#graphics-cards

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ancient crystal
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the 5500XT just looks like a shady deal to me, like a thing you get because you're poor and doesn'

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doesn't really satisfy

runic trail
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The 5700 and 5700XT blew me away for the performance and price

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But this one didn't really.

ancient crystal
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they were trying to target something that was like a 580 in performance

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but then people said it was more like a 570

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RX series, rather

summer peak
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Well, it's important to keep in mind that the 5500xt is targeting a very different market demographic

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it's not meant for you, it's meant for the types of people that play like, league of legends, and overwatch

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at 1080p

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easy to run games

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but no, it isn't like a 570, it's more like a 1650 super

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only one tester I could find got results similar to a 570

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so I have to assume there was some sort of issue either with the card or with thermal throttling in his setup

ancient crystal
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oh

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i like that they're light on power

runic trail
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Wait I think I installed my 2700X CPU cooler wrong..

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I forgot to do a step

ancient crystal
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i have a 1650 right now, the 5700 is currently a dream down the line after a few months of buying other more foundational parts for my system

runic trail
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That might be why the fan throttles up randomly not even under stress.

ancient crystal
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did you miss flipping the black switch on the retention clip

runic trail
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yes

ancient crystal
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heheh

runic trail
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Is it okay or do I need to

ancient crystal
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you can do that easily so you should d oit

runic trail
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Ok I'll do it later since I'm lazy and don't want to unhook my PC from all the cables and then bring it downstairs..

gray vapor
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RX 5500 XT is pretty much a RX 590 that uses less power

ancient crystal
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it's also Navi architecture

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instead of Polaris

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Navi is drastically different than Polaris in how it operates

runic trail
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Also, there are 3 screws that my motherboard couldn't catch onto the case

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They're the bottom right one

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Is it okay to leave it like that?

ancient crystal
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probably, but try to screw it in

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hwen you get a chance

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also the thing with the CPU not properly protected is really bad

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pop that lever

runic trail
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I tried so many times, I even pushed down the motherboard to screw it in but it wouldn't catch

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Just wondering, why is it really bad?

ancient crystal
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you gotta do it still

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because the cooler won't make full contact with full pressure

runic trail
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Oh

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Is that why it ramps up the fan speed?

ancient crystal
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yes

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though it might do that afterwards too

runic trail
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Can I just do it right now?

ancient crystal
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yes

runic trail
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I have carpet flooring

ancient crystal
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unplug your PC

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touch earth (your case) and flip the switch

runic trail
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Ok

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take my feet off my carpet floor?

ancient crystal
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make sure the second tab is on first

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you're fine if you touch metal first

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and do it every now and then

runic trail
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What second tab? There are 2 but one on the left, one on the right

ancient crystal
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yes

runic trail
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Which one is the 2nd?

ancient crystal
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put the one without a switch on first

runic trail
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ok

ancient crystal
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then the one with a switch on second

runic trail
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If it's locked on already, can I latch down the black lever?

ancient crystal
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yes

runic trail
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Okay

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See you later 😛

ancient crystal
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i always build entire PCs on carpet, i am the absolute worst

summer peak
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oh no

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anni plz

runic trail
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Wait do I pull the black lever up or down?

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@ancient crystal

ancient crystal
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i dunno see which one locks it

runic trail
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ok

ancient crystal
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i'm not looking at it so like

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i can't tell you

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make it so the flat, not the angled part of the switch is facing upward

runic trail
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I made it go down

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and I heard a click

ancient crystal
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is your cooler comfortably seated on

runic trail
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how do I find out?

ancient crystal
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are the tabs and stuff in there tight

runic trail
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let me check

ancient crystal
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like are the clips pulling on the tabs

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i'm gonna get a cooler that operates like this for my R5 2600 because i hate AM4 mounts more than anything

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AM3 mounting style 4-lyfe

runic trail
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when I lightly pull the cooler, the cooler doesn't move

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is that good

ancient crystal
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yes

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it doesn't rotate or anything right

runic trail
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no

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I turned it on, checking if it's good now

ancient crystal
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okay you have success congratulation a winner is you

runic trail
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😀

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it ramped up when I booted

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is that normal

ancient crystal
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it is

runic trail
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ok

ancient crystal
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it should change afterward

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like in windows

runic trail
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yup

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ok logging in

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I'm gonna keep the side panel open

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how can I test if it's okay?

ancient crystal
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that's actually not recommended

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it's okay by your description

runic trail
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👌

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the black lever clipped underneath a heat pipe

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is that how it is?

ancient crystal
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well it should flip all the way to one side

runic trail
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it still randomly ramps up and it vibrates my side panel

ancient crystal
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maybe it is not a great cooler

runic trail
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I mean it's a stick cooler

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stock*

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probably gonna upgrade the cooler then the graphics card

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or vise versa?

ancient crystal
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cooler is cheap

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a hyper T2 or hyper 212 evo at least imo are both very good choices

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my CPU is 65W so i'm just gonna use the T2

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i used a hyper 212 evo to cool an FX-8350 and it worked very smoothly and that was one of the hottest running CPUs

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i got temps in the 40s/50s idling which is good for that thing

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and it never got higher than 80 under load

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which for that chip, was okay

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because the Tj. Max was about 100 degrees

river cosmos
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Hey can anyone help me shoes a graphics card

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Chose*

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These are my parts so far

summer peak
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what's your budget?

sudden forge
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PowerColor Red Dragon AMD Radeon RX570 8GB GDDR5

Get this card

summer peak
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only if you're on a really tight budget tbh

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also replace that 2700x with a ryzen 5 3600 tbh

sudden forge
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I mean he hasn't really mentioned his budget or goals. I just bought that card for a friend who was running like a GTX 950 and needed an upgrade.

summer peak
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well that's why I asked his budget but he went MIA

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¯_(ツ)_/¯

odd pendant
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Hi all

cerulean rover
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hey

odd pendant
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Bought a 2060 super new a couple weeks back and I think its failing now

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:(

cerulean rover
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symptoms?

odd pendant
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What can I do?

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It crashes all games when it tries to do full load

cerulean rover
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you can file a RMA with the manufacturer

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did you OC it?

odd pendant
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Nope

cerulean rover
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Your ram is of good quality?

odd pendant
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PC ram? I dont see what's wrong with it.

cerulean rover
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I had issues with my ram, my games kept crashing, task manager showed a spike in GPU, but when I lowered my ram XMP profile, everything was fine

odd pendant
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May not be the best but I hope it's not the problem

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Huh.

cerulean rover
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test that rq

odd pendant
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How so

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Turn xmp off?

cerulean rover
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Are you running on default profile?

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there should be a lower profile

odd pendant
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Didnt check so afaik not sure

cerulean rover
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try that, if that doesn't work, you can file a RMA with the manufactorer

odd pendant
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All right

cerulean rover
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what company made it?

odd pendant
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Tried live chat with nvidia and servers aren't working

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Gigabyte

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Gaming OC 8G

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What a mess my dude lmao

cerulean rover
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Ima try and help

odd pendant
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Here's hoping I can get it replaced/repaired

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Thank you I appreciate it

cerulean rover
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@odd pendant you did try updating drivers n stuff right

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I just looked through how gigabyte is doing their support, I'm not finding a place I can file a RMA ticket, so you might have to use their esupport thing

odd pendant
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Ye updated with geforce experience

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All right

cerulean rover
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I have MSI so idrk how its gonna work

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Just tell them your graphics card is crashing your games, you have updated drivers, and all your other components were tested to be fine

odd pendant
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Thank you!

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What a mess. Was hoping I'd never have technical issues like this. Never have before

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I always bought used. This time I bought stuff new and this happens

cerulean rover
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Don't expect it to end in one ticket, they'll likely want you to try and fix it before they give you an RMA, so be stern in follow ups

odd pendant
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All right

cerulean rover
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Well Bio I have the exact opposite experience, everything I bought used had some sort of crippling issue, everything I bought new worked just fine lol

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I got a used mobo, came missing wifi antenna, had to flash bios and reset rmos or whatever its called. got a used graphics card, it was a mining card and wasn't working at all.

odd pendant
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Oof

cerulean rover
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Well I gotta go to sleep now, Good night, someone else will likely help you if you have more trouble

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cya

odd pendant
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Good night! Thank you

cerulean rover
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You're selcome!

odd pendant
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The process of finding this out was a rollercoaster. Steam vr would crash but mixed reality wouldn't. I think, huh. Strange. Maybe itll fix itself. Then I try minecraft path tracing. Crashes. I think, huh, strange. Might be my vivecraft installation messing with things. So then I try quake II rtx. Crashes. Okay. Something is wrong.

tender mulch
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On windows 10 right?

odd pendant
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Yes

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I sent an RMA thing

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Did windows memory diagnostic. Definitely not my RAM

tender mulch
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What card did you upgrade from?

odd pendant
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It's a new build

tender mulch
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Ah.

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Are you using all of your motherboard drivers from the manufacturer or windows 10?

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have you updated your BIOS to the latest version?

odd pendant
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No I have not updated motherboard BIOS

tender mulch
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And you installed all of the drivers from the motherboard and not just what WIndows gave you?

odd pendant
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You mean like from the included disc? I have no disc drive so it wasn't an option

tender mulch
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No, i meant downloaded from the motherboard manufacturers website

odd pendant
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Ah, then no afaik

tender mulch
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do both before you RMA the card then

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It honestly sounds like a software issue

odd pendant
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Could be. I found something strange. After testing my RAM I opened aorus engine. It might have been an OC issue

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I had to set to do the gpu boost auto scanned

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I defaulted everything and it seems to work now

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But it's a shame I cant do the auto scan

tender mulch
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Yeah, overclocks can cause issues

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It should be tested with unengine heaven or something to be sure it's stable

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The GPU will auto boost to described frequency without overclocking

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Once it has a load on it

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For now, I would honestly install ALL of the motherboard drivers though

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DOn't do the BIOS unless you continue to have issues

odd pendant
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Also for some reason it's not really showing a load when in quake 2 rtx. Is that normal

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It's getting about 64ish fps

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It should have a load on it right?

tender mulch
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What CPU?

odd pendant
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R5 3400g

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Not a cpu bottleneck afaik

tender mulch
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Um, don't be so sure lol

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108op gaming is mostly CPU reliant

odd pendant
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All right

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I will try minecraft PTGI again then

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Which I know is a gpu bottleneck

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Okay now it hits 100%

tender mulch
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I wouldn't necessarily call it a bottleneck

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But you won't get the best performance out the 2060 paired with that processor

odd pendant
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Phew I'm glad the gpu is okay. Should I try auto scan oc again or nah

tender mulch
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Nah

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If you're going to OC

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Get MSI Afterburner and slowly bump things up 50 mhz at a time and test after each bump

odd pendant
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All right

tender mulch
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Run Unengine Heaven after each bump to test for stability

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it's going to take some time

odd pendant
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Thank you all for the help by the way!

tender mulch
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For my EVGA 2060 I got 200mhz Core and 400MHZ memory

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YW!

odd pendant
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Didnt know auto scan was considered an OC. Thought it was like a to do thing when you got a gpu

tender mulch
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Nope

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It's an auto scan to find the highest overclock

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Best to do it the manual way

odd pendant
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Wonder why it was stable two weeks ago

tender mulch
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Driver update?

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nVidia just released one....but it's hard to say

odd pendant
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Could be. Could be.

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You might be right

tender mulch
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Windows 10 just u pdated too

odd pendant
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I dont think I downloaded that update but maybe in the future I will try it again some day or just do manual oc

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Thank you again!

tender mulch
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If it runs fine at stock clocks I wouldn't worry too much

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Welcome!

odd pendant
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I was so worried I'd have to get it repaired or replaced

tender mulch
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Since it was all RTX based from your above post, that indicated software issues

odd pendant
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Gotcha

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Steam vr wasn't rtx and neither was ptgi minecraft but yeah quake 2 rtx was also not working

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It was just when a big load was hitting the gpu caused a crash

tender mulch
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Well, I thought PTGI Minecraft was a shader pack with ray tracing?

odd pendant
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Well yes, but not official RTX support

tender mulch
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AH, gotcha

odd pendant
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Its software path tracing

tender mulch
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I know real time ray tracing is coming though.....can't wait for that

odd pendant
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Same

tender mulch
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But i think it's WIndows 10 edition only since Java edition can't do it

odd pendant
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They said they wanted 2060 for 1080p60 and 2070 1440p60 and 2080 for 4k60

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So hopefully all that doesn't take them long to optimize

tender mulch
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Well, just be aware that the RTX 2060 is kind of weak for ray tracing games

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I've owned one since it came out

odd pendant
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The super is basically a 2070 though

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Anywho that's okay

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I dont own anything other than quake 2 rtx lmao

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For ray tracing

tender mulch
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Ya, just don't expect the moon! On BFV it was 40-60 FPS

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Mine is an ultra clocked blah blah blah

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with an overclock lol

odd pendant
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Yeah I don't mind any low quality rtx or nothing :p on a budget anyway lol

tender mulch
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Good. You're in the right place then

odd pendant
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I think the pc was a total of $800ish

tender mulch
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Also keep in mind that CPU is under driving the GPU a little bit

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I wouldn't call it a bottle neck but definitely losing a bit of performance

odd pendant
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For most games I play it doesn't seem to be an issue but yeah regretting not getting a 3600

tender mulch
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2600 would probably be fine

odd pendant
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Just for cpu rendering tasks

tender mulch
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But, always room for an upgrade in the future

odd pendant
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Ye

devout pawn
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hey, im having a bit of trouble with my gpu. its running at 42-50 C idle.
i was watching some youtube and my pc froze and made a buzzing sound
(gtx 1660 ti)

sand sorrel
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Isnt 50 idle like ok?

devout pawn
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its extremely odd

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it usually idles at 25-30

sand sorrel
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Was it lower before?

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Are you sure it idled at 25-30 before?

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New GPU?

strange lantern
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ill trade my gt630 squiggles 100% a deal

devout pawn
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yes im sure it idled there before. also ive had it for about 6 months now

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also hell no crunchy

sand sorrel
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I mean

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You dont know

strange lantern
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lol

sand sorrel
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Might be bad cooler design

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And it coudlve been always idling around 50

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Or

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GPU doesnt get enough airflow

devout pawn
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this says 35 C

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also it has plenty of airflow

sand sorrel
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Dust?

devout pawn
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doesnt look like it

sand sorrel
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Fans working?

devout pawn
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yeah

sand sorrel
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Fan curve, if you have it, might be low

devout pawn
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hmm

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bumped the fan speed to 100 and it started making a clicking sound its never made before

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yes i have hit 100% speed before

sand sorrel
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Thats a sign of a broken product

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I dont think you can fix that

devout pawn
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oh... great...

sand sorrel
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" The card has coils in the power system to help smooth out the power with the capacitors. The regulator pulses the power VERY fast and the pulse rate changes with load(this is how the voltage is regulated). This can cause the coils to make a buzzing sound.

This will not hurt the card in the long run and some users report being able to RMA over it. I find it to be luck of the draw to be honest.

Some users also claim that better filtering in the power supply(More caps in most cases) can reduce or even remove this. "

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Or just something could be bent and hitting something

devout pawn
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i doubt that anythings bent

dusk wolf
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What are your thoughts on a gtx 1660ti vs a rx 590 on a ryzen 2600 cpu syetm with 16gb 3200 ram for triple a titles at 1080p resolution?

lone pond
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Visit some benchmark websites and find out

ancient crystal
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1660 Super, it has GDDR6

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and is cheaper

lone pond
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@dusk wolf

ancient crystal
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btw get the super over the Ti

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it costs less and loses maybe 1-2% fps and 5% tops

dusk wolf
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I have looked at benchmarks n seeing only a 5 to 10 percent difference between each. 590 at 190 1660 suoer at 250 and and 1660 ti at 290 along with the 5500xt at 200 and 5700 at 350. The price stacking was a bit confusing so I was asking about the gpus to see if the extra money was actually worth it.

grave valley
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I was trying to OC it a bit and was getting blue screens, so I stopped. But then the blue screens kept coming.

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Much sad

cerulean rover
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thats saddening

grave valley
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Yes

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I have older card still

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So ok

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But

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Still sadness

midnight summit
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https://m.facebook.com/marketplace/item/648351972328329/?ref=browse_tab what do you guys think I should replace in this if I get this? I was thinking of getting a better psu, a better cpu, swapping ram sticks out for new ones at the least

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The gpu in it seems pretty alright

grave valley
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Yeah

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CPU PSU and ram for sure

midnight summit
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Yeah, those were all lack luster

grave valley
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My GPU that just committed neck rope is one of those

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It actually will still boot

midnight summit
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Probably like 650 w or higher so I have more room for expansion, do my self the favor and get the 16gb of ram, and I’m not quite sure on the cpu rn

grave valley
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It just randomly crashes :/

midnight summit
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Oh word?

grave valley
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Yea

midnight summit
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Dang

grave valley
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That contact melted

midnight summit
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Overheat?

grave valley
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Probably a that or a short

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I'm thinking short

cerulean rover
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that pc is only FL

midnight summit
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Ahh, did you have sufficient fans

cerulean rover
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so if you're fl

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its prob ok

midnight summit
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Yeah it’s from my marketplace

grave valley
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Because the other pins are not fried

midnight summit
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Don’t come and rob me

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Do you think it’s something with the series because sapphires are supposed to be the good and cards

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Amd

cerulean rover
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I'd say ask for ssd abd ram details

midnight summit
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Wdym

cerulean rover
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if they're okay, go for it

grave valley
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I may try cleaning it up. When it blue screens it's not corrupting my windows install

cerulean rover
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it just says "240gb ssd"
and "8gb aegis"

grave valley
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What are those specific pins for?

midnight summit
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It’s down at the bottom

grave valley
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Does anyone know a lot about GPUs?

cerulean rover
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oh im blind

grave valley
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Yeah, opposite end of the clip

midnight summit
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Visi does

grave valley
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Towards the screws

cerulean rover
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if you want to get it, you prob want to buy a CPU upgrade and ram upgrade

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2400mhz is pretty low, and 200GE is pretty bad

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tho good price for it, imo

grave valley
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What are those mobos outright rn?

cerulean rover
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looks like 60 bucks new

grave valley
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Yea I see like $75

cerulean rover
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60 on newegg

grave valley
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Huh I was also looking at Newegg

cerulean rover
grave valley
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Oh it's that B450

midnight summit
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Are they bad?

grave valley
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No

midnight summit
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Why did it revert my profile pic

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Wait nvm

grave valley
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I mean idk you could probably just build one yourself.... If the only components you're gonna keep are the mobo, case, fan and GPU

midnight summit
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I’m keeping the hdd and ssd, if I can find good things about them

grave valley
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What would your resale value be on those other components

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Gotcha

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You should do the math on that

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That's what I'd do

midnight summit
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The ones I’m going to replace?

grave valley
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I'm gonna try and find drivers for my old card XD

midnight summit
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It’s like rough estimate 450 rn

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So total like 850

grave valley
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Yeah and compare that to just building from scratch

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Minus the money from the ones you replace

midnight summit
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My ideal build would be like 1170

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If I replace the mobo, even though it supports 3rd gen cpu, I might as well just make the other build

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This is ridiculous

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670

grave valley
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Lol I want a 2060

midnight summit
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This is absolutely ridiculous

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This guy is a mad man if this is legit

cerulean rover
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670$ is enough to build that full build new afaik

midnight summit
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Bro what

grave valley
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But

cerulean rover
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300$ for 2060, 100 for cpu 100 for mobo 50$for ram 50$psu 40$ssd 40$hdd add just a bit more and you have the case

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Estimations

grave valley
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As @cerulean rover said

cerulean rover
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Heck 1tb hdd is like 20 bucks

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Wait 256gb ssd you can get that for like 30 bucks

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Idk intel prices

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But I'm estimating and making assumptions

grave valley
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Me either

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Lol I gave up on finding the drivers and booted it with the basic windows ones XD

cerulean rover
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Its ok

grave valley
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Gonna find them on the web

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It booted in 600 by 800

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Or something like that XD

cerulean rover
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At least stuff is visable

grave valley
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Lol I changed it to 1080p

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But I still need the actual drivers

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It's stuck at 64hz

cerulean rover
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Nvidia time

grave valley
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Yep

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I remember not liking their interfaces

cerulean rover
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Am I the only one that downloads driver through advanced graphics settings? XD

grave valley
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I mean the issue is I don't have those yet

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Or I do

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But don't know how to Nvidia

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Yeah

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Nada in system tray

midnight summit
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The ram is 2400mhz on that

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That’s getting replaced

grave valley
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7 min to driver download

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Okay 6

midnight summit
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hey gamers

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what does everyone think of tihs

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this

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cpu is old

lone pond
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Thinking of a XFX Radeon VII for £550

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Is it worth

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Or is it better to get a 5700 xt for £100 less and a small performance difference

wicked hound
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If you're gaming, then 5700XT. If you're doing big renders that require a lot of VRAM, do VRAM intensive work, or do work that is in raw compute then R VII

slender acorn
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Oh. Found out why Newegg was trying to force me to buy from Faketa or BTE Outlet

heavy raft
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Sorry msi but I'd prefer to have all of my gpu fans be the same size

ancient crystal
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are you connected via displayport?

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oh that was up there

lone pond
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Worth it?

median pagoda
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Nah

surreal aspen
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If I understand this correctly I dont need a AMD CPU for an AMD video card right?

dense flicker
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nope

wispy crystal
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Yussss, my strix 1070 ti came in

lone pond
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oh dang son

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@surreal aspen yeah you can get AMD cpu and Nvidia gpu, Intel cpu and amd gpu, amd everything, or amd nothing, etc

hollow tulip
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Maverick, as other have stated you don't need AMD nor NVIDIA for any specific. AMD CPUs right now are an incredible buy and smoke Intel on value at every point. Only the absolute bleeding edge is still held by Intel right now. Your best gameing video card though is likely an NVIDIA. I'm running an AMD 2600x and NVidia 1660 Ti personally and very happy.

summer peak
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Nvidia is only really better at certain price points.

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Nvidia specifically kills it at the 200 dollar price point and the super high end (800+)

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AMD has it at the low end (under 150) and mid range (300-500)

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obviously talking gpus, AMD cpus are a good deal all around

hollow tulip
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I'd agree with you at anything $200+ is NVIDIA. Sub $200 the AMD ARE better, but you're almost better going for the 3200G or 3400G if your going that way

summer peak
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the rx 5700 performs as a 2060 super for 100 dollars less. The 5700xt performs as a 2070super for the price of a 2060 super.

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I don't know man, I think AMD is killing it in the mid range.

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Now, that being said, if you stream a lot Nvidia could well be worth the 100 dollar premium in that price point -- nvenc is great and nearly free for encoding a stream.

hollow tulip
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Depends on the deal you get. Those can be very tight especially with all the freaking deals right now. That 100 was 10 earlier this week.

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Depends on the deal you get. Those can be very tight especially with all the freaking deals right now. That 100 was 10 earlier this week.

summer peak
#

Now, that being said, if you stream a lot Nvidia could well be worth the 100 dollar premium in that price point -- nvenc is great and nearly free for encoding a stream.

hollow tulip
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Depends on the deal you get. Those can be very tight especially with all the freaking deals right now. That 100 was 10 earlier this week.

summer peak
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that's an exaggeration.

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Find a 2060 super with a decent cooler for 330.

hollow tulip
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I understand. Also as much as I like AMD for a lot their drivers do them a diservice

summer peak
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Their drivers are fine.

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That's an old complaint that hasn't really been true for quite a while.

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Especially with the new 2020 adrenaline drivers

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Like if this was 2008 I might agree with you

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but...

hollow tulip
#

It still is for some games. They are much much improved, but still not updated as often as nvidia

summer peak
#

They're updated way more often than you seem to think, Nvidia tends to just have game ready drivers out a few days before AMD.

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It's really not a big deal in the grand scheme of things.

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It's not like you can't play those games anyway.

hollow tulip
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Well next upgrade I'll look. I went with 1660 last month so I'm good for 2 years. I'd been and for 6 years previous.

summer peak
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Yeah I'm really not trying to fight with you or anything but like, these issues aren't really issues anymore.

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At the very least, speaking from experience, I've had no more issues with AMD than I have with Nvidia.

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I had a few hiccups with the 5700 when it first came out, but after the first month it's been rock solid.

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And that's kind of to be expected.

hollow tulip
#

Good to know. Again I was using my last 6 yrs from r6 290 onward

summer peak
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Any new launch can be rough.

hollow tulip
#

They had budget down hard and up to mid. Anything else has always been NVIDIA. I'd love to see them take that for a while! Somewhere I saw 90% of all CPU sales this quarter, and maybe longer all all AMD.

summer peak
#

yeah, AMD is really killing it right now

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I'm happy, but I worry they'll just pull the same thing Nvidia and Intel have been doing with pricing after a while

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since now they're getting market majority

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but then I'm sure Nvidia and Intel will cut their prices to counter that

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or at least, I hope

digital heath
#

how is i7-9700k for 370 bucks?

summer peak
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Bad deal imo, you can get the ryzen 3700x for 330 or less which will perform as well/better in most tasks

surreal aspen
#

Thanks everyone for the info

rugged seal
#

5700XT
over a 2070 super?

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which is better?

next ginkgo
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2070 super, plus it's got RTX

tired swan
#

what do you guys think about the 5500 XT?

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over the 590, specifically

next ginkgo
#

the 590? i think the 590 is much more capable

tender mulch
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5500XT is RX580 equivalent

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1650 Super level-ish performance

next ginkgo
#

really no reason not to just get a 1660 super

tired swan
#

ok thanks

somber current
#

Hey the gpu I’m tryna get only has hdmi and DisplayPort but my monitor doesn’t have dp so could I get a DisplayPort to dvi adapter and still use 144hz on my monitor?

next ginkgo
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depends, it needs an active adapter i think, so it will depend on whether the adapter can keep up

somber current
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Wdym

next ginkgo
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it will depend on the adapter but most will only guarantee 60Hz

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the monitor doesn't have HDMI?

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or doesn't support 144Hz on hdmi?

hearty mortar
#

Iike ceese

lone pond
amber summit
#

yo anyone know the best 5700xt to get

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im tryna decide between the red dragon and the sapphire radeon nitro+

summer peak
#

@amber summit nitro + is way better than the red dragon -- did you mean the red devil?

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both the powercolor red devil and sapphire nitro + are among the best

amber summit
#

yah i meant red devil

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my bad

summer peak
#

get whichever is cheaper

amber summit
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they both the same price

summer peak
#

well then get whichever you think looks cooler

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they're both about on par

amber summit
#

they bout same performance?

summer peak
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yep

amber summit
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alright thanks

next ginkgo
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the sapphire has RGB tho

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so obviously that one

amber summit
#

ez choice

next ginkgo
#

oh wait they both have RGB, the sapphire just has more

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they both have double ball bearing fans so no advantage there

amber summit
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ima go with the sapphire

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give me like an extra 1-2 fps in the games i play

next ginkgo
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cause of the RGB

graceful escarp
#

Should i get an rx 590 or a gtx 1650 super

summer peak
#

590

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better performance

wicked hound
#

pretty sure 1650S/1660 on average outperforms 590 in gaming (not raw compute/synthetics)
Also NVENC

summer peak
#

It depends on the game, but in most games the 590 outperforms the 1650 super

brisk flame
#

the 590 also uses a crap ton more power

summer peak
#

valid point

ancient crystal
#

ideally you shouldn't need to worry about power

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for a long time i've worried about power

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and not anymore

lone pond
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I worry about my electric bill

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it's $179 this month

summer peak
#

f

ancient crystal
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the electricity is paid in the apartments i live in

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¯_(ツ)_/¯

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they don't have per-apartment electricity meters as far as i can tell, i've looked around for one around the outside of the building and inside the apartment, and there aren't enough meters to cover each apartment outside and there aren't any meters inside

strange lantern
#

or just undervolt the card that works to keep power down

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people have saved 15+ watts while keeping stock frequencies

lone pond
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15 watts really doesn't amount to much off the electric bill

somber current
#

What’s the difference between mech oc and gaming oc

fallen schooner
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put them side by side and compare 😄

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newegg has a compare items feature.

graceful escarp
#

I dont care about power, just price and performance

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I looked at userbench

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but I know userbench is innaccurate

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what websites are there for comparing parts?

summer peak
#

Userbench is fine if you take it with a grain of salt, it's good to get a general idea but you'll want to look at and compare real world benchmarks to see the fine details

graceful escarp
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oh ok thx

summer peak
#

Hardware unboxed and gamersnexus tend to do good benchmarks for cards.

graceful escarp
#

yeah true, im subbed to both

tender mulch
#

JayZ also

graceful escarp
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Linus too

frail lintel
#

yo so the AMD Ryzen 7 3700X

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pretty good right?

tender mulch
#

ye

frail lintel
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dope

tender mulch
#

I have it. It's a beast

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Stock air cooler kinda sucks though, would recommend aftermarket

frail lintel
#

AMD Radeon RX 5700 pretty good too huh

tender mulch
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AIO or Dark Rock or Noctua or Mugen 5 or something

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I'd go XT if you can afford it

frail lintel
#

ok

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thx

tender mulch
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YW

gray vapor
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@frail lintel do you really hate people cause we're people 🤔

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except for Box cause he is a box

remote venture
#

can anyone recommend a good graphics card for around $200. I have a ryzen 5 2600

frail lintel
#

Uhhh kinda i mean i hate a lot of people so i generalize

tender mulch
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$200 gpu? 1650 super, RX 580, 1660

gray vapor
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1660 Super

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RX 5500 XT is within the 200$ range

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but for performance i would get the 1650 Super

remote venture
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okay

gray vapor
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@remote venture the thing is right now the 1650 Super is about 40$ cheaper than the 5500 XT and the only thing better about the 5500 XT is it gives you 2-5 more frames

remote venture
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true

gray vapor
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so price to performance the 1650 Super would be the better buy

remote venture
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aight

gray vapor
tender mulch
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HA!

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I was on the same site

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They're all within 5 FPS or so

gray vapor
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But i am glad my 1660 is still better than a 590

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and someone kept telling me before i bought the 1660 to get the 590 since they "perform the same"

tender mulch
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Depends on the game, honestly. Division 2, the 1660 super is only 1 FPS better

gray vapor
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Ya but that is more AMD supportive and a lot of games are more supportive towards Nvidia

ancient crystal
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more like, nvidia is in bed with developers and helps fund them and then gives them tools to make the game run better on nvidia

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this is a whole program nvidia has and AMD doesn't really

tender mulch
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I dunno, a 17 game average shows a difference of 2 FPS 🤷‍♂️

ancient crystal
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there's a reason the witcher 3 for example uses hairworks instead of tressFX (porque no los dos)

gray vapor
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1440p on par with each other lol

tender mulch
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MOst people in that GPU price range don't do 1440 though

gray vapor
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Well it does depend if they got their monitor on a special

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sometimes people could also find a 1440p 22" monitor for like 80 to 100 dollars

ancient crystal
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i'm doing 1080p at a bit less than those GPUs

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less cost

lone pond
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4gb GTX 970 or 8gb rx 480/580

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Leaning towards the GTX 970 because of me wanting to record a little

gray vapor
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You can record with the 580

lone pond
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I know AMD has software

gray vapor
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Adrenalin has its own recording software

lone pond
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But I heard a lot of crap about it

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Specifically from Hei

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it's not bad

gray vapor
lone pond
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doesn't look to be very high quality

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thats a rx 570 if that helps any

gray vapor
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Well Discord sometimes doesn't put video's on default 1080

lone pond
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nah you can see the compression and artifacts

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what bitrate did you record at

gray vapor
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Using Nvidia now so can't tell you

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and that game doesn't play well with AMD as well

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well for GPU's

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just a lot of games i would benchmark are not really PG 13 like content like Doom as an example

lone pond
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Doom is still really well for benchmarking

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really good*

gray vapor
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Tomb Raider is good as well for Nvidia cards

ancient crystal
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it's good for any cards, really, it's a demanding game

dreamy dragonBOT
#
Communist#2230 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

lone pond
#

f

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holy poop lost odyssey is playable on xenia emulator now

gray vapor
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Rise of the Tomb Raider i only got like 5 more fps than the 1050 Ti lol

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with the 570

ancient crystal
#

with all due respect, polaris kind of sucks though

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it's the same AMD architecture used for like a decade

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i'd like to see how the 5700 does vs 260 on that game

nocturne turtle
#

@gray vapor I have a 1060GB playing at the absolutely lowest settings at 2560x1440 with a 1080p second monitor and I get 50fps while playing 120 while in menu, any suggestions?

pseudo spruce
#

Anyone have issues with getting Radeon Adrenaline drivers to work with core isolation enabled in Windows? On my Ryzen 2700X build with RX 590 if I enable it, I get an error message in device manager saying windows cannot load driver but only when it's turned on.

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I even tried an older version and I get a bsod right after installing it.

gray vapor
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leave it off for now it could be a driver issue

rocky isle
gray vapor
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Maybe check your monitor settings

pseudo spruce
#

Ok thanks. I noticed it's only on Ryzen machines. I have an Intel pc with another RX590 and no issues at all. @gray vapor

ancient crystal
#

that looks like it might need a BIOS update

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depends on if it persists after OS is loaded

drowsy shell
#

got £550 to spend on graphics card

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dk what to get

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got a ryzen 7 3700x

summer peak
#

get a 2070 super if you really want, but you can get the same performance with a 5700xt and save yourself some money -- I'd only get the 2070 super if you're a streamer. NVENC is really useful.

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this is what I'd recommend

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really good cooler, got some room to overclock it if you want

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the next performance tier is over your budget so

drowsy shell
#

I was looking at the 5700xt but

ancient crystal
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you should go for it! it's awesome

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it uses a little more power than the nvidya card but you shouldn't worry too much about a 50W under load bump

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was it 50W?

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i feel like it was

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TRIPLE FANS

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i love that red devil card

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it looks like late 90s hot topics did inside

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and yeah as Visi already said if you're a streamer then the whole thing is moot

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but that is the coolest GPU i've seen, i think

drowsy shell
#

But tbh Idm paying for the extra permprmsve

summer peak
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you won't get better performance

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the 2070 super and the 5700xt are neck in neck

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it fluctuates from game to game

ancient crystal
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that's how it used to be with nvidya/AMD

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AMD has taken their place back

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on the price/performance

lone pond
#

guys

summer peak
#

sup

ancient crystal
#

hello

lone pond
#

i just bought a Powercolor RX 580 8GB

summer peak
#

good choice

lone pond
#

and i found a switch on the side of it

summer peak
#

mhm?

lone pond
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do you know what is it?

ancient crystal
#

the switch i think is a switch between BIOS

lone pond
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i can't find anything about it on the manual

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OOOOOOH

summer peak
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yeah, one is an OC mode and one is a silent mode

lone pond
#

ok cool, this is cool

summer peak
#

so one prioritizes performance, one prioritizes being quiet

ancient crystal
#

performance is what you likely want

lone pond
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i don't care for being quiet as long as i have my 200+ fps lol

ancient crystal
#

my monitor has adaptive sync and goes to 144fps

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so all i care about is being able to get that in just about any game

lone pond
#

wait, now that i think about it

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which one's which?

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lol

summer peak
#

dunno

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you'll have to figure that out on your own

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I'd imagine by default it's set to OC

lone pond
#

;-;

summer peak
#

you can find out really easily by switching it and going into GPU-Z or something similar

#

and checking the clocks

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obviousuly turn your PC off first thoguh

lone pond
#

btw AMD's new driver is looking awesome

summer peak
#

before switching it

ancient crystal
#

i've been thinking of getting one of those 2060 Supers because of the blower fans being less terrible, as you said Visi, I have a hard time going over to team green when the prices are better on red but i just dunno, all the blower 5700s are stupid expensive

summer peak
#

the blower 5700 are bad

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they run really hot

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if you really want one, go for the 2060 super yeah

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you're gonna pay for that though

ancient crystal
#

well it's not a matter of want

summer peak
#

you told me about your case, yeha

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it's rough

ancient crystal
#

it's a matter of "my power supply will block all air intake"

#

so

summer peak
#

you could try getting a pci-e riser

#

idk

#

mount the gpu elsewhere

ancient crystal
#

have to figure out where to mount it

summer peak
#

but honestly the easiest is to just get a blower 2060super

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because the blower 5700 runs really hot

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like 80c hot or more

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it's not dangerous

#

but I wouldn't want to run that hot all the time

lone pond
#

it's like, limit of being dangerous right?

summer peak
#

I'd say above 90c is dangerous

lone pond
#

my old gpu got 100c lmao

ancient crystal
#

those prices are complete butt

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on the Super

lone pond
#

but it was for less than a minute

summer peak
#

if you're okay with running your gpu warm and don't plan to OC I guess you could just get a 5700

#

it's not like it's going to fry itself

ancient crystal
#

like way more than it should cost

summer peak
#

just... oof

ancient crystal
#

it'll just heat up the apartment and make me go crazy

lone pond
#

i agree that Nvidia is overpriced

ancient crystal
#

well nvidia offers stuff like nvenc

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so it's what you're paying for

summer peak
#

do it tbh

#

320 for it is a good deal

lone pond
#

like, here in brazil it's around 2000BRL in a 2060 Super

summer peak
#

even with it running hot

ancient crystal
#

limited supply at this price

shut prism
#

Would anybody be willing to give me some tips as I am thinking about building a watercooling loop, but don't know, what blocks I can install?

ancient crystal
lone pond
#

i never used watercoolers, sorry

summer peak
#

It's really late for me or I'd offer to help but that's a pretty involved thing

ancient crystal
#

wait you've actually done that

summer peak
#

if you haven't gotten any help by tomorrow ask me

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I used to build PCs for a living anni

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worked at a boutique

ancient crystal
#

oh, so you kind of had to know

shut prism
#

Well, the first thing for me is to know, which gpu blocks I can buy, or if any block for a 1080 ti will work (I have the Palit gtx 1080 ti super jetstream and I am not sure, if the card is reference design or not)

summer peak
#

I'd have to go digging to find out since I haven't owned that particular card and it's not something I really wanna do atm but like I said, if nobody helps you by tomorrow hit me up and I'll help you figure it out

shut prism
#

Ok will do. I am digging as well, and I am not sure, where to find the answers ^^

ancient crystal
#

i think LinusTechTips has some videos on closed loop water cooling systems

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search that + water cooling

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the $329 one is prime

#

i'm going to try to go to bed again, the worst insomnia tonight

drowsy shell
#

Just wondering what the best 2070 super variant is

summer peak
#

probably the asus ROG strix but there's a lot more good options for the 2070 super than there is for the rx 5700xt coolers

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oh that's the 2070 not the super

#

still

#

there you go correct one

#

but again, that's the same performance as the 5700xt for over 100 more

drowsy shell
#

the performance isnt the "Same"

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close

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but not the same

summer peak
#

again, it fluctuates depending on the game

#

it is the same

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or as close to the same as is feasible

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if you want to pay 100+ dollars extra for 1-5 frames extra in some games (and worse performance in others) be my guest

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All I can tell you is what is the best deal for you

frozen pebble
#

Yo @summer peak

alpine wave
#

Is the 5700xt worth the extra $50 compared to the 5700

lone pond
#

People on this server need to start checking benchmarks and deciding this stuff for themselves

prime jay
#

Yup

lone pond
#

@lone pond they don't understand so they need other people to decide for them

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I bet most of them skimp thru the benchmarks

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or they already decided on what they want to get

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but they want to make sure that they are doing the right thing

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I don’t think it is worth it

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Unless your build budget is high

granite juniper
#
obtuse pier
#

Do not get the 5700 or xt varients right now. The drivers are terrible. Powercolor Red Devil 5700XT owner....

lunar gull
#

any suggestions on a good nvidia card for a $1000 pc build which can play cities skylines and gta5 no probs.

wide rose
#

@lunar gull 1080 used

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$300

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or a vega 64

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1080 is better

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but the vega 64 can be found slightly more often for $300

lunar gull
#

@wide rose thx

wide rose
#

np

tame halo
#

donate me on Twitch! ;/

#

jk

#

RX 5700XT! Shuld I buy that for an upgrade from rx 590

#

?

wide rose
#

i mean

#

theres better uses of your money for that price

#

but yea thats a good card

#

the 1080 used at 300 is a really good deal

next ginkgo
#

for an upgrade that's a pretty small step, i'd wait another year unless you're trying to hit a certain 1440p performance now

lone pond
#

1080 ti for around $350

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is the deal you are looking for

next ginkgo
#

says me who upgraded from a 1070 to a 2070 super LUL

tender mulch
#

Small step? You're talking 50% perforance increase at 1080p

#

That's not exactly small

lone pond
#

is perforance a perfume brand?

next ginkgo
#

maybe that's just me, i usually go 2 generations before getting a new card

#

i guess it's a worthwhile step if you play a lot of shooters and want to get over 100 fps or if you're trying to get into 1440p

lone pond
#

I don't understand why 1440p is a thing

#

but that's just me

#

I go straight to 4k

#

x.x

next ginkgo
#

because there exist cards that can actually drive it beyond 60hz unlike 4k mainly

lone pond
#

it's either perfect performance at 1080p

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or 4k60

#

1440p is just weird

tender mulch
#

VR

lone pond
#

scaling 1080p content is 1440p isn't exactly bit perfect also

next ginkgo
#

1080p looks like poo but i like high refresh rate

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so i went 1440

lone pond
#

you can actually drive cs go past 144hz on 4k on some gpus

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and that's the only game that matters to me x.x

#

1440p is nice and all if you are playing games but it doesn't really do anything beyond that

#

because there aren't 1440p content so it's either downscaling or upscaling

next ginkgo
#

it's working great for me so far

#

i haven't noticed any scaling issues

lone pond
#

well I'm just talking objectively, if you are happy with your purchase

#

who am I to tell you

#

but watching 1080p content on 1440p will definitely looks worse

next ginkgo
#

youtube has 1440p, twitch fits almost perfectly into a 1080p area on the screen, idk what netflix and what not do

lone pond
#

than on 1080p monitor

#

that's a fact

next ginkgo
#

you can still watch it at 1080p if it's noticeable to you

#

the pixel density looks better

#

4k is obviously ideal for watching movies and what not

lone pond
#

4k is just ideal for watching 4k content and 1080p content because the scaling is bit perfect

next ginkgo
#

but 1440p is as big as you can go without blowing up your video card with this generation

#

once high refresh 4k is figured out i'll probably end up there eventually

lone pond
#

It's already there

#

you can't drive modern games that high

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is the problem

#

old games like cs go? easy

next ginkgo
#

i mean the monitors too

lone pond
#

4k 144hz has been a thing for a long time

#

not at the price you would expect tho

next ginkgo
#

there are literally 0 on newegg

wide rose
#

when it says up to

next ginkgo
#

lol jesus

wide rose
#

prob oc'ing

lone pond
#

Hello, so a while back a guy helped me picked PC parts for a new computer here. Since I've started buying parts my dad offered to help me out since I would also be using it for college. He refuses to buy anything amd tho. Is there any significant difference in rendering speed between 2060 s and 2070 s? And which one would be enough to play 1080p ultra on all games at 100+ fps? Thanks!

wide rose
#

bro

#

if your dad is helping

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just get the 2070

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lul

lone pond
#

if you can handle big screen tvs, there are some 4k cheap ones with 120hz

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monitor it's lil bit more expensive

wide rose
#

i play on 120hz

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is it worth getting a cable for 144

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im just too lazy to switch it from hdmi

next ginkgo
#

TVs are HDMI aren't they?

lone pond
#

but the technology is already there a long time ago

next ginkgo
#

you're trolling man

lone pond
#

me?

gray vapor
#

TV's are just HDMI

lone pond
#

2.1 hdmi is up to par with the best stuffs

#

not all hdmi are equal

dense flicker
#

idk my tv has component

#

:D

#

or whatever the heck the og wii plugs into

lone pond
#

my tv has component port too

#

maybe I should try plugging my vhs tape reader in

#

and see how old movies look on hdtv

wide rose
#

lmao

#

ima ask again

#

is there a diff. between 120 and 144hz enough for me to buy a dp cable

tender mulch
#

Why DP? HDMI 2.0 should do that

wide rose
#

doesnt

lone pond
#

you don't have a DP cable in 2019 you should get one

next ginkgo
#

idk, i have my monitors on 120 on purpose cause some things won't run at 144 and i haven't noticed a difference

lone pond
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It's not about want it's about "need"

wide rose
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im buying a 1080 soon

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so

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fps for the games i play isnt a prob

tender mulch
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HDMI 2.0. You probably have 1.4

lone pond
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since there are some things that don't have HDMI in 2019

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like my laptop

wide rose
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i never said it was 2 tbh

lone pond
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x.x

next ginkgo
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the refresh rate is probably limited by his monitor

wide rose
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ive just been fine with 120hz

tender mulch
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1.4 maxes out on monitors at 120hz

wide rose
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nah

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ive sent it

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its a 144hz

lone pond
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but the difference between 120hz and 144hz?

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negligible

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but you should get that DP cable anyways

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it's for your own good

wide rose
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wuh

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you just sound elitist

gray vapor
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Have you actually tried going in the actual display settings?

wide rose
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thats what control panel is

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cant even change hz here :/

gray vapor
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yes you can

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go in advanced display settings

tender mulch
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Probably an older HDMI 1.4 cable, They only support 120hz @1080p for monitors

wide rose
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lemme try switching my hdmi cables

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on my monitors

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nvm

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thats too much effort

next ginkgo
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lol

lone pond
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hmm

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that's a troll

wide rose
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no

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thats awful

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i wrapped all my cables around my monitor stand

lone pond
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if you have a knife it's simple

wide rose
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lmao

tender mulch
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Wiith that monitor the only way you're getting 144hz is to go display port

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Says so on the manu page

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23.6" Full HD (1920 x 1080) Curved Widescreen VA Display with AMD FreeSync Technology
Response Time: 4ms
Refresh Rate: 144Hz - Using Display Port
Acer VisionCare Technologies
Ports: 1 x Display Port, 1 x HDMI & 1 x DVI
Display Port Cable included

wide rose
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yea

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see

next ginkgo
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that's what i figured

wide rose
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with dp

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i dont have a dp cable on me

next ginkgo
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it says it came with one 😛

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but i guess not since you bought it on ebay

gray vapor
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@wide rose Is it a freesync monitor?

wide rose
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maybe idk

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that guy said the description included it

gray vapor
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if so you need DP with Nvidia cards

wide rose
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im too lazy to do the workaround to get freesync working

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oh well weve established i need dp

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im just too lazy

next ginkgo
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how do you even use freesync? i never figured that out

lone pond
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DP just does everything better

next ginkgo
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with nvidia

wide rose
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i saw vids on it

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i figured eh

lone pond
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also the connector is easier to plug in too

next ginkgo
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you just turn it on on the monitor and it just works?

maiden sun
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😂

gray vapor
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You do it in the monitor settings and the Nvidia control panel

lone pond
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at high refresh rate I don't notice freesync actually do anything

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because screen tearing is almost non existance

gray vapor
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Also you need to chance the vsync setting in the nvidia control panel to on

wide rose
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yea @lone pond

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ive never had an issue with screen tearing

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and i notice it if its there

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beacuse if a game bugs out ill sometimes get it

gray vapor
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and even though if you have a 144hz monitor it is said for in games to limit the frames to 141

next ginkgo
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i just limit the framerate at whatever the game can run steady at

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but seems like it'd be nice to have freesync on

lone pond
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don't limit the framerate

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if you are into competitive shooters

wide rose
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^

lone pond
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even if it goes past the hz limit, whatever is not being shown there still keeps the response time smoother

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let's say you are playing a game on 60hz monitor

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and you limit the fps to 60

wide rose
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it looks awful

next ginkgo
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well if it's past the monitor i'd let it run

wide rose
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omg

lone pond
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it won't run as smooth as high fps

wide rose
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i never understood why you can even limit fps on 60hz

next ginkgo
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but i mean if a game won't run at a steady 120fps i lock it to 60 if it's a more cinematic game like shadow of the tomb raider

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or RDR2

lone pond
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that's why I said if you are into competitive shooters

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wasn't meant for anything else

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makes no sense

next ginkgo
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yeah

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in shooters i just turn it down if needed till it'll run at 120, like MW which runs kinda crappy

solar parcel
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is the gtx 1660 enoguh for streaming a game called rust at 1080p 60fps with a ryzen 5 2600x

gray vapor
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1080p yes 60 fps no