Unless you wanna wait out for the Ryzen 5000 and RTX3000 series (what i'd do though)
#graphics-cards
clear cape
vagrant light
winged sleet
Yes. second; ill send a PCpart picker list
Unless you wanna wait out for the Ryzen 5000 and RTX3000 series (what i'd do though)
sry for the late reply I closed discord, ty for the pc part picker list!
I do wanna wait for the RTX 3080 to come in stock ( maybe by the next century I hope) and the Ryzen 5000 series Idk, Cuz I think the ryzen 7 3700x or 3800x might be better because I need to work on the side.
Also, @clear cape Tysm for the list!
idle stratus
why would you get a 2080 right now
unique depot
Could i have some help with my rx 5600xt
It keeps greenscreening and i've tried everything ive found online but nothing works
clear cape
why would you get a 2080 right now
@idle stratus Cuz noone knows when you'll be able to get a 3000 series GPU!
I work in a Electronics store, even our suppliers dont know if they can get hands on a 3000series
sry for the late reply I closed discord, ty for the pc part picker list!
I do wanna wait for the RTX 3080 to come in stock ( maybe by the next century I hope) and the Ryzen 5000 series Idk, Cuz I think the ryzen 7 3700x or 3800x might be better because I need to work on the side.Also, @clear cape Tysm for the list!
@winged sleet no probs; made this quite recently for a friend of mine before 3000 was announced xD
winged sleet
😄
clear cape
🙂
lone pond
do u even read
i said buget
ye
witch would u recommend
i have a 1650 super alr so a 1660 would not be an upgrade
maybe will get a 2060
oof 2060 go for 600$ here
here normal 2060 go for 600+
scam
lone pond
might as well get a 3070 at that price point
@jovial goblet oi those be 1.5k usd here cus ppl dumb here
stark epoch
bout to fail grade 9 english lmao
clever harbor
thats not budget unless ur bill gates
spiral axle
fine then, get a titan or something
lone pond
titans be 2k here
clever harbor
budget lmao
lone pond
even a ryzen 5 2600 here goes for 699 usd
clever harbor
next it will be like a qudro 8000
spiral axle
i have a radeon 6900xt
lone pond
dont wanna share
clever harbor
LMAO
it isnt even out
@spiral axle the radeon 6900xt isnt even out
this kid man
spiral axle
i own amd
spiral axle
i am her
spiral axle
yep
clever harbor
ok
lone pond
i wish i could get a good gpu here
clever harbor
im outta here
spiral axle
ill give you the 7900xt
lone pond
j these go for 1.5k
clever harbor
try a 1660\
lone pond
everyone gangsta until amazon has 500$ shipping
untracked
try a 1660
@clever harbor i have a 1650 super alr
clever harbor
o
spiral axle
my friend has a 1660 super with a 3600 and it works at high graphic settings for almost every game
clever harbor
ok
lone pond
everyone gangsta till 300$ gpu has 15 fps in ms flight 2020 on low settings
thats my life
pastel quarry
Its flight sim though lol
main rapids
There is still rumor of the RTX 3060 TI for about $400, Also seeing the TI rumors for the 3070/80
lone pond
yaah u expect those to be 400$ here? nah they will be around 2.5k i think
clever harbor
im basically chillin
lone pond
people here think every new generation is worth like 50% morwe
main rapids
Ah, scalpers ....
clever harbor
i rlly want a 3000 series card tho
lone pond
same
clever harbor
but im just chillin
spiral axle
who doesnt
clever harbor
with my asus rog strix 2070
main rapids
I don't like buying 3rd party as in many cases you will not get the MFG warranty... NVIDIA/AMD might not be doing that, but always a concern...
lone pond
chilling with my used 1650 super i paid 400$ for
clever harbor
alr
lone pond
that was the cheapest one
clever harbor
mine was like 650
spiral axle
when was that
spiral axle
i paid 400 for my 5700
main rapids
I got a 2070 SUPER integrated into a PC for about $1000 as needed upgraded system. Got the ABS from NewEgg, great deal!
10700K as well...
spiral axle
intel needs to fix their naming
main rapids
Ya, never understood their naming, always need to look up the specs...
main rapids
I do deep learning as well, so more power is good for me, CPU & GPU..
spiral axle
i have an i5-6600, with a radeon 5700, old cpu, new graphics
dusk oasis
it is a good combination ryzen 5 5600 and radeon 6800?
clever harbor
not really
spiral axle
your name doesnt match what you want
clever harbor
cus ur looking at a card thats better than a 2080 ti
o
@dusk oasis nvm
its good
and u will have rage mode too
dusk oasis
yes
spiral axle
RAGE
clever harbor
i thoight u meant the r5 3600
spiral axle
kinda how nividia be raging
main rapids
What is RAGE mode?
dusk oasis
is 🤬
main rapids
LOL
clever harbor
boosts ur graphics card proformce
main rapids
Very specific thank you!
dusk oasis
Is like over clocking gpu
clever harbor
ye
spiral axle
makes your gpu go from good t opretty good
main rapids
How does it differ from basic overclocking?
clever harbor
but it barely give u any move performance
dusk oasis
it’s just one click
clever harbor
ye
spiral axle
does it matter, more preformance
clever harbor
but its isnt as good as oc
main rapids
I like the concept of value, if RAGE cost me 10% more, I want 10% more performance
spiral axle
who doesnt
hybrid kettle
From what I understand it only gives 1-2% performance boost
dusk oasis
it is a good combination ryzen 5 5600 and radeon 6800?
@dusk oasis and 240hz
main rapids
Than I am willing to pay !% more...
dreamy dragonBOT
NGX#9999 has been warned
spiral axle
it comes with the card
clever harbor
no it doesnt
spiral axle
yeah, ik
dusk oasis
cpu 5000
spiral axle
im pretty sure he said he was going amd for cpu
clever harbor
but the 5000 series got rgb dye
dusk oasis
i just had to correct u
@clever harbor burger i am watching your youtube channel lol
clever harbor
lmfao
clever harbor
lone pond
thonks have some :Bepis: 😄
what why cant i use my nitro emojis?
@clever harbor thonks have some :Bepis: 😄
main rapids
Now I am hungry...
lone pond
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wut
clever harbor
clever harbor
round crown
main rapids
I knew it! 3080TI!
cyan acorn
main rapids
Wow, that is great! That solves the worlds energy problems... You can use these cards for heat with no energy costs!
clever harbor
lone pond
@clever harbor what case u have?
lone pond
send me link in dm
clever harbor
my $2800 pc vid
lone pond
nice
lone pond
ok my hamburger
main rapids
Now I want a burger for Breakfast
pastel quarry
Börger
clever harbor
lol
modern whale
Is there any recommendations on holdover cards till amd gets to normal stock?
main rapids
I like my RTX2070 Super... I can use NVIDIA Broadcast which allows for background noise reduction as well as a virtual GreenScreen which I LOVE for video conferencing...
You need an RTX Card to use Broadcast, I tried it with my 1070TI and 1080 and it didn't work...
lone pond
Hmmmm think it's worth pulling the trigger on a 5700xt for 380 nowz or wait until more 3070s get stocked/release of a 3060ti? Or any idea of there are gonna be decent black Friday/cyber Monday sales?
spice prawn
@lone pond 3 answers.
your choice.
we dont know anything about that.
Nor that.
lone pond
Dang haha im getting antsy, I was able to snap a 5600x yesterday, just need that to arrive and then a video card for my new station... decisions decisions
Snag* not snap lol
main rapids
I don't know if there will be stock of any of the RTX 30's from Black Friday... Also, not sure they need to discount them to sell...
I am still seeing Rumors that the 3070/3080 might be replaced by a TI series which means those cards may have unofficially gone EOL by NVIDIA to redirect parts to respond to AMD release with a TI model...
rancid drum
When are the cards going to be readily available?
main rapids
A good question I think many people have been asking...
hollow heath
Hello
hollow heath
What’s junction temp and how does that compare to regular temp
spice prawn
junction temp is normally the max temp for a given transistor
spice prawn
on a grapefruit? no
hollow heath
Lol
hollow heath
5700 XT
spice prawn
nothing to worry about
hollow heath
Oh ok
steel wolf
morning guys
frigid grail
hollow heath
Morning @steel wolf
hollow heath
I think it’s fixed
I used ddu and installed absolutely everything
Then I installed the specific driver
And ran heaven benchmark for 30 minutes ish
lone pond
Lucky to both metro and your buddy
merry timber
Hello, I was wondering what the difference was for the Zotac Graphics card between these models. They're the 2060 rtx. I sent them a ZT-T20600F-10M for an RMA and they are asking if they could instead send a ZT-T20600D-10M back. Is there any significant difference?
lone pond
@steel wolf I turned down my graphics and problem is still persisting. Going to pre-order the 6800XT soon
merry timber
The only place i could find the D model was in Slovakia so Im a little worried
steel wolf
hmm thats intersting
did you try reinstalling the game
maybe the files got glitched out
@lone pond
spice prawn
@merry timber its most likely just regional stock
merry timber
Alrighty so its fine for me to accept it?
merry timber
Sorry I clicked on find a store and the only one that popped up was in Slovakia. It said none were available in US
spice prawn
https://www.zotac.com/us/product/graphics_card/zotac-gaming-geforce-rtx-2060-twin-fan <- that is the model you sent
https://www.zotac.com/sk/product/graphics_card/zotac-gaming-geforce-rtx-2060-amp <- that is what they are offering
merry timber
Yes
spice prawn
the 5th line on the specifications tab is where you will find the difference
merry timber
Alrighty thank you. I checked over the specs but I must have missed it
lucid karma
Ngl I actually really like the look of that card
spice prawn
and you are very welcome @merry timber :)
merry timber
🙂
dreamy sage
question should i just get a 2070 super or wait until 3070s come back in stock
spice prawn
@dreamy sage that is your choice
dreamy sage
is it really worth the couple month wait?
because who knows when it’ll come back in stock
hollow heath
Now time to text in game while streaming
dreamy dragonBOT
METR0B00MING#9608 has been warned
hollow heath
Oops sorry
I was playing music and playing and streaming and all of sudden it froze and closed out
cursive canopy
how can this be so much on newegg?
hollow heath
@steel wolf Any thoughts
steel wolf
what kinda of ram are you using
hollow heath
Gskill ripjaws 3600 mhz
hollow heath
Yes
Maybe it's the stream?
Maybe it's my dual monitors
Maybe it's the fact that I'm playing and listening to music and streaming?
steel wolf
where are you streaming to
steel wolf
join the gen 2 voice chat
spice prawn
@sinful bobcat sorry for the ping, but you asked for these in cases where the prices are all kinds of funky
https://www.newegg.com/p/pl?d=dual-rtx3070-o8g <- check that
steel wolf
thats third party sellers
royal copper
pretty cheap
spice prawn
aye, i know @steel wolf
does not change that he has asked to be informed
and the newegg webserver is ofc having a fit right about now, so i cannot actually access the full site
sinful bobcat
🇹 🇾
Reporting
royal copper
there is a email line for that also
spice prawn
@sinful bobcat while at it, look up at what @cursive canopy linked in his pic
there is the MSI model too
same bs
cursive canopy
i thought price gouging was against the law? I have bought from newegg for years, never seen such things before.. bought parts for this new PC i built, all decent priced.. but almost double the average price? just makes me O.O
royal copper
it especially happened a lot near beginning of pandemic
cursive canopy
i bought some things that was 5-10% higher in middle of pandemic.. I was ok with that.. but double? thought newegg checks up on their third party sellers?
royal copper
mm
spice prawn
too many sellers to do that all the time
sinful bobcat
From my understanding, the term Price Gouging is mainly applied to basic necessities:
https://consumer.findlaw.com/consumer-transactions/price-gouging-laws-by-state.html
cursive canopy
saw the orange "add to cart" got happy.. then saw the price... sadness happened lol
spice prawn
it is Mike
royal copper
Mm reminds me of the whole crypto thing when gpu prices doubled or tripled in some areas
hard wren
price gouging happens all the time its called supply and demand
hollow heath
5700 XT is garbage lmao
cursive canopy
oh i understand supply and demand, if someone buys it.. good for them 😄
lone pond
I'm going to pre-order the 6800XT as soon as I can
royal copper
im sure some people would pay that much
lone pond
@hollow heath nah
sinful bobcat
So while we allow 3rd party sellers on our site, they are allowed to set their own prices.
Some sellers need to up the price to recoup some loss if they had to purchase their inventory elsewhere.
If they set the prices too high, then no one buys.
HOWEVER, Newegg has publicly stated that for the 30 series cards, we'll be reporting sellers. So yeah, email us any fishy listings from sellers: fairpricing@newegg.com
lucid karma
Why is 5700xt garbage?
lone pond
I don't use rtx so it's a waste
royal copper
nvidia or amd is not one overall better than the other
hollow heath
@lone pond My 5700XT isn't working even after I tried everything
lone pond
@hollow heath my 5500xt isn't either
spice prawn
@hollow heath and that tells you what exactly?
lone pond
So....
Plus it might be your card specifically, not the brand
Cause ik someone who fried a 2080ti
spice prawn
from my point of view, it tells me that you, the user @hollow heath has 1 faultly card, maybe.
hollow heath
Ehhhh
spice prawn
because i cannot rule out that you tried to mount it in the blender or something
lone pond
By your logic since the card won't work, 2080tis suck
hollow heath
I did buy it used but still
lone pond
That's where you went wrong
lucid karma
I mean I’ve gotten a faulty nvidia card before. Does that mean I should hate nvidia and never get their stuff?
hard wren
its called anecdotal evidence
lone pond
That was the main mistake, buying used
hollow heath
Then when I play Fortnite for like 10 minutes it's done
lone pond
I almost never buy used
lucid karma
And theres the second mistake
spice prawn
read up on what the differences in load actually means @hollow heath
because you are currently waving a shoe around while loudly proclaiming its not a shoe
cursive canopy
@sinful bobcat ty for your response.. I appreciate it... the seller has quite a lot of negative reports already...
spice prawn
where in the heck did you get that idea?
cursive canopy
how good is your power supply @hollow heath ?? don't know if you said that yet...
spice prawn
thats like saying: gravity should not work because it might hurt me if i trip
hollow heath
I have a CX750
I had a 2070 Super before and it ran perfectly and this card is like ehhhhh
hard wren
Or I could only hurt myself if I fell from 10ft a 5 ft fall couldnt hurt me
cursive canopy
are you able to look into the card? see if some funky stuff happening in there?? like blown capacitors or fried areas?
lone pond
Or you could contact the seller
hollow heath
I looked around like an overview with the shroud on and I don't see anything weird
I contacted him and told him
He said he used it on 2 different systems without problems
And that he had 500W PSU
hard wren
I feel like its more of a fortnite problem if its the only game that crashes your pc
hollow heath
Well I haven't tested other games
hard wren
perhaps verify/reinstall fortnite files
hollow heath
It might also be OBS
cursive canopy
and your MB worked fine with your old graphics card? i'd also suggest checking your RAM.. sometimes they act up, and have a few ways of showing they not running too well...
cursive canopy
have you got rid of old drivers, and installed fresh?
lone pond
@hard wren I've tried a few other games, due to the issue last night, even lowered graphics setting. Still persists
cursive canopy
ok good.... drivers are fickle too
hard wren
@lone pond I still think you need to RMA that card
lone pond
Ok
crisp ocean
I got a text from my friend in my english class saying this girl liked me
while i was showing him my GPU
think i killed my odds?
lone pond
Like I'm still using kerbel, but at the lowest graphics and I'm still 99-100% GPU usage. 11fps too
hard wren
yeah that GPU is troubled
lone pond
I might take it out and give it a once over first
hard wren
and to be sure it is in the 16x pcie slot right?
lone pond
I also want to try reinstalling my 1tb evo plus into my Mobo again
@hard wren of course
I only have x16 and x1 slots
hard wren
I figured but that would look like this if you did
lone pond
Well time to shut down
frozen seal
why u think
opaque yarrow
anybody got a suggestion for a cheap used 150-200 pound gpu
lone pond
@hard wren I did a visual and smell inspection, seems fine
Who knows maybe taking it out and putting it back in fixed it
limber vigil
I wanted to see the rtx 3070, and most cards are sold out
daring tusk
by most you mean all of them
daring tusk
because they are new and people are buying seconds after they come in stock
limber vigil
understood, then this is a temporary solution?
daring tusk
hopefully the stock will get better soon but im guessing 6 months to a year before its in relatively constant stock
lone pond
Ok so good news is my ssd's work, testing gpu
spice prawn
@daring tusk not going to take that long
the market can be patient, for a while, but the market is NOT patient for 6months+
dapper palm
Companies need to stop just putting a few hundred for sale on major nation wide etail sites. All that stock ends up being bought by scalpers. Need enough inventory to pad via 1 purchase per address to allow everyday people to purchase.
terse bloom
That doesn't really make sense.
crisp ocean
thats why its better to shop in person
lucid karma
Thats why it’s better for companies to better anticipate demand
terse bloom
Per address? How many addresses? And it's not like every address in the country is gonna buy one either. So companies are just doing what they can, make a reasonable amount of what they can, put it out. If it's not enough, they make more.
Cause for any business, you want more demand than supply. It's how you sell things. More supply than demand? Then you've just wasted money making stuff that no one is gonna buy anymore.
At least some people have managed to get 30series cards. I have 3 friends that I game with who have managed to get 1 or 2.
spice prawn
@lucid karma are you willing to pay for that?
because that will instantly force a heck a of a price hike
terse bloom
So if you're saying it's better for nVidia to delay their launch, until they've doubled or tripled their stock, to ensure there's enough supply to meet demand.. That's pretty unreasonable. (especially after adding in bots that will just buy up as much stock as inhumanly possible)
lucid karma
Yeah I’m not gonna get into this, but yeah nvidia is a completely disgusting company and I hate it
Just like every other company
spice prawn
yet, you did get into it
if you are willing to put forth statements, you should also be willing to listen when people answer those statements
dreamy dragonBOT
SlingshotWaffles#7627 has been warned
terse bloom
I still need to figure out what the hell I'm dealing with... My roommate asked me to help her upgrade her PC. So far, her only condition is, she wants to keep the case. Except, I'm only used to working with mid-tower PCs, and her case is a mini or micro..
And considering it uses DDR3 and FM2+, I feel like I'm gonna need to replace everything inside it.
spice prawn
you will
nothing worth saving in that @terse bloom
simple starting point for you is this: Figure out what case, psu, storage she has
those are the parts that realistically might be reusable
crisp ocean
APU's are kinda dead, the mobo won't support anything, DDR3 isn't good, im assuming you'll need a new cooler, ram isn't ddr3,
Case is the easiest, PSU just depends, and storage odds are is fine
spice prawn
@crisp ocean except that both consoles technically are APU's, but lets ignore that little detail for now :)
spice prawn
3000G/3200G/3400G <- all the machines which use these would like a word with you, but carry on :)
solemn moat
Hi friends, I heard through a buddy of mine that apparently there are a lot of issues with the GeForce 16 series? I don’t want to spend more than 300 on a graphics card but if it’s really that bad then maybe I can stretch it and get something from the 20 series
lofty thistle
Maybe a 2070 or 2060 super
solemn moat
For reference I’m looking for something that will be able to handle AAA titles well, don’t need crazy graphics but med high would be great
lofty thistle
A 1070ti might suit you also
past crown
or a 5500xt or 5600xt
solemn moat
What’s wrong with the 16 series? I’m not in the loop about this stuff
lofty thistle
I dont have much experience with the 16 series
solemn moat
That’s interesting
crisp ocean
I believe people just didn't like the value
solemn moat
https://www.newegg.com/msi-geforce-gtx-1660-gtx-1660-gaming-x-6g/p/N82E16814137401 this is the one I had been looking at
crisp ocean
the 1660 super was good
past crown
yeah
dusk nexus
Hey yall wondering if we have any information about the upcoming release of the AMD 6000 series.. do we know if AIBs will be selling custom varients in the first wave? Or will they all be reference designs with logos on them
solemn moat
Thank you for the recommendations y’all
spice prawn
@dusk nexus considering that we are already seeing some of the AIB models. Fair chance they will be swinging from the start
dusk nexus
@spice prawn ok cool, ik I saw the sapphire model but I read that it was just the reference one so I wasn't sure if it was going to be custom or not
spice prawn
@dusk nexus reference/non-reference is a bit of a "odd" way. because it can mean ref PCB with a custom cooler
or a custom pcb with a ref cooler
or a ref pcb with a ref cooler BUT a custom sticker
the custom PCB i doubt we will see right at launch, but who knows
dusk nexus
Ok so performance among all of the different aibs should be the same?
spice prawn
i imagine it will be quite close
and yes ,ofc there will be a benchmark somewhere that shows a difference
BUT, keep in mind, what i just said is based on previous launches of cards
we dont know yet abiout these
hollow heath
I'm back
dusk nexus
@spice prawn na i totally get that, im just trying to decide if i want to try and snag one day 1 or wait... i missed out on the 5000 series cpus and now the stores near mw only have the 5600x left. Im not sure if that will bottle next the 3080 equivalent tho
icy trellis
Indeed faxx
spice prawn
@dusk nexus remember, give the zen3 chips some time, its only 1½ day since launch
as for launch plans: again, give it some time, i imagine we will know a lot more as we get closer
re: bottleneck: you can bottleneck anything with anything. Just a question of how you test it
dusk nexus
That's true, im gonna be playing at 1440p
So inwould assume the 5600x could keep up considering it seemed to beat the 10900k per Gamers Nexus in game Benchmarks
hollow heath
It did it again
torpid thicket
@dusk nexus the 5600x will have no issues keeping up. Or at least it definitely shouldnt
spice prawn
@dusk nexus imo, its in the "close enough" range
but again. Do you have your GPU yet?
viscid dove
How do I connect my gpu 8 and 6 pin to the psu
I have a pcie cable that works to extend them just I don’t think it’s right
dusk nexus
@spice prawn yes I have a 1060 6gb rn
hollow heath
@steel wolf It did it again lmao
dusk nexus
@torpid thicket and ight that's what I was thinking after seeing the benchmarks
coarse spindle
Im running a radeon hd6750
steel wolf
damm bro lol
spice prawn
@dusk nexus i mean, you talked as IF you are getting either a 3080 or something?
dusk nexus
@spice prawn yea i want to buy the 6800xt to replace my 1060
I'm building a new PC
Just feels weird to pair a 6core with a 6800xt lol
spice prawn
think about it like this: Grab a 5600x and keep it in its box. keep an eye out for something bigger.
and wait,
because you will be waiting anyway
hollow heath
@steel wolf it did it when I started using Spotify and the stream and the game lmao
I tried reseating the GPU let’s see
steel wolf
thats crazy bro
dusk nexus
@spice prawn yea but I have a 1060 I could pop in and use while I wait for the new GPU. The 5800x got pretty bad reviews like it shouldn't exist, thats what i was looking to buy so it really feels like it comes down to either saving 150 and grabbing a 5600x or spending the extra 100 and getting the 5900x
Its 100% for gaming tho so the 5900x feels wasted
spice prawn
who was the "genius" that said the 5800x should not exist?
jays2?
because that sounds silly enough to fit him
dusk nexus
Na Steve from GN.. said its basically in no man's land
Not worth the 150 extra over the 5600x
spice prawn
yes, if you ignore budget
dusk nexus
Watcha mean?
spice prawn
if you dont have 550 for a 5900x
dusk nexus
Ahh right
dusk nexus
Yea thats exactly what he said
spice prawn
but that does not mean it does not have its place
dusk nexus
He said you could just drop to the 5600x and it would be a better price/performance
Said the 5800x needs about an 80$ price cut
spice prawn
yes, but please remember this:
price/performance is only that
its the price in relation to the performance
dusk nexus
Ok so I think I hear ya. My biggest thing is I really just want the CPU to last me a little longer then my 6500 has.. this this is basically dead at 4 years
Its really bad
I'm scared the 5600x would end up in the same spot. But didn't wanna feel ripped off going with the 5800x
spice prawn
4 years is a long time in pc land
split storm
you guys think the new AMD gpus are gunna be worth it?
spice prawn
not saying that to comfort you or anything, but to give some context @dusk nexus
things keep on moving, so 4 years is a LONG time
hollow heath
Ok so @steel wolf no crash yet but it’s lagging
spice prawn
and keep in mind, we are most likely in the second to last ddr4 gen
dreamy dragonBOT
CrazyCarl39#4106 has been warned
dusk nexus
Darn I always forget I have to say poop lol
spice prawn
as in, we will probably get a refresh (like the 3600xt-ish stuff)
spice prawn
you got a ssd?
dusk nexus
No matter what settings its so bad
Yea i had a crutial p1
I just moved it into a different PC tho
spice prawn
what cooler on the cpu?
dusk nexus
Stock, it isn't OCd
spice prawn
that was part of your problem then
dusk nexus
Well lol
spice prawn
not saying it is going to make it into a super computer
dusk nexus
Guess that means I should go buy a new cooler for the 3600 system I just built for my GF..
spice prawn
but a non-stock cooler would make it usable (unless something has legit broken)
no no, that is intel only
the amd stock coolers are fine
they make noise, but they at least cool things
dusk nexus
@spice prawn yea dude idk its to the point where like trying to open a web browser gives the thing an aneurysm
spice prawn
aye
hollow heath
Hmmm
spice prawn
that sounds like it just heat throttles itself to heck and back
spice prawn
got any local shops you could scrounge a old cooler from?
dusk nexus
Like i said tho I don't even need it to be blazing fast I just want what ever CPU I buy to be usable still in 4-6 years
spice prawn
the 5600x should be usable if nothing else
dusk nexus
Thats all I'm looking for lol.. the 3600 will die before that which will let me know the 5600x is getting close too
And thats a good idea I live in NY youd think we do but idt we have any
We have microcenters
lone pond
Ive been looking at gpu riser cables for a vertical mount...seen some labeled pci e 4.0, most of them aren't labeled like that tho...is that a thing? Are there specific cables for the 4.0 bus?
spice prawn
go and ask them if they have a basket of old coolers for the relevant intel socket
dusk nexus
Yea not a bad idea I could give that a try
spice prawn
because its just "trash" to them
coarse spindle
I have a bunch
dusk nexus
Bc I've been so confused, any game I fire up immediately pegs it to 90-100%
spice prawn
but it might earn them a buck or ten
hence why they keep them around
and remember to pickup some thermal paste if you dont have some already
dusk nexus
Word yes I will!
I might just see if they still have the 5600x in stock lol
Like I'm just not sure what extra value the 5800x even brings me if im 10000% pure gaming
stuck pollen
which GPU should i pair with my 5950x 3900 or 5900?
spice prawn
but its all a guess :)
stuck pollen
ofc this is in the long run because who knows when anyone can get either
spice prawn
@stuck pollen your choice. One is out right now, but cost 1500, one is NOT out, but costs 1000
dusk nexus
@spice prawn yea very true and fair enough.. and I like to think that the 5600x that is giving the performance of a 10900k will last since thats insane gains
spice prawn
:)
dusk nexus
Hey ik totally off topic to GPU but do you think a sycthe fuma 2 would be overkill for a 5600x?
spice prawn
nah
dusk nexus
Ight cool ty
stuck token
the scythe fuma 2 would be overkill for the 5600x
if the 5600x came with a stock cooler, you wouldn't need a cooler of that calibre
terse bloom
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/4LKj2V
This is all I have for now, but I know my roommate will be using wifi and trying to stream.
Just don't know what her budget is, or if she'll even have any money to upgrade her GPU too
stuck token
going with a 3600xt with zen2 already here?
also why oloy ram
and why only 3000mhz
spice prawn
@stuck token 3600xt is a zen2 chip
stuck token
bdwyudgawyugh
i meant zen3
also there are some ram kits out there
that are 3200mhz
cl16
terse bloom
It's not for me, and I'm trying to be cheap and budget friendly for someone who has to drive 40 miles away to work at Domino's part time.
spice prawn
please dont waste money on that UX100
stuck token
yeah
the stock cooler would be fine
but what is your friend going to use the pc for
hollow heath
@steel wolf I’m gonna return the card
stuck token
if your friend is only browsing the web and doing light gaming, then a 2600 would be fine
terse bloom
Video making/editing, streaming, and it all has to fit in an old case. So has to be micro.
stuck token
streaming?
merry night
Why facebook?
stuck token
also why are you getting a b550 motherboard
fervent obsidian
why not?
stuck token
good argument
so yeah ditch the ram if you want, definitely ditch the cooler
wait no
terse bloom
Why facebook? That's not a question I can answer.
stuck token
you're gonna be video editing
hollow heath
If y'all could pick a 390 dollar GPU what would y'all buy
fervent obsidian
3060ti whenever that's out
odd spoke
i would wait for the 3060 and/or any AMD budget offer that follows
stuck token
and 2000 series cards have dropped in prices
fervent obsidian
not at all
hollow heath
I bought a 5700 XT
odd spoke
or buy a 2k series card 2nd hand yeah
fervent obsidian
2000 series cards have not dropped
maybe used
and the occasional b stock card but
hollow heath
And I was super disappointed
I'm just gonna return the card and get something Nvidia
stuck token
Why facebook? That's not a question I can answer.
@terse bloom if you're going to be aircooling, you shouldn't use that thermaltake cooler, because your friend is planning to edit videos, which is a cpu intensive task, so i'd recommend you find a better cooler
spice prawn
anyone thinking that the 2000 series would drop was setting themselves up for disappointment
stuck token
i'm considering buying a 1080ti fe just as a decor piece
terse bloom
I picked the b550 mobo cause I looked for micro form factor with wifi 6. And it was one of the cheapest options.
hollow heath
How is a 2080 compared to a 2070 Super
stuck token
you're too vague
hollow heath
?
stuck token
what do you mean how is a 2080 compared to a 2070 super
hollow heath
Well obviously speed wise
stuck token
btw you should go to #cpus-mobo-and-memory
terse bloom
But in either case, I'm dealing with a PC that was originally using FM2+ and DDR3. I was asked to help her upgrade it, so I'm just doing a rough draft of possible parts to look for that might be compatible.
spice prawn
@terse bloom as mentioned earlier: start fresh mate
psu, case, storage are what you can most likely reuse
terse bloom
And that's what I'm trying to do. Replace the mobo, the cpu, and the ram.
Well, I have to reuse the case, since that's her one condition.
spice prawn
thats a very weird way of phrasing it @terse bloom
it depends on the metric you are looking at
stuck token
probably the gtx 1070
deft zealot
Quick question, I don't know if it belongs here but, can wifi interfere with GPU risers if the antenna is close enough?
terse bloom
Sorry. My friend told me she upgraded it once, and got the second best nvidia card in 2016.
spice prawn
@stuck token you just turn the antenna
deft zealot
Yeah, but I'm looking for a mod with a raspberry pi in wifi, inside the case..
spice prawn
no
dusk nexus
@stuck token could you look at my build and tell me what ya think?
stuck token
sure
dusk nexus
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/gJs2Vc
The 3080 is just a placeholder.. will go with 6800xt likely
stuck token
the case comes with 2 140mm fans as intake right
spice prawn
@terse bloom in 2016 the king and the second in place was 1080/1070
stuck token
yeah it deos
honestly a solid build
i've heard of team ssds before
but haven't heard much about mushkin yet
but from what I can see they made good ssds
so
yeah your build is fine
dusk nexus
@stuck token yea sorry
Ok would you recommend one of those ssds over the other i kept them both so I didn't forget the other lol
spice prawn
just about like any other 2070
hollow heath
How is it compared to a 2060 Super tho
hollow heath
If i get the 2070 for 365 is that a good price?
calm vault
should i wait for black friday to get 1660 super
hearty cosmos
When will the rtx 3060 be released
hybrid kettle
From what I've seen on here December 2nd
wanton grove
which is better: Nvidia's 3090, or AMD's AMD Radeon RX 6900 XT?
fervent obsidian
depends on what you're using it for
left oar
all the inappropriate stuff
i think it's hard to say right now which is better. I think SAM and RAGE was utilized to achieve similar performance
split storm
Is the whole AMD cpu accessing the gpu ram directly thing something developers have to account for, or is it something that automatically happens that can improve performance? do you guys know much about that?
left oar
so if you don't have an AMD CPU you might not achieve the 6900 XT's highest performance
@split storm i could be wrong, but i think it's limited to the 5000 series cpus
split storm
yeah it is, it's a new thing, I'm just curious if it's going to have much impact
left oar
i hope so... i think it makes a lot of sense that AMD tries to utilize the most out of their hardware
sick turtle
3090 in stock on newegg.ca
also a 3070 psu combo
https://www.newegg.ca/Product/ComboDealDetails?ItemList=Combo.4190583
left oar
poop
sick turtle
yup
small estuary
you cant input an american address
makes me pretty heated honestly. They have the exact one i want
but american newegg?
LOL
remote thistle
i want a 3080
sick turtle
we're on the same boat then
remote thistle
😦
small estuary
canada gettin special treatment bruh
remote thistle
bro intel or amd for new build or should i wait for the new intel processors
hollow gyro
best GPU for price?
coarse spindle
in alaska it is soo annoying
small estuary
its gone
canadian stock is kil
and yet there's so many pre-built PCs by CLX that have 3090s in them
talk about a waste of stock
timid reef
I saw one today
Some person walked into Canada computers and picked his up
In store
fathom bear
I can’t understand why they would make pre-built 3090s at all
How is there a market for that?
hexed fern
yeah that doesn't make sense
fathom bear
Or maybe their margins are better when they sell you an entire pc
hexed fern
if you are going to spend that much on a system anyway there is no reason to pay the extra just to not have to build it
they have to pay a premium
fathom bear
And people will buy the whole pc just to get the 3090
past crown
skytech doesnt even have 30xx series cards in they prebuilts
hexed fern
if you buy a prebuilt
past crown
they got 2080ti for 1999
hexed fern
thats not a bad a idea]
eternal locust
I need y'all's advice
So the 3070 I've seen rumors is available once every few days but sells out so quick each time it isn't mentioned
Is this true?
Like they restock a bit every few days or nah?
split storm
Mainly if you're willing to pay the marked up prices, right? Or do sellers who actually sell them for retail price restock
I havent seen any 3070s listed below like 700
past crown
yeah their pretty expensive
spice prawn
they do come in at msrp
past crown
but if you wait the hype will go down
higher chance
and the 6x00xts
tank the gpu market
spice prawn
but not in enough quantity (total number wise) to really make a dent in things yet @eternal locust
past crown
resellers will be forced to sell for less
stoic marten
past crown
is it a blower style?
i personally really like the blower style cards but the thermals
you mean gtx
eternal locust
Ahh @spice prawn so it's a slight restock probably in random mornings which is sold instantly?
spice prawn
restock can happen at any time
spice prawn
at any point that there are active warehouse workers a restock can happen
past crown
i lowkey wanna get a job and my license early so i can “not close the hatch and let a 3070 or a few fall out and be “broken”” so i dont have to pay
not stealing
its “broken” remember
spice prawn
not how that works
past crown
if the box is damaged or has something on it they sell it for lower than msrp
spice prawn
not really
depends on the shop
it can also just be put in the "for inhouse build"pile
past crown
my nearest microcenter does
wait
companies have “piles” of stuff thats not market grade?
spice prawn
ofc they do
pastel quarry
My nearest microcenter is like 5 hours away and they have better deals than online
But I'm not old enough to drive
past crown
so what if i work at nvidia and “forget” to put the heatsink on the card and i just happened to “accidentally” make a extra heatsink and just toss em aside
thats not a felon right?
neither am i
still got 1 year and some months
my nearest microcenter is like 3 is
pastel quarry
How the heck would you forget to put a heat sink on a card
spice prawn
@past crown your supervisor would have some very harsh words for you.
past crown
but, id still get me a “defective” 3070
spice prawn
no, it would not
eternal locust
@spice prawn you probably don't know but have you heard anything on the release of the RX 6700XT? I know I haven't but I'd expect it in maybe December
spice prawn
because it would be checked. because you as a worker clearly are lacking in your training, so everything you would be doing would be double and triple checked @past crown
fathom bear
Someone clearly has never heard of quality assurance
eternal locust
Nah they gonna have something along those lines to a 6700XT likely in the 300-400 price range
spice prawn
that is just normal procedure for any production
past crown
mhm
spice prawn
@eternal locust re: 6700xt: it will come at some point. But i dont think amd are in a super rush to push it out
eternal locust
So maybe don't count on it
eternal locust
It does
past crown
ok
eternal locust
The b550 should too
past crown
pcpartpicker says theres a incompatibility but im pretty sure thas cap
spice prawn
IF the stock of the 6800/6800xt/6900 is VERY good and just keeps on being VERY good. Then they might push forward with the 6700xt (or whatever it will be called) at an earlier date
spice prawn
x570, just like b550 has support IF the AGESA is the right version on the board
past crown
next
eternal locust
Meh I should just to try and get a 3070 then
The 6800 and XT are kinda more money than I wanna spend and I don't have any 5000 series cpus to make it worth it
spice prawn
@eternal locust elaborate on the logic there, Because that didnt make sense on my end
past crown
so lets say i buy my b550 around december, it should be zen 3 ready right?
spice prawn
in theory yes
eternal locust
Price range is the motive @spice prawn
And I pointed I don't have say a 5600x to pair with a 6000 series to get the set combo performance boost lol
eternal locust
Yeah exactly
eternal locust
When you have all the gear in the artifact set and get the bonus attributes
spice prawn
the 6800 (non-XT) is 580 usd. and i doubt you will find a 3070 below that
ofc, you could be lucky. but yeah :)
eternal locust
I mean
past crown
if you can get them for msrp
but the skalpers and bot users are gonna target the 6x00 series and not the 30x0 as much
eternal locust
Statistically no you probably won't get one under 580 especially if it's a 3rd party sellers
But msrp then you chillin and also lucky
spice prawn
so, you just answered your own question :)
foggy crag
I went from a evga 1070 sc to a zotac rtx 2060 super mini and all went well and I downloaded the latest nvidia game ready driver and 2 hours later I turned off my pc and turned it back on and my monitor only goes to a black screen with a white "_"
fathom bear
Scalped 3070s are coming down in price
Stock outlook looks good for those cards imo
3080, not so much.
foggy crag
Can someone help me
fathom bear
If you tell us what you need help with
spice prawn
ask your question and if someone knows the answer/wants to help. They will answer @foggy crag
fathom bear
Naed is just playing with you. He has all the answers 😛
spice prawn
cant answer what isnt asked thou.
spice prawn
a guess, by its very nature, is just that, a guess.
spice prawn
we know
main rapids
@foggy crag Did you put the 1070 back in the system and did it work? You might have a power supply issue or lose power cable to your video card? It doesn't seem like it will POST so it doesn't seem to recognize your Video Card after reboot.
quartz gull
1080p 165hz as primary display, 8600k @5.2ghz as processor, should I upgrade from 2060 to 3070
rose adder
What games
past crown
u play
lethal ember
Hey guys
fathom bear
@quartz gull Probably not worth it unless you buy a better monitor
Depends on what games you play
quartz gull
I was seeing 2060 supers going for $280-300 on facebook marketplace so it seems a little pricey but not a bad price
hollow heath
Yeah
hollow heath
Why is the EVGA 2070 XC Ultra so overpriced tho lmao
past crown
yeah
spice prawn
re: 2070 price: because the channel is drying up.
hollow heath
The channel is drying up?
spice prawn
not enough stock of even the old stock to keep up with demand
= the retail channel (the network/chain of companies involved from the manufacturer to you)
zealous cairn
i have a problem
i got the 3070
and i also got the ryzen 9 5800x
but my motherboard is not updatied
and i dont have an older cpu
what do i do
spice prawn
depends on your mainboard model @zealous cairn
zealous cairn
my mobo is msi b550-pro
but its older
like 3 months
how do i do a bios update
Hell?
Hello*?
spice prawn
by having at least a bit of patience
spice prawn
breathe and give me a minute here :)
spice prawn
i know, you told me already :)
zealous cairn
i didnt write A
spice prawn
and do you have a usb stick and access to another machine?
spice prawn
good enough
zealous cairn
ok
spice prawn
you on the laptop now?
zealous cairn
yes
zealous cairn
then what im there
spice prawn
download the first one
spice prawn
now, open the folder that you downloaded that file to
zealous cairn
ok
left oar
man for somebody that's asking for help you're kind of demanding... nobody is obligated to help you
spice prawn
@left oar how about you mind your own :)
spice prawn
plug in the usb stick
zealous cairn
done
spice prawn
anything on it?
spice prawn
please extract the contents of the zip file you just downloaded TO the usb stick
spice prawn
and if possible, i would like a screenshot to verify that you got it the right way around :)
zealous cairn
how, snipping tool
spice prawn
aye
spice prawn
winkey + shift + s
zealous cairn
ok
spice prawn
then just drag around the window and press ctrl+v here
spice prawn
send in a dm to me
zealous cairn
did u get it
spice prawn
fixed in a DM.
crisp scarab
Why doesn't newegg use a captcha, or some kind of antibot measures?
3080's were dipping in and out of stock, they were literally gone within seconds, the pny card i saw go live
was gone once I hit add to cart
spice prawn
they do use a bot system. if you have a problem with it, take it up with newegg itself
we cannot do anything about it here
brave wind
anyone every played im up, they see me, im down in the military? thats what i feel like just happened with the gpus that came into stock and were gone before 2 minutes was up
delicate silo
im a ceo of walmart andi got the new radeon cards i am a 4 yaesr olkd aand i make thw3eswese aseasdcasrascds crads poform lioke brand new;''
orchid loom
@delicate silo English
orchid loom
Hmm I don’t understand what your saying
granite sky
Anyone know a good gpu for 500
scarlet lance
3070 if you can get a restock
past crown
3070 if you can find one for msrp
if not then a 2070s
5700xt quite cheaper but still nice
hollow heath
2070S> 5700XT any day
wicked hound
9% more raster perf for 25% more cost is usually not worth it
RT perf is still pretty abysmal on a 2070S, only a decent recommendation for NVENC
wicked hound
which are 99.7% fixed
hollow heath
EHHHHH
hollow heath
I have a Red Devil
hollow heath
Right now it's a brick
zenith lagoon
How?
hollow heath
I play games and stream and listen to music for a while
Then my game freezes for like 3 seconds and my PC restarts
zenith lagoon
Tuff lol
Ur card is detective
Defective
Return it
Or install the latest drivers
hollow heath
I'm returning it
hollow heath
Getting a 2070 
past crown
super?