bots haven't been helpful thus far
#graphics-cards
high nimbus
worthy prawn
Neweggs bot protection kicked in for me when I used distill in chrome
high nimbus
they haven't notified me when things are in stock for a decent amount of time
and when they do the stock goes out too quick
foggy jasper
Oh wow zotac and PNY garbage dropping late
torpid oyster
high nimbus
I got a zotac on launch time
blissful tiger
What refresh rate @worthy prawn ?
worthy prawn
What refresh rate @worthy prawn ?
@blissful tiger 5 seconds, I know it's too much but I missed out on a drop at 10 seconds so I turned it up
blissful tiger
right yea 5s for me triggered it too
20s seems ok 🙂
still a lot faster and consistent than me and my F5 button lol
worthy prawn
20s seems ok 🙂
@blissful tiger 20 is way too slow tho, that's usually how long it takes to sell out completely
I got the bot protection thing even without distill for f5ing too fast
Their protection barely works for real bots
terse bloom
high nimbus
Yep
naive kelp
Welp
native tulip
high nimbus
From where bro
halcyon python
@native tulip i seen some videos where a 600w could handle a 3080, but i got a 750 just in case
languid knot
I’m getting a 850w just for a little headroom but 750 will be fine
I am wondering when Nvidia will restock, or at least how long they will. Will they stop selling the FE card soon?
halcyon python
apparently they restocked at midnight last night but i wasnt awake, idk about when theyll stop selling them
languid knot
No way it was midnight eatern
If so I am dumb
I was able to get the FE in my cart yesterday but recaptcha didnt work
high nimbus
It was 1et
high nimbus
Ya
lone pond
anyone know wtf best buy is doing
lone pond
ah
high nimbus
all the items say online order only, but you had to pick in store pickup for the items
lone pond
im calling all the ones around me seeing if they have any in stock
high nimbus
@lone pond I would set this to autorefresh
then I would have Nvidia 3080 page on refresh
rapid herald
are they going to release on 3080s today?
high nimbus
wouldn't waste any time with BB
lone pond
im doing 3090
high nimbus
then I would have the nvidia 3090 instead
lone pond
best buy is do dumb
high nimbus
why do you want a 3090?
stone raft
Only way to use best buy is through the app
high nimbus
interesting alright
stone raft
The site is trash
lone pond
?
high nimbus
bb for sure use the app
lone pond
didnt u get a 3090
silent vine
lone pond
what for?
high nimbus
got it off newegg the app
lone pond
xD
silent vine
Could you fix it?
high nimbus
@lone pond got it for my buddy since I couldn't get a 3080 yet, but benchmarks for gaming look even worse than I expected.
rapid herald
I know EVGA isnt, but is there any word on some 3080s dropping today?
high nimbus
seems like a waste of time
lone pond
im using a 1050 rn
high nimbus
are you sure a 3080 10gb won't work for you??
lone pond
?
lone pond
ya idk, 3090, 3080ti, or amd for me
rapid herald
yeah
lone pond
but i want the thicc ass card
rapid herald
is there any idea if any 3080s will drop today?
lone pond
smack it
rapid herald
I know EVGA isnt
lone pond
evga is not
rapid herald
ok
rapid herald
eh lol
lone pond
well good luck
rapid herald
u 2
lone pond
what monitor setup are you and ur buddy running
rapid herald
two, 1080p monitors. Main one is 144hz and then other is 60hz. My birthday is in novmeber where will be getting a 1440p 144hz monitor
rapid herald
yeah. Im going with a 3080
lone pond
nice
lone pond
that or w8 for 3070ti
languid knot
No one knows if it’s dropping
EVGA said no
So just check if you want one that bad
high nimbus
@rapid herald no one wants to wait that long, but some people probably will have to.
rapid herald
i have newegg and Nvidia auto refreshing
faint kindle
Wish they’d do a timed release so the bots wouldn’t get it before we even realize that they dropped lol
Granted probably wouldn’t make much of a difference
rapid herald
how did the 3090 release go?
faint kindle
But when I’ve got a job working 12hr shifts, I can’t just sit here and wait for the exact moment when they just so happen to drop
quasi geyser
I missed it, was the 3090 launch as much of a disaster as the 3080
faint kindle
oh it was out in minutes too lol
quasi geyser
But was it like instant
rapid herald
yeah i agree.@faint kindle I work a lot of night shifts. So I cant like prepare for when a card drops
and the usually release them later in the evening when im going in
faint kindle
From what I understand yes it was, I saw someone say 8:59-9:02 it was sold out
Yeah I work swing shifts so my sleep schedule is all over the place lmao
Hard to just randomly be on the website when they drop
Easy for bots that check it every 0.02 seconds though
rapid herald
yeah dude thats tough
quasi geyser
How long you think it’ll take to restock
rapid herald
3080 or 90?
quasi geyser
Any of em rlly
faint kindle
If it went the same as the 3080, they’ll have some in stock likely towards end of this week/beginning of next, but no one knows honestly
For the FE that is
languid knot
No one knows
rapid herald
well hopefully today. Nvidia dropped two batches yesterday
high nimbus
who knows but I'd say unlikely
still haven't processed some of the orders that people placed yesterday
seems like that was a masssssive drop
high nimbus
looks like the restocks are getting better and large though
rapid herald
if not nvidia
high nimbus
newegg is due for some 3080s tbh
rapid herald
yeah...nothing yesterday
spice prawn
you technically dont know if they got any
rapid herald
i was up till 1:05 central time...and they never out any up
high nimbus
oh absolutely total guess
spice prawn
just saying :)
logistics is "pure magic (the random chaos kind)" for people that dont deal with it
rapid herald
ok?
spice prawn
meaning, trying to predict it? dont bother
high nimbus
Pretty sure I saw Jeff announce some EVGA 3080s arriving to newegg either yesterday or today though. So hopefully we see that hit shelves soon.
oh that's part of the fun!
rapid herald
arriving as in going up? or newegg has reviecved some cards
spice prawn
there are some heavy algos being used to serve the specific segments that are predicted to give the best long term return
high nimbus
newegg receiving cards. I have no idea what their turnaround time is.
thing is we know they are getting some so it's worth keeping up to date
vale forge
Heading to BB today to return my Radeon Thick ll, then swinging by micro center to maybe pick up an EVGA 2070/80, unless the local one has some 30s 😂
spice prawn
if their logistic system is running remotely like any modern one? seconds @high nimbus
high nimbus
I'd believe that
faint kindle
Nice @vale forge good luck dude!
spice prawn
you (as a warehouse) do NOT want things on the shelves IF possible
faint kindle
Curious on AMDs gpu now though
faint kindle
Wonder how their launch will fare against this one
spice prawn
something in that range yes @high nimbus
rapid herald
Jacob said no restocks on the weekend....idk if that includes newegg or just the evga website
vale forge
Worse case I’ll have a card for 29 days and hopefully by then the 30s will be bountiful
high nimbus
ok so assuming they get roughly 4% on an $800 card that's $32 let's say they stock 50 during a restock that's $1,600. I wonder what the loss is on having the website go down every time they have a restock haha.
spice prawn
what you are seeing as down? does not mean it is down for everyone
rapid herald
no one is saying its down
high nimbus
true, but take the 3080 launch for example. Most people were reporting pretty significant downtime for about an hour. Wonder how many non-3080 sales they would have expected during that down time.
spice prawn
@rapid herald its a thought experiement that Caleb is talking about. So yes, in this context he is :)
aye aye, the launch itself hurt their bottom line
because something like "that" stops the normal flow of orders completely
but
there is a fair chance that the extra traffic leading up to it? and after? that would have made up for it (and they hope, added extra sales in general)
high nimbus
Plus all the OT support staff expense
spice prawn
well, elaborate on what extra support staff you think was working overtime @high nimbus ?
because stock is stock
faint kindle
Yeah, that’s true. I guess the generalization would be they may lose some sells but they’ll pick it up somewhere else. If someone was looking for an ssd but Newegg was down so they bought from Amazon instead, I imagine some people looking for the 3080 after refreshing for an hour and being upset that they couldn’t get it after all that time would potentially go into looking at Newegg’s stock and purchase something to make their time worthwhile, i.e., a psu
spice prawn
its "just" a box from the POV of the logistics system
high nimbus
Customer care and we store techs
spice prawn
"we" <-?
high nimbus
Web
high nimbus
For a launch? Seems bad idea not to
spice prawn
scaling it up "just because" is a BAD idea
high nimbus
Seems like you’d want all hands on deck. That probably includes some OT
spice prawn
yes, there would most likely have been some OT, and some of the managers that normally dont work on the frontline? yes, they would have been doing work on the front. But that is just like any other "high load" scenario
its not special as such
high nimbus
Yeah
spice prawn
but bringing in random people to work in that segment? no. You just dont do that unless you really really want to gamble with things
high nimbus
Just interesting to think about the cost of a high load especially when you get such a small amount of stock
spice prawn
oh yes :)
high nimbus
And every time you do restock plebs like us crash the site
spice prawn
its very fascinating to work with too :)
and no, i do not work for newegg @high nimbus
high nimbus
Can you get me on a Newegg preorder tho? @naed
rapid herald
@spice prawn who do u work with?
spice prawn
cannot tell you that @rapid herald
faint kindle
I’m wondering if theyre not selling preorder stock of 3080s because they know it’s gonna be marked up at a later date lol
high nimbus
He does secret server hosting for secret orgs
spice prawn
i have about 10 nda's that i am fairly certain would summon the armies of heck and kingdom come IF i breach them @rapid herald
high nimbus
You know the cure to cancer? He’s got in on server B
lean flicker
spice prawn
:P
lean flicker
Im in
languid knot
You know the cure to cancer? He’s got in on server B
@high nimbus no he’s still alive
rapid herald
oh....well....can you just tell us if any 3080s will be coming today? although Idk who you work for haha
@spice prawn
rapid herald
and?
rapid herald
yeah so then I can be ready!
spice prawn
i just enjoy talking about this topic in general (what Caleb was talking about, because as he said, its interesting stuff)
stone raft
Be prepared!!!
high nimbus
Woops
spice prawn
hehe :)
terse bloom
I only read like half before it got deleted lol
high nimbus
@rapid herald why don’t you just buy a 20 series already and apply to step up
high nimbus
You have a 14 day return policy so if you get one sooner you can just return it.
rapid herald
and if i cant get a 3080 ill do it
high nimbus
You don’t have a graphics card right?
rapid herald
no
high nimbus
Oh you do? Then never mind
rapid herald
no i dont
spice prawn
@rapid herald what Caleb is suggesting would allow you to actually have fun
high nimbus
If I didn’t get a 3080 at launch I would have just done the step up
Instead of refreshing the page for days on end....
languid knot
I’m only waiting for the FE
halcyon python
^
spice prawn
how is the testing going btw @high nimbus ?
languid knot
That’s why I haven’t
high nimbus
@spice prawn doing build on Friday
high nimbus
Ya
languid knot
Caleb you got the 3090 right?
spice prawn
calendar looks free at the moment
languid knot
Congrats btw, which one?
terse bloom
Meh. I'm reusing my old 1080 from a prior build. I have considered getting a 2080Super, so I can put my 1080 back in the old pc to make it useable again, but at same time, don't really need to have a second PC just yet.
high nimbus
Zotac
languid knot
Niceee
faint kindle
2080s is still a solid card
high nimbus
1080 doesn’t play?
faint kindle
I think a lot of people got so caught up in the hype that they forgot the 2080s and ti are still very very useable lol
Including myself
high nimbus
Why do you even need to replace the 1080?
terse bloom
I have 2 PC but only 1 GPU between the two.
languid knot
I was wanting a 3080 so bad that I was willing to get anyone. But after I took a step back I really want the FE so I will just be patient
spice prawn
@faint kindle nvidia LOVES you (the general you) for that
halcyon python
at this point i bought a cheap rx 560 used and is gonna wait for amd before picking a new gpu
languid knot
I would also go with an older card, but I don’t have the pc yet so I can just wait
faint kindle
high nimbus
Why do you want the FE so bad
spice prawn
IF i was to get any of the cards, it would be a FE model, because i would want to go water with that small PCB in there
terse bloom
So it's not that I'm replacing the 1080, it's that the 1080is acting as a substitute for my new build right now. Which means my old build has no GPU, making it unuseable until I get a new GPU.
high nimbus
Interesting take
faint kindle
If I were to get one it’d have to be FE or equivalent size, only have 300mm clearance in my case for gpu, FE is 285
spice prawn
Caleb / mine or?
faint kindle
I think the zotac trinity is quit a bit larger, like ~318mm
languid knot
Why do you want the FE so bad
@high nimbus asking me?
high nimbus
Ya
languid knot
I want it for the look tbh. I really like it more than any of the other cards and it’s less expensive (slightly)
high nimbus
@spice prawn hadn’t heard such a strong opinion towards FE. Seems like a really good point.
terse bloom
And my plan was to let my GF use my old PC, i7-6700k and the 1080 for her work, game, and streams. While I played around on my i9-10850k and (hopefully 3080)
spice prawn
ah :)
high nimbus
And there you were two weeks ago telling me water cooling wasn’t worth the price for what you get.
terse bloom
But since I didn't get a 3080, she can't use the 1080.
high nimbus
Ah geez
rapid herald
Its basically eye candy
spice prawn
conetext context context Caleb :)
high nimbus
I’ll get the thermals I want on the xc3 so I don’t really care
spice prawn
aye aye
and the water on the FE would NOT be to try and OC it
it would be a "just because i can"
languid knot
The FE has thermals that are just fine right?
high nimbus
I think it cools well but also runs hot. That hot air has to go somewhere.
languid knot
I am getting the 4000d airflow so I should be fine
high nimbus
@spice prawn I have an offer to swap xc3 for FE. Is that something to consider?
languid knot
for the 3080?
spice prawn
water does not make the heat disappear, it just moves it further way
@high nimbus dont.
high nimbus
Y
faint kindle
I like the look of the 3080 strix, it’s $150 more than FE but I’ve read a bit faster too
faint kindle
spice prawn
we "know" how it performs with that style of cooler (that the xc3 has)
languid knot
Ill buy it 
terse bloom
Yeah, I've read that too. Has the highest overclock.
high nimbus
But maybe FE water cooled changes that
spice prawn
your m1 is very special.
high nimbus
@languid knot are you telling me to swap my xc3 for FE and then selling you the FE lmao
languid knot
Yes
spice prawn
the "highest" OC does not mean much if anything.
languid knot
Big brain move
high nimbus
5k IQ
spice prawn
the chip is so power limited it is not remotely funny
high nimbus
I’ll sell it to you for $100 
languid knot
Ezzzzz
high nimbus
@spice prawn how do we know xc3 is a better fit for M1? That’s not fully clear to me yet
languid knot
IS that the 3080 or 3090 btw?
spice prawn
style of cooling
rapid herald
I think Best buy just had a 3080 in stock
high nimbus
3080 xc3
rapid herald
gigabyte
high nimbus
What’s the difference
languid knot
Ah man, using it for a build?
spice prawn
@high nimbus style of cooling = the exact same style of cooling that has been used on AIB cards since before the m1 was even made .)
gray narwhal
Sooo like my when I oc my 1070 I literally get a decrease in performance, it’s not thermal throttling bc I barely even do it by a few mhz and max the fans any clue what’s going on
spice prawn
@high nimbus "What’s the difference" <- for me?
you are hitting the power limit @gray narwhal
@gray narwhal but ask in #overclocking if you are curious about more details and potential help with it :)
gray narwhal
Ok I gotcha thanks man
spice prawn
np :)
languid knot
Naed are you getting a 30 series?
languid knot
Good point. I feel anyone with a 2080 or so shouldnt? Unless you want 4k
terse bloom
I just need a second card, that's all. Kind of wanted a "Best bang for your buck", which was only reason I wanted a 3080.
That, and every time I've mentioned, getting a 2080Super, people here and my gaming buddies, kept telling me just wait for 3080 to restock
languid knot
If I cant get the FE before the zen 3 I might wait for the new ryzen 7
Im worried itll be more expensive than the 3700x
gray narwhal
What do y’all I should upgrade first my r7 2700 or my gtx 1070
dense flicker
1070
that 2700 will still be good for a while
gpus outdate faster
just make sure you have the PSU to power it all
spice prawn
quick catch it, its a free roaming @dense flicker
dense flicker
i got nothing else to do right now
spice prawn
ah :)
dense flicker
waiting till 11:40 to take a makeup test because i woke up too late.
spice prawn
just so very rare to see you around these parts :)
granite juniper
idk 2 minutes is enough for lunch just be fast
spice prawn
dont worry, he will gladly take the credit :)
dense flicker
the microwave mac n cheese i have takes 8 minutes in the microwave
and then it has to stand 1 minute after
¯_(ツ)_/¯
ill just eat after
the test should only take 20 minutes, so ill have about 30 minutes left in my lunch break
spice prawn
test in what Zach?
languid knot
Good luck!
vale forge
@rapid herald didn’t you say you where gonna hit up that micro center in Westmont?
rapid herald
I was going to but I live chated with them, and they said they werent getting any in. So i didnt even bother
languid knot
gaming theres the gigabyte one at bb
vale forge
Ahh
rapid herald
that $750 one right?
rapid herald
yeah I tried to add it to my cart earlier and it was out of stock
faint kindle
Can’t add it to cart, sold out already
rapid herald
yep same
languid knot
Best Buy is then worst for bot prevention
rapid herald
yeah i dont think they even care tbh
languid knot
it doesnt affect them
halcyon python
ive got nowinstock discord notifications and it told me it was
im glad im starting to get more notifications from them lol, means people aren't as quick to buying everything now
sacred radish
is an rx 580 8gb better or worse than a 1660 super
halcyon python
@sacred radish https://gpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/Nvidia-GTX-1660S-Super-vs-AMD-RX-580/4056vs3923
sacred radish
okay so thats a no thank you
halcyon python
np, i used that site a lot initially just to get a feel for what outperformed what
lone pond
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and so i did to
and i got insta banned
lone pond
xD but i expected atleast a warning
languid knot
No warning for fox
lone pond
hahaha
lone pond
NOW IM BUYING BIG NAVI😡
vale forge
@halcyon python what’s nowinstock? A separate discord server?
rapid herald
Newegg Just went down...hmmmmm
languid knot
yes
rapid herald
and NVidia is acting really slow
languid knot
Bruh the nvidia discord is so bad
literally hundreds of people crying about the card
rapid herald
no im talking about the website
languid knot
I was seeing what it was like and its bad
halcyon python
@vale forge yea i went to nowinstock.net and from there there was the discord link
languid knot
Can you add a payment method to Nvidia?
vale forge
Appreciate it @halcyon python
high nimbus
nowinstock has been worthless for me thus far
hopefully as time windows widen it'll be helpfull.
halcyon python
np, the website updates every minute, but as we know stuff sells out before then, and in the chance that it doesnt sell out between minutely updates, itll ping on the discord too
its nice to have i think, its been a little slow for me too but eventually it should be helpful
spice prawn
please use logic on that @halcyon python :)
vendor gets stock
website gets information
you get message from website
VS
website gets stock
you check vendor
halcyon python
i mean believe me i was f5-ing the first few days along w everyone else but was getting tired of it lol
now i can do work and occasionally get a ping
spice prawn
then dont expect different results
high nimbus
@spice prawn newegg for me is constantly redirecting to a 404 error on their website
high nimbus
incognito mode fixes the error
halcyon python
i know ill get one eventually lol, im just not in a rush anymore
languid knot
Bruh imagine how the 3070 launch is gonna be
spice prawn
@halcyon python if you are not in a rush, then yes, that website can work for you
@languid knot lots and lots of clucking by the local poultry population.
languid knot
Ah I can’t wait. It’ll take the hype off the 3080 at least for a bit
clever folio
any1 know where to get 3080 founders edition?
halcyon python
yea its fine for me to wait, i got a temp card lol
languid knot
Nvidia or Best Buy
halcyon python
gonna see if amd gonna beat out the 30 series
clever folio
but there both sold out
spice prawn
@clever folio patience is your answer
clever folio
but do u know if there going to restock or any other shops that have them in stock
clever folio
sad 😦
clever folio
i was going to order the 2nd day it came out and it was sold out everywhere
languid knot
Yep. It won’t be readily available for about a month I feel
languid knot
They are the same
clever folio
rlly
languid knot
FE stands for founders edition
languid knot
That’s the one I want too
clever folio
ik
languid knot
It’s a good card
clever folio
ye
rapid herald
neweeg is down again...
languid knot
I gave up on them for now. Plus they don’t have the FE
rapid herald
tbh idc which one i get at this point
languid knot
Then you’ll get one soon
haughty forge
best thing to do and what i did is buy an evga a card then use their step up program and you wont have to fight scalpers or anything
rapid herald
yeah i may do that. Its 90 days right?
haughty forge
thats how i got my EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 FTW3 ULTRA
thuis morning
ya its 90 days once you start the step up your locked in
languid knot
Idk if I want to get an EVGA card but I might if I can’t get one by then end of October
rapid herald
so its basically like doing a pre-rder then right? Cause you get put into a que until your ticket is pulled essentially?
languid knot
Yes
haughty forge
I switched my 2080ti out with their step up program
Its the smart thing to do honestly
haughty forge
then you dont have to wait for a notification and then miss it
languid knot
Yep. If you want an EVGA card I’d do that
rapid herald
what if the card i buy is over $700? do i just get one of theirs for free?
haughty forge
cause right now its going to be at random when cards are back in stock and with the high demand its going to be hard to grab one
languid knot
You’ll lose money
rapid herald
yeah ik. I was just asking. Cuz thats worse case scenario
high nimbus
@rapid herald dude buy like a 2060S from EVGA it'll hold you over
languid knot
If it’s less you pay the difference, if it’s more you don’t get a refund
high nimbus
@rapid herald you pay the difference in retail. Currently they only offer the FTW3 ultra for step up, which I believe is one of the better 3080s. It is more expensive though.
rapid herald
ill do some shopping aorund. I may get a 2060 or a 2070
haughty forge
i had to pay 549 dollar difference for the 3090 since my 2080ti was only 1249 dollars
but thats better than paying 1800 plus tax
high nimbus
yeah their 3090s are way over the MSRP
haughty forge
ill take 549 any day
high nimbus
why wouldn't you just step up to the 3080?
languid knot
Welcome to custom board cards that are made for workstation loads
high nimbus
oh yeah you had the TI
makes sense
could always get the 3090 and sell it and buy a 3080
should have told them you wanted to step up to 2 3080s lmao
rapid herald
BB has a EVGA 2070 super for $580
haughty forge
i wish you could lol
high nimbus
@rapid herald buy from EVGA directly bro
@rapid herald you can probably get put on the step up program early
high nimbus
call EVGA and see if you place an order will they put you on step up instantly. If not go to bb and buy whatever.
haughty forge
im working on switching over to a threadripper cpu from my ryzen 3700 just gotta save up the 3,500
rapid herald
aight good call
high nimbus
why do you need to get it from BB?
blissful tiger
Going for a 3080, not really picky about brand other than 'not zotac'. My 10700 arrives today. I know I'll definitely be CPU bound over GPU bound but is the CPU sufficient you think?
rapid herald
cuz its down the street and i can build my pc today
high nimbus
eh then do that not a bad idea
languid knot
I’d just do that
high nimbus
you should be able to step up once you have the card in hand
haughty forge
once you buy an evga card you can use step up next day
high nimbus
I was thinking you'd need BB to ship it to you
rapid herald
mine has one
high nimbus
yeah just go get that and then enroll the card in step up
then you can start playing pretty much everything you want and don't have to wait
just keep in mind you have to buy the $800 3080 not the XC3
as it currently standfs
EVGA GeForce RTX 3080 FTW3 ULTRA GAMING, 10G-P5-3897-KR, 10GB GDDR6X, iCX3 Technology, ARGB LED, Metal Backplate (10G-P5-3897-KR) (PDF)
that is the only 3080 available for step up at this time
haughty forge
EVGA GeForce RTX 3080 FTW3 ULTRA GAMING, 10G-P5-3897-KR, 10GB GDDR6X, iCX3 Technology, ARGB LED, Metal Backplate
thats the one you get for step up
for the 3080
rapid herald
oh not the $700?
haughty forge
so find a card close to that price
high nimbus
no he doesn't need to
rapid herald
what happens if i do it and there isnt a 3080 available for the 90 days? then im screwed?
high nimbus
once you submit a step up ticket they'll honor it
languid knot
It just has to be registers
rapid herald
oh ok good
high nimbus
the timeline for when you'll get it is unknown
you just have to get in queue by the 90 days of purchase or whatever
rapid herald
ok
high nimbus
also check BB's return policy
potentially could return the 2070 if Nvidia or somewhere else drops massive stock next week or something
rapid herald
true
rapid herald
oooh
round mason
supposedly
rapid herald
which one
round mason
its called cdw
high nimbus
but what's more important is you get back to doing things you enjoy instead of refreshing windows
round mason
supposedly
high nimbus
totally possible man
round mason
my province is to receive 50 asus tuf
round mason
uh yea its a pre-order
high nimbus
well that's something
high nimbus
asus tuff seems to be V popular
round mason
and ik what their stock situation is looking like
high nimbus
that's a good sign as well
haughty forge
this is what an agent told me at Evga
Jose C 09:37
There is no eta unfortunately, it can take weeks or a couple of months but this is based on previous launches.
rapid herald
for a restock? Jacob said next week
languid knot
The agents know nothing tbh
They give them a script
I wouldn’t take that as the truth
high nimbus
Agents are given the most broad and lowest expectations possible. It's worthless following that.
high nimbus
They don't want to overpromise anything
haughty forge
i was just passing along what he said
spice prawn
they are there to make certain that you dont flip the lid and in general are okay/happy with the brand
dreamy dragonBOT
Nemes1sz#0151 has been warned
haughty forge
bad info
spice prawn
aye aye
haughty forge
oops
spice prawn
and i am just giving some context for the people here :)
high nimbus
a big life skill is the ability to talk to a customer support agent and get them to put you in touch with someone that can actually solve your issue.
haughty forge
It was early for me i just wanted a quick answer at the time lol
went to bed late last night due to watching netflix slepted like 4 hours then got up and put my order in
high nimbus
a lot of people have still not had their nvidia order fulfilled
looks like those are effectively pre-orders for when they get stock of the FE next. Still too early to confirm.
languid knot
I think that’s good by Nvidia. More back orders like people want without saying it upfront
vale forge
@rapid herald hit up that micro center near you bud. They’ve got a 30 day return policy no questions asked. Sign up for the step up program, if you get your hands on a 3080 before the step up return the 2070. If you don’t then you have the step up as a back up.
fluid star
so 3090 was a big hype ?
languid knot
Wym?
vale forge
@fluid star If you mean is it worth the money...then no. It’s got a 10-15% advantage over the 3080. And with over a 100% markup...yeaaa not really worth getting unless you got money in you wallet burning a hole through it
languid knot
It’s not for gaming even tho they try and say it is. It’s more for devs or workstation applications
green harness
The performance of the top end card(s) never scales smoothly with the price increase though right? There's always a premium for the "best of the best"
The 3090 seems like it may be worse than usual in that regard, but it's not like you would normally expect 2x performance
clear plover
NVidia confirmed my order 
sharp sapphire
Congrats
vale forge
Nice. Now snag one of us one so we can pay msrp + a tip lol
spice prawn
@devout pebble ask your question. IF someone has the time/desire/knowledge to answer, they will
devout pebble
Ok so I have a PNY GTX 1060 6GB but its apparently not for sale anywhere and I wanna know why it's so expensive
Its the Dell PNY GTX 1060 6GB CG edition
spice prawn
its not being made anymore and its a OEM part
devout pebble
Yes and some places are selling it for $800
spice prawn
the original price for that card (back in 2016) was roughly 250usd
i dont need the link
spice prawn
because someone is hoping someone will pay that amount
it does not "cost" the vendor selling the card anything to put a silly price on it
devout pebble
but multiple places have the same range
devout pebble
well is it a good card?
spice prawn
its old
devout pebble
mmm
spice prawn
and i would not pay 250 for it now
spice prawn
depends on the user
devout pebble
like what there trying to do?
spice prawn
aye
spice prawn
its a fine gaming card if you are not trying to push too high resolution
or framerate
devout pebble
mmm ok
thanks
I was wondering what was with this card for a while lol
have u ever heard of it before?
like it is uncommon
spice prawn
as in: have i heard about that specific model?
devout pebble
yes
spice prawn
its just "oem" model X
devout pebble
like is it or was it a common card
spice prawn
its not special
there are most likely thousands and thousands of machines with that card
devout pebble
damn why does newegg sell it for like 500
devout pebble
hhahahaha
spice prawn
third party seller most likely
spice prawn
IF it is a direct from newegg sale, they are being VERY silly
and they should know better than that
devout pebble
good point
green harness
If you needed to replace your 1060 you could just get a newer more powerful card most likely
So yeah, silly prices, but you don't need to pay it fortunately
devout pebble
well I need to upgrade everything but first is cpu
which means
motherboard and ram
soo....
whatchu think?
devout pebble
how much u think I need?
rain sand
Who got the 3090 today? 😂 😂
languid knot
Ive thought about getting a 3080 but still havent been able to 😂
rain sand
lmao, I got all my parts ready for the 3070, but ima get the 3070 in like January or so. Till then im going to use the 1070 ti mini
languid knot
I’m thinking about ordering my parts now then I’ll just need the 3080
But idk if I want them just sitting around not being used
lean flicker
Ur parts are gonna be in a box
languid knot
They’ll be sitting there teasing me
stone raft
Lol nvidia about to talk about the 3080 and 3090...I might watch to see the forest fire in the comments.
languid knot
Where?
stone raft
stone raft
So much eye rolling that you entered a loop?
stone raft
Lol
spice prawn
"despite power going up a little bit"
gah!
"fastest ever GPU tested"
no
just factually wrong
fastest GAMING GPU tested? yeah sure.
upper mural
Well. Is it wrong?
spice prawn
the first one? yes
the second one is true
which is why i said "yeah sure" up there
upper mural
I watched a few reviews.. I was really turned off
Just the power consumption alone has me like wait for Big Navi
spice prawn
Rnda2 aint going to pull less imo
upper mural
Im ok to wait for results. Ill be more in the 3080 range when i buy one
languid knot
Big Navi might beat out Nvidia from the 400-600 price range and they might beat the 3090
I don’t know if they could compete with the 3080 but they could
spice prawn
i dont see a technical reason for them not being able to
granite juniper
i just want a good price lol
spice prawn
gah! @stone raft i blame you for this headache
languid knot
I think they have the hardware to, software on the other hand was lacking last gen
spice prawn
sony and ms are going to adapt raytracing ...
well DUH!
its a MS spec you are building it on
languid knot
spice prawn
and in case people are confused about my comments, click the youtube link above
just do yourself a favour and close the chat
languid knot
I like the 8k gaming selling feature yet it’s not really 8k 
brisk flame
linus did both native 8k and DLSS 2.0 8k upscaling from 1440p, they both played at a consistent 60fps
languid knot
They did? I thought it was more like 40-50?
spice prawn
@brisk flame where did you get the consistent 60fps part from?
specifically for native
brisk flame
when he played doom
spice prawn
you mean the read out in the upper left?
brisk flame
also obv the settings given by nvidia were meant to do that
stone raft
gah! @stone raft i blame you for this headache
@spice prawn lol sorry
brisk flame
oh, well then, he tested games at native 8k, and with DLSS 2.0 upscaling, using the game settings sent by nvidia, both hit 60fps for the most part
spice prawn
did he say 60fps?
brisk flame
yes
spice prawn
because i cannot see any on screen number that reflects that
stone raft
I'd get a big navi...I just have such bad experiences with AMD updates. Like losing sound until the next update.
brisk flame
magic prism
Any drops lately?
magic prism
F
spice prawn
will listen when this stream is done, thank you @brisk flame
languid knot
I’m looking for the FE tho so don’t just listen to me
brisk flame
oh hahaha are you still watching that??
granite juniper
lol idk what people are obsessing over 8k performance (besides proving claims)
brisk flame
kek
spice prawn
i am, because i am curious how much bs they are willing to push out
languid knot
Cards are cards, but I like the FE the most and it’s expensive so I want the one I like 😛
brisk flame
yeah, 8k is super niche rn, so the 3090 isnt even worth it for gaming at this point
granite juniper
ya thats what i meant by claims
magic prism
FE is clean
spice prawn
oh that is a spicy question!
granite juniper
but even 4k isnt the greatest for gaming rn with a reasonable prices lol 8k still has a while to go
magic prism
I feel like if you went no RGB the FE would be the move
spice prawn
"what will Direct IO change in the gaming landscape"
languid knot
It is. I like the understated look and it cools okay. I’m doing a small amount of rgb
Just on the ram, gpu, and cpu cooler
magic prism
Literally the only RGB I have is my ram and backlight on my MB
Disregarding my keyboard and mouse
languid knot
I’m getting the 3700x so it’ll have rgb on that
magic prism
3950x 😉
languid knot
But I’ll probably keep them at one color
rapid herald
any word on 3080 drops today?
languid knot
Any pics of the build? You can send them to me if you want but that sounds nice
stone raft
What 8k games are out?
spice prawn
congrats Nvidia marketing person. You just repeated both MS and Sony console bullet points
granite juniper
fh4 and doom ik do true 8k idk about others
stone raft
Interesting
rapid herald
who did?
spice prawn
scroll up
spice prawn
scroll up to the link for the livestream i am watching and commenting on
granite juniper
rapid herald
oh
spice prawn
and yes, "oh woes is us, we sold out! ooops! (please keep on buying cards thou!)"
granite juniper
hm bs or no on him saying they had more ampere cards than turing
spice prawn
the statement "more" is true when they have 1 more than the previous launch
"why no preorders?"
answer: "we have heard you, but ... yeah, pesronally i would love if it was like that, but yeah"
rapid herald
meaning they wont
spice prawn
translation: because you asked? i am ofc very very sorry, but as a company, we are selling all we are making
granite juniper
lol naed u should ask questions in chat
rapid herald
Best buy doesnt count lol
spice prawn
but they (HotHardware) are not willing to ask the questions (or more likely, they have a list of things he has said he wont talk about)
rapid herald
there awful
granite juniper
ic
spice prawn
and holy heck the Marketing department of nvidia just scored 51 minutes of free PR
spice prawn
what i said earlier
rapid herald
oh
spice prawn
and yes, eye roll loop achieved @stone raft
thank you!
or something
mainly "or something"
:P
stone raft
Lmfao, I'm in a loop now
stone raft
Np
restive grove
Hey Guys, how did the 3090 launch go?
languid knot
They cant with all the restrictions
restive grove
well there wont be a consumer market left if they don't
curbside pickup is way better than no sales at all
drowsy bramble
The retailers got their money
maiden plinth
it's not just COVID restrictions
drowsy bramble
Sale happened
maiden plinth
#tariffs
restive grove
I'll never pay a scalper even 10% over retail
languid knot
they are selling
west relic
faint kindle
lmao
languid knot
what do you mean? people without bots have cards
faint kindle
Man, gigabyte just dropped on Best Buy, missed it yet again
agile parrot
Had one in my cart but it got canceled
faint kindle
Yeah, had one in my cart but it wouldn’t let me switch off of “select a store for pickup” to “deliver”
And then by the time it did it was sold out
terse bloom
Same. Had it in cart. Clicked paypal checkout, out of stock.
languid knot
Its almost impossible to get one from best buy
they dont have bot prevention like nvidia or evga
faint kindle
and they refuse to add it, seemingly
languid knot
no
rapid herald
Hopefully tomorrow. If not we have to wait till next week
high nimbus
Newegg listed some gigabytes this evening
Amazon listed some zotacs
@languid knot bb sucks I told you that
They tell you you can’t order something online but also can’t book in store when it’s in stock
F that
round mason
man they gotta drop the 2080ti prices
high nimbus
I bet Nvidia restocks late afternoon Friday
round mason
aint nobody buying those new anymore
restive grove
btw aren't scalpers racketeers, and isn't racketeering a crime..
high nimbus
Lmao what
restive grove
but they buy everything out of stock, and resell at triple the retail price or more
restive grove
mass bot purchases isn't capitalism
high nimbus
restive grove
so buy a retail 5700 xt and forget the rtx 3000 series
languid knot
if they are the supply, they will make the money. If there is no demand for them selling it at a higher price then they will stop trying
high nimbus
Amd Card gonna be just just as good as 3080 at $539
restive grove
so basically wait for their sticky fingers to tire
high nimbus
restive grove
but there wont be any amd cards
languid knot
yep lol
Also, the amd card will not beat out the 3080 at 540
or else the 3090 is even more of a waste
rapid herald
No buying and reselling to make profit is capitalism
restive grove
thats the amd rx 6000 series right?
rapid herald
@high nimbus you think they'll have more tomorrow?
high nimbus
Gst -6
languid knot
true true. Needs to be on that world time
high nimbus
Not everywhere is Murca
high nimbus
Green sus
faint kindle
rapid herald
lol
stone raft
Bb is bull...their app been crashing for a few hours
rapid herald
BB is literally pathetic for the launch. Idk why they even bothered
languid knot
Like I said, why should they care? it doesnt make them the money
spice prawn
@rapid herald if there is anything that is ... lacking ... its the logical thinking ability of people.
gilded dock
is newegg getting drops today at all?
high nimbus
newegg dropped some asus tuf 3090 and giabyte 3080 tthis event
rapid herald
@spice prawn wym by that?
high nimbus
evening
rapid herald
what time was the 3080? I saw BB had it and of course it didnt work
Ive been on my computer all day and never saw anything
gilded dock
newegg sent me email about the gigabyte and no stock showed for the last 2 hours
high nimbus
@rapid herald it's 3090 launch day cmon bruh you knew 3080 restocks were gonna be low
@rapid herald just do EVGA step up already stop being pleb
high nimbus
like 6:30 cst
spice prawn
nah, you had a field day throwing baseless insults around.
more thinking, less typing please.
rapid herald
@spice prawn me?
high nimbus
restive grove
back before gaming
stone raft
Lol
royal copper
don't avoid filter plz, this pg13
stone raft
Lol gotcha
spice prawn
then delete or edit that previous post of yours :)
languid knot
I deleted what I said because this isnt a channel to have the conversation I was having in
spice prawn
@stone raft still waiting :)
restive grove
my bad, video before gaming
You know I dropped back in my email to post a newegg customer survey..
I told it was great but thank god I wasn't trying to buy a RTX 3080
rapid herald
@restive grove huh?
stone raft
Oh I thought techies had power to delete
restive grove
i ranted about how after making over six thousand in purchases on newegg i cant buy a rtx from them]\
stone raft
That must be heart breaking
languid knot
Congrats
naive kelp
any word on a 3080 restock?
exotic bolt
I was os afraid they would cancle my order
languid knot
Not that ive seen
naive kelp
idk why a gpu would be sent without the box lol
languid knot
Im just checking nvidia cause I want the FE tho
naive kelp
Yeah the FE looks so clean and has good cooling for the price
spare relic
Gpu sent in tin foil wrap taped closed with scotch tape
languid knot
False you got it from Nvidia right?
languid knot
Any way to add payment info or only when checking out?
naive kelp
still decent for a FE
compared to dishing out $100+ extra
plus it would also depend on how much cooling you have in your setup as well no?
tuf cooler but less on the performance no?
naive kelp
as compared to the other mods
dreamy dragonBOT
Davgnar#8784 has been warned
naive kelp
ah snapple
dang i'm cursing too much rip
I want an evga ftw3 tbh
but i'll take a founder or tuf
languid knot
I want a founders but if its late october and I still dont have one I will go with evgA
exotic bolt
So I think I just won the lottery on getting in there at the exact moment I panicked when it actually let me get to check out. Luckily I have all my billing information besides my card saved in chrome so I didnt have to fill out the form. All I had to do once I entered my name was mad dash to enter my credit card numbers
languid knot
Okay that makes me feel better
naive kelp
What broke my heart was the application lol