graphics-cards

[fathom bear]

The website traffic will be your worst enemy.

[agile parrot]

But you might be like me and have to wait 3 weeks fighting them before you get a card

Good luck everyone going for the card

[fathom bear]

I know. I've been trying to get a 3080 since launch.

[quasi geyser]

Maybe now bots might matter. Imo they should have waited until launch day at least to put up the listings

[fathom bear]

I'd rather get a 3070, but 3080 would do.

[agile parrot]

Thats how I was with the 3090, I almost got a pre-built just for the 3090

But I waited a day and then snagged an FE from best buy

3080 that is

[fathom bear]

Still no shipment?

[agile parrot]

I have it

[fathom bear]

Oh, congrats.

[agile parrot]

My baby lol

[fathom bear]

I can appreciate those noctua fans

[agile parrot]

Thx, I thought they were 120mm when I placed the order

[crimson urchin]

will nvidia cards work with freesync monitors

[agile parrot]

But 92mm will work

[quasi geyser]

Is that the Kraken X63? I was planning on getting it for my new build

@crimson urchin Certain models.

[fathom bear]

@crimson urchin Yes, but freesync won't work.

[clear frigate]

best of luck those trying to get their cards tomorrow

[crimson urchin]

@quasi geyser i have a 1660 super will that work?

[agile parrot]

Yes kraken x63, 280mm

Hottest I've seen it get was 45°c

[quasi geyser]

Sorry, I meant it depends on the monitor. @crimson urchin

Nvidia now does support freesync, but only on the higher-end monitors iirc

[agile parrot]

Yes, I have a Dell 24 inch gaming freesync monitor but it's gsync capable

I'm getting the Samsung g5 32 inch 1440p freesync, it had little to no reviews but I'm almost certain it's gsync compatible

[quasi geyser]

Oh what I meant was, Nvidia adopted support for FreeSync about a year ago

But due to software limitations, it only works with higher-end monitors

Gsync is its own thing of course, Nvidia supports all Gsync monitors

[crimson urchin]

@quasi geyser this is the one i purchased https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B08GYFQD6L/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

[agile parrot]

It is

[quasi geyser]

Oh alright

Yeah you’re good

[agile parrot]

Remember tho, you need display port for gsync. I had a friend with a gsync monitor and no display port

[midnight current]

should i buy a 3080 or a 6800xt

[crimson urchin]

will display port to hdmi work?

[agile parrot]

No

[midnight current]

no

[quasi geyser]

@midnight current Wait for third party benchmarks, I would say
I wouldn’t trust AMD alone

[agile parrot]

Display port to display port only

[midnight current]

ok i was waiting to buy until next year

[quasi geyser]

Yeah we’ll know by then

[midnight current]

ok

[agile parrot]

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B078HVDMW2/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_i_dlC_cIHMFbYBNVGRT?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1@crimson urchin

That's the one I'm currently using, just ordered a 2nd one

@crimson urchin

[crimson urchin]

alright

[fathom bear]

Alright so b and h only has two cards, Amazon only has two cards, and micro center is in-store only

[agile parrot]

What about best buy

[fathom bear]

Best buy will probably get eaten alive by bots

That leaves newegg

[agile parrot]

Yeah you're right

[quasi geyser]

Your best bet is to go camp outside micro center tbh

[fathom bear]

I have to work tomorrow

[quasi geyser]

Understandable lol

[agile parrot]

Friends come in handy there lol

[fathom bear]

I don't think anyone I'm friends with is willing to camp outside microcenter (I'm not)

[agile parrot]

You right

Plus the line probably started already

[fathom bear]

Yep

[agile parrot]

Since this is the card that most people anticipated

[quasi geyser]

The nearest micro center is 75 miles away from me lmao

[fathom bear]

20 miles from me

Not too bad

[restive grove]

RTX 3070 failed to launch already?

[quasi geyser]

Nah

Some of the listings are up though

[agile parrot]

I'm in far west Texas, the nearest microcenter is in Denver lol gotta love how big Texas is

[restive grove]

I thought I wanted one, only to find I was better off with a 3080

[quasi geyser]

There’s not a single micro center in my entire state

[fathom bear]

Your pc or your wallet? 😛

[rich oasis]

Imagine buying a 3080

Laughs in 6800xt

[quasi geyser]

This post was made by the Titan RTX gang

[restive grove]

at $699. sure, but I'll pay a scalper a penny

[rich oasis]

Oh your one of the “the 3089/3090” is so hard to get

People who dont get them are lazy

Or dont have time for it

[fathom bear]

????

[agile parrot]

Yeah what's with the salt lol

[restive grove]

I was in line for the Best Buy failed launch, no cards and I got a laugh at a bunch of guys leering a guys model girlfriend before nerding down for a sit-in...

[quasi geyser]

That’s how it be sometimes
smh

[agile parrot]

Actually the top 4 closest microcenters are Denver, Fort worth, L.A, Houston

Crazy the closest is 2 states away and the farthest is the same state

[restive grove]

Best Buy pushed all their RTX online so there is no hope.

[rich oasis]

Its easy to get them online tbh

[fathom bear]

Why is your name a link to pcpp?

[agile parrot]

Then get one and sell it to someone here lol

[quasi geyser]

No, scalping sucks :/

[agile parrot]

Not scalped

[quasi geyser]

Finessed

[agile parrot]

But he can get one cause it's easy

[fathom bear]

I'm ready

[quasi geyser]

Go get ‘em bro

[agile parrot]

Do you have the app open too on your phone

[fathom bear]

Not yet, but I will

[agile parrot]

Open another tab you might need it

[restive grove]

I was ready but I gave up on buying a RTX and built a 2nd pc

[fathom bear]

Dw I'll just download more ram

Chrome is fine

[fathom bear]

Only 2gb for 30 tabs. I'm good.

[hidden spear]

Does anyone know if we are allowed to sell in this discord?

Sorry I’m new and don’t want to break rules

[green harness]

#rules

[atomic tangle]

Think i changed my mind on the 3070

[fathom bear]

Oh?

[atomic tangle]

The 6800xt looks pretty sexy

[fathom bear]

You may not be at the liberty to chose, at least for launch

[atomic tangle]

i know

[lone pond]

I’m not getting the regular 6800xt

because it doesn’t go well with my build

[ruby wraith]

Whats a graphic card

[lone pond]

Ok

Don’t be me when I first joined this server

[ruby wraith]

But im genuinely curious?

Would you recommend a PC or a computer?

[neon lava]

a ipad

[sharp canopy]

ignore it

[raven fog]

should i wait for the 3080 fe to have a stable stock or get the 3070 tomorrow

[blissful tiger]

LOL like you're gonna be able to get a 3070 tomorrow

[surreal tartan]

AMD RADEON RX 6800 XT

NOVEMBER 18TH

[fathom bear]

@raven fog Do you have a monitor already?

[visual jasper]

hey, is it just me or right after amd showd their new gpu theirs more rtx 3080 now

[quasi geyser]

Nvidia in panic mode?

[fathom bear]

Why would they be in panic mode? There's more market than either company can use right now

[quasi geyser]

Idk, maybe they know the 3070 launch is gonna be a disaster?

[fathom bear]

It wouldn't surprise me haha

[quasi geyser]

Same here

I hope not

But I think deep down we all have that feeling

[fathom bear]

I don't think it can get much worse than the 3080 launch

[quasi geyser]

True

[raven fog]

@raven fog Do you have a monitor already?
@fathom bear yeh i already do. I have a samsung g9 ultrawide and an ultrasharp 8k

[fathom bear]

Terrible joke my friend

[raven fog]

ok better question. When do you think the 3080 FE stock is going to be stable?

[proper jungle]

After December is what they said

So probably some time next year

[raven fog]

really?

wait who said that?

[proper jungle]

Nvidia

[raven fog]

i just want to know

could u should me if possible

sorry if im troubling u

[proper jungle]

Yeah give me a min

[quasi geyser]

I think they admitted Samsung’s foundries weren’t producing them as fast as they needed to

I could be wrong but I think that was a driving factor behind the whole launch disaster

[proper jungle]

@raven fog

It was in a press q and a

[fathom bear]

You don't get to disconnect supply and demand like that lol

"It's not a supply issue"

[raven fog]

bruh

will the 3080 fe be produced for a limited time

[proper jungle]

“We didn’t expect this demand”

[raven fog]

or will it continue until like the summer of next year

cause i really just want the 3080 FE instead of other 3rd party brands

[proper jungle]

It was obviously going to sell out

Same @raven fog

It’s kinda clean

[raven fog]

and i'm worried nvidia won't make anymore

so i have to spend double the price to get a gpu

sigh*

thanks for that info though @proper jungle

[quasi geyser]

I don’t really see why they would stop making them

[crisp ocean]

If I want the highest chance of getting a GPU how should I get one and from where

[raven fog]

the 3080 fe was on stock today on bestbuy and as i tried to get it, the bots bought it just like that

[quasi geyser]

Best Buy is flooded with bots

Avoid it if you can

[raven fog]

yeh

they really need the "can only purchase one" thing

[crisp ocean]

My best bets are going to be Newegg and Amazon but Amazon removed all the listings

[raven fog]

it would somewhat solve the issue

[quasi geyser]

Or maybe just have a captcha on the add to cart screen

[raven fog]

yeh exactly

[proper jungle]

I’m so sad I’m not gonna get a card cause they can’t get their stuff together

[raven fog]

it's so ironic that nvidia, the company that makes the most advanced tech, can't think of these simple solutions to stop bots

[proper jungle]

They’re a tech company for Christ’s sakes

[crisp ocean]

If I’m going to buy from Newegg would the app or website be better

[quasi geyser]

Honestly I don’t think they care

A sale is a sale

[raven fog]

ofc they don't

[proper jungle]

Is Newegg selling for cards

[raven fog]

yeah

[crisp ocean]

Yeah they are

[raven fog]

but not the fe

[crisp ocean]

FE is at micro center or Best Buy

[raven fog]

so like the asus, msi, etc

[crisp ocean]

Best Buy I guess is a no now

[fathom bear]

@crisp ocean https://kb.newegg.com/knowledge-base/rtx-30-series-faq/?cm_sp=KB-_-INFOCARD-_-3070-_-kb_USA_rtx-_-1

[proper jungle]

They aren’t selling fe at micro center

[quasi geyser]

Honestly your absolute best bet at getting a card is camping out at a micro center

It’ll be an AIB

[proper jungle]

I asked an employee today

[quasi geyser]

But you’ll get one

[raven fog]

oh really

[proper jungle]

Yeah:/

[quasi geyser]

I’m sure there’s already people lined up to get one

[proper jungle]

Yeah he told me there were 10 when he left at my local micro center

[quasi geyser]

Really it’s a shame this stuff isn’t more readily available in physical stores

Bots don’t work irl

[crisp ocean]

@crisp ocean https://kb.newegg.com/knowledge-base/rtx-30-series-faq/?cm_sp=KB-_-INFOCARD-_-3070-_-kb_USA_rtx-_-1
@fathom bear thanks, I’m also going to try Amazon too

[raven fog]

what if...the bestbuy employees are buying the cards before they put it into stock|| jk||

[fathom bear]

Amazon has very few cards listed

[crisp ocean]

I went to Best Buy today lmaooo

[proper jungle]

You know all the employees are

[raven fog]

hahaha

those employees

[proper jungle]

But Best Buy is only doing online orders

[raven fog]

really be doing that

^^

[crisp ocean]

Ah damn

[fathom bear]

To be fair

[crisp ocean]

Best Buy has no bot protection right?

[fathom bear]

They can make more money scalping a 3080

[quasi geyser]

None at all

[proper jungle]

Does Best Buy have any security at all

[fathom bear]

Than they make in a week at best buy

[quasi geyser]

Nope

[proper jungle]

Welp I guess I’ll wait

[crisp ocean]

Does Amazon?

[proper jungle]

All I need is a gpu

[quasi geyser]

Nah, also Amazon has one click order

[fathom bear]

Newegg is your best option

[quasi geyser]

It’s even easier

[proper jungle]

I have everything else for my first build

[raven fog]

same

all i need is that 3080 to complete the build

[proper jungle]

Yeah I might just wait for that

[raven fog]

i bet u the case is already dusty

[quasi geyser]

I kinda got scammed with my build
I bought everything at a time when it was super expensive

[proper jungle]

If i can’t get 3070 first

At this point I’ll get whatever I can first

[raven fog]

the 3070 in my opinion is not worth the wait

[proper jungle]

Except for 3090 that’s way to much for me

[raven fog]

it's literally a 2080 ti but sometimes worse

[quasi geyser]

And my very first build? All I could afford was a single fan 1050 ti because of the crypto mining boom

[raven fog]

bruh

[quasi geyser]

I was like 14

Not a lot of cash to spend

[crisp ocean]

Cards are listed now

[quasi geyser]

I think I dropped like 600 total on the build

[proper jungle]

What state you guys in

[fathom bear]

@crisp ocean Which site?

[crisp ocean]

Newegg lmao

[fathom bear]

Yeah... lol

[quasi geyser]

AMD wants to win the GPU war? All they need is a captcha lmao

Instant victory by public opinion

[fathom bear]

Newegg has good bot protection

[proper jungle]

So do these drop at 6am pt exactly or what’s the deal

[raven fog]

the new amd gpu gonna be worse than the 3080 release and i can't even imagine that

[quasi geyser]

@proper jungle 6 am pacific time

[raven fog]

So do these drop at 6am pt exactly or what’s the deal
@proper jungle yes

[quasi geyser]

Exactly

[proper jungle]

Oh ok

[fathom bear]

They will most likely drop throughout the day as well

[proper jungle]

How long do I have to checkout

[quasi geyser]

A couple of seconds

[fathom bear]

30 seconds

[raven fog]

like i said, the 3070 is way too overhyped

just wait for the 3080 fe to have a stable stock

[proper jungle]

Wow I need to memorize my credit card number fast

[raven fog]

which is in like 3 months

[plucky fossil]

3070 overhyped?

tf

[raven fog]

and 3 months goes by just like that

[quasi geyser]

@proper jungle Autofill?

[plucky fossil]

3070 is literally 2080 for

$500

[proper jungle]

True I’ll do that

Is there a way to set that up in settings

[fathom bear]

I use paypal

[raven fog]

the 3070 is really good for the price i must admit but u could get an even better gpu that only costs an extra 200

[fathom bear]

But Apple pay is even better

[proper jungle]

For real

[raven fog]

and it's not that far away from having a stable stock

[proper jungle]

Ok so what do I do

[raven fog]

like i said, only 3 months minimum

[fathom bear]

Price to performance is better with 3070

[raven fog]

imo, i would wait for the 3080 fe to go on a stable stock

[quasi geyser]

@proper jungle Autofill or PayPal, multiple tabs open, practice your reaction time.

[plucky fossil]

Not everyone has that budget. There's a big difference between $500 and $700. Also you need to make sure you don't bottleneck your CPU & power supply @raven fog

[quasi geyser]

^

[raven fog]

Not everyone has that budget. There's a big difference between $500 and $700. Also you need to make sure you don't bottleneck your CPU & power supply @raven fog
@plucky fossil yeh i just realized that

[crisp ocean]

I have a credit card saved lol

Hope that’s enough for Amazon I got one click

[raven fog]

bottlenecking is a big problem lol

[fathom bear]

Not everyone wants to spend $700 either

[proper jungle]

What about a 3080 and i7 9700k

That’s what I have

[fathom bear]

That's a lot of money to drop on games

[raven fog]

that's ok

[plucky fossil]

So what's your methods for getting a 3070?

I'm using mobile

[proper jungle]

Speed

[fathom bear]

@plucky fossil Apple pay

[quasi geyser]

In my new build I’m going r5 5600x and either the 3070 or 6800 depending on benchmarks

[proper jungle]

I might try to get help

[raven fog]

wake up turn on that pc and warm it up so it can run flawlessly

[quasi geyser]

Practice on cookie clicker

[raven fog]

cookie clicker?

[proper jungle]

They already dropped some benchmarks for the 3070

[quasi geyser]

See how fast you can hit refresh @raven fog

[proper jungle]

Are you waiting for the 6800 drop too

[quasi geyser]

I’m waiting for the benchmarks

I wasn’t gonna build my pc for a couple months anyway

[proper jungle]

I gotta bind all my keys for different parts of the checkout

Lol

[quasi geyser]

I would consider using time.gov to find the exact moment the clock hits 6 am

[proper jungle]

True

[quasi geyser]

That’s the official US time as determined by NIST

[proper jungle]

I’m mtn time where you guys?

[quasi geyser]

Eastern

[proper jungle]

Oh cool yours is at 9 right

[quasi geyser]

Yeah

[proper jungle]

Well best of luck to everyone here

[fathom bear]

Indeed

[raven fog]

is the performance difference between the 3080 and 3070 significant

[proper jungle]

I guess I’m not gonna try Best Buy anymore

[quasi geyser]

Tbh I think the launch should be staggered, not simultaneous

[raven fog]

significant as in like 20+ more frames

[quasi geyser]

Like it should drop at everyone’s 6 am

[proper jungle]

Yeah

[quasi geyser]

That would help with the traffic problem

[mystic wadi]

newegg the only site that combats bots right?

[quasi geyser]

Pretty much

[proper jungle]

Bro we could make up the nvidia management team

[mystic wadi]

its good to see them doing this to help out

well goodluck to everyone

[proper jungle]

Same to you

[raven fog]

Bro we could make up the nvidia management team
@proper jungle yesss

[proper jungle]

Anyone at a micro center

[raven fog]

i might go there tomorrow

[quasi geyser]

Yeah I’m not in the race, but good luck bros
You got this

[mystic wadi]

microcenter here at chicago not letting anyone camp out

[raven fog]

i'll stream it tomorrow if u want

[mystic wadi]

i'm going at 5am tho to stick around

[proper jungle]

Oh really so you just sit in your car or so@ething

[raven fog]

nah

[mystic wadi]

3 hours before should be ok right? lmfao

[raven fog]

u gotta live at microcenter to get one

[proper jungle]

I might get up at 3 or 4

[raven fog]

no

3 hours is too little

more like 3 days

like literally

[proper jungle]

I kinda want the fe

[mystic wadi]

same

[raven fog]

me too

[quasi geyser]

The fe is a dope card

[proper jungle]

I’ll try Best Buy and Newegg

[mystic wadi]

only one that will fit in my itx build

[raven fog]

the fe looks so cleann

[quasi geyser]

Really efficient cooling design too

[proper jungle]

I know

[mystic wadi]

MAN YOU GUYS WANT IT FOR LOOKS WHILE ITS THE ONLY ONE I CAN GET LMAO

that'll fit

[quasi geyser]

Man I can’t get it period lmao

I gotta wait until my tax refund

[raven fog]

and this might sound stupid but the white light that illuminates the rtx 3080 logo can make my all white pc looks cooler

[quasi geyser]

In like January

[proper jungle]

I considered staying the night at micro center until I found out they don’t have the fe

[mystic wadi]

actually the zotac 2 fan one will fit in my build

[proper jungle]

@raven fog it will look really good with the white

[mystic wadi]

im going for Founders at bestbuy and Zotac for newegg

[raven fog]

yeh exactly

[proper jungle]

Too bad the 3070 doesn’t support it

[raven fog]

ikr

why can't the 3070 have one

[proper jungle]

Not like I’m getting one anyway☠️

[raven fog]

me too

[mystic wadi]

cause it's the "budget" one

[raven fog]

lmao

budget

imagine

[mystic wadi]

watch them come out with 3070 super like 4 months later

lmao

[proper jungle]

I’ve really been considering the 3080 because I have more time to make money

You already know that’s gonna happen

[raven fog]

wasn't there leaks on the 3080 ti?

i thought i saw that somewhere

[proper jungle]

Yeah I think so

Same

[raven fog]

but if that thing is $1200 then im out

[quasi geyser]

For whatever reason they’re pretty sure it’s gonna happen

[raven fog]

my approx^

[proper jungle]

How they gonna make it 1200???

After this experience

[quasi geyser]

Cuz they know people will pay

[proper jungle]

I thought this was gonna be great

[raven fog]

huang really be like that sometimes

[proper jungle]

Especially for my first build

[quasi geyser]

Oh nah leatherman fumbled the ball this time

[proper jungle]

I had higher expectations for nvidia

[raven fog]

they need to make it expensive because it's their only way to solve the bot problem even though there are so many other options

i just think nvidia is stupid like that sometimes

so i had to make it $1200 as my approx

[proper jungle]

Like some captcha

[raven fog]

yeh but nvidia don't care

[proper jungle]

Yeah that’s probably reasonable

Did you try for the 3080

[raven fog]

huang needs to listen to the customers

yep

and i got mad

as hell

[proper jungle]

What happened

Did it crash

[plucky fossil]

Dude I'm so ready to get this card. I've beeen sooooooo patient. I'm getting the Asus Dual edition of the 3070

[proper jungle]

Or was it already out of stock

[raven fog]

so basically i woke up 1 hour prior to keep my mental state awake

[proper jungle]

Yeah I’ve been waiting for 4 months to do this build

[raven fog]

i had like 6 clocks from various of websites

[proper jungle]

Smh

Wow

[raven fog]

and had 5 bestbuy tabs open

[plucky fossil]

I literally changed out my whole power supply and cpu for this gpu

[raven fog]

and 2 nvidia tabs

[round cosmos]

Guys if anyone wants a 3080, 2 of them are available rn on Newegg. They’ve been in stock for like 30 minutes (one is ASUS and the other is EVGA)

[proper jungle]

Well we don’t need nvidia tabs anymore

[plucky fossil]

are you serious??

[mortal thistle]

less demand now,

amd is better

[round cosmos]

There’s also a 3090 available

[raven fog]

once the time has struck, i hit refresh and it LITERALLY WENT FROM CHECK AVAILABILITY TO OUT OF STOCK. bestbuy also did the same

[proper jungle]

Wow

I’m gonna try bestbuy for the fe and Newegg

[plucky fossil]

Is newegg allowing for people to get more then one card still?

[proper jungle]

Probably Newegg first right?

[raven fog]

my internet is incredibly fast as well as my pc but i still couldn't get one because of the bots

[kindred lion]

I have a question, so 2060 super or 5700 xt?

[raven fog]

want to see my internet speed

look at that

and the bots beat me

like how

[proper jungle]

Damn

[quasi geyser]

Dude lives at NASA

[dreamy dragon]

CHONKY James#9053 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

[round cosmos]

Why does it sayc 2017

[dreamy dragon]

CHONKY James#9053 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

CHONKY James#9053 has been banned for 10 minutes

Reason: Too many infractions

[unban]

Banned until · Oct 29, 2020, 4:10 AM

[raven fog]

i had it just for reference

[proper jungle]

@quasi geyser he lives on the satellites

[raven fog]

no i don't lol

[round cosmos]

It’s officially the 29th boys

[raven fog]

yup

me too

[proper jungle]

Oh it’s still the 28th for me

[raven fog]

it's 4 am right now

[round cosmos]

They didn’t shadow drop it so that’s good

[proper jungle]

10:02

[quasi geyser]

12 am where I am

[round cosmos]

It’s 7 am where I am lmao

[quasi geyser]

Eastern time gang

[raven fog]

imma do my math hw rn be right back

[kindred lion]

Can any of you answer a question for me about gpus???

[raven fog]

sure

[proper jungle]

Yeah this is the nvidia management team

[quasi geyser]

We’ve done a hell of a better job so far

[kindred lion]

okay so im really indecisive between nvidia 2060 super and the radeon 5700 xt?

[proper jungle]

I don’t know anything about Radeon cards but my cousin has a 2060 super and it works great

[raven fog]

2060 super not gonna lie is pretty good but it depends on the game ur playing of course

[quasi geyser]

Oh wait the super

Hold on

[kindred lion]

well i currently play console so thats what im struggling with cuase idk what games im gonna play lmao

[proper jungle]

Halo for starters

[kindred lion]

ofc

[proper jungle]

Probably csgo

[kindred lion]

nah

[raven fog]

csgo lol

[proper jungle]

It’s free

[kindred lion]

i tried csgo at a friends house

didnt like it

[raven fog]

yep

[proper jungle]

Oh

[raven fog]

cold war?

idk

[quasi geyser]

Halo is godly

[raven fog]

nah nah nah

[quasi geyser]

https://gpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/Nvidia-RTX-2060S-Super-vs-AMD-RX-5700-XT/4049vs4045

[proper jungle]

Master chief is legendary

[raven fog]

u gotta get maxed out specs to play fortnite 😉

[proper jungle]

What do you play on console

[kindred lion]

@quasi geyser thank you i will look at that

[proper jungle]

Doom

[kindred lion]

like gta doom cod minecraft ofc

love minecraft

lol

[quasi geyser]

Oh btw I don’t think this benchmark measures ray tracing performance

[kindred lion]

but i obviously need a really good gpu for minecraft

[raven fog]

imagine getting good specs to play fortnite

[proper jungle]

Those would be great on pc

[raven fog]

imagine getting a pc and not even using it

[proper jungle]

Ofc Minecraft requires the best of the best

[raven fog]

yes it really does

[proper jungle]

Lol that’s me

[raven fog]

haha same

[kindred lion]

Yeah thats another thing, so raytracing like should I really be concerned about having that or not?

[proper jungle]

Let me send a pic of what I have

[raven fog]

my pc parts are literally getting dusty

[proper jungle]

I was gonna build tomorrow

I just got case today

[quasi geyser]

Alright I’m gonna go to sleep
Good luck with the 3070 everyone

[kindred lion]

yes plz send pic

[proper jungle]

Goodnight

[kindred lion]

goodnight @quasi geyser thank you for article 🙂

[plucky fossil]

Man just let me spend my money nvidia

[misty shoal]

3070 is at 9 am right

because ive been reloading

[plucky fossil]

depending on where you are

[proper jungle]

Yep

[misty shoal]

9 am est

[proper jungle]

Then yes

[misty shoal]

which should i get

[plucky fossil]

And no its like in 11 hours

idk

Im getting the Newegg.com
https://www.newegg.com/asus-geforce-rtx-3070-dual-rtx3070-8g/p/N82E16814126460

[proper jungle]

What were you debating between

[misty shoal]

mainy these

https://www.newegg.com/msi-geforce-rtx-3070-rtx-3070-ventus-3x-oc/p/N82E16814137601?Description=rtx 3070&cm_re=rtx_3070-_-14-137-601-_-Product&quicklink=true

[proper jungle]

Is there an fe on Newegg cause I don’t think there is

[misty shoal]

https://www.newegg.com/gigabyte-geforce-rtx-3070-gv-n3070eagle-oc-8gd/p/N82E16814932343?Description=rtx 3070&cm_re=rtx_3070-_-14-932-343-_-Product#

no

fe is only at bestbuy

idk which card to get

what are you guys getting

[proper jungle]

I want the fe but highly doubt I can get it

[misty shoal]

it would be hard to get

[proper jungle]

What do you think of aibs

[misty shoal]

depends on the card

and price

there are some pretty good msrp ones

[proper jungle]

Yeah

I don’t know if I want to get an aib or an fe

[eternal briar]

yo

[proper jungle]

I’d probably have to wait on the fe

Hey

What up

[misty shoal]

lol newegg wont let me put a best buy link

[eternal briar]

just got a 5700xt i installed my drivers and that stuff but my gpu fans are at 0rpm and i dont have a zero rpm setting

[misty shoal]

this one is really good it just doesnt have a backplate EVGA - GeForce RTX 3070 XC3 BLACK GAMING 8GB GDDR6X PCI Express 4.0 Graphics Card

@eternal briar does it have a bios switch?

on the card

[proper jungle]

I have to install all my drivers and stuff tomorrow

I wish I could have a card for free like the tech review channels

They don’t even have to think about waiting

[eternal briar]

lemme check rq

[misty shoal]

if it does dont switch it unless your pc is shut down

[kindred lion]

okay ive decided to get the 5700xt, but now im wondering what graphics card to get and does it really matter all that much?

[misty shoal]

nooooooo dont

[kindred lion]

cause dont they like all run the same its really just temperature?

hm?

[misty shoal]

6800 is about to come out and is MUCH better

or rtx 3070

[kindred lion]

how much tho

im balling on a budget

[misty shoal]

3070 is 500 6800 is 570

[royal copper]

why not wait for new cards

[kindred lion]

cause im poor

[royal copper]

3070 launch tmrw and amd cards just announce

[misty shoal]

3060 ti is rumored to be 400

[kindred lion]

i only have like 1000 for this pc

[misty shoal]

wait for 3060 ti in mid november

[kindred lion]

okay

[royal copper]

it possible to fit a 500usd card in a 1000 build i suppose

[misty shoal]

eh kinda

[royal copper]

can be tight for some components

[misty shoal]

id wait for 3060 Ti

for 400

[kindred lion]

will it be before nov 20th?

[misty shoal]

probably

[royal copper]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[lone pond]

wait i have pcie 3.0 motherboard and the rtx 30series is pcie 4.0 so i cant use any 30 series card?

[kindred lion]

cause it would be sick if i can get it on sale for cyber monday

[misty shoal]

somewhere in mid november

[fervent obsidian]

you can fit a 3070 in a 1k build

might be more like 1030 but it fits

[misty shoal]

you can

[royal copper]

pcie is backwards compatible

4.0 card will work in 3.0 slot

[lone pond]

am i going to lose any performance

[misty shoal]

not really

[lone pond]

like noticeable

[royal copper]

if so, very little

[misty shoal]

no

[kindred lion]

yeha i can expand the budget by like 100 bucks

but id rather not

cause i dont even have enough for a monitor yet lol

[misty shoal]

what cpu

[kindred lion]

so im just gonna have a built pc and work my ass off for another 3 months ot get monior

im looking at a few

[fervent obsidian]

a monitor doesn't cost too much more

1080p 144hz is 150

[kindred lion]

ryzen 7 2700x

[misty shoal]

id go with r5 3600

[kindred lion]

or ryzen 5 3600 i think it is

[misty shoal]

for gaming

[kindred lion]

yeah

[royal copper]

3600 for gaming, 2700x for compute

[misty shoal]

^

[kindred lion]

but tbh i like the cool rgb stock coole rin the 7

lmao

ik that doesnt matter

[royal copper]

tho idk how much prices have changed recently

[misty shoal]

lol

[royal copper]

there are also the new amd cpus

[misty shoal]

you can get a pretty good deal on a 3600

[fervent obsidian]

you could do something like an r5 3600 + 3060 which should be around 900 total

whenever the 3060 comes out

and put the rest towards monitor?

idk

[misty shoal]

prob r5 3600 and 3060 ti

since 3060 ti is leaked

[kindred lion]

yeha but hten ima psen 100 on psu mother board ram and m2 plus case??

[royal copper]

you can save a lot of money going with a amd cpu with stock cooler, not prettiest but it works perfectly fine stock speeds. not that you would want to oc on ryzen much anyway

[kindred lion]

spend*

[fervent obsidian]

psu would be cheaper on a budget build along with other things

[misty shoal]

wraith coolers arent bad

[fervent obsidian]

mp34 512gb = 62 ish

psu would be around 70

case 60

ram 75

[misty shoal]

im (trying to) getting a 3070 so my build will prob have a slight bottleneck

[royal copper]

mp34, sn750 and sx8200 pro are all good options now

[fervent obsidian]

everything bottlenecks you'll be fine

yeah

[kindred lion]

what is a bottle neck too?

like i kinda know what it is

[royal copper]

also if this not much gpu anymore maybe move to #building-and-recc-chat

[kindred lion]

but like not really

[raven fog]

when u have a god like gpu and a trash cpu

[misty shoal]

cpu limits gpu or gpu limits cpu

[raven fog]

the cpu won't produce enough frames and keep up making the gpu worthless

[royal copper]

depends

[misty shoal]

not worthless

[royal copper]

for game ya you dont want to mix something like i3 with 3090

[misty shoal]

just a little less performence

[lone pond]

would a i5 10th gen get bottlenecked by a 3090?

[misty shoal]

in that case no

i dont think so

[royal copper]

bottleneck hard word, but idk

[misty shoal]

probably not in most things

[viral elbow]

honestly prob not, but it's not like we can get it now

[misty shoal]

true

what 3070 aib card should i get still havent really decided

i think i know but I want others opinions

[royal copper]

i generally like evga, but idk how the new gens are. havent seen much of the new stuff yet tbh

[misty shoal]

they have a really good one for 530 but it has no backplate

and one for 560 but thats a little high for me

[kindred lion]

honestly i have enough to buy the 3070 when it comes out should i do that or wiat til black friday but do you think it will be in stock by black friday?

or cyber monday

either otr

or*

[viral elbow]

you'd be lucky if you can get it the 29th when it comes out

[misty shoal]

it wont be in stock black friday

[royal copper]

id think not

[misty shoal]

only chance is tomorrow

[viral elbow]

the 3000series likely won't be in stick until 2021

[kindred lion]

honestly screw my budget really idc ill just buy part as i have the money for them lmao

its fine, everythings fine

[royal copper]

at least do some planning before you buy anything

pcpp

[kindred lion]

yeah i have ive been planning for months

[lone pond]

is it harder to get the nvidia refrence card cuz i like the look of it

[viral elbow]

same

[misty shoal]

bought the same prob

[kindred lion]

but i didn't really have the 3070 in mind until like a few mins ago

but ive looked it up and you guys have convinced me

[royal copper]

what did you originally plan?

[kindred lion]

but other than that ive done pretty extensive research

[misty shoal]

you could wait till 3060 ti

[kindred lion]

5700xt

[royal copper]

how much

[pearl ore]

yo

[kindred lion]

1k budget

[pearl ore]

who can sell me a 1660 ti

[misty shoal]

3060 ti will retail for 400 in november

[royal copper]

how much was the 5700xt

[kindred lion]

the 5700xt was liek 399.99

around there

[royal copper]

no selling in this server optx

[kindred lion]

or the one that i was interested in was

[misty shoal]

yeah for that price id wait for 3060 ti

[kindred lion]

theres definitly more expensive ones but

[royal copper]

not too much budget difference but it your choice

[kindred lion]

is the 3060 ti supposed to be cheaper?

[misty shoal]

400 retail price rumored

[viral elbow]

it's probably below the $500 mark since it's "lower" tier than 3070

[lone pond]

i dont think its probably

[kindred lion]

yeha well if im gonna blow my budget like i might as well get the better one cause chances are the ti is gonna be over 400

[misty shoal]

no because it is worse than 3070

and its leaked to be 400

[kindred lion]

yeha so if its worse ill just get the 3070

[lone pond]

it is worse

[misty shoal]

3070 is 500 3060 ti will be 400

[kindred lion]

do you think its worth the extra 100?

[misty shoal]

depends

what res are you playing on

[kindred lion]

i dont have monitor yet lmao

so i dont really know

[misty shoal]

i see

its really up to you

[fervent obsidian]

1080p most likely is more affordable

for you

cheap 144hz monitor is around 150

[misty shoal]

^

[kindred lion]

yeha

[viral elbow]

yea, 1440p is becoming the new standard but it is still more expensive

[fervent obsidian]

a cheap 1440p 144hz monitor can be usually found around 250, quality ones are usually 300 or up though

[kindred lion]

yeha i was looking at a few

[fervent obsidian]

sceptre usually has the budget friendly 1080p 144hz monitors

i'd check some out

[kindred lion]

yeha i was looking at a few of thiers i liked the curved ones

cause ideally in the future id like 2 monitor set up

[viral elbow]

oh yea that sceptre one is about $158 last time i checked

[kindred lion]

and i feel like curved would be nice for that

and the bezel is okay

[opal onyx]

who wanna sell me a asus rtx 2080 ti white

[kindred lion]

i dont thnk there is selling on this server

[fervent obsidian]

yeah

[dreamy dragon]

Zeqzi#6899 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

[fervent obsidian]

none of that

[opal onyx]

alr

[kindred lion]

yeah there is a server called pc help hub that is good for that stuff

[pearl ore]

where can i buy part?

parts*

[clear frigate]

is a 3060 ti actually confirmed?

[kindred lion]

look on reddit

i guess so

[opal onyx]

im planing on building my first pc if i need help can yall help me out in this server

[kindred lion]

idk i havnt done much research yet other than this conversation

same

[fervent obsidian]

i'd head to #building-and-recc-chat for help with builds

[kindred lion]

https://www.bestbuy.com/site/gigabyte-geforce-rtx-3070-8g-gddr6-pci-express-4-0-graphics-card-black/6437912.p?skuId=6437912 should i get htis one or founders editon?

probably this one right?

[fervent obsidian]

i'm getting an asus tuf 3070 whenever i can

[pearl ore]

so i can't buy partsa on this server?

[fervent obsidian]

nope

[kindred lion]

no

lmoa

[clear frigate]

Nope

[pearl ore]

Damn

Bc im looking for parts rn

[kindred lion]

yeah i saw that one im just trying to get as cheap as possible lmao

[fervent obsidian]

asus tuf should be same price as founders

[kindred lion]

there is a microcenter in boston that i am kinda tempted to go to tommorrow lmao

[fervent obsidian]

i wouldn't be suprised if there was a line already

that's the nearest microcenter for me, and it's 2 hr 30 mins away

[kindred lion]

its like prbaly a little less than a hour away

well probaly a little more cause i will need to use the T but

the one i see on new egg is 559.99

the asus tuf ^

also isnt big navi debuting on xboxseries x which is kinda crazy like console is getting things before pc?

[fervent obsidian]

when even are the consoles releasing

[kindred lion]

around thanksgiving

i just stared looking into it and amd i guess is putting big navi in to the rx 6000

[arctic phoenix]

around the same time as 6800xt is available for sale

[raven fog]

i have a question

how many frames will i get for cyberpunk 2077 with an rtx 3070 with ray-tracing and DLSS and intel i7-8700k at 1080p

[clear frigate]

No one knows game isn't out

Hard to benchmark something like that no?

[kindred lion]

you can use user benchmark to look at other games but cyberpunk 2077 will not be on there

[terse bloom]

Hmm.. Was using GPUcheck to do comparisons between my 1080 and the 3080/3070.
3080 delivers 100% FPS increase, 3070 a 50% FPS increase..
i9-10850K with 1440p monitor.

[vital zephyr]

Would it be worth getting a 1660 Super rn?

[boreal nymph]

id wait for the full release of the cheaper amd cards such as the 6700 and 6700xt because that will gut the prices of the 1660 super

@vital zephyr

also if you have a 1070 why would you ever in the world want a 1660 super

[sage delta]

how should i go about deciding which card i want from the rtx 20 series

im planning on making a mid-tier build in the future and im not sure how to decide what will go well with the build

is there any major differences i should keep in mind

[jaunty mural]

How can you see the rtx 3070 on newegg? I can't see it

[vital zephyr]

also if you have a 1070 why would you ever in the world want a 1660 super
@boreal nymph i want to build my own pc

[boreal nymph]

yeah just pull the parts out of yours and put them in a new case?

unless you dont own your current pc?

[vital zephyr]

nah the one i have rn is a prebuilt

wow the reasoning is bad

but i want to build my own, so im gonna get the stuff for a new pc

and then sell my current one

[spice prawn]

@vital zephyr depending on your budget, it might make more logical sense to reuse the 1070

[marsh charm]

Is it expected that the new 6000 series of GPU’s from AMD will have poor drivers like the others?

[spice prawn]

no

[nimble path]

They have a reputation of bad drivers for a reason

That reason I do not know

[spice prawn]

not really

drivers are drivers

plenty of people curse at the nvidia drivers

plenty of people curse at the intel drivers

etc etc

[nimble path]

There are Intel drivers?

[spice prawn]

ofc there are

[marsh charm]

A lot has to do with different cooling solutions, power transfer, and overclock ability

Some 3080 brands had a bad power transfer and it caused them to crash when overclocking

[fallow vortex]

yall think the 6800 is gonna be good for content creation?

like what i mainly mean by that is modeling

in 3d

and rendering stuff

[quasi geyser]

It’s got plenty of vram, so it should be a solid card in that respect

[fallow vortex]

dooope

[misty shoal]

Whos ready for 3070?

one hour left

[fallow vortex]

6000 series launched changed my mind actually

finna get a 6800

but 3070 is still a really nice and viable card

just getting the 6800 cause it has more vram

[misty shoal]

thats what im hoping happened to a lot of people so it wont sell out as fast

yeah I use blender a lot and radeon cards are barely supported

[fallow vortex]

im hoping the 6000 series is that one exception then

[misty shoal]

its just radeon GPUs in general because they dont have cuda

[fallow vortex]

true

[terse bloom]

@marsh charm is it that important to choose one certain, or whichever
@lone pond
It's honestly not important at all.
They will all basically operate 90% the same.
The 10% difference is mostly from how the cooling is made, and for aesthetics.
So pick whatever one you want.
However, do remember if you're trying to get something at launch, don't be picky or choosey.
Just get whatever. Trying to be picky will just make it harder for you to even get one.

You might see some price differences between models and brands, but a lot of that is just from the "extra cooling fan power", how they "look", and if they're made with "pre-built-in or pre-loaded Overclocking". That, and not to mention brand name.

[spice prawn]

there appears to be a very big range for the retail pricing on the 3070's

[terse bloom]

I mean, ASUS ROG STRIX costs $629.99
which is very close to the price of the 3080's $699.99 models

[spice prawn]

as in, from around 500-700+

[crisp ocean]

How often does Newegg restock, and do they tell us when they do

[terse bloom]

No

No one here knows, and they do not tell us when.

[spice prawn]

and trust me, you dont want that knowledge public info either

[terse bloom]

If they told us when, they might as well let us pre-order, so yeah. They don't tell us.

[spice prawn]

if they published it in public, you would have even less chance of getting it

[spice prawn]

because a web spider bot would be able to easily grab that

aye, thats a bit early thou

[terse bloom]

I'm guessing they already have a bunch of people lined up outside like they did with the past 2 launches

[spice prawn]

should not be showing stock until in 35 minutes thou

[terse bloom]

35 minutes? I've always been able to check Micro Center's stock a couple hours early.

[spice prawn]

i am still disappointed in nvidia for the lack of AIB's card reviews before physical launch

here in the EU the availability is in 33minutes @terse bloom

[lone pond]

hey what gpu would you recommend for 1080p gaming at 60 to 120 fps high settings

[terse bloom]

Ah

Well, I've already been able to check 90 minutes ago. And they don't open for another 90 minutes. Thing is, I'm not too keen on getting a 3070, especially if it means waiting outside, when I've got work 2 hours after they open.

[fathom bear]

There’s been a line for days.

[terse bloom]

And I don't know. Originally, it said "Limited Availability", but I've learned that if you click on that right tab where it says 14 items found, and then go back to the store's stock tab.. It'll change "Limited Availability" to the "Exact number in stock"

I think that depends on what store location you're at.

[shell mesa]

i am on a budget of about 250 for a gpu and i need one that would be good for CAD, some light video rendering and also gaming

[misty shoal]

GTX 1660 Ti?

[shell mesa]

actually

i thought that it was a rip off

[misty shoal]

Its not bad

depends on cost

[shell mesa]

wait nvm someone i messaged on craigslist for an in box 1080 responded

[misty shoal]

how much?

[fathom bear]

Unfortunately no $250 cards in that list

[swift quest]

when will the 3070 be in stock?

[misty shoal]

30 mins

19 mins

[quasi geyser]

^

[plucky fossil]

😤

[fathom bear]

Good luck all.

[fallow vortex]

facts, good luck for yall that are gonna try to get it

[quasi geyser]

Yeah good luck today

[jaunty mural]

Are you trying from phone or pc?

[sonic iris]

This thing is going to be botted so fast again

[fathom bear]

I know.

[dusk ivy]

When does the card become available online? 9am EST?

[quasi geyser]

yup

exactly

[dusk ivy]

Thanks

[clear frigate]

See ya on the other side

[dusk ivy]

So assuming the AMD's Radeon 6800XT would be on sale same time 9am on Nov 18th?

[round cosmos]

Wtf it’s not on Newegg

[dusk ivy]

Yea it is, working here

[plucky fossil]

??

[crisp ocean]

amazon didnt release any

[plucky fossil]

the card isnt there

[crisp ocean]

neither did they do the msi trio

[dreamy dragon]

MeekVerde#2592 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

[plucky fossil]

It said add to cart and then gave me an error

[clear frigate]

I added three different ones to cart all listed sold out in cart

[crisp ocean]

is PNY good

[plucky fossil]

Dude im so pissed

[sonic iris]

Nothing on nvidia website

[fathom bear]

Anyone able to get past bb error?

[smoky fox]

Awake early for all three releases and not a single care lmao

Back to bed it is then

[crisp ocean]

is amazon just not releasing them

[round cosmos]

Do you guys see them on new egg?

[opal coral]

Is Best Buy bugged?

[plucky fossil]

No they sold out

I tried adding to my cart

[opal coral]

Damn I added immediately and it says you have to go through an extra step

[fathom bear]

Same

[plucky fossil]

I saw add to cart

but then it like wouldn't let me do it

[crisp ocean]

did amazon even release

[fathom bear]

Try bb app

They're doing it in waves

[plucky fossil]

ohh foreall???

[clear frigate]

Might newegg be doing the same

[opal coral]

Is there any more information on the waves other than there will be waves?

[fathom bear]

No

[crisp ocean]

does best buy have limited shipping

[plucky fossil]

they came in stock again

[clear frigate]

Add to cart is there but errors

Rip

[plucky fossil]

yep

literally impossible

[maiden frost]

rip

[round cosmos]

Fuuuuuuck I almost got one but they said they couldn’t ship to my address

As I was entering my other address they sold out

[crisp ocean]

did amazon just not release their 3070s

[opal coral]

Did any real humans get a 3070 or did bots just grab them all?

[dreamy dragon]

Attij#0155 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

[sonic iris]

its still in my bb cart rn

[tulip sand]

Not going to lie I’m pissed off lol

[fathom bear]

buy it and ship it to me

[crisp ocean]

3070s are done you cant buy em on bestbuy

[fathom bear]

"Shipping unavailable"

wtf

[clear frigate]

I have one in cart from bestbuy just waiting for the next wave I guess

[crisp ocean]

I think the waves are over

[fathom bear]

I do too. But I think it's a bug

[clear frigate]

Unless that was all

Also how is it gonna tell people it can't ship to them like wtf

[round cosmos]

That’s why I couldn’t get it

[crisp ocean]

im more confused why amazon doesnt have any

[round cosmos]

I’m pissed that new egg didn’t show me the cards for 4 whole minutes because I had a space between “rtx” and “3070”

[clear frigate]

I did too and it showed me them

[crisp ocean]

same lol

[fathom bear]

Damn. I mean all knew, but wow.

[maiden frost]

dam this sucks

[clear frigate]

Well time for netflix to pass the disappointment away

[crisp ocean]

i was able to get the 3070 in my cart, ill just refresh my cart and hope it pops up

[fathom bear]

Yeah it's in my cart but I can't checkout

[clear frigate]

^^^

[lone pond]

It’s in mine but I can’t check out either

It says not available for ship

[plucky fossil]

I never got it in my cart

[maiden frost]

same heree

[plucky fossil]

I got errors

[maiden frost]

me too not available for ship

[clear frigate]

I got to checkout then errors that it isn't available for shipping

Now I can't even checkout

[lone pond]

No longer available to ship. Rip

[clear frigate]

Almost got excited I got back into checkout

[lone pond]

Same

[plucky fossil]

I hate nvidia so much

[crisp ocean]

I almost feel like best buy had a glitch and 0 sold there

[fathom bear]

Should I check ebay

I don't want to but I will

[clear frigate]

I feel like even with other launches they never has a good release stock

[dreamy dragon]

Kitsune042#6403 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

[clear frigate]

Is the bay of e a bad word?

[fathom bear]

80 listings on ebay already

smh

[lone pond]

I dislike the awful planning that nvidia did with their launch

[clear frigate]

Aye they emptied cart

[maiden frost]

sold out well gg

[lofty karma]

Already like 45 sold on us ebay

[plucky fossil]

[short cedar]

I'm amazed lol

[plucky fossil]

so sad

[lone pond]

What are the scalpers selling it for on eBay?

[short cedar]

I was at checkout and it said it wont sell to me

[fathom bear]

Took it out of my cart

gg all

[round cosmos]

Is your address in the USA?

[opal coral]

You can buy it now for 800

[short cedar]

yeah its gone

[lofty karma]

@lone pond its selling for around 800-1000

[clear frigate]

I feel that

[lofty karma]

Consistently

[lone pond]

is the overclocked asus rtx 3070 the 20 bucks more worth

Wow

[spark crown]

So there were no founders cards in Canada after all

[short cedar]

hm I think I might be done with nvidia as a company

[fathom bear]

Cheapest one on ebay is $800

Don't bother

[clear frigate]

Is that saying online in person?

Or just not the app

[lone pond]

Tbh I’m bout to get a 6800

[short cedar]

yeah I'm gonna get a 6800

Nvidia wasting our time

[lone pond]

^

[fathom bear]

Those will sell out too

Just saying

[lofty karma]

^^

[spark crown]

Well if it is bots, the 6800 will probably have the same thing

[lofty karma]

Same with 5000 series cpu

[clear frigate]

Is there stock lower than expected cuz virus or cuz they just didn't plan well and rushing other 3rd parties to get things done?

[fathom bear]

They optimize their rates based on demand over time

[raven fog]

Wait how come it said that it can't be shipped to my location when I literally live next to a bestbuy

[opal coral]

Nvidia and Big red graphics have the same compatibility no?

[fathom bear]

They don't want everyone to get one at launch, because that's not a flat rate

[spark crown]

Jayz2cents had done talks with manufacturers and retailers and said the numbers were in line with past launches

[clear frigate]

So they just don't have good release stock then

Lol

[spark crown]

Bots can really throw the supply/demand curve around.

[round cosmos]

For the people who got shipping errors, was your address outside of the US?

[maiden frost]

does best buy get them in stores??

[opal coral]

Nope