#graphics-cards

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midnight summit
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Is 130 for an MSI armor rx 580 mk2 8gb used a bad deal

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Or should I just stick to sapphire like you said before

split hearth
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Thats how I got my workstation for 70$, the person had nobody intrested and it was big and 35 pounds...I just bought it really cause I didnt want to see it go to garbage

slender vigil
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There you go good mc servers xd

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Pretty good for virtual machines and servers but not gaming

summer peak
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the MSI armor runs super hot and gets pretty loud @midnight summit

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it's not a bad deal, but you'll notice that

midnight summit
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Even mk2 of it?

summer peak
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yes

midnight summit
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Heck

ancient crystal
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i need to wire my brain to start saying "heck" here

midnight summit
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Would the freezer fan work to like prevent that

summer peak
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?

midnight summit
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Hol up

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The fan in that

slender vigil
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Is it weird a 12 year that’s into virtual machines server, coding stuff

summer peak
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that's a cpu cooler

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doesn't effect the gpu at all

midnight summit
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Wait how did I get the two mixed up

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I’m on something

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What do you think of that list though

summer peak
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what's your budget, 800?

midnight summit
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Is there something you’d swap

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Yeah around there, just trying to pick the pieces I see around me for even less

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I wish I could find something better than ddr4 ram at like 2666 mhz for 100$ tho

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Or a 100$ case that looks like someone took it on a mud run with them

slender vigil
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?? That ram is very good

midnight summit
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I want more, I’m very annoying

slender vigil
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I want more for virtual machines and stuff that’s why 16 is good for just gaming

summer peak
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if that gpu is too much I can recommend something else

midnight summit
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How did you manage to get that in 850

summer peak
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Lots of experience and knowing where to cut corners

slender vigil
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Rip ssd storage tho

summer peak
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that's the sacrifice for performance though

midnight summit
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I am perplexed

slender vigil
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Yep

summer peak
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he still has an ssd for his boot drive

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and maybe some games

midnight summit
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What else did you even cheap out on

slender vigil
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My current ssd is same storage as that one and with windows and rust csgo mc r6 fills it up

summer peak
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Basically I just know where to cut corners (and more importantly where not to cut corners) to maximize the performance and safety of a machine.

midnight summit
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Like the psu was a must but like

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I am perplexed

slender vigil
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Reason I added 860 evo my dad just ordered it with 60 dollar Newegg gift card for me lmao

summer peak
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For one thing, you'd be using the stock CPU cooler on that rig I linked

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but that's not a bad thing, ryzen stock coolers are adequate

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unlike intel

midnight summit
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Also the 2600 and 2600x are the same price apparently

summer peak
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there must be a sale on the 2600x

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feel free to grab that if it's the same price

midnight summit
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119.99 rn

summer peak
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yeah grab that then

midnight summit
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Epic

summer peak
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it's just factory OC'd but it's nice to have

midnight summit
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But like

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I am thoroughly confused

summer peak
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idk what to tell you, but it's there if you want it

midnight summit
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Having the 590 I had would make it even cheaper

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Are you a robot

summer peak
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you'd get much worse performance

slender vigil
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Imma be stuck with this rig for little with RTX 2070 s and gonna upgrade soon fully

summer peak
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but if you must cut the budget yes

midnight summit
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I don’t really need to cut it

summer peak
midnight summit
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I just want to find the pieces I can get for cheap around me and the 580 mk2 was one of them

slender vigil
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What’s your budget @midnight summit

midnight summit
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But I also don’t want it to melt through my apartment at uni

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800ish

summer peak
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the 590 is getting 60 fps and the rx 5700 is getting 100

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just saiyan

midnight summit
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Oh lord

split hearth
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Well thats a all amd pc

summer peak
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So?

slender vigil
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amd is good

split hearth
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Just have fire extinguisher near your PCNYEHE

summer peak
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good meme bruh very original

split hearth
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Is classic

slender vigil
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Reason I picked RTX over amd was because of gsync and steaming

summer peak
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yeah that makes a lot of sense if that's your goal

slender vigil
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Streaming

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Ye

summer peak
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but if your goal is maximizing performance on a budget

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I don't think you could do much better than the list I put together

slender vigil
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Ye all you swapped out was the ram making it 400mhz better

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Which is nice for about same price

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I got told Corsair was the best 🤔

summer peak
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they're good

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but they're overpriced

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lots of people stick to brand loyalty and it's silly

midnight summit
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I’m one of those people

slender vigil
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I don’t care about branding I care about performance more

midnight summit
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I’ll die for Corsair

summer peak
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performance and features

slender vigil
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Only corsair thing I own is there headset and that should be only Corsair thing I’d have for a long time

midnight summit
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How much better is sapphire to you than other producers visi

slender vigil
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Asus is nice brand

summer peak
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They just make good coolers for AMD things

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the best RX 5700's are the powercolor and sapphire coolers

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other producers really dropped the ball

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but anything by either of those should be good

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the gigabyte aorus rx 5700xt is okay but that's way out of your budget

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the sapphire pulse and the powercolor red dragon are right around the same price and are both super solid

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but the pulse is cheaper right now

slender vigil
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RTX 2070 s with out factoring Gsync or streaming is just tiny better then 5700xt right

summer peak
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It's not even better really

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it's just those features are useful to you

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so you should pay the premium and get it

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where as for Gaelec he needs to maximize performance on a budget

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so the 5700 makes sense for him

midnight summit
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I’m just still amazed at how you managed to get a 5700 in

slender vigil
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The dude knows ways

summer peak
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Anyway, I gotta go, I'll be back in like 30 minutes

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talk to you in a bit

slender vigil
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I need sleep it’s 2 am

midnight summit
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I was fidgeting with part picker for like 2 hours and got clowned on in like 2 mins

slender vigil
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Xd

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Congrats on good build with 5700

split hearth
slender vigil
split hearth
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Thats pretty good

slender vigil
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And getting RTX card free since I’m getting that as birthday present

split hearth
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peepoSadSip you are very lucky

slender vigil
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What do you have for specs

split hearth
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I have a ryzen 1600 and a gtx 1070

slender vigil
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I’m an person learning code, uses virtual machines and servers , likes to play high end games

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I just sold my gtx 1070 for 20

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200

split hearth
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I'm gonna wait a year to upgrade ThinkingEgg

slender vigil
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I waited to long

split hearth
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That pc cost me a lot, I built it when Ryzen first launch and minning craze was happening too

slender vigil
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Btw I’m 12 😂🤣

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Most 12 year olds are not into the virtual machines server coding stuff

split hearth
slender vigil
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About 13 tho birthday on 28th this month

ancient crystal
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it's good to see kids getting into it early, you can learn so much when you're young, because your brain is like a sponge

midnight summit
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U know more than me

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And I’m a college student 😔

ancient crystal
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your brain is probably still a sponge, never too late

midnight summit
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Underwater basket weaving major

ancient crystal
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lol

next ginkgo
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that's an actual class at UC Berkeley

midnight summit
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Biochem with focus on environmental maintenance 😔

slender vigil
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It’s probably rare tho for people my age wanting to learn about this stuff

midnight summit
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A lot of people your age look at things they see that can run like fortnite and call it a day

slender vigil
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Fortnite should die

ancient crystal
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it isn't that rare, i wanted to learn when i was much younger than you but the PC building magazines advertising the new Cyrix 486 basically shut it down for me because it was too expensive

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building PCs is cheaper now

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than it was in the 90s

midnight summit
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An actual ad for an actual pc in my area

slender vigil
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Well ye long time ago but kids my age probably are playing fortnite and smashing there desks

midnight summit
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I wish that was a joke

next ginkgo
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is building PCs cheaper now? i guess my expectations have just gone up, cause i remember building them for like $600 and now it seems like they are like $1000+

midnight summit
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And I wish that didn’t translate into my gen

ancient crystal
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but when, Keegan?

slender vigil
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I wish fortnite was wiped from history

next ginkgo
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idk i guess mid-2000s

ancient crystal
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i'm talking about the 90s, it was absurdly expensive then

next ginkgo
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ah

slender vigil
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A kid on twitter smashed his monitor when the black hole happened

next ginkgo
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i only built one computer in the 90s and i don't even remember

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lol

ancient crystal
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Lian-Li were the kings of cases and the cases cost about $300

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mid 90s

midnight summit
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Bet his parents bought him a new one that day

next ginkgo
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i think my first real computer was in a cheap cooler master

ancient crystal
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genX parents are really generous to their kids

next ginkgo
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but i had one before that that was just in some generic case my dad probably picked up at work

slender vigil
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Fortnite is bad game for kids, they play to much of it get bad grades, do stupid dances, and talk about it all day

midnight summit
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You mean genZ?

next ginkgo
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like one of those beige cases that were all the same

midnight summit
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Isn’t that the term or am I getting them mixed up

ancient crystal
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no the parents themselves are genX

midnight summit
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Oh

next ginkgo
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made of like 1/4" steel or something, they were so heavy

midnight summit
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I see what you mean now

ancient crystal
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zoomers' parents are genXers

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typically

slender vigil
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I’m pretty sure I’m gen z idfk

ancient crystal
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yes you are

midnight summit
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Yeah, I’m a gen z but my brother is a gen x

dreamy dragonBOT
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Swift#4102 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

midnight summit
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It’s weird how little of a gap there is between us though

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Clowned on

slender vigil
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I forgot which gen made music crap

ancient crystal
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i get called an Xennial because i'm not quite old enough to be genX but i share cultural stuff with genX despite being a part of the millenial generation

midnight summit
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Rap music is good in some cases, I’ll just lay that out there, in case you’re referring to that

ancient crystal
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nobody made music bad, they just made it different

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rap is as old as the mid 70s

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there were a lot of funk songs that are now considered early rap

midnight summit
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Modern rap is good in some cases

slender vigil
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There’s one gen that everyone hates idk maybe I’m wrong but I’m pretty sure there is

midnight summit
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I’ll say that

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Millennials or gen z are pretty good targets

slender vigil
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Yes millennials

midnight summit
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I hear those more than anything

ancient crystal
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the boomers hate the millennials

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we're getting super OT also

slender vigil
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I was trying to remember how to spell millennials, most gen x also hate them

midnight summit
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My brother I guess is a millennial, I must be mixed up but yeah he works like 15 hours OT sometimes

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On just like one project, not even like over a week

slender vigil
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Millennials ruined stuff in my opinion

midnight summit
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He’s in IT though so I guess that makes sense

ancient crystal
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you can have an opinion about that when you're 30

midnight summit
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Millennial’d

slender vigil
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Anni I already have a for sure opinion they made crap music

midnight summit
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My uni pays for everything I do so I’m not trippin about the Econ too much just yet

ancient crystal
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you don't listen to enough music, Swift

slender vigil
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I listen to a lot of music, link me to a few see if I like them

midnight summit
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The only job I’ve had paid like 15$/hr on a normal day

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In FL

slender vigil
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Rn from what I heard 70 80s and old country is very good imo

midnight summit
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I’m getting the modern day equivalent to being a boomer

slender vigil
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Also 50s

midnight summit
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Country sounds like pots and pans banging together to me

slender vigil
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The new or old one ?

midnight summit
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Both

slender vigil
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New is auto tune crap

midnight summit
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Old had more soul but I still can’t listen to it

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And actual lyrics

slender vigil
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Atleast someone agrees

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Lmao

midnight summit
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Still can’t put myself to listen to it

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I respect it

slender vigil
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Lemme link you to a few songs

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In dms

midnight summit
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Please I’ll die

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I listen to Joji like a good genZ boy

ancient crystal
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hey Swift i'll post a song in general-chat for you alright?

slender vigil
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Alr

summer peak
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👋

ancient crystal
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hi

lone pond
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hi

loud cypress
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SLI 1080ti gtx... too much?

ancient crystal
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SLI is terrible throw that idea out the window buy the best single card you can buy

loud cypress
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ah too late already have it lol

ancient crystal
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well have fun

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SLI performance can be pretty bad, you see, compared to a modern card

loud cypress
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why is sli such a bad thing now? it was the world a few years ago

ancient crystal
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frame pacing

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stuttering

loud cypress
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I wouldnt call 1080ti that out dated, their not 20's..

ancient crystal
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using too much power

summer peak
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most games don't even support SLI

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like at all

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they'll just use one card

ancient crystal
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1080tix2 compared to a 2080Ti or Super the new card is going to win

summer peak
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thankfully 1080ti is still fine as a single card

loud cypress
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So sell the second? move to another pc?

summer peak
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honestly I'd sell both and get a 2080 super

ancient crystal
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yes that

loud cypress
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hmm

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maybe I'll upgrade once the new case shows and I rebuild

ancient crystal
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selling both is like the best idea possible though, please do keep that in mind, it'll do you a world of good

loud cypress
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I likely willw hen I get the snowblind haha

abstract monolith
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Does the rtx series burn out fairly quickly?

lone pond
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nope

lone pond
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in my experience they usually burn up in about 20-30 minutes

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in my fireplace at least

cinder gust
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I'm also interested in opinions of the RTX series. I've got a old 7850 I'm wanting to upgrade but doesn't make sense for me to invest too much with the rest of the rig just as old.

tender mulch
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They are meh and I have one. Money better spent on 5700XT for 1440p and VR right now

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Go 2080 if you want to do 4K gaming

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2070 series if you want to stream and game for NVENC

slender vigil
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If you want Gsync and stream go with RTX if you don’t want to do those go with 5700XT if your 1440p

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I just ordered my RTX 2070 s

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4K I think is unnecessary

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I don’t see the point in 4K rn I’m using 1800p and it’s good

cinder gust
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I'll probably focus of higher end components when I eventually build a whole new rig. I just have a typical 24" 60 hz 1080p monitor right now

slender vigil
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Oh I was wrong 1080p ye but ye I have 1080p 144 Hz

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And it looks hella nice

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I’m focusing on parts rn

cinder gust
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very interesting

slender vigil
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I need to switch from this stuff

cinder gust
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from my limited research the rx570 is the bang for buck card for 1080p right now. A 580 can be found for about $20-$30 more if you find a sale. I tend to stick with saphire but the best prices seem to be for XFX. Anything thoughts on that brand?

slender vigil
cinder gust
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Seems solid. Hope you can pull it off. I stopped making wish lists, always depresses me more, lol If me still running a nearly 8 year old card is any indication, upgrades and new builds are a rare opportunity for me. I Honestly probably wouldn't even be looking now if it wasn't for running out of vram playing Jedi Fallen order.

slender vigil
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I already got the graphics card

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Ordered it yesterday

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Got one of the ssds

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So far got 2 of the stuff

fast isle
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p\

wicked hound
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@slender vigil Samsung is a waste of money unless you need their pro series, or their 4tb QVO SSD.

slender vigil
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I already had the 860 evo

wicked hound
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Sabrent Rocket for 1tb NVMe
Crucial MX500 for SATA

lone pond
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samsung ssd=overpriced shet

slender vigil
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I just need high ssd speeds

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Idc what the brand is

lone pond
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look for crucial

slender vigil
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Alright

lone pond
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they have good ssd prices while keeping quick

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its also m. 2 nvme

wicked hound
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Eh, crucial is often priced at NVMe prices

lone pond
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yah

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its good tho

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crucial is nvme

wicked hound
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Sabrent Rocket is Evo Plus level and is usually the cheapest one in that level of perf. $120 for 1tb

lone pond
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the prices have dropped

spice prawn
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imo, the upside to crucial is their 5 year warranty vs 3 year on some of the other similar priced drives.

midnight summit
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This guy on my marketplace is selling his 2080ti bc he’s going to SLI 2 1080ti’s 😔

slender vigil
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He’s dumb

midnight summit
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He is

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1k for the 2080 tho

slender vigil
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The 2080 ti is better and future proof

novel shoal
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Is there something I'm not seeing in regards to the 5500xt? Why would you pay almost $220 for one of these when you could spend about the same on a 1660?

spice prawn
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ram amount is part of the conversation @novel shoal

granite juniper
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@novel shoal it’s overpriced, not gonna lie. But also the 1660 is around $210, but the 1660S is $230 for almost 1660 ti performance

wicked hound
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5500XT is basically 1650S levels in perf. 1650S is about $160 and you get CUDA + NVENC

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Also note, 1650S and 1660 are pretty close in perf.

lone pond
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Which ones is better rx 590 or gtx 1660 ti?

wicked hound
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1660S is the best for the price. About 1% lower in perf than 1660Ti for $50 less

lone pond
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Oh thanks

granite juniper
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^

slender vigil
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No

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Get a Radeon 5700 XT if you don’t stream or if your stream you should pick RTX 2070 s or higher

lone pond
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Is the 1650S decent for VR?

cerulean rover
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Don't think so

lone pond
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rip

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Just gonna get a used rx 580 then

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easy wi

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n

gray vapor
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You'd be able to do VR with a 1650S

lone pond
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but do I really wanna pay the extra 100 bucks for a new 1650S

gray vapor
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used 580 could also have problems and a voided/no warranty

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Also could have mining bios in it

lone pond
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According to seller it's listed as "like new" and I can get a Squaretrade warranty with it

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From Vietnam and it's the only one in stock, been up for no time at all

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I offered an extra 10 bucks (total 100 now) for him to hold it for me and he said sure lol

gray vapor
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Good chance you will get it in like 30 days and the warranty will be expired

lone pond
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Yooo

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wait

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Zotac has a 1650S at B&H Photo for 160 bucks

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says coming soon

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hold on

gray vapor
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160 here as well

lone pond
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Oh wow

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God Bless Zotac

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I was gonna get their 1060 6gb when it was 150 but it went off sale and is in the 300s again

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which upsets me

gray vapor
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and there is free shipping

lone pond
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oOOh

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ty ecks

gray vapor
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np

lone pond
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WAITWAITWAITWAIT

gray vapor
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You know this is kind of funny

lone pond
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?

gray vapor
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AMD says the RX 5500 is 6% better than the 1650S from this chart

lone pond
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uh oh

gray vapor
lone pond
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I wonder if they OC'd it to top other cards

gray vapor
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You do see the shipping cost right

lone pond
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I am aware

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Still looking around tho

tender mulch
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For that just get a new one

lone pond
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Might stick to the 1650S just bc it is newer

tender mulch
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RX580 outperforms it in most benchmarks

gray vapor
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@lone pond look in the benchmark chart as well

tender mulch
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$160 for a new RX580

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oops

lone pond
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yeah but I have a guy that can get me $100 for a barely used rx 580

gray vapor
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Um you see in that CoD benchmark the 1650 Super does better

lone pond
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I'm super low budget rn but I want the most out of my cash

tender mulch
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Oh the super

gray vapor
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So 160 for a 580 that performs a little worst than a 1650S for the same price

tender mulch
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I was looking at 1650 plain

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my bad

lone pond
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very suspicious

gray vapor
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That is most likely a 560 Ti

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or a 460

sinful bobcat
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Lol yeah that looks safe

lone pond
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560 Ti lol

gray vapor
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Give Mike the link he needs a new GPU lol

lone pond
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lol

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Is $110 for a 3gb gtx 1060 good?

gray vapor
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no

tender mulch
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Don't go 3GB

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6 gb min

lone pond
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I'm trying not to

sinful bobcat
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Pffff. I'm rocking a 1080 ti. I'm golden

weary kayak
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2060 right here

gray vapor
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zoch just look at the benchmark chart i posted

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Mike says 1080 Ti but really it is a 980 Ti 😛

tender mulch
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Yeah, I have a 2060 also and regret not waiting for the 5700. RT on the 2060 is OOF

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But everythi9ng else is butter

weary kayak
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I just wanted the ability

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but then

lone pond
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Ngl I'd love to dip for a 980 ti

tender mulch
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Yeah, ability is wasted on the 2060

lone pond
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but they're still like 200 bucks

gray vapor
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I have no regrets with me 1660

lone pond
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250*

weary kayak
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rAy TrAcInG oN nOn RtX

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cards

tender mulch
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FPS hit is too huge

lone pond
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you can ray trace on non rtx wdym

weary kayak
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yeah

lone pond
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1060 6gb is the minimum

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Ohh I see what you're saying now

gray vapor
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You can but it is not advised to do so

lone pond
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you got the 2060 for ray tracing and then Nvidia crapped on you

weary kayak
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yah

gray vapor
lone pond
gray vapor
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Dood just got for the 1650S on newegg

weary kayak
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what in h-e-double heck is that

lone pond
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it's chinese technology

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😎

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wait they want a minimum of 101 freaking gpus

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CURSE YOU WHOLESALE

gray vapor
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Only like Chinese company for GPU i would trust is Yeston

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With their Waifu edition RX 5700 XT lol

lone pond
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Kik

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Lol*

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I saw that on GamersNexus and it was beautiful\

ancient crystal
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that looks legit, like a pull from a prebuilt

granite juniper
lone pond
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Which company does the best 1650 super?

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@ancient crystal exactly what it is

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@granite juniper 👀

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Just wanna say that these are mining gpus definitely so im gonna yeet this out my idea

📎 unknown.png
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but that 1060 is lookin pretty tempting\

granite juniper
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probably the gaming x, but wouldn't really pay the $20 extra over the zotac or ventus

lone pond
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Makes sense

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Wb EVGA?

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I can get a $10 rebate on it, making it the same price as the Zotac one (not including 4 bucks shipping)

granite juniper
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evga has nice cards

lone pond
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annnnd nvm theyre outta stock on newegg

granite juniper
lone pond
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I always forget to check reddit

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🤦‍♂️

dim aspen
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I have a GTX 1060 that I'm currently working on. LULULW

lone pond
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That one is sold @granite juniper

granite juniper
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hardwareswap is a great place, ask @daring minnow

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ahh

lone pond
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just gonna make a looking for post

granite juniper
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yeah

dim aspen
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Anyone know about flashing a GPU bios?

granite juniper
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but yeah i'd check ebay, reddit, and local markets

lone pond
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Craigslist is bad for me because my area is full of a bunch of dumb people who don't do pc stuff

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:(

granite juniper
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ic

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just never give up, i finally snagged a strix 1070 ti for just under 230 with only 1 other bid :), you'll find the card eventually

dim aspen
#

@granite juniper I got my 1070 by trading a xbox one 😛 got super lucky

granite juniper
#

oh nice

dim aspen
#

At the time, my 970 had just died, so I needed a new card 😛

granite juniper
#

i had to sell my xbox, but i only lost $20 with the game because i bought it on black friday and sold fh4 for $3 more than i bought it

lone pond
#

Sadly he wants to sell within the next few days but I'm sure I'll find some other people out there

granite juniper
#

those are some pretty good usernames ngl

#

but yeah thats a pretty solid deal

lone pond
#

Yeah lol
I've always gone by comrade pancake, although I need to switch to Pancake Premier so that I can have a future without being tagged as a commie

cold stream
lone pond
#

W

#

W W W W W WE W

daring minnow
#

you can occasionally get Vega 56's on ebay for $165

#

and 1070's for $the same price too

#

i bought two the other day for $140

#

you shouldnt be paying more than $100 for a GTX 1060

lone pond
#

Dear god

lone pond
#

@daring minnow what do you do with all of those cards anyways?

#

Does anyone know which one has better cooling

summer peak
#

neither

#

they're both terrible

lone pond
#

XFX is trash with cooling

summer peak
#

there's a reason that they're selling them so cheap

#

they're trying to clear stock

slow salmon
#

alright so...i kinda need assistance

lone pond
#

If you fix fan curves the temp goes down a lot

#

Ye

slow salmon
#

so I’m interested in buying a graphics card but i’m looking around my power supply and i can’t find the 6 pin cable to connect to the gpu

#

is there anywhere specific i should be looking?

summer peak
#

almost all of the 5700xt coolers suck. Stick to sapphire or powercolor for the 5700xt.

#

@slow salmon it may not have one

#

what power supply do you have

lone pond
#

or even get the xfx one and find a liquid cooler

slow salmon
#

not sure what brand but I know it’s 500 watts +80

#

if that’s any help.

summer peak
#

that means nothing

#

I need to know the exact model

slow salmon
#

yea sorry, i’m new to all this stuff 😅

summer peak
#

can you take a picture of it? does it have a label?

lone pond
#

If it says hp or is an ugly silver color BUY A NEW ONE

summer peak
#

more than just that

slow salmon
#

it’s a thermaltake smart series power supply

lone pond
#

Oh

#

oh no

summer peak
#

you need a new one

lone pond
#

it's the one I ordered

#

and i've heard horrible things about it lol

#

is it 80+ white? (or 80+, 80+ basic)

summer peak
#

80+ is just an efficiency rating

#

it says nothing about the quality of the psu

#

you really will want to replace that psu

#

before you even get a graphics card

slow salmon
#

how much do they go for?

lone pond
#

like 45 bucks

summer peak
#

a better power supply?

lone pond
#

O

slow salmon
#

yea

summer peak
#

what's your system like

lone pond
#

a better PSU would be like 60 bucks

#

maybe 70

summer peak
#

what cpu do you have, what gpu are you looking at

slow salmon
#

well i’m buying the Zotac GTX 1060 on thursday

lone pond
#

Get a 600w

summer peak
#

there's too much noise in here

lone pond
#

evga or corsair

summer peak
#

what CPU do you have

slow salmon
#

ryzen 3

lone pond
#

What exact ryzen 3

summer peak
#

get this

slow salmon
#

AMD RYZEN 3 3200G WITH RADEON RX VEGA 8 GRAPHICS 3.6GHZ (QUAD CORE)

upbeat reef
#

2200g?

summer peak
#

it's fine for a 3200g and a 1060

lone pond
#

500 watt sounds safe tbh

#

Yeah

#

450 is good, too, but you wanna consider future upgrades imo

#

get visi's reccomendation

summer peak
#

those are fairly low power parts

#

Yeah but I assume he wants the cheapest he can get with a build like that

lone pond
#

ig

#

True

summer peak
#

not everyone can blow 100 on a psu

slow salmon
#

so you’d recommend a new power supply but with a 1060 it’s fine?

lone pond
#

I got that TT PSU so I'm still worried about it catching fire a day into using it

slow salmon
#

not long term obviously

summer peak
#

No, I'd recommend the new PSU before you get the 1060

#

period

#

do not use the thermaltake smart

#

you're asking for a fire

lone pond
#

My question is

summer peak
#

the thermaltake smart might be okay for just the apu

lone pond
#

if the PSU, without modifications, catches fire and destroys something, could you technically sue them

summer peak
#

(the cpu with the integrated graphics)

#

but before you get a gpu definitely get a new psu

lone pond
#

or at least request them to replace damaged items

summer peak
#

the thing about power supplies is that they're tricky

#

wattage tells you nothing, the efficiency rating tells you nothing

#

you need to know what parts its made from -- what protections it has, how it handles different load types, etc

#

and they don't tell you that in the specs

slow salmon
#

alright, my budget is $260

summer peak
#

for a gpu and psu?

slow salmon
#

yes

#

the gpu is $200

#

and the one you recommended is $40

lone pond
#

I'd say get a used GPU and then you could get a better PSU and still have left over cash

#

I found some really good gtx 1060 6gb by PNY on Reddit for 140 bucks. Just paid the invoice.

slow salmon
#

i think my biggest issue is that i bought a pre-built pc

lone pond
#

yup

slow salmon
#

this any good?

daring minnow
#

@lone pond i build and sell computers

#

thats why i buy so many cards

lone pond
#

Oh cool

summer peak
#

get these

#

don't get the BR

#

the cx is far better

lone pond
#

1060>1650

#

in performance at least

summer peak
#

that's the 1650 super

lone pond
#

even then

summer peak
#

it outperforms it

#

you don't know what you're talking about

lone pond
#

By how much??

summer peak
#

it depends on the game, but he's planning to pay 200 for a 1060

lone pond
#

Oh yikes

#

yeah get the 1650s

summer peak
#

so getting more performance for less money

#

just a quick search

slow salmon
#

i just wanna play gta

#

and rust

lone pond
#

That's a big difference

summer peak
#

what I linked you is within your budget and will perform better

#

get it

lone pond
#

^

#

or get the Zotac 1650S

summer peak
#

the zotac fan is a bit iffy but you can save a bit more with it yes

lone pond
#

tru

#

I don't understand why companies don't know how to make better fans without changing the cost by much. Seriously, it'd put another like 5 bucks on the overall cost of production

summer peak
#

either way, I've said my piece -- get the cx450 and the 1650 super and you won't regret it. The cx is a safe PSU. The 1650 super outperforms the 1060 for less than you were planning to pay for it.

lone pond
#

Wait

#

Is that the 1060 6gb or 1060 3gb in that vid

#

lemme peep

#

yikes

#

6gb

slow salmon
#

is the zotac 1650s any good?

summer peak
#

it's fine

#

it will run a little hotter

#

it's not unsafe

lone pond
#

same card, really, just the cooling isn't as nice

dense flicker
#

1650s in general arent too great

#

¯_(ツ)_/¯

summer peak
#

for his budget it's the best option

dense flicker
#

oh wait

summer peak
#

he's matching it with a ryzen apu too

dense flicker
#

i thought u meant plural of 1650

#

nvm

lone pond
#

bruh

slow salmon
summer peak
#

It's good.

#

The CX series is all fine.

slow salmon
#

alright

summer peak
#

You can save a bit of money by going with the 450, but

#

if you want to spend a bit more the 550 is a good bet too

lone pond
#

After being told about the 1650S i'm debating actually paying this invoice or being a d-bag and just ignoring his messages

📎 unknown.png
#

Is it worth the $10 difference

summer peak
#

I'd say so

lone pond
#

But should I really be a d-bag here?

summer peak
#

I mean, you can see the benchmarks

#

that's up to you

lone pond
#

I asked if he could hold it to Christmas and he can refund me if I don't need it

#

wait

summer peak
#

but 140 for a PNY 1060 is...

#

oof

granite juniper
#

just say like "sorry i found a different gpu, thanks for the offers and good luck selling :)"

lone pond
#

I can just lie and say my dad got me a gpu

#

and then buy the 1650s

#

@granite juniper I

#

oof

#

should I play it off as my dad getting me a gpu (he wont)

#

or should I just straight up say it now

summer peak
#

Just tell him the truth tbh

slow salmon
#

so the cx. does it include the 6 pin cable to connect it to the gpu?

summer peak
#

he might be upset about it but

wicked hound
#

tbh he should know that selling a 1060 for $140 is bad

lone pond
#

Alright, I'll DM him asap

summer peak
#

@slow salmon the cx450 contains one 6pin pcie, the cx550 contains 2 6+2 iirc

wicked hound
#

I mean RX480 is $90

summer peak
#

fixed that statement

slow salmon
#

so if I get the cx550 I should be able to connect to my gpu just fine?

summer peak
#

both would with the 1650 super but yes, the cx550 is a bit more future proof if you upgrade in the future

slow salmon
#

would you recommend the gtx 1060 though?

summer peak
#

no

wicked hound
#

550w is good for anything but a really high end consumer system (3700x and 2080Ti is like 600w total)

summer peak
#

especially not for 200 dollars

#

get the 1650 super

#

it outperforms the 1060 by a good bit

slow salmon
#

i want to buy a gpu off of newegg i kinda really need it before christmas

wicked hound
#

RX480 for $90 or 1650S for $160

#

1060 for $100, no more what so ever

lone pond
#

rx 480 has some good deals online

#

Found some for 80 bucks on ebay last week

#

Think this will suffice, guys?

granite juniper
#

yeah probably

dreamy dragonBOT
#
Nuclear Nachos#9402 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

lone pond
#

f

granite juniper
#

:v

wicked hound
#

I mean that's fine. Tho as a note, you can be a bit harsher

summer peak
#

I don't see why not -- don't be too bothered if he throws a curse at you or whatever -- some people are just never happy with how you say you've changed your mind

lone pond
#

I mean he sold 2 already

#

He had like 3 of em

wicked hound
#

Sellers should know about GPU releases most of the time

lone pond
#

Yeha

#

yeah*

#

I gotta go shower

slow salmon
#

is an MSI gtx 1050 ti worth it?

summer peak
#

alright

lone pond
#

I'll see ya guys later

summer peak
#

worth it at what price

lone pond
#

dont go for 1050 ti

summer peak
#

I personally wouldn't recommend the 1050ti

granite juniper
#

@slow salmon probably not, what price

slow salmon
#

$180

lone pond
#

LOL

summer peak
#

absolutely not

#

wtf

lone pond
#

Yeah no

summer peak
#

maybe for like 50 dollars

wicked hound
#

^

summer peak
#

seriously

lone pond
#

you'd be better getting a 980 ti for 250

summer peak
#

just get the 1650 super and the cx550

#

you'll be happy

#

I feel like you're trolling me

wicked hound
#

maybe less, cuz I wouldnt be surprised of 470 was $70

slow salmon
#

why are all these stuff so over priced, i don’t get it.

lone pond
#

1050 ti is only expensive because it's in the 10 hundred series and has "ti" on it

#

change my mind

wicked hound
#

actually because Nvidia

lone pond
#

lol

#

valid

slow salmon
#

@summer peak I promise you i’m not trolling, i’m just trying ball on a budget

summer peak
#

you're looking at worse cards that are more expensive than the 1650 super I linked you

#

wtf

#

"budget"

#

I'm out

#

I did what I can for you

#

you won't listen

slow salmon
#

but the 1650 super isn’t on newegg that’s my issue

summer peak
#

yes it is

lone pond
summer peak
#

did you even look

slow salmon
#

i stand corrected. 😅 I checked and it said sold out. there’s just so many models and stuff. must’ve gotten confused. sorry about that

#

alright so here’s what we’re looking like

summer peak
#

Look, I'm sorry if I'm being an ass -- it's just that the things you're saying are completely baffling to somebody that knows this sort of thing. The 1050ti is like half of the performance of the 1650 super and you were looking at paying more for it than the 1650 super

fallen schooner
#

visi wise

#

calm down visi

summer peak
#

I just did

wicked hound
#

wise visi

fallen schooner
#

woosaaa

wicked hound
#

calm up visi

fallen schooner
#

play nice hei

slow salmon
#

it’s fine! I understand it must be frustrating.

wicked hound
#

awwwww

#

fiinneeee

fallen schooner
#

🙂

#

dankeeeee

granite juniper
#

:V

slow salmon
#

so I sent the picture, everything seems to be in order?

summer peak
#

Yeah, that looks good to me.

fallen schooner
#

visi seal of approval

#

you did gud

summer peak
#

You won't regret it, that's a pretty impressive 1080p machine

fallen schooner
#

.>

granite juniper
#

PoPcOrN

slow salmon
#

Alright, thanks man. Sorry again for the hassle. Didn’t mean to torment you with my lack of tech knowledge 😅

summer peak
#

No, it's okay, I'm being unreasonable too.

quasi flicker
#

Does anyone know of any 2080s Aorus cards that aren't $800 RN?

summer peak
#

Honestly I'm not in the best mood because of some IRL stuff and that's probably leaking through making me impatient.

fallen schooner
#

Sock, we get trolled a lot 😄

wicked hound
#

just 2070S tho. 2080S is like 8% more perf for $200. @quasi flicker

slow salmon
#

trolled how?

wicked hound
#

or $300 cuz it's $800

fallen schooner
#

in many ways.

quasi flicker
#

$300

fallen schooner
#

lol

summer peak
#

Like asking if 180 is a good deal on a 1050ti

#

for example

#

so my gut reaction was that was a troll

wicked hound
#

calling me a Corsair fanboy

#

cuz I know about PSUs

summer peak
#

btw hei I got my cougar gsx and tested it with my el cheapo tester and it seems rock solid

#

for the price I got it, anyway

wicked hound
#

yee. Good good

slow salmon
#

so I see. Again thanks for everything, i’ve got to head out! y’all have a great rest of your day. @summer peak I hope everything clears up for you IRL

quasi flicker
#

Oh another thing, if a graphics cards reccomened PSU wattage is 650 will I be okay with that if PC part picker says 499 watts?

summer peak
#

yeah, just some problems with work -- didn't get paid when I should have but it's all good

granite juniper
#

yeah

summer peak
#

like I said you won't regret that build

#

@quasi flicker if your PSU is okay you should be fine

wicked hound
#

@quasi flicker recommended PSU wattage is generally a lot higher than it should be cuz it needs to be a safe bet on estimates

summer peak
#

what psu do you have

quasi flicker
#

Oh

granite juniper
#

like you can run a 2080 ti+9900k on a decent 600w psu

wicked hound
#

eh, not OCed at least

quasi flicker
#

Corsair CX650M

summer peak
#

you'll be fine

quasi flicker
#

Okay

ancient crystal
#

my stupid butt bought an RM750

wicked hound
#

I mean rn it's one of the best for the price

#

If bitfenix werent dead tho... I'd call it a bad purchase

granite juniper
#

i mean you can run a 4.7ghz all core, and still be fine

ancient crystal
#

could've gotten away with an RM550/650

#

i was most interested in the amps

#

62 amps on a single rail is a good solid power supply

wicked hound
#

230w (9900k with mild OC) + 375w (2080Ti) + 70w (system)

ancient crystal
#

and you'll want for nothing

#

i think even my R5 2600 with a moderate overclock will probably run wonderfully wtihin 150W

#

EPS12V power is provided by the RM series too

#

whereas the CXM series i noticed it isn't

wicked hound
#

probably more like 120 - 130w tbh

ancient crystal
#

that's why i said "within", was unsure of the exact number

wicked hound
#

but yee, CXM is bad cuz it whines

#

fan/coil whine

ancient crystal
#

never heard coil whine

#

consider myself fortunate

#

i had a really old CX750 I bought on ebay

#

it was one of those old ones with the "football" font on it

wicked hound
#

cx or cxm?

ancient crystal
#

just CX

wicked hound
#

cxm is the bad one, cx isnt.
Dont know much about old cx tho

ancient crystal
#

well it didn't deliver the power it said it would lol

#

tried to give it to a friend because i had a perfectly good power supply

wicked hound
#

12v rail not 750w I guess?

ancient crystal
#

12v rail was the full like 60-something amps one rail

#

the power supply was just aging

#

it was from the days before corsair stuff had utilitarian aesthetics and looked good

#

i dunno when exactly that is but it's more than 8 years ago

wicked hound
#

yee. I have an old PSU that couldnt do its wattage. Couldnt handle a 90w CPU and whatever wattage 1070Ti is

#

was 800w PSU

ancient crystal
#

also the color of printing on it was bronze

#

it was really weird looking

#

but it was no doubt a CX750

wicked hound
#

yee, probably 2012 CX series

ancient crystal
#

the font is yelling SPORTS in your face

stable imp
#

Is there any cpu that I can go with a 5700 xt that is not a 3700x?

ancient crystal
#

that text is great

stable imp
#

Ans still get the full potential of the GPU

ancient crystal
#

3600

stable imp
#

Is the 3600x overkill?

#

I mean the 3700x

wicked hound
#

3600 loses a bit in 1080p perf, but why would you do 1080p on a 5700XT anyways?

stable imp
#

I would do 2k

wicked hound
#

also not noticeable on 1080p FPS anyways

stable imp
#

So would a 3600x be balanced?

wicked hound
#

and QHD perf of 3600 and 3700x is basically the same

stable imp
#

I want 0 bottlenecks

wicked hound
#

impossible. All PCs have bottlenecks

stable imp
#

Should have corrected myself sooner

#

Sad my wpm is 60

wicked hound
#

but anyways, 3600 vs 3600x//3700x vs 3800x are basically the same due to PB2 and PBO

stable imp
#

Alright this is just opinion

#

Should I go with 3600x just so it lasts longer?

summer peak
#

I use my rx 5700 with my 2600 so I'd imagine the 3600 is fine with the 5700xt

stable imp
#

Or is that just a waste

summer peak
#

the 3600x is kind of a waste

#

the 3600 is already unlocked

#

the x variant is just factory OC'd

stable imp
#

All amd cups are

#

Cpus

summer peak
#

yeah but why pay for it, is my point

wicked hound
#

PB2 basically makes up for factory OC

#

perf is practically the same

stable imp
#

Well a 3600 is clocked at what 3.6 ghz?

wicked hound
#

PB2 is like GPU boost

summer peak
#

the X is just factory overclocked

#

it's literally the same chip

#

you can overclock it yourself

stable imp
#

I want to overclock it to 4.3 ghz at the most

wicked hound
#

GPU boost looks at voltage and temps then OCs
PB2 does the same

stable imp
#

I'm not sure if this is a good cooler though

tender mulch
#

Ye

#

that's a great AIO

stable imp
#

Alright so I should be able to overclock to 4.3 ghz no problem?

ancient crystal
#

isn't the fractal cooler good too? i was looking at it and i liked the aesthetic of it better than i like RGB

#

even though the price is barely different

#

there's like one cooler

#

in 240mm and 360mm rad size

summer peak
#

what, the celsius?

#

It's fine

ancient crystal
#

yeah

stable imp
#

Oh another question

#

Whenever I try to update drivers for motherboard

#

It does not work

wicked hound
#

fractal may have higher failure tho. Remember looking at reviews of 360mm one

stable imp
#

Do I have to use a usb ?

tender mulch
#

Define does not work

ancient crystal
#

Hei i'll keep that in mind

stable imp
#

Wait

wicked hound
#

I havent done real research on it tho @ancient crystal

stable imp
#

I should go to a different channel for the question I have

ancient crystal
#

I have a define case and it's wonderful

summer peak
#

All I can do is say that I'm using a celsius and I've had no issues with the 240mm

stable imp
#

Alr thanks guys

ancient crystal
#

did you put it up top, Visi?

summer peak
#

I'm using it in my server

#

yeah it's on top

ancient crystal
#

that's the plan i'm going with

#

so much to buy

summer peak
#

get vr and hang out with me like a cool kid in VR EpicEgg

ancient crystal
#

haha

wicked hound
#

But for me I dislike AIO. It's either air cooler or custom

ancient crystal
#

i'm not a cool kid

summer peak
#

sure you are

wicked hound
#

you're in this server

ancient crystal
#

but anyone can be in this server

#

also one more F or S and i'm gonna get kicked lmao

wicked hound
#

that or you arent a kid and maybe you're a cool adult/teen/baby

ancient crystal
#

a baby using a computer?

wicked hound
#

yes

ancient crystal
#

i like this server though and i'm trying to get things so i'm not cursing all the time

#

i've actually caught myself a lot so i feel like i'm getting a handle on it

#

it's extremely hard for me to create or break habits

wicked hound
#

yee. Im lucky in toning down my swearing a long time ago. Legit use to be basically every second word

ancient crystal
#

i don't think it's bad or wrong though

#

i just don't want to do it here

wicked hound
#

Swearing a lot is kinda eh

ancient crystal
#

シット

wicked hound
#

swearing in another language?

ancient crystal
#

not really, it was more of a joke

#

because people don't actually say that

wicked hound
#

two smiley faces decapitated from a body missing both legs and an arm?

ancient crystal
#

yes

#

those are letters that make sounds

#

in japanese they do, anyway

#

i studied that language a lot and i still couldn't speak to a local

normal glade
#

is a Radeon RX 550 2GB for 69.99 worth it?

ancient crystal
#

i'm missing a massive amount of the basics because of using a bad learning tool

#

ooh no

normal glade
#

ooof

ancient crystal
#

i wouldn't pay five dollars for that

normal glade
#

lol thx

ancient crystal
#

i'm being honest

tender mulch
#

No

wicked hound
#

Used RX 470 for probably $70??

ancient crystal
#

the card is very not fast

tender mulch
#

2gb of vram

#

ouch

wicked hound
#

a 570 is two 560 in perf. 550 is less than a 560 obviously

ancient crystal
#

i've used an RX 560 and it was mediocre at best

#

it was board power though

wicked hound
#

eh, 1050Ti or 1650 then tbh

ancient crystal
#

1650 is decent

#

i have one in my actually finished build here now

#

i5-4590 with 16GB DDR3-1600

#

so mediocre

normal glade
#

59.99 for ryzen 2200g worth is right? it has to be

ancient crystal
#

that is a good price

normal glade
#

ok

ancient crystal
#

it's not a great CPU though

#

so be careful of your expectations

normal glade
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im not expeting alot

wicked hound
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decent CPU, not amazing/great

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tho, amazing for its price

ancient crystal
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i had a build with it and it was snappier than this i5 haswell build

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by a lot

normal glade
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for 60 dollar for a gpu and cpu its good because i can slap on a gpu later

ancient crystal
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i'

summer peak
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don't expect too much

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it will bottleneck any sort of higher end gpu

normal glade
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in

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like 1050 ti?

ancient crystal
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no that'll be fine

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1650 will be fine too

normal glade
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1650 vs 1050?

summer peak
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1650 is a lot better

ancient crystal
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you might even get away with a 1650 Super

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i have a 1650 in my current running build

summer peak
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1650 super is double the performance if a 1050 ti

ancient crystal
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and will end up using it for a while

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with my new build

normal glade
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o

summer peak
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but yeah, those are low end cards and should be ok

ancient crystal
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i like the 1650

summer peak
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good for 1080p

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I'm talking upper mid range and up

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something like a 2060 super would be bottlenecked hard by the 2200g for example

ancient crystal
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me: thinks a 5700 is a powerful GPU

summer peak
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it's a decently powerful gpu for sure

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I love my 5700

ancient crystal
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i will also love mine

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first thing i'm getting after i do the build is my M.2 and windows 10 though

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probably RAM and maybe the cooler after that

summer peak
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👍

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VR last 200Sad

ancient crystal
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then the GPU

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and then VR last

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yes

normal glade
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is ram speed 2666 good for ryzen

summer peak
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it's not great

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you want 3200mhz

ancient crystal
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i'd opt for 3200

normal glade
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ok

summer peak
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one sec

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I can link you good ram

normal glade
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ok

ancient crystal
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here comes the ram

normal glade
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how about 3600?

ancient crystal
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3600 is even better but 3200 is good for you, the person on a budget

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because this 3200 is very cheap!

summer peak
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3600 is useless on zen+

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just get this

normal glade
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o thats great

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check this

ancient crystal
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i'm getting this RAM except 32GB in two sticks

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because it's $110

normal glade
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steal

summer peak
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nah

ancient crystal
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no you don't need that, you can save more money on that vulcan stuff

summer peak
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well the price isn't that bad

tender mulch
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EH, that's CL18

summer peak
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but the cas latency is hgih

normal glade
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ik

summer peak
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the one I linked is better

normal glade
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ik thx

tender mulch
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I paid that for my CL16

summer peak
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again, 3600 doesn't benefit you at all on zen+ (2200g)

ancient crystal
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lower latency is superior

summer peak
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your board also probably won't support 3600