People buy them for like $100 sometimes.
#graphics-cards
bitter jungle
merry rune
yeah i see 570's going for $100 all the time
bitter jungle
It’s not a good deal but people pay that much sometimes
merry rune
and 580's going for like 120-130
bitter jungle
It’s so stupid
merry rune
i got an OEM 580 from a Dell for like $80
pale talon
for my build I have a hard cap at $100 including tax spent on the graphics card
and that's for anything
merry rune
but, it's only 4GB and it's a single fan card
pale talon
I'm not willing to go that high for anything less than an RX 580 8GB
merry rune
so it's an improvement over what i had, but it's a dang jet engine
bitter jungle
Ewwwww
cold fossil
OML
it looks like someone literally buried this underground for 1000 years and then used it in their system for the next 15 years
ALSO
YEEEEEEEEEEEEE Finally got an rx570 8gb of beautiful ddr5
cold fossil
Yes Gddr5 XD thx
bitter jungle
Nope. Should be fine
cold fossil
Cool😎 🇳 🇴 🇮 🇨 🇪
bitter jungle
I just did a PC with an i5-4570 and RX 470 and it was great
cold fossil
Wow GG
bitter jungle
Yeah it was pretty great. Sold it yesterday
cold fossil
Im building my first setup with those particular parts
Yeah it was pretty great. Sold it yesterday
@bitter jungle
Cool
Im using the BF5 Darkflash Gaming Case
bitter jungle
BF5? Never heard of it. Lemme look it up
cold fossil
It goes all the way up to E-Atx
bitter jungle
Oh no yeah I have heard of it lol
Seems like a bit too expensive for your lower end parts
cold fossil
But it felt so right XD
bitter jungle
You do you I guess
cold fossil
Mine came with 2 200mm RGB fans
bitter jungle
Yep
cold fossil
They're Amazing
bitter jungle
They look like they’re amazing :P
lone pond
bitter jungle
shhhhh
bitter jungle
Lol
cold fossil
Y...
cold fossil
RLY
cold fossil
80+gold though :/
bitter jungle
Apevia has a rep for making bad PSUs
cold fossil
Rly
bitter jungle
And for future reference, 80+ ratings don’t equal quality
bitter jungle
In #cases-psu-and-cooling there’s a nice little tier list in the pins. Check that out
And model > brand every time. Brands make some trash, and some good power supplies
cold fossil
wow
bitter jungle
Yep
cold fossil
oh ok, those are definately good
Hopefully my new computer doesnt blow up after booting for 5sec
lol
lone pond
what is a good 5700xt
lyric forge
I’ve heard good things about gigabytes 5700xt
kind socket
what gpu can run fortnite at 4k and 240hz?
shut rampart
Directed at me or the other guy lol
granite juniper
the other guy
kind socket
would i have to like SLI two cards to get that gaming quality?
shut rampart
Can a 2070 super run Apex legends 1440p 144hz?
kind socket
id;k but i have a 2060 super and i run fortnite at 1080p at 240 hz just fine
but i dont have a 1440p monitor
ionic crescent
hi yams
shut rampart
@kind socket what settings do you play on?
kind socket
all high settings except for i set shadows to off and effects to low
kind socket
kk
lyric forge
@kind socket Fortnite isn’t super demanding so you wouldn’t need an SLI setup
kind socket
for 4k 240 hz you would lol
arctic phoenix
do those monitors even exist lmao
quartz gull
Yes but they're pricey af
Also they have to use chroma subsampling I believe
Which kills image quality
rigid crag
Why on earth would you want to run fortnite at 4k 240hz lmao
orchid loom
Bc why not
bitter jungle
hi yams
@ionic crescent I wasn't online when you said this... I'm so confused
ionic crescent
lmao
bitter jungle
❓
ionic crescent
I wanted to confuse you
bitter jungle
well you definitely did that :P
ionic crescent
🧈
bitter jungle
🤸♀️
lyric forge
If you had the monitor to have Fortnite 4K at 240hz I think you’d be able to afford an sli setup
bitter jungle
They make 4K 240Hz monitors?
lyric forge
Apparently
lyric forge
True
lyric forge
But hey if you got the $$$ for it
bitter jungle
i mean I guess
lone pond
Price estimate for nividia’s 30 series
rigid crag
My guess is that they'll be slightly more expensive then their respective 2000 series cards
rigid crag
Even if it did i doubt you could get a stable 240hz 4k experience in fortnite
lone pond
Any release date when they come out?
polar bronze
Not yet
rigid crag
Q4 most likely
polar bronze
low settings 4k 240 is possible
rigid crag
Whats the point of 4k then lol
empty crater
paper phoenix
Is 2070 super a good graphics card to run most games at max with RTX on?
faint steeple
yea
its an overall good card @paper phoenix
but
I would suggest waiting until 3000 series line up arrives
its a few months out but
will be worth it to spend on that
paper phoenix
I already ordered the 2070 super budget constraints kept me there but I could upgrade in the future,
faint steeple
o yea mw looked amazing with rtx on
I got it for free when I bought my card in November
I have the Zotac 2070 Super amp extreme
paper phoenix
Yeah I ordered mine and got death stranding for free
Which I’m happy cause I really wanna play that
faint steeple
what cpu did ya order btw?
faint steeple
ah epic!
paper phoenix
I originally planned to go 1 tB SSD and 2 tb hdd but I thought the money + the extra 500 gigs were more worth it
I also went corsair h100i for water cooling
wary anvil
ah epic!
@faint steeple
you mean...
....epyc
faint steeple
lol
paper phoenix
I just really hope it all goes together well this is my first time building a comp
If I hadn’t had to pay for my peripherals tho I woulda went with a 2080 super probably, but I bought like a 200 dollar keyboard 60 dollar mouse and a 100 dollar new gaming desk I haven’t even bought a new headset and chair yet
faint steeple
oof
faint steeple
intel still better for gaming tho @rich oasis
covert atlas
I have a ryzen 5 3600 build for streaming and gaming what’s the best gpu for that build 5600xt or 2060 ko
shut forge
2060 ko
faint steeple
@covert atlas the 2060 would be better for streaming
it has built in nvidia nvenc or something like that which is really good with OBS
hollow zephyr
5600xt
soft geyser
what is the best gpu for a ryzen 7 1700 (i currently have a gtx 1650)
fervent obsidian
i'd wait on the gpu shopping
just to see what the new 3000 series brings in and what prices are at that time
soft geyser
ok cool
bitter jungle
Ryzen 1700 has a weird gaming spot. It doesn't have the greatest performance ever, especially in single core. Maybe 5700 XT?
pure pond
is a 1660 better than a 1060?
fervent obsidian
yes
pure pond
Alright thanks
fervent obsidian
pretty sure it's around 30% faster
bitter jungle
@pure pond if you're in the market for a 1660, get a 1660 super instead. It's very close in price.
The normal 1660 doesn't have enough of a performance jump compared to the 1650 super to justify it's price
pure pond
I was just asking for a friend
analog slate
how hot is to hot or in the range of being hot for a 2080ti
analog slate
so 67 is ok
bitter jungle
definitely
analog slate
Ok
analog slate
yeah its at 90-99%load
analog slate
Ok. I was just checking for future reference
Just so I know when to let it cool off
arctic phoenix
:0
my gpu sits at 82 degrees under load
before the thermal paste change, it spiked to 90+
grand fable
What are people's guestimate's that the 5600 xt's and the 5700 xt's will drop to in the next month?
And are their stabilization issues getting ironed out with newer drivers?
dapper grove
lyric forge
thats a good start
granite juniper
3
spare relic
2
wicked hound
-1
spare relic
:(
wary anvil
PROGRAM CRASH
CAUSE OF CRASH: INTEGER UNDERFLOW ERROR
TO RESOLVE CONSULT MAN PAGE ENTRY "FIZBROBBING THE VARINATOR"
IF ISSUE PERSISTS CONTACT TECH SUPPORT
desert nest
What graphics card is good with a ryzen 5 2600? I’m mostly focusing on gaming, streaming and some video editing
lyric forge
Budget?
hollow zephyr
2060ko
desert nest
yes
signal hill
Hey, games I play started lagging a couple months ago even though there were no updates. Could it be that my gpu is getting too old or does anyone have advice?
merry rune
Check your CPU/GPU temperatures first. If you don't have any way to monitor temperatures, I'd grab an app like HWinfo or something and make sure that your GPU isn't overheating
Is the system regularly cleaned out or anything?
signal hill
Yes I clean it every 2 weeks
merry rune
Ok, I would still check temperatures, but at least if it is overheating, it's not because of any dust problems.
merry rune
Lagging out of nowhere like that sounds like thermal throttling on the surface, so that's an easy thing to check.
Once you install it, when you start it, there's a splash screen to select options. Click 'Sensors only" and then hit Run. it will open a panel with a ton of info, the GPU info is usually down near the bottom.
signal hill
Ok and i have to check the temps when it lags?
merry rune
Yeah, open hwinfo, open up a game, let it run for a bit, and then close it and check the hwinfo reading for the 'maximum' temp under 'GPU Thermal Diode'
signal hill
Ok
merry rune
that will tell you the peak temperature that your GPU hit under full load
if it's upward into the 90+ degree celcius mark, it could be thermal throttling
something like that
and you can check your CPU temperatures at the same time and make sure you aren't throttling there either
if either the CPU or GPU hits a high enough level of heat, it will start lowering clock/memory speeds to try and generate less heat, which will result in performance hits for whatever is running at the time
signal hill
Weird, HWinfo says my gpu is a different one than it is
merry rune
how much of a discrepancy is it? like, similar models or wildly different?
also, do you have an integrated gpu as well as the dedicated one? it could be picking up both or something
signal hill
It says I have the sapphire tri-x varient but i have the standerd sapphire varient
merry rune
sapphire might have just used the same bios for multiple cards of a particular model
or something like that
merry rune
good luck! i'm heading to bed myself
tired sparrow
Is there a way to boost GPU cooling with some sort of aftermarket part outside of case fans?
Do the pcie insert fan supports have merit?
fierce mulch
re-paste , cooler retention mods to increase mount pressure (can be risky), VGA cooler swap to either a bigger better air cooler (morpheus 2 or MK-26 maybe) waterblock (core only or full cover), chiller,single stager, dry ice, cascade, ln2, and if your feeling particularly rich helium
for the most part > paste > making sure your gpu fans are as unobstructed as possible (ideally your case would be fairly low impedance to airflow) > cooler mount pressure mods if your on say a navi or vega gpu though could work on anything with a lack of mount pressure but there is a non -zero risk of cracking or crushing a die
but fans sitting in front of more fans wont really help if those fans are also obstructed
unless they can significantly increase static pressure and actually force more airflow through the VGA cooler
signal hill
The maximum temp got to 94 is that too high?
fierce mulch
on what
a gpu?
also what gpu or componet
and im assuming you mean 94C
for some gpus thats reality (old large GCN cards large fermi cores, large kepler cores, for example) while hot the card will start throttling back
ideally the temp would be lower
but it is fairly relative
pascal for example starts throttling in the 60s
signal hill
What could then be the reason for the lagg?
fierce mulch
gpu throttling, game issues/servers, networking in some games actually too, malware or other software taking up to much of various parts of the system
sometimes badly done gpu drivers can break or otherwise degrade performance in game
signal hill
Well its in all games
fierce mulch
ok then it would have to be throttling of gpu and or cpu, driver related, or system resource contention
signal hill
Drivers wont update for some reason
fierce mulch
notice any changes in day to day performance
as in have you been keeping a eye on task manager or =
if this is linux or whatnot
have you noticed consistanty lower gpu clocks
or cpu clocks
or both
signal hill
Windows i have not been doing that
fierce mulch
well at this point i would your warranty is likely up
and those gpus cause massive pump out issues
due to thermal expansion
...
sounds like you will also want to DDU that driver and see about fixing that
and go from there
also keep a eye on whats running make sure you dont have some malware (other then windows and Cortana itself running) lol
can go from there
thats a good start
rigid crag
So I'm tryna repast this gpu, but it has these wires here. How am I supposed to disconnect them if they don't have enough leeway to get my hand in there
I tried using some needle nose pliers too but they just won't budge
nvm i got it
rigid crag
My gpu fan is rubbing against the fins behind it. Is there a way I can fix this?
Apparently it was a wire, not the fin
so I pushed the wire out of the way
Man, this is ridiculous lol
Now its not displaying a signal
Its displaying while on hdmi tho
Is there a setting that makes a gpu only output on certain ports?
rigid crag
i tried all three display ports tho lol
lone pond
Do you guys think AMD with their Big Navi has a chance to beat Nvidia this year, some leaks point to it being a yes?
merry rune
it's gonna be a close one, with the reported gains on the 3000 series, big navi will have to hit hard right out of the gate
charred talon
They could beat NVIDIA, assuming their drivers aren't crap at launch
fierce mulch
^ thats the biggest issue is sorting out navi drivers
Even if the drivers are not technically inefficient ... If there is a large number of people having black screen issues or some other issue then its goona put a significant damper on things
arctic phoenix
beat in which sense?
5700xt is great value
better than all nvidia cards at that price point
fierce mulch
Why do people even say stuff like that ... Amd has already had cards that beat nvidia cards in the past. Doesnt mean they cant in the future... The influx of cash from ryzen also will help a lot in 3 to 5 years time
Really all we can do with 2 options on the market is hope amd can stay competitive enough
kind wigeon
@arctic phoenix rtx 2070 is better than 5700xt...
also rtx 2070 performs much better in dx12 than 5700xt
fierce mulch
Maybe you were not around for it but 7970 - gtx 680 for example
kind wigeon
tbh I wasn't around rlly back then... im 15 lol
but still
as of rn, nvidia is better
compare flagships for example
amd has 5700 xt
fierce mulch
The biggest issue is just having 2 competitive companies and AMD largely due to intel pulling some really illegal behavior trashing their income for years kinda culminating into the mess we have been seeing tbem climb out of since their stock dropped to 1.80 a share some years back
fierce mulch
Pentium 4 bs where they were paying off benchmarks and system integrators to both show that intels slower parts were faster then amds when in reality they were not... And for system integrators to use only their parts
It took like 12 years of litigation for amd to see money from that
While intel was reaping the boon of having won over mindshare back on P4 era into core 2
It was breaking many consumer protection laws for one in most large countries such as EU , canada , US
arctic phoenix
2070 loses to 5700xt? unless you're thinking abt super. still, its much more expensive than the 5700xt
lyric forge
Bottom line, it’ll be interesting to see how the big Navi cards are gonna compare to the 3000 series nvidia cards. Personally, I think amd has been improving a lot on the gpu side and as long as their drivers aren’t crap they can definitely hold their own against nvidia
fierce mulch
That started the spiral down for amd and that plus a series of bad descisions caused them to be kinda strapped for cash for many years and in the end it caused them to have the FX and GCN issues they did for many years where they dint have enough cash to invest in making new artechatures as well as you have to start esrly with those take like 5 years to come to market
Ryzen was their hail mary
Threw all they had at those cpus for a few years and it saved them from the period they almost went bankrupt at 1.80 ish a share
lyric forge
2070 better for streaming editing and gaming 5700xt better for pure gaming as it lacks in dx12
fierce mulch
Another thing is honestly doesnt particularly matter who had the best stuff
arctic phoenix
2070 also costs an extra 100 ish
fierce mulch
It does matter that both companies have competitive parts across the consumer and enterprise market
lyric forge
True
lone pond
wait the 5700xt lacks in dx12?
lyric forge
Compared to the 2070
lone pond
oh ok
fierce mulch
If amd only competes up to 450 buck cards thats fine as long as they can also somewhat compete going forward within the enterprise market as well
lyric forge
But for pure gaming at that price point it’s better than nvidia cards
lone pond
i am getting a 5700xt
fierce mulch
And if they have a gpu division that is making a profit
lone pond
my other option was a 2070
lyric forge
Don’t let that discourage you from getting one it’s a great card
lone pond
but it was out of my budget
lyric forge
Ya you made a good decision
fierce mulch
Likely the same price as anything they compete with from nvidia
fierce mulch
Amd stopped trying to undercut nvidia
Like they did for so many years
As a whole nvidia bascially controls pricing now
fierce mulch
The only way this is goona get fixed is wait for amd to have a huge gpu boost from the cash influx from ryzen (roughly 5 years time from the start) or intel comes in and fixes pricing (wont be soon)
lyric forge
Haha
kind wigeon
@arctic phoenix what I was saying was 2070 is almost as good as the 5700xt, but outperforms so much in dx12
fierce mulch
We just kinda have to deal with what comes down the pipe for a few more years untill something changes
lyric forge
Did you say intel fixing pricing
kind wigeon
yea
fierce mulch
As intel comes in unless they have stupid fast parts ... To get market share up they will have to undercut nvidia due to the fact no one will trust their stuff off the get go
Especially in the enterprise market
kind wigeon
@arctic phoenix no... 2070 has ray tracing, and they both the same price 😎
arctic phoenix
almost a 50$ difference
fierce mulch
Issue is ray tracing at the moment is kinda worthless
The tensor cores for compute and AI sure
kind wigeon
what r u talking about? You can get a 2070 for 400$ new
fierce mulch
But at the moment unless your adding raytracing to minesweeper most people cant afford a card that can raytrace at a competent level
So it kinda ends up being a mostly meh gimmick
lyric forge
lyric forge
I was just trying to compare gigabyte to see the similarities and difference
fierce mulch
Actually the other funny thing to note is amd has had the more advanced gpu artechature historically
Nvidia traditionally brute forces stuff
lyric forge
True
fierce mulch
GCN for example was significantly more advanced however was underutilized
lyric forge
I really liked these past Radeon cards
fierce mulch
Um gcn ? Vega ? Navi
lyric forge
Gcn and Navi I liked, didnt try Vega at all
fierce mulch
My issue with navi has been the drivers
Which between that and the pricing is still while im on pascal like 4 years later
With the number of times nvidia has screwed me i dont want to buy one of their cards but i might have to really depends
lyric forge
Nvidia drivers are definitely superior, but towards the end of Navi amd started to clean up
fierce mulch
I still have friends with navi cards having driver issues while a small portion of the userbase i dont want to deal with that
lyric forge
Word
fierce mulch
And nvidia drivers over the past 4 years have been pretty garbage
They are getting a bit better again but not as good as they could be
lyric forge
True, but at least they’re more functional than the Navi cards were at first
fierce mulch
I can name a number of games where the driver for that game launch actually breaks the game
lyric forge
Dang
safe flower
i have a msi gtx 1080 ti twin forza , im thinking of a nvidia rtx 2080 ti founder edition, 1 ilke the looks of the 2080 + i can get it for a good price in the uk
fierce mulch
Remember dishonored launch for example
lyric forge
Yikes
fierce mulch
Also nvidias been having issues with security and geforce experience , they moved control panel to the microsoft store only , they stopped supporting people with sheild devices years ago
lyric forge
@safe flower if you can get the rtx 2080 ti fe for a good price go for it, but if you already got the 1080 ti it might not be worth it unless you really went ray trading
*tracing
fierce mulch
Their 2nd to last driver out broke another game i play -planetside 2 i had to roll back and skip the driver
lyric forge
Yes nvidia is sus at times
wicked hound
Don't get a 2080Ti now. New GPUs are coming out soon
safe flower
i wont ray tracing,lol
lyric forge
Want?
safe flower
want,doh
lyric forge
Ah rtx looks nove on 2080 ti
fierce mulch
Bascially i dont want to buy a nvidia card ... Im tired of dealing with them that control panel move to windows store was the last straw for me
lyric forge
Like hei said it might not be worth getting one now, unless you can get it for a really good price
Understandable
fierce mulch
But i have to see what happens next gen cause there is no point is me moving now
safe flower
they are a good price on ebay,new one at the moment
fierce mulch
Literally the reason im still on a 1060
lyric forge
How much?
wicked hound
@safe flower "good prices" like $700 USD? That could be the price of a 2080Ti after new GPUs
safe flower
£900 instead of £1149
lyric forge
If you’re willing to spend £900 right now I’d just wait for the new cards to drop
safe flower
graphics card are a lot pricier in the uk
lyric forge
Sweet
safe flower
i did have 2 x gtx 970 ,s in sli that was awesome
rigid crag
Anyone know why a gpu would only be displaying a signal through hdmi and not any of its 3 display ports?
arctic phoenix
broken hdmi cable maybe?
rigid crag
Its not the cable
And hdmi is the one that works
The display port is not giving the signal
Ik its not the cable because I was just using it with a different gpu
lyric forge
So the dp cable works correct?
rigid crag
Yes @lyric forge
lyric forge
Hmmm could you try the gpu in another system?
rigid crag
I can tomorrow
opal zodiac
How many rx580 types are there?
fierce mulch
define types
there is a china only 2048 rx 580
then there is the normal 2304 version (36 CUs 144 texture units , 32 rops ) kitted with 4 or 8 gb of memory
... if you add in bios changes for stock OC cards and after market cards then there is many more "types"
pale talon
Bought a mining card
Dirty as hell
Dusted, cleaned, scrubbed, and repasted
Before and after: https://imgur.com/a/QwAfFSf
lyric forge
Looking good 👌
wicked hound
well, "mining" card. True mining card is video portless
bitter jungle
Card used for mining
wicked hound
"mining" card used for mining
pale talon
hei
bitter jungle
hei
pale talon
I will reach into my screen and slap you
lightly
but it will be enough to make you cry for a week
toodles
bitter jungle
pale talon
lone pond
I tried to scream, but my head was under water
pale talon
lone pond
Issa meme
bitter jungle
Your face is a meme
dreamy dragonBOT
That Unknown Operator#5031 has been warned
bitter jungle
L
pale talon
lolololol
wicked hound
I will reach into my screen and slap you
you're welcome
half goblet
what would be a good graphics card to upgrade to from a rx 570, around $250
half goblet
ok what brand
hollow zephyr
gigabyte
half goblet
ok thx
hollow zephyr
the 3fan variant
hollow zephyr
Yaya
safe flower
hi guys , has anybody put there card in a vertical mount,does it improve air flow
looks much better
lyric forge
I don’t think it has quite as good airflow when vertically mounted, but if you have a good fan layout or rad setup your thermals should be fine
It does look sweet though
This looks so good vertical
safe flower
your prices in usa and much better then the uk
lyric forge
Oh ya definitely
When you pulled up that pcp list I was like what
And then you said that it was CAD
Oh wait that was smartman
Oops
safe flower
o great, ill go for looks as i have a good fan/cooling system,lol
lyric forge
Nice
next finch
Quick streaming tech related question
If I get another graphics card, can I game on my rtx 2070 and have streamlabs do the processing on my like 1160 for example
neat kiln
old hemlock
Hey all, wanted to know if the 1660 super would be a goodish gpu? Plan is with either 3600 x or 3600 (which one would be better if those two) or if I should get something like a rx 5700 xt??
/ what would the FPS be around for games like COD, OW, Csgo, valorant, ark and stuff. Thanks!
lyric forge
1660 super is definitely a solid card. Should pair nicely with the 3600 or 3600x (is go with the x because it has a better stock cooler). You should get the 5700xt if you’re doing purely gaming, but nvidia thrives in anything other than that. So go 1660 super if you’re doing gaming plus possible editing, streaming, coding etc. But if you’re doing just gaming I’d go 5700xt
Not sure what frames you’d get for those games but there are plenty of benchmarks online you can find
One game I do know is ark and that game is so poorly optimized so you probably won’t get great frames, but those other games are definitely more than playable at medium/high settings
old hemlock
Alright, thanks so much! I’ll look into those benchmarks and stuff for the games. Thanks again for the answer!
lyric forge
Sure thing, good luck 👍
I don’t have much experience with SLI setups, but for an SLI setup do they both need to be the same graphics card I.e. x2 2080 super or can one be like a primary card (2080 super) and one be a secondary card
safe flower
i used a gtx 970 sli set up, i think they need to be much the same
msi 970 and a asus 970 some thing like that
buoyant stone
Is it worth buying a 2070 super over a 2080 non super?
rigid crag
Barely any difference
lyric forge
@torn tundra how would you say xfx gpus are
rigid crag
2070s tends to run slightly cheaper so go for that
lyric forge
@buoyant stone not a huge difference, just see which you can get a better deal on
torn tundra
XFX is a good brand!
Sometimes their stuff can clock lower but that's in the older cards
buoyant stone
2080 for $528
torn tundra
Definitely 2070s
buoyant stone
Used
rigid crag
2070s all day
torn tundra
You get newer hardware, cheaper, and according to some benchmark methods is equal to a 2080
rigid crag
No need to get a 2080 used for more lol
buoyant stone
True
lyric forge
Good to know, Zach! I had heard that some of their stuff runs hot and performs low but glad to hear otherwise 👍
safe flower
I watched a YouTube video about all the rtx vs each other and the 2070 s beat the 2080 on a few games
Or just behind it
That was the nvidia fe versions
kind wigeon
2080 is usually better...
2070s apparently has a year of refinery in the rtx on dept
safe flower
2080 in the uk are very hard to get hold of
kind wigeon
must be fun living in the uk
constant rain
everybody has awesome accents
@safe flower
safe flower
lol, run up the apple and pairs
= stairs
no rain today and it was very warm 22c
must go and talk to the carving knife
= wife
ripe elk
Hmmm
So theres gigabyte radeon rx 5500 gaming with 3 fans right
and theres one with 2 fans
For 10 dollars less
And the core clock 8s slightly slower
Would 3 fans be a better deal?
safe flower
is it longer and will it fit in your case??
wicked hound
basically all rx5500 are bad due to just being overpriced RX580s
cosmic finch
Hey, apologies if I've got the wrong channel but I keep getting an error from windows saying "No AMD graphics driver is installed..." but the thing is, I've got an NVIDIA graphics card, any advice?
jovial ferry
I doubt it is a windows error. ss?
cosmic finch
I just shot you a direct message!
safe flower
unistall your nvidia drivers and then re install
safe flower
😩
cosmic finch
Thank you though!
safe flower
are you running amd or intel
buoyant stone
Is it worth it to go from a 2070 super to a 2080 super?
lyric forge
Not really, if you’re gonna upgrade from 2070s I’d wait for 3000 series and buy one of those for similar price
rigid crag
I wouldnt say a 2070 to 80 is not any difference lol. But I do agree that if you want more than a 2070 then wait a few months till 3000 series
safe flower
3080 ti is going to run up to 50% fater then a 2080 ti
no way
i was watching a youtube video
static zinc
50% faster? lol says who
wary anvil
I doubt you will see that much improvement
wary anvil
Is ampere capable of 50% greater performace? Heck yeah. Will nvidia put that in a 3080 ti? Probably not
static zinc
how else u going to sell the super ti ceo edition?
wary anvil
Yup
static zinc
i just hope the efficiency is higher and it can be cooled effectively looking at that wild design
wary anvil
I've said it before, but I'll say it again. Gamers don't get the big guns
I'm thinking that design might actually improve cooling
Really bad drawing
static zinc
im hoping the 3080 can handle being in a sff case
should be around the same performance as the 2080 ti right?
wary anvil
Should be greater performance
My guess is that 3070 will be roughly the same as a 2080
static zinc
the 8000 rtx would be ideal but yeah..price
half goblet
if i were to get gigabytes 1660 super should i spend an extra 10 bucks for the 3 fan version
wary anvil
I'd say might as well
granite juniper
ko was designed to fight the 5600 xt
fervent obsidian
what kind of games
dim elm
granite juniper
if it doesnt amd is gonna be in pain
half goblet
r6, minecraft, csgo, valorent, hyper scape, assasins creed, other various steam games, gta5
@fervent obsidian
fervent obsidian
hmm those are all relatively easy to run
personally i would go with a 1660 super because it is a really good card and save a few bucks and upgrade another time if you plan on it
if you don't plan on upgrading anytime soon i'd probably get the 2060 but that's just me
half goblet
i would upgrade after about 2 years something like that if i still want to
a year or 2
fervent obsidian
id probably get the 2060
it's a beast
well the 1660 super is a beast as well so i'm kind of conflicted here
help
hollow zephyr
1660s
Tbh
I wouldn't get an rtx card as of rn
Cuz next gen is gonna be way better
Hopefully
And if you want amd a 5600xt is a nice option
arctic phoenix
go for 5700 for the potential bios flash
lone pond
Is there any performance differences between the Rx 580 and the XFX Rx 580 Gts XXX edition?
safe flower
new toy
static zinc
nice card, what are you plans with it?
bitter jungle
Gaem
safe flower
@static zinc stick in my pc but vertical mount it as it looks better, running a strix z370-g mb + i7 8700k + 32gb 3000mhz ram, and try out ray tracing on death stranding
wicked hound
as nice as it is, 3000 is about to be here tho
static zinc
ah cool
safe flower
i know i should of waited,too late it here 😩
wicked hound
2080Ti should last ya for quite a while tho
static zinc
i never thought ray tracing would make it to game
but that was 20 years ago
ive got an old 750 ti but want to upgrade soon
safe flower
i have a nice 1080 ti to sell now,still very good
static zinc
yeah thats a solid card wish i would have bought one at release
my gpu work just wasnt there yet
now gpgpu is built into all my apps i use
safe flower
whats your cpu you run
static zinc
well for my work sff its a 3900x
safe flower
very nice
static zinc
all the heavy lifting will soon be done by 8x 7702 servers
safe flower
i have sitting up stairs a strix z390-h + i9 9900k to go with my card
static zinc
waiting on a dan case right now and video card then my build is done
since its small form factor efficiency is really important
safe flower
sounds like you know what your doing
static zinc
ive been waiting quite a while to upgrade, my last build was 10 years ago
going from a q9550 to 3900x was a 700% improvement
bitter jungle
Speed
safe flower
i never got into amd ryzen always been intel
bitter jungle
Ryzen gang
static zinc
yeah all my gear was intel for the last decade
the 3900x impressed me so much im doing all amd this time around tho
bitter jungle
5700 XT?
static zinc
they dont have optane but memory extension is pretty good
safe flower
is it cheaper and better then say the i9 9900k
static zinc
@bitter jungle nah i have to use nvidia for my software unfortunately
static zinc
i did want to do an all amd build but it wasnt possible
oh i mean all my servers
ive got all the parts just waiting for the boards right now for the servers
bitter jungle
is it cheaper and better then say the i9 9900k
In workstations tasks (like video editing) 3900X is better. In gaming I’m pretty sure 9900k still has the advantage
safe flower
cool so im ok for now
bitter jungle
I wish I had 9900k
safe flower
i have one in a box,do a deal??
bitter jungle
Lol nah I don’t got the money for dat
safe flower
put it in my z370 and got a blue screen
bitter jungle
Weird
safe flower
after updating bios to the lastest so i have done the bios again and will try once more
if not ill change the mb
asus web site says my mb should run it
$5 a month until paid , ha ha
silver kayak
I have an old build I haven’t really used in a few years due to lack of good internet. If I were to update the graphics card would it be capable of playing any newer games? I think the current specs were Phenom II x4 BE 3.5 ghz, 16 GB DDR3 RAM, GTX 660 TI.
kind wigeon
WOAH
@silver kayak no point... almost nothing can be salvaged, but you could sell those things, and maybe reuse the case, and posssssibly psu
much doubt tho in the quality of gamng performance in that thing
silver kayak
Man it was a beast when built but of course doesn’t take long lol.
kind wigeon
yea, all PCs are like that 
lyric forge
This is what my dad showed me when I told him I wanted to spend 1000 bucks on my first pc
silver kayak
Thought it might be at least somewhat salvageable. Been running on Xbox One X but before invested in a series X considering going back to PC.
static zinc
rip moore
lone pond
Is there any performance differences between the Rx 580 and the XFX Rx 580 Gts XXX edition?
safe flower
yo
if i have the lastest gpu and lastest drivers, do i need to upgrade my dp cable as the fe version card saying its version 1.4 dp connection
lyric forge
Does it work with the dp cable you have
half goblet
im about to buy a display port cable, does it matter which one i buy or are they all the same
safe flower
Yes it works with the one I have
safe flower
But there is one that does 4k 60 hz
And then theres a 1.4 version that carry 8k 60mhz
1440p at 144mhz
safe flower
@kind wigeon im usuing 1440p at 144mhz do i need a better dp cable??
kind wigeon
you need displayport 1.4
safe flower
correct answer,lol
i have a old one and just done some searching
thank you i was only joking 👍
@kind wigeon thank you
kind wigeon
lol np
yea also fyi @safe flower dp 1.4 can do 4k @ 144 hz
not just 2k
and it can do 8k at 30 fps, not 60
safe flower
your the top man for tech help
kind wigeon
lol I try
safe flower
half goblet
@kind wigeon im currently on a 60hz 1080p monitor but my next upgrade with be a 144hz 1440p monitor so i thought ill just buy a dp cable now instead of using hdmi
half goblet
so what dp cable
1.4 or whatever its called
does this work for 1440p 14hz
144hz*
half goblet
safe flower
you need the 1.4 for that config
safe flower
same one as i just got,delivered tomorrow
about the same price too
either one of those would do, the one i picked was recommend by amazon
i have a old cable and a new 1.4 dp port on the back of my card so its not displaying as good as it could
2080 ti
safe flower
Have you got a 2080 ti?
timid stump
I have an older computer runs a AMD Phenom 9650 runs a Quad Core processor, current Nvidia is a GeForce 9800 GT, gpu clock is 550, current memory clock is 900 MHz, overclock to 1375 MHz, seems the 9800 is no longer in production which graphics card show I use
normal moat
Thinking about building a new pc, should i wait to snag a graphics card when the 3000 series comes out?
bitter jungle
Yeah cause mods changed it to that
normal moat
Would a Ryzen 3700x bottleneck the 3000 series?
bitter jungle
You might be able to change it back in nickname settings
bitter jungle
Depends on the GPU. 3080 ti maybe. 3070 or less probably not
normal moat
Are they making another super variant with 3000’s?
bitter jungle
Probably
normal moat
I was planning on getting a 2080 super until the 3000’s got leaked/announced
bitter jungle
Yeah not worth to get 2080 rn
normal moat
I wanna see how 3000 performs before i buy anything
normal moat
What would be like the next step up in a ryzen processor? I know the 3800x isn’t a huge jump at all but what would be.
bitter jungle
Probably something 4000 series when that comes out
It’d be so absurdly not worth it to go from 3700X to 3800X
normal moat
I know the ryzen 9 3900x is a 12 core 24 thread but does it actually perform well? I haven’t looked at any videos of it. $420 is pretty steep
bitter jungle
Probably still not worth it from 3700X
Just get a Ryzen 4000 series when they launch if you’re looking for upgrade
normal moat
okay
pearl fractal
Good rtx 2060 card that pairs well with 3600x
rigid crag
2060ko
pearl fractal
Thx
rigid crag
Yur
half goblet
whats better about dp over hdmi
half goblet
so what kind of dp cord should i get
granite juniper
1.4 should be fine
half goblet
if im only doing 1080/1440p 144hz gaming why cant i just save my money and get a hdmi 2.0 or is there something im gonna lose if i dont get a dp cord
prisma tulip
whats the best gpu to buy rn under 700$
lunar bloom
Is the RTX 2060 a good Gpu?
vital zephyr
It's good.
lone pond
How good is a dual GeForce GT 545 setup?
cyan swift
Can someone help me out with my graphics?
I’m playing fortnite through GeForce now
And my graphics are dog shit
half goblet
idk dude i own an amd card and dont play fortnite
polar bronze
what's your network speed?
polar bronze
that should be decent for geforce now, probably the wifi tho
cyan swift
Wym?
cyan swift
How can I fix this horrible rendering
polar bronze
send a screenshot?
polar bronze
looks like fortnite to me lol
cyan swift
How do I fix
polar bronze
geforce now settings?
polar bronze
go to custom and turn up resolution
polar bronze
that should be better
cyan swift
i didnt change anything..
polar bronze
yeah the wifi is unstable
cyan swift
So what should I do
polar bronze
ethernet
cyan swift
I get no lag on ps4
polar bronze
...
cyan swift
What?
polar bronze
the ps4 is rendering it locally, the pc is streaming it
polar bronze
it's a hardwired connection to your router
polar bronze
any electronics store
cyan swift
And I’m 13, how do I convince my mom to let me run a wire to my room?
@polar bronze
Hello?
does it matter what cable i get? or no?
wicked hound
what Nvidia GPU is that?
polar bronze
geforce now
wicked hound
nvm, using GF Now
turn down bitrate to 6mbps/12mbps rather then max
dont need to try and 100% the bitrate part of it when streaming barely takes any bitrate
cyan swift
so lowering to 10% bitrate will fix the freezing/lag? @wicked hound
wicked hound
is it % based? Shouldnt be
wicked hound
what are you streaming to?
wicked hound
laptop on wifi?
wicked hound
what are the bitrate options?
cyan swift
where
wicked hound
wicked hound
probs try putting that to 38, mistake on thinking... shouldnt be that low
how easy is it for you to get 45 - 50mbps down?
cyan swift
max is 50
wicked hound
know you did one test
cyan swift
wym
cyan swift
yea?
wicked hound
do you consistently stay around there? Or is your internet used a lot more and on average you get like say 30 down
cyan swift
consistent
wicked hound
ye, probs keep at 38 then to allow for overhead
cyan swift
so now lag will be gone?
wicked hound
it might, might not be
Im just trying to use standard internet tactics here. Never used GFN
cyan swift
why dont people like mx browns
im using gfn bc im hwid banned on fortnite, and gfn fixed it
wicked hound
well that's nice I guess
wicked hound
bitrate might help a bit. Probs also have res down to like 900p or smth instead of 1080p
polar bronze
prices?
lone pond
I have the 1660 super
From evga
Its pretty good to me
I had an old bit mined 1070 before hand which was terrible
So this is like a breath of fresh air
Gtx 1070 goes for about 350 - 650
Super goes for about 240
Its an awesome budget card
Yes best of its price range
Honestly the 1660s will compete with the base 1070
Most people used the 1070 for 1080p
And the 1660 super has turing so it can literally stream better
Im currently using the 1660s until I can afford a 2080
It wont run some games really well
Mordhau in particular
I’ve currently got some Radeon r7 200 series thing and I’m upgrading to a 2070s
I play a lot of new this gen games
LOL
nice
It’s like 10 years old
Yeah bro
It’s so bad
Wtf do you even play
What I can play really haha
Not much
doom
nes emulators
Csgo, overwatch
lol you can play overwatch on that?
I discovered I can run the first watchdogs game
Yeah I play on medium settings
The cpu I have isn’t bad but it’s old
bro with the 2070 you're gonna bleed your wallet dry with the amount of games you can play
what cpu?
AMD 6350 or something
I'd reccomend i5-9400f
they are cheap and quick
I’m getting the i7-10700k
damn
Going all out huh
make sure you get an aio cooler
Yeah if I was building a good budget build I’d probably pick that
Of course
The 10k series rhns hot
yeah
I got a hydraxx from deepcool
Cost me 20 bucks
But I want noctua ideally
I was considering spending like $400 more on a custom loop but I was like “nah I want to have enough money left to live on” lmao
Nah no need for those
Water cooling is being proven less effective the hotter your system gets
Yeah
Linus did a video recently about these new auorus coolers
I believe
Its like this massive 2 pound monstrosity
Also I think the build looks cleaner with just and aio
But it can keep a threadripper cool
Same
My brothers friend has a threadripper for graphic design and I think he just uses and aio
Yeah
red dagger
what's the most you'd pay for a 1080 ti hybrid these days. i have a 1070 hybrid rn but i have an itch to upgrade but don't want to go balls out. looking at used cards and could use a little guidance. thanks all
stable garnet
Guys
lone pond
that does sound like a bit of a bottleneck
sonic mural
Imo I would go for 3700x, but that's just me
lone pond
plus the 2070s is still very capable and is a huge upgrade to my radeon r7 200 series thing
void quest
crimson moat
Yo guys just curious I have a 1660 ti and a Ryzen 5, When I stream Call of Duty there is a lag on the stream but not in the game what do I do?
brisk flame
Make sure your GPU is handling the stream encoding
And make sure you have a good enough internet connection
Make sure you're on a wired network
Wifi won't cut it
rich oasis
@lone pond @lone pond it would not be at least its like very minimal
It is stupid to over pay for cpu and not enough on cpu
Your spending 500 on cpu and cooler
While with a 3600 or a 3700x it comes with cooler and significantly cheaper
You get a decent amount of perf more
If anything and you are a intel fan boy get a 10600k if you are an ok ocer
acoustic ginkgo
I'm favoring going for a 2060 Super. I might want to dabble in doing some streaming or recording videos. Plus, well, might as well jump in and snag a decent card. If I got a 1660 Super I'd probably want to be replacing it in two or so years. The 2060S will probably last longer.
sullen nest
Hey I have a question I’m not sure if it can be answered and not totally sure if this is the chat to ask it in but here goes nothing. Do we know a projection of how much the 2000series gpus are going to go down when the 3000 series come out?
balmy magnet
some ppl are saying they will not go down as the manufacturing of them has already been retooled for the 3000 series so the 2000 will be more scarce and thus still priced pretty close to what it is now, idk tho just telling what i have heard from YT PC people
buoyant stone
Is a 2080 super for $640 good? Used
wicked hound
Okay pricing. But also 3000 coming out soon so eh
static zinc
used? nah not really
u can get them for $700 new
they have been as low as $580 recently new also but that was a sale
buoyant stone
$580? Wow
sullen nest
Yea I’ve got a gigabyte 2080 super white in my pc part picker list new for 739 bucks it’s factory oc windforce and the 3 fan version
tame iris
so im looking to get a 2060 super and is 370 for a used one good?
there is also is one thats 390 and its a founders edition
bitter jungle
370 for used 2060 S? Heck no
rigid crag
Just buy a new one lol
tame iris
how much are the new ones?
rigid crag
400ish
tame iris
really
granite juniper
400 give or take $20
rigid crag
Yep
rigid crag
What?
tame iris
and is 390 not used for the founders edition good?