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boreal turret
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Bored tho

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So what paint should I use

arctic phoenix
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hydrochloric acid

boreal turret
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Ok I'll update when I'm done

wicked hound
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Depends on the paint as well paint thickness. Thin paint job with mosy paint types won't insulate it much. However a thick job with some type of paint can cause more insulation then desired

boreal turret
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Is hydrochloric acid too thicc?

plucky gyro
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1660ti and 1660 super is their a big difference?

boreal turret
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FR tho would white hydrodip work for GPU and aio

wicked hound
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Can't hydrodip the fins afaik. So can do GPU shroud, but that's it

boreal turret
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Yeah I was thinking of painting shroud then getting a custom backplate, but the fans might look a little odd. Is there a easy way to paint the fans?

mystic shadow
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idk

ember imp
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@plucky gyro not really

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Few FPS difference

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Super is better value

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Cost much less with similar performance to the TI

hard wren
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you can spray paint fans if careful

boreal turret
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Wait what am I saying I meant Plasti dip šŸ¤¦ā€ā™‚ļø

hexed forge
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I wouldn't use plastidip on a gpu or aio

royal copper
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hydrodip?

hard wren
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dont hyprodip/plasti dip the fans

wicked hound
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Nor can you really do that to an AIO

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Thin coat of paint is probs your best bet

oak lake
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So if I have a G-Synch Monitor from 2018 and an AMD GPU, is there no way I will get more than 60hz refresh rate out of monitor?

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Because I have to be using G-Sync to enjoy the refresh rate over 60hz, am I right about that?

torpid garden
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G-sync will drop the monitor's actual refresh rate to <60 hz when your gameplay drops below 60hz.

soft quarry
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Anyone know if it's worth saving up around $100 more to go from buying a 2060s to a 2070s?

oak lake
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Ok, thanks for the information. I'm still not sure if it's possible for me to push past 60 fps. I have a Dell Alienware AW3418DW 34" and an AMD RX Vega 64. It is a little disappointing at the moment that I dont get that smooth framerate that I notice my friends with matched gpus and monitors have.

lone pond
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i have a gtx 1060 3gb im looking for a upgrade for cheap i was thinking a gtx 1660s or a rtx 2060 ko

rigid crag
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Ok šŸ†’ļø

wicked hound
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2060 KO should really only be bought for workstation stuff. It's cooling is garbage compared to other AIB cards at that price

vital zephyr
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so

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does AMD still have terrible drivers?

wicked hound
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Mixed bag. Also depends on AIB too. For example Sapphire Pulse 5700(XT) had video port issues, I think it was anything but HDMI would be glitchy with black screens and such (so goodbye freesync cuz no DP). Idk if that's been fixed now. General AMD drivers I havent heard issues of for a bit tho

vital zephyr
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nice nice

shrewd zenith
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any deals on the 580 RX 8GB around?

fallen schooner
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ĀÆ_(惄)_/ĀÆ

prime jay
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I gotta 480 8gb

ember imp
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AMD drivers are hit or miss

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Some people haven’t had any issues with them

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Some people have had to return the card with how many issues they had

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Personally I haven’t had that many issues

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A couple of black screen crashes here and there but nothing major

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Although I can’t use any gpu monitoring software like msi afterburner while I’m using DisplayPort or my screen with flicker

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So that kind of sucks

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But other than that drivers are fine for me

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Just realized that convo was like 10 hours ago

soft quarry
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I currently have an AMD card and even though I'm getting an Nvidia card I haven't had many problems with the AMD drivers besides a few issues that were easy to fix

lone pond
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so im playing a game i play a lot and just now my graphics card is going insane with usage surges and the fan speed is really high and its never had this problem before

royal copper
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well you want to fully utilize your gpu when playing games

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you can always check task manager to see if there are any background processes taking up the gpu

oak lake
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...give me the sequence calculations... NOW!

granite juniper
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also setting a custom fan curve with afterburner or something might help with the fan speed

rigid crag
granite juniper
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lmao cooling system: fan

rigid crag
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lmao

royal copper
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that's pretty descriptive

lone pond
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what cooling system do you use?

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FAN

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ok? how kind of fans?

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Fans

oak lake
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I thought I had to put ice cubes on it. No wonder it broke.

boreal turret
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You need white monster ice cubes not water lmao what a joke

royal copper
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dry ice cubes šŸ˜‰

rigid crag
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Make sure you replenish them often

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To prevent thermal throttling

spare relic
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I prefer air cubes 😤

lone pond
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i just thinked of a new way to cool gpus

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what if you stick a gpu chip on the gpu chip. They both get hot what if the other chip sucks the temperature of the other chip and it repeats

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and it creates a vortex somehow and im not gonna explain how

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and the heat just goes inside the vortex

normal hawk
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Now featuring, "Mini Tornado Cooling"

Codename Vortex

sudden crown
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i have the legendary r9 280x

woven field
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I just realized the rog logo isn't an angry eye

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its rg

royal copper
boreal turret
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I still think it's an eye

royal copper
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i didn't know it could be a angry eye or a rg

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ĀÆ_(惄)_/ĀÆ

raven stump
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will a 1660 ti run most games high settings into the next several years?

spice prawn
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not likely

wicked hound
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most games arent AAA, you didnt specify resolution, nor did you specify desired refresh rate

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So... yes

lone pond
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i need a new gpu i have 200 bucks what should i buy

spare relic
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Bruh why the GDDR6 1650 slower than the GDDR5 version šŸ˜”

normal hawk
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Whats your CPU @lone pond

lone pond
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ryzen 5 3600

normal hawk
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I think the 580 8gb would be good since its like 160$ or 170$. if you can spend a little over your budget I believe the 1660 Super would be better however

lone pond
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i have a gtx 1060 3gb so need something better than that im ok with used stuff

last gale
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@normal hawk doesn't the 580 run super hot

normal hawk
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My brothers room is like a sauna ya

last gale
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same

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my room is as well

normal hawk
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My new GPU's fans are nice. like a personal air conditioner

last gale
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aha

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what gpu do you have

normal hawk
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I got an RTX 2070 Super

last gale
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ah ye

acoustic ginkgo
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I admit I want a 2060. But unfortunately the 1660 Super is what's in my price range. But it should still be a good card for someone who's content with 1080p gaming and isn't looking to dip into the most demanding titles out there.

normal hawk
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I have a 1660 Super since I traded my RTX 2060 to my brother so he could have a small upgrade

boreal turret
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Why tho

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Imagine being nice

last gale
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what is the GTX 970's competitor?

boreal turret
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I keep my computer parts :-)

normal hawk
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Eh

boreal turret
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Jk that was very kind of you

normal hawk
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I would have no reason to keep it.

acoustic ginkgo
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I mostly play World of Warcraft, Sims 4, sometimes Guild Wars 2, and some other assorted older games.

normal hawk
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A 1660 Super would be fine for ya @acoustic ginkgo

lone pond
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i think im going to get a gtx 1070 ti or a 1660 super

acoustic ginkgo
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I can't reuse my old graphics card since it's built into my laptop, or I would just stick with my 1060 a while longer.

normal hawk
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I could always mail you a 240 or 560 ti lol

lone pond
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i have a proud Rtx 2070

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i miss my gtx 1660ti

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and i miss my very old Gtx Titan

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and my Intel HD graphics gpu

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the one that cant even run roblox

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and minecraft

tough ledge
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Good morning folks, I recently bought a 27" "QHD" monitor from NewEgg, and I am supposed to change the display resolution to 2560x1440, but the "Intel HD Graphics" card on my desktop computer only goes up to 2048x1152. I think I need to replace it, but I am bewildered and overwhelmed by the options. So, I have two questions: 1. Can I just go with any budget priced graphics card (for me, that is <$75; for example, "MSI GeForce GT 710 DirectX 12 GT 710 1GD3H LP 1GB 64-Bit DDR3 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready Low Profile Video Card")? (Please bear in mind that almost none of that descriptive text means anything to me). 2. If not, could someone describe the "bare minimum" requirements for a QHD graphics card? I am not a gamer, mostly use this computer for doing videoconference meetings (I am an educator), watching movies, reading, etc. Thank you!

spice prawn
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@tough ledge is your current machine something you have assembled yourself?

tough ledge
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No, it's a Dell optiplex 7010 that I bought on NewEgg.

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Here is more info: Processor: Intel Core i5-3470 CPU @ 3.20GHz; Installed RAM: 16.0 GB; System type: 64-bit operating system, x64-based processory.

spice prawn
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@tough ledge does your specific version of the 7010 come with a displayport connector on the back?

tough ledge
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Yes, it does. One display port, and one "DVI" (but not an HDMI port).

spice prawn
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are you using displayport at the moment or?

tough ledge
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Right now I have a cable that is DVI on the computer end, and HDMI on the monitor end.

spice prawn
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does the monitor have a Displayport input?

tough ledge
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Yes, it does. Also, I was wrong about the cable: it's Displayport on the computer end, and HDMI on the monitor end.

spice prawn
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hm

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let me guess, you are currently limited to 1920 * 1200 ?

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reason i keep asking about this, is the following info from Intel about the GPU that is in your cpu

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For 2nd and 3rd Generation IntelĀ® Coreā„¢ Processors the maximum supported resolutions are:

DisplayPort 1.1 = 2560x1600 at 60 Hz
HDMI 1.4 = 1920x1200 at 60 Hz
DVI (Single-link) = 1920x1200 at 60 Hz
VGA = 2048x1536 at 75 Hz

tough ledge
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Interesting! You're close: I'm limited to 2048x1152. So does that mean I could just buy a new cable, that is DP on both ends?

spice prawn
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so IF you have a displayport to displayport cable, you might be able to forego getting a new graphics card

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i would say it is worth trying to ask around if someone has a cable you could borrow for a quick test

tough ledge
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Thank you! Great advice: I'll do that. Much appreciated.

spice prawn
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You are very welcome :)

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no need to spend more money than you have to :)

tough ledge
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Especially these days. Sigh šŸ˜‰

spice prawn
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indeed

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and just for future reference

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that is the intel page with the info

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and your cpu is a 3rd gen

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(the above is also in case someone else helps you in the future, at least some of the info is here now)

tough ledge
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Many thanks!

spice prawn
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You are very welcome, and best of luck :)

boreal turret
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What is max fps @ 1080p on vga?

spice prawn
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infinite

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and no, that is not a joke

boreal turret
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Wait what

spare relic
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Is this some analog trickery

spice prawn
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nope

spare relic
boreal turret
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Why am I getting such bad fps then

spice prawn
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it has nothing to do with vga

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you are asking a question that you think you understand. but you dont.

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that is the problem.

spare relic
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Of course I don't :)

spice prawn
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the display standard doesnt limit the amount of FPS that is possible

boreal turret
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I have a 2060s and it's Minecraft... So what's going on?

spice prawn
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you are not reading what i am writing @boreal turret

boreal turret
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But I don't understand

spice prawn
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i know.

spare relic
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Is it a little like DDR standards, in that there are faster memory modules than the established standard?

spice prawn
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the question you wanted to ask is this: what is the max fps that a 2060 Super can deliver at 1080p in minecraft [edit: in minecraft]

boreal turret
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Ok

spice prawn
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and that is also a question i have no idea about the answer to

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because i dont play minecraft

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never have, most likely never will

boreal turret
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Try it

spice prawn
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fairly certain i have some paint that needs watching while it dries. That to me, seems like the more productive use of time.

rigid crag
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Lol

boreal turret
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Do you just have a thing for Minecraft or do you just not like video games

spice prawn
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i dont see a point in playing minecraft

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i dont like the look, nor does the gameplay loop seem interesting to me

spare relic
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I've never beat a game of Minecraft :p

boreal turret
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Dont like pvp?

rigid crag
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I dont like it either tbh

boreal turret
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Huh

spice prawn
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why would i play a game, that i dont like the majority of ?

boreal turret
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Idk not forcing you to play

spice prawn
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it is not exactly as if there is a lack of games to play

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but in general, i dont play all that many games nowadays

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doesnt really work with the amount of work i do

boreal turret
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Nowadays,?

spice prawn
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yes, when i went to school some 20+ years ago, it was different.

boreal turret
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Did you play galaga

spice prawn
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that was about 30 years ago

boreal turret
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I liked it (not thirty years ago tho)

spice prawn
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my last couple of years in school was spent playing a heck of a lot of quake 2

boreal turret
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I don't even know what that was

spice prawn
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an actually fun to play FFA fps

boreal turret
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Fortnite hater too?

spice prawn
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i dont see the point in Fortnite

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its a mix of a styles, none of which are actually that well done

boreal turret
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I just don't like it

spice prawn
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in a garish skin

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and i will happily admit, my wrist will scream at me if i try and play any FPS in the way i used to

rigid crag
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Thats unfortunate

spice prawn
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yes/no

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it is what it is

spare relic
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I've watched a few Fortnite videos, and the structure design is remarkably ordinary

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They look like buildings

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If Fortnite played freely like Minecraft I would be interested in it

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Building and such

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Occasionally I get a sliver of interest in Minecraft's basic survival goal of beating the ender dragon, but I've never gotten to that point

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In the end I play most games for creative designing and building aspects, as well as simulation

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That's all :)

boreal turret
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You can get some pretty cool screenshots in Minecraft with 4k ray tracing

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I saw one on reddit that looked insane

spare relic
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I want to upgrade from my GT 730 so I can play Minecraft with yummy shaders šŸ˜”

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I get 14 fps

boreal turret
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With or without shaders?

spare relic
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With

boreal turret
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I mean there good for screenshots and maybe normal survival but I use them in my hardcore world and they make it so much darker

spare relic
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Ah

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Yeah

last gale
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has anyone got a gpu backplate from v1tech if so can you send a pic?

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it would mean the world

solar warren
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Best GPU our there? Is it Titan RTX, Titan V, Quadro 8000, 2080TI? I am making up a dream build (if I could afford it) and I am wondering how to take it. Maybe 2080ti SLI is the way to go, but idk.

spare relic
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E-450 apu with Radeon HD 6320 graphics, and single channel memory

boreal turret
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Probably the quadro

spare relic
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Best GPU ever

reef briar
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is there a way to find out which display port is the main port on a gpu or does it matter

boreal turret
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Maybe check the manual?

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Or just play around

solar warren
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Who checks the manual?

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Exactly^

boreal turret
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Dweebs

reef briar
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evga card,no manual must be online maybe'

boreal turret
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Probably

spice prawn
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@reef briar it should not matter.

mystic kindle
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I need help with what GPUs will fit a pretty old computer my brother is using. Can anyone tell me what GPUs would fit? I’m pretty sure he’s using:

spare relic
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That case alone seems like it could fit a long and wide card

spice prawn
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physically, most cards will fit

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the problem/challenge is the power requirement

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so the safe bet is going with something that doesnt require a PCI-C power plug

boreal turret
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Or you could do what I did to my old pre built and replace both psu and gou

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Gpu

mystic kindle
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What GPUs will even hook up to that MOBO though? I don’t even know what it’s running. But he’ll need a new PSU and GPU just to make sure there’s enough power.

spare relic
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Well, nearly every GPU these days runs on PCIe x16 slots, not AGP or PCI

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That is

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Except for my All In Wonder Radeon 7500

mystic kindle
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So his best bet is to just replace the MOBO, GPU and PSU then?

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Bc that MOBO has to be severely outdated by now..

spare relic
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No, it has a PCIe x16 slot

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From what that above picture shows

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The blue horizontal thing

mystic kindle
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Right, just saw that. I’ll have to ask him if that’s what his looks like.

spare relic
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In that picture, there is a card plugged into the PCIe slot below it, and that would need to be moved

mystic kindle
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Thanks. I completely missed that.

spare relic
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What CPU/GPU does it have? What RAM type and speed?

mystic kindle
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I’d have to ask. I have no idea, I’m assuming whatever came stock in it. He did say he just bought more RAM tho. But I don’t know what type.

spare relic
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Lots of things to investigate

mystic kindle
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Well, I shall be back then. šŸ˜‰ thanks for the info so far. I appreciate it.

spare relic
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Yer welcome

spice prawn
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IF it is stock-ish

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its a sandy/ivy bridge intel

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aka, 2nd/3rd gen

spare relic
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Oo ic

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Just a little older than mine, when it comes to CPU

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From the picture the PSU looks like it was made by the same people as mine was

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It might be 280-300 watts

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Without power cables for higher wattage GPUs

mystic kindle
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Ahh..

lone pond
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gtx 1070 ti for 200 $ evga

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good deal ?

brisk flame
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yep

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used?

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on ebay?

dense flicker
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my 1070 is good

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it does vr, therefore i am good

spare relic
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Oh no

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The Toyotas are rising up

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Oh no they're questioning our motives now run run

vale flint
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I need a graphics card

lone pond
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1070 ti is like a rtx 2060 so i should be good plus gtx 1070 ti has 8gb or vram so

scenic storm
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what gpu do you guys recommend for a Ryzen 5 3600

rigid crag
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Well that all goes off budget. I could say a 2080ti but I'm certain that's not what you were asking

normal hawk
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What's your budget @scenic storm

scenic storm
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probably in the 400$ range

soft quarry
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For $400 if you want to go the Nvidia route you could get either a 2060 Super or a 2070

scenic storm
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right now i have an amd Radeon rx 580

normal hawk
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The 5700 XT is what I'd get if you stayed amd. But they have driver issues.

rigid crag
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Best performance: 5700xt
Best reliability and functionality: 2060 super

wicked hound
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2060S if you want to do recording / streaming. If not then 5700XT should be about as stable now

cyan vault
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20.4.1 fixed everything

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I have 0 problems

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And yeah, if streaming go 2060s

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I just streamed and while maintaining high fps it was kinda pixely at times

violet kite
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Okay so here we go.

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I recently bought a VR Headset and I'm looking to also buy a 2080 ti. Did some smart investing over the passed 8 or so months and got solid returns.

Anyone have any experience with what would be the best brand to buy? I'm thinking an EVGA or an Asus STRIX.

torpid garden
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I'd go with an EVGA because of their best-in-industry warranty reputation and wide range of cards from the "budget" lmaorisitaslol 2080 ti black edition, to the liquid nitrogen OC targeted K|ngp|n edition.

If you plan to play around with bios flashing or shunt modding, I'd go with an asus strix/matrix.

violet kite
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Any comments on Super vs TI?

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I hear some people saying that the Super is just a gimped TI.

torpid garden
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2080 super uses a different die - a TU 104 chip with cut down cores, ROPs etc. Yep it is - though it's still a very capable card.

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Here's a great thread comparing various cards, the "power limit" is the main spec to compare, ignore the base/boost clocks for the most part.

violet kite
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Goodness, you are knowledgeable on these cards! I've never bought this far into 'cutting edge' before. And may end up reinvesting my money and waiting till towards the end of the year to buy one.

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Do you think they'll go cheaper or stay at their current pricetag?

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And as another point of reference, I was very distantly interested in a Galax one, but shyed away from it because it's more of an "Apple" of the GPU market.

rigid crag
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Well they might drop in the end of the year slightly because nvidia is releasing their 3000 series lineup so even if they don't drop you'll be able to get more for your money then

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And ya forks knows a whole lot of stuff about everythingšŸ˜‰

violet kite
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I'm just looking to turn my system into a long-term PC. It's already most of the way there right now and is really well taken care of.

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A well-binned 9900k pairs very well with a 2080 ti.

rigid crag
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Definitely šŸ‘

violet kite
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Especially for 1440p VR.

rigid crag
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For sure you'll get that with a 2080 tišŸ˜‚

violet kite
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I already get it with my 2070. :L

rigid crag
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Lol yep

violet kite
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I'll keep my eyes peeled for pump and dump deals. I know they tend to do stuff kind of like that right before dropping new cards, but I usually was looking at mid to mid-upper tier cards at those times.

rigid crag
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Ok sounds good šŸ‘

violet kite
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I know it's also kind of a default nogo on CPUs.

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But are used GPUs something that is worth looking into, or should I just totally steer clear if I have the money?

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Same price as the EVGA card I'm looking at, has better clock speed and another fan.

torpid garden
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Haha, I just have a similar setup myself and I did a lot of that kind googling/research when choosing parts.

violet kite
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I almost jumped into a Threadripper build last year before the 2990 came out.

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NICE CASE

torpid garden
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Lol - it's a HP MSA-70 turned upside down with some modifications and an OpenBenchtable BC-1 on top.

violet kite
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I've always dug the industrial techno-trash feel of completely open PC builds. Bench boards are great.

torpid garden
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To answer your question - I don't think there'll be huge discounts on 2080 ti's until Ampere arrives on shelves - and even then -
Buy components when you need/want them - there will always been something faster/newer/RGB'er

dense flicker
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speaking of which forks, im at my moms house which means i can focus more on setting up the server

violet kite
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I'm really just thinking about springing on this 2080 Strix Ti on Newegg.

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Could even apply for financing and boost my credit score extra after paying it off in 12 months.

torpid garden
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Ya, I'd be down to work on that - I wanna reformat that rig to baremetal ubuntu and run everything on top through docker

violet kite
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Or return it if it has problems.

torpid garden
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On buying a 2080 ti strix - notice how there are (confusingly) 3? models of that card on the OCN thread I linked. You want to get one of the models with the higher power limit.

mighty island
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if you guys could trade a 1080ti for a 2080 would you?

fallow temple
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are there any major differences between the 1070ti and the 2070 super

mighty island
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20 series is more power efficient and has more features like rt/tensor/dlss

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1070ti better raw price performance for now

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i think

fallow temple
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if you were to buy one now what would you choose

mighty island
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well

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last week i would've said 1070ti

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but there's a lot of hype around dlss 2.0

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so it might be worth going for the 2070s

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i bought a 1080ti myself 3 months ago

granite juniper
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2070 super is the newer version of the 1070 ti, 1070 ti is around 2060 performance so its a lot weaker, but its a good deal if you can find it used for like 200-230

fair sorrel
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Any opinions on a GPU for playing.... WoW? I play at roughly 2k res (window on a 4k monitor) with a 1030 GT currently, and figure it might be worthwhile upgrading :). Not a hard core player, so something in the 5500XT - 1660 - 1650 Super is probably sufficient...

solar warren
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Is there a 2080ti type (EVGA, ASUS, etc.) that is known for being good or better than other 2080ti’s, when specifically looking at sli compatibility?

torpid garden
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Just buy the same card.

granite juniper
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^

solar warren
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Right, but there are dozens of 2080ti’s that have different MHz for boost and core clock and im not dumb enough to think that all 2080ti’s are built the same, lol.

granite juniper
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but triple slot cards might be a little choked/cant run one on top slot depending on the space between the pcie spots

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gigabyte windforce is pretty good, only $1100 rn and decent cooling

torpid garden
#

Are you in the market for a pair for 2080 ti's?

rigid crag
#

Who isn't šŸ˜‰

solar warren
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I do two main things: Gaming and heavy video/photo editing at high resolutions. I also don’t want much bottleneck between the Cpu and ti’s.

torpid garden
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Assuming one is planning a dual 2080 ti build - it's certainly doable to find a custom loop or adequate spacing solution to house them.

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One can always start with a single 2080 ti and then decide if they want the second.

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SLI/NVlink brings its own set up hiccups - but SLI isn't the joke/meme it used to be.

solar warren
#

I heard that it is a meme now, lol.

pallid kite
#

Im running a Ryzen 3600 with the stock cooler, can I overclock(even a little)the GPU without negatively effecting the cpu amd its temps?

torpid garden
#

yes

pallid kite
#

@torpid garden thank you

torn lynx
#

2080 super?

pallid kite
#

@torn lynx no sir, this is my first pc and going with a 2070

graceful basalt
#

hello can anyone help me please .I bought a GTX 1650 low profile card and 500w power supply to make sure the card will work and I HAVE 8 GB OF RAM after I installed the card in my computer it worked on the display before I installed all the drivers it worked but after my PC asked to restart it it worked but didn't get to the windows home screen it just stay black screen how can I fix that

prisma imp
#

hey i have a question about the 1660 and 1660 super

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my friend says the super is better then the ti

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i say the ti is better

brisk flame
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ti

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is better

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but for the price performance difference, i would suggest the super

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assuming your gpu budget is limited to however much the 1660ti costs

prisma imp
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he got the super

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one other thing

brisk flame
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good

prisma imp
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on userbenchmark it says "1660S (super)"

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is that the 1660 super or another card

brisk flame
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same card

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instead of writing out super, we like to abreviate to just s

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so 1660, 1660s, 1660ti

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its cleaner that way lol

prisma imp
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okay thank you

flat nymph
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@brisk flame theres functionally 0 difference

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actually

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in MOST modern cases the 1660s would perform better

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due to its faster memory

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it performs slightly worse in synthetics

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memory is the only difference between the 1660 non-super and the super

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and 1660 super vs 1660ti is a difference of memory speeds, slight difference in clcoks and a solid difference in the GPU itself

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1660ti is TU116-400

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1660s is TU116-300

wet temple
#

what would y'all choose- 2070 super or a 1080(non-ti)

heady elk
#

@wet temple I'd say 2070 Super

wet temple
#

pog

wicked hound
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2070S is 1080Ti perf

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So 1080 non Ti is def worse then 2070S

wet temple
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yeah but would you rather get some top-notch performance for cheaper or get rtx for more

brisk flame
#

depends on where you get the 1080, and how much you pay for it

wet temple
#

i mean true

wicked hound
#

"get RTX for more", but you're also getting not just RTX, but more rasterization perf too. The proper price/perf comparison would be 2060S/1080 because they are in the same rasterization perf category. Just that the 2060S has RTX and a new NVENC

brisk flame
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1080 does get better lows tho

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from all the tests ive seen the lows on the 2060S are either the same or way worse

wicked hound
#

was that not a driver issue from long ago?

brisk flame
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how long ago? the most recent test vid i can find on youtube is 3 months ago

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2 months ago*

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its a terrible vid, but shows them perfoming similarly, which i would expect

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but of course, from a price standpoint, a 1080ti vs a 2060s, the 1080ti is better at the same price, but it is used

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so it really just depends

native grove
#

Hows the rx5700 xt doing with bios and such still got bugs?

wicked hound
#

It's 1080 non Ti vs 2060S tho

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for this convo at least

brisk flame
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i kno, and i would say 1080 if you get a good deal and it comes from a trustworthy place

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2060s otherwise

vague vortex
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help me 1660 super or 2060

wet temple
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2060 imo

vague vortex
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i mean

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for a hard budget 1660 but i don't have a hard budget

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900 can fit that pretty well

flat nymph
#

900?

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you can get a 5700

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flash it

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and get some DAMN good performance

void haven
#

2080ti

vague vortex
#

what do we think about a 1660ti

ember imp
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@native grove the recent driver update fixed a lot of the issues people were having like the black screen crash

limber flax
#

what do we think about a 1660ti
@vague vortex
There is barely any performance difference between the TI and Super version so

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I'd go for a super if you were debating between the two

urban zenith
#

How much of a difference would you say the 1660 is from the 5600 XT?

vague vortex
#

I ended up choosing 1660s last night either way

limber flax
#

@urban zenith
the 5600XT does have higher performance than the 1660

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but the 1660S is probably a better deal than the 5600XT considering their performance isnt that far off

urban zenith
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Enough to justify the 50+?

limber flax
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id pick the 1660S if i wanted to save money

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also amd drivers are kinda bad still

urban zenith
#

Okay, I've settled on 1080p gaming, and I'm okay with 120FPS, doesn't have to be max.

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I'm honest just playing MMOs.

limber flax
#

oh nice

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1660S should be more than enough!

urban zenith
#

Would the 2060 be a big enough difference to take the plunge?

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Just thinking longevity.

limber flax
#

its a possible consideration

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hmm

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personally id still go with the 1660S since they both have the same amount of vram, but you're not gonna be using it for more graphics heavy uses in the future

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unless you are in which case the 2060 may be more worth your while

urban zenith
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I mean, not that I'm aware of. I do want to be able to play whatever I want when I do.

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But I'm just not up to date with PC gaming

limber flax
#

what games do you play other than mmos?

urban zenith
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Uh, I played a few indie games. Otherwise the only other games I have installed are Hellblade and Darksiders 3.

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Nothing major. No FPS or anything.

limber flax
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oh cool

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1660S should be a good choice then

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do ask others for input if you're still not sure

urban zenith
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No, that helps. I obviously see the number differences in the 5600XT/2060. But I don't know if I need bells and whistles, yknow?

limber flax
#

hah that's always the question

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do I need rgb with my graphics card?

urban zenith
#

Practical experience and knowledge is better

limber flax
#

the turing NVENC on the 1660S is a nice feature too

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if you ever think about streaming

urban zenith
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Maybe for friends

limber flax
#

that's nice

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give it some thought!

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if you have any more questions do ask

urban zenith
#

Thank you for the insight.

native grove
#

Thanks @ember imp

maiden sun
#

alright well i'm beefing up my cpu so now it's time for the gpu!

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what is a good gpu that costs 400$ that'll make a good difference from my 580

rigid crag
#

I mean new you can get a 2060s or a 5700x. If you go used you can probably snag a 2070s

maiden sun
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disregard that

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i'm gonna wait for the next generation of gpus

rigid crag
#

Aight

mystic shadow
#

which one is more worth it: rx5700 or rtx 2060?

royal copper
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5700

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Unless you really need nvenc, rt, or tensor cores

rigid crag
#

He can also flash it to 5700xt performance right? @royal copper

royal copper
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If he so chooses

rigid crag
#

Aight šŸ‘Œ

fair sorrel
#

Any point in getting either a GTX 2060 or 1660S when pairing it with a Pentium G5400? It will definitely bottleneck, but will still run. For my work machine, which I also use for WoW (which is the only game I play aside from Eve occasionally)...

lean warren
#

I just bought a previously owned Refurbished: ZOTAC GeForce GT 630 from NewEgg but it came without a driver. I asked cusotmer service but they gave me no useful ansdwer other than to ask here. Does anyone have a link to the driver?

fair sorrel
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The most recent driver for windows 10

mystic shadow
#

probably should just get a upgrade. what are you specs @fair sorrel ?

fair sorrel
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CPU: Pentium Gold G5400
GPU: GT 1030
PSU: Powerspec 550 watt
Motherboard: Gigabyte H310A 2.0
RAM: 16 Gb Crucial Ballistix Sport 2666 DDR4
SSD: Crucial P1 512 Gb NVME

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Monitor is an Acer CB281HK 4K monitor.

mystic shadow
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you should just get a motherboard and cpu upgrade along with it

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@fair sorrel

fair sorrel
#

So, 9400KF/3600 roughly speaking?

mystic shadow
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yeah

fair sorrel
#

Cool, thanks!

flat nymph
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ehh

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in gaming

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performance wize

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3600 utterly stomps

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the 9400kf

mystic shadow
#

yes

hazy quest
#

Hey guys, i got a bit of an issue with my Rx5700xt, its not major but its a bit annoying, every now and then the screen goes black for like a few seconds, its not long but its super annoying and makes me lose or die in game sometimes. I tried changing the DP cable and tried every single DP port on my graphics card. Quick Note if it changes anything, I used a NZXT kraken G12 to water cool it with an AIO, also my Radeon software is up to date. Any Suggestions??

tame totem
#

does anyone know how to solve a B2 error? i just got a RTX 2060S

indigo valve
#

would 2070 super do decent on 1440p via borderland 3?

ember imp
#

Yea

loud sphinx
#

why wont my asus rog strix slot into my gigabyte aorus elite board? am i doing something wrong

boreal turret
#

Probably

royal copper
#

There is a clip on the end of the slot, make sure it is pressed down

loud sphinx
#

The clip was pressed down yet it still wouldn't slot in. And I dont want to apply to much pressure. Dont wanna break it

rigid crag
#

Might help if you send a picture @loud sphinx

spice prawn
#

@loud sphinx a couple of things to remember:
The card slots in at a 90 degree angle to the mainboard.
Have you checked that you have taken out the correct back plate covers?

acoustic ginkgo
#

Did you make sure you took the cover off the part of the graphics card that goes into the slot?

mystic shadow
#

@hazy quest maybe it’s a power problem? I have those problems before, but worse. Like the computer turning completely black.

hazy quest
#

@mystic shadow thanks for the suggestion, I actually did try that, I had a 600w evga bronze psu, I ended up swapping it for a Corsair 750w, also bronze rated, I also went onto the power settings and set the power consumption for high performance, I hoped that would fix it but unfortunately it's still the same issue, I also went into the driver and added +50% power so it can use all the power it needs, but all the same story sadly. It especially sucks with the new game Valorent, I was lucky enough to get into the beta, and it's really difficult sometimes to overcome that, because you have to be extremely cautious and aware in that game, and I just go blind for like 5 seconds and that's gg lol

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Again, I really appreciate your suggestions

mystic shadow
#

Maybe not just that, like a surge?

hazy quest
#

Do you mean like its using too much power? That could actually be it, theres a bunch of video guides, none that I have watch but have seen floating around to Overclock and Undervolt the Rx5700xt

mystic shadow
#

Yeah

hazy quest
#

Tru, I'll look into that

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I haven't actually thought on it before, thanks!

mystic shadow
#

Once I tried to overclock my gpu, the computer stopped working until I uninstalled the gpu and uninstalled the graphics drivers

hazy quest
#

Woah, I've never experienced that, I did notice however, and maybe its cuz of the new drivers but the rx5700xt is somewhat unresponsive to Msi Afterburner, like I change a setting, and it forces another setting to change aswell, my rx580 never had that issue

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Very interesting

mystic shadow
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Just use the afterburner to turn the clocks down, maybe

hazy quest
#

I will try, I will also try just undervolting it, to see if that's the main issue

mystic shadow
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And if that’s not possible, uninstall the afterburner and click don’t keep settings, then reinstall it

hazy quest
#

But what I think is happening with msi afterburner, is because with the new Adrenaline driver for amd gpus, you can overclock directly through the driver, but it has a strict limit, and I think that limit blocks afterburner from exceeding those limits, but who knows

mystic shadow
#

Then try not overclocking it

hazy quest
#

Tru, could be

violet forge
#

does anyone use the Msi 1660ti and is it any good

white mulch
#

i mean yeah its a solid card

rugged zenith
#

might buy the 2060 for sale near me. he wants $250 obo

mellow kiln
#

thats pretty good

white mulch
#

yeah thats nit a bad deal

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not*

wind dagger
#

upgrading from an rx580, any ideas as to what i should get? cpu is r5 2600 and psu wattage is 550, curious on opinions before i buy

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ty if you suggest anything

rigid crag
#

@wind dagger if you can afford it I would get a 2060

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Whats your budget

wind dagger
#

lemme do the math brb

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~300 usd

rigid crag
#

So ya a 2060 lines right up

rugged zenith
#

so $250 isnt a bad deal for a 2060?

oblique idol
#

@violet forge I had a msi 1660ti before upgrading to my rtx 2070 super, and the 1660ti is a great budget card and outperforms the 1660 super even though it may cost more retail

lone pond
#

@wind dagger consider flashing a 5700 up to a 5700xt too.

soft quarry
#

@rugged zenith no, they usually go for $300+ (not including tax) so it's a good deal

rugged zenith
#

that’s wack

flat nymph
#

@oblique idol no, it does not outperform the 1660 super

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at all

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the increased memory bandwidth helps the 1660 super to omuch

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to the point where its gaster than the 1660ti

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@wind dagger for 300 you get a 5700 and flash it, for 220-240 range you either get a 1660 super or you get a used vega 56

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300 can also get you a 1080 but I would still go with the flashed 5700

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2060 really only makes sense in the case where you plan on streaming or have a super weak PSU

flat nymph
#

1660ti should not be bought new

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its just objectively a horrible value

wind dagger
#

a lot is rn

dreamy dragonBOT
#
JtJ#4203 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

boreal turret
#

!

flat nymph
#

the 5700 performs as good as a 2060 super, soooo

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and its only a bit more

#

as for the 1660ti

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no

#

just no

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the answer is 1660 super

wind dagger
#

i was looking at the super too

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ive decided its either ti or super

flat nymph
#

not the ti....

wind dagger
#

so super then?

flat nymph
#

yeah pretty much

rigid crag
#

Not the ti lol pls no

wicked hound
#

Unless used or refurbished with pricing at the super
then never Ti

flat nymph
#

these are some of the better models

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pretty much but

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even then

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as textures get bigger with newer games

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we're gonna see the super start to do better

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as it has an increased memory bandwidth

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so even same price I'd get the super

wicked hound
#

Will textures get higher res tho? I feel like that really isnt the way to go for realism as textures seem high enough.

flat nymph
#

parralax and higher poly can only go so far

wind dagger
#

res 1080 if you're curious

flat nymph
#

teture increases are inevitable

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not to mention

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it's much easier to increase texture sizes

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than to do more geometry work

#

as a game developper

rigid crag
#

True

wicked hound
#

to an extent

vital zephyr
#

how much does flashing a 5700(xt?) boost perf?

graceful escarp
#

Mr.banana maybe go with a 1650 super

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@short wolf yeas thats a good deal

graceful basalt
#

how can I install the graphics card drivers with out my computer turning off???

hexed forge
#

You can try booting into safe mode

mystic shadow
#

What’s the best (cheap and good) rx5700 xt?

summer igloo
#

if your feel comfortable with some bios flashing

#

the cheapest 5700xt is actually just a 5700

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now it may not work

#

but a bunch of people have been pulling it off with great success

stuck siren
#

I recently downloaded blur and I tried to play it. It didnt run well and skipped a lot. I have a radeon rx 590 and figure that its enough to actually run the game. I looked at task manager and saw that "Video Incode" was running at 99% sitting at the homescreen. I tried Overclocking a tad but nothing seemd to work. Not sure where to go. Any ideas?

quick crater
#

best graphics card for 1080p 144hz?

rigid crag
#

Budget?

quick crater
#

200 give or take

#

tryna get a parts list for a friend

rigid crag
#

Well your not going to get a "best" card in that range. Your just about in 1660 super range tho. Probably your best bet

quick crater
#

kk

hollow pumice
#

is it worth upgrading my rtx 2060 phoenix?

#

to like a 2070 or 2080/ti?

#

im not sure if spending that type of money is justifiable..feels like an upgrade like that would just be purely aesthetic

spice prawn
#

if you dont need the performance, it would be useless

hollow pumice
#

What type of performance boost would I get from a 2060 -> 2070

#

I heard like a 15% if not 10% increase, but for double the pricew

spice prawn
#

well, technically the 2070 doesn't exist anymore

#

2070 Super has replaced it at the same price

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so, you can have a look here

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also, i dont know where you found the "for double the price" part, but that is not true, unless you go out of your way to find the most expensive 2070 Super you can

wicked hound
stuck siren
#

What exactly is "video encode" and is there any way to decrease the toll it is taking on my GPU?

mystic shadow
#

Whats a good rx 5700 xt? Im thinking of sappire pulse or whatever its called

#

pls ping me

stuck siren
#

I recently downloaded blur and I tried to play it. It didnt run well and skipped a lot. I have a radeon rx 590 and figure that its enough to actually run the game. I looked at task manager and saw that "Video Incode" was running at 99% sitting at the homescreen. I tried Overclocking a tad but nothing seemd to work. Not sure where to go. Any ideas?
I just tried to hop on to siege and the game just closed out with no warning. similar issue
I also had the lowest graphics possible

stuck siren
#

Also I have gone into a Thunt and it works fine

mighty island
rigid crag
#

Not really

mighty island
#

@mystic shadow I hear that the nitro+ is the best 5700xt

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I don't own one myself just what I've heard from other people

ember imp
#

@mystic shadow the pulse is the best budget/small card. The Powercolor red devil and sapphire nitro+ are some of the best 5700xt

pulsar saffron
#

i have been noticing frame drop on my 2060, know any remedy's?

open wedge
#

I found a AMD Radeon RX 5500 XT for $190 (US). Is this a good deal?

#

i'm upgrading from a gtx 1050ti

spice prawn
#

@open wedge 4 gig or 8 gig version?

open wedge
#

8gb

spice prawn
#

the msrp for that one is 199

spice prawn
open wedge
#

Would a 580 8gb be a better choice?

#

I'm playing games like my summer car and beamng

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mostly

#

also forza horizon 4

spice prawn
#

i honestly dont know

open wedge
#

lol I'm trying to upgrade cause my 1050ti is always pinned at %100

#

poor guy

#

idk if I want to go amd or nvidia cause nvidia looks better but is way more expensive

spare relic
#

I have a GT 730 with 384 cores

#

I want to go to a 1650 Super

#

they're about 160 USD

open wedge
#

that's a good choice.

loud sphinx
#

Are the lights on the asus rog strix 2080 controllable or are they permanently red?

royal copper
#

should be rgb I think

#

probably need the aura sync software or something

hollow pumice
#

is the gigabyte 2070 super oc any good?

rigid crag
#

Yep

#

Better than stock

acoustic ginkgo
#

Huh. The 1660 Super I had on my wishlist went out of stock

crimson ridge
#

any good sales out there in the 300 to 400 range

prime jay
#

Would it be a bad idea to repaste my gpu on my MSI Gaming X trio 2080 Ti? It's my 3rd rma card and have no idea what kinda job they did

rigid crag
#

If you know what your doing then what's the harm šŸ‘

royal copper
#

3rd rma?!

merry yew
#

guys should i get the gtx 1660 s over the rx 580 for 80 euros more in order to get 20 fps more,better cooling,50 watts less and better drivers and less bottleneck cause i will get the r5 2600 and its a 30% bottleneck with the rx 580 but with 1660s its 0,5%

prime jay
#

Well excuse me third card second RMA

mental plinth
#

i need help ppl

#

to keep it short as possible

#

i am building my first PC. I have decided on using the r5 3600 so now just need to decide on GPU. I am stuck between getting a lower/mid tier card like a 1660 super or 5600xt and getting a new card once the next generation releases OR getting something more potent like 5700xt, 2060 super, 2070 and riding that card out for a few years.... anyone have any guidance ?

#

i will mostly play what i already play on PS4 - Madden, CoD, Battlefield, GTA, etc but also want to be able to play demanding titles like tomb raider on good graphics if i choose to

vital frigate
#

@mental plinth well what’s ur budget? For a GPU

mental plinth
#

im trying to stay under 1100 for entire build

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but less the better

#

so i guess like 450 or less would be good 360ish or less would be great

tired swan
#

@mental plinth kinda late but if you want to save some money, you could get a 5700 and flash the bios to get similar to 5700xt performance, if not you could just get a 5700xt

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Although if you plan to stream or record games, i would get an nvidia gpu

rigid crag
#

@tired swan ya I said that already lol

tired swan
#

oh sorry

rigid crag
#

Oh my bad it was in a different channel.
You didn't know lol

#

Don't apologize

tired swan
#

oh ok, i was wondering where i had missed it

rigid crag
#

Ya šŸ˜‚

tired swan
#

@lone pond oh god uses sli, definately not made in 2020

mental plinth
#

guys guys its ok

#

im open to everyone's suggestions šŸ™‚

brisk flame
#

the card in that terrible song is the 6800, so its like 15 years old

paper anchor
#

Imagine having integrated like me

tired swan
#

imagine

spare relic
#

I have integrated

#

I also have discrete NYEHE

#

That is

#

Discrete which is marginally better than integrated

tired swan
#

yikes

#

i mean whatever works right?

spare relic
#

Lol

#

I can play games which don't support integrated love_it

crude ore
#

Need some help if anyone is willing

rigid crag
#

Your more likely to get help if you state your problem, rather than just saying you need help

wicked hound
rigid crag
#

Ya lol

#

I love that someone bought a domain for that lol

crude ore
#

I installed my new 2060 super strix after ddu old drivers and now my pc won't boot but everything is lit up

#

I remember this same thing happened years back when I got the 1070

rigid crag
#

Try resetting the cmos

fervent quail
#

Hello, I was hoping for some direction... I need to order a new graphics card for my Apple tower. Right now I have an ATI Radeon HD 5770 -1024MB. I have an Intel Xeon processor. 3.46 GHz 6-core. What graphics cards can I use with this processor and operating system?

wet temple
livid heron
#

I have a question...

#

Should I upgrade to the RX 5700 or an rtx 2060 super or 2070? I have a Ryzen 5 2600x

rigid crag
#

Are you planning on streaming?

wet temple
#

^

livid heron
#

Sorry for the late response. Probably not but i play vr a lot. Im upgrading from an rx580 8gb

quasi flicker
#

Just ordered a Gigabyte 2070 Super WindForce yesterday

mental plinth
#

for how much

#

@quasi flicker

quasi flicker
#

A little over $525 after tax

mental plinth
#

nice

quasi flicker
#

Getting it on Friday

acoustic ginkgo
#

And crap. The 1660 Super I was going to get is out of stock again

quasi flicker
#

Oof

rigid crag
#

@livid heron if your not streaming the 5700 xt will give you the best performance for your money. Costs the same as a 2060 super but performs like a 2070 super

livid heron
#

Okay thanks! Will it pair well with my cpu?

rigid crag
#

Yessir

twin crown
#

Thoughts on Gtx 1650 (non super)

granite juniper
#

dont get it

#

the super is the same price, and the 1650 is basically a failure of a card unless you dont have a 6/8 pin cable on your psu

tired swan
#

@twin crown if the prices are all weird where you live and the super is a lot more expensive, see if the rx 570 or 580 is available for a decent price

fervent shore
#

Is the difference negligible of a rx 580 to an rx 590?

mellow kiln
#

Probably, it's like 10%

north escarp
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can someone help me overclock my 1050 TI?

mellow kiln
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Raise the power limit in afterburner

north escarp
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Wont let me, im using a HP pavilion gaming laptop

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@mellow kiln

mellow kiln
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You probably shouldn't overclock the GPU on a laptop @north escarp

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You'll either hit power or temp limits (probably power)

royal copper
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and yeah a laptop gpu is not going to have much headroom for overclocking

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some laptops and such even lock the settings like voltage, clock speed, etc.

north escarp
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Question guys, I got a hp pavilion gaming laptop today. I was trying to play my game(Lotto Lord of the rings online fairly low demand) and I had it on Max and it was jumping from 30-60 everyother second with the GPU at ~20% and the CPU around the same. How do I up the usage?

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Yeah ran into that, the voltage and fans and the one other thing we're locked from me @royal copper

soft brook
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Anyone know what’s a good $200 card for a Micro ATX build

pure mortar
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The exact card depends on the case. The case specs will list maximum GPU dimensions.

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PSU would be good to know too.

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Going to blindly suggest a used GTX 1070 or a RX 590/5500 XT 1650 Super though. ĀÆ_(惄)_/ĀÆ

analog slate
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is $170 for a 1070 good

storm pumice
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I have a combo question, I have AMD Ryzen 3 1200 Quad-core Processor, 3100 Mhz. on a AB350-Gaming 3-CF. What I need to know is, will the new GTX/RTX 2000 series video cards load and run on that combo?

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Its a full tower case and mobo

pure mortar
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Nothing about that combo would make games not run, Jay.

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Chris, generally speaking, yeah. I usually check ebay (sold listings) for prices but try to buy used gear off of computer forums I trust (TPU or HardForums). Anywhere that requires HeatWare links.

wicked hound
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@storm pumice It'd work, however on general anything above 1060/1650S perf will gain deminishing returns due to CPU not being good enough

wicked hound
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@analog slate decent deal

alpine sphinx
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How does the Radeon RX 5700 XT perform? What NVIDIA card does it compare to?

tired wind
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somewhere in between RTX2060 Super and RTX2070 Super

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most like closer to RTX 2070

lone pond
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which Graphics card is better

royal copper
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the 5500xt has a little higher fps in games but the 570 has double the vram

urban zenith
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Question in relation to the RTX cards, I see some with Super, Ti, SC, XC, Gaming tacked on. Is there a resource or easy explanation to whats really different between them?

spice prawn
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there are only 3 versions of each @urban zenith

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plain, super, TI

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the rest are manufacturer specific marketing BS

urban zenith
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Hokay.

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So buying the 2060 Super XC Gaming doesn't really mean a ton?

spice prawn
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at the chip level, no

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it just means you are getting a 2060 Super chip

royal copper
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2060 super and 2060 super xc has very little performance diff

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not worth extra money

spice prawn
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at the card level, the difference is how the card looks (basically)

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and how much the manufacturer can convince the customer that words are worth

urban zenith
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Oh, I got it based on the deal. Not so much trying to get the best. I just want to interpret what I purchased now, lol.

spice prawn
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now, just to make it a bit more confusing

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originally there was the 2060/2070/2080

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then the 2070 got replaced by the 2060super

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and the 2080 got replaced by the 2070super

royal copper
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they basically added super to the end of all the cards, but they are better

spice prawn
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and now we are in the situation where the 2070 and 2080 are slowly disappearing from retailers

urban zenith
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So the Super is noticeably better than normal variant.

royal copper
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yes

urban zenith
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And Ti is one step above that?

spice prawn
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when compared to the number variant? yes

royal copper
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I have the normal 2070 peepoSadSip

spice prawn
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as in, a 2070 super is better than the 2070

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but, depending on metrics, not better than the 2080 that is replaces

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the TI cards are techically above the super

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(also, in case all of this is confusing as all heck, dont worry. it is knowledge that you cannot use for anything)

urban zenith
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No, it's giving me the hierarchy more or less.

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Yes, all the added nomenclature on the card makes it sound awesome.. but deep down inside I have a 2060 Super

spice prawn
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aye

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and if knowing you have the XC with sparkles model, makes you feel better? good for you

urban zenith
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Nah. I just liked the deal. Haha

spice prawn
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:)

urban zenith
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And my rig doesn't have any fancy rgb or design.

grave wave
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just go get a AORUS GeForce RTX 2080 Ti comes with rgb lol

royal copper
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rtx titan or nothing

grave wave
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eh 2080 ti and the titan are pretty similar in performance but very different in price lol

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NVIDIA QUADRO RTX 8000 or nothin

pseudo tangle
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so if im looking to get a mid range priced gpu id say anywhere from 300-600 and i want it to run high fps with pretty good graphics does anyone have suggestions that are worth my time/money?

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$300-$600 is what I mean, I would be willing to go over if it was one that would last me a good while

royal copper
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a 2070 super would fit in that budget

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the fps on high settings depends on the game but I think it could do a decent job at getting around 144fps in most games at high

pseudo tangle
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ok ill look into it, thanks much!

arctic phoenix
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2060 super or flash 5700 to XT?

dense flicker
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flash to 5700xt is not a good idea

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you might end up bricking the card

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also AMD cards have a lot of issues

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id go with 2060 super

arctic phoenix
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thank you

dense flicker
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yep

visual scroll
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Can someone help me with a question about graphics card vs power supply?

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I have a pc i built back in 2015. 4 screen trade desk. R7 260x is in there now. I want to upgrade the card to an AMD 5700 or 5700xt but unsure if I need to then buy another power supply. My current one is a 550w. Saw an MSI 5700 on newegg that said suggested 750w but after using the power supply calculator everything came out to only 416w. Not sure if its a risk or not to just get a 5700 / 5700 xt without changing power supply

gilded dove
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@visual scroll i just got a 5700 xt today and it doenst use that much, i have a 650w and it runs fine

visual scroll
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Awesome thanks! I was a bit bummed when I saw the system requirements for 750w on the msi. Which card did you get @gilded dove

gilded dove
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Asus ROG Strix 5700 XT

visual scroll
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Oh nice. Cool thanks again

mellow kiln
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rtx 2060 good gpu for i7 4770? or should i just get a 1070 (currently have rx480 and play at 1080p)

mystic shadow
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If you care about ray tracing, go for the rtx 2060. Feel like a bottleneck though.

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probably upgrade your gpu @mellow kiln

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just get the rtx, overall better bench

wicked hound
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no

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RTX on a 2060 sucks

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Get it for CUDA or Nvenc

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if not, then 5700

wind nymph
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I need an honest opinion

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ASUS rog strix 2080 Super vs MSI trio 2080ti , in Canada with tax it’s roughly a 750$ difference

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I’ve gotten everything gpu is my last part

wicked hound
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both are overpriced

wind nymph
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I plan on playing medium to high settings while simultaneously streaming and recording

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Is it worth to spend the extra money on that 2080ti? I can afford it just don’t know how big of a frame difference it’ll be

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All parts are overpriced nowadays what can we do @wicked hound

wicked hound
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Just get the cheapest brand with a decent cooler?

spice prawn
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there is overpriced, and then there is just setting fire to money levels of overpriced

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Hei is not referring to the first type

wicked hound
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tho, to be fair, while overpriced those specific AIB cards are a bit lower priced then what I first thought. But still, Smth like Gigabyte Windforce is good enough and is cheapest okay cooler I could find

proper beacon
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is the gigabyte rtx 2070 for $370 worth it?

wind nymph
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The ones I sent are high performers currently basically priced only a few dollars more then cheap versions

wind nymph
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That’s 30$ cheaper would rather have the triple fan Asus tho

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I’d really just like advice on first message

uncut relic
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Quick question for yall..
So I currently have a Ryzen 7 2700 paired up with a rx570 for my current setup
I really want to upgrade and switch to team green

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Any recommendations?

wicked hound
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depends on budget and use case. If streaming / recording then you have a reason for Nvidia. If not then go with whatever gives best rasterization perf for the money; which is sometimes AMD

uncut relic
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Well I'm mainly use it for gaming and not really streaming but I wanted the ray tracing feature for some of the games I play

wicked hound
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RTX is a gimmick and will stay a gimmick for many years to come. It has a long way to grow before it should be actually recommended. Looks are minimally improved, often with surfaces being horribly done (ex: Wooden doors becoming basically mirrors), for a major perf decrease

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Even when future games come out, current gen RTX will be too weak to be properly used

dreamy laurel
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Uh no

normal hawk
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DLSS 2.0 is nice as well on the RTX cards

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Js

fair sorrel
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I don't know about a gimmick, but we definitely won't see it used as heavily until we get hardware that has better performance. Anything to date is little more than proof of concept.

normal hawk
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I dunno. Minecraft rtx is peak performance

fair sorrel
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Its passible performance only because of upscaling

quartz hound
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Thoughts on 2080S v 2080Ti?

dense flicker
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not much difference, id get 2080s

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since its a fair bit cheaper

royal copper
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it's an interesting feature and something new for the people at nvidia and amd to work on

abstract bluff
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just picked up the AMD rx 5700 xt

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hope it goes well

lone pond
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For graphics cards which is better 8gb memory but 1400 clock speeds or 6gb with 1600 clock speeds?

dense flicker
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what are the cards you are looking at?

dense flicker
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the 5700xt is quite a bit more powerful, however AMD has a lot of driver issues.

lone pond
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Couldn't find the specific 5700XT

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Still is better memory better then more clock speeds?

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Or should I get one with higher clock speeds?

dense flicker
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a CPU i have from 10 years ago goes to 3ghz, but that does in no way make it better than a current gen CPU

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same goes for GPUs

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(im pretty sure brainlet)

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dont worry about the vram and clock speeds as much, look up videos on performance in games you care about

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so you can see the types of FPS youd be gettings

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thats whats most important

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or, if the use is not for gaming, look up benchmarks for software you use

lone pond
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Ahh ok

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Thanks

dense flicker
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yep

wicked hound
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Memory bandwidth and architecture still matter when looking at video memory performance. Even then, average consumer wouldn't see much of a difference in memory perf given how large the perf difference of the GPU die is

abstract bluff
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@dense flicker I just ordered the amd rx 5700 xt, what kind of problems did the driver have?

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I heard mixed reviews

dense flicker
wind nymph
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Hey zack!

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Man am I glad you’re on right nowšŸ˜‚ @dense flicker

dense flicker
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lol why?

wind nymph
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Is there any difference? Or is that good for literally 150$ less with tax

ember imp
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Latest 5700xt driver fixed a lot of the issues people were having

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I haven’t black screened a single time with the new drivers

dense flicker
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check their boost clocks

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but tbh its a 2080ti, its gonna be a powerful card anyways

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not sure how that price translates into USD, but it sounds cheaper than the other 2080tis youve found sooooo

wind nymph
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Think 1391 usd vs 1285

dense flicker
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seems about on par with other 2080ti prices here

wind nymph
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I was set on msi gaming x trio

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But seeing the gigabyte one slightly cheaper has me wondering

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Trying to justify spending 150$ extra for the same card for maybe a 2-3 frame boost or maybe just better temps

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Well also the rgb

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Gigabyte is kinda just black but I think I should be good with how many fans I’m adding slowlyšŸ˜‚

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Rgb fans*

rigid crag
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What the heck is wrong with those prices

lament stag
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Exactly

rigid crag
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I believe that they are the same but I have no idea whatsoever about the price

lament stag
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Alright lol thanksšŸ˜‚

rigid crag
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ĀÆ\_(惄)_/ĀÆ

limpid jacinth
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Need a good video card on a relative budget. $200-300 cap. GDDR6 so expensive

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(╯°▔°)╯︵ ┻━┻

tired swan
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@limpid jacinth I would get a 5700 and flash the bios if you dont mind doing that

limpid jacinth
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I was looking at the ASRock 5700, still out of price range without justification to my wife xD just barely. What would flashing bios do in benefit? Not super familiar

rigid crag
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It would almost reach a 5700xt performance

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There are risks involved tho so keep that in mind

abstract bluff
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rx 5700 xt is on sale for $340 rn

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on dell

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idk if the deal is still going on

twin crown
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Should I get rx 580 8gb?

abstract bluff
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i have one its very nice

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but

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it depends on your preference

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@twin crown its for mid tier gaming but you shouldnt have a problem

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i upgraded to the rx 5700 xt but i enjoyed my rx 580

wicked hound
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1650S is a better deal the 580. Tho, realistically 570 is the best deal. Barely any worse then either of which, esp after an OC, for $110 as opposed to $160 - $180

zenith kraken
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Anyone here got a second to help with troubleshooting?

uncut relic
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Deal or no deal?

wicked hound
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no, KO has poor cooling and should only be gotten when using it for the specific workloads that use the modded 2080 GPU die

mellow kiln
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Video rendering would benefit right?

torpid garden
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Not really, what kind of rendering?

mellow kiln
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Davinci resolve, currently videos render in about real time

wicked hound
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The GPU die is fine, but memory and VRMs have really thick thermal pads

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considering for $320 you can get a fair bit better in terms of cooling, you might as well unless you need the "quadro" aspect of the 2060 KO

lone pond
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My dad has wanted to build a pc for a while(like years) but never had the chance to and I want to help him but I need the right gpu because I want him to have the very best he can for his money

lament stag
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budget?

granite juniper
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yea what budget/what you using it for

lone pond
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I have no idea yet we haven’t gotten that far and he wants to game likely at 4K if possible

mystic shadow
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I suggest 1440p gaming, as that’s what a lot of monitor’s at

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If you want 4K, look for low FPS

rugged meadow
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my budget is ~$1000-1100 and i already started ordering the parts but the not gc yet, is the 2060 super a good choice?

brisk flame
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sure

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i assume you already know what else you plan on buying, right?

unborn spire
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Yes you might even be able to get a 2070

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Want me to make you a list?

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@rugged meadow

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Is that with kb and m or nah

rugged meadow
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thats what i have as of now

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same thing but i marked the cpu as purchases

unborn spire
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You can get a cheaper rgb ram such as t force for 80 and a cheaper nvme same storage for 30 less

rugged meadow
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d

unborn spire
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So you have some room for it as well

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That money could be used for the 2070

brisk flame
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well, you have made good purchases so far

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yeah, ram is overpriced lmao

unborn spire
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I agree you did really well

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Just overpriced several things

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You don’t need 2 144hz monitors

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U just need one for gaming the other is mostly to monitor discord and stuff

rugged meadow
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i wasn’t really worried about the rgb part of the ram but naed gave me a list of ram that was compatible and i just matched the part numbers and that’s why i have that

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i don’t actually plan on getting two of those monitors

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they’re kinda placeholders, i just know i want two monitors

unborn spire
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Ok cool cool

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Then you can just get 3600 MHz ram for 85 btw

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And all ram should be compatable with the board

brisk flame
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thats not a bad monitor for the price tho

unborn spire
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Sassy take over I trust you I gotta go

brisk flame
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so you could get one of those

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kk

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heres with replaced ram and ssd

brisk flame
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yeah those

rugged meadow
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the reason i went with the 970 evo was because one of my buddies told me you want like name brand for your boot drive because it’s more reliable or something

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i didn’t really understand it but i figured he knew what he was talking about

brisk flame
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crucial is basically name brand

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its really about who makes the dies, not the pcb

ember sparrow
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should i get a rtx 2070 super or rx 5700 xt

unborn spire
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5700 Xr

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Xt

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Does better like everything and does

ember sparrow
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i mean

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im prob not going to use rtx

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and the drivers are more stable

unborn spire
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Yep

ember sparrow
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but is it actually faster

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like clock speeds

unborn spire
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I mean it’s really up to you they are both great just what you perder they perform on Pat to one another if I’m not mistaking

rugged meadow
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and i would like a fully blacked out ssd because nearly everything else is black so i had this originally before the evo

ember sparrow
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i have a amd r7 370

unborn spire
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I would get the 2070 super just to be safe because 5700 xt has a few minor issues

ember sparrow
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rn

unborn spire
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What’s your cpu

brisk flame
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yeah, that one is good too @rugged meadow

ember sparrow
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i5 3470

unborn spire
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Oh goodness you have a bottleneck

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Will*

ember sparrow
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i have a r7 370 and i5 3470

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how is it a bottle neck

proven terrace
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Guys is the 5700 xt raw 2 or sapphire better

lone pond
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I actually might save up longer and goto a 2070

brisk flame
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well, for an immediate perf increase, getting a 5700xt is fine, but another system upgrade would be suitable down the road

lone pond
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But me broke I don’t think that’s happening

proven terrace
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Get the 5700 xt

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Trust me