing too much

[sick phoenix]

New Egg, Microcenter, maybe BB

[ripe ivy]

Well no when I finally saw the banner on the front page

[topaz furnace]

Gone

Poof

Like magic

[ripe ivy]

Um I went in there and clicked to be taken to the product options

And it always showed a 404

[topaz furnace]

Ohh

Website crashed

I think they recommend that you use their app on mobile

[ripe ivy]

That's lame, but alright

[topaz furnace]

Idk which aib to try and get tho bc for me, its either a 3080 or 6800xt (whichever goes in stock first) but I really like the evga aibs but they aren't partners for amd gpus

[ripe ivy]

Sapphire for Radeon

Well Sapphire, Powercolor and XFX

Those are the three to look for, they will have the most

They're the primary Radeon partners

[topaz furnace]

I never thought those guys were actually good lol

Idk why

[ripe ivy]

Sapphire is literally the EVGA equivalent

They also make the reference PCBs

If they made motherboards I would probably buy them every time

[topaz furnace]

I was thinking asus or msi but I think some people said that they just slap on a design that was used for 3000 series

[ripe ivy]

Not only will they not have as much

But historically they've been pretty lazy with Radeon cards

[topaz furnace]

Lol

[ripe ivy]

I mean I dunno, if they can't make a competent product

It's not a good look, regardless of profit margin

They probably have better profit margin if anything

[wild quest]

This card blows

[ripe ivy]

AMD probably sells them chips and boards for less money than Nvidia

There's no reason to drop the ball on a proper product

You'll just lose more money then

[wild quest]

It broken i think

[ripe ivy]

That's wasted effort

Which there is no effort

[wild quest]

It has articfacts out the wazooo

[ripe ivy]

They couldn't cool memory, or actually make a cooler fit and have proper mounting pressure. It's embarrassing and I'm not surprised they're getting shafted with low supply

[wild quest]

And when I try to play forza horizon 4 with it it says it doesn't support DX12

Which is dumb

Because the 1060 definetley does

[daring cradle]

Gimmie the 1080 ;)

[ripe ivy]

That's a 1060

[wild quest]

^

[daring cradle]

Oh wait what

[wild quest]

Its an OEM 1060 6gb

[daring cradle]

Read it wrong mb lmfao

[topaz furnace]

Ok so, amd gpus are better out of the box than Nvidia, but with NV once you turn on dlss and ray tracing they are better even with amd using smart access mem and rage mode. But yet again the amd gpu is $50 less

[ripe ivy]

I haven't seen overclocked numbers yet

[wild quest]

Also AMD cards age pretty well

From what I hear

[ripe ivy]

Um it's kinda of like the drivers have a slow start, but they pick up and overtake in performance after some time

[wild quest]

^ exactly

[ripe ivy]

You're kinda seeing that with the 5700XT, where in new titles it's already kind of matching the 2080S in some cases

[topaz furnace]

Woah

[wild quest]

^

[topaz furnace]

Is

[crimson dagger]

When do the new gpus go in stock? Like midnight or?

[ripe ivy]

No not midnight

[topaz furnace]

9am est I think

[ripe ivy]

9AM Eastern I think that's 2pm UTC

[crimson dagger]

Aiight

Well good luck to all of us tryna get one 😂

[topaz furnace]

Gonna be hard

Is best buy gonna sell?

[ripe ivy]

I ordered a new monitor, and I'm probably just gonna get a 5700XT whenever it drops to $300

[topaz furnace]

Oh

I think ima have newegg best buy and b&h open tmr

Probably not gonna get one

But idk about xfx sapphire and Powercolor. Never really saw if their products were good

Just thought they were bad tbh idk why

[ripe ivy]

Have you seen Powercolor's Red Devil cards?

[topaz furnace]

No

I think there is a lot of hype for them

[ripe ivy]

It's a big boi

[topaz furnace]

Yea

But idk if I wanna trust xfx, power color, and sapphire

[ripe ivy]

XFX has kind of been hit or miss admittedly

[topaz furnace]

Never really seen reviews about them

Are they good?

[ripe ivy]

Sapphire is the GOAT though

Like I said they're basically the EVGA equivalent

[topaz furnace]

Bc the main aib partners that I have looked at are mainly for NV. Evga, msi, asus, gigabyte, pny, etc

Never really seen or heard reviews of how good xfx, powercolor, or sapphire are

Also how is sapphire evga equivalent?

[ripe ivy]

So they share some partners obviously, like MSI, Asus and Gigabyte. I want to say Nvidia has more partners that just make cards for them

Like Zotac, PNY, Colorful

[topaz furnace]

Oh

[ripe ivy]

Though no one talks about those guys

[topaz furnace]

Lol yea

[ripe ivy]

Oh Pallit

[topaz furnace]

How is sapphire pretty much the equivalent to evh tho?

Evga*

[ripe ivy]

That's another one, I don't think you see them in NA though

They're Radeon's most trusted partner and exclusive to them

[topaz furnace]

Ohh

So who is NV most trusted partner?

[ripe ivy]

They've made graphics cards for Radeon for over a decade I think

Yeah I would say that's EVGA

[topaz furnace]

Ohh I see

[ripe ivy]

They get the most silicon from Nvidia

The only other one that's exclusive to Radeon is uh AsRock

They recently started making cards like a couple years ago

[marble swift]

Asrock makes cards?

TIL

I have an asrock motherboard that I'm not 100% impressed with

[topaz furnace]

What does silicon do again?

[ripe ivy]

Well it's kind of what the chips are comprised of mostly

[topaz furnace]

Made of?

[ripe ivy]

When I say silicon I'm referring to the chips they make

The GPU itself

[topaz furnace]

Oh

There are the two im gonna try to get tomorrow

Then

Based on what you told me bc I don't have much info on the main amd radeon partners

[ripe ivy]

The XFX one looks nice, but to me it seems like style over performance

[topaz furnace]

Oo

[ripe ivy]

The glaring issue is that side part blocking the fins 👀

Radeon VII all over again

[topaz furnace]

Doesn't the 6800xt have a higher clock speed than the 3080?

[ripe ivy]

Well in general they seem to have much higher clockspeeds overall

I think the red devil is rumored to hit a stable 2.65Ghz

[topaz furnace]

Oh

[ripe ivy]

I don't know if the performance will scale, but if it's even remotely close it has potential to blow raster performance out of the water

[topaz furnace]

How much of you think these main aib models will cost?

Do*

[ripe ivy]

I can't say for certain we'll know tomorrow

[topaz furnace]

Oo

[ripe ivy]

Allegedly, the XFX one there they said it might be $750

I'm like woah dude

[topaz furnace]

A whole $100??

Hell nah

[ripe ivy]

Yeah I don't know

They gave it to this one reviewer and that's what he said

[rustic pulsar]

How good is a 2060 compared to a 1060?

[topaz furnace]

Even some NV patterns don't do that much of a price lift

[ripe ivy]

It's a decent jump

[topaz furnace]

Partners*

[ripe ivy]

Like 40 - 50% more performance

[topaz furnace]

how about from a 1060 to a 3080 or 6800xt?

[rustic pulsar]

Like will I have to stop worrying about if my computer can run a game assuuming I have a desent proccessor

[ripe ivy]

Actually I take that back it might be closer to 35% or something

I mean a 1060 will run most things today fine at 1080p

[topaz furnace]

Yah ik

[ripe ivy]

It won't forever of course

[topaz furnace]

I'm running on one

[ripe ivy]

But right now, that's fine for 1080p

[topaz furnace]

A crappy asus Phoenix 3g 1060

[ripe ivy]

Oh a 1060 3gb

[topaz furnace]

Yea garb

[ripe ivy]

You know that's actually not even the same card as the 6gb one

[topaz furnace]

What's the difference?

[ripe ivy]

They took some shaders off the top

So it's technically still slower even when there isn't a Vram bottleneck

[topaz furnace]

How do bottlenecks work idk exactly how

A whats vram

[ripe ivy]

Well it's when you're constrained on a certain resource, like it's holding back performance overall

And Vram is the memory that the graphics card has access to in order to render textures primarly, but also shadows and the like

It's the reason why with your card you need to take textures down the medium to have a playable experience

[topaz furnace]

Ohh

[ripe ivy]

Cause if you bring textures up the card will run out of Vram

Then it starts chugging along using the regular System Ram

[topaz furnace]

So like with a 3600x and a 3090 the 3600x is not allowing the 3090 to reach best performance?

[ripe ivy]

Which is much slower

Well that's a different thing entirely

But it's a similar principle

[topaz furnace]

O

[ripe ivy]

CPU bottlenecks are only really a big concern at 1080p

[muted isle]

Usually at higher resolutions its always a gpu botteneck

Bottleneck*

[topaz furnace]

What causes a bottleneck tho?

[ripe ivy]

Basically the limiting factor in overall performance

[topaz furnace]

So ur crappy cpu with a good gpu or video versa?

Vice*

[ripe ivy]

Those are extreme conditions

[muted isle]

A bottleneck will always happen

[ripe ivy]

There will always be some kind of bottleneck, but the ideal bottleneck is a gpu bottleneck

[muted isle]

Otherwise performance would be infinite

However at lower resolutions what usually happens is a CPU bottleneck, While at higher resolutions, a GPU bottleneck

[topaz furnace]

Oh

So at higher resolutions if the gpu can't handle it, its bringing down the cpu performance?

[muted isle]

So If you have a crappy CPU for 1080p you might experience a botteneck early on even If you have a good GPU

[muted isle]

If the CPU cores which are being used could go faster, then yes, the GPU is holding them back

But its always better to have a GPU botteneck rather than a CPU one

[topaz furnace]

Oh

[topaz furnace]

Any news on 3080 stock

I know evga by far has re stocked the most

[floral relic]

1440p gaming any ideals

[fervent obsidian]

3070

[daring cradle]

3070 ye

[lavish oasis]

I know it’s been posted a lot prob but I honestly don’t know which way to go I’m leaning towards 3080 but honestly just go back and forth on that or 6800xt if I just ignore fact on me being able to get both

[crude dust]

One for me and one for the wife

[wild quest]

aaaaaaaaaa

lucky

[obsidian plaza]

anyone know ehere i can get a 1660 super not for 500$? Cant seem to find one. if there isnt a place, what should i get?

[crimson dagger]

I got a ryzen 7 2700x 8-core would that impede the performance of a 6800?

[warped osprey]

amazon

msi ventus 1660 super is pretty cheap

[obsidian plaza]

is it still the same performance?

[warped osprey]

yep

i had obe

[obsidian plaza]

alright thanks

[warped osprey]

one

i think it might perform better than an FE 1660 super

tho i recommend going for the rx 5600 xt

[bitter tartan]

1660 super is literally not in stock rn

cuz everyone buying them

[warped osprey]

its fine for me in Canada

[bitter tartan]

😦

i wished i lived in canada

[warped osprey]

don't, the prices here are jack shite

[bitter tartan]

yea ik i was just jokin

[warped osprey]

good

[bitter tartan]

but like

[obsidian plaza]

@warped osprey idk bro the msi ventus is like $400

[warped osprey]

and thats 100 less than a 500 1660 super

thats a pretty good deal imo

[obsidian plaza]

yea but the normal 1660 super is 250 but the 500 one is just a resale for 2x the price

[warped osprey]

i would get an rx 5600 xt tbh

for me they're like 50 dollars more

its way more worth your money

it can kinda compare to a 1080 or 1080ti

[static rock]

1080ti no

1080? perhaps

[warped osprey]

i thought as much

still a great price to performance gpu tho

the sapphire pulse rx 5600 xt is currently the most popular i think

[toxic topaz]

Can i be your wife

@crude dust

[crude dust]

Lol no

[warped osprey]

[obsidian plaza]

https://www.gamestop.com/video-games/pc/accessories/video-and-sound-cards/products/tuf-gaming-geforce-gtx-1660-super-overclocked-6gb-edition-gaming-graphics-card/11104580.html this a good cpu?

[toxic topaz]

thats a gpu*

[ripe ivy]

Wow I didn't know Gamestop sold video cards

That's literally the only one too

[dreamy dragon]

AceOfSpades#5851 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

[wild quest]

mood.

[sullen vector]

What Asus brand is that? Rog, tuf, or prime?

[crude dust]

Says ko win on it idk lol

[buoyant stone]

Is a 3080 with it for 1080p 144hz gaming?

[ripe ivy]

No a 3080 is not worth it for high refresh 1080p gaming

[terse bloom]

https://www.nowinstock.net/getd53080
Keep trying to hit add to cart, but saying fail to add or cart is empty.. I'm giving up

[clear frigate]

The non reference amd 6000 series come out tomorrow right?

[ripe ivy]

It's forte is 4k, and that's what it's best at. 1440p seems like a decent secondary, 1080p honestly you're fine with like 2060 - 2060 Super level performance I would say. And in a couple months we'll have even faster 60 class cards and that will be the best options

[terse bloom]

Well, it's over, and got replaced with a scalper price/seller now

[ripe ivy]

And yes, Custom AIB cards are launching tomorrow for the 6800 cards

Look out for Sapphire, Powercolor and XFX as they will have the most available

[clear frigate]

Time the same

[ripe ivy]

Not sure

[clear frigate]

Gotcha

[ripe ivy]

Possibly

[clear frigate]

I guess I'll go look and see if there are pics of the cards for those brands

[ripe ivy]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/500101029157797899/780834379832361000/20201124_093524.jpg

That's the powercolor red devil

[terse bloom]

Anyway, I gotta agree with everyone else. 3080 is more for 1440p or 4k. If you're doing 1080p only, you're better off with a 3070 if you want something new. Otherwise, I'd go with a 20series or 1080.

[clear frigate]

@ripe ivy anything for sapphire

[ripe ivy]

Eh even 3070 is kind of a stretch, I would wait for a 60 class card personally

[ripe ivy]

3070 is a prime sweetspot for 1440p, it looks like it will be for a while

[clear frigate]

Oh might go for this looks clean and fits my color scheme of black and grey

[ripe ivy]

It has a silver backplate I think

[terse bloom]

I've never used an AMD card before, so I don't know anything about them or how well they perform. That's why I said 3070 if they want "new". But I suppose a 3060 would be better if it comes out anytime soon.

[clear frigate]

It so

Do*

[ripe ivy]

The Pulse, their more entry tier cooler has a mostly black color scheme going

Some red accents here and there though

[clear frigate]

I'm wanna avoid the red cuz my case has yellow on it

And not a fan of the color mix

[fluid star]

Do you guys now when partner edition Will be realesed after 6900xt Come up

[ripe ivy]

that's the backplate anyway

No idea about AIB 6900s

Though allegedly they're just going to be called 6900 no idea what it means though

[clear frigate]

@ripe ivy appreciate the help

I guess I'll see prices and just try to get something

Cant get too picky lol

[ripe ivy]

I wouldn't expect them before the end of the year though, probably next quarter

[fluid star]

Really does it make difference between FE and partner edition wise of performance

[ripe ivy]

Uh not really

Mostly just the thermals that are different

I suppose technically that could affect performance if the card isn't able to boost as high or something

Nvidia kinda screwed their partners with the behemoth that is that 3090 FE cooler though

I'm pretty sure nothing can beat that thing

[fluid star]

Yeah

[vernal pawn]

so i just got my hands on a 3090

does it need a brace?

[clear frigate]

Also saw some stuff about an all black and reference card I'ma see if I can find the link

[vernal pawn]

a part of me says yes another part says no

[fluid star]

Oc version could be more relaible

[clear frigate]

https://www.google.com/amp/s/wccftech.com/amd-radeon-rx-6800-xt-black-edition-pictured-up-close-lenovo-legion-gaming-pc/amp/

[vernal pawn]

that's SO clean

[ripe ivy]

So they're OEM only?

[clear frigate]

I guess so I'd love to buy an all black version of that card though looks amazing without the red

[ripe ivy]

That might be worth a pretty penny down the line in the second hand market

[fluid star]

3 fans everytime would be good

[faint kindle]

[prisma snow]

whats better AMD or Nvidia?

[lone pond]

Nvidia for RTX

AMD for no RTX

[prisma snow]

ok

what about performance to price ratios?

[ripe ivy]

Eh they're both kind of the same, Nvidia has a bit of an edge at 4k; 1440 it's more of a toss up

[lone pond]

if you're going lower 30 series, 3070 is much better than the 6800, but the 6800xt and the 3080 are so comparable and close in performance that it doesn't really matter which one you pick up. If you care about looks then go 3080, but if you just want a great graphics card, both are perfectly fine

[restive fossil]

looking for a decent gpu under 150?

[spare relic]

RX 580, 570

[hardy wind]

do you think. 3090 would bottleneck with a 5800x

[spare relic]

lol

[hardy wind]

what

[humble hemlock]

na i think even the 5600x can be paired with a 3090, im just assuming lol but 5800x should be fine

[ripe ivy]

I mean yeah, if you're playing at 1080p maybe. But then I think you should consider questioning your life choices when you're paying $1500+ for a graphics card to play on your 1080p monitor

[limpid latch]

soon soon corsair waterblock will ship for my ventus 3090

alphacools got pushed back again

[feral wadi]

im buying a new gpu and i have a 500w psu, i put my parts into PC part picker and it totals to 394W and its not telling it me it would be a problem, obviously i should get a new PSU but do i need to for this rn?

[pseudo gale]

What gou are you getting

[feral wadi]

MSI Radeon RX 5700 XT 8 GB MECH OC Video Card

rn i have a rx580

[limpid latch]

if your going to get anything 6800 or 3080 up you need more for sure

[pseudo gale]

What’s your other specs

[feral wadi]

ryzen 5 2600

asus prime x470 pro

corsair vengeance 16gb

[limpid latch]

500w gold/bronze what?

[ripe ivy]

How long have you had the power supply for?

[feral wadi]

close to a year now

i dont remember what it is rn

think gold

i mean i can get a new psu

im just asking

[limpid latch]

if your sticking to what you have listed should be fine, but if you get a newer cpu and gpu id bump up

[feral wadi]

im just getting a new gpu for now

i dont think i will throttle my gpu that much rn

[limpid latch]

if you get a 6000 or 3000 gpu then you def need to upgrade, 5700xt shouldnt bottleneck

honestly ive had a corsair rn850x gold plus since 2015 i think

[ripe ivy]

I think it makes sense to replace a power supply once its warranty is up

[limpid latch]

probably

what is it for corsair 5 years i think

[ripe ivy]

Might depend on the unit, 5 years is pretty typical for most brands

The one I got has 7

It's a Bitfenix Whisper

[limpid latch]

the fan barely is ever used on it, never gets hot enough

10 year

warranty

[bitter jungle]

This is gonna be a long shot question but doesn’t anyone know roughly how much it would be to have ASRock RMA a broken RX 570 4gb?

[ripe ivy]

Was Asrock unable to give that info?

[raw shard]

anyone know if AIB 6800/XT cards are confirmed to drop tomorrow and what time?

[ripe ivy]

They will be for tomorrow, time unknown

But lookout for Sapphire, Powercolor and XFX they will have the most cards

[raw shard]

thanks!

[granite jay]

hey if the 3060 ti does actually come out is the nvidia site where im going to have to preorder?

[wild quest]

Theyre probably not gonna do preorder

[granite jay]

so is it going to be like in store only ?

[ripe ivy]

They already said they're not selling them in their store anymore

They shifted it to Best Buy to handle

[granite jay]

ok so i will only be able to buy it at bestbuy?

[uneven portal]

It is best to buy it there

I think they're the exclusive retailer

[granite jay]

ok

so is it going to be online or just in store?

ok nevermind thanks

[ripe ivy]

Well it's Best Buy if you want the FE model

Everywhere else otherwise

[granite jay]

ok that makes sense

yeah im just going to try and get fe unless something else comes out at the same time

[uneven portal]

XFX MERC 319 is what I'm going for

[granite jay]

is that designs cooling better?

[ripe ivy]

That card looks really nice

But I'm not sure if it will have the performance to go along with it

The way its designed is giving me Radeon VII vibes

[granite jay]

cool

[uneven portal]

This boy thicc

[ripe ivy]

THAT'S ONE THICC BOI

[granite jay]

thats very chonk

[uneven portal]

Almost 13" long

[granite jay]

yeah no

[frigid anvil]

LOL

[granite jay]

im not buying that

[uneven portal]

Fits my case

I just measured

[granite jay]

cool

[ripe ivy]

So maybe I need a more in depth look

[granite jay]

full tower?

[ripe ivy]

Cause the side of the cooler kinda looks restrictive to air flow, maybe not as bad as the Radeon Vii but it's giving me that vibe

[uneven portal]

Yeah I only go for full towers

That cooler is huge

[granite jay]

ive got a small mid tower

[uneven portal]

I think I might be able to overclock the ever living stuff out of it

[ripe ivy]

I think I could just about fit a card that long in my case

319 in it's name

That should be the length in millimeters right?

[uneven portal]

319 is probably lenght in millimeters

This card will live on as a meme way after it's obsoleted

[ripe ivy]

I'm covered for 350mm

[granite jay]

ive got a 280 mm LOL

[uneven portal]

About the same here

350ish

[ripe ivy]

I think most cases now support at least that much

We've moved on from hard drive cages taking up space

[uneven portal]

Yeah my case fans will blow directly on it

My armor case got the tin snips treatement because of HDD cages

I have hard drives just dangling about in there now

It was the 7870XT that didn't fit in there

I wish they made it just a tad longer

So even less people would buy it

[granite jay]

HDD go BRRRRRRRRRRR

[uneven portal]

So I would have a better chance at obtaining one

[granite jay]

thats why i got them out of my case

[uneven portal]

My next build will have no HDD

Or optical drisk drive of any sort

Or floppy for that matter

I'm ditching the spinning rust

[ripe ivy]

I rarely hear the sounds of my pc

Let alone the one hard drive in it

[uneven portal]

I had 2x 1tb WD black since 2010 or so

Never heard them

Last year I bought a 4TB WD black

GRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR all day long

Loading game: GRRRRRRRRRRRRR

[ripe ivy]

All those extra platters

[uneven portal]

I'm done

[granite jay]

sorry my external hard drive with my steam library is like 5 db

[uneven portal]

I have a 2TB rocketQ waiting for a CPU and video card

When it's full I'm buying a 4TB

[granite jay]

cool

https://pcpartpicker.com/b/HG8Ycf

just found this microwave pc on pcpartpicker

[steel smelt]

You guys think there will be more GPU sales for Cyber Monday? All the ones right now either kinda blow or are almost impossible to snatch up due to availability.

[granite jay]

yeah really

[uneven portal]

All the GPU's you don't want will be on sale

[granite jay]

exactly

like all the radeon cards before 5500 xt

[uneven portal]

HD2600 70% off

[ripe ivy]

I'll take a 5870 for 10 bucks

[wild quest]

THATS RIGHT, I FORGOT

[steel smelt]

Lol so basically the stuff that's on sale now. The only things that's interesting is the MSI 5600 for 249.99 with a code, but it's always sold out

[wild quest]

I need to get a 570/580/590

[winter dagger]

@wild quest Look into the Sapphire Nitro 580 OC

It’s the best 580

[ripe ivy]

There's an Asrock Phantom Gaming 5700XT for 380 I guess

[granite jay]

thats ok

[wild quest]

Thank you

[steel smelt]

Thing is though, isn't 380 real close to the expected price of the 3060ti that's supposed to drop in Dec?

[granite jay]

your right

[pine rapids]

any1 on the evga waitlist

[steel smelt]

Me

[pine rapids]

ooo, when did you sign up for it

[granite jay]

for 3060?

[ripe ivy]

Yeah I didn't really think of that actually

[steel smelt]

A few days after release of the 3070

[granite jay]

wait so 3070 ?

[winter dagger]

Np

[steel smelt]

Yeah, that's when I got on the wait list.

[pine rapids]

i signed up for the 3080

hoping i can buy a card before 2021

[winter dagger]

@pine rapids by the summer 2021 the stock of the 3080 should become steady so if you’ve signed up you should probably get one before then

[steel smelt]

Same here with the 3070. Thought about getting a 3080 but I only game and at 1440, so the 3070 is plenty for me.

[pine rapids]

i think the 3080 is the sweetspot for 1440p

[winter dagger]

Smart buying

[winter dagger]

It’s actually overkill for 1440

Almost

[pine rapids]

and i signed up for the waitlist a few days after 3080 launch

i have a 3070 rn

[winter dagger]

Oh nice

[pine rapids]

i feel like its not quite there for 1440p 144hz

[winter dagger]

Ah

[uneven portal]

1440p is probably done best on radeon

[winter dagger]

It won’t be

[steel smelt]

Best case I get a 3070 now, then sell it when the 3070 ti comes out to get one of those. That's the dream lol

[uneven portal]

Unless you care about real time ray tracing

[pine rapids]

yea, if youre cool with 120ish

fps or about

[winter dagger]

Yeah nice

[pine rapids]

then the 3070 is more than enough

[jolly otter]

whats the best place to place an online back order on a 3080 TUF OC?

pc-canada is the only one that hasnt closed the online ones i think

[pine rapids]

cant be picky with cards if you plan to get one one anytime soon

[midnight oxide]

hello, anyone know in-depth about 5700 xt gpu's? i have a question

[pine rapids]

i had a 5700xt for a bit, but dont know too much about it

[midnight oxide]

i just have a question about the asrock phantom 5700xt video card

after the amd driver updates does it still have issues such as over heating or game crashes?

[pine rapids]

are you in the market for one ?

[midnight oxide]

yeah

[pine rapids]

go with red devil, sapphire or gaming x

[midnight oxide]

its going for pretty cheap in canada right now

yeah those are the secure ones but the asrock is going for $486 CAD

[uneven portal]

axe: if you're willing to risk it you can always try it and underclock it if it has heat issues

[ripe ivy]

I mentioned earlier that card is on sale

[midnight oxide]

probably $100 less

yeah im really scared though for that 1 small chance of it happening

[uneven portal]

iirc AMD updated the cards to run closer to the thermal limits to better compete

[jolly otter]

i bet a better one will go on sale closer to friday or cyber monday

[midnight oxide]

does underclocking also take away performance?

[uneven portal]

You can always manually set them back to a more efficient clock speed

[ripe ivy]

They do 2050Mhz on its own

[uneven portal]

Yes but not always linearly

[midnight oxide]

hmmm

[uneven portal]

Sometimes it's worth underclocking to avoid too much heat

[pine rapids]

and it wont be a dramatic drop in performance

[uneven portal]

As would likely be the case with this cheap 5700xt

[midnight oxide]

would you suggest i buy it instead of paying maybe $80 or $100 more for a powercolour or sapphire?

respectively

[jolly otter]

sapphire is $40 off at least

[pine rapids]

If you dont wanna underclock, i would spend the extra for it

[midnight oxide]

yea but the difference between asrock phantom and sapphire pulse is $80

[pine rapids]

youre buying from newegg right

[midnight oxide]

hmm this is my first build im at loss right now

yeah

[ripe ivy]

This is the card in question

https://www.newegg.com/asrock-radeon-rx-5700-xt-rx5700xt-pgd-8go/p/N82E16814930023

[midnight oxide]

yup

[ripe ivy]

Oh it's on Backorder here anyway

[pine rapids]

try the red devil card

[midnight oxide]

its available in canada

[pine rapids]

red devil and nitro+ perform about the same

but the red devil card cost as much as a pulse card which is not as good as the nitro+

[midnight oxide]

yea but in canada the nitro is almost $150 more than the asrock xd

and the red devil is $110 more

[uneven portal]

Personally if price is an issue I'd bet on the phantom

[pine rapids]

https://www.newegg.ca/powercolor-radeon-rx-5700-xt-axrx-5700xt-8gbd6-3dhe-oc/p/N82E16814131752?Description=5700xt&cm_re=5700xt-_-14-131-752-_-Product

[uneven portal]

Best case is that it works as intended

[pine rapids]

oof

[uneven portal]

And it's highly probable

[pine rapids]

ca prices are not as friendly

[uneven portal]

Worst case you either re-seath your cooling solution or underclock

[midnight oxide]

do you think waiting a bit more i can see sales on the other 5700xt models??

[uneven portal]

Yes

[midnight oxide]

the good ones

waiting until the 27th?

[uneven portal]

Black friday and cyber monday will probably be a good time for 5700 buyers

[midnight oxide]

will there be more sales?

[jolly otter]

yes

[ripe ivy]

Just bring up the fan curve if temps are an issue

[pine rapids]

5700xts go on sale quite frequently

[jolly otter]

there will be sales that are only available on black friday for 5700xt's most likely, same thing for cyber monday

[midnight oxide]

in canada as well?

[jolly otter]

yes

[midnight oxide]

and when u say only black friday u mean the 27th only right?