graphics-cards

[lone pond]

His cpu: Ryzen 5 2600
Mine: Ryzen 3 2300G

[hard wren]

@tender mulch Like our best buy didnt have one to demo and no one I knows has one it sounded cool when I first hear about it though

[tender mulch]

Ah, there's the issue

[lone pond]

Would that make a big difference?

[tender mulch]

Yes

[lone pond]

Ah ok

https://i.imgur.com/OSaXsm8.png

I have this app

Would like, changing the core and memory to max

be a bad idea?

[tender mulch]

Core Voltage and Power limit to max

and Temp limit

[hard wren]

and slide the memory til it crashes

[lone pond]

it wont let me change core volt

[hard wren]

in increments

[tender mulch]

Ah, then just power limit and temperature

[lone pond]

https://i.imgur.com/kyClJrx.png

[tender mulch]

But honestly, your CPU is holding you back a bit

[lone pond]

I manage to change it to this

[hard wren]

stable?

[lone pond]

still hasnt crashed or anything

[tender mulch]

Uh

You need to load it

Like, play a game or do a benchmark

[lone pond]

ok ill do that now

launching gta

[hard wren]

I mean +1000 is a little much

[tender mulch]

Yeah, I'd go 200-400

[lone pond]

https://i.imgur.com/Vyl7Lht.png

[tender mulch]

My core is +150 and memory is +400

[lone pond]

https://i.imgur.com/DHxiuIO.png

[tender mulch]

You need to game for a while

[lone pond]

the gpu is normally like 80

https://i.imgur.com/ao5fI4n.png

nvm there we go

is settling back down now tho

back down to 10

[tender mulch]

download this, install and run to test overclock settings

https://benchmark.unigine.com/heaven

[lone pond]

https://i.imgur.com/SntZaWI.jpg

Ok

[tender mulch]

Slide it up until it crashes, then back down a tad

GTA isn't exactly GPU intensive

[cerulean rover]

I've been told unigine heaven is a good one for the background while you fine tone mem clocks on GPU

Idk why but I do full 3dmarks benches when I mess with core clock

[tender mulch]

3dmark costs money

Heaven is free 🙂

[cerulean rover]

Yea

Use heaven

I like keeping heaven windowed in the background and MSI afterburner in the foreground

[hard wren]

1670mhz isnt bad for a 1050ti not doing that +1000 but at least its smart enough not to try lol

thats at least +300

[lone pond]

https://i.imgur.com/ftVzQSu.jpg

[cerulean rover]

Nice

[tender mulch]

Ya, let it run. It will test your overclock settings

[lone pond]

https://i.imgur.com/cjqMXUR.jpg

[tender mulch]

If it crashes, back the settings down until it doesn't

[cerulean rover]

You can run it windowed byw

Btw

[lone pond]

On mobile now

Running at 70fps rn

[tender mulch]

FPS doesn't really matter, stability does when you're overclocking

[lone pond]

Ok

Its still running fine

Oh crap I was share screening in a discord call aswell

[tender mulch]

let it go through a whole run at least

[lone pond]

Stopped that now

[tender mulch]

If it passes, turn the clocks up a bit more

[lone pond]

Ok

[cerulean rover]

If you're just doing mem clocks you can do the repeating thing and change clocks every minute or so

[lone pond]

I haven't changed core that much

[hard wren]

I dont understand how those memory clock numbers can be right...

[lone pond]

Just changed core to +300

Still running fine

[hard wren]

that 1050ti is running its memory at 4504mhz that shouldnt be possible LOL

[tender mulch]

Yeah

[lone pond]

it was the cheapest one on ebuyer

[tender mulch]

I'm thinking Afterburner isn't working

[grim raptor]

just go +1000 on core clock ez.

[lone pond]

Kk 1s

https://i.imgur.com/jbsMJzw.png

like that?

[hard wren]

I feel like we are being photoshop pranked

[lone pond]

Ur not

[cerulean rover]

How the ruck

[tender mulch]

There's no way the card will take that

[grim raptor]

Yeah, now click the ☑️

[tender mulch]

Gotta click the Check Mark

[cerulean rover]

Oh LOL

XDDD

[lone pond]

bsod

[tender mulch]

Ya

oops

restart

[grim raptor]

oops indeed.

[cerulean rover]

Dont go that high up lol

[lone pond]

can still hear it tho lol

[grim raptor]

Its ok, next time it'll do fine, maybe.

[tender mulch]

best to do 50-100 mhz increments until it fails a benchmark

[cerulean rover]

You should do like 100mhz at a time core clock maybe 200 at a time mem clock

[grim raptor]

You know, first run is a cold run.

Gotta work it slowly.

[cerulean rover]

If it crash, lower by 50

[grim raptor]

Exactly, try 950 now.

[cerulean rover]

It takes time but it'll be nice by the end

[hard wren]

overclocked 1050ti memory runs twice as fast as an overclocked 2080ti memory....🤔

[cerulean rover]

Dont feel bad if you don't get too much out of the card, I can only get +200mhz mem and +80mhz core on mine

Also, is it just me or are graphics cards just really loud above like 60% fan

[lone pond]

trying + 400 core

• 100 mem

1000*

[cerulean rover]

Sounds high but go ahead

[lone pond]

https://i.imgur.com/Hnc35y2.jpg

its loading up rn

[cerulean rover]

Mine was a OCes card that's basically like +400mhz or so core from normL

[lone pond]

am legit happy to screenshare

im not photoshopping anythign

[tender mulch]

Nah, you're good

[lone pond]

+500 crashed

On core

[tender mulch]

so try +450

[lone pond]

yeah that was working

ok thanks for help

so for me

+1000 mem

+450 core

[fallen schooner]

wild

[tender mulch]

Well, test the 450 core first!~

[lone pond]

I did

[fallen schooner]

you've won the silicon lottery

[lone pond]

It was working

[tender mulch]

450 was working?

NICE!

That's, honestly, amazing

[fallen schooner]

that card is 1 of a million, if true.

[lone pond]

is it actually?

I don't get overclokckijg that mucb

do I need to keep the msi thing open for it to work

[cerulean rover]

Nah

[lone pond]

Ok

[cerulean rover]

As long as it's applied, its applied

[lone pond]

Thanks

[hard wren]

yeah I mean memory shouldnt be stable like that but if it is hey go for it

[cerulean rover]

Make sure to check the "start msi afterburner on startup" or whatever

[lone pond]

just found a tickbox that says unblock voltage

should I tick it

[cerulean rover]

Ehhh dont mess with it unless you know ehat you doinf

[lone pond]

boom

explode

I don't so u won't

someone told me to Max it out earlier

[fallen schooner]

lul

well you had a nice card

[cerulean rover]

Max power not max voltage

[tender mulch]

Leave voltage alone

[cerulean rover]

Max like the "power limit"

[tender mulch]

Everything is fine the way it is

[lone pond]

wher do I tick

start with Windows

[cerulean rover]

Tick that

[tender mulch]

And Apply Settings with Start

or something like that

[cerulean rover]

Yea

Actually there should be a thing that just says "startup", and you click the button

[lone pond]

done

runs so smooth thanks ❤️

[tender mulch]

Welcome, fantastic overclock!

[cerulean rover]

:D

[lone pond]

https://i.imgur.com/RBtJPHc.png

these were the final settings

[oblique idol]

Upgraged my 1660ti to 2070 super and its amazing. EFT, Battlefield, COD, RB6S look amazing. Anyone thinking of upgrading to one should just do it

[tender mulch]

Just because I can, 1000 mhz is entirely possible with the 1050TI line

https://www.guru3d.com/articles_pages/gigabyte_geforce_gtx_1050_ti_g1_gaming_oc_review,37.html

[hushed stirrup]

I thought 1660Ti was good enough for these game?

[tender mulch]

Depends on resolution

[gentle gyro]

is the 2070 super good or is there other better options for cheaper?

[tender mulch]

5700XT

Same performance, $100 less

Only difference is Ray Tracing or not

[wispy crystal]

My 1070 ti will be in Friday, woo

[cerulean rover]

@oblique idol upgrading from no dedicated video card to rtx 2070 changed me from a copper player to a plat player on siege

[worldly crow]

im waiting on 3000

shouldnt be too much longer anyways

[tender mulch]

Um, yeah it will

They say Quarter 1 but expect that to be pushed back

I'd expect another 3-4 months at least before they are released

[worldly crow]

thats kool with m,e

im still on 1070 sc

[tender mulch]

Ya, just don't want you to be expecting it next month or something

[worldly crow]

going to be doing a asus strix/i7/rtx3070/build around october

hopefully new 10th gen will be out also

[tender mulch]

Ryzen badge, going with Intel. Lulz

[worldly crow]

gonna dish out over 500 for cpu/mobo might as well be new stuff

im using ryzen atm

[tender mulch]

Me too

3700x

It's fantastic

[worldly crow]

ive had both so doesnt matter to me but when it comes to clocks intel all the way they will always be the core clock speed champs

amd has multicore

theyre just different architecture

[wispy crystal]

I feel like AMD for balanced, Intel for pure power

[worldly crow]

im hoping with these new mobo they add pcie4

they said 10th gen will require new mobos

[tender mulch]

It should

Let's just hope 10th gen is an actual process change and not just another bump

[worldly crow]

gonna upgrade later to the 500o read and 4000 write speeds of the barracuda 520 series m.2

but its pcie4 gen 4 so need the pcie4 lanes to take full advantage

[tender mulch]

PCIE4 m.2 is insane

[oblique idol]

@hushed stirrup the 1660ti was a great gpu, but I wanted to upgrade it now that way i wont have to later. I got mine for 350 new from private seller. Plus RTX for COD, becasue I think the cod campaign is really great imo. I was a heavy mw2 fan and when i first played mw i felt so much nostalgia. Plus im gonna start to be doing vr and vr sim racing/drifting.

@cerulean rover I made the switch to pc about 6 months ago. I was on xbox but wanted to play more competitively. I first got an acer nitro 5 with a 1050ti (I added more ram). Then i bought all of my pc stuff on amazons prime day and it all got so much better. Was Gold 4-Plat2 on xbox and am like a gold 3 on pc. Havent played much rb lately becasue i have been on a tarkov grind. Games so good

[native grove]

@oblique idol i havent really heard many great things about the 1660ti did it handle well?

[cerulean rover]

Ah I see

Just so you know pc players will diss the heck out of console ranks

[abstract dome]

my 2060 super came in yesterday upgraded from a 1060 3gb i'm super happy with it

[cerulean rover]

Its really nice is it not

At the end of the day more frames smoother gameplay

[abstract dome]

plus it still crushed most of my games on high to ultra @ 1440p where the 3gb struggled most games over 30 fps on high @ 1080p

[cerulean rover]

Yea

I upgrated from laptop with like a gt smth to a 2070

Differences clear as day

[abstract dome]

oh i bet

[cerulean rover]

144hz 1080p is just so good

I play like 20% better than say 60hz

[abstract dome]

my tv will only push 120hz but at 1440 its great

[cerulean rover]

Yea 120hz is still great

[frozen pebble]

@oblique idol yo

Message me

[lone pond]

fyi

that config was fine for around 2 hrs

then whole pc bsod

and had to turn down to 900

is running fine at just 4k now

instead of 4.5k

[twin crown]

can someone link me a gtx 1060 3gb or 6b 100-120 or less

[tender mulch]

Still a good overclock

[lone pond]

yea

vvery good

i looked into it

[wicked hound]

why not RX580, same perf for $90 USD used

[twin crown]

yeah that too

[tender mulch]

@twin crown that's gonna be used

either way you go

[lone pond]

https://www.ebuyer.com/

[twin crown]

I dont care as long as it isnt used for mining

[lone pond]

have a look hjere

[twin crown]

bet

[lone pond]

https://www.ebuyer.com/788541-xfx-radeon-rx-580-8gb-gts-xxx-edition-graphics-card-rx-580p8dfd6

[twin crown]

have you bought off of here before

[lone pond]

yeah

bought my gtx 1050 ti off there

[twin crown]

nice

[lone pond]

it runs really well

ppl here will vouch i thikn

[twin crown]

damn a 1050ti for 102

i just might

[oblique idol]

@native grove the 1660ti in my opinion is a great card for entry-mid rangle pcs. Under 300 is the perfect cost effecient price and it handled over 100fps at 1080p in all the games except for eft

[lone pond]

i have a 1050ti in my laptop

[urban lark]

i have a 1050ti on my pc

please help me

[lone pond]

definitely a decent card

[ancient crystal]

i have a 1650 in my desktop currently

[urban lark]

it actually is tho

[ancient crystal]

it's decent at 1080p or less

[urban lark]

people says its bad but its actually good

[lone pond]

for $100 worth it for sure

[urban lark]

yeah

[uncut relic]

Quick question

so for my budget build, im running on a ryzen 2700 cpu and radeon rx 570 8gb

any suggestions for reasonable upgrades?

[tender mulch]

CPU is fine

Budget?

Or, how much more do you want to spend?

Motherboard?

SSD?

[uncut relic]

i have a m.2 ssd 250 gb, 1tb sollid state drive

proll around 200 to 300

[tender mulch]

Well, maybe pick up a 1660 super? $250 at Best Buy. Sounds like everything else is up to snuff

https://www.bestbuy.com/site/msi-gaming-x-nvidia-geforce-gtx-1660-super-6gb-gddr6-pci-express-3-0-graphics-card-black-gray/6389333.p?skuId=6389333&cmp=RMX&irclickid=3wP346xPMxyOWYa0EHQlB1XYUknyE92JRXweS80&irgwc=1&ref=198&loc=3wP346xPMxyOWYa0EHQlB1XYUknyE92JRXweS80&acampID=633495&mpid=221109

Or more RAM?

[uncut relic]

i got 16 gb ram

@tender mulch thx i talk to my father about it

[tender mulch]

It really sounds like you've got a nice build already

[uncut relic]

yea thx

[tender mulch]

and that's kind of all you need for an upgrade

[uncut relic]

alright

[lethal drum]

is it really worth having 2 gpus?

just a random quaestion

[lone pond]

what new / used GPUs that would go well with a Ryzen 3 2200G for about $150 would be good?

I'm preferring Nvidia here for the reason that you can screen rec well with those compared to the Rx series

[lethal drum]

i think maybe a 1050 ti

[lone pond]

no

those are super outdated

[lethal drum]

y

i guess

[lone pond]

I'm looking at maybe a 1660

[lethal drum]

i was also gonna say that

[quick tinsel]

More like a 1650 with GPU inflation currently

[lone pond]

love the holiday season

[quick tinsel]

It's just Nvidia as a whole

[lone pond]

the 1650 underperforms a lot tho

[lethal drum]

but why are u choosing a cpu with integrated graphics anyways

[lone pond]

a lot of users benchmarking it on max settings in overwatch get like 47 fps

@lethal drum it's cheaper than anything else tbh

deal wise

Ryzen 3 2200G is a good cpu for like 70 bucks

[quick tinsel]

Since when did the most current Titan card cost 2 and a half grand?

Random btw

[lethal drum]

since always

[lone pond]

titans have always been pricey

[lethal drum]

its for "professional use"

quote on qoute

[quick tinsel]

Or enthusiasts

[lethal drum]

who knows

[lone pond]

oh yikes 1660s are expensive

[lethal drum]

they are

[lone pond]

Might as well get a Rx 590 but I need the streaming capable stuff

hghhhff

[lethal drum]

idk if the radeon settings have that option tho

[lone pond]

I know

that's my problem

[cerulean rover]

dual gpu not good

[lone pond]

not going dual

[lethal drum]

now again to my question is it really worth having 2 gpus?

[cerulean rover]

but
quad crossfire is where its at
jkjk

it's not worth at all

[tender mulch]

No

SLI is done for

[cerulean rover]

its gonna die out

[tender mulch]

there's a reason nVidia took away the SLI capability for the 2060 and 2070

[lethal drum]

ok then

[cerulean rover]

maybe NVlink n stuff will stay with titan gpus idrk tho

[tender mulch]

2080/Titan can be bridge for workstation purposes

[cerulean rover]

personal gpus will continue to lose sli

[lethal drum]

then i guess i can get a 2080

[lone pond]

for the price of 2 gpus, just get a better gpu \

[lethal drum]

yeah

[lone pond]

like if you were to try to SLI 2070s (if it was possible, which it isnt) you could instead go for a 2080/2080 ti

[cerulean rover]

yes

dual 2070 is bout the same price as 2080S

[lethal drum]

heck

[cerulean rover]

2080S will prob wreck dual 2070 stats even if sli is available

[lethal drum]

a 2080 ti is overpriced

[tender mulch]

and SLI is never a twice the frames gain either

it's about 75-80%

[lethal drum]

like

[cerulean rover]

It might be 40% or something like that

in actual games

productivity would see great increases tho

[lethal drum]

a normal 2080 costs like $1000 cad

[cerulean rover]

wut

[lethal drum]

and a 2080 ti can go up to $2500 cad

[cerulean rover]

wtf

[lethal drum]

wth

[lone pond]

I might just get a used GTX 1060

6gb ofc

[cerulean rover]

1000$ CAD is the price for 2080S here in the US

around 800$ USD

[lethal drum]

thats the price of like a 2070

[cerulean rover]

2080ti in the US is around 1200USD or less

[lethal drum]

how tf

[cerulean rover]

check newegg

[lethal drum]

canada is so overpriced

wtf

i just saw an ad

for like a 20 yo laptop

at $2500 cad

[cerulean rover]

like look

MSI ventus isnt even a bad card

[lethal drum]

yeah

for 15 hundred cad

[cerulean rover]

Can you go on newegg and see prices for you?

I mean newegg ships to canada

[tender mulch]

newegg.ca

[lethal drum]

yeah im checking newegg.ca

its at 1500 cad

[tender mulch]

Are you gaming at 4K?

[cerulean rover]

then where tf were you getting high prices from

[lethal drum]

at least i will

[tender mulch]

Canadian prices are higher

[lethal drum]

ive been saving for like my whole life

so now i can get high end stuff

[cerulean rover]

just use newegg

[lethal drum]

like the 2080 ti

i probably will

since it has lower prices than amazon

like way lower

[wicked hound]

I mean, just 5700XT tho. $540 Cad

[lethal drum]

but like i want ray tracing

[tender mulch]

Ugh.

[wicked hound]

RTX is a gimmick

[tender mulch]

I have RTX and Hei is right

[lethal drum]

im just THAT person

[wicked hound]

you'll more than likely want it for a week, then forget about it cuz performance

[tender mulch]

40 FPS even with a 2080TI with ray tracing on

OOF

[wicked hound]

wait a few generations before getting RTX

then you'll (most likely) be happy

unless it turns out like PhysX

then RT goes bye bye

[lethal drum]

should i then get something like a 1080?

[cerulean rover]

too far back imo idk tho

wait for 3000s if you have time

[wicked hound]

eh, maybe. But used 1080 is usually priced too high given 2060S and 5700 price

[tender mulch]

If you're not going Ray Tracing, 5700XT is fantastic. On par with 2070, give or take

[lethal drum]

k i will now go to the cpu chat XD

[lone pond]

@wicked hound, so as you know I'm looking into maybe streaming or something. Would the 1060 6gb be a better option than a 8gb 590/580?

[wicked hound]

1650S isnt much more in terms of price, and is the same in rasterization perf. Provides the best streaming experience

but if not, then 1060

[lone pond]

Ohh, I didn't notice the 1650 had a super version

That helps a ton

[wicked hound]

yee, new card that is actually competitive from NVidia. For once Nvidia is actually doing well in the budget market

[lone pond]

It's new? So I probably can't find a good bargain on it used

I'm strictly locked to $150

can go under

but not a bit over

[wicked hound]

oof. Pretty sure 1650S is $160

might find a used option or $10 cheaper or smth

[lone pond]

it's not even listed as a model on ebay, nothing on craigslist and it barely even shows up on Amazon

must not be a popular card

[wicked hound]

well it is decently new. Like 3 - 5 weeks or smth

[lone pond]

Ah

Also

would the extra 4gb make a difference?

I've never gotten a clear answer on that

like do I need 8gb

[wicked hound]

For something like a RX470/570, not really. You use up vram with high settings. Tho the GPU isnt good enough to be playable at the settings that'd take up more than 4gb. With a 580 you'd probably see a bit over 4gb usage if you pushed settings to the max while staying at a playable frame rate. Meaning you'd probably want to get the 8gb version. But not really necessary

[lone pond]

I'm reading on Reddit that AMD has a streaming software called ReLive for their stuff

[wicked hound]

AMD streaming is pretty bad

[lone pond]

dang

[wicked hound]

dont recommend it

[lone pond]

Alright

Another question, if I just decide to not do streaming and go for that maybe later, and go for a rx 480/580/590, is overclocking a GPU just about as easy as OCing a CPU?

[wicked hound]

more or less. To memory OC isnt at easy as one thinks, both system and vram memory. Basically you can say OC it 500MHz and you wont see any issues (unless you do proper checking). So you think "oh okay, that's a good OC". However when looking at things you'd notice that perf is actually lower then no OC, due to memory errors that the GPU can automatically fix. So if you do say a 250MHz OC you'd get better perf as you arent getting memory errors and it has a clock advantage

[lone pond]

I see

[wicked hound]

but tbh, unless you plan to upgrade your GPU to a higher end model later on where you can get Nvidia for the video encoder, just get a 1060 now. Cuz then you'd need to get some $100 capture card or something

[lone pond]

Good point

I wish I could pick up a used 1060 at best buy or something for a lil cheaper

because $50 of my money is in cash, which means I have to go deposity it

deposit*

I just realized something
I gotta wait till after Christmas to put money in for the GPU because my dad doesn't know I know and I can't let that ruin his Christmas

😦

[woven tartan]

1660ti as fast as 2060?

[unkempt crater]

No

Close though

[woven tartan]

what gives more bang for buck the 2060?

[hard wren]

5700

[lone pond]

if you're going for $, just stick to the 1660 TI, so that way you have the extra few bucks to keep saving up. If you're staying Nvidia.

AMD? do the 5700 (or even the XT)

[woven tartan]

i like amd cpus but i prefer nvidia gpus

[unkempt crater]

I would do the 1660ti unless you wanna go up to the 2060 super

[lone pond]

Always take Userbenchmark with a grain of salt

[unkempt crater]

Ik

[lone pond]

Although it's kinda reliable, treat it like a news source

[spare relic]

^^

[unkempt crater]

But that's what most of the benches I saw said

So I felt like I could post that one

[lone pond]

Yeha

yeah*

[woven tartan]

i have the 2060 rn but was interested in the 1660ti and seeing if it was close to mine

[spare relic]

there's plenty of reasons to trust or distrust

[lone pond]

I mean I use userbenchmark a TON when budgeting stuff out, especially since I'm stuck to the lower budget layer

[unkempt crater]

Yeah

[woven tartan]

why are 1070s more than some rtx 2070s?

[spare relic]

stonks

[unkempt crater]

They're getting hard to find

That's my guess anyway

[lone pond]

They didn't produce a lot of 1070s

and 2070s as well. They're kinda in the middle. They're right there where "if you have the budget for it, go the extra few bucks for the 80" kinda thing

[woven tartan]

hm

[unkempt crater]

Ye

[woven tartan]

not like i need that anyway i only program and some gaming on my pc

[unkempt crater]

Mmmm

Yeah

I would definitely do 1660ti then

[woven tartan]

well when my 2060 goes out ill get it lol

[unkempt crater]

2060 also has a lot of features that only help in gaming so yeah

[woven tartan]

yeah like with rtx

isnt it faster than a 1070?

[unkempt crater]

A bit

[lone pond]

if anyone here is looking for a decent GPU for like 60 bucks within the next 22 hours there's this untouched bid on ebay for an R9 390 (underperforms the Rx 480 a little)
https://www.ebay.com/itm/352878699309

[tender mulch]

RTX does not help with gaming

It only enables ray tracing. And trust me when I say ray tracing gaming on a 2060 sucks even at 1080p

[unkempt crater]

Well it depends on what you mean by 'helps with gaming'

Would you say 1080p support 'helps with gaming'?

[tender mulch]

No

[unkempt crater]

Because that's all 1080p is, a feature that you turn on

[lone pond]

The RT cores aren't as discrete or non-participant during gaming loads as people seem to think.

[unkempt crater]

If all you care about is fps

[tender mulch]

Still, the RTX 2060 isn't worth the money when the 5700 is just a tad more

[unkempt crater]

Sure

[spare relic]

gtx 1080p kinda fine tho 😳

[unkempt crater]

I'm just saying that RT cores do help with games

[tender mulch]

And Ray Tracing on a 2060 is a joke with low FPS. It's poopy. Regrettable purchase

[unkempt crater]

True

On 2060s I wouldn't say rtx was worth it

But it's also more than just a stupid gimmick

[tender mulch]

The whole RTX 2060 isn't worth it

with all the other options out there

[unkempt crater]

So don't buy one

[tender mulch]

I did right when they came out. 😛

[lone pond]

This sure makes it look like ray tracing is done at the engine level via direct X, the Turing cards are just incredibly good at all kinds of tranditional gpu compute, but oder+ of magnitude faster at half/mixed precision

Idk how muchthe latter has anything to do with rtx, I don't care for rtx either

https://devblogs.microsoft.com/directx/announcing-microsoft-directx-raytracing/

Almost forgot

[hard wren]

its just really new I think it will be a game changer in 5-10 years which yes by then we will all have new cards

[tender mulch]

Ray Tracing is done at the engine level. It's an engine thing. Tensor cores are just great at processing it in real time.

[wicked hound]

well, they're great for what we have now

[lone pond]

RT cores != tensor cores, there's two execution piplies (terminology?) per SM, 4 tensor cores, 1 RT

[tender mulch]

Eh, kind of. Still a huge perofrmance hit and need improvement

[hard wren]

I like the idea of it

[lone pond]

Remember, volta /gv100 has Tensor cores but no RT

[tender mulch]

AH, true

[lone pond]

Speaking of which - I'm salty I didn't buy that engineering sample card on ebay

My friend did though, so I hope it's legit, even if it's bricked

[hard wren]

Save developers time while increasing lighting quality just needs more implementation and AMD needs to onboard too

[tender mulch]

I thought AMD would do ray tracing with a Driver update, or is that not a thing anymore?

[lone pond]

Navi was enough of a leap in gaming focused performance I'm happy

[hard wren]

I think it will hurt the performance of their cards too much to add to current cards

not like rtx is a great experience on comparable Nvidia cards anyway

[tender mulch]

WQell, we don't know that. AMD is a completely different architecture that may handle it better.

[lone pond]

Well, pretty much everyone in HPC uses cuda, just inertia of consensus at this point, unsure what course AMD could take for the pro market/HPC

[hard wren]

@tender mulch that is true we wont really know til they make a move

[tender mulch]

They could come out guns blazing like they did at Intel

[hard wren]

I know that AMD was really pushing for a software form of RTX

[lone pond]

Most people I talk to don't really hate opencl, they just candidly admit it's junk for their goals sadly. Both intel and AMD chips, as well as Nvidia cards can run opencl as well, idk how well compared to AMD gpu though.

The gpupi for CPU benchmark would be a good test

[hard wren]

which with their CPUs is probably a good direction plenty of extra cores sitting around when you play a game

[tender mulch]

I remember when OpenGL was king for a short time

Better than DirectX

[hard wren]

OpenGL was awesome back in the day

[lone pond]

Same, I had a 5870 lol. big boi card

[tender mulch]

Well, RTX is a software thing, it's getting the hardware to process it fast enough is the thing

Ah, I had the 5850

[hard wren]

yeah I guess I meant more using the CPU for the work not the GPU

[tender mulch]

Takes a huge amount of processing power to calculate the rays, etc

[lone pond]

5770's were like the 580 onlaunch, nice value

Streaming was a non factor then

[tender mulch]

I went from the 5850 to the 970 to the 2060

[unkempt crater]

I'm still running a 1050ti

[tender mulch]

I think on the 5850 I wasn't even at 1080p

1050TI is pretty decent and overclocks really well

[lone pond]

5870 was a miner for me, had 4890, two 560ti's, 780, then a bunch of pascal / 1 580 miners

[unkempt crater]

True

[lone pond]

I want a 1050 ti for a work pc tbh. Maybe a 1030

[tender mulch]

I was at 1280x1024 on the 5850 lol

Ah, those were the days

[unkempt crater]

My craptop runs 768p :p

That has a igpu r7

High power computing ik

[tender mulch]

I think our laptop is still on Windows Vista LMAO

We never use it

[unkempt crater]

Nice

[lone pond]

Lol v100 https://browser.geekbench.com/opencl-benchmarks

[tender mulch]

O.o

whoa

[hard wren]

ATI wonder >voodoo2> geforce 3>Radeon HD 3000>GTX 285> 480gtx > 980 > 2080ti my GPU timeline LOL

[lone pond]

I still beat it haha. Not viable for 24/7 though. https://browser.geekbench.com/v5/compute/3152

icue crashed and now my keyboard is in a frozen state of changing colors from left to right and ngl it looks pretty sweet\

[tender mulch]

SIdeways rainbow puke style?

[lone pond]

Someone should sell external ws2818b controllers made from $10 of arduino and aliexpress IC's, avoid the corsair malware altogether

[hard wren]

I like logitechs lighting software

[tender mulch]

jeebus

That score is twice mine lol

[lone pond]

The geekbench head dev is a real prick, parted ways with benchmate/hwbot sadly. Geekbench 3 is still a great cpu/mem multicore bench though.

[wicked hound]

@lone pond sorry for this slightly late response, but Im fairly sure I heard that the Volta could do RTX, tested on some game and didnt have as good perf as an RTX card, but was much better than say a 1080Ti

[lone pond]

Seems like it, check out the technet blog up there somewhere, old, but I really like that site

[remote venture]

I have a Ryzen 5 2600, what would be a good graphics card top match it?

[brisk flame]

anything, really

whats your budget?

[remote venture]

i am not sure, pretty much 400

[brisk flame]

what kinda games do you want to play?

could you give a few examples

[remote venture]

Modern Warfare, CS:GO, PUBG, Rust

[brisk flame]

what monitor do you have

like resolution and refresh rate

if you dont know its fine, its probably no more than 1080p

60hz

you could get away with just a 1660 super or ti if you dont want to spend a ton of money

[unkempt crater]

2070 seems a bit overkill for 1080/60

[brisk flame]

in the 260 dollar price range

plus, no reason to spend 400 just because you can

[remote venture]

I am planning on upgrading my monitor too, but right now 1920x1080 and 60hz refresh

[unkempt crater]

Yup

Same

[brisk flame]

im runnin 1440x900

[remote venture]

oof

[brisk flame]

yeah

my games run good tho lol

[remote venture]

what ur specs

[brisk flame]

im on my laptop rn because im in the process of building my next pc

but

its a i5-6500U

Intel HD 520

[unkempt crater]

I have a 1440x900 75hz as a second display

[brisk flame]

i have 2 of those

[unkempt crater]

It's not as bad as it sounds tbh

[brisk flame]

mines an older TN panel, but this monitor was before TN was the crappy budget option

so its actually decent quality

anyway

https://www.amazon.com/MSI-GeForce-GTX-1660-Ti/dp/B07N824KNV/ref=sr_1_1?keywords=1660+ti&qid=1576037583&sr=8-1

@remote venture

something like this will have no problem running most games at 1080p@60hz

plus you save muns

[abstract vapor]

Does anyone have any impressive demos compatible with windows 7?

[unkempt crater]

demos ?

[abstract vapor]

yeah, tech demos

I tried running some ray tracing ones and they all demand windows 10 😦

[tender mulch]

That's because they require DX12

[abstract vapor]

darn. This is definitely one of the big reasons I want to build a new computer

[unkempt crater]

You could use Linux

[abstract vapor]

I could but my linux machine is crap and I need to build a new computer anyway

[lilac adder]

recommended gpu for todays gaming?

[spare relic]

gt 7300

[ancient crystal]

depends on games and also on what exactly you want to do in terms of resolution and framerate

[muted mica]

Say id wanna play just monster hunter world in max settings with the hd texture pack mod on, what should i gun for?

Im currently looking at a used 1070 (bought by owner just this august) and a brand new 1660ti

Idrk how much of a difference those cards have aside from the 2-5fps difference i keep seeing at benchmark sites

[ancient crystal]

i'd buy the new card because it's new

and also uses less power and makes less heat

but are you planning on doing this on 1080p?

[muted mica]

Mmmmm but how about the vram?

Yes

[ancient crystal]

the vram is about the same, right?

[muted mica]

Actually gonna use the ultra wide screen resolution too

1660ti has 6gb as opposed to 1070’s 8

[ancient crystal]

okay if you're getting into ultrawide you might look into a different card entirely

[muted mica]

Its just the screen ratio, not the resolution

[ancient crystal]

yes but it's still a higher resolution

because there are more pixels

[muted mica]

Yes

[ancient crystal]

your ultrawide is almost as demanding as a 1440p display

[muted mica]

Im playing it rn with my 1050ti on same settings aside from the hd texture mod

Managing around 40-45

[ancient crystal]

so you have to take into account maybe you need a 2060 Super or a 5700 XT

that HD texture pack will be heavy

[muted mica]

Hrmm

How about if i dont use it?

[ancient crystal]

if you don't use it, get a 1660 Super (it has GDDR6!) and that should be plenty for your gaming needs

[muted mica]

1660 super and not the ti?

Ill check if we have that in the country lol

We have, nice

[ancient crystal]

being outside the US/UK/more affluent parts of the EU parts hunting can get weird

hell, even in those areas it can be a challenge

in the US there's a big shortage of parts because of "cyber monday" sales

i hate to leave you hanging but i need to at least try going to bed

it's 3AM here

[muted mica]

Lmao

Thanks, and thats more than enough info to get me going, good night

[lone pond]

Hey guys, do you think i should go for a 1660ti or rtx 2060, the performance difference is minimal but there is rtx.., problem is idk if its worth it, also there is the fps drop. Would love your opinion

[swift valve]

1660ti

[worldly crow]

@lone pond if u want to better looking graphics go for 2060 but dont turn dxr over low cause the ammount of ray tracing depends on edition of card like 60,70,80 or 80ti series

[digital heath]

Does anyone of my EU buddies have any experiece with the evga RMA?

[tender mulch]

RTX on the 2060 is garbage. I have one. It's gross

[spare relic]

2060 is gonna be one of those cards that's really common isn't it

[hoary pollen]

Are the rumors true that AMD is going to put raytracing on their cards? In view of this info would it be a good idea to just wait for the price drop for 2080ti? I am Holding out on a good deal for 2080ti.

[tender mulch]

1440p gaming or 4K?

[lean crystal]

Does the 1060 have ray tracing?

[tender mulch]

no

[granite juniper]

only 20xx cards do

[tender mulch]

You don't want to use Ray tracing on anything less than a 2070

[lean crystal]

Oof

[tender mulch]

I have a 2060

The FPS using ray tracing is terrible

For the money, I should have waited and gone 5700XT

[granite juniper]

^ that

[worldly crow]

idk about EU but i have RMA EVGA before and its pretty simple. u fill out the rma and they send u a tag then you mail it off

[granite juniper]

caps lock :V

[fallen schooner]

lol.

[worldly crow]

@tender mulch what settings is your dxr on did u set ray tracing to low or higher?

and resolution matters too

[tender mulch]

1080p

It was gross either way

[worldly crow]

u can only get minimal rt with 2060 it only has 6gb

[tender mulch]

Right, which is why if you really have to have Ray Tracing you should go 2070 or better

THe performance hit is oof

[fallen schooner]

must be nice to RTX.

[tender mulch]

Not rly

[fallen schooner]

[tender mulch]

I bought into the hype. It wasn't worth it. :/

[fallen schooner]

it will be.

so you're ahead of the game.

[worldly crow]

2060 super does it fine its basically a 2070

im just gonna buy a local used rtx 2080 for 500 or less or ima wait for 3070

[spare relic]

local rtx 2080 in your area wanting to play games with you

[tender mulch]

Ray Tracing is just hype right now anyway. Needs a bit more maturation to be what it should. Although once MS does RT in Minecraft, I'll bet that sells a TON of RTX cards.

[spice prawn]

@tender mulch the real mover for raytracing will be the next generation of consoles.

that might not be something people like to hear, however, it is the only way that makes any real sense from a Dev pov.

[glossy cloak]

1030 best card ever

[tender mulch]

That's going to depend entirely on whether or not the Devs utilize the RT hardware. if the performance is poor, I can't really see it. At this point, it's a hurry up and wait. I do agree that if it works well on consoles it will bring to market more quickly.

[spice prawn]

not quite the point @tender mulch

IF consoles have RT hardware (seems likely). It will give devs an incentive to work with it.

[ancient crystal]

uh kind of, it just has terrible performance

responding to something earlier because discord doesn't know how to scroll down

[fallen schooner]

I hate when that happens

makes ya look like a goobhead lol

[spice prawn]

you can delete you comment or edit it :)

[fallen schooner]

or roll with it 😛

[spice prawn]

aye aye

[lone pond]

Those are some interesting theories up there

[hard wren]

reminds me of when PhsyX came out and everyone was so divisive about it LOL Now its open source and used in every game we play...

[spice prawn]

yes, it was FINALLY made open, after 10 years of nvidia jumping around with a stick in a dark place

[ancient crystal]

when will nvidia just adopt freesync instead of using it and calling it "g-sync compatible"

literally any freesync monitor (almost) will work with that

[spice prawn]

basically now

[ancient crystal]

g-sync makes monitors expensive

i paid $250 for my freesync monitor and it works well for my piddly little GTX 1650

[spice prawn]

https://www.tftcentral.co.uk/blog/nvidia-open-up-support-for-adaptive-sync-freesync-for-future-native-g-sync-module-screens/ <- here @ancient crystal

[ancient crystal]

neat

FreeSync is just VESA adaptive sync eh lol

gotta brand everything

[fallen schooner]

lol

[spice prawn]

sighs

[lone pond]

In the same way that water is VossⓇ

[ancient crystal]

but who drinks that stuff

well evidently a lot of people, given how much of it my local grocery store stocks

[lone pond]

Some of you don't drink your own RO, distilled, and DI filtered 18 MΩ water and it shows

[ancient crystal]

you just summed up PC elitism in one small comment

[hard wren]

I just drink tap water 😳

[fallen schooner]

🤢

[ancient crystal]

i filter my tap water because here there be some awful stuff in it

[fallen schooner]

flint mich?

[ancient crystal]

Butte, MT

also the butt jokes never get old and always make me laugh

we have a store here aimed at tourists (we have tourists, yes) called Butte Stuff

[lone pond]

Real answer, I do use a small RO system for drinking water because

[ancient crystal]

oof

[lone pond]

TBH that's just rust in the sediment stage. But it's 400+ ppm magnesium and calcium chlorides I'd guess + a few ppm of chloramines and classic *town I live in water main flavor.

[ancient crystal]

i just use a regular brita filter

there is this super brita filter that takes out more stuff but it's incredibly slow to produce water

[lone pond]

Brita does a great job of soacking up the chlorine taste, heavy metals if present, the rest isn't inherently bad for you, but I don't like the taste.

[hard wren]

Little heavy metals and some fluoride is good for you 🤪

[lone pond]

Ya, at 60 psi it makes about 60 gals/day, I run it to a 5 gal pressurized accumulator tank - then to tap.

[ancient crystal]

you can have little a heavy metals

also i avoid fluoride in my toothpaste because there is such an abundance in the water

[lone pond]

True, even I own an Asus Strix board, we all have our "moments"

Fluoride depends on municipality. Mine does not, but old pipes, older house, also I like a good #diwhy

[hard wren]

I wouldnt avoid fluoride personally it would take an awful lot to become toxic

[lone pond]

I used some of the parts on a water loop

[fallen schooner]

just drink FIJI water

[lone pond]

IDk, the fluoride / neurotoxicity debate is probably best left to a politics chat

[ancient crystal]

fiji water exploits workers in almost-slave labor on the island of Fiji

why is that politics

[fallen schooner]

huh?

[lone pond]

So, how about those Knights Landing cards? Xeon Phi > 5700xt CMV

[hard wren]

@fallen schooner perpetuating slavery with his FIJI waters LOL

[fallen schooner]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[ancient crystal]

knights landing cards what

also i think anytime someone recommends fiji water it's a joke

[fallen schooner]

I was kidna serious, it taste great.

but yeah, about those GPUs.

amirite.

[hard wren]

intel gpus?

[fallen schooner]

🤢

[ancient crystal]

i couldn't go for the intel thing running a DX load

[lone pond]

So, aside from evian, fiji, etc - the rest just RO filter the water down to single digit ppm and then add trace minerals for taste. I do the same. Dasani, deer park etc

[ancient crystal]

evian is pretty strongly mineralized, i actually like it quite a bit

also if intel ever produced a real desktop GPU i'd be interested

like if they used the same tech as in their CPUs but expanded it

[lone pond]

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Intel-Xeon-Phi-71S1P-Server-Coprocessor-61-Core-1-1Ghz-8GB-like-7110P-7120-SE10P/293325701164

[ancient crystal]

oh i know what that is

[lone pond]

Server equipment is so insanely cheap rn

[ancient crystal]

it isn't good as a CPU iirc though

er GPU

[spice prawn]

depends on what GPU task you want it to do :)

[unkempt crater]

⬆️

[hard wren]

well since it doesnt even have video outs LOL

[unkempt crater]

Something something LTT video

[ancient crystal]

something something LTT merchandise and madrinas coffee

[lone pond]

I don't get it

[unkempt crater]

Really

Huh

[spice prawn]

mind, the stuff where Phi has excelled (taken from memory) is research for the sake of research areas.

[unkempt crater]

https://youtu.be/um-1fAVU1OQ

[lone pond]

Sounds like HPC to me, what's our definition?

[spice prawn]

also, was there not a couple of deployments from the super computer list ? (edit: added marks)

[lone pond]

Yep, and working pulls are being dumped on ebay for $100 for a reason. They're not junk, I think they're quite cool. Actually...

I see what happened now. If not yet apparent, I brought up the obviously non-sensical comparison between a dedicated compute accelerator card vs a the other half of the 2070 super debate to avoid more politics in #graphics-cards

[fallen schooner]

DP cable

swapped to hdmi and it went away

[lone pond]

New DP cable in the mail?

[fallen schooner]

nah not yet

lol

[lone pond]

heads or tails

[spice prawn]

belly rubs

[fallen schooner]

heedz

[spice prawn]

always belly rubs

[fallen schooner]

I've got so many hdmi cables

not using this monitor for g-sync so it's all good

[lone pond]

I guess those cards will be around for a while - I do want to play with one one day haha

DP master race

[fallen schooner]

true

other monitor is DP

the one I game on

this is just for discord

[lone pond]

a 2080 ti ftw3 b stock is 929 evga ... can we please get theo in on that

[fallen schooner]

he is waiting for 3080

[lone pond]

ti*

[fallen schooner]

ye ye ye,

[lone pond]

I'll just try sell him mine on Ampere launch

[drowsy shell]

Which cpu would you pair with 2070 super

[unkempt crater]

3600? (AMD)

8700k? (Intel)

[ancient crystal]

3600 if you're just gaming

if you don't need a kickin' cpu anyway

3700 maybe if you want more cores and threads

i'm firmly stuck on AMD, i don't honestly know enough about intel to recommend any of their CPUs anymore

the last time i used intel was SBR

[unkempt crater]

Fair enough

But for those stuck on the platform

8700k is 9700k but with SMT

[drowsy shell]

On a budget

Can afford the 3700x

But with b450 Mobo

[ancient crystal]

if you can afford the 3700x just get it, B450 is completely fine

[drowsy shell]

Cheers

[unkempt crater]

You won't have pcie 4

So if you care about that

[drowsy shell]

Also will these work together

[unkempt crater]

?

[drowsy shell]

https://www.overclockers.co.uk/crucial-mx500-1tb-3d-nand-sata-pcie-m.2-solid-state-drive-hd-06f-cr.html with the b450

I don’t care about that

[hushed stirrup]

Do pcie4 really make so much difference?

[unkempt crater]

YES

2x better EVERYTHING

but both sides have to be compatible

So unless your using a pcie 4 device

Than it doesn't matter

And @drowsy shell so long as the motherboard has a sata m.2 connector

That should be fine

[drowsy shell]

Pcie 4 is overpriced and overrated

[unkempt crater]

Overpriced yes

Overrated?...

40gbs up and down

I wouldn't exactly call that overrated

[lone pond]

I appreciate x570's inclusion of 4 additional pcie lanes (gen 4, at that ) to the traditional 16+4. If you really like your storage bandwidth, sure, it's worth it. Gaming seldome loses fun due to that problem.

[abstract monolith]

Don’t get angry with me about this but would an rtx 2060 work decent with a r7 2700x

[grim nymph]

hhheeeellllpppp!!! I've been at this for 2 hours >< I can't install the latest nvidia drivers, nor the geforce experience drivers. I now have them all completely uninstalled and can't install them as it fails every single time, and the website isn't helping

[fallen schooner]

@grim nymph https://www.guru3d.com/files-details/display-driver-uninstaller-download.html

follow directions, then try to reinstall drivers.

🙂

[grim nymph]

thanks 9001x 😄

[lone pond]

DCH or standard?

[grim nymph]

Standard

[grim nymph]

still can't

also no old version downloads work either

[lone pond]

https://www.techpowerup.com/download/techpowerup-nvcleanstall/

[sand sorrel]

2060 super or 2070 super?

Looking to play games 1080p

not so much triple AAA games

Maybe few

Render

and stream

[charred forge]

I think either one is gonna be super OP for what you're trying to do

[abstract dome]

I have the msi ventus 2060 super that thing will crush anything at 1080p

[lone pond]

If you wanna play on 1080p a 1060 will be enough tbh...

[little slate]

Eh, a 1060 won't do 144 fps in triple-a titles even at 1080p

But then again that would probably be cpu bottleneck

[wicked hound]

2060S, 2070S is a bit better for 25% more cost

[sand sorrel]

Well 25% more

It costs 100$ more

And I don't think 100$ more is worth for +15% performance

At least that is what I think

I don't know if 2060s is enough for my needs

Maybe is, maybe not

[wicked hound]

It's less that 15% more perf

more like 7% - 10%

[lone pond]

Is the 2080 super too overkill for 1080p gaming and vr?

[unkempt crater]

1080p absolutely

Vr it depends

What games are you playing and what headset are you using

[fallen schooner]

2060S would be perfect for 1080p

[lone pond]

Rift S and games like Beat Saber, Tales of Glory etc

[unkempt crater]

Yeah a 2080 is overkill

By a lot

If you don't feel safe with a 2060 super maybe just go for a 2070-2070Super

[lone pond]

True I may aswell do that

[summer peak]

2060s is honestly overkill for 1080p unless you're going for like 240hz

2060s will play any VR game on a rift s btw

it's just 2560x1440

[peak pasture]

Thats overestimating a 2060S.

Even on older titles like overwatch and GTA V, a 2060S only gets you close and not fully to 144hz

[lone pond]

So if I went for a 2060 or 2080, which cards would y'all recommend?

[peak pasture]

2080S if you could use that much. Wouldnt personally get a 2080TI for its price over the super.

[lone pond]

I meant super *

Yeah I agree with that

But I really don't know what to get gpu wise, I've got all the other parts sorted

[peak pasture]

Well what games are you intending to play, at what res and what framerate?

[lone pond]

Well quite a lot of triple A titles, but most likely games like Rise of the Tomb Raider, Gta V, Rust, The Forest etc.
Ideally 144 framerate and 1080p

[peak pasture]

Id get a 2080S.

[lone pond]

Yep but which one would you suggest?

[peak pasture]

Box convinced me to get the EVGA 2080S Super XC

[lone pond]

Was it any good?

[peak pasture]

No idea, waiting on a 3950X preorder because its out of stock everywhere.

But, EVGA RMA process is e-z apparently.

[lone pond]

Oh right I'll look into that then, building my first computer so ya

[summer peak]

@peak pasture all depends on the game. Something like CSGO? ez.

[peak pasture]

CS:Go runs at a million FPS on 997 potatoes though

[austere owl]

hi

does it matter what kind of brand i get for gpu? like 2070 super?

[unkempt crater]

Mostly the only change is the cooler

Check reviews

Look at boost clocks

There's not much more to third party cards

[spice prawn]

noise

noise is the main difference between third party cards

[unkempt crater]

That too

But they don't usually show that on the product page

So you'd probably need to check reviews

[spice prawn]

and IF they show, it is a useless number.

because there is no context for it.

[unkempt crater]

Yup

[slender vigil]

What should i get Asus 2070 Strix or Asus 2070 S Strix

[fallen schooner]

STRIX

[slender vigil]

there both strix

🤦‍♂️

[fallen schooner]

super

😄

dont you face palm me mister.

or misses.

[slender vigil]

am i able to return 2070 one because someone got the order messed up 😂

[spice prawn]

hey, it should be us facepalming, you are the one listening to a box :P

[fallen schooner]

did you order from newegg?

[slender vigil]

Yes

[fallen schooner]

contact @cursive urchin

🙂

if your order is messed up

[slender vigil]

Not that my dad got the wrong one

[fallen schooner]

oooh

what'd you get?

[slender vigil]

I sent him a link to 2070 S but he thought he was getting something better and he got Asus 2070 Strix O8GB

[fallen schooner]

oh, just keep it really

[slender vigil]

Alr hopefully it does not break down since the reviews are horrible

[fallen schooner]

S is tiny improvement, I don't think it'd be worth going through the trouble of returning

also Newegg has a nifty "compare" feature

you can check both cards and click compare

[slender vigil]

alr

[fallen schooner]

it'll put em side by side

aIr?

oh nm

[slender vigil]

im looking for it

[fallen schooner]

https://www.newegg.com/Product/Productcompare?CompareItemList=14-126-330%2C14-126-266

that one

2070 / 2070 super

has a bit more cuda cores and core/boost clock speeds

[slender vigil]

Ye i see that

[fallen schooner]

supports sli if you go x2

[slender vigil]

Thing i'm worry is about how fast they did 2070 and it has big chance to break down

[tender mulch]

Naw

[slender vigil]

https://www.newegg.com/asus-geforce-rtx-2070-rog-strix-rtx2070-o8g-gaming/p/N82E16814126266?Item=N82E16814126266 look at the reviews 😂

[tender mulch]

Meh. Who knows what power supply or other factors were involved

Newegg, Amazon and most other reviews are questionable because there is literally no information

[fallen schooner]

huh?

[tender mulch]

For the GPU'

s failing.

[slender vigil]

My dad thought o8gb is better then a8gb which is true if it was 2070 s too

[tender mulch]

Check out Gamers Nexus or JayZ for card teardowns and real reviews

[fallen schooner]

well if you're not worried about waiting

[tender mulch]

Particularly Gamers Nexus. He literally rips them apart

[fallen schooner]

it does seem that type super is better than the regualr

super advanced overclock

lol

[tender mulch]

Super is binned and clocked standard, yes

[slender vigil]

anyways when i get it ill tell him this is wrong and see what he says lol

bc i accitdently found out i was getting it and they were trying to surprise me so not going to say anything until i actually get it tmr

[fallen schooner]

'accidentally' eh

[slender vigil]

rn i have a EVGA 1070 FTW

[fallen schooner]

oh man evga 2070S black on sale with 10 off promo code

[slender vigil]

asus has a 20 off

[fallen schooner]

plus rebate card

[lone pond]

I know I'm annoying with this recurring question but this is my last time asking

GTX 1060 6gb
OR
RX 480 and use that extra 50 bucks for other peripherals (maybe new webcam ?)

I have a webcam as of now but it's that $20 720p Logitech one

actually nvm

gtx 1060 it is

[summer peak]

@lone pond the 1060 6gb will give you about 10% more performance, though it depends on the game for sure.

[lone pond]

Yeah

[summer peak]

either way, not a bad choice whichever you go with

[lone pond]

I'm gonna be using a Ryzen 3 2200G

So I might have a little bottleneck

[summer peak]

nah you should be okay

[lone pond]

alright

I'm mainly looking at the hardware encoding for OBS

[summer peak]

👍

go nvidia then

[lone pond]

yee

And if there is a teeny bottleneck, that should (in theory) clear some headroom for more hardware encoding

Simple Question- What is the best graphics card to get for a $400 budget and a $500 budget?

[hard wren]

5700xt or 2070S

[lone pond]

Alright

Thank you

[hard wren]

might be more of a 5700 if trying to stick to that 400 and not go over

[lone pond]

ok

[summer peak]

@lone pond rx 5700xt if you don't want to stream, 2060 super you want to stream and use nvenc/hardware encoding

[lone pond]

Thank you

What about 2070S @summer peak