graphics-cards

[round mason]

it sits at 130 it went down cos i alt tabbed

my gpu seems to be chillin when playing league

[mighty island]

[raven flame]

My friend was going to buid a computer but was wondering if the i7 9700k would bottleneck with the rtx 3080 and I told him that it shouldn't, but i wanted to make sure here before I tell him to buy anything

[mighty island]

it will in horizon zero dawn and star citizen

that's about it

extremely multithreaded games

[raven flame]

are both games really cpu intensive?

oh ok

thank you 🙂

[mighty island]

in pretty much every game the 9700K is still going to be a chart topper

we are just starting to see games where it suffers from its low thread count

[raven flame]

what would be a good cpu to combine the rtx 3080 with because I have thought about upgrading aswell

[mighty island]

depends on resolution

[raven flame]

most likely 1080p

[mighty island]

probably want at least an i5-10600K for 1080p

for 1440p a ryzen 5 3600 is good

[raven flame]

would the i5 10600k be the cheapest option?

[mighty island]

if your current cpu is decent you can wait until AMD releases zen 3 to see if that changes the landscape

[raven flame]

my current is the i5 8600k

but i think im sticking to intel

[mighty island]

right now i'd say if you're targetting 1080p extreme refresh rate gaming with a 3080, then yes you should target 10600K minimum

look at the product not the brand

[raven flame]

no i say that because I have an intel mobo

[mighty island]

doesn't matter because your mobo doesn't support 10th gen lol

[blazing sigil]

oof

[mighty island]

if you have a decent Z390 mobo and strong cooler and don't want to change mobo you could consider a 9700K/9900K

[raven flame]

oh wait as you can tell im really good with this stuff............................

[mighty island]

might end up being cheaper than the platform change

your mobo is compatible with 8th gen and 9th gen

[raven flame]

I have a z390 gaming plus and a nzxt x53 aio cooler

[mighty island]

8th/9th gen = LGA1151v2 socket, 300 series chipsets
10th/11th gen = LGA1200 socket, 400 series chipsets

and then 12th gen will need another new motherboard with LGA1700 socket and presumably 500 series chipsets

Z390 gaming plus is a little budget for the 9900K, it'll run but it probably won't overclock to full potential

[raven flame]

?

[mighty island]

that's thermal imaging on a Z390 gaming plus running 9900K showing hotspots beyond 303F/150C

not ideal

i feel like this conversation is straying too far away from graphics cards now though

[raven flame]

oh shoot sorry

[mighty island]

depending on the game your 8600K will be fine with the 3080... but it's heavily game dependent

[ripe elk]

could i use a 3070 on a 1080p

[mighty island]

even a ryzen 5 3600 should be able to keep up with a 3070 decently well at 1080p

an intel chip would do a little bit better

[ripe elk]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/KDp6vW like this

[mighty island]

but the 3600 will hold up well

[raven flame]

I usually play fps games like rainbow six siege, valorant, and modern warfare

[mighty island]

yes seems fine

[ripe elk]

ok ty

[mighty island]

ah okay so you're not playing the insanely graphically undemanding games like csgo

[raven flame]

oh wait and cs

[mighty island]

ah

honestly i would just grab the 3080 and wait to see how zen 3 lands before thinking about upgrading your 8600K

it's not a bad chip

[raven flame]

ok and here where the dumb side of me shines because I have no knowledge of bottlenecking

if the cpu bottlenecks really bad will it be bad for the gpu aswell? im sorry, I feel like its a dumb question but im not sure

[mighty island]

no not at all

the gpu just won't hit 100% load because it's waiting for the cpu

[raven flame]

ah i see

[mighty island]

every pc has a bottleneck somewhere by definition even if it's small

no bottleneck would mean infinite performance

bottleneck does not damage anything

less informed doesn't equal dumb, that's why you came to a server to ask for help

sure

[high nimbus]

have anyone released a 3080 FE/3080 XC3 Ncase M1 review?

[granite juniper]

https://www.reddit.com/r/sffpc/comments/iuxuip/happy_to_announce_that_the_evga_xc3_rtx_3080_fits/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf

probably better temps with deshroud+fans

[high nimbus]

ya no fans on that

[granite juniper]

hmm

A good way to tell if your card is a candidate for deshrouding is to look at it from the I/O side. If the shroud and fans are the only thing extending beyond the second slot then you might be able to deshroud depending on sink length, height, and power connection locations.```

[grave vapor]

yo

i need helpp

[bitter jungle]

hey guys how good is Nvenc on a GTX 970? My friend wants me to build a PC for him and he wants so livestream, so should i get a 970 or a 1060 (3gb probably). 1060 would probably be a little more but i know its newer...

[round mason]

Man just get him a 2060

Nvenc 1 is not that good

[bitter jungle]

he has a teeny weeny budget

$360 (without case he already has that)

so i gotta go mostly used

2060 out of the question lol

[round mason]

Then maybe he should save up some money first before he starts thinking about streaming

When 30 series fully releases

20 series will drop in price

[bitter jungle]

mhmm

doubt i could get a 2060 for 100 tho

[round mason]

Buying older than that is just not worth anymore

[bitter jungle]

wdymmmmm

older hardware best hardware

[round mason]

For casually gaming yes

But if hes planning on streaming

[bitter jungle]

its probably not intense streaming either btw, like 720p probably

and i have a 1600 AF + RX 570. I stream pretty well

from cpu that is

so idk if i should focus on cpu or gpu for that

[round mason]

What games will he be playing

[bitter jungle]

light ones i think

like minecraft n stuff

cant remember tho

[round mason]

Ah i see. Well then a good cpu should be the priority

[bitter jungle]

so like a ryzen 1600 would be better for streaming than a 1060?

[round mason]

Yea

But he should still try to get a decent gpu

Like he can stream but the question is what will be the performance hit for himself at the cost of streaming

[bitter jungle]

idk

[round mason]

Try building around that cpu

And see what gpu u can pair with it within the budget restraint

[bitter jungle]

alright will do, thanks for the info

maybe ill see if i can even fit a 1650 super into the budget or smth

[round mason]

Np

Yea thats a good gpu

Happy hunting

[bitter jungle]

and its got good nvenc too

thanks

[eternal zealot]

what is the most inexpensive video card that i can get that can run destiny 2 well without problems

[bitter jungle]

a used GTX 660 TI or something

probably wont be the smoothest experience, but

technically it meets the minimum requirements

[vernal needle]

Oh Amazon... do you not check what your 3rd party sellers are doing? :/

[manic dew]

Oh Amazon... do you not check what your 3rd party sellers are doing? :/
@vernal needle lmao r u using microsoft edge .___.

[vernal needle]

So what?

Works fine for me.

[manic dew]

bruhhh why use google

lmao

[vernal needle]

[manic dew]

🤢 🤮

[vernal needle]

Dont have any issues with Edge. So why not?

[manic dew]

[vernal needle]

Why is it such a big deal what browser I use?

[lone pond]

Speed? Stability?

[rapid olive]

^

Edge is fine

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[lean flicker]

Do the cords come with the 3080

Im getting aftermarket one

[ancient crystal]

i like firefox, but i also used to use the chromium-based edge

what brought me back to firefox was a trivial feature

scrolling tab bar

instead of many tiny tabs

it lets me see what tabs are at a glance and close superfluous ones

which is helpful in many ways

[flat hull]

@lean flicker i dont think any 3rd party cards do. the only one(s) from my knowledge that comes with a cord is the FE but that's just an adapter from 12-pin to 2x8-pin, so you would still need the 8-pin cords to connect to it

[lean flicker]

But the cords come with the psu then right?

@flat hull

[spice prawn]

its only the FE that uses the 12pin

so its a moot point

[flat hull]

yus

[lean flicker]

so the gpu cords come with psu

Right

[spice prawn]

correct

[lean flicker]

ok bet

[spice prawn]

its just normal 6+2 PCI-e power cables. They are standard on psu's

[flat hull]

yeah and generally youre supposed to use the original psu and not like mix or match

idk if that applies to you but yuhhh

sorry i cant english. use psu cords that came with your psu, not like third party

[sacred crow]

Not all PSU cables are the same, stick to the ones designed for your PSU manufacturer.

[lone pond]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GTxpg58gmtY

ngl after watching this vid I'm convinced I made the best choice for my rig

(rx 580)

got a phantom gaming D which I'm soon getting all the parts and building my rig

[lone pond]

https://www.kotaku.com.au/2020/09/rtx-3090-benchmarks-leaked-nvidia/

I'm assuming someone already saw this as well lol idk what it means just saw the article

[granite juniper]

lol the got the price way wrong

[royal copper]

Err who said it was 2500

[faint kindle]

Oh thank god I can finally get the TUF 3080 by 2100

[lone pond]

Bruh lmao

Your lucky grandkids will be getting 60fps at 4K

[dull anvil]

When 3090 avalible for order? Exactlly on 24th? or day before?

[round mason]

same time as

3080

9am est

24th

gl

i dont expect the demand to be massive for 3090 but you never know

[grave vapor]

Hey

I heard gigabyte leaked a 3080 20gb and a 3070 16gb

[lone pond]

[sacred radish]

Is the 1650 ti better than the 1660 super

[spice prawn]

no

[sacred radish]

Really okay

[rich oasis]

Ahat is a 1650ti?

[sacred radish]

A gpu

[rich oasis]

No its not

[spice prawn]

its a mobile GPU @rich oasis

[rich oasis]

Wait

Wat

[sacred radish]

For a laptop

[rich oasis]

Wtf

Never knew

Even when I was looking for a laptop

I didnt see it

[spice prawn]

you didnt miss anything

[sacred radish]

It’s in the new razor stealth

[spice prawn]

i know of 2 laptops that use it

razer has one and there is a x1 thinkpad iirc

[rich oasis]

Wow good to know

[sacred radish]

So couldn’t you make a pc that runs better than a razor laptop for like a lot cheaper

[spice prawn]

ofc you can

but you would NOT have a machine in that particular format

with the positives and negatives that come with that

[sacred radish]

Wdym

[spice prawn]

"can you make a pc that runs better than a razor laptop for less?" yes. easily

it would NOT be a laptop anymore

because YOU are not making a laptop

[sacred radish]

Yeah that makes sense

Okay

[spare relic]

Just put pc in hydraulic press and presto, laptop :)

[spice prawn]

you go first with your own machine @spare relic

do remember to record it thou

[spare relic]

It works trust me 🙃

[spice prawn]

video proof or its bs

[spare relic]

Lol

https://youtu.be/iGtwk1HydU0 oh hey, people actually do that

[dusty pollen]

Hello , everyone

😀

[native tulip]

Wish me luck boys lol sitting outside of a micro center with 5 other people

[lone pond]

Good luckerino

[native tulip]

Tyty

[limpid latch]

@native tulip what u trying for 3080?

[upper mural]

Toy trains man

[limpid latch]

suuuuree

[restive grove]

hiddy ho

Ooh another RTX 3080 congo line

I did that with ten guys and two babes at Best Buy

Only to be told after 10 hours waiting there wont be a shipment until this Tuesday, and now the BB website sells them as online orders only

[limpid latch]

really online only??

[restive grove]

https://www.bestbuy.com/site/searchpage.jsp?_dyncharset=UTF-8&browsedCategory=abcat0507002&id=pcat17071&iht=n&ks=960&list=y&qp=brand_facet%3DBrand~EVGA^brand_facet%3DBrand~NVIDIA^gpusv_facet%3DGraphics Processing Unit (GPU)~NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3080&sc=Global&st=categoryid%24abcat0507002&type=page&usc=All Categories

[limpid latch]

prob online pickup or something, or drop ship

dont lose hope one day youll get one

i want a 3090 but waiting on hydrocopper version at some point.. although founders w/ a waterblock would be so tiny

rather not tear apart a card though makes sending in for warranty easier

[restive grove]

I originally wanted the 3070 but that's not until October 25th so since I don't know how either pair with the Ryzen 5 3600XT.

[limpid minnow]

sad bc RTX 3080 sold out in 10 seconds and my parents didnt let me go to Micro Center or BestBuy

[restive grove]

Best Buy's in our state never recieved deliveries anyway

I was making jokes with the gamers about Wizard of Oz "Flying Monkey's" hijacking the RTX delivery trucks outback...

[limpid minnow]

xD

[restive grove]

Sales reps where giving us all surreal answers anyway.

its not like I'm one of the guys that sold my 2080ti to get this card.

I'm stuck on my 1060 6gb from my old AMD FX/970 build I upgraded from to X570.

My room looks like this x7 now.

[languid knot]

So I guess it’s just refreshing sites all week for restocks?

[restive grove]

yup, Best Buy, Newegg, Nvidia, BH Photo, and one more phone retailer

oh and Amazon

[languid knot]

I think most people who want one bad will get one this week

[grave vapor]

Yo

Should I get a 2080 super in the meantime?

[terse bloom]

Wish me luck boys lol sitting outside of a micro center with 5 other people
@native tulip

Is that why Micro Center updated their website?
Though, it still says "Out of Stock" for my store, but I noticed they changed their EVGA 3080 to the MSI Gaming X Trios 3080.

[restive grove]

@grave vapor I was thinking of rocking a RX 5700 XT myself but I can't bring myself to do it...

its like wasting money on a throw away

[quasi flicker]

You could also wait for a 6700 XT, unless AMD pulls out a crap card

[restive grove]

And I'd rather have an Asus TUF or EVGA Black 3080 over the Founders edition, maybe I am too hung up on cooling solutions.

AMD's crap was always their poor driver support, although that may have improved lately.

[languid knot]

AMD's crap was always their poor driver support, although that may have improved lately.
@restive grove yes and no. Seems like it takes a while for the drivers to stabilize

Like the 5700 XT could’ve been much better but had bad drivers until a few months ago

[quasi flicker]

Driver issues for a few months*

I wouldn't think they would have the same problem with the new cards

[languid knot]

We will see

I don’t know if they can beat the 3080 performance for the price but they could compete with the 3090 and 3070

[quasi flicker]

Maybe they'll have good ray-tracing

Wait, the 6900XT will probably have 16GB VRAM?

And the 6600XT will have 12GB?

If they make that as cheap as normal and they have good performance, Nvidia should be scared

[grave vapor]

I’m thinking of getting a 3070super for the meantime

2070****

[quasi flicker]

Get a 5700XT

[grave vapor]

If I could haggle the price of a FTW3 for 375

[quasi flicker]

It's actually better than a 2070 super

[placid flume]

I’m waiting to try to get the 3080 rn, I’m working with a 1070

[grave vapor]

Well I’m going for the 3070

[quasi flicker]

6000 XTs seem like cheap power houses

[grave vapor]

And it looks like it’ll be on December till I get my hands on a 3070

[quasi flicker]

Assuming cheap

3070 just has more ray-tracing and a little more performance

[grave vapor]

I currently don’t have a gpu and my pc won’t function without one since I have a 3700x

So I can’t really wait 3 months without one maybe even longer

[placid flume]

Yeah if I were you I’d go for the 3080, it’s only 200 more and it has the same kind of graphics as the 3090

[quasi flicker]

Still better than a 2080 Ti, but still kind of disappointed

[grave vapor]

Yeah, but if I want to get an AIBs it’ll cost even more..

[quasi flicker]

AMDs?

[grave vapor]

No

AIBs

[quasi flicker]

huh

[grave vapor]

TUF series, Strix, msi trio....????

Those are AIBs cards

[quasi flicker]

oh

Never heard anyone call them that

[grave vapor]

They usually cost like 100-200+ more than FE

[quasi flicker]

I don't AMD is going to be sitting around on the release

[grave vapor]

Is there any performance difference in a 2080 and 2070Supee?

Like major?

[quasi flicker]

2080 Ti?

I don't think so

Unless you want to use RTX

[grave vapor]

Because I’m either gonna get a 2070S FTW3 For 375 USD or a 2080 FE for 400

[quasi flicker]

3080 seems to be the only one with a even more performance

[grave vapor]

Since I don’t wanna sit 3 months without a gpu

[quasi flicker]

3070 is probably about 20% faster than 2080, don't quote me on that though

[fervent obsidian]

i wonder how much the gigabyte vision oc will be

[grave vapor]

Depends

I don’t personally like the look

[quasi flicker]

3070 will be released sometime in October

[grave vapor]

Yea

Which will prolly sell out fast

[quasi flicker]

Get a bot to buy one for you lol

[grave vapor]

Since it has the most demand

[quasi flicker]

Once people saw the 3080s performance they wanted it

3070 might not be as bad

[grave vapor]

Wym

Restocks for 3080 come next week

3090 releases in 3 days

[quasi flicker]

Well... there goes B&H again

[grave vapor]

But they’re has been leaks of a 3080 with 20gb and a 3070 with 16gb

Also a 3060

[obtuse sierra]

So say I was to purchase a 3070, I’m fairly new to computer building but in terms of bottlenecking, would I be fine if I had a Ryzen 7 3700x

[languid knot]

You could even go with a 3600

I am getting the 3700x with a 3080 and won’t have issues, the 3070 will be fine

[round mason]

None of my stores ever got their supply of 3080s on release

[languid knot]

That was all stores

Sold out instantly

[clear plover]

Best Buy just some cards on stock but sold out instantly...again.

[languid knot]

Really?

[clear plover]

I am strongly considering just buying a bot myself

Yeh just a minute ago.

[languid knot]

I have a gigabyte in my cart but it’s so ugly

[round mason]

Did amazon ever update their stuff? XD

[clear plover]

I never use see through cases so as long as it fits inside I don't care about looks xD

[round mason]

Ud think that as the largest etaitler they would get their stock

[clear plover]

Jeff Bezos got his stock to himself to absorb em with his head. He needs more AI power.

[languid knot]

This gigabyte card is just sitting in my cart but I feel if I try and order it it’ll cancel 😂

[round mason]

Ye

I have a 3080 pre ordered but i have no idea when my store getting their shipment

[maiden plinth]

Given the prices, probably don’t get one you don’t like the look of. Availability is only going to get worse in the further generations until shopping bots are made illegal, if that happens. Just wait for one you like, even though that card probably won’t let you check out anyways

[languid knot]

True. I was hoping to build my comp soon but I think I’ll wait for the FE or EVGA and see what happens after the AMD news oct 8th

I just need to be patient

[zinc aspen]

When are the 3080's coming back in stock and do we have to compete and lose to bots again? Are you finally going to limit them 1 per household? (not a perfect solution to bots, but a good start)

[spice prawn]

@zinc aspen you are asking the wrong people

we dont work for newegg

and even if they could tell you

they would not be able to tell you

[hallow frigate]

Hi everyone. Looking to upgrade my GTX1060 3GB graphics card. I have a Gigabyte Z390 motherboard. I'm hoping to spend $200 or less.

Any suggestions?

[rich oasis]

cpu?

[restive grove]

Hiddy Ho

Amazon just became Ebay with scalper pricing

https://www.amazon.com/PNY-GeForce-Gaming-Epic-X-Graphics/dp/B08HBR7QBM?ref_=ast_sto_dp

https://www.amazon.com/ZOTAC-Graphics-IceStorm-Advanced-ZT-A30800D-10P/dp/B08HJNKT3P?ref_=ast_sto_dp

[zinc aspen]

Hiddy Ho
@restive grove Dude, I saw one that was $12,500 bid, $15,000 buy it now. I read, but didn't see, that one sold for, get this, $70,000. I find that very hard to believe. One of the scumbag scalpers, selling them for $1150, it said (2 days ago), 22 sold. I can't believe that people are not only THIS stupid, but REWARDING scalpers for what they do. You couldn't get a card bc of them, so you reward them for it????

The bot fiasco was written about on PCMag, Tomshardware, and many other sites. They even know the bot company the scalpers used. Unless something is done, none of us will be able to get our hands on a card. It's just gonna happen again. I'm 100% sure all those bots are still running now, waiting for more to come in stock. We can't compete with a bot.

[restive grove]

Consumers are idiots when they have money to burn

[zinc aspen]

Yeah, I guess so. I would NEVER pay 3+ times the price, nor even $50 more. I won't give those scumbag scalpers a dime.

[restive grove]

I know, and Best Buy screwed the pooch by limiting purchases to online sales

[zinc aspen]

Newegg, a customer server rep admitted to me, didn't even limit purchases per household. Bots got 20-30+ per order!

[restive grove]

the RTX 3090 is due at the end of the month and the 3070 in October.

[zinc aspen]

Yeah, we'll see. With not bot protection, I don't think many valid customers are gonna get their hands on one. I even called ebay to complain. They sounded super apologetic on the phone and thanked me for telling them, but they aren't gonna do a DAMN THING.

I can't believe ebay is OK with people selling a product that they even ADMIT in the description, they don't even have.

So sad Amazon has scalpers.

[restive grove]

That Amazon Zoltec sold btw

[zinc aspen]

OMFG.

I reported it for price scalping 😉

[restive grove]

the 5k card is still up for sale

[zinc aspen]

There's a ZOTAC GeForce Nvidia RTX 3080 Trinity Confirmed Order and no lie, it says it's at $90,000 now.

I mean, seriously? How did a person get so rich if they were THIS careless about money?

48 bids

[restive grove]

so middle eastern gamer will be happy

[zinc aspen]

I can't post the link

Think of how many top of the line pc's you could buy with that

custom water cooling, etc, etc. Fastest I9...

[restive grove]

not anymore

even the price for

[zinc aspen]

You know what's INSANE? After that gouging, he's says the shipping is $22.99

[restive grove]

1060's are over 300 bucks now

[zinc aspen]

For standard shipping.... LOL

[weary kayak]

hey peoplez quick question

oop wrong channel

[zinc aspen]

It's a scam. The same person is bidding up the price with NO competition. How does ebay not know or care?

They bid up the price 23 times, another bot (all the usernames are fake.. character number combos, surely bot generated), did the same thing, drove it up many times in a row. It went from $22k to 49k in one bid

[restive grove]

Well there could be a funnier outcome, there are people who fake the purchases just to deny payment

taking the scalper out of circulation for a time

[zinc aspen]

If I wouldn't get caught, I would do this. Run bots to destroy what they do.

Where's anonymous when you need them? 😉

[restive grove]

rofl

[zinc aspen]

It all makes me sick, and I already have no faith in humanity. I just want 1 card for my PC. Been a loyal newegg customer for longer than I remember.

[restive grove]

well this epidemic is world wide and pretty old i hear

[hallow frigate]

@rich oasis Intel i7 3.7 Ghz

[split girder]

huh

[rich oasis]

@hallow frigate which i7?

[rain sand]

Should I wait for the rtx 3070 after it restocks?

or should I get it in release?

[severe basin]

You've got that limiter set to nuke don't you

the brickest of walls

[grave vapor]

or should I get it in release?
@rain sand don’t ever buy first batch

Bad idea

[languid knot]

So in all honesty I have the money for a 3080. All I want is 1440p with over 100fps. Should I get a 3080 or save money on a 20 series?

[grave vapor]

Save money on a 20 series tbh

Or go get a 3070 for cheaper

[rain sand]

@grave vapor I was thinking the same thing since I have a 1070 ti mini that gets the job done for all the games I play.

[grave vapor]

I’d wait till next restock so you’ll see which cards will have flaws and etc.

[languid knot]

Im not interested in waiting until December or January. I was going to upgrade to the new xbox but now I am going for a pc so anything before mid november

[rain sand]

sounds good. Btw is 3060 going to be a thing?

[grave vapor]

Yeah

Not till later tho

[languid knot]

I was more interested in the 3080 for less compromises and I want to use Ray Tracing

[grave vapor]

Well it’s up to you. It depends on the games your going to play

[rain sand]

mate u should wait on restock for 3080 bc the resale for it is really high

[grave vapor]

Yep

[languid knot]

Yeah if I get a 3080 itll hold value longer

[grave vapor]

Restock is this week or next week

[rain sand]

plus 3070 is like a 2080ti

from what I've seen

[grave vapor]

Yea

I mean if u can find a 2080ti below 500 then that’s a cop in my eyes

[languid knot]

Best buy restocked shortly but I could only get the Gigabyte and I dont like that card so Im going to wait for the EVGA, ASUS, or FE

The 3080 beats the 2080ti

by quite a bit

[grave vapor]

Since a 3070 is basically 20-30% faster than the 2080ti

[quasi cobalt]

There is 2080tis below 500?

[grave vapor]

Yeah

[languid knot]

no, 3070 will be between the 2080 and 2080ti

[grave vapor]

Well once the restock comes prices would probably plummet

[languid knot]

plus it has less ram

[grave vapor]

no, 3070 will be between the 2080 and 2080ti
@languid knot no...?

Have less vram doesn’t actually effect the performance

[rain sand]

mate u should research on that better @languid knot

[languid knot]

GN, Jayztwocents, and Bitwit has all said it probably wont beat the 2080ti

[grave vapor]

If nvidia was right, the chart showed that the 3070 is 20-30% faster

[languid knot]

for ray tracing yes tho

[quasi cobalt]

I cant even afford any of this stuff anyway😭

[rain sand]

@quasi cobalt lmao

[languid knot]

I havent ever had a pc and Ive been saving for 4 years 🙂

[grave vapor]

So your saying that the 3070 = 2080 super rtx off?

Uhh

I don’t think that’s right

[quasi cobalt]

@languid knot how much have you saved

[languid knot]

no, 3070 better than 2080 super, not quite to the 2080ti

$1500-1600 USD

[grave vapor]

Well approximately the same perf

[rain sand]

not really is literally the same if not slightly better than 2080ti

[grave vapor]

Exactly

[rain sand]

but thats on paper

[grave vapor]

Well nvidia wasn’t wrong about 3080 performance

[languid knot]

Maybe the same. That's just what Ive heard so Im not 100% but I think itll be close

[rain sand]

true

[grave vapor]

Ima just stick to whatever they say

Since they’re primary sources

[rain sand]

3080 is for people who have that kind of money

[grave vapor]

Not really

[rain sand]

and play 4k

[grave vapor]

More like a 3090

[languid knot]

Thats why I am fitting the 3080 into my budget, it's overkill but I will be super happy with it

[rain sand]

3070 is more than enough tho @grave vapor

[grave vapor]

Yea

Ima pair it with my 3700x 👍

[quasi cobalt]

So 3070 is 500 and 3080 is 800?

[grave vapor]

Yeah

FE cost

But if u want AIBs then it’s like 100-200 more

[rain sand]

so if u play 1080p 3070 is the best way tbh

[grave vapor]

Wym

3070 is sufficient for 4K aswell

1440p

[languid knot]

Im getting a 3700x and 3080. I have a dell 32" 1440p 165hz

[quasi cobalt]

I'm getting Ryzen 5 2600, 1650 super

[rain sand]

ik, but i am saying that 3070 is enough for 1080p players

[grave vapor]

I sold my 7700k and mobo combo for like 400 bucks

[quasi cobalt]

Io its hella cheap

[rain sand]

bc y would u get a 1080p monitor with 3080?😂 😂

[quasi cobalt]

Exactly, get a 4890p

[languid knot]

yeah thats too much for the monitor

50000 fps

[vernal needle]

I plan to sell my 9700K+Motherboard for about 600 dollars when I go AMD :p

[languid knot]

1080p is more CPU tho so youll be bottlenecking the 3080 at that res

[quasi cobalt]

Can i buy it for 2$

Nah jk lmao

[rain sand]

@languid knot maybe

but then again 1080p is the standard bc monitors that are 4k144hz aint cheap

[languid knot]

I mean itll run well but youll miss out on a lot of performance

[quasi cobalt]

Yea they go for 450 or more

[rain sand]

@languid knot facts

[languid knot]

1440p isnt too much more than 1080 now

[quasi cobalt]

Fax

[rain sand]

my monitor is 1080p240hz for $400

[quasi cobalt]

That's why I run 5023p

Ok lemme stop now😭

[languid knot]

I run nothing rn soooo

[quasi cobalt]

Same

I run ps4 1080p

Lmao

[rain sand]

i will be honest new console look good and all but a $500 pc is better

bc ik not everyone has a 4k tv that can support 120hz

[languid knot]

maybeeeee

consoles get beat for $800 tho

[quasi cobalt]

Yea My PC Budget is a little over 650

[rain sand]

so u will be paying for 1080p, might as well get a pc bc in the long run is better

with the new prices of the gpu it wouldn't surprise me that other new parts will be cheap in time

[quasi cobalt]

Yea

[rain sand]

$500 pc u get more fps better performance, yea u are missing ray-tracing and 4k but we know damn well u dont have a 4k120hz tv/ monitor

and u need hdmi 2.1 for them to run at 120fps

[languid knot]

my one x claims to run at 120fps 1440p. It does not.

when I asked they said it should but it wont.

[rain sand]

bruh that is cap at 60fps

[languid knot]

I know

they lie ab it

[rain sand]

ps4/ xb1 are cap at 60fps

who ever told u that lied big time

[languid knot]

No tthe one X at 1080

[rain sand]

all xb1 are cap at 60fps

same for ps4

[quasi cobalt]

They said with tweak settings next gen can run up to 120fps

[languid knot]

thats wack

Im tired of xbox

[quasi cobalt]

So I'm guessing you have to lower some settings to get 120 fps

[rain sand]

I dont think it will let u lower it

but they are for sure optimize

[quasi cobalt]

But j think when you get it, its on 60fps

[rain sand]

so they might be low- medium+low settings

[quasi cobalt]

Yes

[rain sand]

for 120fps

i go on twitter and people get on my ass for spending 1k in my pc, saying new consoles this and that

[languid knot]

It wont be that incredible. Just good and better

[quasi cobalt]

New consoles not even all that tbh

But they are good for rhe price, I would sag that

[rain sand]

they are but on paper

then again they dont tell u everything

they havent say that 4k120fps is going to be at max settings same can be said for 4k60fps

they just saying the overall of them. thats y 3070 for the WIN

[languid knot]

no itll be 1080 and 1440 120fps if anything

[quasi cobalt]

I dont think its gonna run 4k on 120fps

[rain sand]

yea but they said the gpu in it can do 4k120fps later on

even activition made that claim for the new cod

[languid knot]

They said that about the One X....

[rain sand]

lol

is all marketing strategies

[languid knot]

thats what im saying

[quasi cobalt]

Lmao

[rain sand]

at least nvidia was honest with the 3000 series

[quasi cobalt]

Yea true, even tho I can't afford it

[rain sand]

If the 3060 is true then I bet u can get that

[languid knot]

They slightly exaggerated if anything but not even that much so

[quasi cobalt]

How mich will it be

[rain sand]

4k120fps is a bold claim tho

[spice prawn]

"at least nvidia was honest with the 3000 series" <- you serious about that?

[quasi cobalt]

Its definitely not running 4k 120fps

[rain sand]

I think around 400 at max idk is just rumors

[quasi cobalt]

Its hard to believe

[languid knot]

4k120fps for a console is more over-exaggerated than any of Nvidias claims

[rain sand]

"at least nvidia was honest with the 3000 series" <- you serious about that?
@spice prawn wym

[quasi cobalt]

It might be at 4k its 60fps

And 1080p is 120

[spice prawn]

@rain sand about 80% of the claims nvidia did in their reveal/marketing was bs.

[rain sand]

thats what i think but activision is saying otherwie😂 😂

[quasi cobalt]

Thats the whole plan

[rain sand]

benchmark prove to be like they said @spice prawn

[quasi cobalt]

To trick people

[spice prawn]

@rain sand not remotely.

[rain sand]

unless u have a 3080 rn and can say different @spice prawn

or any of the 3000 series

[spice prawn]

i do not, i can however read reviews.

[rain sand]

I didn't take NVidia's word, I just took what the people who tested it said

[spice prawn]

then i suggest you take some more info from more people that have tested it

[rain sand]

Well i did Nexus, Jtwo, and I forgot who else was the other

then again first bash are always trash for anything in this world

[spice prawn]

how did you get "nvidia was honest" from the GN vids?

[rain sand]

nope

[spice prawn]

i am both impressed and horrified

[rain sand]

I watch more than one video

I dont just see one, but if u can link me a video then go ahead

[spice prawn]

https://www.computerbase.de/2020-09/geforce-rtx-3080-test/ <- not video, because written media is still superior to video for actual reviews

and yes, that is german, and no, i am not german

and yes, google translate works just fine

[rain sand]

ughhh reading

im over reading thx to college lmao

[spice prawn]

that explains a lot then

[rain sand]

are they user reviews?

[spice prawn]

users generally cannot figure out the difference between a GPU and a Donkey... so ... No.

[rain sand]

bc if they are then thats a nooo for me bc thats first drop, which again it always sucks for everything

[spice prawn]

its an actual review

[rain sand]

im reading it

[languid knot]

3080 is worth the $700 msrp, not worth the hype

[spice prawn]

@languid knot i personally dont agree with it being worth the 700

[rain sand]

3080 aint my thing I play 1080p

3070 is more than enough for me

[quasi cobalt]

GT 720 is my budget

[pliant bobcat]

Best for the buck GPU?

[rain sand]

3090 @pliant bobcat 😂

[pliant bobcat]

Somebody suggest a 3080, but Its not available

@rain sand Im not spending $1500 in one card on a $2000 budget build

[rain sand]

dont buy it, resale is way to high

@rain sand Im not spending $1500 in one card on a $2000 budget build
@pliant bobcat I was being sarcastic lmao

[pliant bobcat]

I know

[quasi cobalt]

Do 3070 or 3080 then

[rain sand]

do u have a 4k monitor?

[pliant bobcat]

No at this moment

[rain sand]

bc 3070(on paper looks beautiful) is only 500

if u like fps games then i think 3070 is will be good, since u will need fps

[quasi cobalt]

And then you can pair that with a 1600F

[spice prawn]

@quasi cobalt no.

[quasi cobalt]

I'm jk

Lmao

[pliant bobcat]

It looks really good on paper

[spice prawn]

@quasi cobalt "jokes" like that belong in #general-chat

[quasi cobalt]

Yea its your best bet

[rain sand]

we still have to wait on "hands on" to actually say if is worth it @pliant bobcat

I hope they are bc that is to what i want to upgrade

[pliant bobcat]

What about something that is out

[hallow frigate]

@rich oasis did you get my message? It is 8700K.

[quasi cobalt]

2080 Super

[rain sand]

@pliant bobcat well it all depends

[rich oasis]

And you want a new gpu?

[rain sand]

u can ask @spice prawn, ik he knows way more than I do

@pliant bobcat i have a 1070 ti which gets the job done but thats like $700

[rich oasis]

a 1070ti is not 700 lmao

its more like 180 used

[rain sand]

@rich oasis yea but new it isn't

[rich oasis]

Or like 200 ish

They don't sell it new lmao

its a 2 gen old card

Even at launch it wasn't near 700

[rain sand]

https://www.newegg.com/zotac-geforce-gtx-1070-ti-zt-p10710g-10p/p/N82E16814500431?Description=1070 ti mini&cm_re=1070_ti mini-_-14-500-431-_-Product&quicklink=true

[rich oasis]

Third party sellers

[rain sand]

@rich oasis is not being manufacture that is y

[rich oasis]

Exacty because a card that is 200 dollars now beats it

for 700 you could get a 3080 lmao

[rain sand]

Ik that at release it wasn't $700

[rich oasis]

at realease it was 450

[rain sand]

Ik, but I am saying rn and my experience with it

[rich oasis]

@hallow frigate either way you can pair that cpu with about any gpu

[rain sand]

Is really a great card for it to be 2 gen old

[rich oasis]

if you only have 200 dollars

then save

[rain sand]

I didnt pay $700

[rich oasis]

I wouldn't buy now I would save till you have about 500 at least

@pliant bobcat i have a 1070 ti which gets the job done but thats like $700
@rain sand really?

you did say the card its self was 700

[high nimbus]

no restocks today on the 3080 for any retailer? Very suprirsed.

[rich oasis]

No unfortunatly not

[fervent obsidian]

i expect within the week

[rain sand]

bc thats the price on new egg

[high nimbus]

I bet tuesday

[fervent obsidian]

just hang out and wait my friend

[rich oasis]

The seller is not newegg

[rain sand]

Ik but that is what it says

[high nimbus]

I don't need to wait, but hoping y'all get some stock soon!

[rich oasis]

Do you realize what you are saying lol?

what ever this isn't worth my time lol

[rain sand]

If I was going to pay $700 for gpu might as well get a 2070s and save money while at it @rich oasis

@rich oasis y are u so salty?

[rich oasis]

I'm not ?

I said you said the wrong thing

I corrected you

and I kept correcting you

And now I realize its not worth my time

[rain sand]

again I am saying the price that is being sold rn

Im not saying go buy it

[rich oasis]

What ever have fun

[rain sand]

ig lmao so salty

[rich oasis]

ok tell me how I'm salty?

[dreamy dragon]

Xavix#4473 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

[fervent obsidian]

y'all gotta chill lol

[high nimbus]

https://tenor.com/view/so-salty-salt-bae-bitter-jealous-angry-gif-17584364

[rich oasis]

I haven't said anything lol

[fervent obsidian]

just talk computers and be friends

[rich oasis]

I just corrected him and now he got mad

[rain sand]

Im over here trying to explain my self and u are just saying other stuff @rich oasis

[spice prawn]

@high nimbus keep the jokes to #general-chat

[high nimbus]

damnit I keep thinking I'm in general chat lmao

[rain sand]

like let me finish so u can understand what I am trying to say

@rich oasis im just saying I have this gpu and it works just fine but down part is that rn is being sold for $700 brand new. I never said go buy lmao

[rich oasis]

Cool have fun

[rain sand]

lmao this is what I mean😂 thx for the lecture

[languid knot]

Dont be upsetti, have some spaghetti

[rain sand]

@languid knot the name 😂 😂 u will get it

[languid knot]

If I ask nicely it will happen sooner, thats the hope

[rain sand]

ayy man I hope u do

[languid knot]

Im not too worried, I just hope Nvidia truly is messing this launch up pretty bad and they can get it sorted somewhat. I am a marketing major in school and its sad to see how they had a good base, but the execution has been so poor

Im not losing sleep over it, but it's not been a good business move so far for them

[rain sand]

yea

on twitter I have seen a lot of talk about it but haven't really read it since is not for me

[spice prawn]

@languid knot i think you might be missing the point of what they did

look at the tech news

do you see amd there at all?

[languid knot]

No I understand the building hype and creating demand for the product. I am talking about how they didnt limit the amount purchased or put any antibot procedures in place

[rich oasis]

good press and bad press are still press

[restive grove]

yawn... I been refreshing pages for days

[languid knot]

They tried to undercut AMD's releases before the cards were really ready I know

[spice prawn]

@languid knot not really talking about the card or the launch. I am more talking about their "storytelling"

they are the ones writing the narrative at the moment

[rain sand]

oof this is getting interesting

[languid knot]

Wym?

Maybe I missed something

[terse bloom]

So I have a i9-10850k with a 1080, but I'm thinking that maybe I should just pick up a 2080Super instead of waiting for the 3080.
That way, I can put my 1080 back in my old i7-6700k pc for my girlfriend to use.

Good idea or no? Should I just keep waiting and be patient?

[languid knot]

Im not sure

What res are you wanting?

[terse bloom]

Right now I have asus pg279(q?) Its 2k res with 165 refresh rate

[languid knot]

so 1440p? sry I dont know 2k

[rich oasis]

@terse bloom just wait don't be impatient

a 3080 is about 35% better than a 2080ti in some cases

and not waiting is just a mistake since you are paying the same price for cards with pretty drastic performance differences

[round mason]

@terse bloom 2070S - 2080S will perform pretty good for 1440p 100+ fps on most games

3080 will definitely cover the hard hitting games tho

3080 is the better value if you get it at msrp or near it

but if u want a 2080S just get a second hand

[half dock]

Is there any word on when a restock of 3080s will happen "this week" ?

[spice prawn]

its not info that is available to the public @half dock

[half dock]

Thanks

[spice prawn]

you are very welcome, and good luck :)

[high nimbus]

@half dock Total guess so do not take anything I say as fact. If I was going to try for a 3080 restock this week I would be very focused on Tuesday/Wednesday, especially early morning.

[half dock]

Yeah, I'm guessing probably around the same time as they went on Thursday

so 6am pacific

[high nimbus]

That would be my thought, and there's plenty of reasons why that will not be reality.

[half dock]

though unless they add captcha i doubt i'll have a chance

[high nimbus]

as far as I know bots solve captcha faster than humans

so like it's an even greater disadvantage.

[half dock]

yeah but hopefully that one API every scalper used doesn't

[high nimbus]

How tf does that work

does anyone have access to the API here? I've seen some comments about it in either this discord or another.

[half dock]

there have been some in-depth articles about it

[high nimbus]

Everyone should be checking EVGA.com right now by the way

[half dock]

they tweeted they're sold out

[high nimbus]

ah damn

[half dock]

time to set my alarm for 5:45am

[frigid anvil]

[high nimbus]

where?

you bought both lol?

[spice prawn]

that looks like OCuk

[high nimbus]

oh those are pre-orders

[languid knot]

How do you preorder

[faint steeple]

@spice prawn shhh

lol

[spice prawn]

@faint steeple i have no interest in getting one :)

[quasi cobalt]

Anyone need a 2080 Super

[celest wave]

?

[quasi cobalt]

Selling for 120$

[celest wave]

Dude I'll buy

But this isn't the place to talk

[quasi cobalt]

OK actually

I was joking

[celest wave]

Ok I was like wtf

[quasi cobalt]

Yea i can't afford that wth

[celest wave]

But I'm not gonna not jump at the offer

[quasi cobalt]

Who wouldnt

[celest wave]

I mean yeah

As much as a I want a 3070

120 for a 2080 super is too good to pass up

[quasi cobalt]

Yea true

But I'm stuck with a GT 720

[celest wave]

My younger brother has a RX 570 but he isn't gaming super hard rn

So he said he'd lend it to me and he'd Rock the 750 ti

And that's what I'll be one til I can get a 3070

[restive grove]

the 3070 is a october release

[celest wave]

Yeah it is

I'm fine with waiting for it

Plus a 570 is pretty neck and neck with the 1060 which I'm on rn but it's a laptop

[mystic thunder]

Hi folks! NVIDIA is gifting me a Quadro RTX 6000 graphics card for speaking at their upcoming GPU Tech Conference. I'm hoping to buy a desktop workstation well-suited to this powerful card and to drive my Oculus Quest 2 through the Oculus Link cable. I'm trying to figure out how to get this built and what I should budget for it. Is this something NewEgg can build for me (I don't want to do it myself): a PC workstation without a graphics card that could work well for my intended use? Here are some specs I'm looking for: at least 64 GB System RAM, Microsoft Windows 10, Intel CPU (pls recommend which one). Thoughts? Recommendations?

[quasi cobalt]

For an Intel CPU you can get a i9-9700k or higher

[frigid anvil]

Yeah those are pre-order but at least I was able to buy them.

Most people can't even do that.

😩

[celest wave]

10700k has a combo right now

for 490 it comes with a damn nice z490 mobo

dunno if it'll work with a quadro, because i have no idea what non gaming cards draw or need

[sour rover]

hey can anyone help me find a way to get better frames on my laptop. It has a 1060 with an 15 and still runs 30 frames

[celest wave]

what games

[dusk nexus]

If the 3070 is supposed to be as good as the 2080ti at 4k will that give me 60hz?

Trying to decide if I want to go all out this generation or wait till 4k high refresh rate monitor prices come down

[celest wave]

maybe maybe not we havent got reviews

a 2080 ti is alright with 4k

but we just don;t know yet

[dusk nexus]

Hmm ok thats fair enough. I was hoping it might be able to hold 60 fps around like medium and then RDNA3 or hopper i would go for the upgrade to GPU and monitor

[celest wave]

we'll find out soon enough

unlike the up to 2x performance the 3080 boasted

the 3070 was more of a concrete statment

we'll see if it holds true

[dusk nexus]

Yea i hope it does itll be a nice upgrade from my 1060

[restive grove]

lol i'm stuck on my 1060 as well

[terse bloom]

I've got a single 1080 between 2 pcs.. Too bad I can't split it for a pair of 540s

[restive grove]

i actually three 550's without sli naturally

[grave vapor]

I’m using a temp gpu rn

[frigid anvil]

Hello

And same

I am too

[rapid herald]

can anyone suggest the best way to get a 3080 right now?

[high nimbus]

Where do you live

[rapid herald]

Chicago

[high nimbus]

EVGA seems like one of the best bets right now

[rapid herald]

yeah i saw that there gonna be having stock of thousands this week

and nvidia

[high nimbus]

Jacob Freeman on twitter tweeted before items went on stock today. Unclear if he'll do that tomorrow, they make it sounds like they'll roll more out every day this week.

[covert jetty]

Or micro center since you actually have one in Chicago

[rapid herald]

ok. Yeah i saw that but i was working. I was so mad

[high nimbus]

They are the only website to even do a restock this week.

[rapid herald]

well theres two micro centers near me

how often do they more cards in stock

[high nimbus]

yeah you could try that. I'd be surprised if this card is in any brick and mortar stores right now.

[rapid herald]

dang

[high nimbus]

Don't take my word for it

[rapid herald]

so there rolling out cards every day?

[high nimbus]

that's what they made it sound like. It's not confirmed

They could have sold their "thousands" of supply today

[rapid herald]

ok. i wonder what they mean by"thoussands" like 1000 cards, 5000, or 15,000....ya know?

[high nimbus]

but they are also reviewing orders for bots. So if there is any, I'd expect that to be rolled out in the next restock.

No one knows man

[rapid herald]

yeah. I got my whole build sitting next to me in boxes and i was assuming id get a 3080 to put in it

[high nimbus]

I saw some rumors about some retailers getting stock on Tuesday. No concrete proof of that either, but if that's true then you're probably looking at restock tuesday or wednesday.

yeah a lot of people in that position unfortunately.

[rapid herald]

tuesday as in tomorrow or next tuesday?

[high nimbus]

this tuesday

that being said we could totally have 0 restocks tomorrow. That's what seemed like was going to happen today, until EVGA came out of no where.

[languid knot]

Okay so there will be constant 3080 restocks for 3 weeks, or every now and then for 2 months. No one knows. But it’s likely there will be enough so Nvidia gets the salsa they want

So I would guess there will be quite a bit

[rapid herald]

btw, just saw that nvidia took the 3080 off their website

https://www.nvidia.com/en-us/shop/geforce/?page=1&limit=9&locale=en-us

[high nimbus]

wym get the sales they want? I'd assume they'd want to sell as many 3080s as possible.

[languid knot]

Exactly

Which is why I think they will restock a lot

[rapid herald]

@languid knot is that concrete facts?

[languid knot]

No

[high nimbus]

they took it off the store, but there is still a landing page.

https://www.nvidia.com/en-us/geforce/graphics-cards/30-series/rtx-3080/

[rapid herald]

about the restock?

[high nimbus]

apparently during the launch only the landing page showed stock. Store page never did.

[rapid herald]

oh...huh

weird

so we will be able to buy everything through their website?

[languid knot]

I’m just saying if Nvidia is smart, which they are, there will be plenty of restocks.

[rapid herald]

interseting

[high nimbus]

what do you mean everything?

[languid knot]

You can only buy the FE on Nvidias sight but see other partners

[rapid herald]

oooooooh

makes sense

theyll just redirect you

[high nimbus]

You can buy FE from best buy as well.

[languid knot]

You have to go to another site to buy the partner boards

Yes

Which is why I’m looking at Best Buy more

[rapid herald]

when do you think acutal Nvidia will restock? cuz I know they said this week

[languid knot]

Mon-fri

[rapid herald]

just like random times?

[languid knot]

Jk I have no clue

[rapid herald]

oh lol

This is crap that we have to have a discussion on this about GPUs

[languid knot]

Yep. I’m building my pc around it so I will be looking a lot for the next few weeks until I get one

[high nimbus]

Nvidia had no restock today

[rapid herald]

we should all have one rn

@high nimbus they said later this week i think

dont quiote me though

[languid knot]

If you want one badly you will need to check a lot, if not I’m sure they will be more available by November

[rapid herald]

bruh

[languid knot]

By then the 3090 and 3070 will be out as well as the AMD cards

[high nimbus]

I would take that with a grain of salt

[rapid herald]

yeah but cmon. I dont wanna wait that freaking long

[languid knot]

The 3080 has great performance for the price, but it also undercut the competition by a lot which is why this is happening

[high nimbus]

and coronavirus

[rapid herald]

well Nvidia wasnt prepared is what this ius

is

[high nimbus]

I think they were prepared as they could have been

[languid knot]

If the AMD and Nvidia cards were announced and released within 1-4 days of each other it would not be nearly this bad

[rapid herald]

true

[languid knot]

The production would be the only thing highly effected by corona

[high nimbus]

no one was more motivated than Nvidia to make those cards. I don't think they underestimated how many to make, they just couldn't make enough.

[languid knot]

Shipping and transportation of the cards aren’t nearly as affected

[high nimbus]

sure they could have been more upfront about supply other than saying supply was historically low, but whatever.

[rapid herald]

idk. They new how much they hyped this card up...and with the performance....did they not thing people would want them?

[high nimbus]

production is a key part to delivering finished cards.

[languid knot]

Well let’s be honest. It’s a $700 pc part

No matter how good it is no one expected THIS many people wanting it

[high nimbus]

I disagree

These cards sell out every year. It's no surprise to them that demand would be very high.

[languid knot]

Look at how many people want the 3070 instead. It’s a massive difference

[high nimbus]

I would have bought a 3070 if they released at the same time. They intentionally timed this to sell more 3080s.

[languid knot]

I’m not saying the demand wasn’t high, just much higher than it should have been because of a lack of competition

[vale forge]

There’s allot of rumors saying they’re holding back the shipping so that they can jack up the msrp. I mean they could easily sell this card for $1,200+

[languid knot]

Nvidia doesn’t make any money off of that.....

It’s the resellers that do...

[high nimbus]

idk man that sounds like a PR nightmare

hey you know that card you've been trying to buy for the last month? We've just raised the price significantly.

[languid knot]

If that was true the partner manufacturers would not sell the card for as close to msrp as they do.

[high nimbus]

Part of the rumor @vale forge mentioned is AIB are getting a rebate that will end in October.

[vale forge]

It’s only a nightmare if they get caught. But yea. I’ve read and watched reviews and what not saying that they may stop making the FE allowing the AIB’s to jack the pricing up. They take a cut and none of the blame. But then again. It’s 2020. Maybe they’ll keep it at 7-850

[high nimbus]

thus if it's true the AIB's will go up.

[languid knot]

Yeah so then AMD undercuts the price and sells more as soon as the prices rise after the amd cards are announced.... that would be the dumbest business decision they could possibly make.

[vale forge]

If I can snag one before November I’ll be happy. Until then I’ll probably return the one I have now to BB and snag a faster one. Just to get a feel for “excellence”

[high nimbus]

which one do you have now?

[languid knot]

I don’t mean any disrespect, I’m just saying that would seriously kill the company. The AIB cards are already selling for that price. That would be a terrible business idea that would drop nvidias stock by a lot.

[vale forge]

A crappy Radeon Thicc ll, I average about 120-160fps on Warzone, but it tends to black screen from time to time. I either have to unplug the HDMI and reseat it or alt+tab lol

[proper jungle]

Would a i5 9600k bottleneck a 3070

[high nimbus]

no idea without benchmarks

I disagree @languid knot

[proper jungle]

It was more of a what do you think question than anything

[vale forge]

No disrespect taken @languid knot Depends on what AMD is able to compete with. But I mean didn’t the 2080ti come out for like $1,200 and then jump to as much as $2,000?

[high nimbus]

I have no idea, but the 3080 at higher resolutions was less cpu dependent than people expected

[languid knot]

Depending on the AIB. Some of more cooling or features added, but the base cost of the card didn’t change much at all

[vale forge]

@proper jungle I believe they’ve done some benchmarks with that cpu for the 3080 a suspect a bottleneck on the processor end. But yea. Not tech savvy enough to give you a certain answer

[languid knot]

Also keep in mind the 2080ti is like a hyper car

There are much less produced so they will hold/gain in value

The 3090 would be the one rising in price if anything

[vale forge]

True. That makes sense

[high nimbus]

Once 3080s and 3070 hit mass market I would expect 2080ti prices to adjust accordingly

[vale forge]

Yea. I wouldn’t necessarily buy a used 2080ti though. Especially with how heavily the crypto market has been for the past few years

[languid knot]

Also the 3080 boards are supplied at a certain cost. So if the FE cards aren’t raising in price, even if the AIB cards to that doesn’t make Nvidia more money cause they still supply the board at cost to the board partner

[vale forge]

The micro center near me has a out of the box 2080ti for like 950

[languid knot]

That’s not bad

I think the 2080ti will still be better than the 3070 for some things

[lone pond]

more future proof for future games that might want allot of vram

also still a better choice for 1440p

i expect 10gb to be phased out for triple a titles on ultra settings... some games allready want more anyway.

[languid knot]

It’ll be 2-3 years but I agree

[vale forge]

Well they’ve already found a 16gb and 20gb variant. But they can’t officially announce them until AMD

[proper jungle]

What exactly is an AIB card

[lone pond]

non reference

partner board

[high nimbus]

3rd party like EVGA

Nvidia makes the FE. All other cards are AIB.

[lone pond]

technically the 3000 series founders cards are nvidia AIB

because they are not reference

[proper jungle]

So like asus and gigabyte and stuff

[vale forge]

Basically partner cards EVGA, zotac, msi, etc.

[terse bloom]

They're also known as Aftermarket cards

[proper jungle]

Oh ok

That’s what I thought but I was just clarifying

[languid knot]

Will the 3080 need a support bracket btw?

[lone pond]

gamers nexus leaked out that cooler master makes the fe and quadros btw lul 🙂

[terse bloom]

I know the MSI Gaming X Trios already comes with an extra support bracket

[vale forge]

I really like the Vision variant that Gigabyte posted on their Twitter. Would love an eta for it sigh

[languid knot]

I’m looking for the EVGA or FE

[proper jungle]

Probably be a good idea to have some support

[lone pond]

im waiting for 3080ti or big navi... what ever i can actually order and get a delivery date first

not downgrading my 1080ti vram >_<

[languid knot]

3080ti would just be the 3090 no?

[lone pond]

nah, just more vram

[vale forge]

It appears that most of the cards come with like a metal backplate. Some don’t though. Which I find it idiotic

[lone pond]

maybe a few more cores.. like a hundred

[languid knot]

Seems odd. Cause the 2080 went from 800-900 or so to the 2080ti which was 12-1400

[fervent obsidian]

the version with 10gb vram is enough for me

[languid knot]

Same

[terse bloom]

It's iffy if the 3080ti is just the 3090. There's already "confirmed rumors" of the 3080 20GB model, which could just be the 3080Super or Ti model, but it's unknown.

[languid knot]

The 3080 is already somewhat overkill for me

[fervent obsidian]

same

[vale forge]

Ditto. I’ll upgrade it in 5years when I want a new mobo/cpu

[high nimbus]

3080 is overkill for most applications

[fervent obsidian]

i just want to be good for a few years on gpu

and actually enjoy some 1440p

[languid knot]

I am going from an Xbox one x but I want 1440p max settings at 100+ FPS

[lone pond]

super is binned / higher clocks, ti is more vram and maybe a few extra cores, usally around a hundred.. given nvidias track redord so far with there naming scheme

well there are a few extra cores in super also

but not as much as a ti

but the super still has had higher % in clock speed

[proper jungle]

@languid knot I can get on board with that

[languid knot]

The supers were more to make up for the lack of performance from the original RTX launch I feel

[terse bloom]

Yeah, but we don't have any specs on the 3080 20GB models. Just that they exist and their ID shows up in inventory records from EVGA and Gigabyte.

[lone pond]

yea orignal rtx expirmental crap, with horride game implamentation lol

[vale forge]

I just built my pc kinda went overkill. But it’ll be good enough for me probably for 5+ yrs

[proper jungle]

What cpu did you use

[languid knot]

The 2070 super and newer are the only cards that can use ray tracing in a normal application

[terse bloom]

Same. I just built mine a few weeks ago.

[lone pond]

stil not 1 game where u will notice rtx in use constantly during gameplay lol, quake rtx does not count.

[languid knot]

Minecraft

[vale forge]

3900x/Gigabyte Vision D mobo

[dreamy dragon]

wallabi#8489 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

[lone pond]

forgot about minecraft ahha

[vale forge]

Lol

[terse bloom]

There's a few games that says they're gonna be using RTX, isn't there? Minecraft and Fortnite, tho I don't play either. I just see the ads.

[languid knot]

Can’t wait to have a 3080 and 3700x just to play world of tanks and CoD

[lone pond]

tomb raider and metro is the most laughable.. trying to see the difference in tomb raiders shadows is like trying to find waldo... and metro.. it actually makes it look worse 90% of the time

[vale forge]

Even with RTX “2.0” it still kills fps

[languid knot]

I agree. Battlefield 5 can look better quite a bit but not always

And it’s sometimes hard to tell

[lone pond]

very few areas in it

[proper jungle]

@languid knot are you doing your first build

[lone pond]

and its hard to telll, u still have to go out of ur way to look for it

lol

[languid knot]

@proper jungle yes and no

I build a $500 one a few years back but I’m building a much pricier one now

[proper jungle]

I’m trying to learn as much as I can before I do my first build

[terse bloom]

Call of Duty: Black Ops Cold War to feature RTX, Minecraft with RTX Beta, Fortnite Is Now RTX ON (According to nVidia)

[proper jungle]

How much

[languid knot]

$1600 or so

[proper jungle]

Nice

[lone pond]

fortnite is also just reflections right?

[proper jungle]

Does anyone still play fortnite

[languid knot]

3700x, asus TUF mb, and a 3080

[vale forge]

Posted mine in #build-pics. I’ll post a better one when I get home from camping Thursday

[languid knot]

@vale forge do you have a Corsair case or just fans?

[maiden plinth]

RT titles going forward are going to be much more apparent and usable. Look at Cyberpunk if you need to see why everything the new cards bring are going to be incredible.

[lone pond]

im 100% not trusting anything about cyberpunk and rtx until its out and final.

[vale forge]

I got the metallic gear NEO case. Basically a Lian Li O11, but half the price lol

[maiden plinth]

They have gameplay my dude. Came out over the weekend. It makes the city more alive than anything I’ve seen from games like GTA

[lone pond]

yea but thats still not final and shipped

[dreamy dragon]

Ocoom#2547 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

[maiden plinth]

Ooops

[lone pond]

😛

[maiden plinth]

DLSS, like it’s updated version, is why people who had their hopes crushed from the first round of Ray Tracing should be excited now. It makes it genuinely good and not an FPS killer. And it’s something you don’t have to even look for. It just brings the worlds to life

[lone pond]

never trust a gameplay trailer, even from project red... u dont know if its real time or not, even valve faked a trailer for half life 2

untill its a actual person playing it live on camera