#graphics-cards
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ohh ok
does it have an extra two pin that will make it an 8 pin
i have x2 6+2 pins
A 1060 doesnt need 375w
i have a 4 pin fan header 🤔
I have (x4) 6+2 pins. Will that work with ANY graphics card? @hard wren @cerulean rover @wicked hound @lean crystal
for the card
yes
one 8 pin PCIe is 150w and the PCIe port is 75w
@frozen pebble yes it will work
if this is the correct card, heres
yea thats mine
its the cord thats important not the card...
with any GPU? even the latest and greatest? @lean crystal
yes
aux yes
yep any card will be fine
most psus come with the ability to cable 2 2060s
doesn't the titan rtx only use 8+8? theres prob not going to be any more pins required
well, provided your PSU is powerful enough as well
alright thanks Nibbo
6+2 = 8
@wicked hound brought a 700w today
Which model tho?
Is the brand/model good?
EVGA makes good and bad PSUs tho
alright
BR or W1 from EVGA for example are bad
dont recognize it so ima leave it to others.
I have a evga g2 750w, which I've been told is good
yeah my friend has the same psu as me, i7-6700k and 2060
G2 is decent. G3 is funnily enough, worse than G2
lol
Ya worse than G2
so, crossfire and sli both slowly fading out correct?
Kolink has ok reviews recommended for miners lol. Has no power switch and its noisy but good quality low temps and tons of connectors
750 should last me like forever right
Hmm how much more is needed?
depends on the gpu cpus you plan to use in the future 750 is fine for most applications
2000 just to be sure
LOL
in case they release rocket gpu
I'm just going for mid-high end rn so prob gon be fine
Nah 2100
Thats what you need
my 1000w is overkill
let me have it then.
it is box shaped...
omg I really want it now.
I mean the 12v on that Kolink PSU is only 576w. So not really a full 700w PSU
still enough for your needs, but still kinda meh there
I dont know looks like that 12v can deliver 125A lol according to toms hardware
says the 5vsb rail is almost worthless though
says to be real careful with the 8pin connectors as they are not labeled Dont put an EPS cable into a PCIe socket lol
shouldnt line up but you could force it in
Hi guys, I know I have this before. I’ve had loads people say that what you guys are recommending me is bad and I should not get as its: old, not good for FPS etc. Now I’m sorry for the inconvenience and I ask, what is the best GPU for Loads of FPS. I’m currently running at 130 FPS and want more.
Thanks and sorry for the inconvenience
Please @ me
@frozen pebble please explain... What's your budget, what's your resolution, what's your refresh rate
Like best of the best go 2080ti sli
Budget is $280 , resolution I play fortnite all low settings like competitive settings no shadows etc all low settings. I play 144hz. 1920x1080. Want a GPU that can get me loads of FPS @cerulean rover
280$ quick guess maybe rx580?
@lone pond atm I have 1050Ti
those are under $200 usd now, he can get more than that
Maybe 1660ti if you like nvidia
I haven't looked at rx580s in a while I'm not too familiar with amd pricing
you should throw your brand loyalty out the window tbh
Wubs I'm sticking to Nvidia until AMD gives better higher end options
@cerulean rover @lone pond so what’s the best for loads of FPS. Budget is 300
we;'re not talking about high end cards, if you have a big budget and need the power, then yes nvidia is really your only choice
I'm on mobile rn but maybe a pre-oced 1660ti
but he's asking about budget cards lol
Wubs I'm really unfamiliar with amd low end cards so ima leave that to you
a 5700 will probably suit you well but then you're just price creeping up cuz those are ~$330
otherwise an rx580 is plenty fine for basic esports stuff
Isn't there a 590 now?
it's just a boosted rx580
Aight
hardly see the point in paying them extra for what you can manually overclock
that's a silly way to buy things but if you refuse to buy an amd card you're looking at like a 1660 super
@lone pond if it’s the graphics saying over locked on the listing, does it mean I don’t have to manually over clock@or can I?
Oh does that mean it’s more performance
i mean marginal, as in not significant
Wubs I havnt looked at mid end at all recently, care to educate me on whats up with the AMD vs Nvidia for lower end cards?
Uhh idrk tbh lol
Lol
AMD's low level cards are solid, pretty competitive
I mean specifics
Which has more FPS within 1660Ti and 1660 super
for the super entry level like, sub-$250 gpus i think they're pretty compelling
the 1660 super
is the card you want if you absolutely insist on going nvidia
All I remember is rx580 being around 200$ and was a solid pick
How much are 2060
not worth it really
Oh
on that kind of budget
Is it as good as 1660 super or 1660Ti
I don’t want amd
@lone pond hmm im confused which one to go for and what brand is the best for FPS
1660 super right
Or different one
Don’t mind upping my price
evga, msi are the brands iw ould get
For more FPS
dude you're like
Alright thanks
No lol
Best version of 2070 super?
ok
What about the 980Ti? @lone pond
don't bother
Why?
because it's old, used hardware
good on FPS?
when a 1660 will perform comprably
So your saying 10-5 FPS difference from upgrading from a 1050Ti right?
no, i am saying you're splitting hairs thinking about what gpu to get because the ones your comparing are so similar in performance
you will see a significant uplift over your 1050ti
As in FPS correct?
...yes
Alright
Im on your track now
I understand
evga, msi are the brands I should get right?
those are the brands i have had good luck with
Which one is the better one out of those
i have used msi cards in previous builds but my current one has an evga card
I have msi mobo, gpu, and monitor
afaik yea
Yeah cool
I’ll start researching on 1660 super correct? @lone pond
And how much do they go for on eBay
I have to be careful of the life span left also lol
1660 super should be fine
it's new enough that the likelyhood of being mining card is VERY low
(On ebay)
Yea
From Amazon?
whoever is cheapest
eBay would be cheaper
I like new egg because I pay for shipping
theres always some risk on the used market
i ordered my 3900x at 7pm on a tuesday, it was at my door at 10am wedensday
feels pretty spoiled man
grats
and once i'm done installing it
I'm gonna ....
DO NOTHING
because why did I upgrade my cpu
I have no idea
Also what GDDR should I get? The highest possible? @lone pond @cerulean rover
@ me also
I only receive @ notifications
I mean
GDDR6 the best?
Best 2070 super variant?
@frozen pebble 1660 super should all have gddr6
Smelly the "best" is prob like expensive one thats not really worth
And as some people in here like to say, 5700xt might be a better choice
not sure if it's the best choice but it definitely offers more value
like, if you're running a lower end CPU and want to stream, the 2070 (all nvidia cards for that matter since...uh, maxwell?) have a dedicated encode/decode chip so that you can stream on lower end CPUs
Is a OC Super 1660 good?
so there are some edge case scenarios
you're overthinking it man lol just buy one of these two cards and call it good https://www.evga.com/products/productlist.aspx?type=0&family=GeForce+16+Series+Family&chipset=GTX+1660+Super
No I mean is Oc super better than super
i think i'm gonna get an RX 5700 XT
there are lots of things i'd recommend but if you're not open to AMD it's kind of limited
With what we've discussed so far, thats gonna be it
I wouldn't say significantly more power
It's about 10-15% faster
it's still a good deal, though.
@lone pond @cerulean rover I couldn’t get that link u sent me
It’s only USA only
1-3 shipping
I found this
looks nice
ventus is just a name
it's a 1660 super
yea it is
ventus XS is just the name of the cooler
this will perform on par with a 2060 super
if you can push your budget a bit more
That’s $350 lol
no it isn't?

It's due to seller and location
That’s look hella cheap I can buy this straight away
wierd brand
Palit everyone knows
never heard of it
MSI is a better bet
Amazon will change seller if the seller cant ship to their location
Aux I've never heard of palit lol
that fan looks cheap lol
also the ventus was dual fan and bigger heatsink
I’d buy that right now lmao
months
Yeah but it’s a USA product from a USA seller
not worth waiting for imo lol
weird
I'm in the US and
shifty
Pololol
Gg
Omg hahahahhha
I found the exact same one at my local store
40 cheaper
I’m buying this right now
Reason: Bad word usage
Damn
10 cheaper
dude it's...$10
i would personally just get it not off ebay
so if i have any issues it's easier to deal with
i have no idea what that is but if they're some actual reputable etailer then that's fine
they'll all be within a few bucks of eachother, that's about what they all cost
between the different types of 1660 supers? literally zero
just get the cheapest one
oh wait
one is a super and one is not
he means relative to what he has now and there will be some differences based on how good cooling is and/or factory overclock
dunno, 30% more fps give or take
So like extra 40fps?
welp, theres gonna be a huge jump between the 1050ti and the 1660 super
but again those differences will be marginal and probably only noticeable if logged
@frozen pebble we dont talk about fps here, we talk about relative performance, please stop talking about fps
fps is quite literally a meaningless term
fps wins games
Lol
you haven't seen nvidia new slogan?
More FPS, more smoother more easier
Me and FPS
but it isnt the deciding factor
I listen to the big company
I don't listen to small ppl like you
if I have 100000 fps I can win against shroud
duh
well, if your playing at 12, then you cant play really at all
@brisk flame yeah but when you run 130 FPS all game + stutters and you want a new GPU that can get you more FPS then yah
And When your trying to discuss
but anything above 60 only gives a slight competitive edge
the thing is
even when you use excessive frames
the extra frames that you don't see
helps smoothen the response time
so more fps will always be beneficial
regardless
Yup
yes, but we arent here to talk about video games, were here in this chat to talk about graphics cards. that in some way does imply video games, but we arent talking about that
But video cards are sometimes based on gaming if your upgrading
im saying, that if you have a GTX 1050ti, and you want better performance in a game, you get a more powerful gpu
it's within the topic of discussion
@brisk flame that’s what we are exactly talking about!!!
you can get a 2080
YeAhhh
yes
decent choice for sure
so when i say a 1660 super is a good buy, im saying you will see increased performance in most gpu bound programs
1660 super is the king at the 250-300 range
Yeah
aka video games
Yup
what no
👋
Lmaooooo
I've said it before and I'll say it again I only care about what's good for consumers
I have no brand loyalty
AMD is just in a really good spot in terms of cost to performance right now
in two major price brackets
low end and mid/high end
HOWEVER. no one here can just quantify the fps increases in certain games, because the 0.1%, 1%, and avg. framerates vary across SYSTEMS, not just graphics cards
we cant say that a 1660ti will give you 40fps more, because it just doesnt work like that
we can assume
whats that supposed to mean
I have no idea why you're saying any of this
im still talking to @frozen pebble
that's such an arbitrary statement
the previous conversation
40fps more than what
@frozen pebble 1660 ti will give you 40 fps more
Can I ask about a cheap gpu that can run source games like hl2 and gmod decently? I’m tech savvy just not about older pcs and lower end
trust me
lol
No it’s not for me
It’s for my cousin
I’m not spending $200 that much
what a nice cousin you are
@lone pond the best you can do in that machine is a LP 1650
my cousin never buy me anything
I don’t want something too powerful but I’ll look for 570
@lone pond an rx 570 wont physically fit
@frozen pebble stop asking the same questions
@lone pond stop lying
how much fps doing what
99999
lol cmon guys
on what hardware
3770
we can give you estimates but we can't tell you for sure
@summer peak
@summer peak we discussing how much more FPS I will get with 1660 super overclocked compared to my current 1050Ti
okay, doing what
what games
what resolution
what setting
what are your current parts
fortnite, FHD, 144hz
fortnite varies way too much for me to give a number
the map is too variant and the amount of chaos on screen is highly variable
Gmod is pretty low end game so I would think so
you will see improvements
we cna't say for sure how much
is all that we can say
@lone pond thats not a very good gpu to begin with
oof
@summer peak current is 1050Ti, playing all low settings for view distance and shadows turned off in fortnite (them competitive settings)
@lone pond whats you budget?
Also Visi pm
worse than 730
Lol I don’t have enough money for I want
He just wants to play garrys mod and papers please and such
at least $100 pls
well, how much is he willing to spend?
also, are used parts ok? like, at this kind of budget, its the best you can do
guys, this is going into an SFF case
it has to be LP
RX 560 LP or GTX 1650 LP are the best he can do
oof
and actually the used market for those are not that great iirc
Reason: Bad word usage
x.x
Visi, pms
@frozen pebble dude, just buy a gpu
take your budget, and get a 1660 super
done
problem solved
k good
you will be able to oc pretty good with that extra wattage from your 700w psu @frozen pebble
YeH
Alright imma head off sleep
Speak soon
If you need me @ me ill wake up
Thanks alot@
All
Thanks for trying to help I figured it out imma get a r7 240
Good enough for what he needs
could you link the one you plan to buy?
Me?
no @lone pond
Oh
the only good use case is to run extra monitors
like if you need as much monitor real estate as possible on a tight budget
but they can play minecraft
at anywhere from 2-200 fps
Like I’ve said 200x it isn’t for me
It’s for my cousin and I’m cheaping our cause he just wants to play source games
o
i have a r9 380 and im looking for an upgrade into more recent cards any suggestion
i5 6400 and around 500-600 CAN
psu?
power supply
dunno
so i know your psu has 2 6 pin pcie power
because thats what the 380 requires
if you dont know the model, could you take a look inside your case and see what types of connectors are plugged into your gpu?
oof
if you have the budget for it, an 80+ gold psu is ideal
so is this i5 your current cpu?
or one you just bought
so whats wrong with your current motherboard?
i mean, if you arent planning on oc'ing pretty hard, any board will do
unless you need new features
like a board that can support more cpu's would be usefull
the i5 6500 doesnt support smp
6400
simultaneous multi processing
no i mean switch motherboard for another to one to an evantual upgrade
oh, no, if you het another 100 series chipset board for your 6400, then you can only upgrade it with 6th gen intel
i checked and i think my board supports the i7 7700
whats the chipset?
1511?
thats the socket
z390
thats 1151 for 8th and 9th gen
anyway, @neon owl your best option is to stick with the board you have until you get around to upgrading you cpu
I tried lol
does PCIe version matter, or can you put a 3.0 card in a 2.0 board?
yes you can, the 3.0 card will run at 2.0 speeds
which wont really affect performance
in most cases
Any ideas of what graphics card I should get? It’s my first build btw
what budget/use
@zinc oriole the biggest bang for your buck would probably be to find something in your local area
on like facebook marketplace and stuff ive seen 2070 supers go for around 300-350 with minimal use
brand new though probably like a 2060 ultra or super if you wanna spend the extra 100$
Hmm, I’ll look into that then
Oh and the most I’m willing to spend on a gpu is around 450
Looking into getting a used GTX 980. Thoughts?
@zinc oriole if buying new i'd go for the gigabyte 5700 xt windforce (could be gaming not windforce, the non aorus 3 fan model) for around 400
a 980ti will run you about $200
good price used for good performance
it performs similarly to the 1660ti
well, probably like a 1660 1660s
well, the 980 isnt worth it unless its alot cheaper
81 bucks
temporary until I get a job and can put more money into my build
there's a ton for that price range
ebay
actually the one I'm peeping as of now goes off sale in 14 hours and I won't have money by then
$20 shipping tho
dang, the price jump between 980 and 980ti is huge
fr
the going rate is about 140
so like 50 more for a ti
not really worth it
but 140 for a 980 isnt bad
yeah
I would love to if I had a source of income soon
the 1050ti is like a 960 power wise tho
Maybe around Holiday season if you're willing to stay in touch until Januaryish
oh frick shoot i just peaked the specs of the thing
that's 0ld
yeah it is wow i hadnt realised
yeah there's people selling em for 70, 80 and sometimes 90-110 bucks on ebay
New ones somehow still sell for 180
i wish i could sell my soul for a titan rtx
yeah, usually if its bnib, it still demands a huge premium
it wouldnt be worth it the power draw in my area is insane
heh
Is upgrading to a 1650 super from a 1050ti a good idea?
it depends how much your spending
I’m thinking on waiting for the rx 5500 xt to drop cause rumors are it’s coming on December 12
where are you at bro lol
college
bro I'm so humbgry
sassy
o that hot
;o
Do you guys know anything about the Radeon Pro 580x that comes with Macs 🤔
when you show person motherboard and then gamer card
"They're the same picture."
quad mxm pcie card
you get 4 mxm gpus
Valid
and tada
but what's the vram
the mxm gpus have vram on the card
skillshare sponsor?
ah xd
Should I sell my 1050ti so I can buy a 1660ti? Cause I’m on a really strict budget and have little to no money to upgrade
mm
what's the cpu @abstract monolith
If i sell it later I’ll have a ryzen 7 2700x
lmao im using a msi 1050ti with a intel pentium processor
Ohh then yeah a ryzen 7 2700x mixed with a 1660ti would be a good combo
R7 2700X is the chip i'm shooting for thanks to someone here persuading me
i was gonna get a 2700
and an additional HSF so i could avoid the terrible AM4 mount
but it turns out wraith prism still uses a retention clip!
is this a good graphics card? GeForce GTX 1650 Gaming X 4GB GDDR5 PCI Express 3.0 Graphics Card
If I were you I'd spend the bit extra to get a 1660 super or 1660ti
Also try looking into the radeon rx 570, I was getting around 35 fps in shadow of the tomb raider with ultra settings at 1440p.
thanks!
not if you pay monthly for it
No like full price
yeah i guess
I thought the 1660ti was a troll card
RTX470ti Super TITAN
@lone pond i would get 5700 XT
How much does the 1080 ti cost
Canada
1080ti is still pretty expensive last i recall
it's up there with the 2080 (non-super non-ti) in terms of price iirc
Don't buy a mining card, though
Those cards have probably been running nonstop at Max capacity for as long as the user has had it
if you changed out the fans, and applied new paste you'd probably be ok.
Hey there! Just got my 9900k and it's now oc to 4.9ghz.... Need a serious advice on buying either 2080 or the 2080s... Btw going to oc the gpu to the extreme..
super
I'm deciding between a few 2080S that fit in my budget, no idea which is better. The options for the same price are the MSI Gaming X Trio, The EVGA XC Gaming, the Asus Dual Evo OC/Gigabyte gaming OC (Both the cheapest), Inno3D Gaming OC x2, and various Palit ones which Ill probably avoid
evga XC
@fallen schoonerbut i heard it has less oc headroom
I dont intend to OC a GPU. If I wanted better Id just buy the TI.
I say EVGA because they have great rma support ;p
It seems okay but its only within my budget in two places that stock it, and the only place its in stock is Morecomputers
And their website seems...dodgy at best
@autumn harbor you can always ask in #overclocking , probably get a better indepth answer than mine lol ;p
yeah I've never heard of that website
have you tried evga b-stock ??
Never rely on a website that describes memory clock speed as 15.5Ghz.
if you're trying to budget, that is a great place to look.,
@fallen schoonerthnks anyways
EVGA B Stock appears to be a north america only thing
oh
Those do seem like deals Id go for if I was in NA to make use of the free shipping on them though, decent deals.
Im mainly just trying to see what other brands I can get instead of Palit or Zotac for £700 with good coolers. I'm not a GPU guy, and this is my first upgrade in years
nvidia still king
nomad what is your cpu?
3950X. And don't question it, it's a long story as for why I'm getting a CPU I know I wont make full use of for years to come.
Well, somewhat. Long story.
Im not questioning anything lol :p
more.. jealous.
😄
that is like, the top dog right now
The same way ultra budget gaming PCs these days seem to be people just sticking reasonable GPUs like 580s in old servers with Xeons in them, I expect the 3950X to be somewhat the same in 5 years time.
makes my 3700x look like an FX chip..
Kind of predicting intel vs AMD might actually accelerate progress rather than the past two years of 25% price hikes for 5-10% performance improvements.
at that this point might as well go for a 2080ti
then not upgrade for a long while
The thing is I dont need more than something that can run 1080p 144hz
I tried a 1440p monitor larger than my own, 27", and I literally couldn't see things well enough for normal use. I don't intend to go above 1080.
So it was either 3900X 2080TI, or 3950X 2080S
And honestly Id just prefer the better CPU. I don't game often, just when I do, I expect it to look good.
The EVGA XC is actually not too bad of a price on CCLonline.
3950X is still out of stock everywhere, but there are rumours itll be back in stock by the 31st in some places, although some others say 31st of Jan instead. Just depends.
EVGA is one of the bestfor oc'ing a 2080 ti $11-300 if you don't intend to flash the bios or shunt imo.
In either of those cases, I think the OC strix adv , or even the matrix are preferred due to better XOC bios compatibility.
Why do I keep getting more greedy I wanted a 2060 originally now I'm considering 2080 ti 
4K gaming?
Honestly, I have a 2060. Wish I would have gone 2070 but didn't want to spend that much. 2060 to actually use for Ray Tracing is disappointing.
your not missing much in the RTX department
My wife likes her 2080 does vr and everything no issues
Which one would be worth the money? RTX2070 or 5700XT?
Performance is virtually identical
I'd go 5700XT, i think they're cheaper?
If you're talking 2070 Super or an overclocked version, the 2070 is slightly faster
I see. I was considering a graphic card since my gpu is already 5 years old and most likely will fail anytime.
If budget is an issue, get a 5700XT. Honestly Ray Tracing is still a bit gimmicky and needs time to mature
Yeah, raytracing isn't something I am very interested in.
5700XT then. Save some money too
2070 and 5700XT should be same price, 2070S is just overpriced
The 2070;'s I saw were $450, 5700XT for less than $400
2070 should be $400 now
Thanks for the info. I supposed 5700XT is my choice then, although I heard people saying AMD cards are not optimized for some game. Probably not 100% true..
but if that's the case of them being $450, then def the 5700XT
Nah, not really true
AMD does lag a bit with driver support but it's not worth worrying about
Some games perform better on AMD, and some others on Nvidia
@hushed stirrup AMD is a little slower to update drivers for new games but they always do
Will it be compatible with an older version motherboard? I think mine is Asrock B85M-HDS.
yes
What GPU do you have now?
The reason I ask is that you may be better off to upgrade the motherboard, CPU and RAM first.
That's still a DDR3 ram motherboard
Yeah, was considering that too. But I was planning in case my gpu go down before I managed to collect enough cash for some upgrade
anyone know a good pc for under 600 for my cousin
want maxed out specs
UK Shipping
Well, if you are SURE your gpu is crapping out, then yeah, get the 5700XT
Just be mindful your CPU might bottleneck it a bit
@hushed stirrup is it an i7 in there?
@hard wren Ah... no... It was a Xeon processor. At that time, I was quite tight in budget and had to make do with one of the best price/ performance processor.
Which Xeon? I'm using W3680 with 1660TI
nothing wrong with xeon lol
hahaha... It was a Intel Xeon E3 1231V3.
It is still running well for a 5 years old processor, but it isn't doing too good with some games now.
Is a intel i3 good or bad
Can't you get a 6 core to fit your socket?
for 1080p the 970 isn't terrible. If it can wait a bit longer I'd invest in new mobo/ram/processor
Yeah... I am planning an upgrade next year, just afraid my gpu go down before then...
I just checked, no 6 cores for your socket
If oyu can afford both, the GPU now and upgrade later, you can do it
Probably going to upgrade at the end of the year unless something pop up
Just be mindful you probably won't see an FPS improvement until you upgrade the CPU
no integrated graphics in that xeon to fall back on so if the gpu did die...
Long live my x58 😄
hahaha.,.. indeed. I encountered it once in the first year I bought my new pc XD
Is there something making you think the GPU won't make it? Getting hot? Artifacting?
Or just age?
10 years and still going strong
Just age and sometimes, it is making some cranky noise...
Ah, bad fan maybe
@lone pond
yo
you know the gpu im getting
its called
MSI GeForce GTX 1660 SUPER VENTUS XS 6GB OC Graphics Card
But theres one called
MSI GeForce GTX 1660 SUPER VENTUS XS 6GB OC Gaming Graphics Card
which one do i get for higher fps?
I say take it out and clean it
I did clean it from time to time. Every 3 months once but when overload, it start cranking... fans might be failing soon, I supposed
EVGA has pretty good sales on Wednesdays
I mean.. Newegg has pretty good sales every day 😄
What’s a new egg
remember when Newegg sold those eggs?
used 1080ti vs used 2070 vs new 1660ti
only issue is finding a good price for used ones
Use for GPU? VR? Resolution?
gonna be for gaming, no vr, and right now 1080p but hoping to upgrade to 1440p 144hz in the future
Budget?
~500 canadian
inbetween 2070 and 2070S
wow, i had heard people saying how good it is, but figured it would be like 800
definitely my front runner rn
is the xt worth the extra $70?
$70 is an extra 10% performance
so yes
Depends on the value to you, not us. 😉
at 100 FPS, that's 110 FPS
cost you $70
But i say if you can afford it, then do it
Also, try to get one that doesn't have a blower fan. Those are terrible
that was the only thing i was questioning
well i think im gonna hold off until boxing day to order the parts, hopefully i can find another one for a good price then
Hopefully a better price!
thanks for the help, appreciate it
You're welcome!
@lone pond don't get the evoke oc
it has issues -- the thermal pads are too small for one thing
If you want close to msrp look at the Sapphire Pulse or the Powercolor Red Dragon
I thought they revised that though?
if you want a really good cooler, go for the powercolor red devil
There's still a lot of the older model being sold and even without that it's not a particularly good cooler
the XT runs pretty hot, so having a good cooler is pretty important
alright, i’ll keep my eyes out for those, but depending on sales i’ll consider a higher quality one
It's a shame, too. MSI usually makes great products, so it's sad to see that big oversight.
Aorus 2070 super good?
It's mediocre for the price.
It's fine, it won't fry or anything, but it's not going to net you the same cooling performance as other cards.
If you get a good deal on it, it's worth getting.
You're paying for aesthetics with Aorus, more than cooling, tbh
The rest of the story is that they're looking at a 3700X and $100 B450 motherboard.......
oof
I told them go 5700XT and get a better motherboard
X570 for $150
yeah
Asus TUF Gaming
yep
for sure
I'd much rather spend the 50 extra bucks and have more peace of mind with the vrms etc
Well, I got the WiFI version, which actually works really well.
I sit at 520 mbps or better
I'm using a cheap b450 board but I'm upgrading when I upgrade (downsize) my case to the node 202
I've thought about building an ITX media PC
But can't justify the spending right now
Not unless my nVidia Shield dies and gives me a reason to
I've never seen a Nvidia shield out in the wild
I just recently got a gtx 1050ti
same model as my friend
his seems to perform better though
i have better ram than him
but he has a better cpu
Same CPU/RAM/Motherboard?

