I’ve seen a lot of youtubers sponsored by/ reccomend the red devil but i’ve never heard of powercolor before
#graphics-cards
rose fox
pseudo spruce
I've heard of them but don't know their reputation
lone pond
Power color is a long time amd partner, solid
pseudo spruce
Cool, I'll keep that in mind when I upgrade
cold stream
Why doesn't afterburner do the "keep these changes" thing with overclocks 
cold stream
I think I'm dumb and I just accidentally made my gpu go like 2200mhz for a second
pseudo spruce
Just don't set it to boot with the changes until you find a stable OC
lone pond
You'll trust me but not youtubers with actual credibility? 
AMD's naming of the clock speeds is confusing
cold stream
I didn't click the save button so should be good.... In theory
pseudo spruce
Lol
lone pond
"Game clock" is the speed the GPU will boost to under gaming loads, depending on thermals
cold stream
I still really gotta OC my cpu
cedar creek
I want to learn overclocking but I don't want to break anything either lol
pseudo spruce
I'm still learning when i comes to cpu overclocking
rose fox
do u have to buy the extension cables to vertical mount a gpu or do they come with gpu
lone pond
There are so many failsafes it's hard to damage your stuff anymore
cold stream
Buy
rose fox
oof
cold stream
But also don't vertical mount
rose fox
Tis bad?
cold stream
It's wonky
pseudo spruce
Just remember to always change settings in small increments
cedar creek
Yeah I know that @pseudo spruce
pseudo spruce
And only change one setting at a time
cold stream
Theres no real reason to unless you absolutely have to for case constructions or something
cedar creek
I have msi afterburner for the gpu but don't know what to set it to lol
cedar creek
How do I know if I go to far? Will it shut off or something
rose fox
wait what’s the difference between gddr and ddr
cedar creek
I literally know nothing about OCing
pseudo spruce
First you want to max power setting, then slowly increase memory clock speed and core clock. See how far you can get without changing voltage first
cold stream
For CPU is different and more difficult
pseudo spruce
Yeah thats q different story
cedar creek
I got off for the night I'll try that tomorrow though.
Literally just turn power max?
Lol
Turn power up to Max
rose fox
ight the first 5700 xt when i search is gigabyte gaming oc. boost clock is 1905 mhz, $400. Good or nah?
pseudo spruce
But increase clock speeds without changing voltage is quite safe. Bsod's are normal. Just dial it back after the pc reboots until you find the sweet spot
pseudo spruce
Yes as long as you don't set afterburner to boot with the changes you just made as I said before
cedar creek
Ah ok
pseudo spruce
Don't save the changes until you find a stable oc
pseudo spruce
Yes it can
cedar creek
I'm guessing fps?
pseudo spruce
Can improve everything
pseudo spruce
No worries. Have to learn at some point
pseudo spruce
Increase by like 15 to 20 increments at a time and then test with komobuster before changing again
cedar creek
Ok
pseudo spruce
Well, it's been really fun chatting with you @cedar creek and the rest of you all. I have to call it a day and get some sleep. See you later.
cedar creek
You to. Thanks for the tips on overclocking and chatting
pseudo spruce
Np, goodnight.
cedar creek
Gn
cold stream
Voltage on afterburner is locked by default ...
With my cpu... Probably isn't worth messing with that...
lone pond
you can unlock the voltage in afterburner by changing a setting in the, uh, settings
cedar creek
So where do I go to not keep the changes on afterburner?
cold stream
Well thanks
dreamy dragonBOT
(っ◔◡◔)っ ♥ Vapelord ツ ♥#9710 has been warned
cold stream
But I think I'll not mess too much with gpu until I get a better cpu
cedar creek
Yeah I just don't know how to not save the settings on afterburner lol
So far 126mhz core clock is what I got up to before kombustor crashed
surreal smelt
is the AMD Ryzen 3 3200G good??
cedar creek
I've never heard of the 3200g tbh
surreal smelt
well do you think AMD Ryzen or whatever is a good brand?
cedar creek
So can someone tell me why my screen goes black while overclocking
cedar creek
Ok
cedar creek
Thanks
dense flicker
might have to turn up the power or something idk lol
but if youre too scared putting the clocks at normal speed should fix it
also make sure you have good temps, dont wanna get too hot
cedar creek
Yeah for sure
I think I'm just going to stay away from overclocking
It's still going black even after I reset the clock speeds 🙃
dense flicker
oh, then its probably something else
surreal smelt
is the NVIDIA GeForce GT 710 better than the GeForce GTX 1650 cause i was told to stick with NVIDIA
but i just want to ask
dense flicker
sighhhhh
AMD is fine too depending on the card
every brand has their bad products
whats your budget, and what do you use your pc for
lone pond
AMD is really good but if you want the best 1440p experience go for NVIDIA
surreal smelt
ok thank you
lone pond
So what is ur budget
surreal smelt
600 max
cold stream
2070(S)
lone pond
How much is 5700 XT in USD
surreal smelt
359
lone pond
Wow ok how much is 2080 super
cold stream
I wish I had more money
lone pond
Try and get a cheap 2080 or a 2070 super
surreal smelt
I mean I’ll try
dense flicker
i think thats his budget for his whole pc...
$600 is not getting you a 2070 super or 2080
lone pond
Then what will it?
dense flicker
rx570
lone pond
lol true
glass dove
600
U can’t get a 2060 super or to prolly
Can
When I start working I’ma have a goated PC
Atleast 2k
warped sable
For $600 pc maybe you can probably fit a 1660 super but that’s a big maybe
granite juniper
like this https://pcpartpicker.com/list/JQKbhg 🤔
gray vapor
No SSD and why a micro ATX case with all those parts?
should be at least mid tower
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/v3sBcq This would actually be better and he would have the choice of 2 games to pick from as well
granite juniper
yeah but mine has a 1660 super
it took too much of the budget to put an ssd in and matx is perfectly fine
gray vapor
Well 600$ to get the best of both worlds my build would actually be better and besides that if he waits for the RX 5500 XT to come out it would be like having a GTX 1660/Super
granite juniper
yeah but we don't know the exact performance and price so :/
gray vapor
Well as AMD was saying the 5500 non XT model is about 35% better then the 1650 so the XT model has got to be about 60% to 70% better than the 1650 which would put it at around the 1660 and come on if they are competing against the 1650 with that GPU then it would have to be less than 150$.
granite juniper
doesnt like polaris already compete with the 1650? it was pretty trash, im excited for the smaller navi cards to see how well they perform
gray vapor
5300 is mainly the successor or the 550
granite juniper
yeah
gray vapor
and i think they are going by odds cause 5300, 5500, 5700
granite juniper
but even the 570 beats the 1650 for less, i think it should be better suited for 1650S/1660/1660S
yeah people thought they would go with the 3/5/7/9 from ryzen on naming
gray vapor
Well 570 is about 10 to 15% better than the 1650
But i think AMD's main focus is going to be on the low to mid range of GPU's
cedar creek
someone said in another server that the 2080s is better than the 5700xt
probably true
cold stream
well considering the 5700xt is just a smidge worse than a 1080 ti... and the 2080 is it's direct successor...
long phoenix
RX 5700 XT is a smidge worse than 2070 Super
and 1080 Ti too
their performances are about the same at 1080p and 1440p but the nvidia cards get higher FPS at 4K
echo kraken
I dont see many people buying a 5700xt and at the same time having the budget for a high refresh rate 4k monitor...if so they have priorities outa wack
long phoenix
lol high refresh rate 4K is a sham
you aren't gonna get very far over 60FPS at 4K even with a 2080Ti
maybe 70-80
lone pond
Depends a lot on the game
4k >60hz used to be near $2k for a decent monitor, I think new stuff is <$1k
oblique cypress
lmao
cedar creek
8k at 360hz
.01ms response time
😂
@lone pond your little profile pic scared me lmao. i thought i had a bad pixel
lone pond
Glad my hard work paid off
cedar creek
lol
worldly crow
i was getting 50 frames at 4k high settings on battlefield 5
on just a ryzen 7 and a gtx 1070
you can still benefit from a high refresh rate at 4k. you dont have to max the frames to 144 to take advantage of a 144hz monitor , theres a difference between refresh rate and frames per second
lone pond
a lot of my games are regularly 100+ fps
in 4k
buuuuuuut some stuff i play is definitely not, i was looking towards the future as monitors are one of the things you upgrade so rarely
hoping to get 6-8 years
worldly crow
just get a 4k 144hz gsync
lone pond
that's literally what i already have
long phoenix
If you can't get significantly over 60FPS the refresh rate won't mean much
I've explained the relationship between FPS and refresh rate to you before @worldly crow
You aren't gonna get 100FPS in AAA games 4K, but a lot of indie games that aren't very intensive probably will
But really considering the price of 4K144, it's not worth it. You're getting it for things to look nice, right? Might as well get a high quality 1440p monitor for half the price and have way better performance. That's my hot take.
Ultimately it's what you think is nicest though. If you're okay with 4K60, good for you. Have fun with that. If you have the money for 4K144, good for you. If it lasts for a while until your next GPU upgrade that might get ~100FPS at 4K, awesome.
lone pond
they need to take all the features of this panel and put it in a 1440 panel
10 bit color, locally dimmed backlighting
long phoenix
@lone pond what's the monitor?
lone pond
acer x27
long phoenix
My AD27QD is 1440p, 144Hz 8bit (120Hz 10 bit) and HDR
But ofc it's like $600
It's really nice
Maybe #old-monitors-and-tv is more appropriate
worldly crow
i have a 1440p was getting 80-100 frames in ultra settings no hdr monitor does have it
used to get 50-70 on my 4k tv
as long as my frames are higher than 50 im good
dont play on my tv cause it doesnt have freesync or gsync compatable
i get screen tearing on it
long phoenix
No HDR monitor has what?
worldly crow
its a 1440p 27'' 1ms
144
cant afford a 1000 dollar monitor otherwise id get a 4k 144
anyone know when the 30 series nvidia cards should be launching?
worldly crow
thinking of saving up for a new card but why get a 2070 super if there releasing new cards within the next 6 months
cold stream
Save up all the way until then and get 3080 ti 
deft grove
Question, what’s the best suggestion for taking the weight of the graphics card off of the mobo plug? My 2080ti is big and I’m worried over time it will start to pull on the card slot
lone pond
Vertical mount or more firmly affix it to the case.
deft grove
This is how it’s mounted right now
lone pond
I've had similar issues in cases with more flimsy mounting hardware - should try an OpenBenchtable BC-1 (only half serious haha )
deft grove
Well the pc is literally only 7 days old. Lol so I’m looking for some kind of reinforcement solve instead of new case.
lone pond
Ya, trying to reinforce the card with a right angle bracket or a right angle vertical mount using a riser cable like @ zack does would be my more serious sugesstion
I bought one of those brackets, but never used it
lone pond
from: zacheri#8179 has: image in search
Oh, there's a lot, but definitely a few gpu pics in there
cold stream
My case had a little bracket with a screw that lined up with the things on the gpu
and that prevented all gpu drag
lone pond
Nice PC zack
lone pond
What are specs?
dense flicker
but it shows the gpu better
i7 8700, gtx 1070, 32gb 3200mhz ram, 2tb intel 660p, 2tb seagate barracuda 7200rpm
lone pond
I don't usually ping if someone's offline haha, also school
deft grove
Oh nice. Where can I find the bracket for that?
lone pond
That’s a nice PC is it Z370?
deft grove
Ok
lone pond
Is that a g1 1070 or windforce , also lol stock cooler
dense flicker
z390
worldly crow
well if itll be that long i could possibly save up for 3080 for about 750-800
worldly crow
they not that cheap lol
lone pond
Cause it’s better or he could get a 2070 Super or something
dense flicker
i couldnt find it on newegg 😤
Phanteks PH-VGPUKT_02 - Universal Vertical GPU Bracket with 220mm Flat Line Pci-E X16 Riser Cable Kit https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07MW73HTJ/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_i_EhV1DbMASTR1A
lone pond
I mean, he's right, zack should get a 9900k for cheap - but that's very difficult todo 🙂
dense flicker
smh my dad has a 2070... he doesnt use it
worldly crow
8700k is 6 core 12 thread its a very good cpu and woiuld most likely keep vrms cooler
but 9700k is faster
worldly crow
but if ur happy that kool
lone pond
lol vrm
dense flicker
and yeah its fine
lone pond
9700K is good but 9900K is better
worldly crow
well if u dont OC then k or non k doesnt matter
lone pond
I don’t overclock my 3900X
worldly crow
ima wait for intel 10
lone pond
I am a stocker lol
worldly crow
shouldnt need to lol
lone pond
Bad joke
worldly crow
its a 12 core
lone pond
Ik
worldly crow
if u have to overclock it then u probably should check thermal paste lol
lone pond
He shouldn't need to no - but that has little to do with it being a 12 core hha
Zack can still make significant gains by picking up a $100 2x8 b-die kit rn
I could have gotten a 3700X but I am thinking of getting into streaming and 12 cores will help for streaming
worldly crow
s8 cores is fine
lone pond
Better yet- sell the ram, sell aio, grab that $320 z390 dark amazon warehouse and wreck any fps for the time being
worldly crow
i can stream on my ryzen 7 1700x and gtx 1070 sc
lone pond
Yes prolly but I am dumb with my money 🤪
worldly crow
i play games at 1440 and stream 1080
lone pond
@lone pond I know the feeling well haha
worldly crow
and still have atleast 30-40% cpu room
lone pond
I game at 1440, 4K sometimes or 1080p
Sorry if I missed your response, Otroud, but did you end up responding at some point what your stream config is?
Theo seems like a big intel NVIDIA guy
I know another 🙂
worldly crow
i just use stream obs not installed atm
lone pond
I use stream-labs
worldly crow
why is that?
lone pond
It's the for-profit fork of OBS studio, which is open source
Oh my friend said to get it because he gets 1 dollar so I said ok
worldly crow
i use it cause its the easiest to use
and has templates
im not a pro streamer so i cant just create everything
lone pond
So the SLOBS project is run by a separate team of devs, it's notorious for a blackhole of bugs due to a spaghetti code , modern art masterpiece of surprising cohesion
I mean- again, (kidding)
I like it but it would suck to have it as a job
worldly crow
i used to use regular obs
i can use photoshop to make my frame and such but stream labs just makes it easy
its hard as hell to get a pro streaming look
lone pond
completely ignore the top the %'s at the top
That's the useless part of uerbench, just look at how each of your parts stacks in percentile wise
As long as it's represented accurately
worldly crow
dont know why it says high cpu usage must have been the program cause my cpu usage was 3% idle
its very good for a old ryzen
when i play games my cpu maxes at 40% usage
lone pond
It says it's not - but I bet if you just closed some programs or something idk then the issue could resolve itself
worldly crow
streaming 60%
lone pond
Wanna know something sad
worldly crow
i plan on getting intel i7 10 gen with 4000 mhz memory and then later a rtx 3080
also plan on going from evga 280 clc to a aorus 360 clc
worldly crow
gonna save 150 a month in januaray till june/july
lone pond
haha tbh- who knows, maybe the aorus AIO's won't be too bad
worldly crow
then see what kinda gpu i can buy
lone pond
The ROG aio was bad
I want to live to 100 before touching an AIO
What do you have custom cooled?
Everything posted so far in air, working on various custom loop/chiller/cascade/TEC testingnow
I have a custom cooled PC so I am thinking of getting a second 2080 super
Because if it were not then it would get all the warm air from the other 2080 super
Should pick up those on sale evga waterblocks hydrocopper
I have one, never installed
worldly crow
just watercool it titan
lone pond
Why haha
worldly crow
the cooler u keep it the more it boosts i heard
lone pond
Kinda - but the titan is kinda a niche ML / Compute use case.
worldly crow
pretty sure i saw a jayz 2 cents video about it somewheres
i was talking about the 2080 super
i lways buy evga cards
paid 500 for a gtx 780 then 3 years later it goes out so i rma it and they send me gtx 970 for free out of warranty
best support ever
lone pond
I do have a custom loop @worldly crow
lone pond
Do you think I could make a heart out of tubing in a custom loop
worldly crow
i had a custom loop but cheap pumps go out so i gotta save up
maybe
could use the y splitter for bottom of heart
lone pond
Ya cause I got an idea for a birthday present
worldly crow
and ue hardline so u can bend a HEART
lone pond
I don’t get it
worldly crow
a Y splitter at bottom the take hardline and go from bottom to bottom in a heart shaped and put a loop in middle section
worldly crow
for uv u need uv lights also
u can buy uv / rgb leds or just uv leds and use uv red liquid
liquid and lights must be uv to get the glow
@lone pond based on my specs how much would u say my pc is worth ?
i mean it stays in great condition has filters all over and never gets dusty inside never over 30c internally
lone pond
eh, $200 1070, $100 or less 1700, $50 mobo, $30-60 psu idk what it is, $30-60 case, $40 ddr4
Depends how you sell it
worldly crow
mobo definately not 50 dude
worldly crow
the mobo was 159 new man
lone pond
Demonmit is far, far more up to date on current used parts than I
worldly crow
definately not 50 lol
lone pond
an asrock x370 gaming x?
worldly crow
yea
lone pond
hmm, ok, about 75
worldly crow
lowest i just saw on ebay was 120
lone pond
Are we looking at the same ebay
worldly crow
usa?
lone pond
TBF - most of those are invalid data due to packaged deals or "for parts"
But I can still get a rough idea, my guess of 50 was low - but hey, if you get lucky, maybe $100 on ebay - but have to factor in the shipping, taxes, ebay and paypal's cut
lone pond
Less so on local deals/ hws, but just a bit more work
worldly crow
thats the only gaming x i se
granite juniper
you can delete everything after the ? btw
worldly crow
i just quick copy paste lol
granite juniper
lone pond
Well, yes, one person did in fact buy that (new) - do you see ne? on october 2nd lol
worldly crow
doesnt matter my board isnt a 75 dollar board
its a pretty nice board actuyally
has a higher phase than rog
lone pond
I have no idea what case you have, I just saw the userbenchmark
worldly crow
psu still sells for 139 not 60 bucks man
lone pond
ok, what psu model
granite juniper
check hws you could easily get a decent psu for 60
worldly crow
u cant use hardware swap as a reference when selling a pc dude thats messed up
those are super low used parts for cheap
granite juniper
who said you had to buy new
lone pond
I mean, just look at the hard facts on ebay - I'm not even saying I was 100% right - I guessed on the parts that you stated you had reasonably close, and guessed ont he rest based on parts comparable to what you had picked originally https://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_from=R40&_nkw=ASRock+X370+GAMING+X&_sacat=0&LH_Sold=1&LH_Complete=1&rt=nc&LH_ItemCondition=4
worldly crow
I ASKED WHAT MY PC WAS WORTH
granite juniper
oh
lone pond
ok, so a used 750 g3
granite juniper
but still not as much as new
lone pond
I actually bought a used 850 g3 for 45 on ebay this year
worldly crow
so what
lone pond
I have 0 interest in buying any of this
lone pond
I'm sorry that my opinion is so upsetting
I think I should leave your current valuations intact.
Best wishes
worldly crow
thats messed up dude . no way is my whoile rig worth 600 bucks
the case is worth half that
dense flicker
whats goin on here
polar warren
May I butt in? I actually have a vid card question.
worldly crow
check this out mr lowballer https://www.evga.com/products/product.aspx?pn=100-E1-1014-K0
dense flicker
lets not name call please
lone pond
Hey zack, wanna buy a x370 rig
granite juniper
$300 is still way too much for a case
name 1 person that would spend that much on a atx case
worldly crow
ive seen ppl spend 700 on a stupid case
lone pond
That is a very nice case. I would estimate it's worth 100-150 - maybe 200 to the rare buyer - but much of this value is contingent on how you present each of these
If you assemble it all into an attractive, well marketed package, you can demmand a premium
worldly crow
just wait till u see the watercooled ekwb case for like 800+
yea well u told me 60 bucks dude
lone pond
Selling parts a-la carte, less so
granite juniper
like why would somebody buy this case over $60-120 cases? That’s what you need to look at
worldly crow
its super large and has the best airflow ive seen in a case in a lonmg time
gaqming my internal temp is 30c
lone pond
As stated previously, I had no idea what case you/had/have, no idea why you'd take offense. It'd take about 10 seconds of both of our time to instead communicate to me "oh, actually my case is a really high end EVGA, 270 MSRP, I really splurged there"
worldly crow
i told u it was worth 300 lol
lone pond
I'm not used to people taking parts appraisal opinions so seriously.
daring minnow
whats the question?
lone pond
Haha - well, that was also after you told me some other things were worth$$
ah, here, pitch your build to demonmit
Let's play the price is right
lone pond
ya, don't read
granite juniper
like what does it have that makes it $200 more than the meshify c
lone pond
This is a fun game show
granite juniper
not everybody cares about how much a case cost, they just want something that looks nice
yeah
daring minnow
you have a PCPP list of what the parts are? @worldly crow
or, just a list of them or something?
lone pond
TL;dr how much is a
https://www.evga.com/products/product.aspx?pn=100-E1-1014-K0
worldly crow
how much would u price this CASE: EVGA DG-87 Supersized Case
MOBO: ASRock X370 Gaming X
CPU: Ryzen 7 1700
GPU: EVGA GTX 1070 SC
RAM: G.SKILL TRIDENT Z DDR4 3200Mhz 16GB
CPU Cooler: XSPC CUSTOM LOOP
SSD: Intel 530 Series SSD 128GB
SSD Intel 760p 512GB M.2 2280
HDD: 1x Seagate Barracuda 1TB 7200 RPM 64MB
POWER: EVGA SUPERNOVA 750 WATT G3
MONITOR: Vizio 4k HDR Dolby Vision 50''
KEYBOARD: CoolerMaster Devastator II
MOUSE: CoolerMaster Devastator II
CAMERA: (coming soon)
from my streaming page
just pc tho
lone pond
ok, that custom loop adds value, monitor can't be too bad either
granite juniper
I’d say 625-675
daring minnow
CPU - $100
GPU $175-$200
ram - $60
SSD - $10
SSD NVMe - $35-$40
HDD - $15
PSU - $50
case - $100
dense flicker
jesus demonmit
lone pond
I agree
dense flicker
you got that down lol
daring minnow
so give or take $600 for the system, you can probably get $750 for it
worldly crow
no way
lone pond
Oh I check newegg's site often
dense flicker
all of my parts new are worth $1800 
worldly crow
760p is over 60 bucks
daring minnow
yeah but its used
lone pond
But I guarantee you they don't ship from mr Otroud's vendor page
granite juniper
and also you can get a sabrent rocket 512gb for 60
lone pond
what name
worldly crow
i never said i have a vendor page
granite juniper
:l
lone pond
whoosh
dense flicker
wasnt really a name, but 'mr otroud's vendor page' kinda sounded a bit mean
i just dont know what to call it
granite juniper
like whoever makes it
daring minnow
i mean, my man, i build a gaming PC just about every week. what i gave you is fair market value based on a very significant amount of experience with the used PC hardware market. take that however you like, but yeah, just the PC is worth $600 in parts, and you should be able to get $750 or so for it @worldly crow
worldly crow
m y case isnt worth 100
worldly crow
its still pretty new
lone pond
regardless, I 100% acknowlege Demonmit has a far more extensive, and current knowledge and feel of the current new and used pc hardware market in the US.
But he doesn't need my endorsement - his builds speak for themselves
Dude works magic
daring minnow
$100 for a really niche used case is very fair asking price
worldly crow
all the ryzen 7 gtx 1070 or better pcs i see on my craigslist or on facebook marketplace are over 1200
lone pond
I had said 100-150 , maybe near 200 if you search far and wide for that buyer who really wants one.
Before knowing what case - I guessed 30-60
worldly crow
my case is better than most cases out there it keeps everything very kool and is alot bigger than a regular atx case
daring minnow
yeah, you see them, for months and months, because they dont sell, lol. you're more than welcome to ask $1200 for a used gaming PC worth half of that, but you'll never get it sold. you can build a faster gaming PC than that brand new
worldly crow
its 25% bigger than a full atx
daring minnow
@worldly crow i just picked up a near brand new Dark rock pro 900 rev 2 for $20
im being VERY fair saying that EVGA case is worth $100
lone pond
Since that was my guess for a (what I would assume to have been $100 ish case at time of purchase) given the low tier mobo, good cpu, cpu, already forgot the memory and ssds etc. Pretty good ssd pick though
granite juniper
but 99% of people really care about how big it is
worldly crow
and u buy ur stuff from where @daring minnow
daring minnow
reddit, ebay, craigslist, offerup, letgo
lone pond
See - I just search ebay and filter to used + sold listings, sort by recent
worldly crow
yea well my mobo on ebay is 150
lone pond
The link I posted 2 times lol
daring minnow
your motherboard is worth $75*
lone pond
Yes....
worldly crow
i dont go by auction either i use buy it now
lone pond
So.... are we arguing about how much you value someting?
daring minnow
good B450/X370 boards are $75 all day, every day
worldly crow
i never go on a chance that i MIGHT WIN IT
lone pond
Or how much something you posess is valued by literally everyone else
granite juniper
somebody sold a x370 tiachi for $100. $150 is too much
daring minnow
unless you have a maximus board, your board isnt worth anything more special than every other board
lone pond
this guy knows his stuff, gives you honest and fair input and you doubt it?
worldly crow
show me a link other than reddit for my mobo at 75?
dense flicker
lets calm down please, can we talk about something else?
granite juniper
n o
lone pond
I would, but can't wear out that ctrl v
daring minnow
its not because its that specific board, its a generic ass X370. generic ass X370 boards are worth $75.
lone pond
Haha ya, I'm gonna go work on that build
dense flicker
nobody is gonna benefit from this really, nobody is gonna change their minds, its just useless
i just think talking about something else might be a bit more fun 🙂
daring minnow
there are very few boards from X370 that are actually worth more than $75
worldly crow
u can crap on my gear all u want but i picked good stuff for the price i paid
daring minnow
Fatal1ty X370 Professional Gaming
X370 Taichi
ROG Crosshair VI Extreme
ROG Crosshair VI Hero [Wi-Fi AC]
are the 4 boards from X370 that are worth more than $75
lone pond
I have never said you picked poor stuff
no one is crapping on your gear
just saying you think it's worth more than it is
You're taking this personally
worldly crow
yea well yall saying my board is trash worth 60 bucks
livid girder
nobody called it trash
daring minnow
im not saying its trash, im saying that its worth $75. thats the average going rate for the average X370 motherboard
lol
worldly crow
never said it was id sell it for 100 it was 160 originally but saying its worth 60 bucks is just mean
lone pond
it's not mean it's the reality of the market value of it
livid girder
it's not mean
daring minnow
which any of the Gaming K4 or X series is, its an average board
and you say its 12 phase, when its a 4 phase board
lone pond
this guy literally spends his days buying and selling these parts
daring minnow
lol
lone pond
he has a very good idea of the real world value of the stuff
livid girder
demonmit is probably the most knowledgeable person about used parts in the server
by far
lone pond
he's not criticizing you, just giving you info
would you go to a mechanic, ask him what's wrong with your car, and then argue with him about what you think is wrong with it?
Definitely not 12 phase
I mean - there's a bit of semantics there
ok, fair enough
outdated version 1 sec
my point is though it doesn't make a lot of sense to ask an expert's opinion and then argue with them on it
granite juniper
oh hecc
dense flicker
please
granite juniper
giB new one
dense flicker
can we just calm down
granite juniper
but yeah it’s 4 phase
dense flicker
livid girder
ok zack
granite juniper
@lone pond can u sent the new one pl0x
dense flicker
still a bit off the rails
lone pond
yaya, gotta find it
granite juniper
thanks
lone pond
4 days old https://i.redd.it/2iwdy5wrrly31.png
fallen schooner
what does any of this have to do with graphics cards.
granite juniper
the motherboard has a gpu :v
lone pond
aight, #pc gaming?
daring minnow
@worldly crow im sorry that you feel like your hardware is worth more than it actually is, but my man, market change... sure ebay prices are a good starting point, but they have a lot of flaws when it comes to VERY specific stuff, like exact models for little things. you have a 2 generation old system, thats still very impressive for gaming and workstation use, but by todays standards, you can build a system as fast for $800-$1000. there is no way that your computer is anywhere close to being worth $1200 used. im sorry. but thats how PC parts work after a few years of being out.
lone pond
Haha who was that delete
granite juniper
idk
daring minnow
just because this idiot is trying to sell his computer for $1000 with the old parts in it, doesnt automatically mean thats what the fair asking price of the parts are. saying that, "OH well, people have listings of a system like mine for this much" doesnt mean anything. they are over valuing the hardware, just like you're trying to do, and it will never sell. @worldly crow
lone pond
Hey we're in #cpus now
granite juniper
we've kind of finished this argument :v
lone pond
Ya, chipotle is sounding good rn
granite juniper
o
lone pond
nothing good will come of this. The VRM quiz time with 
was more fun, almost miss it
granite juniper
ps4 is a pretty cool pc
granite juniper
thats not really important...
dense flicker
it is to some people
daring minnow
no worries, doesnt bother me.
dense flicker
so in case it is, i deleted it
but you can send it again if youre okay with it i guess
its not a specific address
so go ahead
daring minnow
lol, ive had people show up to my house just out of the blue to buy a PC
dense flicker
haha
worldly crow
the dudes got a gtx 770 and a 4th gen wtf i have a ryzen 7 16gb ddr4 and also a gtx 1070 which will make that card look like crap
daring minnow
lol yeah, see? the thought that you've got right now, on how ridiculous his listing is, is how everyone is trying to explain why your value of your system being $1200 is as insane
worldly crow
i usually sell my stuff facebook marketplace so i can get local sales
theres a huge diference between the 2 systems
770 vs 1070 like really
daring minnow
yep, and there is a huge difference between that 1070 PC listed there, at that price, compared to the price you expect to get for your PC
worldly crow
4th gen i7 vs 1st gen ryzen 7
dense flicker
i think demonmit was just bringing up an example of an overpriced pc, not comparing it to yours
daring minnow
oh now im comparing this one to his
daring minnow
yep, and you have a 1700 8 core, and a 512 NVMe drive
worldly crow
theres a big difference between a ryzen 7 and 5
daring minnow
thats why i said yours should go for about $750
because it has bit higher end parts
slightly bigger CPU
and a better SSD
worldly crow
A 35 DOLLAR CASE NO WONDER ITS 650 LOL
daring minnow
zalman S3 is $50 on amazon new, + the fans are $13 per 3 pack
granite juniper
yeah but like $200 case difference makes little to no performance different compared to other components
daring minnow
so there is about $70 into that case
lone pond
That's how you make money on budget builds - $35-50-60 cases
worldly crow
new
granite juniper
not saying ur case is bad, but not everybody wants to buy a $300 case
worldly crow
daring minnow
oh no, the EVGA cases are hot garbage, but, besides that, lol
worldly crow
that looks like 35 to me dude
lone pond
Honeslty can't tell if troll at this opint
worldly crow
still 35 bucks
daring minnow
for me its only $30 shipping
lone pond
We've had this problem before
daring minnow
$35 + $70 = $35? @worldly crow
granite juniper
worldly crow
then go pick it up lol
granite juniper
there look thats half of your case price
worldly crow
i like lots room in my case for better airflow
granite juniper
but even with that shipping thats half of what you said new and $50 cheaper than ur price
granite juniper
and lots of room doesn't always mean better airflow :l
granite juniper
🤔 shows $100 for shipping for me huh
worldly crow
yea where sjhow me link?>
daring minnow
granite juniper
worldly crow
its sold
granite juniper
daring minnow
yep, it was sold for $45
lone pond
exactly, which shows that it's worth that much
granite juniper
and if you sold ur case it would be took
worldly crow
dont even check if its freaking sold
i guess so its sold its a 269 case for 50 bucks wtf u think
daring minnow
no 12 and 3/4
dense flicker
@daring minnow no name calling.
daring minnow
where's teh fun in that
granite juniper
ok name 1 thing why your case would be worth $200 over other cases
lone pond
nvm i'm just gonna be nice
granite juniper
ik
worldly crow
i dont have to since when does a 265 dollar 1 year old case become worth 50 bucks
daring minnow
$45*
granite juniper
yeah but what does it do that makes it $200 more than other cases
worldly crow
sorry but im not trying to trade it for drugs this isnt street sales here
lone pond
I think I paid about that for this super fancy dinner once
granite juniper
otherwise who cares how much it is if other cases can do what it does for cheaper
lone pond
Man, that devalued quickly
worldly crow
u know what u can do with that 45?
daring minnow
id say what i could do with $45 here in vegas but it would get deleted
lone pond
And clothes! Man, what a racket, like, I can't find anyone to buy that tux after I got thrown in a pond. (not really)
worldly crow
this place is looking like troill city guess im out
worldly crow
you gonna ban m,e?
dense flicker
last warning, no name calling
lone pond
Best wishes on your hardware endeavors
worldly crow
is that what u saying?
daring minnow
i didnt say anything
granite juniper
we're trying to help you sell your pc and ur leaving??
daring minnow
XD
lone pond
I've never threatened to, nor ever had to ban someone lol
worldly crow
i guess so someone deleted it
granite juniper
🤔
lone pond
mmmm breadsticks with homemade garlic butter
livid girder
yum
granite juniper
no
lone pond
breadsticks came from a can, but the garlic butter was easy and quick and tasty
lone pond
lol, no the dough is from the refrigerated pillsbury things
granite juniper
i was kind of confused too ngl
lone pond
lol
no, thankfully a step above that
i may be broke from this build but
not like that
lone pond
looking to buy from newegg MSI GeForce RTX 2060 DirectX 12 RTX 2060 VENTUS 6G OC 6GB 192-Bit GDDR6 PCI Express 3.0 x16 HDCP Ready Video Card. Trying to find specs to verify I can upgrade my son's system and run this card???? He currently has HP 6300 tower intel core i5 3.2 Ghz 16 GB with NVIDIA GEFORCE GT 1030 graphics card
cold stream
Only limiting factor could be power. 500w or higher recommended
lone pond
ok thanks @cold stream
wet carbon
Luckily it seems like that board supplies a full 75W to the pcie slot, so at worst you'll just need a psu upgrade. Would be A-OK to carry that PSU on to future builds for years to come.
ember saddle
Hey all. Would this be the correct discord to go to, to get help understanding what kind of gpu I need for my build?
ember saddle
I’ve only got the Ryzen 2700x so far since it was on sale at microcenter. Gonna keep monitor from old build so just 1080p/60hz. Using it for light gaming, nothing intensive.
Budget preferably under 300-350
And if you guys have any mobo recs too, that’d be much appreciated 😊
arctic bough
how did he not get warned but the bot yells at me for saying d*ck
gray vapor
cause he did ,
arctic bough
the word is still there, when I get dinged for swearing the message doesn't even post and MEE6 shames me publicly
dense flicker
@lone pond no swearing pls
he got around the filter somehow
it shoulda dinged him though
gray vapor
@dense flicker comma's gets around it that is why
lone pond
dense flicker
@ember saddle you can probably get a 1660ti
granite juniper
or a 5700 :l
fallen schooner
GTX 1650 SUPER 😛
granite juniper
eww
deft grove
Is it possible to swap factory fans with rgb fans on the Asus ROG Strix 2080ti rgb?
long phoenix
Get a RX 5700 over a 1660Ti, more VRAM :D
And just better
But ig they're $100 different
ember saddle
I can see myself playing call of duty at the most. All of these (1660ti, RX 5700 or rx 580/590) would be fine to handle that?
Also what do I look for to see if it’s compatible with a certain mobo?
Thanks for all the suggestions!
oblique cypress
yes they would
deft grove
Pcpartpicker.com will help you with compatibility
oblique cypress
gpus and mobos arent a big thing to worry about for compatibility
its cpus and mobos
ember saddle
Sounds goood thanks!
fossil quarry
Hello everyone, i just wanna ask if the 2070 super graphics card are likely to go on sale on black friday
long phoenix
no clue, just wait and see
polar warren
Yes
Newegg already shows 1 2070 super for the BF sale, along with a 2080 Super and a 2080Ti
So I'd assume for Cyber Monday there will be more
random prairie
Is it worth getting the 5700 xt challenger for $370? Does anybody have benchmarks and temps?
I wanna overclock and I was expecting I would get the red devil and be able to do that but idk if this will do it quite the same
random prairie
Also just found the gigabyte model for $400
That one I’ve heard is just about on par with the red devil
livid girder
No the redevil is still the best out of the box I'd say
sharp trellis
Would HOF card be better than a stock for example, RTX 2080ti Asus Strix?
random prairie
Is it worth the extra $20?
I don’t know but I think the HOF cards tend to be generally a bit better than most of the competition
The red devil is $423 rn and the gigabyte is $400, the devil is better and will overclock more easily, I also want to watercool at some point (off brands lol) and the devil has blocks for it but not the gigabyte
I guess I’ll just get the devil
random prairie
It is
dreamy dragonBOT
entropy#0705 has been warned
random prairie
Oh
Lmao ok mee6 thank you, I will watch my potty mouth
Nah in all seriousness tho I love the liquid devil but it’s a bit pricey
gray vapor
@random prairie You mean potty hands
wraith pasture
random prairie
I should probably wait for better sales before pulling the trigger on the XT tho right?
Ooh look at me I found a deal that’s better by $5 I’m a whole business man
Actually u know what I’m gonna go pick it up from micro center cus that’s cool
Cus that’s
Groovy
mellow sable
for the mail in rebate card what is that?
and if its something you dont have will those savings on black friday not be available
wraith pasture
mail in rebates require you to fill out the form provided on the product page for the qualifying item. @mellow sable
mellow sable
when im checking out?'
wraith pasture
if its a rebate rewards card they usually mail it in after a few weeks once its processed
no
gray vapor
the lord and savior speaks
wraith pasture
its usually listed if it has a mail in rebate right under the price in the product page on newegg
if it doesnt say it has a mail in rebate it means it doesn't have one.
wraith pasture
would you like an example
wraith pasture
boxed in red is the rebate form information
if the product doesnt have it, it doesn't qualify for rebate
wraith pasture
it wont have a red box, i just boxed it in red to make it easier to see. @mellow sable
random prairie
U should probably not get a 2070 super tho
worldly crow
nothing wrong with a 2070 s lol
mellow sable
he was just showing me an example
random prairie
Oh ok
mellow sable
im still choosing parts
livid girder
also yeah
random prairie
Well, regardless, the 2070 super isn’t bad it’s just not worth it relative to the 5700 xt
mellow sable
trying to get a good deal and maybe be able to get others things like these rubber keycaps I want to get
worldly crow
ive heard about alot of driver and heat issues with those cards tho not much from nvidia
livid girder
No
there's specific models that suck
like the thicc 2
it's actually bad
but the red devil
worldly crow
on ppcs facebook page there have been a few that complained. i didnt like vega either amd cards always seem to be very hott
idk i just have better and easier time using intel/nvidia
livid girder
but ur pfp is ryzen what
livid girder
ok
worldly crow
saving up for a 9700k and z390 and 4000mhz ram kit
most likely will sell the mobo ram and memory im using now as a kit
or maybe give to my dad his pc is anceint
he has my phenom 9550 i think it is
vast urchin
I'm looking to get a Gpu for my PC that I'm getting
I'm thinking about getting MSI GeForce rtx 2060 ventus
livid girder
I remember someone in this server said the ventus cards run hot
specifically that one
because they own it
south isle
Just get 4X RTX TITANS and you will be golden.
magic pebble
I don't know about the 2060 ventus, but I know I have heard of people complaining about other ventus cards overheating.
solar warren
This has probably been explained by people here but, why is the 1080ti so valuable now? I bought it new a year ago for $500. Currently, the price ranges ( on newegg) from $999-$1500.
Did the newer gpus not do so hot?
worldly crow
id never pay 1000 for a 1080ti lol id rather get a 2080ti for same price
fading spade
Looking for a 2060 super, I would go 2060 but I just want the 2 extra gigs of vram 
Currently have a base 1050 with 2gb, worst purchase I ever made like 3 years ago
livid girder
if you're gonna drop that much on a gpu you might as well go with the 5700xt
fading spade
Why so?
granite juniper
It’s like 5-8% faster than the 2060 super for the same price
long phoenix
It's basically a 2070 super
fallen schooner
5% wooooooooo
lone pond
Just curious. What happens if you dont have the power supply for a graphics card. So for example, my graphics card needs 650w. I only have 600
fallen schooner
going to work poorly, if at all.
lone pond
Figured. Just curious. I am already going to go replace it
fallen schooner
or possible overwork your psu
gray vapor
And what GPU is that?
lone pond
2070 super
fallen schooner
def want to make sure you have the required psu wattage.
lone pond
Should I get something that's at 650 or a little more wattage ?
gray vapor
750 to 850
lone pond
Alright :D thanks I appreciate it. This is my first time upgrading a graphics card
gray vapor
You have this which is on sale right now https://www.newegg.com/evga-supernova-850-g5-220-g5-0850-x1-850w/p/N82E16817438161
fallen schooner
easy p z , just don't force it in!
lone pond
Do I need to pick up anything else with the power supply like extra cords or should it be good to go?
fallen schooner
and remember to unlatch the hinge if there is a card in it already
nah you'll have everything you need
cables will more the likely be labeled.
cpu/12v/vga etc etc
grave valley
Lol I wish ram was as easy to install as GPUs
grave valley
I mean I have no problem getting a GPU in
gray vapor
some boards it is only snap
grave valley
^^
fallen schooner
my wife's board is like that
gray vapor
I have those boards which i have no issues with 😛
grave valley
Lol
lone pond
I really appreciate it. I am freaking out cuz I'm moving my computer to a new tower, new graphics card and now a new power supply >< I've never done it! You guys/gals are the best!
Are all power supplies about the same sizem
gray vapor
There are some smaller and i believe some bigger but it depends on the one you pick
but for standard ATX types will usually be the same size
lone pond
ATX...?
gray vapor
ATX is the size of the case like MicroATX, ATX and EATX
Like this as an example https://www.rosewill.com/product/spectra-d100-atx-mid-tower-gaming-case-with-tempered-glass-side-panel/
And there are cases like this which won't fit the PSU i mentioned earlier cause of its form factor https://www.rosewill.com/product/rosewill-rs-mi-01-bk-mini-itx-tower-desktop-computer-case-250w-power-supply-unit-with-2-sata-connectors-and-a-20-4-pin-connector/
fallow mirage
gray vapor
Maybe you should be asking AMD that
granite juniper
yeah they’re 99% fixed
worthy lagoon
Bit of a weird question:
If I have a RTX super card with the new NVENC chip inside, would it be pointless/irrelevant to have a game capture card (HD 60 pro) in the computer?
gray vapor
capture cards puts less stress on the CPU but does still need the GPU for it to work
worthy lagoon
but isn't the NVENC chip going to be doing that as well?
lone pond
Unless you plan to stream console or use a dual pc setup, just use nvenc/x264.
dense flicker
@full jewel whats that
oblique idol
Best 2070 super variant? In terms of a better core and boost speed with good cooling?
fallen schooner
evga
novel shoal
can anyone give me some good reasons not to want a 2070 super or a card with ray tracing period?
oblique idol
lol same
gray vapor
You want a 2070 Super
grave valley
How does a dual PC setup work?
grave valley
So you're rendering the game on one
livid girder
yes
they're completely separate they don't work together
most of the time at least
afaik
maybe I'm completely wrong 
grave valley
Do you send the video to the other one as if it was a monitor?
livid girder
wdym
oh you mean if you send the gameplay to the streaming rig
idk
It wasn't my place to try to explain this lmao
oblique idol
@gray vapor Thanks!
gray vapor
np
granite juniper