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hydrochloric acid
Ok I'll update when I'm done
Depends on the paint as well paint thickness. Thin paint job with mosy paint types won't insulate it much. However a thick job with some type of paint can cause more insulation then desired
Is hydrochloric acid too thicc?
1660ti and 1660 super is their a big difference?
FR tho would white hydrodip work for GPU and aio
Can't hydrodip the fins afaik. So can do GPU shroud, but that's it
Yeah I was thinking of painting shroud then getting a custom backplate, but the fans might look a little odd. Is there a easy way to paint the fans?
idk
@plucky gyro not really
Few FPS difference
Super is better value
Cost much less with similar performance to the TI
you can spray paint fans if careful
Wait what am I saying I meant Plasti dip š¤¦āāļø
I wouldn't use plastidip on a gpu or aio
hydrodip?
dont hyprodip/plasti dip the fans
So if I have a G-Synch Monitor from 2018 and an AMD GPU, is there no way I will get more than 60hz refresh rate out of monitor?
Because I have to be using G-Sync to enjoy the refresh rate over 60hz, am I right about that?
G-sync will drop the monitor's actual refresh rate to <60 hz when your gameplay drops below 60hz.
Guide to everything g-sync.
https://blurbusters.com/gsync/gsync101-input-lag-tests-and-settings/
Anyone know if it's worth saving up around $100 more to go from buying a 2060s to a 2070s?
Ok, thanks for the information. I'm still not sure if it's possible for me to push past 60 fps. I have a Dell Alienware AW3418DW 34" and an AMD RX Vega 64. It is a little disappointing at the moment that I dont get that smooth framerate that I notice my friends with matched gpus and monitors have.
i have a gtx 1060 3gb im looking for a upgrade for cheap i was thinking a gtx 1660s or a rtx 2060 ko
Ok šļø
2060 KO should really only be bought for workstation stuff. It's cooling is garbage compared to other AIB cards at that price
Mixed bag. Also depends on AIB too. For example Sapphire Pulse 5700(XT) had video port issues, I think it was anything but HDMI would be glitchy with black screens and such (so goodbye freesync cuz no DP). Idk if that's been fixed now. General AMD drivers I havent heard issues of for a bit tho
nice nice
any deals on the 580 RX 8GB around?
ĀÆ_(ć)_/ĀÆ
I gotta 480 8gb
AMD drivers are hit or miss
Some people havenāt had any issues with them
Some people have had to return the card with how many issues they had
Personally I havenāt had that many issues
A couple of black screen crashes here and there but nothing major
Although I canāt use any gpu monitoring software like msi afterburner while Iām using DisplayPort or my screen with flicker
So that kind of sucks
But other than that drivers are fine for me
Just realized that convo was like 10 hours ago
I currently have an AMD card and even though I'm getting an Nvidia card I haven't had many problems with the AMD drivers besides a few issues that were easy to fix
so im playing a game i play a lot and just now my graphics card is going insane with usage surges and the fan speed is really high and its never had this problem before
well you want to fully utilize your gpu when playing games
you can always check task manager to see if there are any background processes taking up the gpu
...give me the sequence calculations... NOW!
also setting a custom fan curve with afterburner or something might help with the fan speed
Anyone know if nvidia is ever going to restock this card?
lmao cooling system: fan
lmao
that's pretty descriptive
I thought I had to put ice cubes on it. No wonder it broke.
You need white monster ice cubes not water lmao what a joke
dry ice cubes š
I prefer air cubes š¤
i just thinked of a new way to cool gpus
what if you stick a gpu chip on the gpu chip. They both get hot what if the other chip sucks the temperature of the other chip and it repeats
and it creates a vortex somehow and im not gonna explain how
and the heat just goes inside the vortex
Now featuring, "Mini Tornado Cooling"
Codename Vortex
i have the legendary r9 280x

I still think it's an eye
will a 1660 ti run most games high settings into the next several years?
not likely
most games arent AAA, you didnt specify resolution, nor did you specify desired refresh rate
So... yes
i need a new gpu i have 200 bucks what should i buy
Bruh why the GDDR6 1650 slower than the GDDR5 version š
Whats your CPU @lone pond
ryzen 5 3600
I think the 580 8gb would be good since its like 160$ or 170$. if you can spend a little over your budget I believe the 1660 Super would be better however
i have a gtx 1060 3gb so need something better than that im ok with used stuff
@normal hawk doesn't the 580 run super hot
My brothers room is like a sauna ya
My new GPU's fans are nice. like a personal air conditioner
I got an RTX 2070 Super
ah ye
I admit I want a 2060. But unfortunately the 1660 Super is what's in my price range. But it should still be a good card for someone who's content with 1080p gaming and isn't looking to dip into the most demanding titles out there.
I have a 1660 Super since I traded my RTX 2060 to my brother so he could have a small upgrade
what is the GTX 970's competitor?
I keep my computer parts :-)
Eh
Jk that was very kind of you
I would have no reason to keep it.
I mostly play World of Warcraft, Sims 4, sometimes Guild Wars 2, and some other assorted older games.
A 1660 Super would be fine for ya @acoustic ginkgo
i think im going to get a gtx 1070 ti or a 1660 super
I can't reuse my old graphics card since it's built into my laptop, or I would just stick with my 1060 a while longer.
I could always mail you a 240 or 560 ti lol
i have a proud Rtx 2070
i miss my gtx 1660ti
and i miss my very old Gtx Titan
and my Intel HD graphics gpu
the one that cant even run roblox
and minecraft
Good morning folks, I recently bought a 27" "QHD" monitor from NewEgg, and I am supposed to change the display resolution to 2560x1440, but the "Intel HD Graphics" card on my desktop computer only goes up to 2048x1152. I think I need to replace it, but I am bewildered and overwhelmed by the options. So, I have two questions: 1. Can I just go with any budget priced graphics card (for me, that is <$75; for example, "MSI GeForce GT 710 DirectX 12 GT 710 1GD3H LP 1GB 64-Bit DDR3 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready Low Profile Video Card")? (Please bear in mind that almost none of that descriptive text means anything to me). 2. If not, could someone describe the "bare minimum" requirements for a QHD graphics card? I am not a gamer, mostly use this computer for doing videoconference meetings (I am an educator), watching movies, reading, etc. Thank you!
@tough ledge is your current machine something you have assembled yourself?
No, it's a Dell optiplex 7010 that I bought on NewEgg.
Here is more info: Processor: Intel Core i5-3470 CPU @ 3.20GHz; Installed RAM: 16.0 GB; System type: 64-bit operating system, x64-based processory.
@tough ledge does your specific version of the 7010 come with a displayport connector on the back?
Yes, it does. One display port, and one "DVI" (but not an HDMI port).
are you using displayport at the moment or?
Right now I have a cable that is DVI on the computer end, and HDMI on the monitor end.
does the monitor have a Displayport input?
Yes, it does. Also, I was wrong about the cable: it's Displayport on the computer end, and HDMI on the monitor end.
hm
let me guess, you are currently limited to 1920 * 1200 ?
reason i keep asking about this, is the following info from Intel about the GPU that is in your cpu
For 2nd and 3rd Generation Intel® Core⢠Processors the maximum supported resolutions are:
DisplayPort 1.1 = 2560x1600 at 60 Hz
HDMI 1.4 = 1920x1200 at 60 Hz
DVI (Single-link) = 1920x1200 at 60 Hz
VGA = 2048x1536 at 75 Hz
Interesting! You're close: I'm limited to 2048x1152. So does that mean I could just buy a new cable, that is DP on both ends?
so IF you have a displayport to displayport cable, you might be able to forego getting a new graphics card
i would say it is worth trying to ask around if someone has a cable you could borrow for a quick test
Thank you! Great advice: I'll do that. Much appreciated.
Especially these days. Sigh š
indeed
and just for future reference
that is the intel page with the info
and your cpu is a 3rd gen
(the above is also in case someone else helps you in the future, at least some of the info is here now)
Many thanks!
You are very welcome, and best of luck :)
What is max fps @ 1080p on vga?
Wait what
Is this some analog trickery
nope

Why am I getting such bad fps then
it has nothing to do with vga
you are asking a question that you think you understand. but you dont.
that is the problem.
Of course I don't :)
the display standard doesnt limit the amount of FPS that is possible
I have a 2060s and it's Minecraft... So what's going on?
you are not reading what i am writing @boreal turret
But I don't understand
i know.
Is it a little like DDR standards, in that there are faster memory modules than the established standard?
the question you wanted to ask is this: what is the max fps that a 2060 Super can deliver at 1080p in minecraft [edit: in minecraft]
Ok
and that is also a question i have no idea about the answer to
because i dont play minecraft
never have, most likely never will
Try it
fairly certain i have some paint that needs watching while it dries. That to me, seems like the more productive use of time.
Lol
Do you just have a thing for Minecraft or do you just not like video games
i dont see a point in playing minecraft
i dont like the look, nor does the gameplay loop seem interesting to me
I've never beat a game of Minecraft :p
Dont like pvp?
I dont like it either tbh
Huh
why would i play a game, that i dont like the majority of ?
Idk not forcing you to play
it is not exactly as if there is a lack of games to play
but in general, i dont play all that many games nowadays
doesnt really work with the amount of work i do
Nowadays,?
yes, when i went to school some 20+ years ago, it was different.
Did you play galaga
that was about 30 years ago
I liked it (not thirty years ago tho)
my last couple of years in school was spent playing a heck of a lot of quake 2
I don't even know what that was
an actually fun to play FFA fps
Fortnite hater too?
i dont see the point in Fortnite
its a mix of a styles, none of which are actually that well done
I just don't like it
in a garish skin
and i will happily admit, my wrist will scream at me if i try and play any FPS in the way i used to
Thats unfortunate
I've watched a few Fortnite videos, and the structure design is remarkably ordinary
They look like buildings
If Fortnite played freely like Minecraft I would be interested in it
Building and such
Occasionally I get a sliver of interest in Minecraft's basic survival goal of beating the ender dragon, but I've never gotten to that point
In the end I play most games for creative designing and building aspects, as well as simulation
That's all :)
You can get some pretty cool screenshots in Minecraft with 4k ray tracing
I saw one on reddit that looked insane
I want to upgrade from my GT 730 so I can play Minecraft with yummy shaders š
I get 14 fps
With or without shaders?
With
I mean there good for screenshots and maybe normal survival but I use them in my hardcore world and they make it so much darker
has anyone got a gpu backplate from v1tech if so can you send a pic?
it would mean the world
Best GPU our there? Is it Titan RTX, Titan V, Quadro 8000, 2080TI? I am making up a dream build (if I could afford it) and I am wondering how to take it. Maybe 2080ti SLI is the way to go, but idk.
E-450 apu with Radeon HD 6320 graphics, and single channel memory
Probably the quadro
Best GPU ever
is there a way to find out which display port is the main port on a gpu or does it matter
Dweebs
evga card,no manual must be online maybe'
Probably
@reef briar it should not matter.
I need help with what GPUs will fit a pretty old computer my brother is using. Can anyone tell me what GPUs would fit? Iām pretty sure heās using:
That case alone seems like it could fit a long and wide card
https://i.pcmag.com/imagery/reviews/00b495DwufiIUC3Ju1OBHoQ-8.fit_scale.size_2698x1517.v_1569477933.jpg <- if that is true of what his looks like
physically, most cards will fit
the problem/challenge is the power requirement
so the safe bet is going with something that doesnt require a PCI-C power plug
What GPUs will even hook up to that MOBO though? I donāt even know what itās running. But heāll need a new PSU and GPU just to make sure thereās enough power.
Well, nearly every GPU these days runs on PCIe x16 slots, not AGP or PCI
That is
Except for my All In Wonder Radeon 7500
So his best bet is to just replace the MOBO, GPU and PSU then?
Bc that MOBO has to be severely outdated by now..
No, it has a PCIe x16 slot
From what that above picture shows
The blue horizontal thing
Right, just saw that. Iāll have to ask him if thatās what his looks like.
In that picture, there is a card plugged into the PCIe slot below it, and that would need to be moved
Thanks. I completely missed that.
What CPU/GPU does it have? What RAM type and speed?
Iād have to ask. I have no idea, Iām assuming whatever came stock in it. He did say he just bought more RAM tho. But I donāt know what type.
Lots of things to investigate
Well, I shall be back then. š thanks for the info so far. I appreciate it.
Yer welcome
Oo ic
Just a little older than mine, when it comes to CPU
From the picture the PSU looks like it was made by the same people as mine was
It might be 280-300 watts
Without power cables for higher wattage GPUs
Ahh..
I need a graphics card
1070 ti is like a rtx 2060 so i should be good plus gtx 1070 ti has 8gb or vram so
what gpu do you guys recommend for a Ryzen 5 3600
Well that all goes off budget. I could say a 2080ti but I'm certain that's not what you were asking
What's your budget @scenic storm
probably in the 400$ range
For $400 if you want to go the Nvidia route you could get either a 2060 Super or a 2070
right now i have an amd Radeon rx 580
The 5700 XT is what I'd get if you stayed amd. But they have driver issues.
Best performance: 5700xt
Best reliability and functionality: 2060 super
2060S if you want to do recording / streaming. If not then 5700XT should be about as stable now
20.4.1 fixed everything
I have 0 problems
And yeah, if streaming go 2060s
I just streamed and while maintaining high fps it was kinda pixely at times
Okay so here we go.
I recently bought a VR Headset and I'm looking to also buy a 2080 ti. Did some smart investing over the passed 8 or so months and got solid returns.
Anyone have any experience with what would be the best brand to buy? I'm thinking an EVGA or an Asus STRIX.
I'd go with an EVGA because of their best-in-industry warranty reputation and wide range of cards from the "budget"
2080 ti black edition, to the liquid nitrogen OC targeted K|ngp|n edition.
If you plan to play around with bios flashing or shunt modding, I'd go with an asus strix/matrix.
Any comments on Super vs TI?
I hear some people saying that the Super is just a gimped TI.
2080 super uses a different die - a TU 104 chip with cut down cores, ROPs etc. Yep it is - though it's still a very capable card.
Here's a great thread comparing various cards, the "power limit" is the main spec to compare, ignore the base/boost clocks for the most part.
Last Updated: February 3, 2020 NVIDIA GeForceĀ® RTX 2080 Ti Ā Ā Ā Ā Ā Ā Ā Ā RTX 2060 / SUPER Owner's Club Ā Ā Ā Ā Ā Ā Ā Ā RTX 2070 / SUPER Owner's
Goodness, you are knowledgeable on these cards! I've never bought this far into 'cutting edge' before. And may end up reinvesting my money and waiting till towards the end of the year to buy one.
Do you think they'll go cheaper or stay at their current pricetag?
And as another point of reference, I was very distantly interested in a Galax one, but shyed away from it because it's more of an "Apple" of the GPU market.
Well they might drop in the end of the year slightly because nvidia is releasing their 3000 series lineup so even if they don't drop you'll be able to get more for your money then
And ya forks knows a whole lot of stuff about everythingš
I'm just looking to turn my system into a long-term PC. It's already most of the way there right now and is really well taken care of.
A well-binned 9900k pairs very well with a 2080 ti.
Definitely š
Especially for 1440p VR.
For sure you'll get that with a 2080 tiš
I already get it with my 2070. :L
Lol yep
I'll keep my eyes peeled for pump and dump deals. I know they tend to do stuff kind of like that right before dropping new cards, but I usually was looking at mid to mid-upper tier cards at those times.
Ok sounds good š
I know it's also kind of a default nogo on CPUs.
But are used GPUs something that is worth looking into, or should I just totally steer clear if I have the money?
Oof, this looks like an amazing deal.
Same price as the EVGA card I'm looking at, has better clock speed and another fan.
Haha, I just have a similar setup myself and I did a lot of that kind googling/research when choosing parts.
I almost jumped into a Threadripper build last year before the 2990 came out.
NICE CASE
Lol - it's a HP MSA-70 turned upside down with some modifications and an OpenBenchtable BC-1 on top.
I've always dug the industrial techno-trash feel of completely open PC builds. Bench boards are great.
To answer your question - I don't think there'll be huge discounts on 2080 ti's until Ampere arrives on shelves - and even then -
Buy components when you need/want them - there will always been something faster/newer/RGB'er
speaking of which forks, im at my moms house which means i can focus more on setting up the server
I'm really just thinking about springing on this 2080 Strix Ti on Newegg.
Could even apply for financing and boost my credit score extra after paying it off in 12 months.
Ya, I'd be down to work on that - I wanna reformat that rig to baremetal ubuntu and run everything on top through docker
Or return it if it has problems.
On buying a 2080 ti strix - notice how there are (confusingly) 3? models of that card on the OCN thread I linked. You want to get one of the models with the higher power limit.
if you guys could trade a 1080ti for a 2080 would you?
are there any major differences between the 1070ti and the 2070 super
20 series is more power efficient and has more features like rt/tensor/dlss
1070ti better raw price performance for now
i think
if you were to buy one now what would you choose
well
last week i would've said 1070ti
but there's a lot of hype around dlss 2.0
so it might be worth going for the 2070s
i bought a 1080ti myself 3 months ago
2070 super is the newer version of the 1070 ti, 1070 ti is around 2060 performance so its a lot weaker, but its a good deal if you can find it used for like 200-230
Any opinions on a GPU for playing.... WoW? I play at roughly 2k res (window on a 4k monitor) with a 1030 GT currently, and figure it might be worthwhile upgrading :). Not a hard core player, so something in the 5500XT - 1660 - 1650 Super is probably sufficient...
Is there a 2080ti type (EVGA, ASUS, etc.) that is known for being good or better than other 2080tiās, when specifically looking at sli compatibility?
Just buy the same card.
^
Right, but there are dozens of 2080tiās that have different MHz for boost and core clock and im not dumb enough to think that all 2080tiās are built the same, lol.
but triple slot cards might be a little choked/cant run one on top slot depending on the space between the pcie spots
gigabyte windforce is pretty good, only $1100 rn and decent cooling
Are you in the market for a pair for 2080 ti's?
Who isn't š
I do two main things: Gaming and heavy video/photo editing at high resolutions. I also donāt want much bottleneck between the Cpu and tiās.
Assuming one is planning a dual 2080 ti build - it's certainly doable to find a custom loop or adequate spacing solution to house them.
One can always start with a single 2080 ti and then decide if they want the second.
SLI/NVlink brings its own set up hiccups - but SLI isn't the joke/meme it used to be.
I heard that it is a meme now, lol.
Im running a Ryzen 3600 with the stock cooler, can I overclock(even a little)the GPU without negatively effecting the cpu amd its temps?
yes
@torpid garden thank you
2080 super?
@torn lynx no sir, this is my first pc and going with a 2070
hello can anyone help me please .I bought a GTX 1650 low profile card and 500w power supply to make sure the card will work and I HAVE 8 GB OF RAM after I installed the card in my computer it worked on the display before I installed all the drivers it worked but after my PC asked to restart it it worked but didn't get to the windows home screen it just stay black screen how can I fix that
hey i have a question about the 1660 and 1660 super
my friend says the super is better then the ti
i say the ti is better
ti
is better
but for the price performance difference, i would suggest the super
assuming your gpu budget is limited to however much the 1660ti costs
good
same card
instead of writing out super, we like to abreviate to just s
so 1660, 1660s, 1660ti
its cleaner that way lol
okay thank you
@brisk flame theres functionally 0 difference
actually
in MOST modern cases the 1660s would perform better
due to its faster memory
it performs slightly worse in synthetics
memory is the only difference between the 1660 non-super and the super
and 1660 super vs 1660ti is a difference of memory speeds, slight difference in clcoks and a solid difference in the GPU itself
1660ti is TU116-400
1660s is TU116-300
what would y'all choose- 2070 super or a 1080(non-ti)
@wet temple I'd say 2070 Super
pog
yeah but would you rather get some top-notch performance for cheaper or get rtx for more
depends on where you get the 1080, and how much you pay for it
i mean true
"get RTX for more", but you're also getting not just RTX, but more rasterization perf too. The proper price/perf comparison would be 2060S/1080 because they are in the same rasterization perf category. Just that the 2060S has RTX and a new NVENC
1080 does get better lows tho
from all the tests ive seen the lows on the 2060S are either the same or way worse
was that not a driver issue from long ago?
how long ago? the most recent test vid i can find on youtube is 3 months ago
2 months ago*
its a terrible vid, but shows them perfoming similarly, which i would expect
but of course, from a price standpoint, a 1080ti vs a 2060s, the 1080ti is better at the same price, but it is used
so it really just depends
Hows the rx5700 xt doing with bios and such still got bugs?
i kno, and i would say 1080 if you get a good deal and it comes from a trustworthy place
2060s otherwise
help me 1660 super or 2060
2060 imo
i mean
for a hard budget 1660 but i don't have a hard budget
900 can fit that pretty well
2080ti
what do we think about a 1660ti
@native grove the recent driver update fixed a lot of the issues people were having like the black screen crash
what do we think about a 1660ti
@vague vortex
There is barely any performance difference between the TI and Super version so
I'd go for a super if you were debating between the two
How much of a difference would you say the 1660 is from the 5600 XT?
I ended up choosing 1660s last night either way
@urban zenith
the 5600XT does have higher performance than the 1660
but the 1660S is probably a better deal than the 5600XT considering their performance isnt that far off
Enough to justify the 50+?
Okay, I've settled on 1080p gaming, and I'm okay with 120FPS, doesn't have to be max.
I'm honest just playing MMOs.
Would the 2060 be a big enough difference to take the plunge?
Just thinking longevity.
its a possible consideration
hmm
personally id still go with the 1660S since they both have the same amount of vram, but you're not gonna be using it for more graphics heavy uses in the future
unless you are in which case the 2060 may be more worth your while
I mean, not that I'm aware of. I do want to be able to play whatever I want when I do.
But I'm just not up to date with PC gaming
what games do you play other than mmos?
Uh, I played a few indie games. Otherwise the only other games I have installed are Hellblade and Darksiders 3.
Nothing major. No FPS or anything.
oh cool
1660S should be a good choice then
do ask others for input if you're still not sure
No, that helps. I obviously see the number differences in the 5600XT/2060. But I don't know if I need bells and whistles, yknow?
Practical experience and knowledge is better
the turing NVENC on the 1660S is a nice feature too
if you ever think about streaming
Maybe for friends
Thank you for the insight.
Thanks @ember imp
alright well i'm beefing up my cpu so now it's time for the gpu!
what is a good gpu that costs 400$ that'll make a good difference from my 580
I mean new you can get a 2060s or a 5700x. If you go used you can probably snag a 2070s
Aight
which one is more worth it: rx5700 or rtx 2060?
He can also flash it to 5700xt performance right? @royal copper
If he so chooses
Aight š
Any point in getting either a GTX 2060 or 1660S when pairing it with a Pentium G5400? It will definitely bottleneck, but will still run. For my work machine, which I also use for WoW (which is the only game I play aside from Eve occasionally)...
I just bought a previously owned Refurbished: ZOTAC GeForce GT 630 from NewEgg but it came without a driver. I asked cusotmer service but they gave me no useful ansdwer other than to ask here. Does anyone have a link to the driver?
probably should just get a upgrade. what are you specs @fair sorrel ?
CPU: Pentium Gold G5400
GPU: GT 1030
PSU: Powerspec 550 watt
Motherboard: Gigabyte H310A 2.0
RAM: 16 Gb Crucial Ballistix Sport 2666 DDR4
SSD: Crucial P1 512 Gb NVME
Monitor is an Acer CB281HK 4K monitor.
So, 9400KF/3600 roughly speaking?
yeah
Cool, thanks!
yes
Hey guys, i got a bit of an issue with my Rx5700xt, its not major but its a bit annoying, every now and then the screen goes black for like a few seconds, its not long but its super annoying and makes me lose or die in game sometimes. I tried changing the DP cable and tried every single DP port on my graphics card. Quick Note if it changes anything, I used a NZXT kraken G12 to water cool it with an AIO, also my Radeon software is up to date. Any Suggestions??
does anyone know how to solve a B2 error? i just got a RTX 2060S
would 2070 super do decent on 1440p via borderland 3?
Yea
why wont my asus rog strix slot into my gigabyte aorus elite board? am i doing something wrong
Probably
There is a clip on the end of the slot, make sure it is pressed down
The clip was pressed down yet it still wouldn't slot in. And I dont want to apply to much pressure. Dont wanna break it
Might help if you send a picture @loud sphinx
@loud sphinx a couple of things to remember:
The card slots in at a 90 degree angle to the mainboard.
Have you checked that you have taken out the correct back plate covers?
Did you make sure you took the cover off the part of the graphics card that goes into the slot?
@hazy quest maybe itās a power problem? I have those problems before, but worse. Like the computer turning completely black.
@mystic shadow thanks for the suggestion, I actually did try that, I had a 600w evga bronze psu, I ended up swapping it for a Corsair 750w, also bronze rated, I also went onto the power settings and set the power consumption for high performance, I hoped that would fix it but unfortunately it's still the same issue, I also went into the driver and added +50% power so it can use all the power it needs, but all the same story sadly. It especially sucks with the new game Valorent, I was lucky enough to get into the beta, and it's really difficult sometimes to overcome that, because you have to be extremely cautious and aware in that game, and I just go blind for like 5 seconds and that's gg lol
Again, I really appreciate your suggestions
Maybe not just that, like a surge?
Do you mean like its using too much power? That could actually be it, theres a bunch of video guides, none that I have watch but have seen floating around to Overclock and Undervolt the Rx5700xt
Yeah
Once I tried to overclock my gpu, the computer stopped working until I uninstalled the gpu and uninstalled the graphics drivers
Woah, I've never experienced that, I did notice however, and maybe its cuz of the new drivers but the rx5700xt is somewhat unresponsive to Msi Afterburner, like I change a setting, and it forces another setting to change aswell, my rx580 never had that issue
Very interesting
Just use the afterburner to turn the clocks down, maybe
I will try, I will also try just undervolting it, to see if that's the main issue
And if thatās not possible, uninstall the afterburner and click donāt keep settings, then reinstall it
But what I think is happening with msi afterburner, is because with the new Adrenaline driver for amd gpus, you can overclock directly through the driver, but it has a strict limit, and I think that limit blocks afterburner from exceeding those limits, but who knows
Then try not overclocking it
Tru, could be
does anyone use the Msi 1660ti and is it any good
i mean yeah its a solid card
might buy the 2060 for sale near me. he wants $250 obo
thats pretty good
upgrading from an rx580, any ideas as to what i should get? cpu is r5 2600 and psu wattage is 550, curious on opinions before i buy
ty if you suggest anything
So ya a 2060 lines right up
so $250 isnt a bad deal for a 2060?
@violet forge I had a msi 1660ti before upgrading to my rtx 2070 super, and the 1660ti is a great budget card and outperforms the 1660 super even though it may cost more retail
@wind dagger consider flashing a 5700 up to a 5700xt too.
@rugged zenith no, they usually go for $300+ (not including tax) so it's a good deal
thatās wack
@oblique idol no, it does not outperform the 1660 super
at all
the increased memory bandwidth helps the 1660 super to omuch
to the point where its gaster than the 1660ti
@wind dagger for 300 you get a 5700 and flash it, for 220-240 range you either get a 1660 super or you get a used vega 56
300 can also get you a 1080 but I would still go with the flashed 5700
2060 really only makes sense in the case where you plan on streaming or have a super weak PSU
a lot is rn
Reason: Bad word usage
!
the 5700 performs as good as a 2060 super, soooo
and its only a bit more
as for the 1660ti
no
just no
the answer is 1660 super
not the ti....
so super then?
yeah pretty much
Not the ti lol pls no
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/Z3wkcf/msi-geforce-gtx-1660-super-6-gb-ventus-xs-oc-video-card-gtx-1660-super-ventus-xs-oc
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/Z3wkcf/msi-geforce-gtx-1660-super-6-gb-ventus-xs-oc-video-card-gtx-1660-super-ventus-xs-oc
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/y2xbt6/zotac-geforce-gtx-1660-super-6-gb-twin-fan-video-card-zt-t16620f-10l
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/CnpmP6/gigabyte-geforce-gtx-1660-super-6-gb-oc-video-card-gv-n166soc-6gd
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/sFZzK8/zotac-geforce-gtx-1660-super-6-gb-gaming-amp-video-card-zt-t16620d-10m
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/DdbCmG/gigabyte-geforce-gtx-1660-super-6-gb-gaming-oc-video-card-gv-n166sgaming-oc-6gd
Unless used or refurbished with pricing at the super
then never Ti
these are some of the better models
pretty much but
even then
as textures get bigger with newer games
we're gonna see the super start to do better
as it has an increased memory bandwidth
so even same price I'd get the super
Will textures get higher res tho? I feel like that really isnt the way to go for realism as textures seem high enough.
parralax and higher poly can only go so far
res 1080 if you're curious
teture increases are inevitable
not to mention
it's much easier to increase texture sizes
than to do more geometry work
as a game developper
True
to an extent
how much does flashing a 5700(xt?) boost perf?
how can I install the graphics card drivers with out my computer turning off???
You can try booting into safe mode
Whatās the best (cheap and good) rx5700 xt?
if your feel comfortable with some bios flashing
the cheapest 5700xt is actually just a 5700
now it may not work
but a bunch of people have been pulling it off with great success
I recently downloaded blur and I tried to play it. It didnt run well and skipped a lot. I have a radeon rx 590 and figure that its enough to actually run the game. I looked at task manager and saw that "Video Incode" was running at 99% sitting at the homescreen. I tried Overclocking a tad but nothing seemd to work. Not sure where to go. Any ideas?
best graphics card for 1080p 144hz?
Budget?
Well your not going to get a "best" card in that range. Your just about in 1660 super range tho. Probably your best bet
kk
is it worth upgrading my rtx 2060 phoenix?
to like a 2070 or 2080/ti?
im not sure if spending that type of money is justifiable..feels like an upgrade like that would just be purely aesthetic
if you dont need the performance, it would be useless
What type of performance boost would I get from a 2060 -> 2070
I heard like a 15% if not 10% increase, but for double the pricew
well, technically the 2070 doesn't exist anymore
2070 Super has replaced it at the same price
GPU 2019 benchmarks: Compare two products side-by-side or see a cascading list of product ratings along with our annotations.
so, you can have a look here
also, i dont know where you found the "for double the price" part, but that is not true, unless you go out of your way to find the most expensive 2070 Super you can
@spice prawn Some 2070 still are at 2060S price actually
https://pcpartpicker.com/products/video-card/#c=446,425&sort=price
What exactly is "video encode" and is there any way to decrease the toll it is taking on my GPU?
Whats a good rx 5700 xt? Im thinking of sappire pulse or whatever its called
pls ping me
I recently downloaded blur and I tried to play it. It didnt run well and skipped a lot. I have a radeon rx 590 and figure that its enough to actually run the game. I looked at task manager and saw that "Video Incode" was running at 99% sitting at the homescreen. I tried Overclocking a tad but nothing seemd to work. Not sure where to go. Any ideas?
I just tried to hop on to siege and the game just closed out with no warning. similar issue
I also had the lowest graphics possible
Also I have gone into a Thunt and it works fine
does this idle temp seem a bit high even with fans off
Not really
@mystic shadow I hear that the nitro+ is the best 5700xt
I don't own one myself just what I've heard from other people
@mystic shadow the pulse is the best budget/small card. The Powercolor red devil and sapphire nitro+ are some of the best 5700xt
i have been noticing frame drop on my 2060, know any remedy's?
I found a AMD Radeon RX 5500 XT for $190 (US). Is this a good deal?
i'm upgrading from a gtx 1050ti
@open wedge 4 gig or 8 gig version?
8gb
the msrp for that one is 199
https://www.anandtech.com/bench/product/2577?vs=2573 <- this gives you a rough idea about the performance difference
GPU 2019 benchmarks: Compare two products side-by-side or see a cascading list of product ratings along with our annotations.
Would a 580 8gb be a better choice?
I'm playing games like my summer car and beamng
mostly
also forza horizon 4
i honestly dont know
lol I'm trying to upgrade cause my 1050ti is always pinned at %100
poor guy
idk if I want to go amd or nvidia cause nvidia looks better but is way more expensive
that's a good choice.
Are the lights on the asus rog strix 2080 controllable or are they permanently red?
is the gigabyte 2070 super oc any good?
Huh. The 1660 Super I had on my wishlist went out of stock
any good sales out there in the 300 to 400 range
Would it be a bad idea to repaste my gpu on my MSI Gaming X trio 2080 Ti? It's my 3rd rma card and have no idea what kinda job they did
If you know what your doing then what's the harm š
3rd rma?!
guys should i get the gtx 1660 s over the rx 580 for 80 euros more in order to get 20 fps more,better cooling,50 watts less and better drivers and less bottleneck cause i will get the r5 2600 and its a 30% bottleneck with the rx 580 but with 1660s its 0,5%
Well excuse me third card second RMA
i need help ppl
to keep it short as possible
i am building my first PC. I have decided on using the r5 3600 so now just need to decide on GPU. I am stuck between getting a lower/mid tier card like a 1660 super or 5600xt and getting a new card once the next generation releases OR getting something more potent like 5700xt, 2060 super, 2070 and riding that card out for a few years.... anyone have any guidance ?
i will mostly play what i already play on PS4 - Madden, CoD, Battlefield, GTA, etc but also want to be able to play demanding titles like tomb raider on good graphics if i choose to
@mental plinth well whatās ur budget? For a GPU
im trying to stay under 1100 for entire build
but less the better
so i guess like 450 or less would be good 360ish or less would be great
@mental plinth kinda late but if you want to save some money, you could get a 5700 and flash the bios to get similar to 5700xt performance, if not you could just get a 5700xt
Although if you plan to stream or record games, i would get an nvidia gpu
@tired swan ya I said that already lol
oh sorry
oh ok, i was wondering where i had missed it
Ya š
@lone pond oh god uses sli, definately not made in 2020
the card in that terrible song is the 6800, so its like 15 years old
Imagine having integrated like me
imagine
I have integrated
I also have discrete 
That is
Discrete which is marginally better than integrated
Need some help if anyone is willing
Your more likely to get help if you state your problem, rather than just saying you need help
I installed my new 2060 super strix after ddu old drivers and now my pc won't boot but everything is lit up
I remember this same thing happened years back when I got the 1070
Try resetting the cmos
Hello, I was hoping for some direction... I need to order a new graphics card for my Apple tower. Right now I have an ATI Radeon HD 5770 -1024MB. I have an Intel Xeon processor. 3.46 GHz 6-core. What graphics cards can I use with this processor and operating system?
check #electronics for my reply
I have a question...
Should I upgrade to the RX 5700 or an rtx 2060 super or 2070? I have a Ryzen 5 2600x
Are you planning on streaming?
^
Sorry for the late response. Probably not but i play vr a lot. Im upgrading from an rx580 8gb
Just ordered a Gigabyte 2070 Super WindForce yesterday
A little over $525 after tax
nice
Getting it on Friday
And crap. The 1660 Super I was going to get is out of stock again
Oof
@livid heron if your not streaming the 5700 xt will give you the best performance for your money. Costs the same as a 2060 super but performs like a 2070 super
Okay thanks! Will it pair well with my cpu?
Yessir
Thoughts on Gtx 1650 (non super)
dont get it
the super is the same price, and the 1650 is basically a failure of a card unless you dont have a 6/8 pin cable on your psu
@twin crown if the prices are all weird where you live and the super is a lot more expensive, see if the rx 570 or 580 is available for a decent price
Is the difference negligible of a rx 580 to an rx 590?
Probably, it's like 10%
can someone help me overclock my 1050 TI?
Raise the power limit in afterburner
You probably shouldn't overclock the GPU on a laptop @north escarp
You'll either hit power or temp limits (probably power)
and yeah a laptop gpu is not going to have much headroom for overclocking
some laptops and such even lock the settings like voltage, clock speed, etc.
Question guys, I got a hp pavilion gaming laptop today. I was trying to play my game(Lotto Lord of the rings online fairly low demand) and I had it on Max and it was jumping from 30-60 everyother second with the GPU at ~20% and the CPU around the same. How do I up the usage?
Yeah ran into that, the voltage and fans and the one other thing we're locked from me @royal copper
Anyone know whatās a good $200 card for a Micro ATX build
The exact card depends on the case. The case specs will list maximum GPU dimensions.
PSU would be good to know too.
Going to blindly suggest a used GTX 1070 or a RX 590/5500 XT 1650 Super though. ĀÆ_(ć)_/ĀÆ
is $170 for a 1070 good
I have a combo question, I have AMD Ryzen 3 1200 Quad-core Processor, 3100 Mhz. on a AB350-Gaming 3-CF. What I need to know is, will the new GTX/RTX 2000 series video cards load and run on that combo?
Its a full tower case and mobo
Nothing about that combo would make games not run, Jay.
Chris, generally speaking, yeah. I usually check ebay (sold listings) for prices but try to buy used gear off of computer forums I trust (TPU or HardForums). Anywhere that requires HeatWare links.
@storm pumice It'd work, however on general anything above 1060/1650S perf will gain deminishing returns due to CPU not being good enough
@analog slate decent deal
How does the Radeon RX 5700 XT perform? What NVIDIA card does it compare to?
which Graphics card is better
the 5500xt has a little higher fps in games but the 570 has double the vram
Question in relation to the RTX cards, I see some with Super, Ti, SC, XC, Gaming tacked on. Is there a resource or easy explanation to whats really different between them?
there are only 3 versions of each @urban zenith
plain, super, TI
the rest are manufacturer specific marketing BS
2060 super and 2060 super xc has very little performance diff
not worth extra money
at the card level, the difference is how the card looks (basically)
and how much the manufacturer can convince the customer that words are worth
Oh, I got it based on the deal. Not so much trying to get the best. I just want to interpret what I purchased now, lol.
now, just to make it a bit more confusing
originally there was the 2060/2070/2080
then the 2070 got replaced by the 2060super
and the 2080 got replaced by the 2070super
they basically added super to the end of all the cards, but they are better
and now we are in the situation where the 2070 and 2080 are slowly disappearing from retailers
So the Super is noticeably better than normal variant.
yes
And Ti is one step above that?
when compared to the number variant? yes
I have the normal 2070 
as in, a 2070 super is better than the 2070
but, depending on metrics, not better than the 2080 that is replaces
the TI cards are techically above the super
(also, in case all of this is confusing as all heck, dont worry. it is knowledge that you cannot use for anything)
No, it's giving me the hierarchy more or less.
Yes, all the added nomenclature on the card makes it sound awesome.. but deep down inside I have a 2060 Super
aye
and if knowing you have the XC with sparkles model, makes you feel better? good for you
Nah. I just liked the deal. Haha
:)
And my rig doesn't have any fancy rgb or design.
just go get a AORUS GeForce RTX 2080 Ti comes with rgb lol
rtx titan or nothing
eh 2080 ti and the titan are pretty similar in performance but very different in price lol
NVIDIA QUADRO RTX 8000 or nothin
so if im looking to get a mid range priced gpu id say anywhere from 300-600 and i want it to run high fps with pretty good graphics does anyone have suggestions that are worth my time/money?
$300-$600 is what I mean, I would be willing to go over if it was one that would last me a good while
a 2070 super would fit in that budget
the fps on high settings depends on the game but I think it could do a decent job at getting around 144fps in most games at high
ok ill look into it, thanks much!
2060 super or flash 5700 to XT?
flash to 5700xt is not a good idea
you might end up bricking the card
also AMD cards have a lot of issues
id go with 2060 super
thank you
yep
Can someone help me with a question about graphics card vs power supply?
I have a pc i built back in 2015. 4 screen trade desk. R7 260x is in there now. I want to upgrade the card to an AMD 5700 or 5700xt but unsure if I need to then buy another power supply. My current one is a 550w. Saw an MSI 5700 on newegg that said suggested 750w but after using the power supply calculator everything came out to only 416w. Not sure if its a risk or not to just get a 5700 / 5700 xt without changing power supply
@visual scroll i just got a 5700 xt today and it doenst use that much, i have a 650w and it runs fine
Awesome thanks! I was a bit bummed when I saw the system requirements for 750w on the msi. Which card did you get @gilded dove
Asus ROG Strix 5700 XT
Oh nice. Cool thanks again
rtx 2060 good gpu for i7 4770? or should i just get a 1070 (currently have rx480 and play at 1080p)
If you care about ray tracing, go for the rtx 2060. Feel like a bottleneck though.
probably upgrade your gpu @mellow kiln
just get the rtx, overall better bench
I need an honest opinion
ASUS rog strix 2080 Super vs MSI trio 2080ti , in Canada with tax itās roughly a 750$ difference
Iāve gotten everything gpu is my last part
both are overpriced
I plan on playing medium to high settings while simultaneously streaming and recording
Is it worth to spend the extra money on that 2080ti? I can afford it just donāt know how big of a frame difference itāll be
All parts are overpriced nowadays what can we do @wicked hound
Just get the cheapest brand with a decent cooler?
there is overpriced, and then there is just setting fire to money levels of overpriced
Hei is not referring to the first type
tho, to be fair, while overpriced those specific AIB cards are a bit lower priced then what I first thought. But still, Smth like Gigabyte Windforce is good enough and is cheapest okay cooler I could find
is the gigabyte rtx 2070 for $370 worth it?
The ones I sent are high performers currently basically priced only a few dollars more then cheap versions
I mean if white version is fine, quite a bit cheaper
https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/product/z9FKHx/palit-geforce-rtx-2080-super-8-gb-white-gamerock-video-card-ne6208st20p2-1040w
or if black, still somewhat cheaper
https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/product/jGfFf7/zotac-geforce-rtx-2080-super-8-gb-gaming-amp-video-card-zt-t20820d-10p
Thatās 30$ cheaper would rather have the triple fan Asus tho
Iād really just like advice on first message
Quick question for yall..
So I currently have a Ryzen 7 2700 paired up with a rx570 for my current setup
I really want to upgrade and switch to team green
Any recommendations?
depends on budget and use case. If streaming / recording then you have a reason for Nvidia. If not then go with whatever gives best rasterization perf for the money; which is sometimes AMD
Well I'm mainly use it for gaming and not really streaming but I wanted the ray tracing feature for some of the games I play
RTX is a gimmick and will stay a gimmick for many years to come. It has a long way to grow before it should be actually recommended. Looks are minimally improved, often with surfaces being horribly done (ex: Wooden doors becoming basically mirrors), for a major perf decrease
Even when future games come out, current gen RTX will be too weak to be properly used
Uh no
I don't know about a gimmick, but we definitely won't see it used as heavily until we get hardware that has better performance. Anything to date is little more than proof of concept.
I dunno. Minecraft rtx is peak performance
Its passible performance only because of upscaling
Thoughts on 2080S v 2080Ti?
it's an interesting feature and something new for the people at nvidia and amd to work on
For graphics cards which is better 8gb memory but 1400 clock speeds or 6gb with 1600 clock speeds?
what are the cards you are looking at?
the 5700xt is quite a bit more powerful, however AMD has a lot of driver issues.
Couldn't find the specific 5700XT
Still is better memory better then more clock speeds?
Or should I get one with higher clock speeds?
a CPU i have from 10 years ago goes to 3ghz, but that does in no way make it better than a current gen CPU
same goes for GPUs
(im pretty sure
)
dont worry about the vram and clock speeds as much, look up videos on performance in games you care about
so you can see the types of FPS youd be gettings
thats whats most important
or, if the use is not for gaming, look up benchmarks for software you use
yep
Memory bandwidth and architecture still matter when looking at video memory performance. Even then, average consumer wouldn't see much of a difference in memory perf given how large the perf difference of the GPU die is
@dense flicker I just ordered the amd rx 5700 xt, what kind of problems did the driver have?
I heard mixed reviews
stuff like this
lol why?
I found a deal I think, https://www.canadacomputers.com/product_info.php?cPath=43_557_559&item_id=124164
This is 1599 vs the msi trio/Asus being around 1730
Is there any difference? Or is that good for literally 150$ less with tax
Latest 5700xt driver fixed a lot of the issues people were having
I havenāt black screened a single time with the new drivers
check their boost clocks
but tbh its a 2080ti, its gonna be a powerful card anyways
not sure how that price translates into USD, but it sounds cheaper than the other 2080tis youve found sooooo
Think 1391 usd vs 1285
seems about on par with other 2080ti prices here
I was set on msi gaming x trio
But seeing the gigabyte one slightly cheaper has me wondering
Trying to justify spending 150$ extra for the same card for maybe a 2-3 frame boost or maybe just better temps
Well also the rgb
Gigabyte is kinda just black but I think I should be good with how many fans Iām adding slowlyš
Rgb fans*
What the heck is wrong with those prices
Exactly
I believe that they are the same but I have no idea whatsoever about the price
Alright lol thanksš
ĀÆ\_(ć)_/ĀÆ
Need a good video card on a relative budget. $200-300 cap. GDDR6 so expensive
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@limpid jacinth I would get a 5700 and flash the bios if you dont mind doing that
I was looking at the ASRock 5700, still out of price range without justification to my wife xD just barely. What would flashing bios do in benefit? Not super familiar
It would almost reach a 5700xt performance
There are risks involved tho so keep that in mind
Should I get rx 580 8gb?
i have one its very nice
but
it depends on your preference
@twin crown its for mid tier gaming but you shouldnt have a problem
i upgraded to the rx 5700 xt but i enjoyed my rx 580
1650S is a better deal the 580. Tho, realistically 570 is the best deal. Barely any worse then either of which, esp after an OC, for $110 as opposed to $160 - $180
Anyone here got a second to help with troubleshooting?
no, KO has poor cooling and should only be gotten when using it for the specific workloads that use the modded 2080 GPU die
Video rendering would benefit right?
Lol what - it's a 2060 with a pretty standard EVGA dual fan cooler.
2060 doesn't put out much heat.
But if you want something better, go for the xc ultra for $20 more
https://www.reddit.com/r/buildapcsales/comments/g33m7u/gpu_evga_2060_xc_ultra_black_gaming_31999_37050/
Not really, what kind of rendering?
Davinci resolve, currently videos render in about real time
The GPU die is fine, but memory and VRMs have really thick thermal pads
considering for $320 you can get a fair bit better in terms of cooling, you might as well unless you need the "quadro" aspect of the 2060 KO
My dad has wanted to build a pc for a while(like years) but never had the chance to and I want to help him but I need the right gpu because I want him to have the very best he can for his money
budget?
yea what budget/what you using it for
I have no idea yet we havenāt gotten that far and he wants to game likely at 4K if possible
I suggest 1440p gaming, as thatās what a lot of monitorās at
If you want 4K, look for low FPS
my budget is ~$1000-1100 and i already started ordering the parts but the not gc yet, is the 2060 super a good choice?
Yes you might even be able to get a 2070
Want me to make you a list?
@rugged meadow
Is that with kb and m or nah
You can get a cheaper rgb ram such as t force for 80 and a cheaper nvme same storage for 30 less
d
I agree you did really well
Just overpriced several things
You donāt need 2 144hz monitors
U just need one for gaming the other is mostly to monitor discord and stuff
i wasnāt really worried about the rgb part of the ram but naed gave me a list of ram that was compatible and i just matched the part numbers and thatās why i have that
i donāt actually plan on getting two of those monitors
theyāre kinda placeholders, i just know i want two monitors
Ok cool cool
Then you can just get 3600 MHz ram for 85 btw
And all ram should be compatable with the board
thats not a bad monitor for the price tho
Sassy take over I trust you I gotta go
yeah those
the reason i went with the 970 evo was because one of my buddies told me you want like name brand for your boot drive because itās more reliable or something
i didnāt really understand it but i figured he knew what he was talking about
should i get a rtx 2070 super or rx 5700 xt
Yep
I mean itās really up to you they are both great just what you perder they perform on Pat to one another if Iām not mistaking
and i would like a fully blacked out ssd because nearly everything else is black so i had this originally before the evo
i have a amd r7 370
I would get the 2070 super just to be safe because 5700 xt has a few minor issues
rn
Whatās your cpu
yeah, that one is good too @rugged meadow
i5 3470
Guys is the 5700 xt raw 2 or sapphire better
I actually might save up longer and goto a 2070
well, for an immediate perf increase, getting a 5700xt is fine, but another system upgrade would be suitable down the road
But me broke I donāt think thatās happening
