graphics-cards

[limpid latch]

stable, maybe 2115, maybe more if under water but seams like the cooler is in 60s

but they havent said actual release date of strix

[wooden crown]

would been nice if they just did preorders n just shipped in order they received tbh
@limpid latch Right? I understand why they don't do that here in the US... overclockers.co.uk does it for UK and Ireland (they were doing it for the US too, but stopped because of high demand... I didn't pre-order mine there thinking I would be able to get one soon enough and didn't want to pay the extra cash, which I'm now regretting a bit)

[limpid latch]

true, but reviews are nice to see and obviously the couple issues that came up for some cards w/ caps and super overboost causing crashing

[round mason]

the strix been out

XD

people have been getting strixes already

[limpid latch]

really it just got to review yesterday

all places but bestbuy say coming soon

even off asus site

the tuf is out thats for sure

[round mason]

yea the tuf is out

the strix came out the following week

from launch

21st

[celest wave]

had it in the first second

damn checking out bs

[limpid latch]

i never saw it online

[round mason]

yea cos poof

it gone the moment it went up

[limpid latch]

well no notifications or anything

[round mason]

thats literally

every card

no notification

and out of stock immediately

where have you been looking

just newegg?

[limpid latch]

lots places

i got multiple windows open lol

[round mason]

i mean

on launch all cards

disappeared

within 15 secs

[limpid latch]

right, obviously the scalper n bots

i saw locally in chicago ppl wanting 1400 1500 2k for founders

n theres 2 microcenters

here

[round mason]

yikes

[limpid latch]

i emailed inventory manager see what she says, i was back n forth with the samsung odyssey launch preorder failures

now that i got money hah

i got ek waterblock up n ready to preorder if i ever manager to get a strix hah

lol guy in my same town has a founders for 2500 says meet in police station, i said hope they arrest you for scalping prices

😆

damn scum bags, never will sell anyways

watch before 30 days they will be returning them to microcenter

[round mason]

you gonna waterblock the strix?

you might as well just buy the tuf

[limpid latch]

yea i want to

[round mason]

save money

[limpid latch]

tuf has no power increase

strix looks like 120%

just on air the tuf cant hit 2100 and the strix can

tuf prob would need a shunt mod for power i bet but im not doing something like that ya know

[round mason]

ye icic

but

[rapid herald]

Did anyone get one?

[limpid latch]

id perfer a hydrocopper n not go through the hassle of course but either way prob not getting a card till end of month i bet

[round mason]

the strix is only 2 8pin tho

[limpid latch]

no strix is 3x8

[rapid herald]

@limpid latch I'm in Chicago to. I'm going to westmont tomorrow to see if I can get one

[limpid latch]

oh why not the actual chicago location?

[rapid herald]

There both the same distance from me. And westmont is a better neighborhood lol

I'm on the south side

[limpid latch]

this is true

westmont is nice location for sure

[rapid herald]

Yeah its where millionaires love

Live

[limpid latch]

only listings on microcenter are tuf and msi cards

[rapid herald]

Yeah I'll take anything

[limpid latch]

atleast stating out of stock

i wouldnt do ventus

the tri is better, or tuf

[rapid herald]

I was there last week and while I was there a truck pulled up and diverted 8, 3090s

I was so mad lol

[limpid latch]

how early 8ish am

[rapid herald]

10:30 is whe the truck delivered it

I was in like at 9

Line

[limpid latch]

ah i see

thats why i emailed the inventory manager, who knows may get lucky

[rapid herald]

At MC?

[limpid latch]

yes

[rapid herald]

Ok. What's the email for that?

DM it if you have it

[limpid latch]

i was preorder for odyssey g7 and was back n forth

[rapid herald]

Oh om

Ok

[limpid latch]

so i just tried to email see if maybe she will let me know of delivery maybe hold if possible 1

if i gave that out im sure she'd prob get pissed but if i learn anything ill msg u

[rapid herald]

Ok thx man

Plz do. I'm desperate lol

[limpid latch]

and its for westmont as well

[dire gate]

Ill drive an hour to westmont if they have them lol

best buy near me hasnt carried any

Ive heard microcenter though in chicago/westmont at least has had a hard time keeping any in stock past opening

[limpid latch]

30 min for chicago, 15 from westmont

[languid knot]

So Nvidias restock today was no better than before?

[limpid latch]

Someone on here said same thing no notification was pretty quick n not fast enough in checkout

[languid knot]

Wow, especially now that I know the FE thermals, Im glad Im not still in the hunt for one

[limpid latch]

It's still not bad bad

[languid knot]

No, just frustrating

[limpid latch]

Yea I know

Esp when u see the second hand sales

I feel like these places should be like at first launch no returns then that prob would lower purchases of ppl not actually wanting to keep n just make profit

[languid knot]

The sad part is that its an easy fix. I bet most people who have the cards are resellers who could care less about computers, they just know how to make money from reselling

[celest wave]

@languid knot thermals? its like 75C

thats a good temp

[limpid latch]

Strix review was low 60

[languid knot]

^

[celest wave]

its also like 150 more?

[limpid latch]

And higher oc

And potential

[celest wave]

75 is a perfectly good temp for a gpu

[languid knot]

Almost every AIB is better thermally

even the Gigabyte

Yes but higher temps will always mean a shorter life span even if the difference is 10-15c

[limpid latch]

I got quick disconnect for my gpu on my custom loop so connect only CPU till I'd get a block from ek..

Of course if I ever get a card lol

[languid knot]

Yeah I needed to get a pc for work so I just got a 2070 super so I have a gpu for now

[naive kelp]

oh my god

evga's new 3090 is gonna come with a liquid cooled attachment

[languid knot]

Yeah, EVGA does hybrid cards a lot

[limpid latch]

I was stupid to save some money from silicon lottery and got 9900kf so I couldnt sell my 1080ti w/ waterblock on it

Evga has listing of hybrid n hydro but no dates

[languid knot]

1080ti is a good card

[limpid latch]

Yea its evga black sc2 got mem plus 500 and core stable at 2088mhz

[languid knot]

thats hot

I love evga. I got my first gpu from them which was a 760 and now Im going back to them after 5 years of not having a PC

[limpid latch]

I had gtx 8800 9800 sli, 470 780ti 980ti sli ad this 1080ti

I think 7900 as well

Kid worked at tigerdirect long time ago

[languid knot]

My first pc was a like 3rd or 4th gen core i3 with a 760 that I got from tiger direct lol

[limpid latch]

Would put cards in computer cases n buy the cases

[languid knot]

Now Im building a new one with a 3700x and 2070 super until I get a 3070 or 3080

[limpid latch]

He

[languid knot]

not a bad way to get a card ahah

[limpid latch]

So I got gtx 7900 for like 200

[languid knot]

thats crazy

[limpid latch]

Lol they were not good at inventory n security I guess

[languid knot]

I remember most items didnt have a security chip or whatever theyre called to prevent stealing

[limpid latch]

Yep that's why

[languid knot]

I am kind of sad they are out of business now tho. Other than best buy they were the only computer store in my area

[limpid latch]

Yep that's how microcenter started to thrive

I've stated before I used to use newegg the they started taxing out of state purchases

GPU maybe they will get the business though if things dont lineup

[languid knot]

Never used newegg until I tried to get the 3080 but the prices were more than my local best buy for most of the parts I wanted

[limpid latch]

This is true, but that's actually suprising best buy being cheaper

[languid knot]

Well, the 3700x I just got was $309 usd from best buy and its 325 on newegg

plus I dont have to wait for shipping

[limpid latch]

True

[languid knot]

The most expensive thing best buy had was the memory which is way overpriced compared to Amazon

[limpid latch]

Definitely and they have smaller selection

Actually I got my ram from newegg cause cant find low cl cas latency to speed anywhere else

[languid knot]

I got mine direct from Corsair. I got mostly Corsair parts and most of their ram was sold out so I got the 16gb 3600 cl18

Not the best but it should be fine with ryzen

[limpid latch]

Trident z 3600cl15, and oc 16 16 16 36 4000mhz completely stable

2x8gig kits

Wasnt really needed for 9900kf bh

[languid knot]

Yeah I don’t know much about ram or motherboards but from the research I did it seems cl18 or below is perfectly fine

[limpid latch]

Speed number 1, cl helps with lows

Just quicker access so the 1% low is better

[restive grove]

hiddy ho

[languid knot]

Howdy

[restive grove]

was shopping for a 2070 with no bargain in sight

[limpid latch]

2000 rtx is hit or miss, they obvioulsy took alot of sales down for 2080ti

the price bracket, and upcomging really screwed things around lol

@restive grove id wait tbh if you can, maybe prices will drop after 3070 comes out not sure tho

[languid knot]

Yeah the 20 series hasn’t dropped yet. But the 10 series didn’t for a while either

[restive grove]

yeah and its hard to ween myself off the 3080 conga line....

[faint kindle]

Man, it irks me because I’ve spent such an ungodly amount of time looking for the 3080 and I’m on night shift right now, but I check right before I go to sleep, sleep a little bit, wake up, check to see if any in stock, see that nvidia finally restocked their site and miss it by a couple seconds lol

[restive grove]

I was at ground zero in Best Buy

[languid knot]

There’s no way most people will be able to get one until late November or early December it seems

[faint kindle]

Yeah, seems like it

Or until they announce the ti/super

[limpid latch]

bestbuy was all online though wasnt it, they just dropshipping i think

ti /super wont until we see a amd launch

or it will just be the higher ram models

[tired wind]

The Zotac Trinity 3090 is available in Amazon right now, except I couldn't add it to cart. Ships and sold by Amazon.

...... and it's gone.... smh...

[limpid latch]

well if sli came back it looks killer on 3090

but such a small price to performance really no point in spending that money

[tired wind]

yeah, it was available for a good minute, when I add to cart, it disappears.

[limpid latch]

gotta have everything set primary payment n such to rush it

[tired wind]

that would be nice if I could even reach the payment part

[limpid latch]

true

cdw lets you buy backorder strix 3080 but 913

yikes

who knows when u get it lol

5% discount creating account

[tired wind]

I will even buy a new PC with 3080 for $1500, I'll just take the card and give the PC to my nephew.

[limpid latch]

lol

[tired wind]

I have allotted $1700 budget, so which ever comes first, a 3080, a 3090 or a PC with 3080 in it.

but I won't buy way over msrp.

[toxic bay]

Hi

[languid knot]

The prebuilts with 3080s are wayyyy too much

[tired wind]

I will say that a $1600 PC with 3080 is a fair enough deal considering the warranty.

[wooden crown]

cdw lets you buy backorder strix 3080 but 913
@limpid latch $875 more or less with 5% discount, that's not that bad... I think I'm ordering from it, and forgetting about it

[limpid latch]

ah it says discount on select

it wont discount the video card i just put in cart to see

😦

@wooden crown without thats alot of money with tax n shipping blah

[dreamy dragon]

CyberChancer#4415 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

[faint kindle]

I started to order the 3080 xc3 from cdw last night because it said available in 2-4 days, should have

But $899

Still should have

[dense flicker]

pls dont avoid word filter

[wooden crown]

But it makes you stop checking over and over whether the card is available or not, so... it comes down to how much you value your time

[faint kindle]

Yep

At least it gives me something to do at work in down time and helps it go by faster but it also takes years off your life, ya know?

lmao

[wooden crown]

pls dont avoid word filter
@dense flicker My mistake, I did not know I couldn't write a simple name here by dictionary definition `dc is a boy's name of German origin meaning "dominant ruler".

[dense flicker]

crazy thing is, sometimes words change meaning with context

[terse bloom]

The lowest pre-built I've seen with 3080, is 2200 plus tax and shipping.
My cousin already ordered one from CLX for 3600 I believe.

[wooden crown]

crazy thing is, sometimes words change meaning with context
@dense flicker Right, but isn't the writer who determines the context of the statement?
Readers misinterpret the writers' vision quite often, like we are seeing right now

[dense flicker]

we have that word on the filter because of bot accounts that try to spam and raid this discord, i simply asked you to not try to avoid the word filter.

and im sure you did not mean it in the context of being a name.

[wooden crown]

we have that word on the filter because of bot accounts that try to spam and raid this discord, i simply asked you to not try to avoid the word filter.
@dense flicker And I said My mistake, I did not know I couldn't write a simple name here.

and im sure you did not mean it in the context of being a name.
@dense flicker What I mean is up to me, not you

What you want to read it as, that's up to you

[dense flicker]

-_-

[faint kindle]

buddy, no need

just speak good

no bad

easy

[dense flicker]

server rules have priority over what you want to say.

im willing to stop the argument and let it be here, if you want.

[faint kindle]

On another note, I hadn’t realized Office Depot was selling 3080s, seems like everyone is dipping their toes in this

[dense flicker]

all im asking is that you dont try to avoid the word filter.

i didnt think office depot sold pc parts

[faint kindle]

yeah me neither

GameStop as well

Granted it’s PNY

So if you wanna consider that computer parts and not just trash

[dense flicker]

i have no experience with pny gpus

[faint kindle]

I have no hands on experience but just what other people have said

I guess every card has its issues though

Def no perfect one

[languid knot]

They are bad. At least from what I’ve read. They use the cheap capacitors and have poor cooling

[faint kindle]

I’ve heard about overheating issues

[wooden crown]

im willing to stop the argument and let it be here, if you want.
@dense flicker I already said "my mistake" twice, not sure what

What I'm arguing is your assumption that I meant to say something else within the context of my statement "crazy thing is, sometimes words change meaning with context"
Which was unnecessary to say, that's all

[faint kindle]

Another chat I’m in, guy said he was pushing 85c at one point idle with PNY. Granted he could’ve just had really terrible airflow, which is very viable

[wooden crown]

ah it says discount on select
@limpid latch I just asked an agent and January 2021 is the delivery estimate from CDW

[languid knot]

Doesn’t sound too crazy to me. It’s not. A good card design

[faint kindle]

I’ve heard the STRIX drops tomorrow which should be solid

It’ll be huge though lol

I can only imagine how many people have bought the 3000 series only to realize it doesn’t fit in their cases

[wooden crown]

Another chat I’m in, guy said he was pushing 85c at one point idle with PNY. Granted he could’ve just had really terrible airflow, which is very viable
@faint kindle JayzTwoCents posted a solid video explaining the reaon behind it... Apparently ASUS and FE edition are not experiencing this issues because of better built

[faint kindle]

Yeah. The TUF is also a good option this time around.

FTW3, strix, tuf

FE better than some aib

I like that has the exhaust out the back of FE to get hot air out of case

[languid knot]

Ehhhh it runs hotter than most

[faint kindle]

Really? I need to catch up on my stuff, haven’t seen much these past few days

[languid knot]

It runs 10-15c hotter than they gigabyte card. Not aorus

[faint kindle]

well dang

the one I didnt want, gigabyte lmao

[languid knot]

Yeahhhhh

[faint kindle]

at least we’re getting well rounded numbers now though. It’s interesting. I think I’ve invested so much time just into the process of being able to buy the 3080 that when i finally do buy it, I’ll likely be disappointed just because the hype will be over at that point

[languid knot]

More than likely yes

The hype will drop a bit after the 3070 comes

[faint kindle]

If I don’t get one by AMDs presentation I guess we’ll just have to see how it performs vs 3080

Would have liked to get one by cyberpunk release but I’ve got a feeling they’re going to delay it again anyways

[wooden crown]

Like making everyone work 6 days a week will increase productivity 🤣

[faint kindle]

[wooden crown]

I’ve heard the STRIX drops tomorrow which should be solid
@faint kindle Here in NewEgg? 9AM? What else do you know? PM me please 😅

[faint kindle]

I’m actually not sure, I just remember reading that somewhere, but take it as a loose leaf rumor

I’ll try to find where I read it if I can remember

[wooden crown]

There are a few sites rumoring about a week of September 28th release, which will end tomorrow. So... this might be it

[restive grove]

I gotta have this on desktop\

[languid knot]

What is cyberpunk?

[stone raft]

A game

[languid knot]

Well

I figured

But I appreciate the clarification

[stone raft]

Lol

Didn't come out yet

It reminds me of deus ex

Also, is anyone really trying to pay 849.99 for the strix?

Like it still doesn't say the clock speed or cooling system on the nvidia sitw

Sitw

Site*****

[round mason]

only know of gigabyte launches this week

[stone raft]

Tomorrow?

[dire gate]

the aorus launch tomorrow yeah

[stone raft]

Ugh the aorus

[dire gate]

ive heard the RGB is a pain in the ass to get working on aorus cards/products

[stone raft]

It is

Which is why I will be skipping that card

[round mason]

its just rgb guys

XD

[dire gate]

their software crashes computers lol

[round mason]

i have had no issues with the software. not to say the software is perfect

im using an aorus board atm with rgb set up

[dire gate]

ive seen multiple people say that the software crashes their computers and causes other dumb issues in general

[round mason]

ig more cards for us that dont got that issue

its got that lcd display too

[dire gate]

lol, yeah it looks super cool. I wish you all the luck in the world

[round mason]

i got 1 pre-ordered

not gonna waste my life f5ing newegg

[dire gate]

dont come at me like that

lol

[round mason]

XD

wym

[dire gate]

my ass is gonna be over here f5ing for an FE

[round mason]

gl man

[dire gate]

thank you ❤️

[round mason]

the FE is def the best value

but i like the aibs more

[dire gate]

its also the prettiest in my opinion, and im shallow like that

[round mason]

to each their own for sure

fe is a good looking one

[dire gate]

but I have no graphics card right now, so well see how long i can hang in there. I got one in my cart today, but it got stuck in "checking out"

[round mason]

ah man

y dont u got a card

are you a 2080ti reseller?

[dire gate]

nah, First PC build

[round mason]

oh wow

first build alrady going for a high end card

[dire gate]

was originally gonna get a 2070, but they stopped restocking them, and they were all marked up

and by the time i started ordering my parts the 3080 announcement was right around the corner

[round mason]

fair

[dire gate]

and yeah, im not upgrading for a decade though lol

and i had already budgeted for a 2070, so it wasnt too big of a jump for the 3080

all the time spent waiting for the 2070 gave me time to save up

[round mason]

i got myself a 2070s

but my bro is needeing a new sys so

im givign him my stuff

n building a new sys or more so getting new mobo cpu pu

gpu*

[dire gate]

my friend had a 2060, and sold it before the 3080 announcement, hes also trying to get one, so he has also been without a card for a while lol

[round mason]

ah man

2060s value is still retaining

idk y he would sell

so fast

[dire gate]

I have a ryzen cpu though, so no integrated graphics, so i have a fully built desktop minus graphics that cant display lol

[stone raft]

Lmfao, why do people sell their cards knowing the bots are out there?

[round mason]

i understand 2080ti

because the 3080 competes with it

but anything else

makes no sense

[dire gate]

lol he wanted cash to get the 3080, and to be fair, it was both of our first time paying attention to a launch, we were very hopeful

[round mason]

if hes using a 2060

hes probably gaming in 1080p

a 3080 is a waste if you are gaming at that resolution

so if he ends up getting the 3080 he either burns money he spent on the 3080 cause hes still gaming in 1080 or he ends up spending more to getting a better monitor just to get the value of the 3080

[dire gate]

nah hes got a 4k display he plays on

[round mason]

nani

he was gaming in 4k with a 2060?

[dire gate]

Ive advised otherwise... but yes.

[round mason]

[dire gate]

Hopefully ill get one in the next restock, i have all sorts of alerts and tricks

[wind ridge]

Anyone know which 3080 I should get?

[round mason]

which ever u can get

n that u think is good

i think u should stay clear from zotac

[dire gate]

and pny and evga

[round mason]

evga is good

their higher end ftw3

[dire gate]

ive heard EVGA is having the same crashing issues but i could be wrong

[round mason]

is reliable

well all cards

have been seeing crashing

some more frequent than others

[wind ridge]

i want an evga one but they are like $100 more than some of the others

[dire gate]

ive heard evga falls into the more category

i think evgas lower tier one that is

[round mason]

ye the lower tiered

evga ones

are ugly anyways

ftw3 is really nice

but my problem with evga

which has been problematic even b4 3000 series

is their fans

[dire gate]

fan boys or fan girls?

[wind ridge]

whats the difference between the ventus 3x oc and the ventus 3x

[round mason]

the fan on the gpu

ventus oc is factory OC'd

runs a bit faster than a regular ventus

id recommend

u get the asus tuf oc instead

[limpid latch]

the ftw3 isnt really high end though it seams, pretty low oc's and not much extra power

atleast in the % it lets you add to an oc

[wind ridge]

im going with the asus tuf. Mainly because it has 2 hdmi

[limpid latch]

yea unless they show more purchase of asus strix, thats like 849; tho

[round mason]

I got msi trio n the aorus master both preordered so we shall see which of them come first

[torpid garden]

Nvidia driver hotfix for 3000 series https://nvidia.custhelp.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/5091/kw/456.71

[restive grove]

I hail a blessing from Newegg

I still can't bring myself to do it, even with the promo code

[languid knot]

@dire gate it’s my first build too but I got a 2070 super so I can just step up. Don’t want tot wait that long

[rapid herald]

I head that an asus strix is realesing tomorrow. Am i being lied to or is this true

[lone pond]

30 series?

[rapid herald]

ye

[lone pond]

damn

should I get FE or Eagle one

[rapid herald]

FE. but is that true what i said?

[lone pond]

dunno fam

[rapid herald]

or was that person lieing

[round mason]

ive been saying dis man

its been out

people have been having the strix 3080 and 3090 already

[rapid herald]

so then what was that person talking about? Cuz I was confused

[round mason]

the aorus is releasing tomorrow

aorus master

[rapid herald]

how much

[round mason]

just a tad less than the strix

20$-10$ less

[rapid herald]

so like 840

[round mason]

yea

[rapid herald]

so there is prolly a line outside of micro center?

lol

[round mason]

no idea

ive only known it to be on newegg tomorrow

no news from micro center if they are going to have

it

[rapid herald]

ohok

[limpid latch]

supposidly with launch microcenter had vouchers they gave out to ppl for the gpus

but they had stayed there

[round mason]

the gigabyte vision will launch the following week

then the xtreme a few more weeks

[limpid latch]

so far the best one coming w/ numbers we know of is the asus strix

[rapid herald]

whats the wattage cunsumption

[limpid latch]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=olJNkCYK9sQ

he got 2100mhz, 2115mhz stable it goes up to 120% power limit atleast how it is on card

so i cant imagine how much better on water that would be, or atleast alittle more push to it

[rapid herald]

whats the wattage conumption?

consumption

[limpid latch]

its 3 8 pin, i dont recall if he stated on site

[round mason]

375

[limpid latch]

but alot of things i read was this car supposed to be official release maybe tomrrow 2nd

[rapid herald]

dang3, 8 pin?

[round mason]

the card was slotted to release day 1 of 3080 release

[limpid latch]

evga ftw3 is 3 8 pin but doesnt seam like its that high usage availible

[round mason]

then was delayed to the 21st

since the 21st

the card has been listed everywhere

[limpid latch]

listed yea all say coming soon

only supposidly amazon had preorder, and then bestbuy had as well

im hoping thats out though in physical stores tomorrow

but its also listed as $849

ek preorder wb 179.99 and 45.99 backplate for strix

[exotic bolt]

Finally got it in the system today! Pretty good. Crashed once on CoD. I think that's more due to CoD than my 3080 because that would crash on my 2080 as well. I am able to play campaign at ultra with approximately 150 FPS with full RTX on. Over all great card but I think the ASUS TUF card is the best MSRP option.

[limpid latch]

yea asus tuf is for price thats for sure holds oc's nicely and lower temps

[rapid herald]

do you think MC will have a link outside tomorrow?

[limpid latch]

i think they prob have lines every day in hopes i bet but like said ill msg u if i hear anything

i play star citizen, even though its not optimized any good, i bet a 3080 will improve things over a 1080ti even at 1440p

if i wasnt stupid in expensive pledges i could have money sooner for even the 3090 at launch hah

[rapid herald]

Yeah. I dont like the 3 pin thing...idk why lol

[limpid latch]

well gotta have more power though

[rapid herald]

yeah I know...

welp...looks like im going to MC early tomorrow then

[limpid latch]

strix io think is 24phase power

[rapid herald]

Oh no I know.

Its a beast

[limpid latch]

asus website reccomends 850w hah

[rapid herald]

Oh geez

well I have a 750 watt so....

[magic prism]

same

[rapid herald]

ill go tomorrow in hopes of getting cheaper one

[magic prism]

I just want a Asus TUF gaming

;-;

[limpid latch]

im sure its fine if you dont have extreme things going and decent power rating

yea tuf im contemplating between if other isnt out

definitely cheaper but not much headroom

[rapid herald]

Yeah we will see

still let me know about tomorrow, brother

[limpid latch]

for sure

if they do ill ask to hold 2 maybe for luck who knows

[magic prism]

TUF cards are seeming really good

Better clocks and cooling

[limpid latch]

yea compared to others

[magic prism]

Now the hard part is getting one...

[limpid latch]

very much so

[terse bloom]

What the? Did the ASUS TUF 3080 come back in stock today? Just checked the newegg site. Saw the add to cart option. Clicked it. Clicked proceed to checkout, out of stock.

[languid knot]

A few came to newegg today I think

[sharp bear]

I saw it show up too

I checked and instantly out of stock

[lone pond]

Okay

can someone predict that new AMD's Gpu is gonna be cheap or expensive ?

[restive grove]

cheap

[lone pond]

does anyone here have any solution to connect cable internet to PC when wifi modern is far away from pc

[languid knot]

They will probably be less than Nvidia. But the early specs are not looking good

[lone pond]

ealr apex ?

[languid knot]

Can’t spell sorry

Early specs

[lone pond]

oh

what do u mean not looking good ?

not almost as fast as the nvidia 3000series ?

[limpid latch]

im sure will be in line with mid grade

prob not highend, they not using gddr6x just standard

and low memory bus

[lone pond]

well I'm broke AF

to me more than 50fps is okay

[languid knot]

Yeah the base clocks aren’t any more than last gen AMD cards

[stuck rivet]

[terse bloom]

Cheap or Expensive are very "relative" words.

[lone pond]

..............

how is it relative

<(")

[limpid latch]

asus tuff was up on newegg n gone

hah

prob a bug

or just instantly gone

[lone pond]

........

I have a bad feeling that I won't get the amd gpu or 3700 in the 1st lanuch

[limpid latch]

3700?

[restive grove]

3070

[limpid latch]

oh ok

well maybe ppl wont be as hyped for 3070 over 3080 and 3090??

[restive grove]

won't matter, headlines will read "When Scalpers Attack"

[limpid latch]

native americans get they payback! lol

[restive grove]

I'm curious if the scalpers are employed by AMD?

[limpid latch]

lol they buy them and reverse engineer

if they sell high then they sell high

could be nvidia too to raise prices

never know

[restive grove]

Think about it, especially if RX 6000 series cards are never scalped...

[limpid latch]

maybe

[rigid crag]

I feel like big navis is gonna rival ampere pretty closely

[limpid latch]

nah prob just 3070 2080ti performance if that

[rigid crag]

Well the 500 dollar consoles are supposed to rival 2080ti performance

[lone pond]

that's 4D chess's conspiracy you got there my man

[rigid crag]

¯\_(ツ)_/¯

[restive grove]

yes but if ampere is train wrecked all we can buy is navi

[limpid latch]

consoles will never truely compare tbh

[restive grove]

navi is sort of a creepy name in anime anyway "Seriel Experiments Lain" creepy...

[limpid latch]

they can say numbers but graphics settings are definitely adjusted on the lower end for games and resolution scaling to keep fps up

4k on a console settings is nothing compared to 4k on a pc prob medium or low on console, and pc can go ultra n such

[restive grove]

I am stuck coasting on my 1060, i loath buying a rx 5700xt

I loath buying a rtx 2070 super just as much

[lone pond]

.............

I'm gonna buy 5700xt as well

but I'm waiting to see what AMD gpu can offer

[limpid latch]

well if evga can do stepup, but prob take a while to get that upgrade, i think once u signup for it you dont have to worry about the time frame of 90 days

like if you pay the difference then when its in stock you send ur gpu n blah blah

[lone pond]

...........

[limpid latch]

i dont recall how the setup is its been a long time since i had a card w/ 90 option

like say you get a 2070 evga card, signup for stepup n so forth

[restive grove]

asus doesn't have a step up program\

[limpid latch]

nope only evga that i know of

Why do I have to wait in queue?
We have a queue for our Step-Up process so you can keep your current EVGA product until we have your new product ready and waiting for you in our warehouse. Sometimes, very high demand will necessitate a longer than usual queue, but once you have made your request and you are in queue the 90 day limit no longer applies - you are considered in the Step-Up process.

as i remembered, once you initiate the process and are waiting then there's no time limit even if it takes a while

[harsh vortex]

^

thats what I did, needed a card now so I bought an evga 2070 super to use while I wait

FYI your only option for 3080 step up is the FTW3 ultra so if you don't want to pay $800 for your 3080 look elsewhere

[limpid latch]

ah really well thats not too too bad

[rigid crag]

I honestly don't even need anything ampere has to offer lol

[limpid latch]

that would been my other question/ issue on what they will offer.. most of the time it used to be just a base model card

i made mistake of 9900kf so i cant let go of my 1080ti early when i could have sold it w/ waterblock no replacement card a few months ago n then wouldnt beable to use pc.. should just spent lil extra for 9900k instead

[languid knot]

The consoles don’t really rival the 2080ti performance

I mean maybe at 4K cause you get 60fps but at anything lower a 2070 super can do just as good as the new consoles can

[limpid latch]

yea they adjust resolution or quality to get that 60

thats why consoles r cheaper easier to develope games n such

just straight up this the specs make and hit the target

[languid knot]

Yeah. Like for the new consoles the 1440p is supposedly locked at 120. But the 2070 super can run most games at 1440 ultra at 100+FPS with higher details

So while the consoles seem good, and they are much faster, they’re still a gen behind already

[dry kelp]

Whats the next step up from an RX 570?

[static zinc]

RX 580

[lone pond]

when is the amd gpu coming out guys ?

what date *

[lone pond]

oct 7th they doing a live stream i think

some time next week

[proper dragon]

What gpu will be great for a 3 3100

[round mason]

anything

2060 super

or below that

[proper dragon]

Will that bottleneck

[round mason]

nope

[proper dragon]

Will it be good for gaming

[round mason]

you tell me

the question

is usually asked the other way around

you pair ur gpu with a cpu not pairing ur cpu with a gpu

what are your needs specifically? im assuming its gaming but what resolution and how many frames do you wanna reach

[proper dragon]

I want 720 or 1080 and anything above 150fps

[round mason]

uh

u got a budget?

[proper dragon]

500

[round mason]

u can just get a 1660ti

if u want 1080p 100+ fps ud prob get a 2060S

are you set on using a ryzen 3?

3100

[proper dragon]

I mean it would be nice to keep it but I can go up

[round mason]

well if u can sneak it in the budget

a ryzen 5 3600x or non x is good

with the 2060s

550w-600w

16gb 3000mhz

and whatever storage that meets your needs

[proper dragon]

I have a 500w

[round mason]

i think that should be good

[proper dragon]

Ok

[round mason]

yea

500w should be good

[proper dragon]

I have all of that

[round mason]

what mobo ya got?

[proper dragon]

B450M ds3h

[round mason]

ye then ur set

[gentle zenith]

Why is my RTX 3090 smell like burnt toast?

[round mason]

so a 2060s is the best gpu for ur needs

[gentle zenith]

Is this normal?

[round mason]

the ryzen 3 is alright but id recommend a ryzen 5

[proper dragon]

Ok I might get the 2060 and then upgrade the 3 to a 5

So the 3 should be good for a while

[round mason]

yea the 3 should be good forawhile

[proper dragon]

Ok

Thanks

[round mason]

np

make sure to get a good monitor along with it

too

[proper dragon]

Yeah a 144hzs

[gentle zenith]

Yo

If I'm getting a 3090 what cpu won't bottleneck?

AMD

[proper dragon]

After you get a new gpu can you sell the old one

[stone raft]

I think most stuff over 3700x would be fine reedy. I need to check

[gentle zenith]

I have a TItan RTX

Kinda weak btw.

For my standards at least

Couldn't even 8k

[faint kindle]

AMD conference for new cpu soon

The 8th of October

I’d say wait on that

[ancient crystal]

I just got my RX 5600 XT

could not be happier

well, i got it early today rather

for 1080p there's no better bang for buck unless the 2060 KO is on the cheap for $310 or so

only reason for 2060 KO is like, ray tracing

but this GPU is fast. lightning fast at 1080p.

Control, a notoriously demanding game got an average of 111fps during a long session

on ultra everything, of course

[lone pond]

well

if you're gonna go 1080p then 2060 super is safe bet ( I would go 5700xt) for at least few years

[harsh vortex]

for sure, it might be worth to see what the 3060 looks like in a month or so too

[round mason]

@gentle zenith 3080-90 cpu bottleneck is prevelant around 1440p and below

even with the best cpus. But ive seen people test it with the ryzen 5 3600x so with still good performance

[limpid latch]

ive prepped a bypass tube for my water loop if i get a strix 3080 till i can get it on water

so can cool only cpu and gpu on fans temporarily, if i can get a gpu of course then order waterblock to be shipped mid october

[lone pond]

I don't know about you guys

but 3600x in couple year would bottle the freaking neck GPU

most game 3600x run is 70-95%

so 3700x is safe bet here

70$ bucks

[high nimbus]

@spice prawn ah missed that message. Machine is great! no issues.

[lone pond]

70$ more buck

just friendly advice

[limpid latch]

ugh there goes newegg again w/ add to cart n instantly gone

i wonder if its actually item or not ?

[round mason]

@lone pond theres minimal difference in performance not worth the price diff for 1-3frames

[lone pond]

I'm not talking about fps

[limpid latch]

it depends what resolution your running obviously if 1440p to 4k the cpu will be used much less

[lone pond]

I'm talking about cpu efficiency, 3600x bench mark on modern game around 75%-95% and 3700x maximum is 75%, so if you dont want bottleneck

I would advice spend little bit more

1440p 144hz for me here

1080 maybe 3600x okay

[harsh vortex]

definitely wait for the new ryzen launch tho, you'll have better options then

[limpid latch]

yea if its a good optimization obviously you want to have least amount of cpu usage the more the worse strain and bottleneckyes

[lone pond]

I hope the old cpu drops price

😦

[harsh vortex]

it should and/or better cpus at similar prices

[lone pond]

oh really

Damn ty man

Will wait

I have to wait amd gpu anyway

Oh yeay abou psu

My total build uses only 500 let say 600

Do I need 750w or just 650w ?

[harsh vortex]

I'd say better safe than sorry, the price difference isn't that big, and brands like corsair and evga have 5-10 year warranty. Get a psu that will last you a few upgrades

[lone pond]

LOL I'm gonna use my first build at least 3-5 years

Yeay just see one 850w. Gold cossair 10years warranty 110$

[harsh vortex]

damn

[limpid latch]

ive had a corsair rm850 80plus gold for quite a while prob since 2015 or 2016 maybe

no hitches seams perfect atleast from what i see

i think seasonic is good to get too, id leave some room for other things as well drives, rgb, if you charge anything off the motherboard/accessories

price atleast go 750 850w gold, unless you can get a platinum

[harsh vortex]

gold is perfectly fine, plat is not really worth the price increase for most cases

[limpid latch]

especially if you overclock

well say 650w plat would have alot more stable to max power than gold if your at the brim of power limits

right

stupid newegg keeps psyching me out when see add to cart, upon refresh sometimes

[round mason]

@lone pond your argument literally doesnt make sense the reason why the 3700x has less usage than the 3600x is because the 3700x has more cores and threads

cpu usage doesnt completely mean its bottlenecking the gpu. You gotta look at fps because thats what you care when you are gaming.

are you gonna say because that the 9900k has higher usage than a 3950x that means that the 9900k is more of a bottleneck than a 3950x despite the 9900k performing better in gaming than the 3950x? No ofc not. 3950x has twice the cores and twice the threads which means it will always have lesser usage than a 9900k doesnt mean it will perform better than a 9900k in gaming. This goes the same for lower end cpus in 3600x and 3700x. The performance difference at most between these cpus is at max 1% difference

[ancient crystal]

did y'all just well, actually me about buying a more expensive GPU after I just bought something i'm satisfied with

i'm not futureproofing

i look to the future as a time that when this GPU becomes insufficient, i'll just get another then

[faint kindle]

seems like the world of computers is so ever changing its hard to future proof, lol

[ancient crystal]

yeah it is

just buy what works for you and if you need to buy again in a couple years

[faint kindle]

Let’s say I buy a 3090, in 3-4 years there will be something that blows it out of the park, probably

[ancient crystal]

eh you had a good run

yeah a 3090 is the worst card to buy right now

because of its limited difference between that and the 3080 according to many reviewers

[round mason]

in gaming yes

[ancient crystal]

and the 3090 being so expensive

well i mean

[round mason]

in productivity the 3090 is a good buy

[ancient crystal]

realistically if you're buying for productivity

you're already in for a serious investment

[round mason]

ye

[ancient crystal]

i'm talking about gaming though specifically

because a lot of people are getting 3090s for gaming

[round mason]

well yea its a shame. just feeding nvidias pockets

my friend who burns his money on computer parts etc and mmo stuff was about to buy a 3090 until i told him the performance differences in gaming

he changed his mind so he isnt a complete fool

[ancient crystal]

i feel like given that the 3080 i guess can do 8K?

like you can't really do better

[round mason]

uh not 8k

[ancient crystal]

oh

[round mason]

needs more vram

[ancient crystal]

so the 3090 does it because of more VRAM

[round mason]

yes

[ancient crystal]

so basically unless you need to do 8K

[round mason]

it takes alot to render that many pixels

[ancient crystal]

3090 is not worthwhile for gaming

[round mason]

yes exactly

its also something to do with the architecture

[ancient crystal]

and who needs to do 8K? I just bought a 4K TV recently. I thought 4K was the thing.

[round mason]

3080-90 are made to perform significantly better in higher res

[ancient crystal]

now it's like "but now there's 8k!!"

[round mason]

but in lower res than 4k the gains are much less compared to previous cards

[ancient crystal]

well sure

a 3080 for 1080p would be silly

the 3070 even

[round mason]

indeed

[ancient crystal]

just silly performance for that

i almost bought a 1660S

but this RX 5600 XT is a lot more powerful

[round mason]

i think this should be around the time where people transition from 1080p standard to 1440p standard

[ancient crystal]

and i'm getting framerates that make me really happy

i could get 1440p and still use this card easily

it supports 1440p well

[round mason]

ye

my 2070s does most games 100fps+

1440p

[ancient crystal]

this does stuff at 1080p for like 100-110fps no problem

everything ultra

Control is a year old but is a demanding as heck game

and runs 1080p maxed out 110fps on this thing

[round mason]

with dlss

it should run better

[ancient crystal]

lol no

i don't like DLSS for one

for another this is an AMD card

so no DLSS

AMD has different features

[round mason]

why dont u like dlss

especially for control

[ancient crystal]

like freesync, superior to g-sync because of the wide support of monitors without being fiddly

[round mason]

dlss is amazing

[ancient crystal]

AMD also has FidelityFX which creates some visuals that are really close to RTX without raytracing

in the games that support it

[round mason]

rtx is different from dlss tho

[ancient crystal]

i know what DLSS is

it renders in half resolution and upscales

[round mason]

ye

[ancient crystal]

for performance

[round mason]

y u no liek?

[ancient crystal]

i dislike upscaling

it doesn't look the same as the actual resolution

[round mason]

well its not traditional scaling

well yea it usually doesnt

in most cases especially with dlss2

[ancient crystal]

i realize it's this intelligent thing and it's intended to increase your performance

[round mason]

it comes with better visual fidelity than native res

[ancient crystal]

it depends on the game too

some developers have abysmal implementations

some have really good ones

[round mason]

yea

the tech is new

gotta give them time

but im putting my money on dlss to be on most games

in the near future

i care for dlss more than rt in these new nvidia cards

[ancient crystal]

if they can get it consistently good it can be a game changer

but i am skeptical of upscaling tech even if it's AI stuff

[round mason]

fair to be skeptical

[ancient crystal]

actually your spelling was just british

[round mason]

was it?

[ancient crystal]

yes

[round mason]

i seem to be doing that alot recently

[ancient crystal]

sceptical is british english

[round mason]

with other words

:/

never even been to europe let alone uk

[ancient crystal]

do you talk to a lot of non-american/canadians?

you might absorb their spellings

[round mason]

ye i is canadian

i say the letter z as zee instead of zed tho

[ancient crystal]

even of course canadian spellings are considerably different on a lot of things than here in the US

yes some canadians do say zee

i feel like zed is common in BC

and in the eastern provinces

[round mason]

it is

thats where im from

LOL

[ancient crystal]

i know BC well

i'm from the seattle area

[round mason]

ah yes

my neighbour

been there a few times too

[ancient crystal]

i live in montana now

montana is an absolute trash fire though

in Butte everything is dying

like business wise

even moreso now of course

oh also

the word zed comes from the greek zeta

so it actually makes a bit more sense than saying "zee"

since our Z is the greek Zeta basically

[round mason]

i see

https://tenor.com/view/themoreyouknow-star-rainbowstreak-nbc-gif-4884642

[ancient crystal]

i love canada, except rural places

rural ontario in particular is absolutely wild

[round mason]

ah man

[ancient crystal]

i was eating in a chinese restaurant in southern ontario

[round mason]

havent been there but anything rural is kinda bad

[ancient crystal]

and these people were making chingchong noises as they ate the food

it's like okay who prepared this food you seem to love so much

show a bit of respect, decency

i didn't start anything because i was in a foreign country

and that is a bad idea

[round mason]

LOL

[ancient crystal]

don't wanna get banned from canada over some buttholes in a restaurant

[round mason]

ya got me in chingchong noises >:[ im asian

jk its all good but ye

talkin while eating is pretty nasty

[ancient crystal]

see

i had this idea that you were asian the second i said that

i was like, wait, this person is probably asian

because of coincidence

[round mason]

tru

slurping your noodles to japanese is usually respectful

but i dont think ive ever heard of any asian culture where talking while eating was a decent thing to do

[ancient crystal]

meanwhile my family is swedish

talking while anything is generally a no

EXCEPT eating

then the whole family becomes social

[round mason]

You know what i hate

People see me eating n they decide its the right time to speak to me

Then they look at me expecting a reply. So im about to talk while eating then they say dont talk while eating

Like ?????

[ancient crystal]

people are really something

#general-chat ?

we're hecking up the GPU channel with general stuff

oops

[round mason]

Sur

[ancient crystal]

i realize the admins can see my edit but i hope they understand that my edit is in good faith

[terse bloom]

how is it relative
@lone pond
Cheap or Expensive are relative words depending on a person's budget and perspective.
Like liquor can be both cheap and/or expensive depending on the person, the type of alcohol, and/or the quality.
For some people, a $500 GPU can be really expensive and out of their price range, or it can be really affordable and cost less than a week's paycheck.
I mean, if you really think about it, a $500 GPU would be expensive to a 14 year old (like my little brother) who doesn't have a job and would take 3-5 years of Christmas and Birthday money to pay for.
As for my opinion of "Cheap" or "Expensive", you'd have to compare "Quality" to "Price".

[faint kindle]

Seriously?

Two months

broooo

[gleaming charm]

Yeah that's tough

I wanted to stick with EVGA and get a 3080 buuut the timing like I'm gonna have to go AMD just to get an upgrade before 2021

That 10gb vram is a little low

Love gaming but I got some Blender work to do too

[spice prawn]

https://www.nvidia.com/en-us/geforce/news/geforce-rtx-3070-available-october-29/

[faint kindle]

oh geez

that’s gonna upset a lot of people

like it’s gonna matter tho when bots buy them in 0.05 seconds again

[gleaming charm]

This craziness makes me wonder if they should have waited longer and built up more supply before releasing

Worst case scenario they'd be releasing about the same time as AMD

[lone pond]

What does kfa2 stand for?

[languid knot]

I can’t believe they are pushing the 3070 launch back

[south bobcat]

dude, the 3080 is sold out in 3000 microcenters

[limpid latch]

not gonna bother w/ neweggs site

its always like that at microcenter, they r getting small shipments at a time

although shows both oc n standard tuf models on the side as "found"

[languid knot]

Yeah most places dont have the cards even when they say they might

[lone pond]

Well

I guess 3070 is not ready

They'd better prepare carefully this time

This time they launch almost the same time with amd

Fail and eat shjt

[languid knot]

Well with the RDNA 2 leaks ive seen they just need to have a good supply and they will be fine

[lone pond]

Pdna 2 amd gpu ?

[languid knot]

Yes

[stone raft]

Argh...ftw3 was on sale at 5am last night

[languid knot]

Also called Big Navi

[lone pond]

Big Navi :))

big navi = 3080 ?

Or 3070?

[languid knot]

Yeah Im not impressed so far but who knows what will happen

[lone pond]

Maybe

They will make it cheaper

Who knows

[languid knot]

3090 I think. The new cards are called Navi2x

[lone pond]

Like 5700xt and 2070 super

Cliché

[languid knot]

well, the 5700xt took a while to even equal the 2070 super

[lone pond]

Well

100$ cheaper

So it's fair

[languid knot]

But you lose RTX voice and ray tracing, which can be argued are worth the extra cost

Im not an nvidia fan boy, I want AMD to do well I just think nvidia made some pretty big strides it might be hard to catch up

[lone pond]

Wait

Amd gpu doesn't have ray tracing

And wth is rtx voice

[languid knot]

not the 5000s no

its probably one of the best voice filtration systems. So if youre streaming in a loud situation itll filter everything out

[lone pond]

...............

Well hello again nvidia

[languid knot]

lol, like I said, there are some good things nvidia offers, even though they have their issues

[lone pond]

How many percentage fps is it gonna drop if I turned on ray tracing ?

Oh yeay also there was a person claim

New amd cpu

Is gonna be faster and same price

An you confirm it

[languid knot]

So for the 2070 super at 1440 youll lose 20-30 fps in control as one example

so its a big hit

with the 30 series its much better

[lone pond]

The hell

Ray tracing on immediately lose. 30fps

You're kiding right?

[languid knot]

no, but thats just for control which is already a hard game to run. But ray tracing add quite a bit

[lone pond]

Oh Control game

Oh cool

Well I would love to try amd

But no ray tracing

Hmmmmm

Nah

[languid knot]

if you like amd, go amd

especially with the new ones, they wont be bad

[lone pond]

IDK after you told me

no ray tracing new amd gpu

it's kinda bump me out

to me honest

[languid knot]

no I mean for the previous gen

Idk about next gen

[lone pond]

cpu ?

oh gpu

I was gonna get 5700xt

I was frustrating with my god damn laptop

can even run low 20fps

with almost everygame

but

I've to be patient and wait for new card

.............

[languid knot]

that does not have ray tracing. The new ones will I think

[lone pond]

Oh

I thought you said the new amd gpu

doesn't have ray tracing

I defintely would not get one in the 1st launch for sure

thanks to bot

[languid knot]

Not sure how bad it will be

the profit margins for marking up a $400-500 card is less

so who knows if people will do it

[lone pond]

500$ they will just sell it 1k

still profit

[languid knot]

No one would buy it

well, less people would

[lone pond]

I hope so

scalpers should die

..............

[languid knot]

because if you want to buy a 500 card, you probably dont have 1000 to spend

[limpid latch]

yea sites should remove posts like that over a certain percentage of cost

but they dont care its exposure and get a percentage, like ebay

[lone pond]

right yeay right

got it

I got what you meant

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Thats why I like Formula 1, they have the 107% rule

[lone pond]

I hope they have

pre-order

ah nvm

still the same

Formula 1 ?

[languid knot]

Yeah look at the new consoles

A racing series. The 107% rule is that if you arent within 107% of the best lap time, you cant race

So if the price was more that 107% of the MSRP, scalpers shouldnt be allowed to sell it

[lone pond]

ty

[limpid latch]

alot of these should been in store only like microcenter, obviously that would go bad on newegg, but it would be more like a blackfriday scenario

[lone pond]

in my state

microcenter has only 16

3080

then next week 10 more

and that's it

[limpid latch]

yea distribution gets a certain amount and they send out to stores n such

[lone pond]

that's really low

to be honest

Nvidia was kinda rushed

[languid knot]

Too risky with the current situation. If they told people there were a lot in stores, retailers would either get in trouble or have massive back ups due to spacing people out

A physical launch is almost impossible right now

[lone pond]

I'm happy that they pushed back the 1st launch

to prepare better

[limpid latch]

25 total microcenters, so split up on all

[lone pond]

LOL

they were like 100 people

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Think about Best Buy’s tho

[lone pond]

25 cards

god damn it

[limpid latch]

so they had like 400 total if 16 each